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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you, hear thought. I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: But you're a.

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Speaker 1: Guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty,

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Speaker 1: and I said, no guests. Your presences presents enough. I

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Speaker 1: already had too much stuff, So how did you dare

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Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I

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Speaker 3: had an interesting day. I was at the grocery store earlier.

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Speaker 3: I the Girl Scouts were set up outside. As I

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Speaker 3: shopping cart. The girls called out to her, would you

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Speaker 3: like to buy some cookies? She held up the Keebler

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Speaker 3: equivalent of Girl Scout cookies and said I already got some,

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Speaker 3: but thanks and kept moving. So this episode is dedicated

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Speaker 3: to you, you stonehearted ice Steam. And I just couldn't

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Speaker 3: believe what I was watching it With that in mind,

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Speaker 3: something I'm more excited about is my guest Dave Holmes.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Dave, My mouth is a Gabe, Dave.

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Speaker 3: It was, what's going on? This is what I've got

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Speaker 3: to say about this interaction. I don't think that the

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Speaker 2: It was no, clearly not.

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Speaker 3: It was very odd.

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Speaker 2: So clearly not. But that is I still blame her. Oh,

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Speaker 2: of course, course, still laziness on her. Yes, just think

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Speaker 2: for one second. I think for one second, the Girl

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it goes way beyond that. And also, you saw

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Speaker 2: To you monster. Did you get any Girl Scout cookies?

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Speaker 3: I didn't get any. Well, you're kind of picture. I

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Speaker 3: am the problem. Listen. I didn't buy anything. I don't

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Speaker 3: the grocery store is my museum. I get to go

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Speaker 3: of charge. I should have bought something from the girls Skins.

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Speaker 2: He really should have. Might give you this season. Not yet.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, Dave, this is my big confession, and I

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Speaker 3: need to buy some Girl Scout cookies. I'm not that

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's let's talk me through your experience. Listen,

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Speaker 3: Okay, thin mints top of the pile, of course, I

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Speaker 3: mind thin mint, A frozen print, thin mint, I'll eat it.

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Speaker 2: You must be frozen.

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Speaker 3: But how many thin mints am I supposed to eat?

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Speaker 3: I feel like? And something that I've just discussed way

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Speaker 3: too much on this podcast is that I eat three

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Speaker 3: Nothing that's basically fifty cent piece worth of cookies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a minty communion way for.

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Speaker 3: Three times, Yes, absolutely so, But then I feel like

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Speaker 3: like you What is the beverage you're drinking when you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't because like traditionally, you're gonna milk in

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Speaker 3: And you don't want to drink water with a thin mint.

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Speaker 3: You're dipping your thin mint?

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Speaker 3: That is chocolate covered, chocolate covered short bread cookie.

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Speaker 2: See, I really like that.

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Speaker 3: It's my dream cookie. It's absolutely every element of it

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Speaker 2: Now what was the last time you tried it?

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Speaker 3: But for some reason we're missing on the flavor. And

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Speaker 2: Unless they're brand unless they're right out of the oven.

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Speaker 3: I love the mcmillion's lottery ticket. I could watch footage

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Speaker 3: Oh it's fantastic, and printing press. And the woman with

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Speaker 2: a little sugar, Yes you do. It's probably the most

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have graham crackers available.

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Speaker 2: We do, we do, we don't love them though.

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Speaker 3: Dave, you don't come in here and just start attacking

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Speaker 2: I love graham cracker. I think they're Okay, it's a

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Speaker 2: weird thing. You never need to eat a gram cracker.

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Speaker 2: then the insides are like melty chocolate and marshmallow and marshmallow.

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Speaker 2: That's the delicious a sandwich cookie. I had a smore

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Speaker 3: Well, I was. I was in Palm Springs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, obviously capital of small capital of California, know

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Speaker 3: Let's just let's give it to them.

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Speaker 3: And the hotel I was saying that gave us smores. Wow,

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Speaker 2: What may I ask what hotel?

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Speaker 3: I would love to Sparrow's Lodge, Okay, I've never been.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible. It's like staying in a little cabin.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I love that.

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Speaker 3: give you smores. What more can I ask for?

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Speaker 2: then they bring you breakfast at whatever time you indicate

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Speaker 2: It was fantastic. And at that time I was like,

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Speaker 2: So a dirty gin martini with blue cheese olives, oh

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Speaker 3: So This kind of was the conversion. It was wow,

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Speaker 2: They're significant.

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Speaker 3: Box of gram crackers and some marshmallows, and I will

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Speaker 2: Did they bring you a fully assembled more or do

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Speaker 3: They brought us a plate with marshmallows, Hershey's bar and

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Speaker 2: That's nice.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. You know, the.

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Speaker 2: Eighties, that's the would you ever get away from a

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Speaker 3: I do occasionally really actually too, this is just going

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Speaker 3: brought Reese's peanut butter cups to the hotel. I rarely

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Speaker 3: This is not just peanut butter. It's a sauce.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's absolutely a possibility. I'm actually just going to

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Speaker 2: I was at a place called AJ's Barbecue on Riverside,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A's breakfast, very good, right, very good, which is

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Speaker 2: the right right named Pat's Cocktails. A fucking fantastic dive.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the ultimate name for a dive. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. The first time I went in there, I

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Speaker 3: This was a memorial memorial crockpot of chili.

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Speaker 2: The son of the deceased made his way to our

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He loved it, loved and he thought his father

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Speaker 3: This is a custom made hat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't give either.

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Speaker 2: You have to make it up absolutely clear if you

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Speaker 3: If you just want to play a guess my dad's wake, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that is okay. So the bartender from Patty.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. So the So I'm sitting waiting for

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, of course, he looks just like

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Speaker 2: He does not look not even remotely.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing about this animal, no, unless you're keeping something

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Speaker 2: Like a labradoodle, labradoodle. He it's confused for a labradodle.

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Speaker 3: Good for her this Maybe she's dog blind.

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Speaker 2: That a thing she might be that's very or or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that would probably be close, which is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that may be the next big thing,

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Speaker 3: I mean, as far as funerals go, does this feel

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Speaker 2: Yeah. God, man, if I died before, Oh.

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Speaker 3: It'll be so EERI before, were gonna love it?

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Speaker 2: I yeah, not there, but I do. I do want to.

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Speaker 3: Might be too far where it's like just at a

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Speaker 2: Not that, not church somewhere between.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, church feels a little weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't know that. I maybe

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Speaker 2: Have you never thought about? Who will? You?

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Speaker 3: Dying? Constantly? But I've got to make the list. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's time to make the list because some people just

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Speaker 3: in Palm Springs. Of course, for it was my fifth

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Speaker 3: anniversary with my boyfriend. Nice, you've been in a relationship

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Speaker 2: Long time. Yeah, anniversaries a something you do, uh kind of. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You deserve your celebration, absolutely, the relationship deserves a celebration.

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Speaker 2: They each deserve their moments. Yes, yeah, my birthday is

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Speaker 2: it's our fifteenth.

440
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, congratulations. Yeah, so what sort of stuff

441
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 3: for you are you buying each other presence? I didn't

442
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: think so, okay, never we have, Okay, but maybe not

443
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 3: this time.

444
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 2: Maybe not this time. I mean, it is a significant one,

445
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 2: so maybe we should. But I to you buy also,

446
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 2: like we're really very much in the purging stage. Oh sure, yeah.

447
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: So maybe you each secretly throw away another thing of

448
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 3: the person that is a fun surprise.

449
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: This is a real thing that I think NPR should

450
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 2: do is like you know how like at the two

451
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars level, you get the NPR total.

452
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 2: Right at the five hundred dollars level, they should say, like,

453
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: we will come to your home when you're sleeping and

454
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: we will remove one toad back. That's a great idea

455
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: because we have to pay for that, Yes, they would.

456
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: I would please take.

457
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 3: Some of this canvas from my home.

458
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: Take it out, take it out.

459
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 3: That's a not a bad idea.

460
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: Do it, do it, n PR, do it case RW

461
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 2: that free of charge.

462
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: Don't be cowards. Just step up and remove things from

463
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: people's home, yes, while they sleep. Okay, so you're not

464
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: getting each other gifts. So I think we'll just go

465
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 3: for a fancy dinner. Maybe we'll try to get away.

466
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll do a palm springs head out and get

467
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, you could all fall apart.

468
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: You could die. As we've discussed, a lot of things

469
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 3: can change.

470
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: Not a couple of weeks, Darth Vader could death.

471
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe this woman is saying something you just haven't

472
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: noticed yet. Suddenly you're strangled. Speaking of gifts. Yes, of course.

473
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 3: You know we've been talking about you coming to do

474
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: this podcast for a couple of weeks. Very upfront podcast

475
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 3: is called I said no gifts. Yeah, it's in the emails.

476
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 3: It's you know whatever. You show up tonight. You're holding

477
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: a package. It's wrapped in what looks like newspaper. It

478
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: is which is you know, I think it appears to

479
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 3: be a gift?

480
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: It is?

481
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 3: Did you you didn't bring me a gift?

482
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 2: I can't show up empty handed. I can't do it.

483
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: What is it about you that you can't just I

484
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: just can't do it? Nerves a little, Yeah, maybe it

485
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: might be an OCD kind of thing. I feel crazy

486
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: if I don't. If I show up to someone's home,

487
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: sure without a bottle of wine something, you got it.

488
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: You can't show up empty handed. You know what it was?

489
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: It was? It was my first boyfriend in New York.

490
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 2: It was like a fancy, mainline Philadelphia old money.

491
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: Right, somebody whose parents really showed him manners.

492
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, uh. And that was one of the things

493
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: that he taught me early on, that you never show

494
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: up anywhere impy handed.

495
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 3: That's something I'm slowly learning. Yeah, there are situations though,

496
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: when you're going to someone's house, let's say they don't drink,

497
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: bottle of wine is such an easy thing to take.

498
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: Of course, what are you taking? Flowers? Are you taking?

499
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: You can mineral water.

500
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, you can still bring a

501
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: bottle of wine to someone's home even if they are

502
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: fully in recovery, because they will have to go to

503
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: someone else's house at something. That's true, They just put it. Yeah,

504
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: it's plate for yeah, piece of it, entering it into

505
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: the great circle.

506
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, everybody's got a bottle of wine that once

507
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: belonged to somebody else. Yeah, that makes sense exactly. Well,

508
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 3: you've brought this here. I would feel bad not opening

509
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: it for you. I mean I might as well. Take

510
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: a look. I have to commend you for this very

511
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 3: green wrapping paper.

512
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

513
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 3: I feel like more people should just use newspaper. Yeah,

514
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: and you know, magazine coupon circulars. You're getting that jump

515
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: mail why not?

516
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, and then you can use them afterwards if

517
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: you would like to read about the current state of Israel,

518
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 2: and a stand is about fully up to date. In fairness,

519
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 2: this is two sundays ago. Okay, so I don't it's

520
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: not going to tell you anything. You don't hear nothing

521
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: new for me.

522
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: Now, let's open this up. Get this right by the microphone.

523
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: What is this you don't Okay? It looks it's called

524
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: you don't know My Life. It's a party game. It's

525
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: a party game, a party game. Is this a game

526
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: you've played before?

527
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: I never have?

528
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So it looks like you like two It says

529
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: the TMI party game with no wrong answers, just hashtag inappropriate.

530
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: Hashtag inappropriate.

531
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: So this game is going to get naughty very quickly.

532
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll get as naughty as you are willing

533
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: to go now.

534
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 3: One of the examples on the back is based off

535
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: of knowing nothing about the game. Somebody has done the

536
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: hashtag forest rump yeah rather than Forrest comes. So who

537
00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: knows what that means?

538
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 2: Who knows how they got there? What will they think

539
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: of next?

540
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: Do you like it?

541
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: What will they think of? Well, this particular person think of, well,

542
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: this fictional person think of next? Are you a big

543
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: party game player? Not at all? Really, not at all?

544
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 3: At parties? What are you like? Let's say you're hosting

545
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 3: a party. You'd just like to have people around in converse?

546
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes if it's small enough, I will cook sure

547
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: to medium size, I'll grill out in the backyard. Generally

548
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: we all just drink too much.

549
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: In my mouth dropped. You're cooking for all kinds of people? Yeah,

550
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: are you a good cook?

551
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm a decent cook. Okay, So yeah, do games ever

552
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: get played? Does it ever brought up? Really in my home?

553
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it could happen. The problem is me,

554
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: and is the fact that if a game is being played,

555
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: I have to win it. Oh, you're humorless in that. Sure,

556
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: So I'm great at like pub trivia, right because well,

557
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna win. I won't cheat, but we're gonna win.

558
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: And if we don't, or if it feels like we won't,

559
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: everyone's night will be ruined.

560
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: And how is that truly? How does that manifest itself?

561
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: Are you yelling at people?

562
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: It's real dark and people feel like if they say

563
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: the wrong thing, I might snap. Where's a lot of

564
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: coming from? Uh, it's it's just where all my darkness goes.

565
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: I guess, right into games, right right into trivia, into competition.

566
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, what, I assume you're good with music trivia.

567
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 3: I'm okay with music.

568
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: Trivia.

569
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: Where are you strongest?

570
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, all things pop culture, books, movies, music, and then

571
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: just weird, like I'm good with weird facts, Like I'll

572
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: know weird specific things. Now. I went there. There used

573
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: to be Saturday afternoon pub trivia at Angel City Brewery, Okay,

574
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: And I went down there like a month or two

575
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 2: ago with some friends and and we did great. We

576
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: were like we were gonna kill it right, right, and

577
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: then like round six all basketball, you know, like just

578
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: walk up. Yeah, it was just like there's not a

579
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: sports guy. I screwed. No, we are screwed. And we

580
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: were so typically like I know my blind spots, shoul.

581
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 2: I have a couple of friends who are good with

582
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: let's say geography, right, so I'm not or sports, which

583
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely not. So it's I like to assemble the

584
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: right team, which is a big you've got.

585
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's essentially you're doing an Ocean's eleven style, yes,

586
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: picking and choosing people for their particular things.

587
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: If I do it with my closest bunch of friends,

588
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: which I did at this particular time, we all have

589
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: roughly the same knowledge base.

590
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: Right, I'm surrounded by people who know just pop culture,

591
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: and then that's about it. If I have maybe one

592
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: friend who actually listened in college, and then the rest

593
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 3: of us can tell you what's happening on TV or

594
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: a new song.

595
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there's stuff that I've picked up from

596
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: like the crossword, the Sunday Crossword. You know, you get

597
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: a weird little fact from it about mythology. So sure,

598
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: and you can usually like weave that back in.

599
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 3: Tell people who Zeus was married to this.

600
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: Short of off the top of my head.

601
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, Okay, I'm gonna I'm that feels right,

602
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: feels right and again or not again. But you know

603
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: you've said it on the podcast, and so now people

604
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: will just have to believe that, and it will kind

605
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: of snowball until the entire planet believes that Harold of

606
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: Zeus's wife. I feel like had like a variety.

607
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: Of fling concubines.

608
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so who knows who's going to step to Zeus? Yeah,

609
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: of course nobody. You're okay, so you're doing the crossword?

610
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: How long have you been doing this?

611
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: I think maybe my whole of the whole life.

612
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: So you're good at it? Okay, can you do? Can

613
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: you get through a Sunday Crossword.

614
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: Sunday is not that hard.

615
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: What is Sunday at the beginning?

616
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 2: Sunday's the end. Sunday's well, Sunday's not really the end

617
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: or the beginning. Saturday, Sunday is the void. Saturday is Saturday,

618
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: and so Sunday is kind of like Sundays down, big Thursday,

619
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: a big Thursday. Yeah, when this is psychotic big Wednesday

620
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: and a half sometimes a Thursday. Okay. Can you get

621
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: through a Saturday? No? No, not if I can get

622
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: one answer on the board on a Saturday.

623
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: Really, this is after you've been doing this your whole

624
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: adult life. Yeah, this is so discouraging for me. No,

625
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: satur but Saturday, Saturday is not even fun. Saturday fun

626
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: for anyone.

627
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it is. I would venture to guess

628
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: it is not.

629
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 3: What I mean, what could they possibly be doing that

630
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: makes it that difficult.

631
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's long answers right where Sunday is

632
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: many shorter.

633
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, so you can kind of just guess at

634
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: letters and eventually put you'll get that piece it together

635
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 3: right there.

636
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Saturday is a nightmare. Okay, Friday I can

637
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: maybe complete half?

638
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 3: And are you doing them every day?

639
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: Of the year. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sunday pretty

640
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: much Sunday only. Oh interest, I'll only get the Sunday paper.

641
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: Okay. Sure.

642
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: When I've occasionally done the thing where you can do

643
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: the crossword every day.

644
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: Right on your phone online, I mean, the rare time

645
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: that I've done a crossword, I prefer to do it

646
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: in pen or you know, on a newspaper rather than

647
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: on your phone. It feels like temporary and not permanent enough.

648
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: And I'm staring at my fucking phone long enough.

649
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't need another reason for this thing to

650
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: be my to have my eyes glued on it. I

651
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: now have. You don't know my life? Yeah, which is

652
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: I just want to read the back of this really quickly.

653
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: What's something? It says, what's something you can't believe you

654
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: physically hurt yourself doing? So, this is the sort of

655
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 3: question it's going to be asking. Sure, let's let's use

656
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: this question as an example. Okay, what's something you can't

657
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: believe you physically hurt yourself doing.

658
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I hit myself in the face opening my own

659
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: car door. I opened my own car door into my face.

660
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: What happened?

661
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: I just I don't I'm dumb. I don't know. Or

662
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: it was like morning and I was I was not

663
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: fully there yet or whatever, but I just like went

664
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 2: up to my car and opened the door and just

665
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: opened it into my face.

666
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: Was there blood and bruise. There's that feeling of getting

667
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: hit right in the nose, which is so horrible. Certain, Yes,

668
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: it's like suddenly your whole face feels swollen. Okay, that

669
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: feels like a terrible thing. I'm trying to think of

670
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: something I've done that I've injured myself doing constantly small

671
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: injuries throughout every single day. But I would say that

672
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: does a sunburn count.

673
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: Laying?

674
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: I ended up in a hospital with the sunburn, I'll

675
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: be damned. Yeah, you know this is this is a

676
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: bad period for me. But I was on the beach

677
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: for six hours and then I was in Venezuela and

678
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: uh went up into a little remote village after getting

679
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: the sunburn, put on some lotion and had some sort

680
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: of reaction. Ended up in the hospital. My nurse was

681
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: wearing a leather jacket and they took care of me.

682
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

683
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna say, even within deep within Venezuela,

684
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: socialized medicine took care of me. I love no Bill.

685
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: Wow Leather Tuscadero came and yeah, absolutely hydrated me and

686
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: got me out of there. I'll be damn.

687
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: So I guess that's probably the the biggest injury I

688
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: guess I could think of that I've done myself. Most

689
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: of the other injuries have been other people. Older brothers,

690
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: that sort of thing, s t siblings.

691
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: I have two older brothers, And what's your relationship with them?

692
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: They are they're like eight and ten years older. Okay,

693
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: so we're we're not not closed, but we're not like

694
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: we're not on the phone with each other all the time.

695
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: You're all just like civil adults, yeah, who share common genes. Yeah,

696
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: this sort of thing. Yeah, So as kids growing up,

697
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: there was no like real rough housing, this sort of thing.

698
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: Not a ton no, And like playing sports with them

699
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: was useless, right, yeah, right they were. If I was seven,

700
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: they were You're right, right, it's just no point. Sure,

701
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: they used to throw me around. They'd be like, let's

702
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: play cats. Oh yeah, and then they would throw me

703
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: physically from one to the other, which should have I

704
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: should have just relaxed and enjoyed it. But sure, it's

705
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: just I was like this is terrifying, and one of

706
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: you is gonna drop me to me.

707
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: It's weird that as a child, other humans can just

708
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: toss you.

709
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

710
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: I like that.

711
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: I don't.

712
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: I never like you don't miss it. I think I

713
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: could find myself enjoying just two huge adults throwing me around. Yeah,

714
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: I feel like there's some fun in that, Like in a.

715
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: Pool maybe, Oh yeah, in a pool, yeah, throwing you

716
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: from one end of the pool and the other enjoyable.

717
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: There was like a nine foot tall man who would

718
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: just pick me up and toss me in the air.

719
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: Oh you say that, but who knows then then it happens, Yeah,

720
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: that it happens in suddenly you're you know, everything is

721
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: going wrong. Yeah, terrible.

722
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: So gift giving, as far as the anniversary stuff, it

723
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: seems pretty low key birthday Is that sort of thing?

724
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: Do you like getting gifts?

725
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: I love getting gifts?

726
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: You do like getting gifts? I know a lot of

727
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: people don't. I personally don't enjoy. I mean, I of

728
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: course like appreciate when people do it, but it makes

729
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: me feel bad the sort of thing. But you're just.

730
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: Able to just oh no, give it to me. What

731
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: sort of stuff do you like? To get. Let's see,

732
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: what do I like to get? Actually, I like to

733
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: get stuff that I don't know that I want. Oh, sure,

734
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: of course, Like if somebody brings over a book that

735
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: they think I'll like, right, and that's great, and if

736
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: they're correct, they've really given you something, They've really given

737
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: me something. Yeah. I like a thing that indicates that

738
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: the person knows me and has thought about what would

739
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: make my life better. Right, And it is not just

740
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: like a gesture, sure, I mean like a sweater at

741
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: Christmas time, yes, which I like those two.

742
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: Of course, there's nothing wrong with a gesture.

743
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: Sure.

744
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: Occasionally a gesture just increases your wardrobe.

745
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: The gesture is great. Yes, I am in the stage

746
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: right now of getting a lot of stuff. I work

747
00:34:54,239 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: at Esquire magazine, right, so will occasionally get thing from

748
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 2: fashion labels or whatever. And I'm never gonna say no because,

749
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: of course, because to free fashion. Yeah. I also, I

750
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: am absolutely the wrong person for this, but it's happening anyway.

751
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: Because I'm the only staffer in California. My colleagues in

752
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: New York get pitches for like luxury weed products all

753
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: the time. Interesting, so they're just like, send it to

754
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: Dave so they, like all of their publicists now have

755
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: my address. So every now and then I'll get an

756
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: email saying, like a messengers coming to your house this afternoon,

757
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: can you be there to get it? Because they can't

758
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: put it in mail of.

759
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: Course, of course.

760
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: So I've been getting, especially around Valentine's Day, a lot

761
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: of like you know, like heart rot, weed, edibles.

762
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: Oh what an interesting combination of I feel like there's

763
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: too much going on in one product, way.

764
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: Too much going on. So and I'm not an edibles

765
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: guy at all. Sure, on Valentine's Day, then my partner

766
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: and I were like, you know what, hell with it.

767
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: Let's you know, we had a nice dinner. We wait

768
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: until last minute to make a reservation. So our dinner,

769
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: like yours, was at like quarter to.

770
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: Five, yes, of course, of course.

771
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: And then we're like, well, let's watch, you know, let's

772
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: watch a movie or whatever it was we were watching,

773
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: and like, tear off a tiny bit of this thing

774
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 2: and see how it goes. So we did.

775
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: And what was the thing.

776
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: It was some almond granola cluster okay, that was infused

777
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: with what turned out to be entirely too much weed.

778
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: So like hours later we were both like, oh no,

779
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: like I'm about to go to bed and just crazy this. Yeah.

780
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: And then I had to fly out of town the

781
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: next morning early makeup, I'm high, I have to get

782
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: on a plane. It was not right the whole rest

783
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: of the day.

784
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: Where were you flying?

785
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: I was going to Dallas.

786
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Oh so that's a decent length flight to.

787
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: Be with a Yeah, with a layover in Las Vegas,

788
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: which is such a gorgeous on a Saturday morning. So

789
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: it's like people who came and left at weird times.

790
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: Oh, the darkest time for the Las Vegas airport. Yeah,

791
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: what are you doing here on a Saturday? I haven't

792
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: been there in a few years. Is it so kind

793
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: of maroon? I feel like there was a period when

794
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: it was just this maroon, dark, maroon room with a

795
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: bunch of slot machines.

796
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a lot of slots. Yeah. Yeah. And then

797
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: I had my layover, was like at nine thirty in

798
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: the morning, and I was like, I'm going to have

799
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: a beer because I hi and I just want to

800
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: why not, just want to feel that I'm a familiar feeling, right,

801
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 2: So I had a beer and did it feel good?

802
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: It felt better?

803
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, do you have any breakfast moored about this?

804
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: No, I didn't.

805
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: So you're just kind of wandering around Las Vegas Airport stoned,

806
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: maybe a little buzz, yeah, stomach empty, yeah, Dave, not great,

807
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: not I mean, but actually probably kind of par for

808
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 3: the course in the Las Vegas Airport. That's what I figured.

809
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: Probably just fit right when I figure. Now you work

810
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: for Esquire, I I this is a very pro reading

811
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 3: podcast magazines. What do we need to do with what

812
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: does it? I've recently subscribed to a variety of magazines

813
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: because I felt like I was doing the industry a

814
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: disservice by not doing it. I love reading a magazine too.

815
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 3: It's so much more enjoyable than a phone. Yes, and

816
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: I better by the pool way better, way better, And

817
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: you can just leave them around the house and you know,

818
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: start up a little bit before bed, read a little bit,

819
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: and go to bed a little bit and not worry

820
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 3: about seeing somebody you hate or this sort of nonsense

821
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: on Twitter or Instagram or whatever.

822
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: Lovely, how long.

823
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: Have you been working for a square? I mean they're

824
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: five years, okay, And what do you feel like you've

825
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: learned about magazines?

826
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: And pooh? What have I learned about magazines. Uh, well,

827
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: everyone's trying to figure out how to be one. Sure,

828
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: you know, as like as in the world of like

829
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: digital media, figuring out that like teen Vogue can do

830
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: great political companies.

831
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: They had a real resurgence four years ago.

832
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, like great stuff can live anywhere. So the idea

833
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: of like a men's website is completely obsolete, right, right,

834
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: And you know, the idea of a men's magazine, it's

835
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: not obsolete, but it's like what you know, you really

836
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: have to think hard about like what it means to

837
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: be a men's magazine. You know, that's always a conversation.

838
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: And what does it mean to be a men's magazine

839
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty?

840
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: I okay. My take is that it's it's not necessarily

841
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: about being a man as distinct from being a woman.

842
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 2: I think it's about being a man as distinct from

843
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: being a child. Oh, cult and like enrichment and you know,

844
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: and style and accessories that can improve your life, right,

845
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: and thought provoking pieces and good interviews and that kind

846
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: of thing. That is where twenty years ago it would

847
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: have been about like here's you know, here's fucking whoever

848
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Decker in a a you know, short code and

849
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: you know, no shirts, she'll tell you a joke or

850
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: now it's like it's it's we're trying to trying to

851
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: be a thoughtful person in society, a thoughtful person as

852
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: opposed to a teenage boy.

853
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 3: And I know you cover more, you know, like arts

854
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: and culture. But maybe you can answer this question for me,

855
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: because it's been haunting me for about six months. About

856
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: six months ago, somebody told me that we're post fashion.

857
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: Does that sound right to you? It does actually, So

858
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 3: that means I can just wear what I mean, yes,

859
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: essentially whatever I feel comfortable where, yes, yeah, and that

860
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 3: is this something we just get to live in for now.

861
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: Or I think it is. Yeah. I think we're also

862
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: post music trend that that I'm familiar with, Yeah, a

863
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: little clothes. I know music enough that I can but

864
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: with it feels very because my whole life I've been followed,

865
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 2: you know, caught in each trend as it moves along,

866
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: and they'n looking back at photos five years earlier and thinking, oh,

867
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: you look horrible.

868
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

869
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: I still think to some degree we will have that

870
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: right because it always feels like you're at the end

871
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: of fashion. It always feels like every we're just wearing

872
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: everything now. But I do think that there's some of

873
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: that that is true. I mean, we're getting a little

874
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: bit away from fast fashion, okay, just as people get

875
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: more conscientious. Yes, it's effect on the environment and whatever.

876
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: So it is about recycling literal pieces that have been around.

877
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: It is an interesting world to be living.

878
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: It is also we're I mean, we're both getting older,

879
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: right and we're not. It's a strange thing. I went

880
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: in high school in the eighties. We had a lot

881
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: of teachers who dressed like it was the seventies. Yes,

882
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 2: and when you're a kid, you're like, well, that's a

883
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: choice they're making, and they just think that looks cool

884
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: and whatever. Now you know, it's the twenty twenties. I've

885
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: for sure got some shit in my closet that's twenty

886
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 2: years old. Of course, still where regularly right, And it's

887
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: like it's not about like, oh, I'm frozen in this

888
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: moment in fashion. It's just like, this is what I

889
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: have now, this is what I have.

890
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a shirt. Maybe my favorite shirt is

891
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: fifteen years old. Yeah, and I'm just deal with it. Yeah,

892
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: But I don't think the differences are as stark between

893
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: now and fifteen years ago as they were between you know,

894
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty seven and nineteen seventy seven, right, I don't know,

895
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: I do feel I do see a lot of things

896
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: coming back from middle school is coming back to haunt

897
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: me in a big way in the last few years.

898
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: A lot of you know, wide leg Jeanes, this sort

899
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: of thing, which is terrifying. Yeah, and I feel like

900
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: you were you were probably on MTV in this period,

901
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: the late nineties.

902
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the baggy the baggy period.

903
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: Right, And what's your take on music in that, Like,

904
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: from ninety eight to let's say two thousand and one

905
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: feels like a dark period for music.

906
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: I loved it.

907
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: I loved it, new metal, this sort of thing.

908
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that was terrible, Okay, some degree I loved

909
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: it because it was part of this life that I had.

910
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: Just oh sure, of course.

911
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: So it just felt like, yeah, every day I felt

912
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: like a winning like I just scratched off a million

913
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: dollar lottery.

914
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: Right of course. So everything everything, it was like I

915
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 3: was in love.

916
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: Great.

917
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's when you fell in love with corn.

918
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: That is exactly what I really I was more of

919
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: a limp biscuit. I always hated I mean, I could

920
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: recognize that Limp Biscuit was terrible music, right, but it

921
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: was part of the life that I was in sure,

922
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: and so for that reason I kind of I kind

923
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: of liked it. I also I wish I had been

924
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: better about like the weird electronic y kind of shit

925
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: that was coming out around that, right. I just at

926
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: the time I was like, I don't do enough drugs

927
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: for that and whatever. Some of it was really interesting.

928
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: What sort of stuff are we talking about here?

929
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: Oh? My god? Like AFX twin Oh, sure of course,

930
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: like sort of mid Chemical Brothers.

931
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: Yes, Chemical, I mean, I'll tell you Chemical. This is

932
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: where again, where we just lose a thousand listeners and

933
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: I just get into music. Chemical Brothers put out an

934
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: album in twenty fifteen which I think is phenomenal and

935
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: people should listen to it.

936
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: I bet that they are still great. They're fantastic. Yeah,

937
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: Chemical Brothers. I would have thought, do you okay, will

938
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: you follow me to this? I think Fred Durst is

939
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: unbelievably sexy, interesting, I really do. I've got to I've

940
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: got to see a recent picture of Fred Darst. I

941
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: don't know how he looks now. All I can picture

942
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: is I bet shorts past the knee. Oh, terrible, terrible fashion.

943
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: I can't even picture what his body looks like. I

944
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: can't either.

945
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: I mean she doesn't matter, Garfield, Yeah.

946
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. But there's just something I don't know.

947
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: There was just something about.

948
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna quickly just google a picture fred

949
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: Durst here and I'm gonna give up something.

950
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: There's there's a flavor of the the weed dealer in

951
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: the mall about him that is internal and sexy at

952
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: the same time.

953
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going to say, the first photo that

954
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: comes up of fred Durst is absolutely unappealing. Tell me

955
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. That's fairly bad photo.

956
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: That's he's just come off the golf course.

957
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: Yes, this is odd, it's not it almost looks like powder.

958
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not great. I would say, yeah, like find

959
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: a nineteen ninety eight Freddy. Here we go, fred Durst,

960
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: there you go. Yeah, lovely eyes, good eyes. The soul

961
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: patch leading into go tee is terrible. It's hard for

962
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: me to look past this sort of thing. I know,

963
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: but there's just something. There's something so wrong that I think.

964
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 3: It's the aura, you like, the Spencer's gifts of him.

965
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: I might it might be interesting the sleeve tattoo of him. Right,

966
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's exactly. I mean he is somebody that

967
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: you would like, he'd eye you in them all, yes, yeah, yeah.

968
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: And you could smell the cigarettes from one hundred feet

969
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: away for sure.

970
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: And he's like he's got like a gravity bongy some

971
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 2: dumb thing.

972
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: This is absolutely someone who is been fired from Orange Julius.

973
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no questions.

974
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 3: And there's a real sex appeal to somebody who was

975
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: too bad for o J. Yeah. So yeah, and that's Fred.

976
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: I wonder what his career was prior to Olympiscuit.

977
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: Prior to I mean, for sure, you know, selling bootleg

978
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 2: T shirts outside of course, you know from Florida. He's

979
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: from Florida. He is Florida.

980
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: That entire music period came straight out of floor, came

981
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: straight out of its toilet in Florida.

982
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. And now now I feel like he's directing movies.

983
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: I think he directed the John Travolta movie.

984
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 2: That looked wild. It did look pretty wild. I didn't

985
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: see it.

986
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 3: I don't know that anyone did, but maybe we should.

987
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: All it's a movie where John Travolta is kind of

988
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: a stalker. So I don't know. Fred dursty's trying everything.

989
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like sex tape with who some some lady?

990
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: When was this?

991
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: This was? This was in the Sidekick era. Wait, because

992
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: Sidekick got hacked a Kick phones, Sidekick phone. He shot

993
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: a sex tape on a Sidekick Yeah, what does that

994
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: even look like? Not good at all?

995
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: Those phones could barely operate.

996
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: Snake, Yeah, yeah, it's it's fourteen seconds long, and it's

997
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: like it's two different things. One it's like a girl

998
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: blowing him, sure, and then another one it's it's him,

999
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: it's his POV and he is having sex with a lady.

1000
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: Fourteen seconds not long. It's a sex boomerang.

1001
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: That's crazy, but it's all they can hold. Fred. Then

1002
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: I bet you could find it.

1003
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: It got linked. Well I'm not. I'm not watching the

1004
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: Fred Durst sex tape on this podcast. No, I might

1005
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: put it afterwards. I might look into it. Fred Durst,

1006
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: he's done it all. He's truly done it all. He's

1007
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: done with us for quite a period.

1008
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: He is a true renaissance man. Inspect him.

1009
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: He has shifted culture in a big way. Well, Dave,

1010
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: I feel like we're we're gonna head to the game

1011
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: portion of the podcast. Do you want to play a

1012
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: game called Gift Master or a game called Gift or

1013
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 3: a Curse?

1014
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Gift he a curse.

1015
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna play Gift or a Curse. I need a

1016
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: number from you between one and ten six. Okay, I'm

1017
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: going to go into my calculation cave. While I'm doing

1018
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: this for an undetermined amount of time. You can promote

1019
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: whatever you want, you can recommend something, do whatever you want.

1020
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, he's doing it. Oh fuck it. I'm on

1021
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: Twitter at Dave Holmes. If I've got anything interesting to say,

1022
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: I'll probably say it there. Also on Instagram at Dave Holmes,

1023
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: you can see pictures of my dog, who doesn't look

1024
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: like Darth Vader at all. My book Party of One

1025
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 2: is on shelves right now, and it makes a wonderful gift.

1026
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: David does make a wonderful gift, and I'm back to

1027
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: play the game.

1028
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it.

1029
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: Gift he a curse. I'm just gonna name three things

1030
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 3: and you're gonna tell me if there are a gift

1031
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 3: or a curse and why.

1032
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So, first up, gift her a curse? Night guards

1033
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: night guards for your teeth for your teeth, I don't.

1034
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: It's essentially a kind of a plastic retainer grinder, right grinder.

1035
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: I would say, I'm leaning. I'm leaning toward curse only

1036
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: because the amount of saliva that I would imagine they

1037
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: would allow to escape from your mouth in the middle

1038
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: of the nightway the benefits of not grinding, Okay, and

1039
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: then and then it's like it goes right through the

1040
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: pillow case and the pillows fucked by the way, another

1041
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: product that I'm about to get here as the one

1042
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: person who can accept CBD and thh CPS from a

1043
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 2: delivery person a THHC pillow a pillow. What's happening? I know,

1044
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: but I guess when you calm down on it, like

1045
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: particles of CBD come out and go into your face

1046
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: and help could possibly, But it's being delivered to my home.

1047
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna need some sort of update at some point.

1048
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: This feels like was like a health It seems real crazy.

1049
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 3: Don't let your dog go to sleep on the THHC pillow.

1050
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: It's it's CBD. It's it's CBD.

1051
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so it maybe maybe well actually it probably just

1052
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: does nothing. It's just fine for sure. Absolutely fine. But

1053
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: if it makes you feel better, it gives you pleasant dreams,

1054
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 3: why not. Whatever, life short, Dave, You're absolutely right. Nightguards

1055
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: are a curse. I was recently pressured into buying one

1056
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: from my dentist, doctor Nancy.

1057
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: Doctor Nancy. She made she'd like.

1058
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: That first name for Nancy, doctor Sandra Nancy. I'm not

1059
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: giving away your last name, don't want to shame doctor

1060
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: Nancy too much. But she really put the sales pitch

1061
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: on to this thing. I've worn it once and it

1062
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: was hell. It sounds terrible, and you know, You've just

1063
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: got a giant piece of plastic in your mouth all night.

1064
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 3: And so now I'm just back to grinding my teeth,

1065
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: which doesn't seem great either. But no, what do you

1066
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: do if you're actually I'm just going to get these

1067
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: replaced with some sort of horse tooth or whatever.

1068
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: And who does like growing in twenty years, what is

1069
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: dentistry even going to look like?

1070
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: We're all going to have our teeth remove? Of course,

1071
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: it feels like something we should do. Yeah, let's just

1072
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: get some ceramics in there something.

1073
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, So a single, just one nice, just.

1074
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: One figure run on each each level of your mouth

1075
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: and then you can just kind of take it out

1076
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: and wash it. I feel like dentistry and does need

1077
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 3: to take some strides forward. Yeah, teeth are a huge nuisance.

1078
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: They're a pain. Let's get rid of them. Let's get

1079
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: rid of them.

1080
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 3: I say, give the boot to tea.

1081
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: So much of going to the dentists is the same

1082
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: as it was when you were a child.

1083
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the kind of planes and dentistry we've just decided,

1084
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: like nineteen seventy nine, they hit the peak and we're like,

1085
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: this is what it will be. You know.

1086
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: The big leap forward in both of them is TV DV. Yes,

1087
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: and you can enjoy TV on I in neither of

1088
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: these situations. So whatever distraction, Yeah you're watching, you're gonna

1089
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: hate forever because yes, terrible.

1090
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: One hundred percent, one hundred percent. Last time I was

1091
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: at the dentist, we were watching who are those two

1092
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 3: horrible people on HGTV the couple Chip.

1093
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 2: And Joanne Chip? And you know them only from being

1094
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: in grocery stores and seeing them on Max. Joanna's gotta

1095
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: leave Chip, this guy's a loser. Let's move on. You're

1096
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: one for one. Number two Art Deco design gift wonderful gift.

1097
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: Tell me more. I love a glass cube. I love

1098
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: anything that feels like it could have been sold in

1099
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: the store that the girls took over after Edna's Edibles

1100
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: closed on the Facts of Life.

1101
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: Oh fantastic.

1102
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: You know a hot pink pencil right right at the

1103
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: top of it, it becomes a star. Yes, you just

1104
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: love a flamingo blow up flamingo. Have you ever heard

1105
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: of such a thing. I've never I've never heard of

1106
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: a blow up flamenco. Things that are a sea foam green.

1107
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: You're just like an ornate over the top. I like

1108
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: a Miami Miami really doesn't.

1109
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: They really do? South Beach really does it?

1110
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: Okay?

1111
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: I like it a lot. I stayed at a I

1112
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: filmed something in Miami a couple of years ago, and

1113
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: I stayed in a hotel in South Beach and I

1114
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: went into my room and I was like, you can

1115
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: literally do cocaine off of everything, off of the pillow,

1116
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: off of.

1117
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: Your CBD pillow.

1118
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And literally everything was mirrored and flat, and it

1119
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: was like, this is this was design to die? Yeah,

1120
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: to just nose bleeds, to go through all your heartbeats

1121
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: right and then die.

1122
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: To die in South Beach Dave, you're wrong. Decho is

1123
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 3: a curse, but unfortunately it's because you see these beautiful

1124
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: examples of it, let's say, in Miami, but then you

1125
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: see it replicated by some horrible architect in you know, Torrance,

1126
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: California or something, and it just looks gaudy and horrible.

1127
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: So it kind of it's kind of a haunting thing

1128
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: that I feel like. We have a few beautiful examples

1129
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: of it, you see here and there, but we're all

1130
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: whenever we try to chase art Deco, we fall flat

1131
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: on our faces. So unfortunately you're one hundred percent wrong.

1132
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry.

1133
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: It's a curse, but you're not. You haven't failed.

1134
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: Your reasons are not art Deco's fault, I should point out.

1135
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: I don't care, Dave, I make the rules. Art Deco

1136
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: absolutely a curse, but you can save it here, gift

1137
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: or a curse. Talapia the fish, Tapia, the fish. I'm

1138
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I've never been pleased with

1139
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: the telapia. Okay, it the name evokes flakiness right in

1140
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: my mind. It's it's up there with a squad are

1141
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: a roughie.

1142
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: Okay.

1143
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 2: I do love a salmon. I do love a tuna steak, right,

1144
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 2: I any fish that you cannot eat like sushi style,

1145
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not into it.

1146
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: You're not into it.

1147
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, curse.

1148
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: Dave, my god, you've turned it around. Telapia is absolutely

1149
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: a curse. Yeah, there's no question that this fish is trash.

1150
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not great.

1151
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: What are we eating telapia ever for? And it's bony,

1152
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 3: it's bony. It's like I kinda it's not fish texture

1153
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 3: to me. It's more of a pudding. Yeah, it's a disgusting,

1154
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: horrifying fish, which I just I feel like, let's stop

1155
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: putting it on the menu.

1156
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never going to order it.

1157
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: So no, And the word Yeah, it's not inviting at all.

1158
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: It feels like toxic or it's some sort of mutant

1159
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 3: or like a you know, a city in Texas, which

1160
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: doesn't work for me.

1161
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: No, I don't like it.

1162
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: So so glad you were great, Okay, And I'm glad

1163
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 3: that you were at least able to get two out

1164
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 3: of three. Yeah, your heart, I feel like your heart

1165
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 3: wasn't the right place with heart decho, but it fooled you,

1166
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 3: and I guess that's part of the curse. Of art deco. Yes,

1167
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: that of fools everyone.

1168
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 2: I guess. Well, but you don't know my life though.

1169
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: Oh, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, I know too much. We're

1170
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 3: gonna answer. We're in the final stretch of the podcast.

1171
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: It's called I said no questions.

1172
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

1173
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 3: People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail

1174
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: dot com. They're so desperate they need question they need

1175
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 3: help picking gifts for people in their life. Okay, and

1176
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: so we're gonna give it a shot. I'll read a

1177
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 3: letter here and we'll see if we can find something

1178
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: for them to give whoever. Okay, let me read this

1179
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: all right, High Bridger, My wife and I have a

1180
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 3: friend whose fortieth birthday is coming up. This friend is

1181
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: the absolute cheapest person we've ever met, and we think

1182
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: she'd actually love to get cash as a gift. Do

1183
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 3: you think it's too ghost to give one hundred dollars

1184
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 3: cash instead of a massage, gift certificate or dinner out?

1185
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: That's from Thomas and New York. Wow, I've got thoughts,

1186
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: but I want to hear. I want to hear from

1187
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: a normal human being first.

1188
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not opposed to giving cash as a wedding

1189
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: gift right. As a matter of fact, I lean that

1190
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: way naturally.

1191
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: Wed in gift. It seems like, why not just help

1192
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 3: them build a little, nice, little something or they're gonna

1193
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: need to buy.

1194
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: Things, donate toward their honeymoon. This is a weird thing

1195
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: I have with my mom, like younger, like her grandkids

1196
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: are starting to get married now, and like you know,

1197
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: that generation of her life is starting to get married now.

1198
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: And frequently they'll say, we have everything we need, so

1199
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: just donate to.

1200
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 3: Our uh we're going to Sweden or have.

1201
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: You, And she's like the nerve. But for me, it's

1202
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: like I think just the opposite. I think, like, here's

1203
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: the soup ten we want, you know what I mean, Yeah,

1204
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: here's the you know, get us three forks out of

1205
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: this collection.

1206
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 3: Which by the way, is way more inconvenient. It's super inconvenient.

1207
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: It's super yeah. And it's like it just doesn't make

1208
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: any sense to me. And it is exactly the thing

1209
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: that I think my mom's complaining about, which is like,

1210
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: give me exactly what I want, right, you know what

1211
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the same thing. It's just an experience

1212
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: as opposed to a salad fork.

1213
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: Yes, And it just requires you pushing a button essentially

1214
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: or writing a check.

1215
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: Right. Also, people when they get married nine times out

1216
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: of ten now are either adults, so they if they

1217
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: fucking want a soup toreen of their own, they've bought it.

1218
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: They've got theycy gravy boat, they have it. Or if

1219
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: they or they live together and just everything that they

1220
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: need as a couple, they've already acquired right to have

1221
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: the crock potter. Yes. Anyway, so long story short, I

1222
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: don't mind that for a wedding, giving a friend cash

1223
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: makes you feel like their uncle or grandparents.

1224
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 3: Sure, or you're worried about or.

1225
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: You're worried about them. Yeah, I think if I open

1226
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: those cars in a way that a gift card does not. Right,

1227
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: if it's the same amount of money.

1228
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: If I was at my birthday and I opened a

1229
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 3: card for a friend and they had just given me

1230
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: some amount of money, I think, what do you think

1231
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,959
Speaker 3: is going on in my life?

1232
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1233
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that said, being I relate to the situation as

1234
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: the cheapest person in the world, I would be secretly thrilled.

1235
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: Of course, here's some money to feder away on dinner. Yeah,

1236
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: but would you unless you have to use it?

1237
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: On dinner.

1238
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: Yes, I was.

1239
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: I waste money on food constantly. Here's a weird thing.

1240
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: I if somebody gives me a gift card, I fret

1241
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: over every goddamn penny. I am of it.

1242
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 3: They're my own money.

1243
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't give a fuck. I'm like one

1244
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: percent sailor on Shorley. Haven't give a fuck. Take it

1245
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: with my work. But if somebody gives me like a

1246
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: twenty dollars Target gift card, I'm going to spend the

1247
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: day in Target trying to get twenty dollars worth of

1248
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: great shit. Dave.

1249
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: My wallet has a fifty dollars Target gift card in

1250
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: it right now. It's been in there since Christmas. I've

1251
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 3: been to Target multiple times. I probably spent two hundred

1252
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: dollars at Target. But the gift card is waiting for

1253
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: special little sudden, be something special? What will it be?

1254
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: What could possibly be great enough? Nothing? It's more valuable

1255
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 3: to me than Yeah, it's hard to part with. Yeah,

1256
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 3: it's a very hard odd thing.

1257
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: I would say, if your friend is truly cheap, then

1258
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: she probably will not. There was a mention of a massage.

1259
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: She probably won't get herself a massage, right, if you

1260
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: give her money toward a massage, and truly it is

1261
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: the only thing that you can exchange this thing for

1262
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: is a massage, then she will get it and she

1263
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: won't be thinking about the money that she's wasting getting

1264
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: a massage, which is why I never get a massage.

1265
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: That's all I think about it, Like it drives me nuts.

1266
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm wasting time and money. Sure, but

1267
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: if somebody gave me like a one hundred dollars at

1268
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: Burke Williams or whatever, great I'll go. I'll spend the

1269
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: day and like, yeah, I might even put a little

1270
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: of my own money toward it to like upgrade the

1271
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: experience and get the facial two.

1272
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: Of course, because it's like you're really let's get the

1273
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: cherry on top.

1274
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, yeah, restaurant gift card or massage

1275
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: Envy gift card.

1276
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: The massage thing gives me an idea. This person's cheap.

1277
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: Don't just give them the gift card, give them the tip,

1278
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 3: give them the money for the tip. Then it truly

1279
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: feels completely paid for. Their cheapness is out the window

1280
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 3: of time. Yeah, it's perfect. I do think that's the

1281
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 3: key with a gift card it can't be to a

1282
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 3: big box store because now I'm just living with this thing,

1283
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: waiting for the day that Target will have exactly what

1284
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 3: I want to because one dollar in the Target gift

1285
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: card is forty US dollars to me. And so yeah,

1286
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: you've got to just do the specific thing. Massage restaurant.

1287
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: We answered that. We did it.

1288
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: We absolutely did it, I think definitively.

1289
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no excuse not to give this person

1290
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: exactly what her cheap ass deserves.

1291
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: And our answer echoes I think throughout the culture. Oh

1292
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: of course, it ripples across America. Yeah, the world.

1293
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: The word fALS even this is this is a cross

1294
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: cultural tip. Dave Ridger, We've been through such a journey

1295
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: here and I really appreciate it. I'm sorry that you

1296
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: missed one on the game, but that's fine, Okay. If

1297
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 3: it had been a perfect game, there'd be nothing to remember.

1298
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: There's a part of me that's dying, but that's okay.

1299
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: Of course, we talked about this earlier. You're having a

1300
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 3: hard time now, but it's I'm going to the night

1301
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 3: and just let go, let.

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Speaker 2: It go, let it go. Yeah, I'm all right with it.

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Speaker 2: Bless you drink it away.

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Speaker 3: This is the end of the podcast. I said no

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Speaker 3: Gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel

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Speaker 3: Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by Miracle Worker

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Speaker 3: Amy Mann. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter.

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Speaker 3: At I said no Gifts, and if you have a

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Speaker 3: question or need help getting a gift for someone in

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Speaker 3: your life, email me at I said No Gifts at

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Speaker 3: gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast, Stitcher

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Speaker 3: or wherever you found me, and why not leave a

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Speaker 3: review while you're at it?

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Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come

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Speaker 1: to me empty, And I said, no, guess, your presences

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Speaker 1: presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how

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Speaker 1: did you dare to surbey me?