1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: That is right broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: It is Kevin Figures and Adam Auslin fn A on 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: FSR Fox Football Saturday. You can hit us up on 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: the socials at k fig one is where you can 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: find me on X. You can find Adam at Follow 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: Adam A on X. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 3: Adam. 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: We got a lot to get into tonight slash this morning, 10 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: depending on where you may be listening. 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 4: This is where I usually start pumping up and over 12 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 4: hyping the show. But you cannot over hype this show, 13 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 4: especially because we got a former broadcaster that was sitting 14 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 4: in this chair right for years. At this time, Chris 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 4: Plank is coming up with us in the second hour 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 4: to talk about the Red River rivalry, which is more 17 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 4: than just a tongue twister. 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 5: I learned red River Rival's rivalry. 19 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't do it. I just started calling get 20 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: the red River Shootout. I've given up completely on it. 21 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: Fair enough, but yes, some of you have asked that 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: all happened to Chris Plank. Chris is fine. He's still fine. 23 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: He's still part of the Fox Sports Radio family. He 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: made him walk the Plank to host every Sunday Night 25 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: with Arnie Spaniard wrapping up the NFL action from the 26 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: previous day. And of course he's a silent reporter for 27 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: the Oklahoma Sooners Radio network. So Chris is going to 28 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: join us here in his old time slot, like Adam mentioned, 29 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: coming up next hour as a matter of fact, to 30 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: talk about the Red River shootout. I also have some 31 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: baseball to get into. By the way, what an epic 32 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: game on Friday night. 33 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was. 34 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: The longest postseason game in a winner take all situation 35 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 4: in Major League Baseball history? 36 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: Insane. 37 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 5: Where were you when the. 38 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 4: Mariners got back to the Alcs for the first time 39 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: in twenty four years. 40 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 5: Now, I longer, I can't remember. It wasn't a winner 41 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 5: and take all. 42 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: The Dodgers played the Red Sox in the twenty eighteen 43 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 2: World Series, sir, and that game went to eighteen innings 44 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium. 45 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 5: That's right. I was in attendance at that game. 46 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 2: It was a Friday night, and I think I left 47 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: in like the twelfth or thirteenth. 48 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 5: Is that because they cut off the beer around then? 49 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: Or well obviously, but most importantly because I had to 50 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: be here. I was anchoring at Fox Sports Radio that night. 51 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: So I left the stadium around the twelfth. Then he 52 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: came here, got ready for my anchor shift. I was 53 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: mid update. Jonas Knox, who you hear on two Pros 54 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: and a Cup of Joe at the time, was occupying 55 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: this time slot. He went to me for a bottom 56 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: of the hour update. I was just getting ready to 57 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: toss it back to him. I'll blink up and all 58 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: I see is a ball flying out of Dodger Stadium. Yeah, 59 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 2: no it was not. It was not Albert Poohols t 60 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: o Albert at the time. No, it was actually Max 61 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: Munsey home run I believe off a former Dodger prospect 62 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: Nathan Navaldi at the time, in the eighteenth inning, and 63 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: the Dodgers won their only game of that series in 64 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: eighteen innings. I think that may have been Game four, 65 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: I believe of that World Series. 66 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it could have gone six games if you 67 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: left Rich Hill. And what are you doing? Dave Roberts, 68 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: where is that? He's got him back in the NLCS? 69 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 5: So how much can they complain? Right now? 70 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: They're trying to go back to back and be the 71 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: first team to do so in twenty five years. 72 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how you make it as long as you 73 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: make it right. So we got a lot of baseball 74 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: to talk about. 75 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: Of course, we have the NFL six as we always 76 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: feature here on a Friday night, and we'll also have 77 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 4: a little bit of geek news later this hour. 78 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk some college football. Some huge matchups coming 79 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: up this week in the Big Ten, a very very 80 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: big one in the SEC as well, so we'll get 81 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: into that a little bit later in the show too. 82 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 5: But first, it's first off, there's time that's wrong. 83 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 6: One are the headlines on the announcement to starting quarterback. 84 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 5: I swear it never fails tradition. 85 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Every single week unlike any other there's something new, there's 86 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: a headline story when it comes to the quarterback position 87 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: at the NFL. 88 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: You know, quarterbacks are pretty important and we probably should 89 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: start the show when there's big news like we had 90 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: this week. But also a big Thursday night football game 91 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: with one of the biggest upsets by Big Blue. 92 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 5: Who saw that coming? Not me, no, nobody, I probably. 93 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: I know they just lost to the Saints and it's 94 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: tough to respond after that. I definitely think it was 95 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: tough responding against an Eagles team that had just lost 96 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: as well for the first time this season to the 97 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: Broncos and Jackson Dart bawled out and the Philadelphia Eagles 98 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: from Philly special to a not so special to what 99 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: it was like when I finally got there and had 100 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: Ginos and Pats. I got into Philly last summer. First 101 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: thing I did ten PM. I get Gino's, I get Pats. 102 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 4: I door dashed both of them. The rivalry Philly cheese steaks. 103 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: Tried them both and you know what, pretty mid Really, 104 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: I'm not kiddy, so I should have got a burger. 105 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: So what Philly's best out here in the San Fernando 106 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: Valley's better than the cheese steaks out there Bingo. 107 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 5: Really, Yes, I'm not kidding now. 108 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: Maybe it was because I got him so late, but 109 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: I felt like this is a late night spot, like 110 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 4: this is the famous Pats and Gino war that has 111 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: been going on forever. 112 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 5: Food wars, Philly cheese steak wars. I will say, if 113 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 5: I had to choose between the two, I'll give it 114 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 5: to Patsy. But the point is, yeah. 115 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 4: The Philly cheese steaks tasting a little bit colder right now. 116 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: I'd say so. And you know who else is mid 117 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: despite their four and two record. Philadelphia Eagles because they 118 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: have not played well this year. Now they found a 119 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: way with smoking mirrors to get themselves to a four 120 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: and zero record. 121 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 5: But they could have easily. 122 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: I think they pretty much had that Cowboy game in 123 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: opening night in hand, but certainly could have lost to 124 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They should have lost to the Rams. The 125 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: Rams blew that lead in the second half. Credit to 126 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: the Eagles to shore as a big comeback win, but 127 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: I mean they definitely could have, you know, three losses 128 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: on their ledger at this point in time, and just 129 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: lucked in to a couple of those victories early on. 130 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 2: And those glaring weaknesses that showed themselves early and didn't 131 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: cost them on the scoreboard now is actually starting to 132 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: affect them. 133 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: It's catching up to them. 134 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 4: And it's interesting because we talked about oh, win's a 135 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: win all the time, or some people say that own 136 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: they think a win is a win. 137 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: We own that team. 138 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: No, it matters how you play, because eventually some of 139 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: those bad habits can come back to haunt you, and 140 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: we're seeing it happen now against better competition. Okay, not really. 141 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: The Broncos was that game was tough. They lost that 142 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 4: one late. The Broncos came back, by the way. 143 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: They scored eighteen points in the fourth quarter. I mean 144 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: that the Eagles were dominating them the entire game. I 145 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: mean this and this has been so jek Lin Hyde. 146 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: I mean, we mentioned the ram game off to a 147 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: slow start, they got out to a big lead, and 148 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: the Eagles came back. 149 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: Well, that's just that championship pedigree they have. Of course 150 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: they're gonna come back. That's what it felt like at 151 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: the time. Oh, the Eagles have that in them. They 152 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: are going to find a way to win the ball game. 153 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: Now it looks more like they're not the same team 154 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: as they were. 155 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you juxtaposed that with the following week against 156 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. They got out to a big lead and 157 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: nearly blew it with a banged up Tampa Bay Buccaneer team. 158 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 5: So they found ways to win every which way. 159 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: Where they've played well, they've not been able to run 160 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: the ball at all, by the way, which is glaring. 161 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: And we talked to Greg Cosell about this last week 162 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: on our show. You know, we asked what's the issue 163 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: with the Eagles and specifically Saquon Barkley, and he said 164 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: that offensive line is just not playing the way that 165 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: it played last year. I know they've had injuries. I 166 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: know Landon Dickerson and they've been banged up a little bit, 167 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: but jordanill Lott is there and as far as I know, 168 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: healthy and just not playing as well as he played 169 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: the previous couple of seasons. 170 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 5: They're just not opening the requisite. 171 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: Amount of holes for Saquon Barkley, which puts pressure on 172 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: the passing game. And as you saw on Thursday night, 173 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is missing guys wide open left and right. 174 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: Because that's not the strength of their game that you Yes, 175 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: he can have a comeback against the Rams or another 176 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 2: team here and there, but that's not how they're built. 177 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 2: If they're going to have to throw the ball thirty 178 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: five times a game, they're not gonna win. 179 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: They're supposed to run you over. That's the type of team. 180 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: That's the way they're built. It's a physical brand of football. 181 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 5: That wears on you as the game moves along. 182 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: That interception he through Thursday night, He's staring down his 183 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: receiver the entire time like that, But. 184 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: That's what he does. That's the problem. 185 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: Hurts is not a guy that's gonna drop back and 186 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: work through progressions that their offense isn't built that way. 187 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: He is not built that way, and if you ask 188 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: him to do that, you ask him to play outside 189 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: of himself. 190 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 5: My problem is we talk about this, when we talk 191 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 5: with Greg coach hell about this as well. They are 192 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 5: built upon I. 193 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: Don't want to say a house on sand or a 194 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: house of cards, but there is something gimmicky about their 195 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 4: offense and the way they do things that's so unconventional 196 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 4: nobody else can really replicate it. But they might not 197 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: be able to do that soon because they may take 198 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: away the tush push, which almost got voted out this 199 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: past year. If it gets voted out this summer, a 200 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: lot of people are gonna start looking at that championship 201 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: they won and say, oh, that's an asterisk. 202 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 5: They couldn't have done it. I would have the tush push. 203 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: Well, you think it's gonna go that far where people 204 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: will put an asterisk. 205 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: Next to it? 206 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, it was a Wikipedia but it 207 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: was it was legal at the time that they did it. 208 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: So I'll opposing fans will do that. I mean sure, 209 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: I mean and honestly I think it's a little bit 210 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: of sour grapes. I'm not the biggest fan of the play, no, 211 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: but I feel like because people can't find a way 212 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: to stop it, they feel like it needs to be outlawed. 213 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 5: They can't find a way to officiate it though, either, 214 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: which is a big problem. 215 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a huge issue, and that they ran it 216 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: four times the other night, four times in a row 217 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: at that and at a certain point it gets to 218 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: the entertainment value of it. It's just not necessarily fun 219 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: to watch either. Nobody wants to see that. 220 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: It's not athetically pleasing sights football, Yeah, rugby out there. 221 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm watching. I think it is 222 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: going to be outlawed. But they are running an offense 223 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: that somewhat relies upon that play, that relies upon running 224 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: the football, and Saquon Barkley is averaging I think three 225 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: and a half yards per carry. The offensive line is 226 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: a problem. He still looks like he has burst out there. 227 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: But there is something to guys who run for two 228 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: k and then that next year fall off a little bit. 229 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: We talked about it with James Co, fantasy football expert, 230 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: before the season started, but. 231 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: He talked about the rule of three seventy and he 232 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: was mentioning it. Three seventy is a number of carries 233 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 5: that Dereck Henry had the year before, and there seems 234 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: to be a curse there. It's not a curse, it's 235 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 5: just a workload issue where that next season it's still taxing. 236 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: Some of the tread is off the tires. It takes 237 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 4: some skin off, guys. It's actually you're seeing it now 238 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 4: with Derreck Henry. Maybe that's part of what's happening with 239 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley, or maybe this is a game plan thing, 240 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: and maybe this is receivers barking with their quarterback like 241 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 4: their to and McNabb back in two thousand. 242 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: And Yeah, AJ Brown, you know saying there was supposedly 243 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: this meeting between Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown and Saquon 244 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: Barkley last week to sort of clear the air and 245 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: talk about the issues. A. J. Brown's been kind of, 246 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: you know, chirping a little bit these last couple of weeks, 247 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: and then yesterday AJ Brown on Thursday, J Brown says 248 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: like they weren't a meeting. What are you talking about? 249 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: Or I don't recall there being a meeting. What do 250 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: you guys mean, I was like, I don't know. Saquon 251 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: talked about it, and Jalen talked about it, but then 252 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: he was security cameras here. Yeah, so then he sends 253 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: out a tweet like, oh, is walking to my car 254 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: and I just happened to run into those two guys 255 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: and we chatted for a few minutes. 256 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 5: I wouldn't necessarily call it a meeting. 257 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, some man ticks AJ like, come on, man, yeah, Like, 258 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: obviously you're upset. 259 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 5: I get it. 260 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: You're a talented receiver, you're one of the best in 261 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: the league. You're not getting your requisite amount of touches, 262 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: and the team I can't see, the team isn't winning. 263 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: There were four and one going into Thursday night. But 264 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: this is kind of what happens, I guess a lot 265 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: of times when a team is struggling. Look, there were 266 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: four and oh, but we all knew that there were 267 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: issues with this team in the way that they were performing, 268 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: and that it probably wasn't gonna be sustainable. These issues 269 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: were gonna pop up in up costing them victories at 270 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: a certain point. Now, all of a sudden, you're getting 271 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of I don't want to say, a 272 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: dissension in the locker room, but you have guys start 273 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: chirping about what they're getting and not having their touches 274 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: on top of the fact that you lost two games 275 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: in a row. 276 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 5: It's really a bad seed right now. 277 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: The disease of me is pat Riley would say, guys 278 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 4: are splintering. There's a bit of a schism there, considering 279 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: they just won the championship, and we're not going to 280 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 4: be able to just hunker down here and figure this out. 281 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: We're gonna talk to the media. We're gonna complain about 282 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: how often you're seeing the football thrown your way. The 283 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 4: season just started, right and while you can say, and 284 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 4: you're right, the way they were playing while they were winning, 285 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 4: it wasn't sustainable. We figured that out pretty quick now 286 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 4: the last two weeks. It still raises an eyebrow when 287 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 4: you're four to zero and you have a receiver complaining 288 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: about not seeing the football enough. Now I can go 289 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: back to the greatest receiver of all time and Jerry Rice. 290 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: He places with the Raiders did when they won games. 291 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 4: But people don't remember that. There wasn't Twitter back then. 292 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: People didn't the headlines like they do nowadays. In the 293 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: twenty four to seven news cycle typically eats these things 294 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 4: up quickly and you move on. But they're not able 295 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 4: to if you keep losing like this and they're not 296 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 4: finding answers, or they're not finding that magic elixir, that 297 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 4: potion and that special sauce they had last season to 298 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: get through and be the best team in the world 299 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 4: and dominate the Super Bowl like they did. There are 300 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: expectations for a team that is in Philadelphia. That's what 301 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: we're talking about here with the Eagles. 302 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is different. 303 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also have to talk about Kevin Patulo, 304 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: the new offensive coordinator. I know this is what their 305 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: third offensive coordinator in the last four seasons, and this 306 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: turnover there, and I thought it was interesting. Another thing 307 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: that AJ Brown said after Thursday Night's game is that 308 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 2: they lack an identity. It's like, I feel like you've 309 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: had the same identity for the last six years or whatever. 310 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: It's been five years since Jalen Hurts has been the 311 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: starting quarterback. 312 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: They made a Super Bowl, they lost the Super Bowl, 313 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 4: then they got back and won it. 314 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 5: They've been this team. 315 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: You're a run first offense that you know, takes advantage 316 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: and makes big plays in the passing game when it 317 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: presents itself, your identity is already there, regardless of who 318 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator has been, whether it's been Kellen Moore 319 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: or anybody else. 320 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 5: So that's the part that I don't understand. 321 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: And the fact that Saquon Barkley had what twelve carries 322 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: on Thursday night in a game that was close for 323 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: the most part, that the Giants obviously ran away with it, 324 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: you know, pretty late, but for the most part, it's 325 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 2: not if the Eagles were out of it and never 326 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: were forced to throw from like the second the second 327 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: quarter on or anything. How Saquon Barkley only has twelve carries. 328 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: I know the old line isn't playing that well, And 329 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to hand it off to 330 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: him and have him run up the back of the 331 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: guard eighteen times in a row, but you gotta let 332 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: him cook a little bit and give him some more 333 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: opportunities in which makes me believe Adham, I don't know. 334 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: He looks fine to me, But you talk about the 335 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: carries issue that we mentioned with James co before before 336 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: the season started with Fantasy football, and whether or not 337 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: there's a wear and tear issue. He looks okay, But 338 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: I wonder if he actually is okay, and maybe he's 339 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,239 Speaker 2: feeling a little bit of something. 340 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 4: It's worth I guess, speculating about at this point, why 341 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: aren't they calling more plays for him? 342 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 5: Now? The answer may be staring us in the face. 343 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 5: We just brought it up. 344 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: You got receivers warning the ball more while you're not 345 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: winning ball games because you're not running the ball as 346 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 4: well as you did last season. 347 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 5: So if the solution to all of this. 348 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: Is running the ball more, it's not gonna make the 349 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: receivers happy, even if you're winning apparently, but you're not 350 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: doing it by playing through them. That leads me to 351 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: think that this problem isn't going away anytime soon. 352 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me thinking people kind of speculated on 353 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: this last week with that Denver game because they threw 354 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: the ball so much and they really didn't need to, 355 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: especially considering that they were in the lead for the 356 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: majority of the game, and that this is out of 357 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: the coaching staff making a statement to the receivers, all right, 358 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: we're gonna let you guys eat. 359 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 5: We'll throw the ball. Oh look what happened. 360 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: We allowed them to come back and get us because 361 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: we didn't actually play clock ball in the second half. 362 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: Not that they were trying to lose the game, no, 363 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: but this is what happens. We want us to open 364 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: up and throw the ball more and get away from 365 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: what we usually do. 366 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 5: All right, point proven, So what that will happened on 367 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 5: Thursday night? 368 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: Why did you run the ball fourth in sixteen eighteen 369 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: times wherever it was as a team and Saquon Barkley 370 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: only had twelve of them. 371 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: Now, part of it could have been the Giants got 372 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: up up on them by double dis It's early on 373 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: and they kind of kept them at bay, staying up 374 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: by about ten points. Philly was playing from behind, and 375 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: I don't believe they scored in the second second half 376 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: of the game. No, when they got into the close to 377 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: the red zone, that's when that pick happened with Jalen 378 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: Hurts staring down his receiver. 379 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 5: So some of it is by just the measure of 380 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 5: the way the game played out. 381 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: But this is something that when you hear about guys 382 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: talking to the locker room about identity, when you are 383 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl champions, when you brought back for the 384 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: most part the same squad, you shouldn't be dealing with 385 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: these issues six weeks into the season like. 386 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: This, that's alarming. That's concerning. 387 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: If I'm in Philadelphia, if I'm an Eagles fan, Yeah, 388 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: I got real concerns after losing to the Giants and 389 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback like that. 390 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and the issues I think even stem 391 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: further than just the offense, I mean defensively, you know. 392 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: And give credit obviously to the New York Giants, and 393 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: if we have time here, we can talk about them 394 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: and Jackson Darton the impact that he's had these three 395 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: weeks that he's been the starting quarterback. 396 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 5: But this game said more of Philly to me, right, 397 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 5: Oh it did. 398 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And look and it sounds like we're disparaging the 399 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: Giants and we're not hell. 400 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 5: Of a win. Yeah, but you aren't a contender this year. 401 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: Right. 402 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 5: The story is in that locker room because they're supposed 403 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 5: to be much better in this. 404 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: And that defense has not been sacking the quarterback at 405 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: the rate that they have been. 406 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: They've not been stopping the run at the rate that 407 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 5: they have in the past. 408 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: There is a little bit juice and look, maybe that's 409 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: part of the you know, we know how symbiotic a 410 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: lot of times these games are there's a complimentary aspect 411 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: to your offense and your defense, and maybe the defense 412 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: is kind of frustrated with the way the offense is 413 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: performing and that's affecting them. But that Eagles defense certainly 414 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: is not performing the way, at least not consistently the 415 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: way that they have these in the past couple of seasons. 416 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 5: Especially on Thursday. 417 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: Night, you wonder if it's gonna take a wake up 418 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: call like this and that level of desperation kicks in, 419 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: and maybe there's another meeting that happens, a player's only meeting, 420 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: and these guys finally come to an agreement on how 421 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: they have to play to win. Maybe they watched tape 422 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: from last year, but it just doesn't smell right now. 423 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: The good news for them is while the Commanders are 424 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: starting to play better, they still are in a division 425 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 4: where they can be in control. And that's the one 426 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 4: saving grace right now with Philadelphia. 427 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 5: Although senior divisional games. 428 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean the Dallas Cowboys and they have 429 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: a leg up on them already with that opening night victory, 430 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: are I think are performing better than a lot of 431 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: people thought they would, and they actually had one of 432 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: their better defensive performances of the season so far. 433 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: Last week, I know it was the Jets. 434 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: Notwithstanding, so I mean that division, which most people thought. 435 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody thought Philly would run away 436 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 5: with it. 437 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: I think most people thought it was kind of the 438 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: Phillies and the Commanders to lose. I think it's a 439 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: little bit more competitive than people may have assumed, considering 440 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: that the Cowboys are kind of in that mix as well. 441 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 4: At this point, you mentioned Jackson Dard and we've talked 442 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: about this before. As good as he has played so far, 443 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 4: it is so reckless. He looks like a crash test 444 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: dummy out there. 445 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: A lot from a dummy. 446 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 5: I am concerned. 447 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 4: I mentioned him trying to be the white VIC, It's 448 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: more like I don't want him to have the path 449 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: of the White RG three, to put it that way, 450 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 4: because his rookie season, remember what he was doing with 451 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: the with the football. He ended up getting hurt in 452 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: that playoff game I think against Seattle eventually with Washington 453 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: and was never the same. 454 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 5: But he took so many chances with his legs. It's 455 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 5: just not realistic that you can keep playing like that 456 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 5: and stay in this league that long. 457 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 4: And if that's the way you do have to play 458 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 4: to win games. Right now, that's worrisome to me. 459 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're Jackson Dart, you just have to realize, 460 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: you know, you have to play more like prime Russell 461 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: Wilson and less like prime Steve McNair. 462 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 5: You are a slide. 463 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: You ain't built that way. You're not gonna sit over 464 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: here in truck a linebacker or even a safety consistently. 465 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: We have to open cushion controversy on Thursday night with 466 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: Brian da bol and Rush trying to rush him back 467 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 2: into the game. 468 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 5: He was about to fake being a doctor. 469 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna put some scrubs on before 470 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: he went into the blue tent and clear him himself. 471 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: That's one of they get the smelling salts, smack him 472 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: on the buttons, say get back out there, kid. 473 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? Is fourth down? 474 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 4: I don't know I've ever seen a head coach get 475 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: upset with the team doctor or athletic trader like that 476 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 4: before I need him. 477 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 5: Have you seen Russell Wilson. That's a first one. 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Recort that rivalry, red 521 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 4: River rivalry, red River rivalry, red River rivalry, red River rivalry. 522 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 5: Almost Why is it so hard? What in God's holy 523 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 5: name are you blathering about? 524 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: That was a pretty good streak you hat there. That 525 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: was what three consecutive ones flubbing it? 526 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 5: That's pretty good. 527 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll try it again with Chris Plank a little 528 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: bit later. Okay, Bree shaking her hey, like, no, that 529 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 4: wasn't that good Red River rivalry. 530 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 5: What's up, Bree? What's up? 531 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: We were talking last segment about the Philadelphia Eagles and 532 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 2: their issues that they've run into in recent weeks, really 533 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: issues they've been having all season long, despite their four 534 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: and two record, and then losing to Jackson Dark and 535 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: the New York Giants on Thursday Night. Now, if you 536 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: were recalled a few weeks ago when the Giants made 537 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: the switch to bring in Jackson Dark, I questioned it 538 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: and whether or not it was the right time to 539 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: do it, and whether or not Brian day ball On 540 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: James Joe Shane were doing it because they felt that 541 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart was ready to assume the role of starting 542 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: quarterback of the Giants, or because those guys were just 543 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: so freaking desperate and they knew Russell Wilson was so bad. 544 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: Let's just throw him in there and see what happens 545 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 2: and maybe he'll make something work. Nowhere else's turn. You 546 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: know what, it worked out, even if his stat lines 547 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: are not necessarily the most phenomenal. No, there's something to 548 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: be said, Adam for inserting a guy and giving a 549 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: team a little bit of a spark. He certainly did 550 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: that in that game against the Chargers three weeks ago. 551 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: Even if it's that line wasn't phenomenal there and it 552 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: really wasn't, but there was just a little bit of juice, 553 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: an invigoration into that offense and especially into that defense 554 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: that particularly week against the Chargers, that I don't think 555 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: can be discounted. And if he can continue to improve 556 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: and granted to your to your point last segment, not 557 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: take shots left and right, that may shorten his career. 558 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 5: If he keeps doing that, Yes, you end up like 559 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 5: Steve Young. Yeah, and E. S. Williams has come and 560 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: look out, one of the all time greats in the 561 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 5: underrated even though he's a Hall of Famer. 562 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: It's the last play from Steve Young. It usually doesn't 563 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 4: end well, didn't LeVar Arrington here at Fox Sports Radio? 564 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 5: And Troy Aikman's. 565 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: Career, Yes, and Derek Brooks ended Rich Gannon's career. There's 566 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: a couple of those. 567 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 5: You mean because the Super Bowl or it just. 568 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: Not effectively ended Rich's career. But no, that very next season, 569 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers came to Oakland and played the Raiders, and 570 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: uh Rich I believe was trying to slide and Derek Brooks, 571 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: you know, tried to tackle him. 572 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 5: It wasn't malicious at all. He put him in with 573 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 5: one of those like dog cone things. Basically, we're rich 574 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 5: gannon like I almost had his neck broken or maybe 575 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 5: did have it fractured, and it was wearing one of 576 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 5: those dog combes. 577 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 2: He hit him in the neck and he had a 578 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: whole back thing, and that basically for it. Rich was 579 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: also like forty two at the time or whatever it was. 580 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: He was a knocking on the door of retirement. 581 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 4: He wanted to be as old as his receivers at 582 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 4: that point. Iim Brown and Jerry Right. 583 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: Were the oldest run They had the average age of 584 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: like thirty seven or something. 585 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: That they understood each other or they were going to 586 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 4: be on the field at all times. 587 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: So the extra juice and motivation that Jackson Dart infused 588 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: into that lineup for the Giants was infectious, and I 589 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: think it showed even that loss to the Saints that 590 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: got out to a hot start, Jackson showed that he 591 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: was a rookie obviously with a couple of turnovers and 592 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: Sody cam Scattabo who had that big fumble, but he's 593 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: played well for them too. Now we're wondering about something 594 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: that we discussed just last week on the F and 595 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: A takeover of Yes of FSR Adam. We were talking 596 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: in the six pack, I believe, and I believe I 597 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: brought up the Cincinnati Bengals and that I was putting 598 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: Jake Browning under the microscope because he had not played 599 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: well they started to and oh they've lost three straight 600 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: and considering how wide opened the AFC North Division seems 601 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: at this point in time, because Baltimore is struggling, we 602 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: discussed whether or not Jake Browning should be the guy 603 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: if he were to struggle again, which of course he 604 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: did last week. But let's take a little bit of 605 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: a listen to what we said last weekend about the 606 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: future or potential future of the Cincinnati Bengal quarterback situation. 607 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: Let's hit it, Brie. 608 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 5: Let's hit it, Brie. Win chimes, we're going back in time. 609 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: This is it us from last week. Come on, we 610 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 5: got it. 611 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: In time travel? 612 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: Maybe not? I hosted at F and A show. 613 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 4: I was so proud of this prediction, like I really 614 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: went out of my way to make sure because hey, 615 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: when we're wrong, you'll hear nothing about it, so it 616 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: will never bring it up when we're right, we're gonna 617 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: bring it up every single time. 618 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, in my defense, I did bring up the fact 619 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: that I was basically wrong about Jackson Dart. 620 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 5: I can admit to that. 621 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 3: That's fine. 622 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 5: I've been wrong a lot, but baby was is wrong 623 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 5: for telling that the. 624 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 6: Audio all difficulties were up over here and I pressed 625 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 6: the play button. 626 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 5: And I have no idea. Are you sure the video 627 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 5: is not muted, because that oftentimes. 628 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: Will happen the browser muted, and so essentially so we 629 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: had the discussion. And if Jake Browning struggles again, I 630 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: think the Cincinnati Bengals, if they are going to stay 631 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: alive in the playoff race in the AFC North, might 632 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: have to look at making a trade for a veteran quarterback. 633 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: I think I threw out a couple of names. Do 634 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: you think we have it now, Bree? 635 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 5: Hell no, we don't have it now. No, you just 636 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 5: want to say, you know the guy Co commercial is 637 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 5: a guy Co with the dollar. Oh you almost got it. 638 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: You almost goot it on the fishing Paul, Thanks for 639 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: I threw out names. I threw out Jamis Winston. I 640 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: even threw out the red Rifle. Who's backing up Bryce 641 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: Young in Carolina? Andy Dalton, Maybe your reunion there. Kirk Cousins. 642 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins was a guy we brought up, although we 643 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: did admit that probably not realistic considering his contract, having 644 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: his contract on the books, and Joe Burrow is probably 645 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: not prudent for one of the more frugal franchises in sports, 646 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. 647 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 5: You brought up a name, Adam, and I thought it 648 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 5: was tongue in cheek, and maybe it was, but not 649 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: now it's not because it came true. Adam brought out 650 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 5: the name of Joe Flacco. 651 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco in division with the Cleveland Browns not playing 652 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: well to say the least, what two touchdown passes, six interceptions, 653 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: completing fifty seven percent of his passes this year. 654 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 5: I mean for a Cleveland's Brown quarterback, that's actually about 655 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 5: par for the course. It is. It is they've gone 656 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 5: through forty the last twenty five. 657 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: Years, the extremely rare inter division trade of a quarterback, 658 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: no doubt. 659 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 5: That's when you know a guy's washed. 660 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 2: No, Well, there's something to be said because if you're 661 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, you're willing to trade a starting quarterback 662 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: within your division. Did this happen, says something Donovan McNabb. Yeah, 663 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: you got traded to the Washington the Redskins at the time. 664 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: I believe that was in the off season, though, too 665 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: the thing goes a little bit. Yeah, it's not as 666 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: not doesn't hurt as much. 667 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: These are two teams. 668 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: In a different place, and if the Cleveland Browns didn't 669 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 4: have two rookie quarterbacks that they probably would like to 670 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: move on to and that was always part of their plan. 671 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: This season, Wheels fell off and they have yep, with 672 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco that this was always an option, of course, 673 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: But I still think it makes sense to some degree, 674 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: even when you're trading within a division like this, only 675 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: because I mean, come on at Joe Flacco. 676 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 5: How much is he going to come back to hurt 677 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 5: you anyways? 678 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: That's true, which if you're Cincinnati, like, how much is 679 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: he gonna help you? 680 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 5: If the issue is that's what it is. 681 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: Adham, It's like you're making a desperate movie or taking 682 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: a shot in the dark. He's like, well, this guy's available, 683 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: and we knew what he's able to do when he 684 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: has a strong arm, lest bring him in and see 685 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: he can't do much worse than Jake Browning's doing. So 686 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: let's bring the problem is Jake Browning at least can 687 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: move a little bit and behind that offensive line. I 688 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: am very fearful for Joe Flacco's health and safety at 689 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: forty two years old, knowing that he's a statue and 690 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: pretty much has been. 691 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 4: His entire career. He was born a statue. Yeah so 692 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 4: high doctor slapped him on the ass and it hurt him. 693 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: Like Joe Burrow is one of the most elusive quarterbacks 694 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: in the entire league and he can't stay healthy. 695 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 5: But that behind that offensive line. 696 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: I think this is mostly about in Cincinnati playcating to 697 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 4: the fans, like we have to do something. 698 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 5: We're seeing what you are with Jake Browning. It's not working. 699 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 5: We have to go a different direction, and at least 700 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 5: when the pr like at least when it for a 701 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: week before they get smashed by the Green Bay Packers 702 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 5: in Green Bay coming up on Sunday. 703 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: But just to see that we're trying. We are at 704 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: least exhausting our options right now. The fans were actually 705 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: clamoring for Jamis Winston. There was a believe it or not, 706 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: a Bengals fan wearing a paper bag that said make 707 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: the Bengals great again, bring in Jameis Winston. It's like 708 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: that is I never thought i'd see something like that. 709 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 4: They are honestly, they just. 710 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: Woantn't be entertained. Like we may still lose, but Jameis 711 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: Winston's gonna throw for three touchdowns and four picks. It's 712 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 5: gonna be at least entertaining, because look, you have all 713 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 5: the talent in the world. 714 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: You signed T Higgins to the giant contract, you sign 715 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase even says something to the effect this week 716 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: is like, I mean, yeah, at least we're trying, you know, 717 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: at least we're putting out some to try to shake 718 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 2: things up. 719 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 5: And I don't give to appease the wide receiver. 720 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: Correct who they just paid all this money to. I mean, 721 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: I understand it, you know. And if I were in, 722 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: you know, Mike Brown in that front office is situation, 723 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: even though I don't think it's gonna work, I would 724 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: do it too, just to show, like, hey, we realize 725 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: where we are here, we realize our defense is still terrible. 726 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: I think they're you know, pretty much third to last 727 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: in every defensive category. At this point in time. But 728 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: we have all the offensive talent in the world. We 729 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: can potentially perform better if we bring in a veteran 730 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: quarterback who has a little bit of experience. So I 731 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna work, but I guess I'll give 732 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: them credit for at least trying. 733 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's. 734 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: Still with thin grass. Look, if the Baltimore Ravens were 735 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: fully healthy and we're undefeated and we're running away with 736 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: the division or something, maybe it will make a little 737 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: bit more sense. Don't trade away assets, just kind of 738 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: ride it out with Jake Browning and unfortunately chalk it 739 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: up to a lost season. You at this point in 740 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: time at least see a little bit of a light 741 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 2: at the end of the tunnel and say, all right, well, 742 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: we're two and three at this point, Baltimore struggling. Pittsburgh 743 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: is solid but certainly not dominant. We actually have a 744 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: chance to potentially win this division if we can have 745 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: a couple of things break our way. So I certainly 746 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: understand and the rationale behind why you would want to 747 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: make a move like this. I just don't think that 748 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: Joe Flacckell was the right person to bring in. 749 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't have a lot of great options. Obviously 750 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 4: we mentioned Russell Wilson before. That's what you're looking at. 751 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 4: It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. But when the 752 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: barrel is misfiring in the arm of Jake Browning, it 753 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 4: still feels like, Hey, a little bit of wind in 754 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 4: our sales. We got some positive news here. We're going 755 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 4: to see something different this week. It may still be 756 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: really bad, but it's a different shade of bad than 757 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 4: what we've been seeing the last three weeks. 758 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: Well, the call part is still like Joe flaccol has 759 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: no experience with his coaching staff, no experience in the 760 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: AF He admitted this when he did his introductiony press 761 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: conference on Friday. You know, just being able to break 762 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: the huddle and have the right catence and call the 763 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: right place. This guy's been now. Granted, Baker Mayfield did 764 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: it against the Raiders, but that's the Raiders was talking 765 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: about here. A couple of years ago when he went 766 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: to the Rams after being with him for three days 767 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: at Lantam two went against the Raiders. 768 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 5: On Thursday night, I think, or a Monday night whatever 769 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 5: it was. So to be fair, they didn't have a 770 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: lot of tape on him playing for the Rams. 771 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: Yet that's not This situation is a little bit different 772 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: when you're playing against a legitimate Super Bowl contender on 773 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: the road, A little bit of a different situation. 774 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Green Bay Packers are favored by fourteen in 775 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: that game, rightfully, So I don't think Joe Flacco moved 776 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 4: the line in a positive direction. I don't think he's 777 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: worth a point or even a half a point, not 778 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 4: even a quarter point, which they don't do. 779 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 5: That's a baby hook, That's what you would. 780 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 4: Call that in gambling. But I commend them for trying something. 781 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 4: Is this going to be the savior they're looking for? 782 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: No? 783 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if people still feel like, you know, 784 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: you catch a hot streak with Joe Flacco, you just 785 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: never know what can happen. 786 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: The play off, Joe, You just get him to the 787 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: postseason and see what happens. 788 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: Is that the level of faith some fans still have 789 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: that we're saying he was elite back then in twenty 790 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 4: twelve or whenever it was. 791 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 5: I think that's fairly irrational. 792 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: It is he's over the hill. He's about to retire. 793 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: He was retired. They called him out of retirement, a 794 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Well, he's sitting on his couch. 795 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 4: Sometimes it takes two retirements to actually settle into it 796 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: and realize that's that's your place. 797 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 5: That's brettforv exactly. 798 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: So uh, the Cincinnati Bengals, good luck to you. The 799 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco experiment is about to be underway. Speaking of experiments, Yes, 800 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 4: coming up next in geek News, it looks like we 801 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: have the science, Kevin. 802 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 5: We finally got down to it. 803 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: Yes, science do nice guys finish, last research has been done. 804 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 5: We'll give you the answer. Coming up next, he's Kevin Figures. 805 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 5: I'm Adam Moslin. This is fn A on FSR. 806 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: Name's that housewares fn A cotton. 807 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: Back in on the f and A takeover of FSR 808 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: F and A on FSR. Kevin Figures and Adam Awson 809 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: with you hit us on the socials at kfig one 810 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: and at follow Adam A. Coming up at the top 811 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: of the next hour, we would get into our NFL 812 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: six pack for week six. But coming up right now, Adam, 813 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: let's get to it. 814 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 5: Let's goodman, you're playing D and D tonight. You want 815 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 5: to come case this. 816 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: Let's guys, don't be choosed that I've been chying online 817 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: with babes all day. 818 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: Just keep your power close up. 819 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 5: Her right wants Kennelin. 820 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 4: So there's a long held belief or a stereotype that 821 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 4: women want the bad boy and nice guys always finish last. 822 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 5: They don't want Steve Erkle. 823 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: I treat her so well, and I'm so nice to her, 824 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 2: and I give her flowers all the time, and all 825 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: this guy does is treat her like trash and ignores 826 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: all of her text messages. 827 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 5: I don't understand. They don't want Rkele. They want Stefan. 828 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: Stefan or Kel. That's right, good pull. 829 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 4: They don't want boring and stable, they want unpredictable and dysfunctional. 830 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 4: They want a man who will recklessly spend money. He 831 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: doesn't have my paying for a five hundred dollars night 832 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 4: and putting it on his credit card while meanwhile he's 833 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: two months late on his rent. 834 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: That's right. 835 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 5: I'll shake your head, Brie. All them is fast. 836 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 4: That's a taste of America right there for you. And 837 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: it's science too. You're about to find that out. 838 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 5: And short Ferrari, that's a fleet car that you got 839 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 5: from work. 840 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 4: You know what's one of my favorite memes flirting versus harassment? 841 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 5: Have you seen that one? 842 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 3: Kevin? 843 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: I haven't. 844 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: But uh, it's the same statement made by two different men. 845 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 4: Oh okay, I got you, and the statement is, hey. 846 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 5: That dress looks sexy on you. 847 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 4: Now, from the good looking guy, it's perceived as flirting, 848 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 4: but the big ogre looking dude with a quad schin 849 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: is perceived as harassment. Away for me, yeah, that guy 850 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: might have got pepper spray. 851 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, the first guy is like, oh, really. 852 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: Flirting versus harassment? So how much do looks in style 853 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 4: play a role in attracting the opposite sex or attracting 854 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 4: females in this case? And do nice guys really finish last? 855 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: So a study was conducted and published in the Journal 856 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: of Research and Personality. I'm sure the researchers for this 857 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 4: have some really big personalities and weren't socially awkward at all, 858 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 4: the nerds. But a questionnaire was sent out to thirty 859 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 4: eight hundred adults in Australia, Denmark and Sweden and they 860 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: were asked whether they were in a relationship and if so, 861 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 4: how satisfied they were with it. Well, when it came 862 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 4: to kindness, there was a divide between the two sexes. 863 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 4: Women who were more agreeable, meaning empathetic, cooperative, patient were 864 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 4: no more likely to be in a relationship than women 865 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: in whom these qualities were less pronounced. For men, though, 866 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: agreeability agreeableness seemed to work against them, The correlation between 867 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 4: kindness and being in a relationship was weak but slightly negative. 868 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 4: In other words, the nicer he was, the less likely 869 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 4: he was to. 870 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 5: Have a partner. 871 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: You know what I hate most about this study that 872 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 4: I'm not that nice and I still am single and 873 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 4: ready to mingle here. But the study says I have 874 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 4: a better chance of being in a relationship if I'm 875 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 4: more of an a hole. 876 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 5: So he needs to be more of an a a 877 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 5: hole than you already are. Now impossible. I was gonna say, 878 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 5: that's pretty hard to do, I find to be honest. 879 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 4: Maybe I need to take things up a notch. Kevin, 880 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: Here's what I'm thinking next, girl, I like, I'm just 881 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 4: pulling pranks left and right on her. I'm pulling a 882 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: chair out from underneath her using a whoopee cushion. I'm 883 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 4: stealing her parking spot, I'm teeping her house doorbell, ditching her. 884 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: You're going straight back to middle school. Basically, is this 885 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 2: what you want? 886 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 4: You want me to be mean and nasty? Like, this 887 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 4: is this what I have to do to take things 888 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 4: up a notch to be the right type of jerk 889 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 4: to pass as a mate? Like maybe if I get 890 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 4: her number, I'll just prank call her a lot and 891 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 4: she'll like me because of that. 892 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 5: Is that how it works? 893 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: I feel like there's probably the word nice is probably 894 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: being used out of context to a certain degree. 895 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 5: I'm gonna give her what Willie Well, I'll mean atia 896 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 5: she might be into that. You never know, I might 897 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 5: find the right one. 898 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 2: Like there's the idea like if a guy who literally 899 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: just fawns over a woman that will give her anything 900 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: that she wants, and it's being ultra submissive. 901 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 5: Of simp city. 902 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah basically yeah, but if you be in a simp 903 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: and it's like that's a huge turn off for women. 904 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: You can be a nice person but be pretty confident 905 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: in yourself and have boundaries and say what you you 906 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: know like and don't like. And if she says she 907 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: wants to do something and you don't just like and 908 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 2: stand on business on that's like now not really feeling that. 909 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 4: Sorry, ten toes down yeah, basically, so I was like, 910 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 4: I think to make yourself too available, that's kind of 911 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 4: what it is, or at least just make sure you 912 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 4: stand on something and don't just submit to every to 913 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 4: all of her whims because women don't find that attractive. 914 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 5: That is part of what this study says. But you 915 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 5: could be nice. That's different. 916 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: Being a kind person is different than being a pushover, 917 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: I guess is the way that I read. 918 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 5: It right, looking weak or meek? 919 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can be nice and still be confident 920 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: without veering into arrogant. Necessarily, it's the confidence aspect that 921 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 4: they seem to like most. 922 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: But there are women out there who love arrogant aholes 923 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 2: who are very flighty and don't return calls and all 924 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: that stuff. It draws them in. Depends on the type 925 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: of person you're looking for. 926 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 5: I guess, center straight to voice mail. I got her 927 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 5: for I got her good ring. 928 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 4: Now, now that's true. They like the negging. Sometimes you 929 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 4: have to give them a hard time and uh, they'll 930 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 4: eventually come around. I mean, play hard to get baby. 931 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 4: So I don't know, as a dude, are you so? 932 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 4: I mean you've mentioned your situation here, Adam. Is that 933 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 4: the issue that you're finding Are you being? Are you 934 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 4: being one? Either too much of one or too much 935 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 4: of the other. I just stopped going out much once 936 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 4: I stopped drinking. I think the problem that social lubricnt 937 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 4: is not as prevalent in my life anymore. 938 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 2: So you can knock back a few Shirley Temples and 939 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 2: still spit some games. So yeah, seven up with cherry, 940 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 2: grenadine or whatever. 941 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 5: Exactly, get that little cherry in there. 942 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 3: Why not. 943 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 5: That's a big night for me. I am sure, you 944 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 5: know that's that's everything now. 945 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never thought this cherry until I started talking 946 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 2: to you. You know, there's something like that, you know 947 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 2: what I mean? 948 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like I just have to 949 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 4: be even worse. I have to be a worse guy 950 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 4: to find for for women to find me more attractive. 951 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 4: That's what it's gonna take, according to the study at. 952 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: Least, well the study of Australians and sweetens and where else. 953 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 5: Oh, there's so much different than us, Kevin. 954 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: But I'm just I mean, there are. 955 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 5: Some culture and norms that art maybe a little bit different. 956 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 5: Not at the Red House. At the Red House, you 957 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 5: haven't seen that. 958 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 2: Look that up on YouTube. 959 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 5: By the way. 960 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. 961 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 5: That's a classic. It's right up there with Spirit of Truth. 962 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: Another oldie but goodie for sure. If you're an fn 963 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: A listener, you know about the Spirit of Truth. 964 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: I just thought it was interesting that there finally was 965 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 4: some cold, hard facts when it came to this subject. 966 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 4: People really want to know. Do nice guys finish last? 967 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 4: And sometimes even guys that aren't that nice end up 968 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 4: finishing last. 969 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 5: There's still hope for. 970 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: Me, though, Oh ah, I was gonna say, I was 971 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: gonna say so. Basically, what we can surmise is that 972 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: there's just no hope for some people. Regardless of how 973 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: nice you are or how mean you are. You're just 974 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: a lost cause you call me a cat person. Not necessarily, 975 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 2: I was saying, you do have you do have your 976 00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: two cats. 977 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 5: Are you really get out and be like that? 978 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 3: Kevin Well, I. 979 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 2: Mean, you've admitted that your cats make your football picks 980 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 2: for you every single week when we do too on, 981 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 2: too off. 982 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 4: Well, they're doing a good job for the most part. 983 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 4: I'm the real problem with the picks. So we'll get 984 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 4: into more of that later. Kevin's been kicking my ass there, 985 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 4: but he's kicking most people's asses in this from what 986 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 4: I've seen, I'm looking at Joel klass picks he's under 987 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 4: five hundred. 988 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, right there with me, Joel. I'm coming 989 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 5: for Awley. 990 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 2: Kevin Fager is doing well though blind squirrel finds a 991 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: handful of nuts every now and then. I guess, all right, 992 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: Coming up next the NFL six pack on fn A 993 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: on FSR. 994 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: Do listen sports. 995 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 5: It is fn A on Fox Football Saturday. I'm out 996 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 5: of may. He is, Kevin figures Kevin up. 997 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 4: We got Chris Plank coming on talking about the red 998 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 4: River rivalry, red River rivalry, red River rivalry red River. 999 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 5: By the end of the show, right, it didn't sound 1000 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 5: like that. 1001 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 3: All right? Coming up? 1002 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 5: We all, oh, we'll get to some major League baseball talk. 1003 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 5: But first, what about your tweets? 1004 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 4: No, Kevin, I was going through some of the old 1005 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 4: sound that I put into this machine from a long 1006 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 4: time ago, and I forgot about this one. See if 1007 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 4: you recognized this voice. 1008 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 5: Glowing up right now? 1009 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 2: Can you not recognize the great Fox Sports radio host 1010 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 2: Steve Hartman. 1011 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 5: I think it's still a good asset to you from 1012 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 5: people tweet us glowing up right now. He's at kfig one. 1013 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna follow out him a big Lou, big long 1014 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 5: time FNA listener, Big Lou. Good to hear from you, 1015 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 5: big Lou. I guess he wants us to take some 1016 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 5: calls here if you want to call in, and we 1017 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 5: got the line. The lines are open. 1018 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 4: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. We'll try to 1019 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 4: get to you guys here. But he wants to talk 1020 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 4: about the new two k all stot Cam Scataboo. 1021 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: Who that's eight wids just so we have the eight 1022 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine six six three six nine eight 1023 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine one Fox. 1024 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 4: Yes, call Cam Scataboo when you need touchdowns by a 1025 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 4: white running back. Yeah, that's he's gonna give it to you, dah. 1026 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 4: Like we've known about him at Arizona State. So none 1027 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 4: of this is surprising to me. Why he went in 1028 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 4: the fourth round, I don't know. I don't know what's 1029 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 4: up with that. You know, Hey, some people complain about 1030 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 4: Shador Sanders going that late. I'm gonna complain about Scattle. 1031 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: I mean, a guy that made Texas, who had this 1032 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: great defense last year, looks stupid in that playoff game. 1033 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 5: I don't know. Yeah, you know, I'm I'm emmy for 1034 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 5: him doing backflips. 1035 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 2: Now, we do know he didn't have the measurables, didn't 1036 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: run very fast. He's one of those. He's not a 1037 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: heighthweight speed guy. Toby Gerhardt screwed it up for all 1038 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: of us. I guess so those guys are the ones 1039 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 2: who go earliest in the draft, even if it's more 1040 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: based on potential and not production. So now, Camp scattabul 1041 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 2: I don't know how long of a run he's gonna 1042 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: have in the NFL playing the style that he plays, 1043 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: because we talk about Jackson Dart running like a bulldozer. 1044 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: At least Scataboy's built that way. Oh yeah, but the 1045 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 2: amount of war and Terry's gonna have, he's gonna take 1046 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: those sort of carries and those sort of hits. He 1047 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 2: might not be around for very long. So let's enjoy 1048 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: his NFL career for as long as we can. 1049 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 5: Jason Miller are also enjoying Camp Scattaboy blowing up right now. 1050 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: I do like that. 1051 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 5: The white Rhinos what Jason called them. That's pretty good. 1052 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 5: I can get with that, all right. I like I 1053 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 5: may become a Giants fan just bec because of camp 1054 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 5: Scattaby jump from one bad organization to another that works. 1055 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: Why why not? 1056 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 5: How dare you? What are you saying? I'm a Raiders 1057 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 5: fan the Giants? Why not? 1058 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 2: The sea of misery is welcomes all. Bree is in 1059 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 2: there with us right now. With the Saints. 1060 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 5: Mark might be coming out of it a little bit. 1061 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 2: With the Bears. 1062 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 5: I'm actually kind of optimistic about what they might be doing. 1063 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 3: The Saints one last week. 1064 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys knew, but it's okay, 1065 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 5: we're turning the corner. We're gonna win the super Bowl. 1066 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 5: It's fine. Oh yeah, you guys got the Patriots this week. 1067 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 5: We'll see how that goes. Let's see how this goes. 1068 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 5: Let's get to it. 1069 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: Mark time for the NFL six pack. 1070 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,479 Speaker 2: No, we're just gonna just gloss over that the Saints 1071 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: are gonna win the Super Bowl. Statement because Bree, you 1072 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: don't even believe that we're talking about margareite are during 1073 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 2: the commercial breakout? 1074 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 5: Do you have one in there right now? Is that 1075 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 5: what's going on? 1076 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 4: You got that lebron Hennessy exactly? Someone fell for the ad. 1077 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 4: It worked, all right? 1078 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna start with our NFL six pack 1079 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 2: in our first topic, the hot seat heat check the 1080 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 2: coacher player under the most pressure this weekend, Adam, what 1081 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 2: do you have? 1082 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 5: All right? 1083 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 4: Some may believe the expectations aren't high enough and never 1084 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 4: really have been for this franchise. It's almost like they're 1085 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 4: the mister irrelevant or franchises. Not because they're the worst, 1086 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 4: they just aren't interesting enough with anything they do. Part 1087 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 4: of it is the market, but I think it's mostly 1088 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 4: because when you go off of the give me an 1089 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 4: A or give me an F formula, they're pretty consistently 1090 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 4: giving you a CNUS or a D plus. And while 1091 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 4: they had a chance to make a little bit of 1092 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 4: noise because their quarterback has some talent, he consistently underperforms 1093 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 4: and leaves you wanting a lot more. I'm talking about 1094 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals. Kyler Murray is on 1095 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 4: a seat hotter than a Gila monster's black and pink 1096 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 4: ass warming up on some volcanic rock in Arizona, and 1097 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is anything but cold blooded. The Hail Murray 1098 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 4: to DeAndre Hopkins was. 1099 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 5: Five years ago. 1100 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 2: Unless he's playing the Raiders and he runs around behind 1101 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 2: the offensive line for eighteen straight seconds, and finds a 1102 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 2: way to beat him in overtime. 1103 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 5: It's the Raiders. We don't count stuff like that fair enough. 1104 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 2: The Raiders shuck, that's fair. 1105 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 4: But his biggest moment came half a decade ago. I 1106 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 4: thought maybe he'd erupt after that and turn into one 1107 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 4: of the better young quarterbacks in the league and had 1108 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 4: a really bright future. 1109 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 5: But maybe the lights. 1110 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 4: Are too bright for Kyler Murray and not the ones 1111 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 4: at his desk late at night. Because there have been 1112 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 4: concerns over his lack of film study, to the point 1113 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 4: he even had an independent study clause put in his 1114 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 4: contract where Kyler can't multitask with video games while also 1115 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 4: studying film. No, the Cardinals would prefer he would get 1116 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 4: tunnel vision and stare down the playbook the way he 1117 00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 4: stares down his receivers. 1118 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 5: He's now thirty eight and forty eight as a starter, 1119 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 5: and the Cardinals are two and three this year and 1120 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 5: on their way to finishing last in the NFC West 1121 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 5: for the third time in the last four years. It 1122 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 5: wasn't just de Marcado and his fumbling issue. 1123 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 2: Oh, it was the the comedy of errors and how 1124 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: that game ended last week was incredible for Arizona. It wasn't. 1125 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 5: It wasn't just de Marcado, wasn't Kyle. 1126 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 4: There was the entire team, but de Marcado's premature touchdown 1127 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 4: ejection syndrome. 1128 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 5: We'll call it one week after we already had it happen. 1129 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 2: It's insane. How I does it continue to happen. I 1130 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 2: don't get it. 1131 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 5: It's unbelievable. Man, Like, get exciting, Stop getting so excited. 1132 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 2: Just take one more step into the end zone and 1133 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: do whatever the bleep you want. Just cross the goal 1134 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 2: line first. People, It's not that hard, and if you do, 1135 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 2: you won't have your head. Coach Jonathan Gannon lighting you 1136 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 2: up on the sidelines. I haven't seen again and light 1137 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: someone up like that since Rich Gannon with Tim Kats 1138 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 2: ten years ago, told him lose my number number now. 1139 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 2: He lost it on Mark Trustman some years ago on 1140 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 2: a pretty epic sideline rand. 1141 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 5: I remember, I didn't see Jonathan's face during what I'm 1142 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,760 Speaker 5: sure he would label the unholy roller that went against 1143 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 5: the squad for that touchdown. Later it's a Raider play 1144 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 5: from Raider history. 1145 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 4: I like it, but I'm tired of seeing Kyler Murray 1146 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 4: roll out look like a video game he'd rather be playing. 1147 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 4: But yet they still end up somewhere around twenty points 1148 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 4: tops every week in Arizona. It's just not working. Even 1149 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 4: his former coach in Cliff Kingsbury, who was enamored with 1150 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 4: him before he was even coaching him, Well, you thought 1151 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 4: that would be a great pairing an offensive tandem. 1152 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 5: It wasn't. But now Cliff's a good pairing with Jaden 1153 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 5: McDaniels in Washington. He's the OC there. Maybe both Arizona 1154 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 5: and Kyler Murray need a change of scenery. Perhaps the 1155 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 5: football being snapped and hitting him in the face in 1156 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 5: shotgun like a couple times a year is a sign 1157 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 5: you're just not on the same page. It's not happening 1158 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 5: in Arizona. 1159 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 2: Not being able to see over the offensive line doesn't 1160 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 2: help your calls either. 1161 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 5: That's a Bryce Young issue as well. 1162 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 4: Look, no one expected him to be Tom Brady, but uh, 1163 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is closer to Marsha Brady with how often 1164 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 4: he's getting hit in the face with the football. 1165 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 2: Well, there are high expectations of since he was the 1166 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 2: first overall pick for a team that drafted a quarterback 1167 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 2: in Josh Rosen With I think the seventh overall pick 1168 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 2: the previous year. That's a lot of high expectation right there. 1169 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 5: That's right. So I forgot they had Josh ros Everyone forgot. 1170 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 2: They at least expected you to be some sort of 1171 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl type quarterback for you know, the next decade 1172 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 2: or so, and then hasn't turned into that. 1173 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 3: Now. 1174 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: The problem is the end of the road is not 1175 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 2: on the horizon because he has a fifty seven million 1176 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 2: dollars dead cap hit next season. They are not eating 1177 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 2: fifty seven sixty million dollars to have him not play 1178 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 2: for them next year. 1179 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 5: They won't be eating wins either, like Jamis wins, maybe 1180 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 5: eating a lot more ws if Jamis was there. Do 1181 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 5: you got somebody on the hot seat here? 1182 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 2: I do have somebody on the hot seat and that 1183 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 2: is John Harball. And you kind of brought this up 1184 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago with the Ravens. I know 1185 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 2: the Ravens are banged up and they had so many 1186 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 2: guys injured last week it was incredible on both sides 1187 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: of the They don't have Lamar Jackson again coming up 1188 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 2: this weekend against the Rams. And I'm not saying they 1189 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 2: have to beat the Rams. That might not be realistic 1190 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 2: even though they're at home. But you got to show 1191 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,959 Speaker 2: a little bit of fight. I mean, you laid down 1192 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 2: against a Houston Texans offense that has been atrocious all 1193 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 2: season long, and they ran up and down the field 1194 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 2: on you. I realize you gotta have, dudes, at a 1195 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 2: certain point. It's a talent talent based league. You can 1196 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 2: have all the gumption and all the motivation of the world, 1197 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 2: and if you just aren't good enough, you're gonna get 1198 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 2: run off the field. 1199 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 5: Lewis speeches, I think. 1200 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 2: Baltimore is at least good enough to be able to 1201 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 2: compete on a weekend week out basis. They cannot afford 1202 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 2: to go out and get blown out and run off 1203 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 2: the field again by the Rams this weekend. So John Harbold, 1204 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 2: I don't think it's in the verge of getting fired 1205 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 2: per se unless things completely go off the rails this season. 1206 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 2: But they have to show at least a little bit 1207 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 2: of fight this week. Don't get run off of the field, 1208 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 2: lose by ten, show some fight. 1209 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 5: I'm renofictable. 1210 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 2: I know the bar is very low, but at the 1211 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 2: very least try to show a little bit of fight 1212 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 2: out there against the Rams this weekend and don't get 1213 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 2: embarrassed on your own home field for the second week 1214 00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 2: in a row. 1215 00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:59,439 Speaker 5: I like that. 1216 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 4: Coming up next, You're gonna like this. Chris Plank is 1217 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 4: joining us former sooner. Yeah, some of you who are 1218 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 4: complaining about us being in his time slot. 1219 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 5: First of all, get used to it. 1220 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 4: Second of all, he's our friend and he supports this show, right, 1221 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 4: and he's coming up next to. 1222 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 5: Talk about what Redriver rivalry. The Red River rivalry. Chris 1223 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 5: Plank is next here on FNA. 1224 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 6: On FSR, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 1225 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 6: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 1226 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 6: foxsports Radio dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search 1227 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 6: FSR to listen live. 1228 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 2: We're gonna have a little Q and a FNA COTTONNA 1229 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,760 Speaker 2: that's right in With the iHeartRadio app, you can stream 1230 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: us wherever you happen to be. 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It is FNA on FSR, Fox Football Saturday. 1238 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Figures and Adam also hit us on the Socials 1239 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 2: at kfig one and at follow Adam A coming up 1240 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 2: and about twenty minutes or so we'll continue our FNA 1241 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 2: six pack. But coming up right now, we have the 1242 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 2: Red River rivalry coming up later this afternoon, and we 1243 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 2: have a special guest, one of our Fox Sports family members, 1244 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 2: joining us right now, Adam to talk about. 1245 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: It Alan drinking dude, Thank you, Guddy. 1246 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 5: Well, fifteen years ago, it was me calling our next 1247 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 5: guest on this show to ask for some advice on 1248 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 5: how to get into sports talk radio, to which he replied, quote, 1249 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,399 Speaker 5: I hope you like Edie macaroni and cheese and top 1250 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 5: Ramen every night. But since then he's become the big 1251 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 5: Cheese at Oklahoma and Fox Sports Radio. But now, in 1252 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 5: a full circle moment, we're currently broadcasting our show in 1253 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 5: one of his old time slots, right so, I guess 1254 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 5: he's eating that good Gouda cheese. Now, it's our indirect 1255 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 5: guardian angel who's been unknowingly looking out for us all along. 1256 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 5: It's Chris Plague joining us here on FNA on Fox 1257 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 5: Sports Radio. 1258 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 4: Chris, good looking out. Let's have some fun in your 1259 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 4: old time slot here. 1260 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 9: I appreciate you guys having me on ever since Brief 1261 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 9: fired me. I mean, this thing has been a rocket ship. 1262 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 9: You guys are taking off and I don't deserve the 1263 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 9: kind words, but I'm grateful for them. And yeah, I 1264 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 9: mean listen, I had to travel. I'm here and I'm 1265 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 9: coming to you live from the Omni Hotel, which is 1266 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 9: the epicenter of Sooner Nation. 1267 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 3: Now the team's not staying here. 1268 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 9: This is where the OU Alumni Association is, and I 1269 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 9: apologize that there's parties going on all around us right 1270 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 9: now as we get set for o U Texas a 1271 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 9: little bit, I guess you can say now later on 1272 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,720 Speaker 9: in essential and Eastern time zone, later on this morning, 1273 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 9: later on this afternoon, whatever it might be, depending on 1274 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 9: your time zone. But I actually had to travel with 1275 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 9: two ham sandwiches, so it's not too much party time yet. 1276 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,760 Speaker 3: But I'm fired up for this game tomorrow. 1277 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 2: I know how it goes, Chris. So as you're out there, 1278 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 2: you're in the epicenter. Like you mentioned, people talk about 1279 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 2: Robbery's Ohio State and Michigan and Alabama, Auburn the unique 1280 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 2: part of this rivalry is it's played early in the season. 1281 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 2: Just talk a little bit about the rivalry between Oklahoma 1282 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,760 Speaker 2: and Texas and what the atmosphere is like that out 1283 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,879 Speaker 2: every year at the Cotton Bowl. 1284 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, second Saturday in October is where it has historically 1285 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 9: been during both teams times in the time in the 1286 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 9: Big Twelve, and even I want to say last year, 1287 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 9: it's maybe even been that first weekend in October. And 1288 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 9: you know, Kfig, you add to the uniqueness of this 1289 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 9: whenever you're playing in the Cotton Bowl and it's fifty 1290 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,280 Speaker 9: percent Crimson, and it's fifty percent that hideous burnt orange, 1291 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 9: and it's always hot as hell, so I'm hydrating and 1292 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,720 Speaker 9: it's just it's in the middle of a party. 1293 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 3: I mean, it really truly is. 1294 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 9: And you know, there's people that are listening right now 1295 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 9: that have been here, you know, and they're like absolutely 1296 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 9: because it's right in the middle of the state fair. 1297 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 9: And it's not like a small state fair where there's 1298 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 9: a ferris wheel and a couple of a I don't know, 1299 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,240 Speaker 9: the zippo or whatever there is. I mean, it's a party. 1300 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 9: There is the largest ride you can imagine. It's funny 1301 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 9: whenever I walk in we go on this main game, 1302 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 9: they never know what I'm wearing ou gear. I've got 1303 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 9: my pass and everything and my producer and I always 1304 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 9: kind of get there super early. 1305 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 3: In the play by play voice Toby. 1306 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 9: Rowland, no one ever really knows where you're supposed to 1307 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 9: be or you're supposed to go. I usually have to 1308 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 9: tell secure. I'm like, no, we go over here. Yeah, 1309 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,280 Speaker 9: it's fine, But once you walk in, it's the craziest 1310 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 9: thing ever because you got big techs, which is this 1311 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 9: just massive Texan that's standing up there with the cowboy 1312 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 9: hats like the Statue of Liberty, and then right below 1313 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 9: them there is literally Ford. Inside the state fair has 1314 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 9: an exhibit where people are just driving cars around a track, 1315 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 9: not like go carts, like full sized cars, so they 1316 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 9: get to like take a test drive. 1317 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,439 Speaker 3: Might be Chevy, but it's a different world. 1318 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 9: It's all about corny dogs and funnel cakes and turkey 1319 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 9: legs and wax cup beers. And then for about three 1320 00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 9: hours everyone comes together inside an antiquated dare I even say, 1321 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 9: you know, barely standing cotton bowl, which has been renovated 1322 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 9: and upgraded for one of I think. 1323 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 3: Three games that are played here. 1324 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 9: I think it's only one of three football games that 1325 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 9: are still played at the stadium. And it's as breathtaking 1326 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 9: and his jaw dropping of just a scene, the esthetics 1327 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 9: of it or something that's just pretty amazing k Fig. 1328 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 9: And then at some point we kick off the game 1329 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 9: and we find out who's the better team. But you know, 1330 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 9: I'm in the it's a forty eight hour maybe seventy 1331 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 9: two hour party for some people, depending on what their 1332 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 9: pregame festivities are like. And it's held the test of time, 1333 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 9: and I hope it never moves out of the State 1334 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 9: Fair or out of the Cotton bol Chris. 1335 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 4: Before we get down to the nuts and bowls of 1336 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 4: this particular matchup, and sticking with the big picture here, 1337 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 4: how do you see this rivalry evolving? Is it just 1338 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 4: more amplified now in the SEC? Because to me, this 1339 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 4: was like some Dodgers Giants thing where they hate each 1340 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,360 Speaker 4: other so much they follow each other to the West Coast. 1341 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 5: These two teams follow each other to the SEC. Just 1342 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 5: what does it mean for the rivalry in that respect? 1343 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's funny because you have you add to that 1344 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 9: where it's you know, the Texas side of it is like, 1345 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 9: well Oklahoma followed Texas. Uh, then that may then Oklahoma 1346 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 9: state fans want to get all mad and say Oklahoma 1347 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 9: chose Texas over us, when you know, in reality, I mean, 1348 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,760 Speaker 9: the facts are that, you know, Oklahoma kind of ignited 1349 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 9: the discussions to the SEC. 1350 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 3: But that's just part of this rivalry. 1351 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 9: I mean, dude, you want to get an Ou fan triggered, 1352 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 9: call it the Texas Oklahoma game. You want to get 1353 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 9: a Texas fan triggered, call it the Oklahoma Texas game. 1354 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 9: I mean, it's just that's I was talking to our 1355 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 9: buddy Fozzie Whittaker the other day, who does a great 1356 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 9: job on ESPN and the former Panthers running back is 1357 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 9: now on the SEC network, and I was like, hey, 1358 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,399 Speaker 9: what's your feeling on the Ou Texas game? 1359 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 3: He goes, well, first, I think the Texas OU game. 1360 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 9: I mean, that's just how petty this is. And you 1361 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 9: mentioned kind of having this stage. I think a lot 1362 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 9: of people in the SEC, you know, I guess I 1363 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 9: didn't really realize. 1364 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,760 Speaker 3: This until I was in this league. 1365 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 9: It's not an arrogance, it's not a cockiness, but just 1366 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 9: they don't really have a care for anything outside of 1367 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 9: their conference. You know, it's maybe they'll watch Ohio State Michigan. 1368 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 9: Maybe they'll they'll this weekend they'll be in on Oregon 1369 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 9: and their matchup with Indiana. But for the most part, 1370 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 9: they are very pigeon holed on the SEC and nothing 1371 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 9: outside of the SEC is better than what's in the SEC. 1372 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 9: I mean, we went to our first SEC media day 1373 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 9: last year and that I mean you had guys who 1374 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 9: are like, well, the Mississippi Mississippi State Egg Bowl is 1375 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 9: a bigger deal than OU Texas, And then they came 1376 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 9: right and they covered it, and they're like, Okay, we're wrong. 1377 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 9: You know, it's just that it's it's exposing it to 1378 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 9: a whole new world and you know, I don't know, 1379 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 9: maybe dare I even say, a larger audience, And it's just, 1380 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 9: you know, it's good to see this game getting the 1381 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,439 Speaker 9: attention it deserved, not I mean when you mentioned getting 1382 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 9: into the nuts and bolts of it, which we will. 1383 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 9: Texas has been a bit of a disappointment so far, 1384 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 9: but you know, all it takes is winning this game 1385 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 9: and it can change the tune for either one of 1386 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 9: these teams as far as the season is going. So yeah, 1387 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 9: it's it's really cool to see how now you got 1388 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 9: SEC people that without Florida and Georgia has always been 1389 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 9: bigger or miss to be missed or whatever, you know, Alabama, Tennessee, 1390 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 9: whatever it might be. Sure they probably still feel like 1391 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 9: that's the bigger rivalry, but they now appreciate the uniqueness 1392 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 9: and the special nature of these two bordering states that 1393 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 9: just really really hate each other. Whenever it comes to 1394 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 9: this Saturday in October. 1395 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 2: Chris Playing joining us here on F and A on FSR. 1396 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 2: Of course you're here Chris here on Fox Sports Radio. 1397 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 2: More tolerating than co hosting Arnie Spaniel every Sunday night. 1398 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 5: That's a really talk about it. 1399 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 2: Talk about a heavy lift, my god the other day. 1400 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 2: O K. 1401 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 3: Fake. I'll just tell you this real quick. 1402 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 5: That's the real rivalry right there. 1403 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 9: He moved and I do a local show every day 1404 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 9: from six to nine a Central time, and he has 1405 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 9: no care for anything anyone else is doing. 1406 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 3: And I mean he knows this. 1407 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 9: I'm on from six and I got like twelve text 1408 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 9: messages because something went wrong with his computer. 1409 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,959 Speaker 3: Like I'm his personal it guy. 1410 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 9: Dude, I'm on the I'll help you at nine am, 1411 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 9: all right, Yeah, Yeah, he's the best. So it'll be 1412 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 9: fun to see how the Dolphins have him on the 1413 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 9: ledge again this Sunday night. 1414 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 2: Guddon for paying to be a Dolphins fan, for sure, 1415 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 2: for Arnie's fan. You're among other things, Arizona basketball is 1416 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 2: disappointed for years. We can go on and on about that. 1417 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 2: But Chris also silent reporter for the Oklahoma Sooners. So 1418 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 2: you talked about the struggles of the University of Texas 1419 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 2: recently this year, and let's start with arch Manning. I 1420 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 2: know Oklahoma has its own set of quarterback issues. Sure, 1421 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 2: when it comes to John Matier, we'll talk about him 1422 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 2: in a second. But just from the outside looking in, 1423 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 2: what was your take on Arch Manning. A lot of 1424 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 2: people were not on this bandwagon coming in to the season. 1425 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 2: They said, Ah, this guy, if his last name wasn't Manning, 1426 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 2: he'd be more of a three star than a five star. 1427 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 2: He struggled against good competition in high school. Just from 1428 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 2: your perspective, being as close to the Oklahoma Texas situation 1429 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 2: as you have been, what were your expectations for Arch 1430 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 2: Manning and what do you think of what you've seen 1431 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 2: of him so far this season? 1432 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1433 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 9: I was a little bit different in that. Well, now 1434 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 9: everybody was like, got it think he was that good? 1435 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,439 Speaker 3: Right? I can't fig that's how it happened. That's whenever 1436 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 3: things go south. 1437 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 9: But I mean, Texas was the preseason number one team 1438 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 9: and they lost the highest rated recruit in the history 1439 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 9: of lack of recruiting. I mean Quinn Youwers, even though 1440 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 9: he's a seventh round pick and really hasn't done much 1441 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 9: yet in the NFL, Like he was considered whenever he 1442 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 9: went to Ohio State one of the greatest recruits. And 1443 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 9: he was the starting quarterback for three years at Texas 1444 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 9: and he was really good. When he graduated and moved 1445 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 9: he still had another year of eligibility when he moved on. 1446 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 9: I was a big believer that, hey, you know, it's 1447 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 9: it's gonna be tough and you because Texas lost his playmakers, 1448 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 9: they lost their top running back, and oh, by the way, 1449 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 9: they lost four of their five starters on an offensive 1450 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 9: line that had been among the best in college football. 1451 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,959 Speaker 9: But none of that mattered to a lot of people 1452 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 9: because they've got Arch Manning, who, by the way, has 1453 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 9: been in the system now for three years and in 1454 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 9: those previous two seasons had started what two games because 1455 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,959 Speaker 9: of injury, So it's in a lot of ways, it's 1456 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 9: like having a fresh out there, and everyone just wanted 1457 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 9: to look past that, and they didn't want to accept 1458 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 9: that this was a team that had bigger issues and 1459 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 9: they were preseason number one when they really didn't deserve it. 1460 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 3: But I'd Kavik, I'm different. 1461 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 2: You know. 1462 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people like to pile on Arch, 1463 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 3: and that's fine. 1464 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 9: The Athletic had a disgustingly ridiculous article this week about 1465 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 9: how he's college football's first flop. 1466 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 2: I did see that. There's been dozens. That's ridiculous. 1467 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 9: Listen, Will, I don't know this first time you watched 1468 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 9: college football, but holy smokes, we've had flops out the 1469 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 9: wazoo over the last fifty years. But here's where all 1470 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 9: defend Arch and dan Orlowski. Through this out this week, 1471 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 9: the offensive line has allowed the highest pressure rate in 1472 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 9: the SEC. Mike Cowort on the Sooner Radio Network. Former 1473 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 9: NFL guy Gay Biker called their left guard situation basically tragic. 1474 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 9: Their running backs are thirteenth in a sixteen team SEC 1475 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 9: in average arts per run at four point three, and 1476 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 9: their defense hasn't recorded a sack against their two Power 1477 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 9: four opponents. So it's not just Arch. I mean, this 1478 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 9: team has problems all the way around. I watched the 1479 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 9: Florida game now twice, and if it wasn't for Arch, 1480 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 9: they might have been sacked twenty times. He did a 1481 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 9: good job of evading pressure. So he hasn't been as 1482 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 9: good as people thought he was going to be because 1483 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,479 Speaker 9: people put ridiculous expectations on him. When Paul Finbaum comes 1484 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 9: out and says he's the greatest quarterback prospect, the greatest 1485 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 9: quarterback since Tim Tebow, it's like, Buddy, you've covered the 1486 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 9: SEC for a long time. You had Joe Burrow that 1487 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 9: was in this league in twenty nineteen, and that's unfair. 1488 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 3: So I thought it was unfair. I think he's gonna 1489 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 3: be a good quarterback. I think he's gonna be really 1490 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 3: good next here. 1491 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 9: But Texas's problems are more than just Arch's erraticness. They've 1492 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 9: got issues on the offensive line, and that's hard to 1493 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 9: fix in the middle of a season. 1494 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 4: Especially because I can't remember the last time Oklahoma's defense 1495 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 4: look this good. Like what I know, Hey, I'm a 1496 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 4: casual in disrespect Chris, but they look incredible on the 1497 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 4: defensive line. 1498 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 5: Just what have you seen that changes? 1499 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 4: I guess the temperature of how this game could go 1500 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 4: because of how good their defense is. 1501 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 9: Well, Adam, a couple of things. Number one, just as 1502 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 9: you mean, I like the admission that you're a casual. 1503 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 9: So that means all my notes I have here for 1504 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 9: my pregame show I could throw to you. 1505 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 2: Guys, Here we go. 1506 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 9: Oklahoma rinks number one in six defensive categories college football, 1507 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 9: including total defense, yards per play, tackles for loss in 1508 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 9: a game, in sacks. Forty eight percent of the opponents 1509 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 9: two hundred and seventy six plays this year have resulted 1510 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 9: in zero or negative yards. And as we sit here 1511 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 9: on the precipice of Ou and Texas, Oklahoma has forced 1512 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 9: more punts than they have allowed total points this season. 1513 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 9: So you know, it's funny. Britton Vinnables is a defensive mind. 1514 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 9: You know, he's he's changed the mindset here. This was 1515 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 9: a program that you could count on fifty points a 1516 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 9: game and their defense might give up forty eight or 1517 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 9: forty nine our fifty and you might need the team 1518 01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 9: to throw it to you. Now this is a defense 1519 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 9: that is deep and nasty. You know, there's a young 1520 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 9: man who is really starting to emerge. 1521 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 3: His name's David Stone. 1522 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 9: He wears zero, Adam, watch him tomorrow, He's I guess 1523 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,919 Speaker 9: later today. He's special. And it's funny because last week, 1524 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 9: what's his first start? You know, he's not even a 1525 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 9: starter for their defense. He up Jayden Jackson, who was 1526 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 9: a freshman All American last year. We're just talking about 1527 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 9: defensive tackles. Dominic Williams, who was a transfer for TCU, 1528 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 9: who's really starting to emerge. I mean, they've got they're 1529 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 9: four to five deep at defensive tackle. And then you 1530 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 9: add in the guy who might be the highest draft 1531 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 9: pick on this defense in our Mason Thomas thirty two, 1532 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 9: the edge rusher that is just an absolute beast getting 1533 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 9: after the quarterback. So it really starts with the defensive 1534 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 9: line because it's wild over the last few years. If 1535 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 9: you look at stats and most teams, you're leading tacklers 1536 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 9: are your linebackers, maybe even your safety. For Oklahoma, linebackers 1537 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 9: and safeties haven't even had a chance to make a 1538 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 9: play yet this year because the intive line has been 1539 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 9: eating it up. 1540 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 3: Here's my concern, though, Adam. 1541 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 9: They have shown the ability to lose guys in coverage 1542 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 9: and they're very young at corner for the most part. 1543 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,640 Speaker 9: They've got an experienced guy in Gentry Williams at one corner, 1544 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 9: but he's battled injuries. Courtland Gillery is the name to 1545 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 9: keep an eye on. He where is number four? Cam 1546 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 9: coleman ate his lunch Whenever Oklahoma played Auburn, and Oklahoma's 1547 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 9: gotten better I think at helping him out. They've got 1548 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 9: a little Eli Bowen a corner, came back to provide 1549 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 9: depth depth. Kendall Dolby is back to provide depth at corner. 1550 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 9: But you know all those numbers I just laid out, 1551 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 9: You know they Texas lives. 1552 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 3: And dies by the explosive big. 1553 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 9: Play, and Oklahoma has shown, at least against Auburn a 1554 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 9: little vulnerability to it. Even against Michigan they gave up 1555 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 9: the you know, eighty plus yard run. So to me, 1556 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 9: that's the one area that when I'm heading into the 1557 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 9: game later today, I'm a little bit worried about. And 1558 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 9: that is Oklahoma being able to make sure that they 1559 01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 9: can pressure Arch get them off the spot. 1560 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 3: I have no doubt about that. 1561 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 9: But if he gets some time, could there be a 1562 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 9: big play out there in the passing game that they 1563 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 9: can hit on, and unfortunately, Oklahoma has shown little bit 1564 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 9: of vulnerability to that at times this season. 1565 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 5: I don't know this sounds so fierce. Maybe arch man 1566 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 5: connection to his uncles will just be that he's gonna retire. 1567 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 5: Also like he just walk away. I'm good, I'm out, 1568 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 5: have fun. 1569 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 2: Chris Less addressed the elephant in the room when it 1570 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 2: comes to the quarterback position at Oklahoma. With Jah matier upgrade, 1571 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 2: it's a probable just what are we fourteen days removed 1572 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 2: from that hand surgery at this point in time. 1573 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let me ask you this question, Chris. 1574 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,439 Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna say be honest with me because 1575 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 2: I know you're going to be if they were playing 1576 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 2: Texas Southern instead of Texas. Is Jo Matier playing in 1577 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 2: this game? Is he playing because he's ready or is 1578 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 2: he playing because of the weight of his game? 1579 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,600 Speaker 9: I think he's playing because he came to Oklahoma to 1580 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 9: play in this game. 1581 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I. 1582 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 9: But I'll say I'll add this context to it. I 1583 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 9: think Oklahoma is very aware as a team, as a program, 1584 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 9: as a coaching staff that they've got a big game 1585 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 9: next week at South Carolina. 1586 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 3: Ole Miss is coming to town the following week. Then 1587 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 3: they go. 1588 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 9: I think I'm doing this off the top of my head, 1589 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 9: and I think we go to Tennessee. We listen to me, 1590 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 9: we But I just I think it's a great question 1591 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 9: because if it was, say, kn't State this week, then 1592 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 9: he's probably not playing because they would know they'd win 1593 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 9: the game. But everything that we've heard, which isn't much, 1594 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 9: is that he really hasn't been all that limited. 1595 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 3: Here's my concern. I think he's gonna play. I think 1596 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 3: he's gonna start. 1597 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 9: What happens the first time he takes a shot on 1598 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 9: that hand right because Texas. 1599 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 3: Knows he's he's hurt. 1600 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 9: Also, Oklahoma's offense has a lot of QB run whenever 1601 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 9: he's in the game. Do they shift that up? Do 1602 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 9: you see a Michael Hawkins when they're running the ball? 1603 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 3: You know? 1604 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 9: And maybe they alternate quarterbacks. I don't know, but they 1605 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 9: have It's a great balance. Oklahoma needs to beat Texas, 1606 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 9: not just for playoff purposes and the season, but Ventnables 1607 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 9: has one and two against Texas and to the losses 1608 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 9: or the worst against Texas in program history, and you 1609 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 9: know he wants to win it more than anything else. 1610 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 3: But Oklahoma looks. 1611 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 9: Like the kind of team that has a defense that 1612 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,720 Speaker 9: might have something to say about titles whenever we get 1613 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 9: to the playoffs. So it is a wild and delicate balance. 1614 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 9: It's been as secretive and as weird around here kfig 1615 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,639 Speaker 9: as I can remember Oklahoma took practices indoors this week. 1616 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,640 Speaker 3: I never, well, now they do have AC. 1617 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 9: In their indoor now, and we haven't had AC in 1618 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 9: the indoor around here ever, and they just got it 1619 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,559 Speaker 9: put in this year, so that makes a little bit 1620 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 9: of a difference. 1621 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 3: But it's a coach. 1622 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 9: Viittables shut down any conversations or questioned about him, So listen. 1623 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 9: I know I'm being long winded here. This has been 1624 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 9: the one thing I've covered NonStop for the better part 1625 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 9: of the last two weeks. But I said, as soon 1626 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 9: as I started reading up on all the thumb injuries 1627 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 9: Curtis Rourke and Indiana last year, Jared Goff a couple 1628 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,640 Speaker 9: of years ago in the playoffs. 1629 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 3: Every thom is different, every injury is different. 1630 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 9: But as soon as I saw those timelines, I immediately thought, 1631 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 9: he's playing to ou Texas. He's absolutely gonna play, so well, 1632 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 9: we'll see how much he plays. But it has been 1633 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 9: a wild storyline to kind of interrupt that usual who's 1634 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 9: better on the offensive line, who's better on the defensive line, 1635 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 9: Who's run game? Run game is so huge in this game. 1636 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 9: Who wins the rushing battle usually wins oh U Texas. 1637 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 9: But all week long it's been is he gonna play? 1638 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 9: Is John Matier gonna play? And there's nowhere that you 1639 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,799 Speaker 9: could go in Norman or across the state of Oklahoma 1640 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 9: without someone asking you about his availability. 1641 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 3: And Oklahoma's done a really good job keeping it close 1642 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 3: to the vest. 1643 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 4: I hear, like if you're at a Chipotle, you just 1644 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 4: put your ear up to the guacamole and it tells 1645 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,839 Speaker 4: you whether or not he's playing. 1646 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 9: The tortilla press or store is one of my all 1647 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 9: time favorites. I just I love that you're at your ear. 1648 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 3: That shows you. 1649 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,559 Speaker 9: Man, you're at a freaking Chipotle and you're just trying 1650 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 9: to get your your double protein bowl right, maybe get 1651 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 9: the case so maybe get the extra guac, And all 1652 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 9: of a sudden, the tortilla Presser's like, hey, John Mattier, 1653 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 9: you playing. It's hilarious. And that's what it's been. Like, 1654 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 9: We've got they move practice inside One of the funny 1655 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,280 Speaker 9: things about it is where the school of journalism is at, 1656 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 9: you can see the practice field like you can see 1657 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 9: the practice field from their classes. 1658 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 3: And I think that had a lot to do with 1659 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 3: O you moving things indoors this week. 1660 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 4: All right, Chris, last one for you here is I'm 1661 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 4: scrolling through your Twitter account and I may have seen 1662 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 4: something that's unrelated to Oklahoma. 1663 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 5: It's hard to find on there, but I did. You're 1664 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 5: also a Raiders fan, so it's the ying and the yang. 1665 01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 5: Oklahoma's thriving, the Raiders are suffering right now. And you 1666 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 5: said this quote. As a lifelong diehard Raiders fan, I've 1667 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 5: seen some bad, awful, terrible, and embarrassing performances. This talking 1668 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 5: about last weekend's performance performance honestly might take the cake 1669 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 5: is the most pathetic performance I've seen, not just by 1670 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 5: the Raiders but by any NFL team ever, Like who ever? 1671 01:10:59,080 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 5: Is that hyperbole? 1672 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe. 1673 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 4: You're in the one percent of seeing bad performances of 1674 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 4: all time because you're a Raiders fan, so you would 1675 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 4: know about them. But uh, it's only up from here, right, 1676 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:12,040 Speaker 4: You got the Titans coming up. 1677 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 9: Well, here's what's here's here's why I should never be 1678 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,759 Speaker 9: allowed on any any medium to talk about the Raiders 1679 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 9: because they've given up forty or more points in two 1680 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:27,640 Speaker 9: of their last four games. They were hapless against the Chargers. 1681 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 9: Should have beat the Bears. But here I am sitting 1682 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 9: here on the Friday night into Saturday morning before I 1683 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,720 Speaker 9: shut down with the Titans, and I'm like, you know what, 1684 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 9: they beat the Titans, then the Chiefs haven't looked all 1685 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 9: that good. Maybe Miss Crosby can frustrated, you know, then 1686 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 9: all of a sudden, you're You're three and four is 1687 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 9: just what I thought. 1688 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 3: I was out, you know. 1689 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 9: And that's the thing. And it's funny because I was. 1690 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,679 Speaker 9: I was trying to watch highlights. What sucks even more 1691 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 9: about the Colts game is that they forced a three 1692 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 9: and out on the first drive. Adam three shut him? 1693 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 9: Oh false, you know what. It's just so enraging right now. 1694 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 9: And the fact that Daniel Jones they were trying to 1695 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 9: get him last year and I was so mad about it, 1696 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:13,000 Speaker 9: and now after what he did to them, it's it's 1697 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 9: it's it's it's down. 1698 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 3: And then this week you got your Mane Pratt getting cut. 1699 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,719 Speaker 9: That's the second big defensive player in a month after 1700 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 9: Christian Wilkins, who, by the way, oddly enough, when Christian 1701 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 9: Wilkins got cut, you know where he ended up, right, 1702 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 9: he was here and he was in Norman. 1703 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 3: He was like, gott a, I went to us. 1704 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 9: Yeah, I went to like a Booster event and I'm 1705 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 9: just kind of walking around and there's Christian Wilkins and 1706 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:35,879 Speaker 9: I'm like, is that Christian Wilkins? 1707 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:37,599 Speaker 3: And I wanted to walk up to and go, dude, 1708 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 3: what's going on? 1709 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 1: Man? 1710 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 3: With what's why are you not there? It's like twenty 1711 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 3: thirty forty million dollars. 1712 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 9: But Adam, it's a very k fig you know, trust me, 1713 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 9: it's a very frustrating time right now. 1714 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 5: Well that's why I brought it up. I wanted to 1715 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 5: make sure Kevin say. 1716 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 3: I don't get too hot. 1717 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,479 Speaker 2: Chris and I would have therapy sessions together on fox 1718 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 2: Worth Radio over the Raiders over the last couple of years. 1719 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 2: Trust me, we might need another way. They're telling you. 1720 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,719 Speaker 2: The Great Chris Blank carries the show with Arnie Spaniel 1721 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 2: on Siteday nights here on Fox Bolls eight pm to 1722 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,040 Speaker 2: eleven pm Pacific time. Of course, Sidelines for the Oklahoma 1723 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 2: Sooners Radio Network as they get set for their big 1724 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 2: rivalry matchup against Texas coming up later today. Chris, this 1725 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 2: was fun, man, Thanks so much. We appreciate it. 1726 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 3: Hey, anytime, man, anytime. 1727 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 5: I like how You're like, it's Chris Plank and Arnie Spaniard, 1728 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:22,720 Speaker 5: just like ex Oklahoma versus tax I'm not getting that 1729 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 5: one twisted. That's for damn sure. 1730 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 2: Make sure we never forget it is Chris Plank and 1731 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 2: Arnie span You're not the other way around. 1732 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,599 Speaker 4: Until we get Arnie on. Then it's Arnie Spaniard and 1733 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 4: Chris playing. Absolutely, but that was fun having him on. 1734 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 4: Of course he was in this time slot for a while. 1735 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 4: It's an honor to get to carry on the tradition, 1736 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 4: the legacy that he built here on Friday nights since 1737 01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 4: Saturday mornings. 1738 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 5: No doubt, no doubt whatsoever. This is fn A on FSR. 1739 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 2: Kevin Figures and Adam Alslin will step aside for a 1740 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 2: quick minute. On the other side, we will get back 1741 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 2: into the NFL six pack again. This is Fox Football 1742 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 2: Saturday with Kevin Figures and Adam Ausselin on Fox Sports 1743 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 2: Radio FNA Cotton for the best pregame show every weekend. 1744 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to Tune into Fox Sports Radios count Down 1745 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 2: to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning. 1746 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 2: We will count you down to all of the biggest 1747 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 2: games for three hours right up until kickoff, for all 1748 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 2: of the best plays and up to the second injury news. 1749 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,719 Speaker 2: Tune in to count Down to Kickoff, presented by bet 1750 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,120 Speaker 2: MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning right here on Fox 1751 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Sports Radio and the iHeart App. It is Kevin Figures 1752 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 2: and Adam Alslin here FNA on FSR. 1753 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 5: Adam still got five more categories left in our NFL 1754 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,320 Speaker 5: six pack. Mark what's next here? 1755 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 6: Trap game tap? 1756 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 5: All right, Kevin, you want to get things started here 1757 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 5: with your trap game? 1758 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 2: Yes, my trap game tap. Let's see if I can 1759 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,720 Speaker 2: pull it up here a little bit. How about you 1760 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 2: go go there first? There, Adam, I'm got a little issue, 1761 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 2: a computer issue here. 1762 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 4: You know where I'm going My trap game. Trap is 1763 01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 4: from my panthers, not necessarily these ones, but perhaps the 1764 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 4: panthers of yesteryear, who always seemed to find a way 1765 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 4: to beat Dallas. Now, you may say, Adam, the Cowboys 1766 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,479 Speaker 4: have won three in a row against Carolina. They're twelve 1767 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 4: and five, overall head to head against them, true, but 1768 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,719 Speaker 4: my Panthers have a couple of epic wins against them 1769 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 4: when it mattered, most like in the divisional round back 1770 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety seven when the Cowboys were trying to 1771 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 4: repeat his Super Bowl champions but they had to go 1772 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 4: to Ericson Stadium and Troy Aikman looked like he wanted 1773 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,799 Speaker 4: a phone a friend as he threw three picks against 1774 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 4: my favorite Panthers defense as the late great Sam Mills 1775 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 4: sealed the game with an interception, given my Panthers their 1776 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,839 Speaker 4: first ever playoff win. And guess what their second playoff 1777 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,639 Speaker 4: win also came against Dallas seven years later. 1778 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 2: That was I believe that might have been Bill Parcells's Cowboys, right, 1779 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,599 Speaker 2: you want Carter at the quarterback position? 1780 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 5: You knew it? 1781 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 2: Quarter Is that also the same year that the Carolina 1782 01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 2: Panthers went. 1783 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 5: To the Super Bowl, Yes, that would be correct. 1784 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 2: They beat the Cowboys in the Wildcart round, They beat 1785 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 2: the Saint Louis Rams in overtime on a walk off 1786 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,559 Speaker 2: touchdown catch by your guy Steve Smith, and then they 1787 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 2: went into Philadelphia and put a whoopin on the Eagles. 1788 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 5: Ooh, you're hot with it? 1789 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,519 Speaker 2: Ricky Manning junior, former UCLA great, I think had three 1790 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 2: interceptions in that game. 1791 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,640 Speaker 5: Adam, Now, now. 1792 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,440 Speaker 4: Don't forget the part where they got screwed by spygate 1793 01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,759 Speaker 4: and the Patriots, we've both been screwed. 1794 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 5: Did they get screwed by spy Gator? 1795 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 2: Did John Casey kick the ball out of bounds and 1796 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,280 Speaker 2: give the Patriots a short field so they can kick 1797 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:33,800 Speaker 2: a game winning field goal in the final second? 1798 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:34,520 Speaker 5: Was spargate? 1799 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 4: All right? 1800 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 5: Say it was spargate? 1801 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,639 Speaker 2: Like half of the Panthers defensive line on steroids too, 1802 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:40,679 Speaker 2: and the punter. 1803 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,479 Speaker 5: You know what, We don't need to reminisce about all stuff. 1804 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 5: Just know this. 1805 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,919 Speaker 4: Technically, yes, the Cowboys are twelve and five against the Panthers, 1806 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 4: but we own them total ownership in the playoffs. So 1807 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if these Panthers, as bad 1808 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 4: as they have looked at times, find a way to 1809 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 4: win another game at home. They're two to zero at 1810 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 4: Bank of America Stadium this year. That's saying you can 1811 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,800 Speaker 4: bank on this win. But I am saying it could 1812 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 4: be a tap game trap. Can't wait to see which 1813 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,880 Speaker 4: owner either gives the finger to the fans or throws 1814 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 4: a drink on them in this game. What do you 1815 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:15,839 Speaker 4: got here, guys. 1816 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 2: Good pool. I'm gonna go with the Colts at home 1817 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 2: against the Cardinals. I know you weren't the biggest fan 1818 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,559 Speaker 2: of the Cardinals. You talked about him a little bit 1819 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,559 Speaker 2: earlier in this hour, But and Daniel Jones has played 1820 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,680 Speaker 2: extremely well, as have the Colts as a whole. But 1821 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 2: all that being said, I do think they could be 1822 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 2: on a potential upset alert. Now, if you watch the 1823 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 2: Cardinals at all this season, as bad as they are, 1824 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,719 Speaker 2: they've been in pretty much every game. It's the Seattle 1825 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 2: game on that Thursday night, the San Francisco game. Both 1826 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 2: losses happened in walk off fashion with a walkoff field goal. 1827 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,559 Speaker 5: I think it is the first time in NFL history 1828 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 5: a team has lost three straight games off walkoff field 1829 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 5: goals against them. 1830 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so look, we do know in the NFL, 1831 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,920 Speaker 2: like the line between a bad team and a great team, 1832 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,880 Speaker 2: it's a large chasm. But the line between a bad 1833 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 2: team and an average team, we're talking about the difference 1834 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 2: of a couple of plays during a season. I mean, 1835 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 2: four wins and eight wins is really not that big 1836 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 2: of a difference. A lot of times if the Cardinals 1837 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 2: just have a couple of things break their way, if 1838 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,599 Speaker 2: they don't just Keystone Cop their way to a loss 1839 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 2: last week. And if you don't know who the Keystone 1840 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 2: Cops are, look it up, people. It's before my time too, 1841 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,440 Speaker 2: all right, no history anyway. 1842 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 4: Back in my time, drinking wise, I knew who the 1843 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 4: Keystone Cops were. 1844 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 5: They had the big mouth can on Keystone. 1845 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 2: So I think the Cardinals have the potential to catch 1846 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 2: the Colts with their guard down, especially if Kyler Murray 1847 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,800 Speaker 2: doesn't end up playing this Weekendjacoby Pressett far from a 1848 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 2: world beater, obviously, but he's a fairly capable backup and 1849 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,000 Speaker 2: obviously much taller at the very least, can stand tall 1850 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,680 Speaker 2: in that pocket and make plays down the field that 1851 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,760 Speaker 2: sometimes Kyler can't. So I know the margin of the 1852 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 2: victory in the NFL is fairly slim at times, and 1853 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,160 Speaker 2: the gap between a good team and a bad team 1854 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,640 Speaker 2: is fairly wide. Like I mentioned a minute ago, I 1855 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 2: do think the Cardinals are more towards of an average 1856 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,240 Speaker 2: team than a bad team, and I think it's shown 1857 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,559 Speaker 2: itself that way throughout the way the season is played out, 1858 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 2: being competitive with teams like Seattle and San Francisco who 1859 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,679 Speaker 2: are fighting for a playoff spots at this early part. 1860 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,719 Speaker 5: Of the season. So do I think that the Cardinals 1861 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,599 Speaker 5: will beat the Colts. 1862 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 2: Probably not, but I do think it's one to watch 1863 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 2: out for for sure, and it would not surprise me 1864 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 2: in the least bit if the Cardinals found a way 1865 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 2: to upset the Colts and knock them off the top here. 1866 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,599 Speaker 4: Their defense has been very competitive so far. They've been 1867 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 4: underrated in that. 1868 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 2: Area under Jonathan Gannon's tenure, over the three years he's 1869 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,480 Speaker 2: been there, they've been a really good defense. 1870 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 4: And they just had one of the most epic collapses, 1871 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,040 Speaker 4: like a once in a bi centennial type of collapse, 1872 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,960 Speaker 4: like you rarely ever see a team who was about 1873 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 4: to go up what like twenty eight to three, yes 1874 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 4: Tornado to thrumble the ball at the one inch line 1875 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 4: like the game's over. So I do feel for them 1876 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 4: a little bit in that way, and they probably are 1877 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,680 Speaker 4: on the comeback trail now. They at least lit a 1878 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 4: fire underneath them, or Jonathan Gannon certainly lit a fire 1879 01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,799 Speaker 4: under his team in the locker room afterwards. 1880 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,640 Speaker 2: Yah, will you also make your own breaks to a 1881 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,360 Speaker 2: certain degree too, when it comes to that, and that's 1882 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,320 Speaker 2: part book. Bad teams don't know how to finish. That's 1883 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 2: the issues we talked about the margin of victory being 1884 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,599 Speaker 2: very slim. The good teams find a way to actually 1885 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 2: make things happen when it matters most in crunch time, 1886 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,679 Speaker 2: and the bad teams are the ones who aren't able 1887 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 2: to finish. 1888 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 4: Coming up, we got our beer goggles games. Still, we 1889 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 4: got a lot to get to. We still have four 1890 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,559 Speaker 4: more categories. Oh Troy Potential, my favorite category is still 1891 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 4: coming up here. We also have your college football Forecast 1892 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 4: where repreview games coming up in mere hours from now. 1893 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 2: Got a lot to look forward to here coming up, 1894 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 2: a lot to do and not a lot of time 1895 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 2: to do it. One hour remaining on the FN a 1896 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:38,639 Speaker 2: takeover of FSR. 1897 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:39,679 Speaker 5: Stay tuned. 1898 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radios. 1899 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 2: Right the final hour of Fox Football Saturday with me 1900 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 2: Kevin Figures and he Adam also an at K. Fig 1901 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 2: One is where you can find me on X. You 1902 01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,439 Speaker 2: can find Adam on X as well. Coming up this hour, 1903 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,600 Speaker 2: we'll have two on to off. We'll also talk a 1904 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,439 Speaker 2: little bit of college football and get back into the 1905 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,120 Speaker 2: NFL six pack. You know, before we get to the 1906 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 2: NFL six back, just really quickly on baseball, your Steve 1907 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,680 Speaker 2: Desager's update, talking about the Major League Baseball postseason. We 1908 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,880 Speaker 2: had that epic finish in Seattle on Friday night? 1909 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,560 Speaker 5: Are you sleepless in Seattle? 1910 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 3: Do you bit? 1911 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:13,559 Speaker 6: You? 1912 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,599 Speaker 5: Will you remember that game the rest of your life? 1913 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:16,760 Speaker 3: Honestly? I might? 1914 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:17,800 Speaker 5: That's what no. 1915 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 4: I love an extra innings nail bider like that, and 1916 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,759 Speaker 4: we had never seen anything like that in the postseason 1917 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,240 Speaker 4: because it went fifteen innings. 1918 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 5: But the pitching display that was put on incredible, superb. Yeah, 1919 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 5: I mean that game. 1920 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 2: Do you at the the game four of the Dodgers 1921 01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,719 Speaker 2: in Phillies the other night, which is also spectacular pitching. 1922 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,200 Speaker 2: But I want to get your take on this and 1923 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,200 Speaker 2: we'll get back into the six pack because I said 1924 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 2: at the time, this is not, you know, a Monday 1925 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:45,479 Speaker 2: morning quarterbacking, but or second guessing. When they took Trek 1926 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 2: school Ball out after six innings and ninety eight pitches, 1927 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 2: I believe he threw. I said, why are you taking 1928 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,200 Speaker 2: this guy out? Leave him in? 1929 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 5: It's the postseason. This is why you have an ace. 1930 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,680 Speaker 5: His arm falls off at ninety nine pitches. That's how 1931 01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,720 Speaker 5: it works exactly. He's like, yeah, is there like a line? 1932 01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,200 Speaker 2: So once you get to one hundred and one pitches, 1933 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 2: this is the officially the time that you need to 1934 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:04,840 Speaker 2: be taken out of the game. 1935 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 4: Instant, Tommy John. They perform it on the mound. Actually, 1936 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 4: if he throws in his ninety nine, y it is. 1937 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,439 Speaker 2: It just infuriates me to the mf degree that a 1938 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,720 Speaker 2: guy hits the magic number of ninety nine or one 1939 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 2: hundred and all of a sudden we have to take 1940 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 2: him out. 1941 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 5: If a guy is rolling like that, leave him in 1942 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 5: the game. 1943 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,120 Speaker 4: I thought the glass now decision the other night by 1944 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,559 Speaker 4: the Dodgers, which did not come back to haunt them. 1945 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,759 Speaker 5: They won the game anyways, eighty three. 1946 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 2: I think he was at eighty three now. Dave Roberts 1947 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 2: say that a playoff game he's ever had. He said 1948 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 2: he was cramping, Oh real, He said he was cramping 1949 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,840 Speaker 2: up in the fifth inning, and they send him back 1950 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,479 Speaker 2: out there in the sixth inning after he had been 1951 01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 2: cramping up when he battled through that, and they didn't 1952 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 2: want to run him back out there because he said 1953 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 2: he was cramping fair enough, because I did also in 1954 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 2: my mind, I said the exact same thing considering how 1955 01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 2: the bat the Dodgers' bullpen has been. If you have 1956 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 2: a starter that'said eighty three pitches through six innings, why 1957 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 2: the hell would you not leave him in there? 1958 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 5: God send for them. 1959 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but so that's why I just want I wasn't 1960 01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 2: sure about your thoughts on that, but it just frustrates 1961 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 2: me to no end when you finally get to the 1962 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 2: poet season and a guy which is the magic number 1963 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,759 Speaker 2: of ninety or one hundred pitches trek Skouball's last pitch, 1964 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,920 Speaker 2: which was a strikeout swinging, was one hundred and one 1965 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:08,720 Speaker 2: miles an hour, and. 1966 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,240 Speaker 5: They ended up beating him twice in this series, actually, 1967 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 5: which is crazy. I well, he had the lead when 1968 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 5: he went out. I think it was two to one, 1969 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 5: so me so. 1970 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 4: He didn't get hung with the loss. But both the 1971 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,920 Speaker 4: games that he started correct Seattle ended up winning. 1972 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you leave him in there, maybe, look, may 1973 01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,600 Speaker 2: he doesn't go nine probably with that many pitches, but 1974 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,719 Speaker 2: staves off. I think the rally happened that very next inning. 1975 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,880 Speaker 5: Now, they couldn't have anticipated that they were going to 1976 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,680 Speaker 5: go fifteen innings and burn through all the pitchers that 1977 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,759 Speaker 5: they did, but that was honestly one of those games 1978 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 5: where no one deserved to lose. It's true. 1979 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,560 Speaker 4: I felt like, you know, there's no crying in baseball, 1980 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 4: but if you lose that game, like the Tigers are 1981 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,360 Speaker 4: gonna remember that forever, the tears keep flowing. 1982 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,679 Speaker 5: Well, there's just so many big plays. 1983 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,479 Speaker 2: I mean, how many times were the bases loaded or 1984 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 2: were guys on second and third with one out? 1985 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,960 Speaker 5: Oh they got guys like yeah, no outs. I don't 1986 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,679 Speaker 5: know how they got out of some of those jams. 1987 01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 2: Incredible, so incredible pitching performance by both teams. Obviously feel 1988 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 2: bad for the Detroit Tigers, but now we have a 1989 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,960 Speaker 2: Seattle in Toronto are very improbable. I would say, coming 1990 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,480 Speaker 2: into the season al Championship Series matchup. 1991 01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:15,240 Speaker 5: Detroit fans are really joyful that we were able to 1992 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 5: fit in a little bit of baseball to make sure 1993 01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,479 Speaker 5: we poured a little bit of salt into that one. 1994 01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,720 Speaker 2: Whoever thought we say this, at least you got a 1995 01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 2: football team out there in Detroit that's playing pretty decently. 1996 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 4: Ry All right, Mark, let's get back into it. We 1997 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 4: got four more categories left in our NFL six packs, starting. 1998 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,559 Speaker 6: With this beer goggles Kate. 1999 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,960 Speaker 2: Yes see ugly matchup that might actually turn out to 2000 01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,080 Speaker 2: be someone entertaining this weekend, and I'm going to go 2001 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,559 Speaker 2: with the Titans taking on my Raiders. Titans get the 2002 01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,439 Speaker 2: monkey off their back last week after some aid from Arizona, 2003 01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 2: which we talked about a little bit last hour. Now 2004 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 2: they had to Las Vegas where the Raiders pirate ship 2005 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,920 Speaker 2: is steadily sinking. Steadily Actually, if you know what, it's 2006 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 2: been perpetually sunk for the last forty years. Basically you 2007 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,400 Speaker 2: have to go like send an excavation and an excavator like 2008 01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:58,920 Speaker 2: the Titanic to try to bring that thing. 2009 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 5: From out of the bottom of the ocean. 2010 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,000 Speaker 4: Oh, it's been shot up like Sonny and Godfather, like 2011 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 4: with cannon balls. 2012 01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:04,840 Speaker 3: That thing. 2013 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 5: There's so many holes in that shit. 2014 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,360 Speaker 2: I will say for all the people wondering, by the way, 2015 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 2: if Geno Smith is gonna get benched for Kenny Pickett 2016 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:13,920 Speaker 2: or something not happening. 2017 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:15,439 Speaker 5: No, he's Pete Carroll's guy. 2018 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,439 Speaker 2: He makes way too much money and he's still the 2019 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 2: best option that they have, so he's not going anyow it. 2020 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,120 Speaker 2: This issue the Raiders are running into is the same 2021 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,479 Speaker 2: issues Seattle ran into when Gino Smith started to struggle 2022 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:28,759 Speaker 2: it's because they couldn't run the ball and they didn't 2023 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:29,679 Speaker 2: give him enough help. 2024 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:31,439 Speaker 5: One thing he used to say all the time. 2025 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 2: When we were critical of the late great Kobe Bryant 2026 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,160 Speaker 2: is sometimes when the Lakers were the most successful was 2027 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:36,960 Speaker 2: less was more. 2028 01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, when Kobe was less of. 2029 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,080 Speaker 2: A trying to be a scorer and was more of 2030 01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 2: a team player, the team actually performed better. When you 2031 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 2: lean on Geno Less, he's actually a better performer. You 2032 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,040 Speaker 2: want him throwing the ball I'd say between twenty five 2033 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,679 Speaker 2: and thirty times a game, not thirty five and forty, 2034 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,679 Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, that's when those warts start 2035 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 2: popping up. 2036 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 4: Maybe that's the guy who should be on the pitch 2037 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 4: count or the throwing count, since we were just talking 2038 01:25:59,000 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 4: about that. 2039 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,280 Speaker 5: No more than yes, he is an above average quarterback. 2040 01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,160 Speaker 2: But he's one of those guys who, even when things 2041 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 2: are going well, he's prone to have like i'd say, 2042 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 2: three to five games a year where he turns the 2043 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,360 Speaker 2: ball over and he's inaccurate and he's a little cold. 2044 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 2: That's just in his DNA. The problem is that gets 2045 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 2: exacerbated when he's not able to get a running game. 2046 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,360 Speaker 2: And Pete Carroll actually called out. I would even say 2047 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 2: that it was like, you know, a passive aggressive. It 2048 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,240 Speaker 2: was fairly explicitly, even though he didn't say chip Kelly's name. 2049 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,439 Speaker 2: He's basically we need to run the ball more and 2050 01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,040 Speaker 2: help Gino. That's gonna help him with all of his issues. 2051 01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:32,799 Speaker 2: We need to make sure that we put an emphasis 2052 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,559 Speaker 2: on running the ball more. As clearly a message to 2053 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,679 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly to hand the ball off to the guy 2054 01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,640 Speaker 2: that you use the top six pick on in the 2055 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,640 Speaker 2: draft and has shown flashes and has played well these 2056 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. 2057 01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:44,720 Speaker 5: Yes, when he's gotten the ball. 2058 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,760 Speaker 2: Now, with all that out of the way, I do 2059 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 2: think this is a game where Gino and the Raider 2060 01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 2: offense can actually play well. Even with brock Bauers being 2061 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 2: out with that knee injury, which by the way, he 2062 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,600 Speaker 2: should have been out for the last three weeks. The 2063 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 2: guy's been playing at like forty percent as a decoy. Yeah, 2064 01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 2: you gotta think long term with the young guy like that. 2065 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 2: You're worse for the wear by throwing them out there. 2066 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 2: But anyway, it's desperation mode for the Raiders. They can 2067 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,680 Speaker 2: see their season slipping away. I think they respond and 2068 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,360 Speaker 2: play better offensively than they had the last couple of weeks. 2069 01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,760 Speaker 2: I know Max Crosby's an excellent player, but I like 2070 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 2: cam Ward a little more the more and more that 2071 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,479 Speaker 2: I see him. Give him a little bit more time 2072 01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,640 Speaker 2: against that Raider secondary. I think some points can be 2073 01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,759 Speaker 2: scored here. So I know it looks like a pretty 2074 01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,439 Speaker 2: much of a dud matchup between two teams aren't going anywhere, 2075 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,680 Speaker 2: but I do think the game itself can actually end 2076 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,639 Speaker 2: up being fairly entertaining. 2077 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,800 Speaker 5: All right, this is also my beer goggles. 2078 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,160 Speaker 2: Game, The Old Man Comes Home Drunk. 2079 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 5: You may see two teams with a combined record of 2080 01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,959 Speaker 5: two and eight as some type of toilet bowl, especially 2081 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,599 Speaker 5: when one of the starting quarterbacks has already called their 2082 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:44,439 Speaker 5: team ass. 2083 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:45,240 Speaker 3: That's right. 2084 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 4: You might say both these teams are two cheeks of 2085 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:54,840 Speaker 4: the same ass. You might say that the Titans and 2086 01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,040 Speaker 4: Raiders deserve each other. It feels like a pretty even 2087 01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,840 Speaker 4: matchup of ineptitude right now, which could make for an 2088 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,760 Speaker 4: entertaining contest. At least That's what I'm seeing with my 2089 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:09,240 Speaker 4: beer goggles on. Hey, I don't see the Titans, you know, 2090 01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,839 Speaker 4: them getting that win last week as being that lucky. 2091 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,760 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, just because Brian Callahan, their head coach, postgames, 2092 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 4: said quote in the locker room, sometimes some s has 2093 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 4: got to go your way, Like you know, a guy 2094 01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 4: willfully fumbling the ball away at the goal line, or 2095 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,040 Speaker 4: the other team intercepting your quarterback fumbling and you somehow 2096 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 4: getting a touchdown out of it. Totally normal stuff that 2097 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:34,759 Speaker 4: happens once a century. 2098 01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,720 Speaker 5: No big deal. The fact that you need that to 2099 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,960 Speaker 5: help you win a game, I mean, yeah, says a lot. 2100 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 5: At least he almost owned it afterwards. But the lone 2101 01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,120 Speaker 5: Raiders win came all the way back in Week one 2102 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,800 Speaker 5: over the Pats on the road. That actually feels more 2103 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,160 Speaker 5: fluky than any of those Titans lucky breaks that they 2104 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 5: got this past weekend. 2105 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:58,200 Speaker 2: Now, so no, wait, the Raiders beat the Patriots, and 2106 01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,400 Speaker 2: the Patriots beat the Bill, So the Raiders are better 2107 01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 2: than the Bills, meaning they're the best team in the AFC. 2108 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:03,080 Speaker 2: That's how that. 2109 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,680 Speaker 5: Works, right, I don't know if that's how that works. No, No, 2110 01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,639 Speaker 5: that man, thousand percent how it works at them. 2111 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,879 Speaker 4: Well, look, I'm working with this as a beer goggles 2112 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:16,679 Speaker 4: game because I actually think these teams might mix it up, styles, 2113 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 4: make fights, and it's going to turn out to be 2114 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:20,320 Speaker 4: a fun competitive game somehow. 2115 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 5: All right, I like it? 2116 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:21,760 Speaker 2: All right? 2117 01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:22,400 Speaker 5: What's the next Mark? 2118 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 10: Oh my god, Oh my god, oh Try, I'm so. 2119 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:48,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, oh Troy. Epic fail potential. That is our next category. 2120 01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,040 Speaker 2: And now, speaking of the Buffalo Bills, I'm going with 2121 01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,160 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills against the Atlanta Falcons. Interesting last week, 2122 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,240 Speaker 2: I said that the Patriots game on Sunday night was 2123 01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,240 Speaker 2: a trap game and that the Bills needed to watch 2124 01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,759 Speaker 2: out for because sometimes, and sometimes look to my credit, 2125 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,920 Speaker 2: sometimes the blind squirrel finds that I actually think that 2126 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,360 Speaker 2: the Patriots were going to defeat the Bills. 2127 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:07,000 Speaker 5: No, I didn't. 2128 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,600 Speaker 2: I said it was a trap game potentially, but I 2129 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 2: thought the Bills would actually end up winning the game. Now, 2130 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,120 Speaker 2: with that being said, I know Buffalos four to one, 2131 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,280 Speaker 2: and yes, most games in the NFL are determined by 2132 01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,360 Speaker 2: a small margin, like we discussed a little bit earlier, 2133 01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,599 Speaker 2: But I do think there's a little bit of costs 2134 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,160 Speaker 2: for concern for this team other than that game against 2135 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,560 Speaker 2: the Jets in Week two, and that team looks like 2136 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,000 Speaker 2: a total disaster right now. By the way, they really 2137 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,759 Speaker 2: have not performed as well as you would think based 2138 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,679 Speaker 2: on the expectations of the Buffalo Bills coming into the season. 2139 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,720 Speaker 2: Saints and Dolphins both right there with them in the 2140 01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,960 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and they needed an epic comeback against Baltimore, 2141 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,240 Speaker 2: a Baltimore team that doesn't even look that great, by 2142 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,439 Speaker 2: the way, all the way back in Week one. So 2143 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 2: there's nothing glaringly wrong with the Bills statistically when you 2144 01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,479 Speaker 2: look at them, they just don't seem to be dominating 2145 01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,520 Speaker 2: the way that many people expected that they would considering 2146 01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,719 Speaker 2: their easy schedule. And by the way, I can acknowledge 2147 01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,400 Speaker 2: the fact that a sense of malays can set in 2148 01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,559 Speaker 2: where you're a team that has been six as they 2149 01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,559 Speaker 2: have been over the past six seven years. Granted they 2150 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,040 Speaker 2: haven't won a Super Bowl, but they've been to a 2151 01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,800 Speaker 2: handful of conference championship games, and knowing you have an 2152 01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,280 Speaker 2: easy schedule, sometimes you can take your foot off the 2153 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,360 Speaker 2: gas a little bit and maybe be a little bit 2154 01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,919 Speaker 2: bored with the regular season. Yeah, so I can understand 2155 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:16,680 Speaker 2: that part of it. At any rate, I do think 2156 01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:18,960 Speaker 2: there's potential for the Bills to lose their second string 2157 01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 2: gait here their second straight game. You're on the road 2158 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,040 Speaker 2: on a Monday night, where the Falcons are a four 2159 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,320 Speaker 2: and a half point underdog at last check they well 2160 01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,479 Speaker 2: at home they do, and home dogs in a Monday 2161 01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,840 Speaker 2: night we know generally perform well when it comes to 2162 01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,760 Speaker 2: the point spread. So I think the Falcons see this 2163 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,439 Speaker 2: game as a litmus test on a national stage to 2164 01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,240 Speaker 2: show that they are a team to be taken seriously 2165 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,120 Speaker 2: in the NFC, and a great way to do that 2166 01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:40,960 Speaker 2: will be to defeat the team that as of right 2167 01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,960 Speaker 2: now has the best odds the shortest odds to win 2168 01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:47,080 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, in the Buffalo Bills. The Bills are 2169 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:48,960 Speaker 2: second in the league in rushing, and kudos to them 2170 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,840 Speaker 2: forgetting Josh Allen some help on that front. You asked 2171 01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:53,920 Speaker 2: for it, I did, because that's what he's needed. But 2172 01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,400 Speaker 2: Atlanta's nipping at their heels when it comes to that 2173 01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,640 Speaker 2: nose that side of the ball. With Bijon Robinson one 2174 01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,800 Speaker 2: of the most dynamic players in the entire NFL. The 2175 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,880 Speaker 2: Bills have been banged up on defense these last couple 2176 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 2: of weeks, and I think Robinson has a big game 2177 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,760 Speaker 2: against that Buffalo defense and Atlanta has a great play 2178 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,080 Speaker 2: for an upset here on Monday night. 2179 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:15,479 Speaker 5: Interesting call. I like it, my old Troy potential fail. 2180 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,439 Speaker 10: Oh Troy, I'm so sorry. 2181 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,040 Speaker 5: I can see some old Troy potential for both of 2182 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,439 Speaker 5: these teams in Miami this week. I can see the 2183 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,599 Speaker 5: Chargers getting back on track in a big way and 2184 01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,880 Speaker 5: doing so at the expense of the Dolphins, who are 2185 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,680 Speaker 5: miserable and just lost to Bryce Young and the Panthers. 2186 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, well, they have dana seventeen point lead, 2187 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,120 Speaker 2: didn't they went they up to seventeen nothing in that game. 2188 01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:42,160 Speaker 4: They were Bryce Young also through an errant pass that 2189 01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,560 Speaker 4: was so far out of bounds that hit a cameraman 2190 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,599 Speaker 4: and it was low enough. He was also kneeling like 2191 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,360 Speaker 4: he was probably praying that that ball wasn't gonna hit him. 2192 01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,800 Speaker 4: But unfortunately Bryce Young is just so talented that he 2193 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 4: finds a way. Now, what if the Chargers lose to 2194 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,200 Speaker 4: that same Dolphins team that the Panthers just beat. 2195 01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:02,120 Speaker 5: That's an o Troy. 2196 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,080 Speaker 4: But I could also see a scenario where the Chargers 2197 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,640 Speaker 4: rise above the injuries going on and say We're not 2198 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,800 Speaker 4: gonna let the war of attrition take us down like 2199 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,599 Speaker 4: it usually does before they take themselves down in an 2200 01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:14,719 Speaker 4: epic playoff collapse. 2201 01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 3: Every year. 2202 01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,559 Speaker 4: They treat the Dolphins, or they should treat them like 2203 01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,679 Speaker 4: the one in four team they are. The Chargers cannot 2204 01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:26,280 Speaker 4: afford to lose another game because Kevin Chargers, well that 2205 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,800 Speaker 4: prediction he had for them winning the AFC West. It's 2206 01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,800 Speaker 4: starting to look like the Broncos are back in it. 2207 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,439 Speaker 4: The Chiefs as well. It looked like for a while 2208 01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,200 Speaker 4: was the Chargers to lose because they started off three 2209 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,040 Speaker 4: to zero against the division. But it's backup for grabs 2210 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,200 Speaker 4: except for the Raiders. The grab is the number one 2211 01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:50,000 Speaker 4: pitcher sports Radio. I give the Chargers, you know, the 2212 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:55,120 Speaker 4: opportunity to blow out the Dolphins, or maybe they have 2213 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,080 Speaker 4: a close defeat at the hands of the Dolphins. 2214 01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:58,000 Speaker 5: I could see that too. 2215 01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,000 Speaker 4: Either way, it's going to be an Oa Troy up 2216 01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 4: fail I think for somebody. 2217 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,600 Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with that. And by the way, my 2218 01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,240 Speaker 2: charge of prediction, yes, I made that prediction after Rashaun 2219 01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:08,160 Speaker 2: Slater got hurt. 2220 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,840 Speaker 5: But once Joe Alt and Amario and Hampton both went down, 2221 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,320 Speaker 5: y'all stick with it. Not to Mitch Khalil Mack is 2222 01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:13,639 Speaker 5: that all? 2223 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:15,080 Speaker 2: I feel like I get at least a little bit 2224 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,680 Speaker 2: of some sort of mulligan or something on that. 2225 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,760 Speaker 5: I mean, geez, who's the next running back that sees 2226 01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,519 Speaker 5: the Grimory Gunnings for his ankles right now with. 2227 01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,479 Speaker 2: The Chargers, Nytron means still still got some eligibility left. 2228 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,280 Speaker 5: Can he come back and play? Love nay Tron loved 2229 01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 5: him as a Jaguars, right Mark, What. 2230 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,479 Speaker 2: Do we have next under the microscope? Yes, the game 2231 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,439 Speaker 2: team player. Everyone should watch closely this weekend, and I'm 2232 01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,960 Speaker 2: going to Dillian Gabriel and that Brown's offense against the 2233 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,760 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. All things considered, I think he had a 2234 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,479 Speaker 2: pretty solid debut rookie quarterback. 2235 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,400 Speaker 5: A lot of people didn't necessarily want to see out there. 2236 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,160 Speaker 2: They wanted to see a certain Scout Team quarterback start 2237 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:50,080 Speaker 2: in front of him. 2238 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,040 Speaker 5: The hate watching going on with Tylan Gabriel is wrong. 2239 01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,000 Speaker 5: Congratulations to shed Or Sanders. 2240 01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:58,880 Speaker 2: He is now officially the backup, no longer the Scout 2241 01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,759 Speaker 2: Team quarterback, so could graduate to you. 2242 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,360 Speaker 5: Young man for gradually they made that move. 2243 01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, But playing overseas in his first NFL game against 2244 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,080 Speaker 2: one of the best defenses in the league, I think 2245 01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,600 Speaker 2: the deck was kind of stacked against Dylan Gabriel, and 2246 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,880 Speaker 2: all things considered, he played pretty damn well and put 2247 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,600 Speaker 2: them in a position to be able to win that 2248 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,519 Speaker 2: game until Carson Wentz let that game winning drive at 2249 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,280 Speaker 2: the end, he threw fro under two hundred yards only 2250 01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,680 Speaker 2: five point eight yards per throw, but a couple of 2251 01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,600 Speaker 2: touchdowns and most importantly didn't turn the ball over. So 2252 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,320 Speaker 2: now the questions becomes, what do you do for an encore? 2253 01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:29,439 Speaker 2: Now you return back to the States, you have to 2254 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,800 Speaker 2: face a division rival in the Pittsburgh Steelers on the 2255 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,320 Speaker 2: road coming off of a bye. So I don't know 2256 01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:35,920 Speaker 2: if you can call it a respite when you're facing 2257 01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,400 Speaker 2: the likes of TJ. Watt and Patrick Queen and that defense, 2258 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,840 Speaker 2: but that defense has not been as good as its 2259 01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:43,280 Speaker 2: reputation would bill it. 2260 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:45,280 Speaker 5: That's what's the eighth in the league in total defense 2261 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 5: right now. 2262 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 4: I still feel like because the Steelers in three are 2263 01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:52,200 Speaker 4: three and one and their defense hasn't played that well. 2264 01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,320 Speaker 4: The running game hasn't been that good. Those are two staples. 2265 01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,000 Speaker 4: That's what they do, that's what they hang their hat on. 2266 01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,640 Speaker 4: If those two things come around, then all of. 2267 01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,280 Speaker 2: A sudden they could look scared, absolutely absolutely, But as 2268 01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,439 Speaker 2: of right now they haven't. Now, I know they've had injuries, 2269 01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,320 Speaker 2: high Smith and Porter Junior are both supposed to be 2270 01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,280 Speaker 2: back this week, so that'll obviously give them a little 2271 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,400 Speaker 2: bit of a boost. But I do think for the Browns, 2272 01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,120 Speaker 2: the emergence of Queen John Jukins not necessarily a fan 2273 01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,120 Speaker 2: of the person, but the player, very good impact player 2274 01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,759 Speaker 2: on the field for them, love the artists gives them exactly, 2275 01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,160 Speaker 2: has given them a huge boost. And they've got a 2276 01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:25,559 Speaker 2: lot of good young guys in there. They have that 2277 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:27,320 Speaker 2: rookie tied end that they've thrown the in there who's 2278 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,120 Speaker 2: played extremely well for them as well. So I want 2279 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,720 Speaker 2: to see how Dylan Gabriel plays this weekend in the 2280 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,720 Speaker 2: Steel City. I know they have tape on him now 2281 01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,160 Speaker 2: and it's all about adjustments and how they adjust to you. 2282 01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:38,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 2283 01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:39,200 Speaker 2: But I'll say I like. 2284 01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,400 Speaker 5: What Cleveland is doing in general, getting these young guys. 2285 01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,040 Speaker 2: Harold Fan and that's his name, Isaiah Bond, who would 2286 01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,840 Speaker 2: have been an early draft pick but got undrafted and 2287 01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,720 Speaker 2: they signed him as a free agent, can make an 2288 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,240 Speaker 2: impact for the impact for them as well. I still 2289 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,679 Speaker 2: think that Dylan Gabriel is best suited to be a backup. 2290 01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be the back the 2291 01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,720 Speaker 2: Browns quarterback of the future. But I also set the 2292 01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,000 Speaker 2: same thing about brock party with the San Francisco forty nine. 2293 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,240 Speaker 2: Is the able to see what happened with him once 2294 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:02,639 Speaker 2: he got his opportunity to start. 2295 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you say that about Cleveland Brown quarterback, 2296 01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:10,320 Speaker 4: you're in a real good company. Like the odds are, 2297 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:11,880 Speaker 4: they ain't gonna be around for long. 2298 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:12,559 Speaker 3: This is true. 2299 01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:13,200 Speaker 5: This is true. 2300 01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,120 Speaker 2: So I do want to see what this kid does 2301 01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,799 Speaker 2: in his second NFL start in a pretty hostile environment, 2302 01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:19,439 Speaker 2: and I'm actually kind of encouraged. 2303 01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:20,880 Speaker 5: I think he's going to have a pretty good outing 2304 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:21,679 Speaker 5: against Pittsburgh. 2305 01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,160 Speaker 4: All right, under the microscope game, I need to see 2306 01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:30,280 Speaker 4: my Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers look better in 2307 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,960 Speaker 4: all facets. After a forty to forty tie against the Cowboys, 2308 01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:36,840 Speaker 4: and before that, I lost to the Browns, they got 2309 01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:40,320 Speaker 4: a week off. They're playing a team as weak as 2310 01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,960 Speaker 4: any we've seen so far this season, and the now 2311 01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:46,160 Speaker 4: two and three Bengals, who are bungling. 2312 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,719 Speaker 5: They have lost three in a row. 2313 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,760 Speaker 4: It's a good team, sure, but they are getting destroyed. 2314 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,880 Speaker 4: They made the quarterback move after being down twenty eight 2315 01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,280 Speaker 4: to three early on in that game to the Lions. 2316 01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 4: The final score was not indicative of how badly they 2317 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:03,799 Speaker 4: they were getting beaten up at home by Detroit. Last week, 2318 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:09,360 Speaker 4: I mentioned the Bengals fans won Jamis Winston, Well, he's 2319 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,800 Speaker 4: not gonna save them now. I don't know if Joe 2320 01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:16,240 Speaker 4: Flacco is gonna be that guy either, but regardless, I 2321 01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,120 Speaker 4: just need to see Micah Parsons, the one hundred and 2322 01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:20,600 Speaker 4: eighty eight million. 2323 01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,839 Speaker 5: Dollar man, earn his money. 2324 01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:26,160 Speaker 4: I mean, at least two sacks for my Super Bowl 2325 01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,400 Speaker 4: champion Packers against the Bengals. 2326 01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:29,640 Speaker 5: I need complete domination. 2327 01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,160 Speaker 4: I need those Tigers to change their stripes to els 2328 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,360 Speaker 4: on the Bengals uniforms by halftime. I want the Packers 2329 01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,960 Speaker 4: to prove to me they are still a contender, because 2330 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,960 Speaker 4: I just saw the Lions do it to Cincy. So 2331 01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:43,680 Speaker 4: they had a bye week off. They're sitting there at 2332 01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,000 Speaker 4: home in Green Bay waiting for the Bengals. They should 2333 01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,719 Speaker 4: be waving goodbye to them midway through the second quarter. 2334 01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:50,920 Speaker 5: That's fair, that's fair. 2335 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,200 Speaker 2: You should be able to eat against lesser competition, and 2336 01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,320 Speaker 2: that is exactly what the Cincinnati Bengals are. So that's 2337 01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,240 Speaker 2: a good under the microscope. I'll be watching closely for 2338 01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,720 Speaker 2: that too, because they're really determined. I won't determine whether 2339 01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,320 Speaker 2: or not they won the Super Bowl, obviously, but if 2340 01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,479 Speaker 2: you're talking about the pecking order and the power rankings 2341 01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:06,600 Speaker 2: of the NFC and where you stack up, this is 2342 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,519 Speaker 2: a team you should have make some really good hay against. 2343 01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,720 Speaker 5: We got one more category here before we get out, 2344 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,639 Speaker 5: mark redemption round. 2345 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,760 Speaker 2: Yes, the team a player looking to bounce back from 2346 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,679 Speaker 2: last week. I'm going to go back to that Chargers 2347 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,639 Speaker 2: Miami game. I think this is a redemption round week four. 2348 01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,160 Speaker 2: I almost call them the San Diego Chargers. Well, I'll 2349 01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,439 Speaker 2: always be the San Diego Chargers to me. Why great 2350 01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,840 Speaker 2: Jersey's great song? Like you mentioned, so why they hell 2351 01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 2: not great? But you mentioned they started phenomenal city, started 2352 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,160 Speaker 2: three and oh they were might pick to win the 2353 01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,600 Speaker 2: AFC West. And then all of a sudden, like the 2354 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,360 Speaker 2: Chargers typically do, was not their fault. All the injuries 2355 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,679 Speaker 2: start to cascade on them. They're lost their two starting 2356 01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,800 Speaker 2: offensive tackles and their backup offensive tackle are all out 2357 01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,679 Speaker 2: Amari and Hampton. Their number one pick our running back 2358 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:50,599 Speaker 2: is now out as well. They're running out. There's no where, 2359 01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:52,640 Speaker 2: there's no room, there's no there's no there's no more 2360 01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:54,160 Speaker 2: room in the ambulance. They used to run out. What 2361 01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,400 Speaker 2: was it on Madden that would actually hit the players. 2362 01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:59,439 Speaker 5: Ran right over guys over healthy weren't after that? 2363 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,120 Speaker 2: No, it's ridiculous. So even as the Chargers being as 2364 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,320 Speaker 2: banged up as they are, I think the Miami Dolphins 2365 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,600 Speaker 2: are a dumpster fire at this point, evidence by the 2366 01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:09,680 Speaker 2: fact that they blew a seventeen to nothing lead to 2367 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,200 Speaker 2: Adam's Terrible Panthers last week. 2368 01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:13,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fair. I mean that's awful. 2369 01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,559 Speaker 2: So I do think the Chargers have to win a 2370 01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 2: game like this. Despite all their injuries. You still have 2371 01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,559 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, who's supposed to be one of the great 2372 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,519 Speaker 2: young quarterbacks, one of the faces of the league, who's 2373 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,080 Speaker 2: supposed to take a leap this season. I know he's 2374 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:28,160 Speaker 2: running for his life, but you know what, Patrick Mahomes 2375 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:29,920 Speaker 2: has run for his life the last couple of years too, 2376 01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,880 Speaker 2: and he's found ways to win. So my redemption round 2377 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,200 Speaker 2: goes to the Chargers and it must win game in Miami. 2378 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,960 Speaker 5: All right in my redemption round. Can't believe I'm doing this. 2379 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:44,080 Speaker 4: Lightning may not strike twice, but Spencer Rattler does and 2380 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,200 Speaker 4: I showed him some love last week. Thought he would 2381 01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,519 Speaker 4: get his first win after starting zero to ten as 2382 01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,599 Speaker 4: a starter. He did against Jackson Dart and the Giants, 2383 01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:55,479 Speaker 4: who then got a big win themselves. But even though 2384 01:40:55,520 --> 01:41:00,000 Speaker 4: Spencer Rattler tried an illegal double forward pass at one point, 2385 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw that, passed it forward, 2386 01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,320 Speaker 4: got knocked back to him behind the line of scrimmage, 2387 01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,080 Speaker 4: tried it again, think it went out of bounds. They 2388 01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:12,439 Speaker 4: didn't throw a flag, but still he became the first 2389 01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,360 Speaker 4: drafted Saints quarterback bree to get a win for them 2390 01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 4: since nineteen ninety eight. I could ask you who that 2391 01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,400 Speaker 4: quarterback was, but you didn't jump on until Drew Brees 2392 01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 4: was under center. 2393 01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,040 Speaker 5: I think so, do you want to guess who that 2394 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,040 Speaker 5: quarterback was? Burry Quiz, drafted. 2395 01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,800 Speaker 4: Quarterback by the Saints, the last one to actually get 2396 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:33,080 Speaker 4: a win. 2397 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:38,799 Speaker 2: It starts like Wayne Something, Wayne's World, Danny warffet Waffel, 2398 01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,040 Speaker 2: Darny war Warfle and a warfol Yes, yes, we're. 2399 01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:42,639 Speaker 1: For a world. 2400 01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,720 Speaker 4: So with Spencer Ratler getting a win after starting zher 2401 01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,080 Speaker 4: to ten, that means that Shaun Kaiser's record of being 2402 01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:50,680 Speaker 4: oh to fifteen as a starter is safe. He never 2403 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,360 Speaker 4: got a win in the NFL. That is DiMaggio's hit streak. 2404 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:55,840 Speaker 4: You will never touch that round. 2405 01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:57,600 Speaker 2: I would un retire and try to sign with a 2406 01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,600 Speaker 2: great team and just take like the first snap of 2407 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,840 Speaker 2: the game. I'm sure teams are lining up, yeah, just 2408 01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,720 Speaker 2: so I can, you know, just so I can get 2409 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,600 Speaker 2: the win. Cause somebody have extend that charity to the 2410 01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,160 Speaker 2: Shawn Kaiser so he doesn't have that distinction. 2411 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,960 Speaker 5: The human victory cigar. Now, I'm not saying the Saints 2412 01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,599 Speaker 5: for sure went at home against the Patriots, who are 2413 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,719 Speaker 5: on the rise themselves after that big winning Buffalo you mentioned, 2414 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,160 Speaker 5: But I am saying that they can be competitive, and 2415 01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 5: Rattler does look like an NFL quarterback. Drake May even 2416 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,600 Speaker 5: went through his own early season struggles and got it 2417 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,519 Speaker 5: together with apologies to Lane Kiffin. Why not the part 2418 01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:34,640 Speaker 5: rat par Snake, Spencer Rattler getting it together getting it 2419 01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,479 Speaker 5: together this week, Like I could see it happening where 2420 01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,280 Speaker 5: they're competitive and that's a fun game. Actually breathe competitive 2421 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,519 Speaker 5: or they're gonna win. They're gonna win, they're gonna cover. 2422 01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:47,400 Speaker 5: Don't get greedy. All right, more on that coming up 2423 01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,240 Speaker 5: and two on two off. But up next, Kevin, up. 2424 01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,280 Speaker 2: Next, we got to talk some college football. Some of 2425 01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,439 Speaker 2: the big matchups coming up this weekend. We have the 2426 01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:56,439 Speaker 2: red River Shootout among a couple of others, so we'll 2427 01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,400 Speaker 2: do that coming up next year on Fox Football Saturday 2428 01:42:58,439 --> 01:42:59,719 Speaker 2: with Kevin Figures and Adam Ouslin. 2429 01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:03,240 Speaker 6: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 2430 01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,040 Speaker 6: Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com 2431 01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,200 Speaker 6: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 2432 01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,759 Speaker 6: Try to help you young guys in this profession you've chosen. 2433 01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:17,520 Speaker 6: It's one are two steps above prostitution? 2434 01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:18,439 Speaker 2: F and A. 2435 01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,479 Speaker 5: Oh, Figures and Adam, I get it. That's a classic. 2436 01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,880 Speaker 2: If you missed any of today's show, you want to 2437 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,080 Speaker 2: catch the podcast that includes our conversation with our family 2438 01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:28,479 Speaker 2: member here at Fox Sports Radio. 2439 01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,680 Speaker 5: Chris Plank also does sidelines for Oklahoma. 2440 01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,960 Speaker 2: Talking about the red River rivalry, I could say, well, 2441 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:35,800 Speaker 2: slowly there, Adam. 2442 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,919 Speaker 5: Red River Rivalry, red River Rivalry, red River Rivalry, Reder Rivalry. 2443 01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,760 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. 2444 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,600 Speaker 2: Right after the show, today's podcast will be posted. Be 2445 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,280 Speaker 2: sure to follow the podcast. Rat it five stars and 2446 01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,040 Speaker 2: you can even provide a review. Again. Just search Fox 2447 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,080 Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and you will 2448 01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,280 Speaker 2: find today's full show posted right after we get off 2449 01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:57,960 Speaker 2: of the air. 2450 01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,160 Speaker 4: Before that, we still got two on two off with 2451 01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:04,320 Speaker 4: our NFL picks, but we got to get to and 2452 01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,240 Speaker 4: we're coming up with production for this because we're doing 2453 01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:09,640 Speaker 4: it every week as we should. We're calling it the 2454 01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,960 Speaker 4: College Football Forecast. 2455 01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,519 Speaker 5: Oh listen to that there we go. Okay, Yeah, that drum, 2456 01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,840 Speaker 5: the drum that tells you that's a band. This is 2457 01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,920 Speaker 5: college football. Yeah, this is an NFL music. No, this 2458 01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:24,559 Speaker 5: is is. 2459 01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, college football on Fox Big Noon and that crew 2460 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,519 Speaker 2: Big Nude kickoff that's right, featuring Ohio State in Illinois, 2461 01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:33,080 Speaker 2: which I don't think is going to be much of 2462 01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:33,360 Speaker 2: a game. 2463 01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,519 Speaker 5: Tell me about it, Kevin, Ohio State. 2464 01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,320 Speaker 2: Ohio State has been fairly I mean dominant, is strong, 2465 01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:41,080 Speaker 2: but they they look like and by the way, you 2466 01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:43,000 Speaker 2: have a young quarterback back there without a lot of 2467 01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:44,720 Speaker 2: experience who's growing into the role. 2468 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:46,759 Speaker 5: But they just have so much talent on that roster. 2469 01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,000 Speaker 5: He's completing eighty percent of his passes. 2470 01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,360 Speaker 2: Al Granted, he's not throwing the ball eighty rs down 2471 01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,120 Speaker 2: the field, but you don't need to. 2472 01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:54,679 Speaker 5: They should you dink and dunk. 2473 01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:55,559 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 2474 01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,360 Speaker 5: That's all Julian saying is doing. 2475 01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 2: First of all, that's not all he's doing. He's doing 2476 01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,000 Speaker 2: a lot of it. But it's okay. Whatever it takes 2477 01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:05,040 Speaker 2: to win doesn't bother me. And you're going up against 2478 01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:08,160 Speaker 2: an Illinois team. Obviously they had they had the comeback 2479 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,000 Speaker 2: victory in overtime against you, as see. I think they're 2480 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,760 Speaker 2: still smarting from that Indiana loss. I just don't think 2481 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:14,400 Speaker 2: they have the horses to be able to keep up. 2482 01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,479 Speaker 2: From a skill position standpoint with Ohio State, I think 2483 01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,040 Speaker 2: they can score some points in Ohio State's defense has 2484 01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:21,040 Speaker 2: been dominant this year. 2485 01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:22,800 Speaker 5: Is it the best in the country. They've given up 2486 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,920 Speaker 5: two touchdowns? Yes, like that's crazy. Answer your question. They 2487 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:29,840 Speaker 5: are absolutely the best. Teams are averaging five points against them. Yeah, 2488 01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,400 Speaker 5: so as good as Illinois's offense is. 2489 01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,240 Speaker 2: And I do like Luke Altmeyer and I think they're 2490 01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,599 Speaker 2: gonna be able to score a little bit on the 2491 01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:38,559 Speaker 2: I just don't think they're gonna be able to keep up. 2492 01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,160 Speaker 2: On the flip side, Illinois defense has not been very good, 2493 01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:44,240 Speaker 2: especially against top competition this year. So I think Ohio 2494 01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,840 Speaker 2: State runs the ball up and down the field on them. Offensively, 2495 01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,200 Speaker 2: I can easily see this being like a forty five 2496 01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:50,679 Speaker 2: to twenty one type of game. 2497 01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:51,479 Speaker 3: Something like that. 2498 01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,960 Speaker 4: Let's get to a game that could be more competitive 2499 01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,800 Speaker 4: between two top ten teams. One of these teams is 2500 01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:58,840 Speaker 4: in the top five. That would be the number three 2501 01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:06,559 Speaker 4: Oregon Ducks, who are hosting Indiana at Austin. I think 2502 01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,599 Speaker 4: this is a game where the Ducks are favored by 2503 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,360 Speaker 4: seven and a half, but I don't know. They might 2504 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:15,720 Speaker 4: show just how talented they are. I wouldn't be surprised. 2505 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,599 Speaker 4: Kevin at home. They are forty one and one their 2506 01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:19,920 Speaker 4: last forty two home games. 2507 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,280 Speaker 2: You know the last Big ten team that Oregon lost 2508 01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:23,400 Speaker 2: a home game two. 2509 01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,720 Speaker 5: That's Big ten team they lost a home game two. 2510 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:32,800 Speaker 5: I know this, and I should know this. Oh at 2511 01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:33,519 Speaker 5: Michigan State. 2512 01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:37,559 Speaker 4: No, No, was it Indiana, son of a bit? 2513 01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:38,320 Speaker 2: It was Indiana. 2514 01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,000 Speaker 5: I feel like you tricked me. 2515 01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,519 Speaker 2: It was Indiana back in the early two thousands, in 2516 01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:44,960 Speaker 2: another game, by the way, similar to this game is 2517 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,519 Speaker 2: gonna look nice? 2518 01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,559 Speaker 5: Hey, Mark, I played the dumbass sound? Was that not 2519 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:50,240 Speaker 5: good enough? 2520 01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,360 Speaker 2: Rainy conditions? I think Kellen Clemens was the starting quarterback 2521 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,360 Speaker 2: for them back then. Okay, don't they turned the ball 2522 01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,800 Speaker 2: over like seven times or something in Indiana, who was 2523 01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:00,760 Speaker 2: an also rand in the Big Ten, and granted they 2524 01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,040 Speaker 2: have been for the majority of their existence the last 2525 01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:06,479 Speaker 2: fifty years or whatever it's been. Now you have rainy 2526 01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:09,320 Speaker 2: inclement weather and that's what cost Oregon back in that game. 2527 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:11,799 Speaker 2: It's going to be rainy inclement weather out at Alton 2528 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,360 Speaker 2: Stadium this weekend as well. 2529 01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,120 Speaker 5: Plus with all the smoke there, you have that. 2530 01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:18,720 Speaker 2: This is one of those games that I think is 2531 01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,640 Speaker 2: going to be one and dominated in the trenches and 2532 01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:22,920 Speaker 2: both teams that are really good upfront on both sides. 2533 01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,120 Speaker 2: But I do think Oregon is a little bit better 2534 01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:26,439 Speaker 2: than Indiana when it comes to that. 2535 01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,120 Speaker 4: They won the battle in the trenches against Penn State, 2536 01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,679 Speaker 4: which looked like a much better win before Penn State 2537 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,000 Speaker 4: s the bed against UCLA last week. 2538 01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,080 Speaker 2: H as an Ald timer, Yeah, which I mean, I 2539 01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:37,960 Speaker 2: think we all got that one wrong. I said, I said, 2540 01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,000 Speaker 2: don't even watch the game, don't pay attention to the game. 2541 01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:40,599 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. 2542 01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,400 Speaker 5: Remember, we looked at the line. It was like Penn 2543 01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:45,439 Speaker 5: State minus twenty four and a half twenty four, and 2544 01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:46,400 Speaker 5: I said that's way too low. 2545 01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody felt like that hammer it very someone new. 2546 01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:51,720 Speaker 2: I do think it was a very cool moment to 2547 01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:56,280 Speaker 2: see Rick Neuheisel, the father of Jerry Newheiseel, who was 2548 01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,719 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator who just got promoted to the offensive 2549 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,680 Speaker 2: coordinator position on Tuesday of last week, and all of 2550 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,160 Speaker 2: a sudden, that entire offense flips on its head and 2551 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:06,479 Speaker 2: runs up and down the field on what was supposed 2552 01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,640 Speaker 2: to be a great Penn State defense. And there's the 2553 01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:12,200 Speaker 2: shot of UCLA winning the game and Rick new Heidel 2554 01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:15,600 Speaker 2: in studio at CBS cheering on his son at his 2555 01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:16,439 Speaker 2: alma mater. 2556 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:18,280 Speaker 5: For him to get the victory. That was a pretty 2557 01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,920 Speaker 5: cool moment to see. You know, I'm going to come 2558 01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:27,000 Speaker 5: clean on this right almost Well. 2559 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:31,080 Speaker 4: Also the parallel between Jerry Neuheisel being lifted and carried 2560 01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,759 Speaker 4: off the field when they upset Texas back in the day, when. 2561 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:35,400 Speaker 2: He here's a quartering back at UCLA it was a 2562 01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:36,960 Speaker 2: backup and had to come into that game off the 2563 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:37,800 Speaker 2: bench and get the victory. 2564 01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,040 Speaker 4: For sure, that was special and well, but he needed 2565 01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:41,240 Speaker 4: that more than UCLA. 2566 01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:43,439 Speaker 2: So I do think Indiana is a very good team 2567 01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:45,200 Speaker 2: and I think the game will be very competitive. They're 2568 01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,920 Speaker 2: not a pushover whatsoever. I do give the edge to 2569 01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:49,800 Speaker 2: Oregon in this one. I think they're just a little 2570 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,639 Speaker 2: bit more talented, and I'll no, actually, I say they're 2571 01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,440 Speaker 2: a little bit more physical and a lot more talented 2572 01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,720 Speaker 2: at the skill positions the Indiana, and I think that's 2573 01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:00,200 Speaker 2: gonna end up being the difference. But Indiana, if you 2574 01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,160 Speaker 2: lose to Oregon on the road, nobody's gonna hold that 2575 01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,960 Speaker 2: against you. They still have a stake to the claim 2576 01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,040 Speaker 2: of making it to the Big Ten Championship game and 2577 01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,120 Speaker 2: certainly making it to the playoff as an at large. 2578 01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can have a moral victory losing to Oregon. 2579 01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,320 Speaker 4: I think they're that good and I think their defensive 2580 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,240 Speaker 4: line could be the difference in this game. 2581 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,759 Speaker 2: Speaking of moral victories, I thought this was very interesting. 2582 01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:20,479 Speaker 2: I'm listening to Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 2583 01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:22,920 Speaker 2: earlier this week, and Brady Quinn brought up something interesting 2584 01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:24,679 Speaker 2: talking about the Red River shootout. 2585 01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,400 Speaker 5: What I don't know of this Red River shootout? Red 2586 01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:29,200 Speaker 5: River rivalry? 2587 01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:29,599 Speaker 3: Ooo? 2588 01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,200 Speaker 5: That one you know about? That one that was smooth? 2589 01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,719 Speaker 2: Kevin? Oh, thank you? So he says, do you lose 2590 01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:37,920 Speaker 2: the battle to potentially win the war? When it comes 2591 01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:40,840 Speaker 2: to Jommetier and his hand injury, because you know, the 2592 01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,160 Speaker 2: committee is not going to hold it against you if 2593 01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,120 Speaker 2: you're Oklahoma and you lose the Red River rivalry game 2594 01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,559 Speaker 2: to Texas if Jommeteer doesn't play right. So if he 2595 01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,040 Speaker 2: doesn't play and he comes back and they rattle off 2596 01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,360 Speaker 2: a bunch of victories and they're on the bubble when 2597 01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,400 Speaker 2: it comes to being in that large team in the playoff, 2598 01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:58,880 Speaker 2: they're not gonna look at it. Even if Texas sans 2599 01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:00,800 Speaker 2: up having a bad year and they peter out and 2600 01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:03,599 Speaker 2: it's all bad for Arch Manning and Steve Sharkegian. Sure 2601 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,720 Speaker 2: they're gonna say, you lost a rivalry game, but you 2602 01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:07,920 Speaker 2: didn't have your best player. We're not gonna hold that 2603 01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:08,680 Speaker 2: loss against you. 2604 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,360 Speaker 4: It's like so reverse of what happened with Florida State 2605 01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:14,040 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. Yes, when they lost Jordan 2606 01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:16,799 Speaker 4: Travis and they realized they're not the same team. Now, 2607 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,599 Speaker 4: in this case, Matti would be coming back and they'd 2608 01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:21,839 Speaker 4: be playing better late in the year, so the losses 2609 01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:23,599 Speaker 4: they had without him wouldn't count against them. 2610 01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:26,200 Speaker 2: So what they would you Oklahoma actually be better off 2611 01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,760 Speaker 2: sitting him in this game, risking the fact that they 2612 01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,080 Speaker 2: might lose to Texas, but also knowing that he gets 2613 01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,720 Speaker 2: another week to heal and he can be better for 2614 01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,200 Speaker 2: them down the stretch and help them finish the season 2615 01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,360 Speaker 2: with one or maybe even two losses and increase their 2616 01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,360 Speaker 2: playoff rankings. As opposed to putting him in this game 2617 01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,720 Speaker 2: this afternoon, he ends up getting hurt for longer, and 2618 01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:48,240 Speaker 2: you lose the game and you potentially find yourself out 2619 01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:49,880 Speaker 2: of the race because you lost your best player for 2620 01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,920 Speaker 2: the season. It was a very intriguing notion that I 2621 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:53,679 Speaker 2: hadn't thought about. 2622 01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,719 Speaker 4: I would say this, first of all, I think Michael 2623 01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,479 Speaker 4: Hawkins Junior could win the game against Texas with how 2624 01:50:58,520 --> 01:50:59,599 Speaker 4: bad they have looked. 2625 01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:00,960 Speaker 5: If he's under center for Oklahoma. 2626 01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:05,519 Speaker 4: But because there's that human element with the committee, they 2627 01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,760 Speaker 4: also could take into account that he's not right yet 2628 01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,479 Speaker 4: and he has come back early, and if he doesn't 2629 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,360 Speaker 4: look great, but then he starts to get rolling in 2630 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,360 Speaker 4: the next coming weeks, they also might not hold it 2631 01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,720 Speaker 4: against them as much as it would. 2632 01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:20,639 Speaker 5: Be a loss for anybody else. 2633 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,920 Speaker 2: I am encouraged by what I saw from arch Manning 2634 01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:25,800 Speaker 2: last week in a hostile environment against one of the 2635 01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,880 Speaker 2: best defenses in the league. After getting down big, he 2636 01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,799 Speaker 2: almost led a comeback in the swamp against DJ Lagway 2637 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:34,720 Speaker 2: and that offense, which really woke up because I guess 2638 01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:37,559 Speaker 2: this Wilson kid who Florida has been missing, this freshman 2639 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,880 Speaker 2: over the past four or five weeks to start the season. 2640 01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,240 Speaker 2: He must be the second coming of Randy Moss or something. 2641 01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,120 Speaker 2: You hear people talk about him. He certainly made a 2642 01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,479 Speaker 2: giant impact for them last week because Texas up before 2643 01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,720 Speaker 2: last week, was also one of the best defenses in 2644 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,400 Speaker 2: the country, and they've shown some leaks, so you think. 2645 01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:55,000 Speaker 5: Arch Manning is he primed for a breakout performance. This 2646 01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:55,439 Speaker 5: could be it. 2647 01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,280 Speaker 2: You know when Chris Plank told us when he came 2648 01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:59,360 Speaker 2: on the show earlier that Oklahoma was prone to giving 2649 01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:02,679 Speaker 2: up the big play, and we know that that Texas 2650 01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,240 Speaker 2: passing game, despite the fact that their offensive line hasn't 2651 01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:06,760 Speaker 2: been good in Archis was running for his life, they 2652 01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:08,840 Speaker 2: can make some plays down the field. So I think 2653 01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:10,720 Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna call it and say that Texas ends 2654 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,080 Speaker 2: up winning this game. Matier or no, matier doesn't matter. 2655 01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,040 Speaker 2: I think they're able to make plays against that Oklahoma 2656 01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:17,080 Speaker 2: defensive secondary. 2657 01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:18,120 Speaker 3: I guarantee. 2658 01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,559 Speaker 2: I'm i guaranteeing a thing, but I will yeah, I 2659 01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:23,559 Speaker 2: will say I do think that the Texas Longhorns did 2660 01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:24,719 Speaker 2: him getting this victory today. 2661 01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:28,639 Speaker 5: Okay, that's bold. I like that. What about Michigan out 2662 01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:30,640 Speaker 5: here on the west coast, west side. 2663 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,760 Speaker 2: Out physicals USC on the front lines, and you know, 2664 01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,400 Speaker 2: I when Oklahoma beat Michigan earlier this year, we had 2665 01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,040 Speaker 2: petros on and I kind of poop pooed it to 2666 01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,080 Speaker 2: steal a line from Rob Parker, like, Yeah, Michigan's a 2667 01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:43,639 Speaker 2: middling Big Ten team. They're good. Underwood's a freshman quarterback. 2668 01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,960 Speaker 2: He's solid, but nothing special. I've changed my tun on 2669 01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:48,920 Speaker 2: that and he's looked amazing. They're running the ball well 2670 01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,519 Speaker 2: and he is improving every single solitary week. So they 2671 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:55,080 Speaker 2: actually have discovered the four pass in ann Arbor and 2672 01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:56,280 Speaker 2: it's helping them win some games. 2673 01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:56,479 Speaker 3: Here. 2674 01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,840 Speaker 4: When's usc gon has rediscovered the running game, I should say, 2675 01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:00,800 Speaker 4: you know what, they've been. 2676 01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:04,040 Speaker 2: Better this year. They've looked a lot better. They looked 2677 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,760 Speaker 2: more like than Lincoln right of the Oklahoma teams that 2678 01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,080 Speaker 2: actually had a very healthy mix of running pass. 2679 01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,440 Speaker 4: It's still not enough if you want to be physical 2680 01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:12,519 Speaker 4: in the Big Ten. 2681 01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think they're more on the defensive 2682 01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,599 Speaker 2: side than the offensive side. I just don't know if 2683 01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,040 Speaker 2: they can hold up against that Michigan offensive line and 2684 01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,599 Speaker 2: nothing the way that Illinois ran them over a couple 2685 01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:26,519 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. I think Michigan is even better than 2686 01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,960 Speaker 2: Illinois upfront, is even as good as Brett Beilaman is 2687 01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:31,639 Speaker 2: as an offensive line coach. So I think Michigan goes 2688 01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:35,520 Speaker 2: into the coliseum and runs all over USC. So I 2689 01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,320 Speaker 2: maybe it's a seven, seven to ten point game something 2690 01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:39,439 Speaker 2: like that last. 2691 01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:42,679 Speaker 4: Year on this that was one of USC's close calls. 2692 01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:44,800 Speaker 4: Last year, wasn't a twenty seven to twenty four one 2693 01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,400 Speaker 4: of the games that they blew up wid There were 2694 01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,840 Speaker 4: many Big House. Yes at the Big House. They blew 2695 01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:49,120 Speaker 4: that game. 2696 01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:50,760 Speaker 2: They blew a game against Maryland, They blew a game 2697 01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:52,760 Speaker 2: at home against Penn State that there's a laundry list. 2698 01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:54,559 Speaker 2: One more I want to get in before we get 2699 01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:56,080 Speaker 2: out of here, Bri a big one of the SEC. 2700 01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,360 Speaker 2: It's a statement game from Missouri if they could find 2701 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,040 Speaker 2: a way to beat Alabama, because Missouri is one of 2702 01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:03,960 Speaker 2: those teams in the SEC that says we want automatic qualifiers. 2703 01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,960 Speaker 2: Because of the subjectivity of a committee, we are never 2704 01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:10,000 Speaker 2: going to have the cachet name value of Alabama, LSU, 2705 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,760 Speaker 2: all burn whatever, no matter how good we are. The 2706 01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,160 Speaker 2: fact that they're undefeated and they're raked in the top 2707 01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,519 Speaker 2: four in the country in offense and defense and they 2708 01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:19,639 Speaker 2: still only come in at number twenty in the country 2709 01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,519 Speaker 2: and this is the first week that they're ranked tells 2710 01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,599 Speaker 2: you all you need to know. So they are fighting 2711 01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:28,040 Speaker 2: for basically for relevancy to say, we are Missouri, we 2712 01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:29,679 Speaker 2: are an SEC team, we are legit. 2713 01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:30,920 Speaker 5: Give us our damn respect. 2714 01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:32,960 Speaker 2: Respect And I think they get it because I think 2715 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:34,560 Speaker 2: they beat Alabama this weekend. 2716 01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:38,720 Speaker 4: Wow, Alabama has been through the ringer. They've gotten victories, 2717 01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,200 Speaker 4: but they've had a really tough schedule the last three weeks. 2718 01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:43,320 Speaker 5: This is not going to be an easy game early game, 2719 01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:44,440 Speaker 5: and they don't stop the run. 2720 01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:45,960 Speaker 2: And Missouri is one of the best teams in the 2721 01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,240 Speaker 2: country and are the best team in the SEC at 2722 01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:49,080 Speaker 2: running the football. 2723 01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,120 Speaker 5: All right, Well, they got to prove themselves because their 2724 01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:54,040 Speaker 5: best victory is against like South Carolina. They beat UMass 2725 01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,120 Speaker 5: last week. It ain't much, but this is their big moment. 2726 01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,960 Speaker 5: It's coming out party for Missou. Coming up next two 2727 01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:04,720 Speaker 5: on two off two picks on A favorites or on 2728 01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:07,720 Speaker 5: favorites in the NFL two picks on underdogs here in 2729 01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:11,080 Speaker 5: our betting segment. Final segment here on F and A 2730 01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:16,240 Speaker 5: on FSR, you guys give up Thursday for more FNA. 2731 01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:19,560 Speaker 2: Cotton Well the best pregame show every weekend. Be sure 2732 01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:22,040 Speaker 2: it's a Tune into Fox Sports Radios. Countdown to Kickoff, 2733 01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:25,120 Speaker 2: presented by bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning. We 2734 01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,640 Speaker 2: will count you down to all of the biggest games 2735 01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,200 Speaker 2: for three hours right up until kickoff. For all of 2736 01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:32,480 Speaker 2: the best plays and up to the second injury news. 2737 01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,280 Speaker 2: Tune in to Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM, 2738 01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,960 Speaker 2: every Saturday and Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports 2739 01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:39,800 Speaker 2: Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 2740 01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:45,480 Speaker 5: Speaking of Betton Mark, let's get to it two on 2741 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:53,280 Speaker 5: two on all right, So last week, once again, Kevin 2742 01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:54,000 Speaker 5: went three and one. 2743 01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:55,760 Speaker 2: It's a really deep sigh you took there. 2744 01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:58,760 Speaker 5: I went two and two. Okay, I went two and two. 2745 01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:03,440 Speaker 5: That's pretty good. Oh, Vin went that works on the season. 2746 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:05,760 Speaker 5: I'm nine and eleven. 2747 01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:07,120 Speaker 3: The bomb's lost. 2748 01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:13,360 Speaker 4: It's perfect number for the emergency. I'm happening for nine 2749 01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,720 Speaker 4: and eleven. Is I even that bat, it's not. It's 2750 01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:19,320 Speaker 4: right around five hundred. Go look at Joel klass record. 2751 01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:19,640 Speaker 5: Within the college. 2752 01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,400 Speaker 2: Why Joel, he was catching strays from you this because 2753 01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:23,720 Speaker 2: he ignores your text messages. 2754 01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:25,880 Speaker 3: Kevin. 2755 01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:30,080 Speaker 5: Meanwhile, on the season thirteen and seven. 2756 01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:31,520 Speaker 3: Total ownership at that? 2757 01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:35,440 Speaker 5: All right, Kevin, you want to give me your two ons, 2758 01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:37,200 Speaker 5: your favorite picks for this week. 2759 01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:38,920 Speaker 2: So one of my onw I know, I gassed up 2760 01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:40,520 Speaker 2: the Cardinals a little bit earlier in the show in 2761 01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:42,600 Speaker 2: the six pack, and I still they'll give the Colts 2762 01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:44,000 Speaker 2: a run for their money on Sunday. 2763 01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:45,720 Speaker 5: Oh how much? How much money? 2764 01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:49,520 Speaker 2: While the line is seven, the Colts are a seven 2765 01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,760 Speaker 2: point favorite, and I think that's on and is about right. 2766 01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:54,720 Speaker 2: I think, at worse, I think it might end up 2767 01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:56,760 Speaker 2: being a push. I think that the Cardinals are going 2768 01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:58,400 Speaker 2: to be in at the entire way through. But I 2769 01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,600 Speaker 2: do think that the Colts end up winning by touchdown. 2770 01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:02,520 Speaker 2: Maybe it ends up getting up to eight to ten 2771 01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,640 Speaker 2: points or something like that. So you got the Colts covering, 2772 01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:07,600 Speaker 2: So I do have the Colts covering the covering the 2773 01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:10,000 Speaker 2: seven point spread. Yeah, that is one of my ons. 2774 01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:12,560 Speaker 5: So my cat shadow had that as well. 2775 01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:16,240 Speaker 4: Okay, also picked my guy Indiana Jones and the Colts 2776 01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,440 Speaker 4: to win by more than seven against the Cardinals at 2777 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:20,800 Speaker 4: home after what. 2778 01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:24,480 Speaker 5: They did to the Raiders. I mean, my all right, gone, all. 2779 01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,240 Speaker 2: Right, calm down, speaking of the Raiders, their AFC West 2780 01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:30,360 Speaker 2: mates or across the pond against the Jets. This's the 2781 01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,640 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos seven and a half point favorites. I think 2782 01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:34,840 Speaker 2: that's about right. I think the Broncos with that comeback 2783 01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,800 Speaker 2: victory over the Eagles, maybe finding their stride a little bit. 2784 01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:40,480 Speaker 2: The defense has been amazing all season long to this point. 2785 01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:43,520 Speaker 2: Offense still finding their footing. I know last week in 2786 01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,280 Speaker 2: my under the microscope, I had bo Nix and I 2787 01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,720 Speaker 2: think he performed well, especially in that fourth quarter. So 2788 01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:50,640 Speaker 2: I think the Broncos has seven and a half point 2789 01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,640 Speaker 2: favorites over the reeling Jets in London. Isn't on for me. 2790 01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:57,800 Speaker 5: I wanted to pick that game, but my cat Tuca 2791 01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:01,000 Speaker 5: did not. Ugh Tuca took. 2792 01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:07,480 Speaker 4: The Rams minus seven on the road against the Baltimore Ravens, 2793 01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:10,880 Speaker 4: who are reeling and I think may have one foot 2794 01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,560 Speaker 4: out the door because they got a bye week coming 2795 01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:16,480 Speaker 4: up and they probably think, hey, Lamar gets healthy. Even 2796 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:17,400 Speaker 4: if we're one and five. 2797 01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:19,760 Speaker 5: They still have all these games left against the division 2798 01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:21,760 Speaker 5: to play. I think it won two three kancon for 2799 01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:22,280 Speaker 5: the next week. 2800 01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,720 Speaker 4: No, come on, now Van Exell is not involved like this, right, 2801 01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:28,720 Speaker 4: but I got yeah, I got the Rams covering who 2802 01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:31,600 Speaker 4: basically are coming off their own bye after that Thursday 2803 01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,000 Speaker 4: night lost a tough one when they were favored by 2804 01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:36,440 Speaker 4: eight against the forty nine ers and somehow. 2805 01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:38,360 Speaker 5: Shot themselves in the foot the entire night, some way 2806 01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,720 Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan out coach Sean McVay. 2807 01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,800 Speaker 2: Again, it always happens, except for when it matters most 2808 01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:43,920 Speaker 2: in the MC Championship game. 2809 01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,560 Speaker 5: Those are our ons, our bets on favorites. What about 2810 01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,280 Speaker 5: the dogs? Here are offs Browns. 2811 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,879 Speaker 2: They are six and a half point underdogs against the Steelers. 2812 01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:52,600 Speaker 2: Are pretty much went through why I like the Browns 2813 01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:56,760 Speaker 2: and Dalan Gabriel and yeah, in our previous segment earlier 2814 01:58:57,080 --> 01:58:59,879 Speaker 2: in the show on the six packs, so that Steelers 2815 01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:03,160 Speaker 2: defense has not been good as a representation reputation with States. 2816 01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:05,320 Speaker 2: And I like what Dylan Gabriel and this Browns offense 2817 01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:07,480 Speaker 2: looked like last week in London against the Vikings. So 2818 01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:09,600 Speaker 2: I think the Browns pulled the upset here and end 2819 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:11,960 Speaker 2: up beating the Pittsburgh Steelers. And for my other off, 2820 01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,640 Speaker 2: I got the beating, yes, not just covering beating. I 2821 01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:17,960 Speaker 2: got them actually winning the game. How about that? How 2822 01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:18,400 Speaker 2: about that? 2823 01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:18,920 Speaker 5: All right? 2824 01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:21,920 Speaker 2: I do have the Detroit Lions, who are underdogs for 2825 01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:25,000 Speaker 2: some reason, against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday Night football. 2826 01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:26,760 Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I know the Chiefs are making 2827 01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:28,960 Speaker 2: some strides and are improving, but the Lions have been 2828 01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:31,880 Speaker 2: dominant offensively ever since they struggled against Green Bay on 2829 01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:34,520 Speaker 2: Opening Night. The Chiefs defensively have not been the same 2830 01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:35,240 Speaker 2: team this year. 2831 01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:36,480 Speaker 5: They have no pass rush. 2832 01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,520 Speaker 2: Jared golf whites up that Steve Spagnolo defense, and the 2833 01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:42,760 Speaker 2: Lions win this thing against the Kansas City Chiefs. 2834 01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,040 Speaker 5: On two p's in a pod over here, I also 2835 01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:47,440 Speaker 5: have the Lions plus two and a half points. Is 2836 01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:48,320 Speaker 5: that what you got on it? 2837 01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:49,360 Speaker 2: Yes, it is two and a half. 2838 01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:51,680 Speaker 4: I know they're on the road. They beat them there 2839 01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:53,960 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago in Arrowhead against a better 2840 01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:56,360 Speaker 4: Chiefs team. That was a huge game to start off 2841 01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:58,080 Speaker 4: the season Chiefs. 2842 01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:58,400 Speaker 5: On Ring Night. 2843 01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,040 Speaker 4: That's where the Lions spoiled it right in front of them. 2844 02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:03,320 Speaker 4: In fact, Jared goff is two and zher against Mahomes 2845 02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:04,640 Speaker 4: because he beat him with the Rams. 2846 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,879 Speaker 5: Remember that crazy Monday night game. 2847 02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:08,440 Speaker 2: At the Coliseum when the Rams were still there. I 2848 02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:10,480 Speaker 2: remember that vividly. That was a back and forth game. 2849 02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:14,160 Speaker 5: Like fifty five fifty. Yeah, it was unbelievable. I got 2850 02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:14,680 Speaker 5: the lines too. 2851 02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:16,840 Speaker 2: I think that'll be a pretty entertaining game. I'm not 2852 02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:18,400 Speaker 2: saying that the Lions are going to run the Chiefs 2853 02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,280 Speaker 2: off of the field by any stretch of the imagination, 2854 02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:22,440 Speaker 2: but just looking at how both teams are playing at 2855 02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:25,240 Speaker 2: this point in time, I do think the Detroit Lions, 2856 02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:28,320 Speaker 2: to your point one golf there has their number and two. 2857 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:30,840 Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions, I think, with this victory, might submit 2858 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,000 Speaker 2: themselves maybe the best team. 2859 02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:33,440 Speaker 3: In the NFL. 2860 02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:37,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, they were the number one seed last year. Why not? 2861 02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? All right? 2862 02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:42,280 Speaker 4: My final off here on an underdog. I got the 2863 02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:44,840 Speaker 4: Dolphins plus three and a half. They get the Chargers 2864 02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:47,600 Speaker 4: at home. I don't love it, but I'm doing it. 2865 02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Chargers are going to charge you in Miami. We'll see 2866 02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:51,680 Speaker 2: what happens. Thanks Debris, Thanks to Mark, Thanks to you 2867 02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,240 Speaker 2: for listening. Project in Io. Next on FSR