1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show. On a very special Memorial Day, as 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: we honor the fallen. I hope you are having a 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: wonderful day. I hope you have taken a moment to 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: honor the fallen. You don't have to sit around crying 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: all day, or if you feel like it, you are 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: welcome to sit around crying all day. Prayers for the 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: families who are hurting, uniquely hurting today. Prayers from us 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: to you here on the Jesse Kelly Show. Now, we're 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: gonna finish up with Korea Gere in a few and 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 2: then we're gonna move on start talking some Vietnam. I'm 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: gonna do some more names because there are so many. 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: In fact, I'll get to some names here in a few. 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: Let's do another distinguished Sir of his Cross citation and 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: finish up Korea before I get to that. Because I 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: know we're going to do some Vietnam, We're going to 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: do some global War on terror stuff. I want to 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: caution you against something. It can be tempting. Whether you 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: fought in one of these or lost someone in one 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: of these or maybe you're just an observer of some kind. 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: It can be really really tempting to say things or 23 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: think things like what was it all for? What did 24 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: he die? Was it worth it? But it was it 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: even worth it? Whether it's Korea or whether it's Vietnam 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: or global war on terror, very very very common, very common, 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with questioning that stuff. But I'm 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: here to tell you that's not what this day is 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: for for me, for one, and for two, it could 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: be the most unworthy cause in the world. That doesn't 31 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: at all change the sacrifice. That doesn't at all change 32 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: the bravery. We're here honoring the sacrifice and the courage 33 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: and what these men gave up today. I don't sit 34 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: around because I'm not doing that to myself. I don't 35 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: sit around and beat my head against the wall and 36 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: say it was for nothing. That's garbage. Don't do that 37 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: to yourself. Don't do that to yourself, all right? Another 38 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: one from the Korean War, Thomas J. Barnes from Gasconade, Missouri. 39 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: I hope I'm saying that right. The President of the 40 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: United States takes pride in presenting the Distinguished Service Cross 41 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: posthumously to Thomas J. Barnes, first Lieutenant Infantry, US Army, 42 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: for extraordinary heroism in connection with military operations against an 43 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: armed enemy of the United Nations while serving as executive 44 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: officer of Company K, third Ittalion, seventeenth Infantry Regiment, seventh 45 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: Infantry Division. First Lieutenant Barnes distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism 46 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: in action against enemy aggressor forces at Sakoga, Korea, on 47 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: the ninth of July nineteen fifty three. On that date, 48 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Barnes participated in a counter attack to secure a 49 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: heavily fortified hill, where the company was suddenly halted and 50 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: pinned down by intense artillery, mortar and small arms fire, 51 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: which seriously hampered further product progress and forced them and 52 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: to seek cover. Pause for a moment. Sorry, no disrespect 53 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: to him. I just want to again explain when you're 54 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: fighting in this environment, it's about taking hilltops from the 55 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: enemy and then holding hilltops once you take them, so 56 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: he can't take them from you. In this environment, remember 57 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: that big special we did on World War One in 58 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: the Alps and mountainous environments. Really all environments, but in 59 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: these mountain environments you want the high ground because then 60 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: you look down and you can observe everything the enemy's doing. 61 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: You can set up your artillery pieces, your mortar pieces 62 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: up there and fire down on him. All the advantages 63 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: for the guy who has the hill. So if you 64 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: don't have the heill and he has the hill, you 65 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: have to go take the hill. And then once you 66 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: get the hill, you have to dig in because he's 67 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: coming back to take the hill back from you. That's Korea. 68 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: Obviously there are other parts of it, but that is 69 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: so much of Korea, all right, back to this thing here. 70 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: On that date, Lieutenant Barnes participated in a counterattack to 71 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: secure a heavily fortified hill position when the company was 72 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: suddenly halted and pinned down by intense enemy artillery, mortar, 73 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: and small arms fire, which seriously hampered further progress and 74 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: forced the men to seek cover. Realizing and realizing the 75 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: vulnerability of their position and refusing to take cover, he 76 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: unhesitatingly left his position with utter disregard for his safety, 77 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: moved to a position approximately fifty yards from an enemy bunker. 78 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: From this exposed position, he daringly fired several rounds into 79 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: the enemy bunker, destroying it completely and killing all the occupants. 80 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: The friendly assault forces were thus inspired and encouraged by 81 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Barnes, who, despite enemy fire, moved fearlessly among the men, 82 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: urging them to rout the enemy. Finding the company commander 83 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: a casualty during the ensuing battle in other members of 84 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: the company scattered, he assumed command, quickly reorganized the men 85 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: and resumed the attack, Dominating the critical situation through sheer 86 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: force of heroic example, he led the daring assault up 87 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: the hill, where they were again met with enemy mortar 88 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: grenade in small arms fire, making further advance impossible. Concern 89 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: for the lives of his men, he calmly ordered them 90 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: to withdraw to a trench below the crest of the objective. 91 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: He remained exposed on high ground until all had gained cover, 92 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: then descending and hesit and hastily jumping into the trench below, 93 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: he was hit by an enemy mortar burst that critically 94 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: wounded him and killed several others are though although partially 95 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: blinded and seriously wounded in the left leg, he attempted 96 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: to rise to assist his injured comrades, but collapsed. He 97 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: refused medical aid in evacuation until all others were treated, 98 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: and he later succumbed to his wounds. That's awesome, man, 99 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: that's the kind of man you follow into the mouth 100 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: of hell right there. And how many of these names, 101 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: how many people ever heard of Thomas J. Barnes. You 102 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: just don't think about the names. You don't think about 103 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: the deeds and the men who fought. We're gonna move 104 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: on from Korea. Actually we're going to go to Vietnam next, 105 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: which would be long and heavy. But they called Korea 106 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: the Forgotten War because it is largely forgotten sandwich between 107 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: World War Two, which is famous in Vietnam, which is infamous, 108 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: I suppose, but the Korean War had some of the 109 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: nastiest fighting out there. And you know what's so sad, 110 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: I mean, in a way admirable and awesome, but so 111 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: incredibly sad to me is how many of our guys 112 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: in Korea died who had survived World War Two. There 113 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: were a lot of World War Two veterans. They really 114 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: made up the backbone of the military in Korea because 115 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: we had kicked everyone else out. We had, like I said, 116 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: we were drawing down the military. Everybody leave everyone out, 117 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: everyone out. We don't want to pay for it. But 118 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: these World War two veterans. You know, you want to 119 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: hang on to these guys with all kinds of combat experience. 120 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: So we hung on to so many of these guys, 121 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: and they brought that combat experience with them to World 122 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: War Two. And they were lions out there in World 123 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: War two, organizing our men, getting our men ready, and 124 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: in large part there are big reason why the guys 125 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: who lived lived. Let's do some more names. These are 126 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: world War two names. Lieutenant Colonel Kevin Shea, Corporal Berness Bond, 127 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: Private first class Boyd Kimri, Private Neil Jones, Private Edward Gretsek, 128 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: Private Leo Crambeer, Private Charles Call, First Lieutenant Baker Telau, 129 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Joseph Cardarelli, fire Controlman two, Julian Rudek, Private first class, 130 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: David Scannell, Private first class, James lenn Private first class, 131 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: John Corado, Second Lieutenant, Harold Kohn, Staff Sergeant Ernest Esham, 132 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: Private first class John Prizwara, Sergeant Frank Serone, Staff Sergeant 133 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: Jerome Samberg, Second Lieutenant John Eberhart, Second Lieutenant Niall Surewood, 134 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: Chief water tender, Peter Thomas, Fireman first class, Lester Mayfield, 135 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: Private Charles Campbell, Sergeant Albert Kinser, Private Varden Williams, Private 136 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: first Class Melvin Wyndham, Private first Class Roy good Paster Junior. 137 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: There are a lot more I'm going to get to. First, 138 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: we are going to switch up gears here and we're 139 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: going to talk about another war that it could be 140 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: hard to talk about. I know we have so many 141 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: Vietnam veterans who listen to this show, and that's something 142 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: we take a lot of pride in. So we're going 143 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: to talk some Vietnam, and just a moment before we 144 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 2: do that, I'm going to play a couple more. It's 145 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: from Trump today. I really thought he did wonder. 146 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,119 Speaker 3: In every generation since at Trenton and Yorktown, at Vicksburg 147 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: and Shiloh, and in far away places with names like 148 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: Chateau Terrari, Anzio, Ewo, Jima, k Son, Kandahar. Really just 149 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: a few chosen names, and these are names that have 150 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: become so important on the altar of freedom. They plunged 151 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: into the crucible of battles, stormed into the fires of hell, 152 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: charged into the valley of death, and rose into the 153 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: arms of angels. 154 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: Amen, we were gonna, well, I have a long when 155 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna read MAC v SOG next Jesse Kelly. 156 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: Vaccian. 157 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly's Show on a Memoor Day, 158 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: honoring as many of the following as we can get to, 159 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: and in ways that always seem completely insufficient, but we're 160 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: doing the best we can to honor them in the 161 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: families they left behind. Now, before I get to this reading, 162 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: and I'm about to read something, it's not even a citation, 163 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: but it's like four pages long, so it's gonna take 164 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: me a few minutes to read it. I'm actually stealing 165 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: it as a matter of fact, from these Special Operations 166 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: Memorial Foundation. We'll want to make sure they get credit 167 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: for this. Before I read the writing of this Vietnam veteran, 168 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: and I'm going to read a couple other Vietnam Distinguished 169 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: Service Cross citations, I want to remind you about the 170 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: specific part of Vietnam that had a higher percentage of 171 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: casualties than any other, and that would be MAC the 172 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: song you have heard of Delta Force, right, Yeah, these 173 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: guys were the ogs of that. The guys who actually 174 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: lived through Vietnam were the ones who really guided and 175 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: created so much of that. MACVSOG Military Assistance Command Vietnam 176 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: and then the SAG portions, says Studies, an observation group 177 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: sounds like a bunch of nerds taking pictures, right, except 178 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: they were all killers. The bravest said. They did the 179 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: most ridiculously brave things. I will tell you, every time 180 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: I read about a SOG mission, I'm shocked it was 181 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: allowed for them to do this. And I'm not shocked 182 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: that so many died, way more than half. I mean, 183 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: you just you died. If you went into SG and 184 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: stayed there for long enough, you were going to die. 185 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: Here's what it was. You know Vietnam. It doesn't matter 186 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: whether or not you know Vietnam. You know Vietnam is divided, 187 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: at least at this point in time, in the north 188 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: and South Vietnam. Okay, right, well, on the western side 189 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: side of Vietnam. It always helps. If you look at 190 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: a map, like we always say, look at a map 191 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: on the western side of Vietnam. What do you see 192 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: if you're looking at a map Laos, Cambodia, or at 193 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: least that's what you would have seen back then, Laos 194 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: and Cambodia. We were not at war with Laos or Cambodia. 195 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: Back then Frankly, the Vietnam War wasn't technically either way. 196 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: Laos didn't want American troops in Laos. Cambodia didn't want 197 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: American troops in Cambodia. The Vietnamese, the Vietnamese knew this. 198 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: And remember all their supplies, all their men, they're all 199 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 2: in North Vietnam. But they're trying to defeat South Vietnam. 200 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: So what the North Vietnamese did is they moved their men, 201 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: their trucks, their equipment. We're talking food, bombs, bullets, everything. 202 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: They moved those things in Laos or Cambodia. They went 203 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: west outside of Vietnam. And that you've, of course heard 204 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: of the Ho Chi Minh Trail. It was not one trail, 205 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: that's ridiculous, don't ever think of it that way. It 206 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: was a gigantic, essentially highway in trail system that was 207 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: always being rebuilt and carved up that went through Laos 208 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: and Cambodia, so they could move everything down south, and 209 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: they thought we couldn't touch them. It didn't take us 210 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: long to figure out. It didn't take us long to 211 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: figure out what exactly we were dealing with here. We 212 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: were dealing with something that had to be dealt with. 213 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: I know that's a terrible way to put it. That's 214 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: a terrible, terrible way to put it. But we had 215 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: to do something about all the men in equipment moving south. 216 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: The military came up with an idea, let's take some 217 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: green berets. There were seals involved too as well. I 218 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: want to make sure they obviously get credit. And we 219 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: have to make it all volunteer because it'll be so 220 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: dangerous and so many will die. But we will send 221 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: smaller teams into these areas to observe where the trucks are, 222 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: where the highway, where are the men betting down? Where 223 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: are they eating? Because they would start bases right there 224 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: were base camps along the way. And then because we 225 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: can't send in a large group of ground troops, what 226 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: we can do is fly some planes in there and 227 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: bomb it to smithereens go observe. And they did so 228 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: much more. But they were always, in every sense of 229 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: the word, behind enemy lines and deep in enemy territory, 230 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: and they had look, there wasn't much that could help them. 231 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: They had air that would fly above them, usually in 232 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: like a piper cup, like a small plane, and they 233 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: would talk to him and he would try to call 234 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: in airstrikes when they needed them, and they always needed them. 235 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: They would try to call in attack helicopters, cobras, gunships 236 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: when they needed them, and they always needed them because 237 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: they were always being hunted. It didn't take the North Vietnamese. 238 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: This is a very capable army as well. That didn't 239 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: take the North Vietnamese long to figure out, we have 240 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: a small group of specialists who keep landing here and 241 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: they're blowing things up, and they're causing trouble for us. 242 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: They're kidnapping people. We were doing prisoner snatches, assassinating people 243 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: that we have to get them. And so the North 244 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: Vietnamese trained some hunter killer counter recon groups who would 245 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: watch these guys land. We would monitor, they would monitor 246 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: where our guys were going to land, and then they 247 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: would send out these hunter killer teams to go hunt 248 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: down our guys and our guys and I'm about there. 249 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm explaining this because I'm about to read it. It 250 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: gets laid out for you in this writing. Our guys 251 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: would sometimes land and they'd be on the run almost immediately, 252 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: calling we need to get out of here now, and 253 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: they're calling in airstrikes and everything's raining down around them, 254 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: and everybody's dying all around them all the time, insane 255 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: levels of bravery in SAE. I can't honestly again, it's 256 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: so dangerous. I can't believe they allowed people to do it. 257 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: But this went on for years, the Secret War in Vietnam. 258 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: And I'm about to read you the story of a Lion. 259 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: Next the Jesse Kelly Show on air and online at 260 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Jesse Kellyshow dot com. 261 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday, a 262 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: Memorial Day, and I can't tell you to email me 263 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: the names still, even though we're live here, there are 264 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: just so many to get to and I'm not gonna 265 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: be able to get to any more than we currently have. 266 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: But if you want to email the show, you are 267 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: welcome to. Maybe we'll save him from next year. Jesse 268 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: at Jesse Kellyshow dot com. Now, I just gave you 269 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: just a brief, a brief recap of what MACVI SAG 270 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: did in Vietnam. This is something I'm about to read 271 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: to you. These are not my words. I don't want 272 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: to take credit for them. This is from the Special 273 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: Operations Memorial Foundation. Do you want to hear what the 274 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: saw guys? Did and why so many died. It's like 275 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: four pages, so you're gonna have to stay with me, 276 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: but listen to this. His name is John J. Kendenberg. 277 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: Specialist five. Kendenberg distinguished himself on the thirteenth of June 278 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty eight while serving with Command and Control North 279 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: Forward Operating Base two as an advisor to a long 280 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: range reconnaissance patrol of South Vietnamese irregular troops. Pause on 281 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: this sorry, the MACV saw guys would generally go out 282 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: and there would be only two or three Americans in 283 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: the group. Those would be the stud green Beret types. 284 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: And then we brought out indigenous troops, either Chinese mountain 285 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: tribes or Vietnamese mountain tribes that we trained, and we 286 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: brought indigenous troops with us. You're gonna hear that referred 287 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: to in this story. The team's mission was to conduct 288 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: counter guerrilla operations deep within enemy held territory. Prior to 289 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: reaching the day's objective. The team was attacked and encircled 290 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: by a battalion sized North Vietnamese Army Force. Specialist five 291 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: Kendenberg assumed immediate command of the team, which succeeded after 292 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: a fierce fight in breaking out of the encirclement. As 293 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: the team moved through the thick jungle to a position 294 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: from which it could be extracted by helicopter, Specialist five 295 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: Kendenberg conducted a gallant rear guard fight against the pursuing 296 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: enemy and called for tactical air support and rescue helicopters. 297 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: His withering fire against the enemy permitted the team to 298 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: reach a pre he selected landing zone with the loss 299 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: of only one man, who was unaccounted for. Once in 300 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: the landing zone, Specialist five Kennenbergh deployed the team into 301 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: a perimeter defense against the numerically superior enemy force. Just 302 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: the heads up, he's probably facing one thousand men, okay, 303 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: So when tactical air support arrived, he skillfully directed airstrikes 304 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: against the enemy, suppressing their fires so that helicopters could 305 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 2: hover over the area and drop slings to be used 306 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: in the extraction team. About half the team pause, they 307 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: would drop slings and you would clip onto it and 308 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: then the helo would lift you out. They would drop 309 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: slings or ladders if the helo couldn't get all the 310 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 2: way down anyway. After half the team was extracted by 311 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: a helicopter Specialist five Kennenberg and the remaining three members 312 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 2: of the team harnessed themselves to a sling on a 313 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: second hovering helicopter. Just as the helicopter was about to 314 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: lift them out of the area, the South Vietnamese team member, 315 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 2: who had been unaccounted for after the initial encounter with 316 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: the enemy, appeared at the landing zone. Specialist five Kendenberg 317 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: unhesitatingly gave up his place in the sling to the 318 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: man and directed the helicopter pilot to leave the area. 319 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: He then continued to engage the enemy who were swarming 320 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: into the landing zone, killing six enemy soldiers before he 321 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: was overpowered. Specialist five kenn birds inspiring leadership, consummate courage, 322 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: and willing self sacrifice permitted his small team to inflict 323 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: heavy casualties on the enemy and escape almost certain annihilation. 324 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: His actions reflect great credit upon himself in the US Army. 325 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: Shall I keep going? You know what? No, We'll stop 326 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: on that one for now, because there are other ones 327 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: I want to get to. You are dropped. This happened 328 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: a lot one story I read. You see, there were 329 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 2: rec on teams and then there were hatchet force teams. 330 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: There were different kinds of teams, but the recon teams 331 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: were in general reconnaissance. Hatchet force teams were more search 332 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: and destroy stuff, but we'll focus on the recon teams. 333 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: The recon teams oftentimes had the name of US states. 334 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: They would be Recon you know, RT Rhode Island, RT Illinois, 335 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: something like that. I believe it was RT New Mexico. 336 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: A guy was talking about how he had just got 337 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: to Vietnam. He just got into Soog and he was 338 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: attached to RT New Mexico and he had trained with 339 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 2: URT New Mexico and he was about to go on 340 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: his first mission with RT New Mexico. And right as 341 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: he's about to get on the helicopter, somebody who'd been 342 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: previously injured showed up and said, hey, new guy, you're 343 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: sitting this one out. I'm on the team. New guy 344 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: sits it out. He's all bummed. OURT New Mexico took 345 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: off in their heroes. All Dead that night. All Dead 346 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: that night happened all the time. You land behind enemy line, 347 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: I don't care how tough you are. It's ten men. 348 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: You've got ten men, maybe they've got a thousand. They're 349 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 2: swarming you. You're dead all the time, and think about 350 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: the bravery it takes to give up your spot on 351 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: the helicopter. There's not another one you are. You are 352 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: giving up your life right then and there when they 353 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: are swarming your position and there's one spot left on 354 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: the helo and you get out and grab your buddy 355 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: and you say, you take my spot, you live, I 356 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: will die. These are the kind of people we honor today. 357 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: That's incredible. Let's do some more names. These are Vietnam names, 358 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: all of them. Private first Class Douglas Winschel, Junior Major 359 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: Robert Forshay, Hospital Corman three Winston Parker, First Lieutenant, Lance Workman, 360 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: Captain Fred Jackson, Lance Corporal Went Wheat, Sergeant Orville Fritz, 361 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: Private first Class Philip Michael Callen, Captain Donald Kilpatrick, Specialist 362 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: Thomas Fitzpatrick, Lieutenant Colonel Randolph Perry, First Lieutenant Charles Wyatt, 363 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: Chief warrant Officer, Too Kenneth Messinger, specialist for Robert Lee, 364 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: specialist for David Nelson, Captain Wilburn Gideon, Corporal Dale Gunnell, 365 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: Corporal Walter Wickett, Sergeant Chris Peebler, Captain Peter Clearly, Lance 366 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: Corporal Robert McCluskey, specialist for Charles Charles mccongall, First Lieutenant 367 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: Charles Wyatt, Corporal Wetzel Ramsay, Sergeant Hugh Sexton, Sergeant Tony England, 368 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: First Sergeant Luis Pelsari, Airman first class, David Birch, Private 369 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: first class Robert Araujo, First Lieutenant Charles Wyatt, Staff Sergeant 370 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: Charles Knapp, Private first class Dan Bullock, specialist for Robert Boycourt, 371 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: Corporal Charles McMahon, Lance Corporal Darwin Judge, Sergeant Kent Longmire, 372 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: Sergeant Michael Mean, Corporal Terry Kawamura, Corporal Edward Cox, Private 373 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: Steve Runyon, Private first class Robert Cook, First Lieutenant John Schaeffer, 374 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: Second Lieutenant Ralph Avery, Major Francis Fenel, Lieutenant Steve Olson, 375 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: Lance Corporal David Cutshaw, First Lieutenant Daniel Kershgeisler, Sergeant Claude Gibbons, 376 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: Master Sergeant Errol Bachmann. Specialist for Kenneth Kreuz Kruts, probably Cruts, 377 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: Chief warrant Officer Michael Luke, Corporal James Cain, Corporal Eric Johnson, 378 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: Major John Oldman, Private first class Ronald Williams, Lance Corporal 379 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: Jerry Phillips. We'll do a couple more Vietnam things, and 380 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: then we'll move on, maybe do some global War on 381 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: Terror things. Read some more names as we chop away 382 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: at things here. Probably I probably want to play what 383 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: Pete hag Seth had to say about the story of 384 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: the Unknown the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers. Not well, 385 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: whatever I want I want you to hear from Pete 386 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: hagg says mouth, and then we'll get back to some 387 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 2: more Vietnam stuff next. 388 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: Feeling a little stocky, follow like and subscribe on social 389 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: at Jesse Kelly's show. 390 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday, a 391 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: Memorial Day, more importantly, and we are doing the best 392 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: we can to honor the fallen in a very small 393 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: way on the show today, trying to tell their stories 394 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: and the conflicts and what they went through. Now, this 395 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: is long, and I am not going to interrupt it. 396 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: It's way longer than anything I normally play uninterrupted. But 397 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense Pete hag Seth told a tale. Listen 398 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: to it. 399 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: We gather here to honor our very best gone in 400 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: their youth, to properly do so we understand who they 401 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 4: are and what they fought for. It is our simple 402 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 4: duty to them in America, with our great experiment in 403 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: self government. It is fitting that the most honored and 404 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 4: closely guarded tomb in the land is that of an 405 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: anonymous soldier of an unknown rank. When the tomb was 406 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: dedicated on November eleventh, Veteran's Day, the unknown received the 407 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: Medal of Honor. It's a uniquely American tradition that we 408 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: honor anonymous sacrifice above worldly greatness. While we don't know 409 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: the Unknown's identity, race, or creed, we know his story. 410 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 4: It's the story of every soldier, every warrior. It's a 411 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: simple story as old as war. A young man with 412 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: hopes and dreams and loves who's called by his country 413 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 4: leaves behind his hometown, his parents, his siblings, his sweetheart, 414 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 4: all that he knows to go fight a war that 415 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 4: ye may or may not understand. He's called to go 416 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 4: through helen back, to sleep in a trench, to eat 417 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: out of a tin cup or on the hood of 418 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 4: a hum v to pray as bullets and bombs thunder 419 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: around him, to fear for the bullet or the mortar, 420 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: or the ied or the RPG with his name on it. 421 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: He does it willingly and stoically because he loves his country, 422 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: his brothers in arms, and his family. This is the 423 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: story of the unknown, the story of the fallen soldier 424 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 4: who we have gathered today to honor. It is the 425 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: story of the American warrior. He answered the call, fought 426 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 4: and died for this republic, the ultimate sacrifice of a 427 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: free people. 428 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to play that because I wanted to talk 429 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: to you really quickly before I do a couple more 430 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: Vietnam things, specifically about the MIA. The missing in action 431 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: portion of this. This is very, very hard. It's hard 432 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: enough for families, but this portion of it is brutally hard. 433 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes the bodies don't come back, things happen in war, 434 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: Bodies get blown to bits taken lost. And even though oftentimes, 435 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: for instance Vietnam, if someone went missing an action Vietnam 436 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: still classified as Michigan action Vietnam, obviously that person is 437 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: very likely not still with us today. That person probably 438 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: died that day in the jungle, somewhere, died gone, who knows. 439 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: But the family that's already suffering doesn't even get the 440 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: closure of knowing. Don't even get the closure of knowing. 441 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: You don't know. And I just wanted to say a 442 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: special prayer for those people. Keep them in your prayers. 443 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: There are people out there right now listening to the 444 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: sound of my voice that are going through this, have 445 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: gone through this unknown. How hard is that unknown? They 446 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: don't even know who it was. Sometimes you can't identify it. 447 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: That's how it goes. It's not a clean or wonderful 448 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: thing at all. Let's do another Distinguished Service Cross Vietnam 449 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: for Eugene J. Connor, Cumberland, Iowa. The President of the 450 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: United States takes pride in presenting the Distinguished Service Cross 451 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: posthumously to Eugene Joseph Conner, Major Artillery, US Army for 452 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: extraordinary heroism in connection with military operations involving conflict with 453 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: an armed hostile force in the Republic of Vietnam while 454 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: serving with Advisory Team one hundred Capital Military District Advisory Detachment, 455 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: United States Army Advisory Group, United States Military Assistance Command, Vietnam. 456 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: Major Connor distinguished himself by exceptionally valorous actions on the 457 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: thirty first of January nineteen sixty eight, while serving as 458 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: a member of an advisory team during enemy attacks on Saigon, 459 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: when he was informed that a truck carrying twenty military 460 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 2: policemen had been savagely ambushed in an alley in Jia Dinn, 461 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: and all the soldiers had been killed or wounded. Major 462 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: Connor immediately moved to the battle site and volid tiered 463 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: to assist in rescuing the trap victims. The Viet Cong 464 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: were firmly entrenched in buildings along the alley and had 465 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: set up a fierce crossfire with rockets and automatic weapons. 466 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: Completely disregarding his own personal safety, Major Connor led a 467 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: small party through the curtain of fire to reach the 468 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: trapped men, ignoring bullets striking all around him. He helped 469 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: carry the wounded men to safety and then volunteered to 470 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: lead a sweeping force to clear the hostile positions. Intense 471 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: enemy fire erupted from a nearby building and stalled the 472 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: advance of the friendly troops, so Major Connor and one 473 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: other man fearlessly charged the fortifications alone. As he neared 474 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: the building, he was instantly killed by a Viet Kong rocket. 475 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: His gallant and fearless leadership in the face of great 476 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: odds was responsible for saving several lives and inspired him 477 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: his men to fight furiously in the heat of battle. 478 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: Major Connor's extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty at the 479 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: cost of his life. We're in keeping with the highest 480 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: traditions of military service and reflect great credit upon himself 481 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: his unit in the United States Army. We're gonna do 482 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: a couple more Vietnam ones here in just a moment. 483 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: Before I get to that, I want to do just 484 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: some more names. I want to do some Afghanistan names here. 485 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: Corporal Mark Goyat, Chief Warren Officer IIE, Matthew Ruffner, Chief 486 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: Warren Officer two, Jared Yoder, Major Ray Estelle, Second Lieutenant, 487 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Justin Sisson, Sergeant Bradley Cross, Private first Class Matthew Bertolino, 488 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: Staff Sergeant Michael Bach, Specialist Jesse Snow, Staff Sergeant Thomas 489 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: walk Up, Junior Captain Matthew Ferrara, Corporal David Sonka, Captain 490 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: Nick Razanski, Master Sergeant John Chapman, Specialist Ronald Windrick, Specialist 491 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: Pat Tillman, Junior First Lieutenant Jonathan Brostrom, First Lieutenant Jason Man. 492 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 2: We will do some more Vietnam, touch on some Global 493 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: War on tear things, and read some more names in 494 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: our final hour on Memorial Day. Hang on