WEBVTT - The Royal Formerly Known as Prince Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It is Saturday, November first, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Royal formerly known as Prince is waking up today for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time as just good old Andrew. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this it now? Prince Andrew is no longer Prince Andrew?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the ultimate humiliation?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Is the answer. That is the absolute answer. He is

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<v Speaker 3>now Andrew mount Baton Windsor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was one thing too, or at least for

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<v Speaker 3>him to voluntarily give up the Duke of York.

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<v Speaker 1>Title, which is just what a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's another thing completely to have your own brother,

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<v Speaker 3>the king strip you not only of Prince Andrew but

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<v Speaker 3>also I mean, he was known as the Earl of Inverness,

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<v Speaker 3>the Baron Killiele, a Night Grand Cross of the Royal

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<v Speaker 3>Victorian Order. He was the Royal Knight, companion of the

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<v Speaker 3>most Noble Order of the Garter. He lost everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, nobody gives a damn or I ever heard about

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<v Speaker 1>any of those others. I don't know how big of

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<v Speaker 1>a deal they are in over the UK. But Prince Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>he could have given up everything. This was the one

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about was his birth right simply by who

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<v Speaker 1>his mama is. Prince is not going to be taken

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<v Speaker 1>away from you. I'm trying to find rogues, the proper context,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe it needs to be historical, the proper context

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<v Speaker 1>were how big of a deal it is just for

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<v Speaker 1>this to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So the last time a royal was stripped of his

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<v Speaker 3>title was more than one hundred years ago. It was

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<v Speaker 3>back in nineteen seventeen a prince had his title removed

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<v Speaker 3>when Prince Charles Edward, that was one of Queen Victoria's grandsons.

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<v Speaker 3>He had the title Duke of Albany Well. It was

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<v Speaker 3>stripped from him by the British Parliament after he fought

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<v Speaker 3>in World War One for Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, okay, so he was in Nazi.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he was essentially a trader. And that's the last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody correct, but that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the last time someone was stripped a royal was

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<v Speaker 3>stripped of their title.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a big deal for that reason. The

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<v Speaker 1>next step with that that was parliament. How difficult is

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<v Speaker 1>that and how does this add to this story and

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<v Speaker 1>the devastation of it. That is his brother who was

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course I mean, look, the royal family has been

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with this, even between brothers Prince William and Prince Harry,

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<v Speaker 3>which is incredibly sad given what happened of course to

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<v Speaker 3>their mother, that those two had each other no matter what,

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<v Speaker 3>and to see that separation happen is really, really, really sad.

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<v Speaker 3>So Prince Harry's no longer a working royal and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that, and now to have this happen between Queen

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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth's own sons and her grandsons, I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, obviously she's passed.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's probably a good thing in the sense that

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<v Speaker 3>no one could ever imagine wanting to witness the division

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<v Speaker 3>like that severe between brothers and then between grandsons who

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<v Speaker 3>are brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, that's tough, that's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>That's hard in any family, especially in a family where

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<v Speaker 3>everyone is looking too and.

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<v Speaker 1>Towards Okay, and we're talking about it. I guess on

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<v Speaker 1>a human level, there's a human there's an emotion there

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<v Speaker 1>that that's family, that's blood. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people say a whole lot more should happen to Prince

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<v Speaker 1>former Prince Andrew than just having the title prince taken away.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe he should be prosecuted. They believe he does

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to be in prison. They believe he's a monster

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<v Speaker 1>who actually prayed on kids. Correct, Let's be clear here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a guy who's accused of sexual assault

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<v Speaker 1>on children, a child molester, alongside Jeffrey Epstein. It's to

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<v Speaker 1>that level. So I don't want to get lost here

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<v Speaker 1>about oh so sweet family motions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this isn't a Yes, that's a very good point.

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<v Speaker 3>And there is a group specifically, an anti monarchy group

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<v Speaker 3>called Republican Republic excuse me, and they are leading the

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<v Speaker 3>charge for Andrew to face criminal charges. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>what they said in response to King Charles's decision to

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<v Speaker 3>strip Andrew of the title Prince, among all the other

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<v Speaker 3>titles he's lost, they said, let's be very clear, Prince

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew now Andrew Mountain Baton Windsor is not facing justice.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not being held to account. Losing silly titles is

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<v Speaker 3>not an answer to very serious accusations of sexual offenses

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<v Speaker 3>and corruption in public office.

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<v Speaker 1>Silly titles. I think that was a nice thing to

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<v Speaker 1>throw in there. Big deal. It's kind of what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knew he was a part of all this stuff. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that prince is a big deal. He's being

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<v Speaker 1>kicked out of the royal family and robes. He's literally

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<v Speaker 1>been kicked out of his house to that point. Now

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<v Speaker 1>again it's public humiliation. I know they wanted to go farther,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is I don't know how many more blows

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<v Speaker 1>he can take after this. This is the ultimate one

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<v Speaker 1>and this is it short of prosecution. Yes, for me, when.

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<v Speaker 3>He got served eviction papers, that was the big oh wow,

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<v Speaker 3>even more so than the titles. And that's just from

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<v Speaker 3>my American perspective. It's one thing to take a title

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<v Speaker 3>away from your brother. It's another thing to say and

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<v Speaker 3>now get the hell out. That felt extra ouch. And

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, when you kick Andrew out, you also

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<v Speaker 3>have to kick for Yepp. She's been living with Andrew

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<v Speaker 3>for the past twenty years, despite their divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of folks in Great Britain and the UK

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<v Speaker 3>have been complaining about this because he's no longer a

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<v Speaker 3>working royal, he hasn't been for a while, and yet

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<v Speaker 3>he's living there. Basically it seems as though it's been

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<v Speaker 3>rent free. No one's been able to point to any

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<v Speaker 3>actual payment of rent he's made while living there, and

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<v Speaker 3>certainly that is the people's residence as well, because this

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<v Speaker 3>is all tax dollars fund the Royal family in this

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<v Speaker 3>particular situation where they were so yeah, to have him

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<v Speaker 3>now be booted out of that residence is a huge,

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<v Speaker 3>huge deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't he moving though? Isn't he moving to a private another?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a private residence, but it's still a family residence,

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<v Speaker 1>is the right correct?

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<v Speaker 3>So Andrew is moving out of Royal Lodge, but he

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<v Speaker 3>is moving into or onto a property on the Sandringham,

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<v Speaker 3>a state that's about one hundred miles north of London.

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<v Speaker 2>It's privately owned by the British.

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<v Speaker 3>Monarch, so it's not a member of or it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a part of any of their public assets. So his

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<v Speaker 3>new accommodation I think it's like twenty thousand acres. So

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<v Speaker 3>there are several different places where he could end up

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<v Speaker 3>living or moving into. But they claim he will be

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<v Speaker 3>privately funded by King Charles himself, like he will actually

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<v Speaker 3>get an allowance from King Charles and he will actually

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<v Speaker 3>be living there at the King's private preference.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean that's his brother. I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, he's never been found guilty of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>He has denied any allegation from start to finish. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's his life going to be? How is

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<v Speaker 1>he going to live out his day? He's got two daughters, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and they say even though and by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice, they are not affected in

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<v Speaker 3>any way. Their titles remain intact. They are still in

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<v Speaker 3>good standing so to speak, with the royal family. But

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<v Speaker 3>still to have your father publicly called out like this

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<v Speaker 3>and humiliated, to have your mother being kicked out of

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<v Speaker 3>the home she's lived in for the past twenty years,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't believe that this won't have some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>impact on they're feeling about fitting in or being around

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<v Speaker 3>Charles and William, who most believe William actually had a

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<v Speaker 3>huge impact on his father, the King, on making these decisions,

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<v Speaker 3>these tough decisions about Andrew. And so it'd be hard

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<v Speaker 3>to imagine that there wouldn't be some sort of underlying tension.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just got to be tough going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>At any family function and people, there will be cameras,

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<v Speaker 3>people will be watching, people will be looking at facial expressions.

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<v Speaker 3>This will be watched closely.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of remember I thought there was something what

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<v Speaker 1>they did announced where the limited times he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be welcomed to some things. I can't remember which. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it might have been one or maybe it tops

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<v Speaker 1>two events a year that he's actually welcome to come

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<v Speaker 1>to and be a part of the family. Man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that family. Just it's it's always a mess and a

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<v Speaker 1>scandal here or there. I mean the scrutiny there under.

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<v Speaker 1>You can imagine in the fascination we all have with

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<v Speaker 1>them and the tabloids there we talk about Tabloyd's here

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<v Speaker 1>they are the originators.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh there's nothing more brutal or just more thorough, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, than a British tabloid.

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<v Speaker 1>So with all that, it's just it's sad sometimes and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most you can look at it is

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment to a certain degree for a lot of folks.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is still a family. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>most heartbreaking part was the boys. Man, to see the

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<v Speaker 1>boys not doing well, it's tough, Eric William not okay,

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<v Speaker 1>after all that the world put their alms around those boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's really sad anytime you see family members either

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<v Speaker 3>fighting or unable to stick up for one another. It's

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<v Speaker 3>tough to watch, certainly, And in terms of what's next

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<v Speaker 3>for Andrew, I think most people believe he will just

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<v Speaker 3>go off into the sunset and perhaps not be heard

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<v Speaker 3>from or seen much. Again, some are calling for more

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<v Speaker 3>action to be taken, though you know, I didn't realize this.

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<v Speaker 2>There are even.

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<v Speaker 3>Streets named after Andrew all throughout the UK. Ireland in particular,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a Prince Andrew Way, there is in Belfast a

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<v Speaker 3>Prince Andrew Park, a Prince Andrew Gardens, Prince Andrew Crescent,

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<v Speaker 3>and some of these signs have been defaced.

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<v Speaker 2>In recent years.

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<v Speaker 3>So now there's a big call to have all of

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<v Speaker 3>these streets remab But there isn't a Prince Andrew anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't exist, So that would make a lot of sense,

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<v Speaker 3>all right. Well, when we come back look the timing

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<v Speaker 3>of all of this, Yes, that's a little bit confusing

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<v Speaker 3>in a way because obviously we've been talking about Andrew's

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<v Speaker 3>connection to Jeffrey Epstein now for years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 3>Why now all of this sudden focus on Andrew's role

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<v Speaker 3>in this scandal. Well, there was a book that came

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<v Speaker 3>out just last week and now Virginia Giuffrey's family is

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<v Speaker 3>speaking out about all of the reaction and all that's

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<v Speaker 3>happened to Prince Andrew. We continue our conversation about the

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<v Speaker 3>fall of Andrew, formerly known as Prince Andrew. I always

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<v Speaker 3>think about the artists formally known as Prince and then

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<v Speaker 3>I think, we know we're talking about Andrew or the

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<v Speaker 3>guy formally known as Prince.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to get it write a couple because you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say the prince formally.

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<v Speaker 2>Known as well or the artist formally known as Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>The royal formally known is he still a He is

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<v Speaker 1>still a royal.

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<v Speaker 3>He was born into the royal family, so he is

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<v Speaker 3>a royal. He's just no longer a prince, so he

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<v Speaker 3>is moving out. But this was such an emotional last

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<v Speaker 3>few days for the family members of Virginia Roberts Giuffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>She was the original.

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<v Speaker 3>She was the young woman who stood up and was

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<v Speaker 3>courageous and pointed the finger not only directly at Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 3>but specific at Prince Andrew. And she's the one who

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<v Speaker 3>put that photo forward that showed him with his arm

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<v Speaker 3>around her. She says she was just seventeen years old

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<v Speaker 3>at the time. When she claims that she was sexually

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<v Speaker 3>assaulted by him, basically passed off handed over to him

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<v Speaker 3>by Jeffrey Epstein, and she said it happened three times,

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<v Speaker 3>and she went into great detail in her posthumous memoir

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<v Speaker 3>that was released earlier this month, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>that focus and refocus went back to Andrew, and we

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<v Speaker 3>finally saw the royal family stand up and make decisions

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<v Speaker 3>that they had not made for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait did he because he came out himself and said

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<v Speaker 1>he was giving up all of his titles. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the timing with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Book, Oh, it was around the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Before after, it was during the reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>It was before the book came out, but excerpts had

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<v Speaker 3>already been released. Several media outlets already had pre release

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<v Speaker 3>copies and were already writing about the role of Andrew.

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<v Speaker 2>That he was mentioned.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it was eighty times over a four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>page book, so they knew, they knew it was coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Details and certain aspects of this story that were just

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<v Speaker 3>going to be heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>And in his statement at the time, he again denied

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<v Speaker 1>that he had he did anything, but he came off

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<v Speaker 1>looking like it was for the good of the family.

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<v Speaker 3>He yes, his whole and I think this was an

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<v Speaker 3>attempt by the royal family. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people believe this was They were trying to get ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of it. They knew it was coming, they knew the

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<v Speaker 3>renewed scrutiny was coming, and so they thought, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew steps up, doesn't admit any wrongdoing, but at least

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledges that there were some bad choices by him and

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<v Speaker 3>decided to voluntarily for the good of the family, for

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<v Speaker 3>the good of the royals, not be referred to as

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<v Speaker 3>Duke of York anymore, that that would satiate this public

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<v Speaker 3>demand for some sort of accountability or justice.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't work, and I think.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we saw it was they made a couple

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<v Speaker 3>different attempts to soften the blow, but ultimately this was

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<v Speaker 3>the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, is there going to be a push for

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<v Speaker 1>more now? Right? Because he gave up all of those titles.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason he didn't give up friends He couldn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>was his birthright. Parliament could do it, or it would

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<v Speaker 1>take an act like the King has now done. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was nothing more to be done. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>some people yelled at the time, no, he should prince

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<v Speaker 1>should be taken away. Okay, now that's taken away. Well

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<v Speaker 1>they see this as a victory and go asked for more.

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<v Speaker 3>They may, and there already are people doing it. It'll

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<v Speaker 3>just depend on how loud those voices get. But just

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<v Speaker 3>remember King Charles's move to strip him, to strip Andrew

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<v Speaker 3>of his title of prints comes just a week after

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia Jeffrey's book was released, Nobody's Girl, and the family

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<v Speaker 3>of Virginia jew Ray has reacted.

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<v Speaker 2>Her brother Sky Roberts.

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<v Speaker 3>Has been all over the television camera saying Virginia should

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<v Speaker 3>be here, she should be the one speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>But here was their official statement.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, an ordinary American girl from an ordinary American family

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<v Speaker 3>brought down a British prince with her truth and extraordinary courage.

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<v Speaker 3>Our sister, a child when she was sexually assaulted by Andrew,

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<v Speaker 3>never stopped fighting for accountability for what had happened to

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<v Speaker 3>her and to countless other survivors like her. Today she

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<v Speaker 3>declares victory.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you know what I that victory part at the end?

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<v Speaker 1>Why why does she have to die? I mean, why

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<v Speaker 1>the book a dead woman's book and now somebody acted?

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<v Speaker 1>What was it? I mean, I don't get She's been

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<v Speaker 1>saying this stuff for a long time, a long long time.

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<v Speaker 1>She's dead. Now posthumously a book comes out. You know what, now,

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<v Speaker 1>now we'll take it seriously. I don't know what's new,

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<v Speaker 1>what's different? What did the royal family find out about him?

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<v Speaker 1>That they didn't know?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>They still probably know more than we do what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It just it makes you feel.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes me feel sick to my stomach that someone

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<v Speaker 3>as beautiful as Virginia who went into hiding. She went

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<v Speaker 3>to Australia to get away from Jeffrey Epstein, to get

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<v Speaker 3>away from powerful men who she knew owned her in

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<v Speaker 3>a way, and she found out time and time again

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<v Speaker 3>that when she did speak up, she only put herself

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<v Speaker 3>in danger. She didn't she wasn't believed. To know that

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<v Speaker 3>she's believed now after such a huge price has been paid,

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<v Speaker 3>is so gutting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>And to know how loudly she was speaking, how proudly

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<v Speaker 3>she was speaking, how bravely she was doing it, and

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<v Speaker 3>to still have ultimately succumbed to the pressure, the bullying,

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<v Speaker 3>the fear, all of the things that she lived with.

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<v Speaker 2>It ended up being.

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<v Speaker 3>Her undoing but I don't know to have her. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't imagine what it would be like to be her brother,

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<v Speaker 3>her family members to recognize how big of a deal

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<v Speaker 3>this is and how sad it is that she isn't

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<v Speaker 3>here to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's right, the trade off. I would prefer her

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<v Speaker 1>be here and him still be a prince.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I still would prefer that it shouldn't take her death

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<v Speaker 1>before somebody pays attention to what she was saying. That

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<v Speaker 1>part after the fact stuff and victory, and I get

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<v Speaker 1>what they're saying and why, but this is the victory

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't come at the cost of her life. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all that far sucks. We were talking about the chess

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<v Speaker 1>player recently that died they think possibly by suicide. And

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<v Speaker 1>now everybody's now to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do something about the bullying and wanting to do something

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<v Speaker 3>about calling people on their bullying tactics.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing about the stories of change other than somebody's dead

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<v Speaker 1>and now we can pay attention. That's tough.

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<v Speaker 3>It is tough, but there are so many lessons here,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the.

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<v Speaker 3>First time in more than a century we have seen

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<v Speaker 3>something like this happen in the royal family.

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<v Speaker 2>It is certainly worth noting.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, I know it might be too little, too late,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is at least good to see there being

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of accountability taking place. It might not be

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<v Speaker 3>the perfect way or actual justice, but it's something and

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<v Speaker 3>it was significant.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that, everyone, thank you so much for listening

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<v Speaker 2>to us. I'm Amy Robock alongside Tjilmes. We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you soon.