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Speaker 3: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger and

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Speaker 3: I love today's guest. I think you're going to have

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Speaker 3: It's Cako againa CaCO Hi pressure. Welcome to. I said,

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Speaker 2: I feel very welcome your intro. Relaxed me. I'm listening

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Speaker 3: Anyagram? It's the uh complete guide to psychological and spiritual

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Speaker 3: words that you'll read online or in books or whatever,

439
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: but never have an opportunity to say so, I've always

440
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: and it's kind of a scary word. I want. It's

441
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: like a test. Yeah, it's like where are we going

442
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 3: once we get the past? The two ends? It's like

443
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: it could be ah yeah, or it could be eh ah,

444
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 3: but that anyagram, it's probably what you should just assume

445
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: any A Graham.

446
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: It's nine and symbol Greek Greek nine. And I read

447
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: that if you read the book, it's in there. Okay.

448
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I've obviously heard about the different personality types.

449
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: I'm vaguely familiar. But I want you to just speak

450
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: on this for a moment. So as to why you

451
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 3: brought this, Oh, sure.

452
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: Well, so it's one of the things that I'm obsessed

453
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: with and I can't stop thinking about what number of

454
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 2: people are. So that's why I brought it, right, But

455
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: also I have this idea. It didn't quite work, but

456
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: I had this idea that while I was listening to

457
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: you your podcast, I would a doodle on which number

458
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: I thought you were here. Yes, oh my god, it's yeah.

459
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: So if you if you.

460
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: Okay, we're opening it up. Let's see here. Oh, I'm

461
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: seeing some towards the back. Here, let's see.

462
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: You passed it.

463
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: I passed it.

464
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's some too.

465
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 3: Wait, oh this is your doodle. These are beautiful. These

466
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: just looks like illustrations in the book. I thought this

467
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: was fully just. I was like, wow, this is a

468
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: fascinating thing for personality types, very flowery. Okay, wait, so

469
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: let's see. Oh my god, this is These are excellent doodles.

470
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 3: Actually they look almost like fossils or something. So you

471
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: have me and is this the one you've selected for me?

472
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: Well, here's here's the idea that didn't quite work out.

473
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: Is that what I thought is I would I would

474
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: switch around. Okay, So if I thought that you were

475
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: sounding like a three, I would start doodling in the

476
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: area that's the three, the three, And then if you

477
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: said something that maybe, oh no, he's a seven, so

478
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: I'd flip to that area and try to like. So

479
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: the idea was that by the end of listening to

480
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: that podcast, it would be very clear, right like one

481
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: one number would have like way more roodles than another area.

482
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: And it kind of worked out, but I think I

483
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: have to well, I'm gonna probably think more on it

484
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 2: after today, after talking to you in person and then

485
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: listening to more podcasts. And because I'm obsessed, I can't

486
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: Once I start thinking about like what number a person is,

487
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: I can't stop thinking.

488
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, so currently the one I found, Okay, here's another

489
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: that's quite a bit, which is a person number one,

490
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: the reformer. This has got a significant amount of doodling

491
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: here and kind of some shading. Okay, so the reform

492
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: and then we saw number seven, which is the enthusiast, which, okay,

493
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: so I'm kind of, as far as I can tell

494
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: so far, I'm really looking for answers for my life

495
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: right now. Little do you know, I'm just like, oh,

496
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: this is finally, this might get me on track for something. Uh. Oh,

497
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: we've got an investor. Oh and how odd is this?

498
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 3: While I'm investigating, I come upon number five. You've doodled,

499
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: doodled slightly the investigator number five. H I mean, I

500
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: think this is what what this says is that I'm

501
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: kind of a I'm kind of a jack of all trades.

502
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: I'm offering a little bit of everything to everyone in

503
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: my personality. And uh, but of course this is inconclusive.

504
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: We uh you're still We're now to another. Now I'm

505
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: I'm also part Number eight has a decent amount of

506
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: doodling the challenger. Okay, what do you identify as?

507
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: So I identify as a six, which is a loyalist, and.

508
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: What does that mean in the obvious?

509
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: Sure? So a couple of things about a six is

510
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: that were we run on anxiety a little bit of

511
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: a DeBie Downer. Do you have that friend that's always

512
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: like you, You mentioned an idea to them and then

513
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: they have like a ton of reasons why it won't work.

514
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: That might be a six. Very hard worker, very dedicated,

515
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: very loyal, kind of paranoid, but then gullible in any case,

516
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: that's those are all sixes.

517
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: And why is it labeled the loyalist with you know,

518
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: these other qualities don't really strike me as loyal qualities.

519
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: As part of loyal Yeah, I think the first I

520
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: think one of the main things, because a lot of

521
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: different numbers can be anxious and these types of things,

522
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: and hard worker. I think one of the main things

523
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: about a six is that it's perhaps hard to get

524
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: very close to them, but then once you're behind that wall,

525
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: it's very solid.

526
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: They trapped. You're trapped with that person.

527
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Yes, very yeah, very loyal, very dedicated to those people.

528
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: Okay, and how long have you been, uh, you know,

529
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: studying all of this.

530
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I've been obsessed with this, oh like early two thousands,

531
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: oh so for twenty two years into this thing at

532
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: this point.

533
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean, I'm assuming you started on January first,

534
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 3: two thousand. Yeah, I a bit of time and now

535
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: what got you into it?

536
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: A friend of mine just came over and did one

537
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: of these little salons. Do you do salons? I feel

538
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: like you do the word done a salon. I should

539
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: do a soon, once you know we're all right. We've

540
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: been in this house for two years.

541
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: I've had like currently like you and Annalis being here

542
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: is almost as many people as I've had at one time.

543
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: I get so anxious about having people over, but a

544
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: salon would be terrific.

545
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: So you say anxious, and then I think, oh, maybe

546
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: he's a six.

547
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: I'm a very anxious person, are you? Okayly anxious? It's

548
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: not helped by my caffeine consumption, or my career choice

549
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: or just anything that I've kind of brought into my life.

550
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, maybe I am a loyalist. I'm not well,

551
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: maybe I am gullible. I don't know. The only way

552
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: is the only way to find that out is for

553
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: someone to lie to me, someone to deceive or trick,

554
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: and I don't feel like I tricked that often. But

555
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what the other options are. Obviously you've

556
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: identified some things. If you had to guess right now,

557
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: what would you say I am?

558
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: If I had to guess now, I'd say seven. That

559
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: was a That was the one that I was leaning

560
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: towards most towards the end, the enthusiast.

561
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: And what does that mean?

562
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: It's someone who see This is why it's difficult, because

563
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't you don't seem a classic number in any

564
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: of them. But the reason why I thought of enthusiast

565
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: is that you have a wide knowledge base. You seem

566
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: to know a lot. You can carry on a conversation

567
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: with a lot of different people. I feel I can

568
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: be able to have a touch tone on something that

569
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: would be interesting to them. Is that is that? Is that?

570
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I'll accept that. I mean, I don't know

571
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: if it's just uh, I would uh be careful about

572
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: saying that I know much of anything at all. But

573
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: I do feel like I'm at least happy to talk

574
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: about things. I'm curious to hear what people have to

575
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: say about things. Right, very few things, very few topics

576
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: bore me. Mmmm so maybe that maybe that's true. I

577
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: don't know. The enthusiast.

578
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: That sounds very seven.

579
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So what's your husband? My husband's A four A

580
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: four which.

581
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: Is which is an individualist?

582
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: Oh and is this kind of a a zodiac style

583
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: thing where it's like personality types can clash or does

584
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: any of that matter?

585
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, I you know, with

586
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: all of these things, it's it's they're all levels. So

587
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: if someone's a very very healthy any of these numbers,

588
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: it's going to be easier to get along with that

589
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: person than an unhealthy version of any of them.

590
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: What does it mean to be an unhealthy version of that?

591
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: So? For instance, so the personality or how I think

592
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: of personality is is almost the way you first learned

593
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: to deal with problems. So as a child, what were

594
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: your first tools that you went to that you use

595
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: a lot?

596
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: Right?

597
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: And when someone's really maybe not healthy, it's very obvious

598
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: what those tools are because they grip them very hard,

599
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: they're very desperate to use them, and it's you can

600
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: label it very easily. So when someone's very healthy, yes,

601
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: they know those tools that come easy to them, but

602
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: they're able to use other tools. Oh, they're able to

603
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: cope in different ways and don't have to go to

604
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: like a triggered response to anything.

605
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, So has any of this gotten you in

606
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: trouble with friends? Family where you're like, I think you're

607
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: a nonhealthy investigator, and you just have to admit it

608
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: to yourself.

609
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I do think that a part of

610
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: a part of the danger of any of this stuff

611
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 2: is one using it as an excuse for yourself. Right,

612
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: I can't, I'm such a six. I'm so I'm so anxious.

613
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: I just couldn't. I couldn't do that. I can't, I'm

614
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: a six, you know. Or labeling someone else and not

615
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: you know, putting them in such a tight box, kind

616
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: of weaponizing in no way. Definitely, that little bit of knowledge,

617
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: you know, is so dangerous.

618
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how I'm going to use this explicitly

619
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: from now on. I'm going to memorize this book and

620
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: just start pointing out everybody.

621
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: Labeling people snap labels.

622
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to create an online database of everyone I

623
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: know and really lay it out for people. So for me,

624
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: now I have this book, what is my best path

625
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: forward with this? I should just read through and see

626
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: what reflect on each one and see if it is

627
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 3: me or what do I do?

628
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: Well? There is I take it back. There is a

629
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: kind of a little bit of a work book aspect

630
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: to it, because at the beginning of each chapter you

631
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: can ask yourself I don't know if it's ten questions

632
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: or something, and you can give it a number. Oh, no,

633
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: by the if you that's like a quick test. So

634
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: you go through all nine and you can say, oh this,

635
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: you know this number. I listed all fives, which is

636
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: the highest, right, uh? And then I'll kind of.

637
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: See my problem with anything that requires like a between

638
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: one and five. Yes, I overthink and cheat where I'm like,

639
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: I think the system wants this from me, right, and

640
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: I think this is what I will. I have such

641
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: a hard time being a blank or just like uh,

642
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: you know, like almost a stream of consciousness where it's

643
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: just like this is the true answer coming straight from

644
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: my brain. It's like it has to overcome all of

645
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: these different walls before it gets to But let's let

646
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: me see if I can find one of these and

647
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: see if I can take rapid fire answer, and we'll

648
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: see if we can discover something about my personality. I'll

649
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: probably uncover some horrible truth and this will just become

650
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: a really dark episode. Let's try the chat.

651
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: Oh I love it.

652
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, go ahead, Yes, let's both answer do you

653
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: want to answer sure? Sure? Number one? And do you

654
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: have to answer between? Okay, one not at all true,

655
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: too seldom true, three somewhat true for generally true, and

656
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: five very true. Number one. I am extremely independent and

657
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: don't like having to rely on others for what I

658
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: really need for me. That's number five. Ah four okay, okay.

659
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: Number two, I feel that you have to break some

660
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: eggs to make an omelet. I'm gonna say two yeah,

661
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: one yeah, that's like the idea of causing trouble to

662
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: get what you want feels tough to me. Number three.

663
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: When I care about people, I often begin to think

664
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: of them as my people and feel like I need

665
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: to watch out for their interests. Ooh, I'm gonna say four.

666
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: One. Wow. I mean I care about people, but I

667
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: don't I don't put Yeah.

668
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: The thing about this one that's very untrue for me

669
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: is I cannot imagine in any universe referring to my

670
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: friends as my people. That doesn't feel in line with

671
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 3: my personality whatsoever. I would feel like an enormous dork.

672
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: Let's do two more, okay. Number four. I know how

673
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: to get results. I know how to reward people and

674
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: how to put pressure on them to get things done.

675
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that's I think that's a two for me.

676
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 3: That feels pushy.

677
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not.

678
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: And the idea of rewarding people for doing things feels bonkers. Okay,

679
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: you said a one, yeah, one, okay. And number five,

680
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: I do not have much sympathy. I do not have

681
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: much sympathy for those who are weak and facilitating or vacillating.

682
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: Excuse me, weakness just invites trouble. This I'm saying number one,

683
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 3: this is starting to this person's starting to sound like

684
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: a psychotomy.

685
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a this is a real low and

686
00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: at least is laughing. I'm just mortified. Is this you? No?

687
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: I never want to meet this person?

688
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh oh gotchalys wants nothing to do with

689
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: the challenger. We've probably all met a challenger at some point,

690
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: but this sort of person seems cruel, Yes.

691
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: At their worst, cruel at their best. A leader, like

692
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: a brave soul that puts themselves in front of weaker

693
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say weaker, but people who need help, people

694
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: who need need a champion.

695
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I guess I'm looking at these things

696
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: as probably because I've dealt with unhealthy challenger four and

697
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that sort of behavior is bad. But

698
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 3: I guess a healthy challenger you don't even know. They're

699
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 3: just guiding. Or maybe the three of us are all

700
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: excellent challengers and we just don't know it. There's really

701
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: no saying. Well, that reveals a little bit about both

702
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: of our personalities, basically saying that you can bully us

703
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: into doing whatever you want if you're a challenger, come

704
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: into our lives and manipulate us. Reward, punish.

705
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: But you know why I wrote so much, as so

706
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: many doodles down at first, is that I feel like

707
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: you're someone, at least on this podcast, that that you're

708
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: not afraid of saying a controversial thought though you think so,

709
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: Oh your opinions for sure.

710
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I suppose that's Wait did you doodle on the Challenger?

711
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: I did not?

712
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 3: Oh there is it did? Interesting And again I didn't

713
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: even notice it because it looks like illustrations within the book.

714
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: You need to become an illustrator for Personality Test?

715
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: Oh is that a job?

716
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: Now?

717
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: Oh?

718
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: I would love you should get your own special edition

719
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: of this book. Okay, I'm a little forward in the beginning.

720
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: I'll do a blurb on the back. Oh, I love it.

721
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: That feels like a celib Yes, okay, so you think

722
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: I am partially a challenger?

723
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: Interesting, well do you see that this is my problem?

724
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: I can't stop. Do you find it easy to say

725
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: what it is that you think and back up your opinion?

726
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 3: I will say on the on a podcast that I host, absolutely, absolutely,

727
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 3: In my day to day interactions at work, that sort

728
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 3: of thing a much different.

729
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: Okay.

730
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: I feel like on a podcast, this is my job,

731
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: so I'm like, if I'm not doing this, what am

732
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: I doing?

733
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: Right?

734
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: But then when I'm around other people, I'm very careful

735
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: about other people's feelings and like wanting everyone to be happy,

736
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: probably to a fault at the time. Oh okay, so

737
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: what what what are we saying here? Is it? Do

738
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 3: I need to transfer my podcast personality into my real

739
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: life and suddenly I'm making millions of dollars a year,

740
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: I'm Titan of industry and people say Bridge is a

741
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: challenger if we know it?

742
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: Laughing again, I'm sorry. I don't know if this is

743
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: part of the podcast for me to comment every time

744
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: ant at least last, but I just this is.

745
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: The thrill and I'll say it a billion times of

746
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: recording a podcast in person, getting to comment on a

747
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: shared reality. Oh there's nothing I like more. I I'm

748
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: so tired of zoom. So when someone comes to the backyard,

749
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 3: I think, oh, reality exists, and the listener better be thrilled.

750
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: They better be thrilled. I'll find them and I will

751
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: add them to my database where I will track down

752
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 3: their personality and shame them. So just be aware of that, listener. Okay,

753
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 3: so you're a number four.

754
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: I'm a sixth and six husbands before.

755
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 3: That's right, and I'm all over the place. I can't

756
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: be counted on.

757
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm just like you're an onion. We need to peep

758
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: what is at the root?

759
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 3: Someone get me a new therapist. Well, this is fascinating.

760
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: I can't I really can't wait to find out. Oh,

761
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: this is just changing to a page on six that

762
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: says daring to follow your heart and it's uh. I

763
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: think that's good advice that we need to dare to

764
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: follow our heart. And it gives you some prompts and

765
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: things like this. Do you still go back to this

766
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: book on occasion?

767
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: I do. I love it. And you know, it's actually

768
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: really great for writers and it's really great for actors

769
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: as well.

770
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: Oh, I bet, how do you use it as an actor.

771
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: Well for an actor. Sometimes for me it's helpful for

772
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: me to know what I think that character's number is,

773
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 2: if it's the same as mine, if it's different than mine,

774
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: and I can read more about them. You can find

775
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: little nooks and crannies that might not be so obvious,

776
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: you know, for myself, their thought patterns are why they're

777
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: motivated to do certain things. And then for writing, I

778
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: find it's really interesting in a way to keep your

779
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: characters separate, because sometimes your characters kind of will start.

780
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: To bleed together and have different names. Yes, yes, and

781
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: I'll just be like a swamp of characteristics. Right, Yes,

782
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: I know that failing very well, and.

783
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: So I like this because you can kind of try

784
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: to keep their motivations very separate.

785
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: And why yeah, right, somebody should do a show that's

786
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: just all nine personality types. Each character is one of

787
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: the is one of the personality types. And I think

788
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: you're the leader of the group, You're kind of I

789
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: think we're developing a show in the moment here. This

790
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 3: is again.

791
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: We are working it out. We will be pitching to

792
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: NBC next week.

793
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: Look out this fall on NBC The Personalities.

794
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: Yes, is this I mean that that name right there,

795
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued. I'm clicking on that.

796
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 3: Well. I mean, if nothing else, I like to throw

797
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 3: an idea out on this podcast, not do any of

798
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: the work on it, wait for someone else to do it,

799
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: and then sue. That feels like an easier way to

800
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: money to me. Just throw the idea out there, have

801
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: the audio recording, and then improve you.

802
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: Like, wait a minute, six months from now the personality

803
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: CBS what.

804
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: I will own the new work? Oh boy, well this

805
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: is so exciting. I can't wait to give this a shot.

806
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: And I'm also just thrilled with your illustrations. So if

807
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 3: you don't mind, I'm going to share some of those

808
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: on Instagram. People need to see. We've got to get

809
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: your illustrating career off the ground. That's something else you

810
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 3: should be doing. And and then, of course, in addition

811
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: to the work of our television show The Personalities this

812
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: fall maybe on ABC, we've got to go for the

813
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: big four PBS. We can't leave PBS.

814
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: PBS.

815
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: We could develop kind of a show for PBS where

816
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 3: no one makes any money and the show is forgotten. Yes,

817
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: that feels right. This the front of this cover looks

818
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: very PBS to me.

819
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: It kind of does. It has a little Bob Ross.

820
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: Yes, and you know you're going to be nurtured by

821
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: whatever happens inside it. We love PBS. Okay, I think

822
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: we should play a game.

823
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

824
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: Do you want to play a game called Gift Master

825
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: or a game called gift or a curse?

826
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: Gift or a curse?

827
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: Okay? I need a number between one and ten from you.

828
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: Nine.

829
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some light calculating. You can

830
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: you have the mic for a moment? Hey, you can wreck, commend, promote,

831
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: say hello, diagnose somebody's personality, whatever you want. I'll be right.

832
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Hello, listeners, I am coming to you live for me,

833
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: not for you. This is not live for you because

834
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: you are not here right now, right now. It's just

835
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 2: the three of us, us humble, beautiful, brilliant three as

836
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: we sit in that I'm not really actually promoting anything,

837
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: just a stream of consciousness, unlike Bridger, who apparently can

838
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: do it. So you are a challenger a little bit.

839
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: Maybe just it brought it out of me. Reading that

840
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: chapter just awakened the challenge within.

841
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: Hopefully this episode is a woken is a woken A word.

842
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 2: Is awaken awakens, awakened, I can't be ready waken up.

843
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that doesn't sound as important, has you know?

844
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: Sparked the Challenger and all of our listeners and hopefully

845
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: they're ready to move into the world and kind of

846
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: take over. But right now is the time for the game.

847
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: This is called gift or a curse. I'm gonna name

848
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: three things. You're gonna tell me if there are a

849
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: gift or a curse and why? Okay, and there are

850
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: correct answers. So you could leave my home today in tears. Okay,

851
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: so just be careful. Okay. Number one, gift your a curse.

852
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: This is from a listener named Aaron, and she has

853
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: suggested gift or a curse tiny sunglasses.

854
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: Ooh, curse tiny sunglasses for what purpose? Oh no, no, no, no, no, no,

855
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: that's that's that's like you don't even have to check

856
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: your Merry Condo book on that one.

857
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: You're absolutely correct. Tiny sunglasses have never they I think

858
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: they have tried to make a comeback and may still

859
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: be trying to make it come back in some way.

860
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: I think in the early thousands people were wearing the

861
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: tiny sunglasses. They vanished for a while and we were

862
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: all in kind of normal size sunglasses. And now I

863
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: believe and this is you know, people come to me

864
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 3: for trend to Watch twenty twenty two. Of course, tiny

865
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: sunglasses are trying to creep back into the public and

866
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: they make everyone look like a pervert. They make you

867
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: look strange and weird, and there's nothing normal or flattering

868
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: about them. You look wacky, just like a wacky person

869
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: wearing a tiny sunglass. I believe, you know, kind of

870
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: the matrix was popularize them. Oh this kind of thing.

871
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: I'm just saying no to tiny sunglasses. They make you

872
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: look like a little creep. Curse. Okay, so you're off

873
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: to an excellent start. Okay. Number two, this is a

874
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: little This one might well, actually it sounds like it's

875
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: an explanation in and of itself. The listener Sarah has

876
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: suggested gift to a curse. King sized beds that are

877
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: really just two twin mattresses pushed together. Get your curse.

878
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, curse, no, come on, I'm a

879
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: I'm a romantic, get hurt. I was going to try

880
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: to justify that it might be okay because you could,

881
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: you know, you have your own side of the bed

882
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But I'm a cuddler, and you don't want

883
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: to be in that little divot. I have to I

884
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: hate to be two curses in a row, but I

885
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: have to go with curse on that.

886
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: Okaykh answer, Oh no, no, don't do it. More people

887
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: need to know about this. I think you know. I

888
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: learned of these a little while ago, of this technique

889
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: of forcing two twin beds together to create one large bed,

890
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: and I absolutely support this. I mean, it's kind of

891
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: a convertible of beds. It's the transformer of beds. You've

892
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: got a king bed. Maybe at some point, you know, divorce,

893
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: you each get to take half the bed.

894
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: But what's is this the frame?

895
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: It's a king frame.

896
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: Well, what are you gonna saw?

897
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: Has to be burned in the divorce. I think that's

898
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: what should happen in divorce is everything that can be

899
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: split without actually breaking it should be given to one

900
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: side or the other. Everything else should be put in

901
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: a boton fire. I think that's uh. I'm willing to

902
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: launch that business. Let me know. If you need the

903
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: things that neither of you can agree on in the divorce,

904
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: I'll burn them for you.

905
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: In all seriousness, Yes, wouldn't that actually be a good business?

906
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: Could that actually?

907
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: Probably? I feel like it would catch on.

908
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: I feel like, I mean people throw axes at a bar,

909
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: you know. It feels like the same like visberal something.

910
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 3: You'd bring the things from your broken relationship and burn

911
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: them some kind of like I think this is great.

912
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's mighty something.

913
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: I think that. And you know, you rent a warehouse space.

914
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: Or purchasing right and decorate it really funky and fun alcohol.

915
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: We send the movers to your your home or whatever

916
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: where the things need to be picked up, and you

917
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: get in the back with them. They bring you to

918
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: our warehouse and you get to burn them. Yeah, that

919
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: actually feels like.

920
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: It feels like it might something about that much.

921
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: There's something there which again I will be putting no effort. Yeah,

922
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: I'm happy to hopefully, like a year down the line,

923
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: somebody will be pitching that on Shark Tank. I'll pause

924
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: it and get my lawyer on the line. But yeah,

925
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: I think the king sized beds that are really just

926
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: two twin beds gift. I assume that it's a money

927
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 3: saving technique, which is great, and uh, it's also a

928
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: fun surprise. You've been sleeping on this king sized bed

929
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: for months and then you find out it's two twins.

930
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: You've been betrayed by your furniture. What a trill? Okay, finally, gift,

931
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 3: you're a curse, an unexpected windfall. So just you know,

932
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: a bunch of money coming to you.

933
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: Gift?

934
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: Why?

935
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: Oh you seem like it's not a wind it's not

936
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: a good thing.

937
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: I'm giving nothing away here I need to.

938
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: You're giving everything away? Bridger? Why why do you say?

939
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: Why do you say gift AGAINA why explain yourself? Let's see.

940
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: Do you like my Bridger voice? I don't know it's

941
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: being to it. It sounds nothing like you.

942
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 3: It's kind of a Batman village.

943
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: This is because you know money you could put it towards, uh,

944
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: things you want want to put it towards, and such

945
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: and such. I have to hear what you're thinking. What

946
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: are you thinking?

947
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: It's a curse. It's a curse. It's unexpected and the

948
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: money you're not going to know what to do with it.

949
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: So you know, I know what to do with it.

950
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: That's what everyone thinks when the unexpected windfall appears in

951
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 3: their lives.

952
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 2: Will you say windfall? How much? Are you talking. I'm

953
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: talking four hundred million dollars unexpected. I understood your meaning windfall.

954
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 2: We were on two different nothings. No, but I would

955
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: you know, in the hundreds of thousand, Okay, I would

956
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: would be lovely and munchie, four hundred million, I do.

957
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: There's like too too much pressure and there are too

958
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: many people that know about it.

959
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: And a curse. Yeah, suddenly you've got a target on

960
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: your back wherever you go. You're like all of your

961
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: bad habits can suddenly be supported with endless money. You're

962
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: buying Tacki mansions all over America. You know, I think

963
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: that an unexpected windfall, well, rather I know is a curse.

964
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 3: And unfortunately you only got one correct. Oh No, yeah

965
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: I was.

966
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: I wasn't careful and I wasn't keeping reckless.

967
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 3: I'll say you were absolutely reckless. You were just kind

968
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: of all over the road on this game. And it's

969
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: a shame to see it happen, but you gave it

970
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 3: your best efforts. Now, this is the last part of

971
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: the podcast. This is called I said no emails, people

972
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: write in two I said no gifts at gmail dot com.

973
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be very honest my listeners are desperate people.

974
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: They've all got some different situation in their life that

975
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: they couldn't just solve on their own. I don't know

976
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: what personality type that is where you just put your

977
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 3: burden on strangers or podcast hosts. But would you help

978
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: me answer a question?

979
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: Of course?

980
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: Okay, this says Highbridger. They don't address you, which I

981
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: always find extremely rude. The least you could do is

982
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: a Highbridger and guest. But look, we'll take what we

983
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 3: can get. And then, of course, and now I feel

984
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: bad because the first sentence is loving the podcast.

985
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: What a shame.

986
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: I take it back. I love the way you started

987
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: this letter. Person. I am twenty six years old and

988
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: just moved to a new city because they went through

989
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: a quarter life crisis and needed a fresh start, so

990
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: I moved across the country, you know, normal stuff. Anyway,

991
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: I am making new friends who invite me out for

992
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: happy hour and such, but I still don't know them

993
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: that well. They invite me for birthday dinners and gatherings.

994
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: And I was wondering if you could help me with

995
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: default gifts right now. My defaults are are candles, wine

996
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: mugs or wineglasses, or plants. If I know the recipient

997
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 3: can take care of them. What are some suggestions you

998
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: have for me to add to this default gift collection?

999
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: Thank you. That's from Claire. And she's apparently now in

1000
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 3: New Orleans, so I don't know where. Maybe she was

1001
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 3: in Arizona before we'll assume Arizona. Claire formerly of Arizona,

1002
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: now of New Orleans is meeting new people and apparently

1003
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: giving a lot of gifts away, which feels like she's

1004
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: coming on very strong. Claire, I feel like I don't know.

1005
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: I by the time I've read this letter, you may

1006
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: have completely alienated yourself from all of New Orleans by

1007
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: begging them to be your friend. With candles, wine, wineglass smugs.

1008
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: That was a lot. That was a long list. Yeah,

1009
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: that's all the birthdays. It's how many birthdays? Because I

1010
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: do know that when you're when a birthday party makes

1011
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 2: sense to bring a gift, right, But how many birth

1012
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: how many people had birthdays in the time that she

1013
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: was there, right?

1014
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 3: And then it seems like this is all pretty new,

1015
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: and suddenly she knows enough people that she's going to

1016
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: birthdays where she feels close enough to bring gifts. Claire

1017
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: seems dangerous to me. Claire seems like a I mean,

1018
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: we've we've had drifters right into this podcast before, but

1019
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 3: Claire is textbook Like she was in Arizona. She had

1020
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: to get out fast.

1021
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: Is the dry heat?

1022
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dry heat drove her, drove her out of

1023
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: her mind, and she fled to the Big Easy and

1024
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: there she started every person she met. She basically was

1025
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: carrying Santa's bag around with her.

1026
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: Heavy.

1027
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 3: Mugs are extremely heavy, fragile. She probably had broken wine

1028
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: glasses in this bag. She's dangerous. I've already said that,

1029
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: but now she's I guess also physically dangerous with this

1030
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: broken glass, dead plants, et cetera. But what's something What's

1031
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 3: something else she can throw in her bag if she

1032
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: if by the small chance that she isn't person non

1033
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: grata in New Orleans.

1034
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: Fancy soap.

1035
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 3: I love that, like bars soap, bottled soap.

1036
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: Powder soap is a and I I don't know, And

1037
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: I wish I knew the name because then I could

1038
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: maybe they'll give you something free for mentioning them. But

1039
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: right next to that Vus is a fancy soap place.

1040
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: It has a bottled soap for forty dollars.

1041
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a place like across the street. Yeah, what

1042
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: is that place?

1043
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1044
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: What is that place called? It's something?

1045
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: Does it start with an R? No? Oh, I would

1046
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: love to know. We've got to name it fancy. They

1047
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 3: sell like colognes, perfumes, sense and they'll like mix it

1048
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 3: there for you.

1049
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: Is that we can? Yes?

1050
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: Oh, forty dollars for a bottle of soap? How picks

1051
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: the bottle?

1052
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 2: I think it's a normal sized bottle.

1053
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: That is so expensive, isn't it? I mean, but again,

1054
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: Claire didn't set a a budget. I've heard of some candles.

1055
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of candlebuy er clear is,

1056
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 3: but can get very expensive.

1057
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: You ever heard these crazy prices for these.

1058
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: People are spending hundreds of dollars on a candle, and

1059
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: I don't I do think don't understand it? Do you

1060
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: think this is an Emperor's New clothes situation where it's

1061
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: like what we're imagining. It's better than the Yankee candle

1062
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 3: or what have you. But it's ultimately right, I guess.

1063
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: I'm sure they smell nice, But what price do we

1064
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: put on our sense? I think that's the big question today.

1065
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 3: And hundreds of dollars for a candle forty dollars for

1066
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 3: a bottle of soap feels unfair. Yeah, I will say

1067
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: that place that you go to or that you suggest

1068
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: the soap, you can go and get like a sample

1069
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 3: bottle for cheaper. Ooh, it's like it's probably an ounce

1070
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 3: for twenty dollars. Okay, that can't possibly be true. That

1071
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: is not true. Now this has just become a kind

1072
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 3: of a disinformation podcast. I'm I'm kind of the Joe

1073
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: Rogan of sense at this point. I'm just spreading lies

1074
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: about it.

1075
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: Yes, that is it.

1076
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: I think the place with the Yes, they used to

1077
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: have like hand stuff you outside the store even that

1078
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 3: you could use. It's those beautiful kind of medicinal bottles.

1079
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: Yes, and they have a sink inside where you can

1080
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: wash your hands. I love them to practice ASoP.

1081
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 3: That's an excellent news. Very close to our gift to

1082
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: give people, uh photos of yourself. That's a nice thing

1083
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: for a new friend because they forget with your name

1084
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: on it like a little That's a decent default gift.

1085
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: Everyone loves a live animal, you know, just take around

1086
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 3: like kind of a pack of dogs that you can

1087
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Speaker 3: give to strangers as you meet them. These don't feel

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00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 3: like easy, doable, default gifts that as a new person

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00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: from New Orleans are going to help you ease your

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: way into the city. Everyone loves a ben that's, you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of a New Orleans type snack. Maybe have one

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00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: of those in your purse to give away. But that

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00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 3: all feels right for and forgive me listener, what was

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Speaker 3: your name? Claire? Claire from Arizona, now of New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: I think we've answered her question perfectly. I mean, yes, again,

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: we don't know if Claire is alive or dead at

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00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: this point. She obviously lives kind of a wild life

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00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: and she's probably got a lot of enemies, but at

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Speaker 3: least now she has a few extra suggestions as far

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00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: as giving things away. I've just ad a place in

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00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: Palm Springs recently. We went in. They said you could,

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00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: they would let you. They would like use your hand

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00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: scrub or whatever. That a sink. The woman there could

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00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: not have been more on cocaine. I mean, I've never

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00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: seen anything like this before. It was the retail employee

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00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: from another dimension. She and she wanted desperate for us

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00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: to buy that body scrub. But I think it was

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: or the drugs speaking. She had a very cocaine outfit

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00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: all white, and did give me a decent hand scrub,

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00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: but ultimately it was a jarring experience. So I just

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00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 3: want people to be aware of.

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Speaker 2: That she actually scrubbed your hands, scrubbed my hands, oh huh,

1113
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: coke surging through her body, and then we left without

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00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: buying it.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm not buying the hand scrub. I just

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00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: wanted my hands to be scrubbed. It was a fascinating experience.

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00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: So anytime somebody offers a free hand scrub, I say

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Speaker 3: take them up on it. You never know where the

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00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: road will lead once you agree to a free hand scrub. Kaiko,

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Speaker 3: we answered Claire's question perfectly. I'm sure she's satisfied or

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00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: dead satisfied, wanted satisfied or did um? Look, this is

1122
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: the end of the podcast. I now have my personality test.

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00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: This is probably going to send me into a spiral

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00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: that will last for twenty years of me trying to

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00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: discover who I am. I hope that you'll continue to

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00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: kind of hypothesize about what I am. If you come

1127
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 3: to any more conclusions, I need to hear them. And meanwhile,

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00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: I'll be trying. I'll be searching for my own answers.

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Speaker 3: I'm so thrilled. Thank you for being here, Oh, thank

1130
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 3: you for having me a wonderful time. Is now listener again?

1131
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: You know this is usually the end of the podcast

1132
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: where we stop talking to the guests and you listen

1133
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: to me for a few seconds and then you select

1134
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: some other audio or finally, like let go of the

1135
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: steering wheel you've been gripping for the last hour and

1136
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: go into work. So now I'm just going to send

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Speaker 3: you on your way. I hope you have a terrific day,

1138
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 3: and I hope you tune in again soon. If you don't,

1139
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna lose touch. And then I'm going to be

1140
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: the distant aunt that we talked about earlier in this podcast,

1141
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: and that's the last thing I want to be to

1142
00:59:54,720 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 3: you have a wonderful day. I said, No Gifts is

1143
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 3: an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend

1144
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by John Bradley. The

1145
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 3: theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker

1146
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram. At

1147
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 3: I said no Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses.

1148
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 3: That's where you get to see pictures of all these

1149
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 3: gorgeous gifts I'm getting And don't you want to see

1150
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: pictures of the gifts?

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01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 2: Now?

1152
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: Make sure to listen, follow, and most important, they leave

1153
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: a heartfelt review on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts or wherever

1154
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: you get your podcasts, and don't forget. You can listen

1155
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: to new episodes one week early on Amazon Music or

1156
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: early and ad free by subscribing to Wondery Plus. In

1157
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: the Wondery app, he line why did you hear?

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Speaker 1: Funa man? Myself perfectly clear, but you're I guessed, Tom.

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Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty? And I said, no, guests,

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Speaker 1: your own presence is presents en. I already had too

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Speaker 1: much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me