WEBVTT - Echoing Through (the) Time (Capsule)

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosey Night and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to a bite sized episode of x ray Vision,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where we dive deep put your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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<v Speaker 1>and pop culture.

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<v Speaker 2>In this episode, we are catching up on Echo in

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<v Speaker 2>our previously on as part of the series revisiting all

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<v Speaker 2>the things we missed while we were on hiatus and

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<v Speaker 2>what show, What show?

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<v Speaker 3>What a show?

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<v Speaker 1>We opened in the ancient past where we see beings

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<v Speaker 1>driven from their homes under the earth somewhere and they

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<v Speaker 1>become the first of the Choktaw people. It's a story

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<v Speaker 1>young Maya knows well. In two thousand and seven, we

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<v Speaker 1>see Maya Lopez's mother, Taaloa, killed in a car crash

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<v Speaker 1>that also takes one of Maya's legs. She then goes

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<v Speaker 1>to live with her father, William in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>William is a minor organized crime figure quickly climbing the

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<v Speaker 1>ranks of the Kingpins organization, and we figure that his

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<v Speaker 1>organized crime entanglements are probably the reason that Telloa's break

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<v Speaker 1>lines got cut and then she got into this car

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<v Speaker 1>accident in New York. Wilson Fisk, William's boss, takes a

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<v Speaker 1>shine to young Maya and he starts grooming her to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of his enforcers, although you also can't it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a toxic relationship for sure, but you also can't

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<v Speaker 1>deny that Wilson has actual care for her, like he cares, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And he loves her.

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<v Speaker 2>But they do some really great stuff that show that

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<v Speaker 2>it's only to a certain extent right throughout the series.

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<v Speaker 3>He will never learn sign language, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>He will come up with technology that's right, he will

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<v Speaker 2>have an interpret but he will never take the time

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<v Speaker 2>to actually so there is a there's a distance between

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<v Speaker 2>them there, but he does love her as much as

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<v Speaker 2>Kingpin can love anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very busy, Maya, I can't go to the lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>The stuff from the Hawkeye series on Disney Plus happens

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<v Speaker 1>and William is killed, which, as Maya discovers, was what

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<v Speaker 1>the Kingpin wanted. He wanted this guy out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Maya shoots Fisk in the head, which absolutely kills him.

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<v Speaker 3>Kills him. He's no question, definitely not coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>She then returns to Oklahoma to plot the downfall of

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<v Speaker 1>the Resk of Fisks organization. Step one sabotage one of

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<v Speaker 1>Fisks cargo trains, and Maya succeeds in planting a bomb

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<v Speaker 1>in one of the crates uh, but only a vision

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<v Speaker 1>of her ancestors allows her to survive When the mission

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes sideways, the bomb explodes in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>wrecks a bunch of Kingpin real estate and probably kills

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<v Speaker 1>some of his guys. Not that the Kingpin would care

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<v Speaker 1>if he was alive, Rosie.

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<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't care, wouldn't care if he was alive, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's not so.

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<v Speaker 1>But Fisk's goons strike back. They take Maya and her uncle,

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<v Speaker 1>skating rink proprietor Henry Prisoner. Fisk's Russian heavy Zane shows up,

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<v Speaker 1>but Maya handles him and the rest of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>until Dunk Dunta. They're eventually called off by Wilson Fisk himself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, guess what they alive? Who would have guessed?

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<v Speaker 3>This guy got a cool eye patch.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a cool eye patch, and he's got some

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<v Speaker 1>delicious wine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and this is proof, as we kind of thought

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<v Speaker 2>from Hawkey.

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<v Speaker 3>If you go back to that episode and we think

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<v Speaker 3>that we were right.

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<v Speaker 2>Bell the super Powered comic book version of Wilson Fish.

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<v Speaker 2>This man was shot straight in the head and he

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<v Speaker 2>is fine, and he's tearing card doors off in Hawky. Alright,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is not a man you want to mess with.

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<v Speaker 2>But as we see, his relationship with Maya is actually

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<v Speaker 2>much more tender than his relationships with other people. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, earlier in the season, in a very

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<v Speaker 2>impressive episode one action sequence, we do see Maya absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>just cook Deaed Devil.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he doesn't have a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of why Fisk is like so obsessed with her

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<v Speaker 2>because she is the only one who got out of

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<v Speaker 2>a fight with dead evil on top.

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<v Speaker 1>In the present, so Fisk is alive, he's at Maya's house,

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<v Speaker 1>we get a flashback to two thousand and eight. We

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<v Speaker 1>see Fisk bonding with his adopted niece Maya. And how

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<v Speaker 1>do you bond with a young kid? You get her

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream and then you beat the ice cream vendor

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<v Speaker 1>potentially to death.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is what he does. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And Maya troublingly chips in kicking the guy, beginning her

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<v Speaker 1>journey to beloved Mafia enforce her.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Fiscal Organization.

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<v Speaker 1>In the present, FIS gives Maya contact lenses. What it

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<v Speaker 1>gives is strong forces contact lenses into her eye, which

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<v Speaker 1>allow her to see in a kind of augmented reality

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way. His speech translated into sign language and

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<v Speaker 1>vice versa. Again, this guy could just take some asl classes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's wait way, way too busy.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought this was like such a fantastic reminder that like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he loves Maya, but he doesn't love her that much

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<v Speaker 2>because we get to see in the earlier episodes and

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<v Speaker 2>when Maya's at home and at coma, everyone around her

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<v Speaker 2>signs constantly, even if they're just talking to each other,

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<v Speaker 2>so they still sign in case Maya wanders.

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<v Speaker 3>Over, and because they're so used to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's this truth of like her real family and

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<v Speaker 2>how they treat her.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Wilson, who does love her, but he is

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<v Speaker 3>not able to truly.

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<v Speaker 2>Take the time to do something that would make her

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<v Speaker 2>world big and make them be able to communicate. He's

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<v Speaker 2>already killed one of her translators, and now he's got

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<v Speaker 2>this fancy augmented reality technology, which honestly would be good.

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<v Speaker 3>He should share that with people, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very busy, So I kidnapped a engineer's family and

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<v Speaker 1>made him create.

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<v Speaker 3>This program for h yeah, and he did it, so

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<v Speaker 3>good for him. They have dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk, who has abandonment issues that are quite severe and strong,

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<v Speaker 1>will learn more about those later, promises Maya that if

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<v Speaker 1>she returns New York City with him, he will make

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<v Speaker 1>her the heir to the criminal empire that he's built

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<v Speaker 1>from the ground up. In New York City, Maya's visions

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<v Speaker 1>of the chalk Top people continue. Now her grandmother Tula

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<v Speaker 1>is experiencing them as well. She tells Maya that she

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<v Speaker 1>should listen to those visions as they helped her once

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<v Speaker 1>in the past when she was pregnant with Mina's mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Maya decides, I gotta kill Fisk. I gotta get this

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<v Speaker 1>guy out of my life. Fisk is actually like, okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you give it a try. Why not, and he tells

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<v Speaker 1>her about the time that he murdered his father who

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<v Speaker 1>was beating her mom. But Maya doesn't do it, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>kill him, and Fisk is now enraged that Maya has

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<v Speaker 1>left him has abandoned him, leaving town. In a flashback,

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<v Speaker 1>we discovered that Maya's mom, Taloa, had healing powers that

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<v Speaker 1>were strong enough to bring a dead bird back to life.

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<v Speaker 1>Maya learns that Gramachula and her cousin Bonnie have disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>This is surely Fisk trying to lure her back into town.

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<v Speaker 1>In Sula's house, Maya has a strong, a powerful vision

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<v Speaker 1>of her mother telling her that she's the legacy of

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<v Speaker 1>her people, echoing through time. I love this scene. It

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<v Speaker 1>was beautiful. Maya then has the big showdown with Fisk

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<v Speaker 1>at the Choctaw Powow. The ancient Choctaw ancestor give Maya

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<v Speaker 1>their power and she shares them with Chula and Bonnie.

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<v Speaker 1>Maya uses the powers to uh to purge Fisk of

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<v Speaker 1>the trauma of his father's abuse. Really powerful scene. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Fisc is completely weird, a doubt about it, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unclear actually.

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<v Speaker 1>How this cleansing will affect him, but it's clear that

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<v Speaker 1>it affected him quite powerfully. He then leaves New York

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<v Speaker 1>and on the plane leaves for New York and on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane back decides very clearly to.

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<v Speaker 3>Run for office.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a clear nod to some really strong plot lines

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<v Speaker 1>from the Daredevil comic book. Let's talk about this series,

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<v Speaker 1>which I loved.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fantastic. I thought it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the lac Recox is such a boon to

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<v Speaker 2>the MCSU.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to see all these iconic and genous actors,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Graham Green, and to be able to see

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<v Speaker 2>the world of Echo brought to life in such a

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<v Speaker 2>thoughtful way.

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<v Speaker 3>I also thought the way they did the powers was

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<v Speaker 3>quite cool. I am too. I am I'm a fan

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<v Speaker 3>of Echo's original.

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<v Speaker 2>Powers, where she's essentially like a street level task master,

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<v Speaker 2>like she can learn any fighting skill. But I thought

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<v Speaker 2>they did it really well. I loved the scene where

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<v Speaker 2>she shared it with Chula and Bonnie and the powers

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<v Speaker 2>of kind community focused. I thought that was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the Dead Evil fight sequence in the first

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<v Speaker 2>episode is like one of the best MCU fight sequences.

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<v Speaker 1>I think overall, the action in this series is as

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<v Speaker 1>good as it gets in the MU.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I do think that's like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>funniest things is they kind of they put this as

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<v Speaker 2>one of those Marvel This is a bit darker it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be on Disney, Plus you probably have to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the adult section like It's own Night. But I

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<v Speaker 2>have to say I think that was more.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because it was more action focused.

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<v Speaker 2>Apart from the first episode, I didn't find it to

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<v Speaker 2>be so much more violent or bloody than anything else

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<v Speaker 2>in the MCU.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think that sometimes it's to do with.

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<v Speaker 2>Intimacy, because in the MCU we get to see constantly

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people are dying, Wonders throwing a brick, Wonders

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<v Speaker 2>throwing a car into a building in Legoss, and thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of people are dying the you know, the Chatari are

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<v Speaker 2>coming to New York and thousands of people are dying.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they I think the official to be fair, I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you. I agree with you that it was

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<v Speaker 1>very apparent to me that thousands of people died in

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<v Speaker 1>the Chattari attack. That said, I think the official death toll,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it like, It's like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so crazy low because also that's that's you can't

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<v Speaker 2>have the Avengers killed too many people.

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<v Speaker 3>But as we know, it's superhero fat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the death toll is likely quite high. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think what people react to is there is a there's

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<v Speaker 2>a distance and an abstraction to like a large amount

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<v Speaker 2>of death in like a war scene or a battle,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, half the people being clicked off the earth.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that when people see hand to hand

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<v Speaker 2>fighting when they see somebody get shot.

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<v Speaker 3>When it's a smaller, more intimate thing, it can.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel a lot more visceral, and I think that is

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<v Speaker 2>the case with Echo.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it worked really well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I thought the first episode was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best pilots we've got from the TV show. And

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<v Speaker 2>I also wish that it had been a longer series.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have reached like an eight episode series. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you could kind of feel some of the editing

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<v Speaker 2>that had likely gone into this, especially because.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a rumor Siren.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not confirmed, but the rumor has it that

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<v Speaker 2>the original version of Echo was dar Devil was her

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<v Speaker 2>contact in New York, and Sherdock was her contact in

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<v Speaker 2>New York, and then that changed with the creative changes

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<v Speaker 2>on Dead Evil Born Again, and they kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>to edit that out. So I then I will That

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<v Speaker 2>leads me to a question for you, which is, do

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<v Speaker 2>you think Echo will be in Dad Evilborne Again?

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<v Speaker 3>I hope so.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope so as well. And it's quite clear to

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<v Speaker 1>me that you know what's interesting about Born Again is

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<v Speaker 1>in the comics, Wilson Fisk does run for mayor. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in the week of the of the Secret Empire.

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<v Speaker 3>Event and.

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<v Speaker 1>Merging that Fisk running for office with Daredevil Born Again.

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<v Speaker 1>The broad outline of whatever remains of that plot that

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<v Speaker 1>they decide to adapt is very interesting to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there is quite obviously room for Echo

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of that, since you know, Daredevil doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of natural allies right now in the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's also really interesting because, like in when

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<v Speaker 2>when Wilson Fisk runs for mayor, his deputy mayor is

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<v Speaker 2>Matt mud for a time, because Matt is like so

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with catching him doing something illegal, so that would

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<v Speaker 2>obviously be incredibly interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's probably a version the version that we

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<v Speaker 3>now know has been reshot.

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<v Speaker 2>They just wrapped filming on the nudad Evil Born Again

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<v Speaker 2>kind of version that they've just finished. I think there

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<v Speaker 2>was probably a version of that show where Echo was

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<v Speaker 2>very heavily.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to be in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this version it will be more of a cameo,

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<v Speaker 2>which makes me feel sad, but I also understand because

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<v Speaker 2>now we have Foggy and Karen, who apparently weren't going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the original version, and I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have the return of the actor who originally

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<v Speaker 2>played Wilson Fisk's wife who had been recast, but now

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<v Speaker 2>she's coming back and she was so brilliant. So I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that they want to keep it more along the

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<v Speaker 2>lines of the Netflix show, but I think that I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to see, you know, Frank Castle and Echo.

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<v Speaker 2>I think those two that would be so interesting. And

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<v Speaker 2>we know that Punisher is going to be in the series. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just happy to see more of Dinofrio Kingpin because

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<v Speaker 2>he's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>We have that we lucky we live in his time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fantastic, He's wonderful and that gravelly voice, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna take a quick break and moll be right back.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see how this dovetails with Daredevil

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<v Speaker 1>and Daredevil's true introduction into the MCU. We've got him

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<v Speaker 1>in cameos, but I will be fascinated to see how

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<v Speaker 1>that works. And also like what the effects of Maya's

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<v Speaker 1>cleansing are on Fisk, because yeah, does he really think? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>does he really feel like, Hey, I'm good now and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to to because you know, part of that storyline, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, is that Fisk runs from Ayor Matt

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<v Speaker 1>joins his organization because he wants to catch Wilson doing

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<v Speaker 1>something kingpin like.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I do wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's if we're gonna be waiting for the kingpin

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<v Speaker 1>criminal side to emerge, and if it ever will it must,

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<v Speaker 1>But like, what does what effect does this cleansing have

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<v Speaker 1>on him? I think that's an open question. That's really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be really interesting because in that case, who's

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<v Speaker 2>our antagonist for boy? Yeah, and I think we know

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<v Speaker 2>Bulls I might be returning, which is fantastic because that

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<v Speaker 2>was a great version of the character. But I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>interested because it does put a whole new spin. If

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<v Speaker 2>Fisk isn't your major antagonist, then you open up a

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<v Speaker 2>world of intrigue and interest of where we could go.

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought Echo was so great. I'm glad it exists.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad of Laquo got her starring role, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope see her in a tom More stuf.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that. Read this.

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<v Speaker 2>Every episode we like to close the show with a

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<v Speaker 2>variety of fast moving segments. Today it's like that read

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<v Speaker 2>this where we recommend comics to read if you like

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<v Speaker 2>the show or movie that we are talking about so obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>This week it's comics to read.

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<v Speaker 2>If you liked Echo, I will begin sure because the

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<v Speaker 2>original I will start with just the obvious. The original

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<v Speaker 2>Echo appearances Maya Lopez in Dead Devil volume two, issues

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<v Speaker 2>nine to fifteen, which is the Joe Casada David Mack

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<v Speaker 2>Dead Devil where you kind of get to meet her

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a Marvel Knight's era, darker story where Dadevil

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<v Speaker 2>finds himself kind of fighting for his life after as

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<v Speaker 2>we this may sound familiar to fans of Hawkeye after

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<v Speaker 2>Kingpin tells Maya that Dead Devil killed her dad.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would say that's a great place to start.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like six issues, you really get to know her,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's a really great I mean, David Max

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<v Speaker 2>like a legend.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Daredevil issues two fifty four to two sixty three, which

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<v Speaker 1>you can read if you have the Marvel and Limited

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<v Speaker 1>app or you're the comic reader of your choice. This

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<v Speaker 1>chronicles Matt Murdoch aka Daredevil's pseudo sexual battle with the

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<v Speaker 1>criminal Typhoid Mary.

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<v Speaker 3>Written by This is the best Dad Evil stuff the

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<v Speaker 3>all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Written by the Legend and ASSENTI with art by the

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<v Speaker 1>legend John Ramita Jr.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's it's just great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Typhoid Mary in my opinion, mysterious criminal shows up in

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<v Speaker 1>town and is she a mutant?

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<v Speaker 3>What does she want?

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<v Speaker 1>Does she hate Daredevil?

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<v Speaker 3>Does she love him?

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh. It a lot of twists and turns, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a super formative plot arc when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid first reading comments this is like this was

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<v Speaker 1>like the third or fourth comic I ever bought. Was

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the stereosatory line.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ali.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is one of the few comics where I've

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<v Speaker 2>made That's one of the few runs where I still

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<v Speaker 2>have the whole arc because I just think it's so

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<v Speaker 2>important and it is like some of the best JR

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<v Speaker 2>jr r. It's super loose, he's really finding himself. Him

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<v Speaker 2>and Annie are like a They're a match made in heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>That's That's definitely one of the best Dead Ever runs

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<v Speaker 2>you can read. So ten out of ten agree with

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<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Go read it now, see you next time, See you

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<v Speaker 3>next time.

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