WEBVTT - Just Jenn: The Boys of Summer 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, you guys. It's just Jen and I'm here with 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:08.280 just Jesse and just Carl. I am sitting with my 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:12.559 friends Carl Radkey and Jesse Solomon. Do not be jealous. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.080 I know that you are. Thank you guys so much 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.279 for coming. I really appreciate it. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:18.560 I love your outfit today. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:19.160 I know. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:20.920 But I saw you and I was. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.320 Like, I have to say. The boys both gave me, yeah. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:26.799 You should. You should do a TikTok fit. Check. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.520 This is why I have boys from Summerhouse. Okay, I know. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:32.159 And by the way, let me just put this out 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.160 there to the universe. I'm not against having a woman 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.159 from Summerhouse come on to my podcast. It's starting to 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.840 look like things are a little slanted here, a little 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.839 lopsided here. Yeah, they are a little bit. I have 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.200 to say, if I'm on a side, I definitely side 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.760 with maybe the boys on Summerhouse. I probably shouldn't say that, 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:50.640 but now it's out there. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:51.680 There's no sides. 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:56.480 There are sides. There are always really family. Oh yes, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:58.240 one big, happy, dispunctional family. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.800 I think there's topical sides, you know, like a particular 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.920 moment where it's like, well, Kyle was maybe over over 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:06.760 overstepped or. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.479 Yes, but those are discussions, those are arguments. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:11.680 Those are not I'm wrong. There's sides. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.480 Well I mean listen, I'm on or was on, or 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.200 maybe ever will be and who knows what's going to 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.840 happen again with the Housewives of New Jersey, there were sides, 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.560 and you better think it through before you picked the side. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.480 So what's unique about Summerhouse to some degree is we 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.120 we get to like enjoy staying with each other. Imagine 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.399 if you guys lived with each other for like three months. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:31.800 as you already. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.720 Issues like honey, there would be no one that would 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:35.559 come out of that alive. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.560 I know. Well, that's what makes us what we do 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.839 so unique is like we'll do a dinner and usually 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.480 with your dinners or an event, you all get to 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.600 go to your separate homes. Yes, we still have to 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.880 go home with each other and like a lot of 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.120 times we think we're off camera, but there's cameras obviously 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.240 still in the home in the rooms, so you're maybe 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.880 a little bit more loose. That's when all that's where 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:54.480 they get a lot of the good stuff is on 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.000 our show is when they it's the security. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.440 They never go down. They're like everywhere Carrie, it's. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.720 Always how do you do that? 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:01.440 All right? 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.760 Hold on, hold on, hold on. They're taking over, the 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.520 boys are taking over. I'm not having it, okay, It's 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.880 all about just Jen, Just Jen. So I just want 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:11.919 to tell you guys, first of all, to our listeners. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.080 So I met Carl rad Key great story in an 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:19.079 airport on my way to on our way to Bravo Khan. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.200 So we were we were in the lounge. We were 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.600 like in the Delta lounge, right or whatever it was. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.320 In the morning yep. And on the shoulder. Yeah. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:28.959 She was like, what are you doing over here? Yes? 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.320 And I was hiding because going to Bravo Kahn last year, 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.959 I was very nervous and just very over with good reason, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.120 having to face a lot of the stuff, yes, the breakup, 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.520 but you and Derinda were very very kind your husband 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.080 as well. Yes, I'll never forget that Delta lounge Roan, 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.079 because I was so nervous going to Brabacon, but you 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.720 both made me feel really good. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.000 Well. The thing is that I didn't really know the 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.320 story at that point going into it, and all I 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.880 saw was this very distraught looking young man. I was 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.280 do you I felt sick for you, like I started, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.400 like when the story started coming out, and I don't 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.200 I don't know the woman who will remain nameless for 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.359 our purposes today, but I don't know. I just was like, 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.639 who is this poor man? And who what horrible woman 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.079 has done this to him? And you just were so sad. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:15.960 And I was. It was It was a tough time. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.040 And yes, you know I was in love with her 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.160 and wanted things to work out, but I think we 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.440 all agree and it was better for us to go 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.280 different directions. You'll see even on the new upcoming season 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.240 how post you know, break up and after the reunion 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.040 everything kind of unfolds. But yeah, I mean I think 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.240 we both are separately really happy and healthy. 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:36.320 I'm very glad to hear that. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:37.960 So it all in a weird way, it kind of 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:39.000 went the right way. I guess. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:40.640 I just think that sometimes people think that the one 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.040 who does the breaking up is not affective. But I'm 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.240 telling you, if anyone's out there is wondering this poor boy, 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.600 I think, like brob Conn, I probably text you like 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.480 six times like are you okay? 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:51.360 Very cool? 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.760 I mean I was, you know, there was all the 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.440 sand of all stuff and the scan of all stuff 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:55.720 going on. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:56.080 Right. 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.640 I remember hearing the booze for him when he went 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.600 onto the panel, and when we got on our panel, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.840 I don't recall hearing booze, but it was funny. After 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.240 that day, I went to check social media and there 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:07.800 was lots of videos, posts, and there was a fair 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.440 amount of booing. But Carl, it is what it is. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.280 It's a year ago. I'm much happier and healthier now. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:14.400 I'm so glad. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.360 I needed some time to kind of regroup and recover. 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.120 And you'll see even on the new season, I'm. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:20.400 Becoming laughing about over here. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.680 He was not okay. It'd be weird if he was okay. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.920 Yeah, okay, But don't you think that, like you didn't 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.560 get a lot of grace from That's that's the nature 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.320 I guess of these shows. But I mean, I again, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:32.760 I didn't know the story. All I saw was this 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.839 very sad looking young man. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.839 Yeah. I got a lot of grace from people. That 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.280 It's more grace than I thought. I mean, people came 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.960 up to me at Bravo Con, A lot of fans 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.799 and people I've met at other bravocns were very complimentary 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.720 and kind. I had. Really to this day, I've never 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.400 really had anybody come up to my face and say 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.360 anything negative about it that situation at all. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.080 The online yes, but nothing right. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.960 So what are they called something warriors keyboard? The keyboard? 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.320 Yeah, West says the same thing. He's like, nobody's ever 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.000 been me into my face. So if you just put 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.760 your phone away, it's pretty much like the same life. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.840 I mean, I have to say, like I am, it's 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.640 not going to seem like that after this, but I 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.600 am a girl's girl, like I really am. God, I've 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.200 always had a ton of girlfriends, and yet I was 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.200 I shouldn't say what the hell's who cares? But I mean, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.000 I just I felt so bad for West. I thought, 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.760 and I watched that last reunion and I was like, this, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.400 poor little puppy dog, Like. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.600 I don't think I knew. I mean when I went 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.200 in that morning, we were getting ready in the green room, 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.560 I don't think any I mean, I didn't expect some 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.120 of that. It looked like, you know, West was kind 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:39.600 of on his heels a little bit too. I don't 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.200 know if he was fully prepared for what the reunion 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.160 really is. Like, it's a big thing. There's a lot 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:45.240 of emotion, a lot of fe. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.800 I messaged him the day before and I was like, hey, Bud, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.880 you ready for Barrow, Like what are you going to say? 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.320 And he's like, I don't know. I hadn't really thought 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.359 about it, like maybe this, And I was like, you 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.640 shouldn't say that, like how about this? And he said 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.599 exactly what he had told me. Yeah, And it didn't 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.880 go well. I think you just sort of apologized more 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.320 for any mishaps. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.200 I don't know. I mean, people break up, you know, 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.360 it's like, but people are so invested in in when 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.240 you're on one of these shows, they're so invested in you. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.120 I'm thinking way more you all than me, but like 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.040 they've become so invested in right there anyway. 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.640 Well, I mean with those two, I mean they were 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.680 it was a real real thing, Like that's what's so. 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.680 It was the summer when we were they were exploring 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.680 that relationship. It was fun to watch them. Yeah that, 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.800 I mean, we were all rooting for West and Sierra, right. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.680 Obviously it takes two to tango and it didn't materialize, 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.440 you know more than that. But I think at the 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:39.839 end of the day, I mean, I thought the reunion 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.479 it was good that, like Sierra got all that out 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.520 and West was able to Like I felt like there 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.880 was some growth from all of that. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.400 You know. I think that part of it is a 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.800 me thing in that I watch sometimes reunions or I 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.680 don't like I don't like to see people get bully 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:55.880 I'm tired of that. But I don't like to see 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.400 people get ganged up on, no matter what happened. Like, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.400 for instance, I'm the only human talking who was I'm 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.160 not going to say I was team Raquel Raach whatever 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.440 her name is. I think it's Rachel, Rachel, Raquel whatever 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.760 that one. Yes, and scannedival sand of bal whatever they 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.400 but like so I didn't watch the whole season, but 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.960 when I saw that reunion, I was sick. I felt 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.800 so badly for that girl and I realized she slept 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.000 with her best friends or she was together and she 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.000 lied about it and she was a skanky cheat and 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.040 whatever the hell it was. But it got to a 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.360 point where I was like, this is not okay. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.920 Yeah, I mean, girls are going to be girls girls though, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.120 and I respect that, like they're best friends. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:34.320 Oh you just suck up. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:38.320 I mean it's true, Like it's Paige was going to 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:39.840 have Sierra's back ten times. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:41.840 I don't mean that one necessarily. I'm really talking about 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.480 more of the Rachel raquel that when that went down 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.640 on that reunion, that was like they went full force. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.880 Yeah, there was, I mean there was a lot that 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.600 was an intense I mean we I'm friends with fair 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.440 amount of them. You know. I was talking to Celia 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.120 earlier from my heart here and mentioning, you know, our 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.320 first episode of Summer Else in the history of the 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.560 show was with Katie, Kristen Stoss and Sheena, you know, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.200 so we have a close relationship with Vanner Pump crew. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.360 It was difficult to watch that because you know, you're 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.680 friends with everybody. I don't I'm upset with Sandoval obviously, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.200 but it was a weird situation to kind of watch 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:21.040 because you know them so personally, but everybody's so angry, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.000 so much vitriol. Yes, and I almost feel like the 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.840 audience had so much to say that the cast almost 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:29.559 like took that and gave it back. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.360 I think that's probably true. I think that actually is 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:32.920 very true. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.320 That is, I like, we just honest theory I have. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:36.960 But again, yeah, when. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.440 You're very right, because then all of a sudden, You're 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.200 so empowered because you take a step back, you see 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.360 how the world stands behind you. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.959 I mean, even James Kenny was selling merchandise about the breakup, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.960 like that's that's a people were leaning in, you know, 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.280 And I get it, like that kid is take advantage 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:52.400 of it. 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:53.920 I think that kids sell them much right now. But 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.200 I don't know. I don't know what We're not going 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:59.000 to go there. Yeah, you're okay, Jesse. So this is 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.800 how I met Jesse because Carl introduced me to Jesse 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:06.680 when I wrote my world renowned song Teams Divided. You 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.080 may have missed it. It's on the Peacock version didn't 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.680 make it to the actual version of the Real Housewives 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:16.200 of New Jersey. I know so, but unlike Jesse didn't 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.240 get right in the main cut. And I said to Carl, 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.640 is there any way can reach out to Jesse Solomon, 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.000 because clearly the boy knows how to write songs. And 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.040 it became this huge hit as well, And I said, Jesse, 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.360 can I make any money from this? And he said no, 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.839 he said, but you have yourself a good old time there. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.840 Yeah, ladies, it wasn't a money making endeavor. It was 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:41.640 more just like a fun moment, and I mean, maybe 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.839 I'll have a music career. I've been writing music and 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.840 recording and eventually could perform and do live shows, hopefully 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:49.400 this summer. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:50.480 That's really cool. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.120 Yeah, but this streaming is not going to be where 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.559 you make your money unless you're getting like billions of stream. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.680 Right, it's like you make like literally like I think 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.920 it's point one set. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.040 Everybody's got their hands in the cookie jar. Yes, but 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.600 I think it was like that moment where Jesse, I mean, 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.400 the whole what would Jesse Solomon do became this joke 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.240 that Kyle was kind of screwing around, and then it 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.120 kind of stuck. And then Jesse obviously was telling us 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:18.360 about his background. He studied vocal dress jazz in college. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.840 Like he was, you know, when we're getting ready, you know, 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.679 a Drake song comes on, and there was a song 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.680 and from that summer I'll never forget. And it's like 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.120 all of these hoes and like Jesse would take his 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.080 like jazz tone and turn like an explicit rap song 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.320 but in his jazz voice to play it. 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:37.320 Do they have it? They catch it? 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:38.800 I mean just around the house and stuff, but you 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.840 could hear him sing and you're actually realizing Jesse's really good. Yeah, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.520 and then as the summer, you know, was coming to 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.160 an end, he put together just a fun thing to 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.360 sing for us and kind of like end the summer. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.760 It was awesome, but it was so in that moment 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.160 we're all like it was real. It was amazing. But 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.080 then yeah, he released the track. There was a couple 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:55.719 of remixes. 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.320 Yeah, and listen, I didn't do it perfectly. I like 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.680 was so far behind releasing it, like I should have 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.080 released it with the episode. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.319 But we got it out. We put it together now. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:06.440 But I think it wouldn't have mattered. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.320 But you're sick of it now, and I'm like, I'm sorry, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:10.440 it's just one. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.360 People just ask me for more every day. They just 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.800 want another. Not really, I'm sick of it. Actually, teams divided. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.240 I know, it's so point you need another single now? Yeah, 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.880 I know. It was probably the most fun thing that 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.800 I did of everything in terms of just like it's 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.760 so creative. It was for me. I mean, it was 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.000 so silly. There was nothing I didn't I didn't write 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.440 this ballad or this. You know, it wasn't but it 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.920 was fun. It's really for me. It was really fun 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.760 just to put those just point music. 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.720 Like with a lot of these shows, like you have 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.120 to contribute and bring you know, your life and your 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.080 story to it. And what I think makes shows like 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.440 yours or ours like really unique is you have really 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.200 dynamic people bringing like I mean, he wrote a song 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.640 like he's on Spotify, like he's a singer, and he's 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.480 been recorded like it was sat It's unexpected, but I 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.000 think it makes what we do so much more unique. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.360 I agree that's summer forever, be concrete. It in our 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.680 minds and will always remember what would Jesse Solomon do? 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.240 And I think that's a really special. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.320 Thing I do too. You're such a sweetheart of a 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:13.600 mass philosophical. He's philosophical, he's kind, he's generous. Seriously, Okay, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:14.000 trust me. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.079 I don't have it all figured out, but I certainly try. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.320 And you're supportive of each other, and I love that. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:19.960 I love Jesse. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.240 He's been a really good addition to the group, but 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:23.880 also for me as a friend. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.960 I've really really do you guys hang out like separately 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:27.720 and yeah. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.680 We talk. I mean we're both like we both have 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.720 a lot going on, but I mean, he's we have 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.079 I think some similarities and some differences. But what's funny 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:35.600 is I almost see myself and him. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.320 At that's stop taking it over here, that is my question. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.480 Well, Carl's just like happy to have somebody else besides. 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.040 I was there remember any other guys on Summerhouse? 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.560 Well there was a funny season where I walked into 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.680 the house and one of the guys Chris. At that 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.680 summer I basically was like, all right, where are the guys? 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:53.880 Like? 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:56.160 I like this? 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.360 But Kyle and I, you know, we've we were best buddies. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.360 We have a lot of fun together. But it's nice 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.720 when you have another layer of energy. Of course, Jesse 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.640 brings something different than I did, you know, and that's 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.040 something you know we've. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.120 What does he bring this different? 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.679 Carl's like I was an alcoholic age and now Jesse 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.000 is a cocaine at it. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:17.920 I know I could be wrong. Are you a big partier? 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.720 I mean, I will say Jesse's able to his behavior 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.800 like he can he can handle himself. He doesn't have 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.600 like those crazy outbursts like they would have. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.839 And his no, I didn't mean you Actually. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:31.679 There's a lot more healthy than mine. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:32.840 Let's just got it. 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:34.560 Got it. But like, do you feel like you've taken 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.080 the role because you always need a partier, right, you 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.200 can't like it's hard to do it with if everybody 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.360 is going to be like sober and thoughtful and you 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.120 know that's actually well, I mean it is to us. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.559 Yeah, it's it's hard to take nights off in the Summerhouse. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:55.280 But I definitely drink a lot just more over the 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.040 Summer West is like the top partier in the group 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:58.480 for sure. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.119 Yeah, but yeah, I mean you you were hitting equinox, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.920 you know. I think, to be fair, it's you are 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.960 also like when you have a big night, you're still 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.720 getting up and trying to work out or yeah, I 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.000 try to be healthy. He's he's a pretty healthy guy, 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.560 and I think it's inspiring to have a guy like 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.240 that around to like keep things. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.160 I wasn't drinking martinis before. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:19.480 By confessionals, Do you feel like it helps that's the 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:20.280 thing for. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.280 First five seasons of Summerhouse, right, do you think. 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:24.600 It helped you, especially in your first season? 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.520 Chair Carl has incredible stories. Really, I was I parted 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.680 pretty hard early on whether the camera was rolling or not. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.800 I didn't think about it. It just I would show up 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.120 to interviews sometimes. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.560 And do you think it helped? Do you think that 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:38.080 it Like. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.359 I'm not going to say it helped, but it's always. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.400 To help you and your life and your psyche. But 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:44.400 do you think that it did? 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.680 You know you might have? Yeah, I think it created. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.320 I almost had like a version of myself that was, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.840 like my mom called it, it's like watching you on steroids, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.240 like it's you, but it's not you. You're like this. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.280 That must have been hard for her to watch. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.520 She jokes that she used to throw stuff at the TV. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:14:59.880 Yeah, no doubt. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.960 It's easy in this world to end up drinking every 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.040 night because we go to events and stuff and you 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:06.880 just kind of have to pick and choose. So like 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.280 sitting down in a confessional chair at two o'clock, I 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:11.480 try not to have a drink. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.000 Yeah, So I was. I would go back and forth 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.400 with it, like is it a good idea for me 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:20.320 to take an edible before the reunion? Is it a 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:20.840 good idea? 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:21.040 No? 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.480 Not a good idea? Is it a good idea? Or 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.600 even like before you know, filming confessionals, like should I 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.720 or anything? I was really nervous about the finale? Should 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.400 I take half his his annex, well half it, like 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.000 will that work to make it? And I always got 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:35.680 back to not because when you fuck it up and 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.480 you're going to then like, if you fuck it up 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.080 and you're not there's nothing in your system, then it's 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:42.560 just it's fine, you did the best you could. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.480 Yeah, it's you, right. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.360 But if you fuck it up and it's because you 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.000 did an edible and you made it, ask of yourself 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.680 not so like you never forgive yourself so I didn't. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:50.760 Yeah that's good. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:51.320 Well you're being you. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.160 I mean you're showing that fear and that maybe that 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.400 stress you're having about whatever you were going to talk about. Yeah, 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.800 but the more like sober you are, the more real 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.720 or what you're sharing will be. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:02.360 It's very true. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.000 You'll if you're taking his ANXT, you're like, god, it's fine, right, right, 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.320 it's not really who you are. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.640 And there's a very fine line when filming. If you 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.720 have one drink maybe loosens you up a little bit. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.800 Two drinks, okay, don't have another one because like if 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.560 I have three or four drinks and try to film 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:19.239 a scene. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:21.200 I have you done that? 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.000 I mean, yeah, we have parties all the time, and 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.400 all of a sudden somebody pulls you over to chat 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.600 and you're just like, you can't remember what you were 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.160 trying to say, and you're just not good at your job. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:42.920 Right now, we've had the drinking discussion. Now we're going 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.760 to talk girls. It's good because I know that's what 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:50.120 everybody listening really wants to know about. And so Carl, 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:50.920 you are still. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.920 Yeah, I'm single. I mean I've been, I've being on 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.840 some dates. You're putting myself back out there. But you'll 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.080 see on the new season, which, yeah, it took me 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:59.760 some time to get kind of back to my own, 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:01.720 getting my confidence. 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:03.920 I saw the celibacy comment or whatever. 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.399 Yeah, I mean I just full transparency. I mean I 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:13.160 have broke the streak already since Dog, but no, I 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.560 it took me some time just. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.920 To imagine that girl, you know, and that you broke 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:17.480 the streak with. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.880 I admitted that until it happened. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:21.840 And where is she now? 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.760 She's in New York, pissed. No, we've texted and just 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.280 it never really materialized much after the summer. But okay, again, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.560 I being a very public person and been on this 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.760 show for quite some time now, it presents some a 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.720 layer of challenge sometimes with meeting and dating of course, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.920 so I've I've had some things where you know, people 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.000 maybe have other ulterior motives or someone that I'm interested 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:47.879 in just doesn't want anything to do with this, right, 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:49.640 you know, So it can be either way, but which 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:50.560 is understandable. 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:52.960 If I wasn't going to be on the show, I 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.159 would not want to be on the show. And what 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.760 I mean by that is like, if I was a 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.639 main character on the show, that's great. Your life is 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.040 in the public eye and whatever, you get the benefits. 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.800 But if you're just like a partner of someone and 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.359 like you just have your life on display for no 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.359 good reason and you're working a corporate job, like it 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.119 can bring a lot of well drama. 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.280 I will tell you that my husband is a corporate 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:19.119 attorney and he is an introvert. He is like this 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.280 this shot. I mean, you would think not in business. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:23.920 He's not shy and not really when you know him, 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.280 but he's like put, we're polar opposites, and there's no 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.920 one that loves being on this show and he loves 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:34.320 as Jeff Wessler. It is so stupid he is, and 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:35.400 it's it's actually like. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.919 Now, has that created any kind of polarization with like 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:39.720 his legal career. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:43.840 Or no, as a matter of fact, he has new clients. No, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.760 I don't know that's got new clients. But he gets 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.760 like he goes places, he goes to whatever holiday parties 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.800 now and it's like a whole thing and it's whoa 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.159 excuse me? Are you just do whatever? So he he 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.040 just he thinks it's like it's so awesome. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.359 It is not now was he? Was he that recept 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.240 like when you got the the concept. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.639 If he pushed my ass into it, he was like, 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.159 you have to do this, You'll never that's he did 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.160 it for himself. He has a great supportive husband all 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.280 for him. But he's like, we know, I don't think 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:17.359 he's we've hit any speed bumps. But I've said to him, like, dude, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.919 you're not doing going to the boys party whatever it is, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.080 So you're not going to whatever. Not that I can 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.280 tell him what to do, but I'm like, you have 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.679 to try to maintain you're not an entrepreneur like these guys, 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.800 like you have to maintain some dignity here. And if 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.359 it were up to him, he'd be in every scene. 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.840 So yeah, well, I will say that the New Jersey 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.439 Men it's it's entertaining to see just the dynamic of 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.520 some of the the energy and the boy they have 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:43.480 a funny group. 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:45.360 They have a funny group, and as a. 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.199 Group of guys on our side, it's fun to like 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.239 see how the older gentlemen are behaving. I mean they 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.560 still rip their shirts off, they're doing push ups, they're 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.000 yelling at each other, they're grilling, they're nuts. They're doing 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:55.919 stuff that we kind of do. 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.760 But and Jeff loves that because Jeff is like he's 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.199 so buttoned up a day to day, so like all 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.480 of a sudden, he's like thinks he's in like some frat. 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:05.960 He's amazing. 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:07.120 Yeah, yeah, I see. 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.080 I was like, I mean later stages. 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:12.600 To kind of be a jackass. 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.440 So the only time he got in trouble was recently 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:19.320 because from uh like one of the head partners because 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.160 I went into his office too and I was doing 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.399 some content whatever I hate that word, but I was 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.639 doing filming things on a camera on an iPhone and 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:30.840 my pr gu was like, whatever, we're going from a 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:32.840 room and I went into the copy room and I 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.040 pulled up They still called it you guys play, even 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.680 though what a xerox machine is okay. Well I pretended 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.240 I was, like I put my thing on, I put 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.000 my boobs on or whatever, and now I'm like job 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:42.760 And I thought it was. It was all so funny 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.720 until the morning when like the managing partner called him, 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:50.480 like the managing partner, Jeff listen, we have some partners 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.360 here that are not thrilled with the behavior of your wife. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.720 Basically banned from he works at thirty Rock. I'm like, 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:57.760 not allowed up there. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:20:59.760 On the zero. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:04.320 Actually do it? It was, it was. It was a 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.640 bit you don't want to believe me. You're okay without 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.199 a copy of that? All right? So wait, so girls, 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:11.800 so and I know if you guys probably get these 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:13.960 this constantly. Right, everyone wants to know what kind of 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.960 girl you like? What are you looking for? Right? No? 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.720 Yeah, no, yeah, I think, well, how are. 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:20.640 You meeting girls right now? 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:25.720 I mean hinch that. I don't do apps personally. I've 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.560 never done it again. I'm thirty nine, So the app 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.120 thing was a little later. In my kind of dating world. 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:35.160 The dating app, I believe is Instagram. Yeah, Ostagram, everybody's 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:36.119 on it. Do you do that? 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:36.760 Rya one? 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:41.159 I'm on Riya, but I haven't been meeting up with 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:42.679 a lot of people to go on dates. 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.920 What's the difference, Raya is just cooler, You're cooler, pretty accepted. 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:49.080 I believe it. Yeah, it's like these of dating apps, 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.480 but like if you want to get onto it, you 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:52.400 can figure it out. 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.360 I heard from one of my colleagues with that soft bar. 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.960 She's on Riya and she said that no one responds. 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:01.160 It's like this thing where it's cool to be seen 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:01.520 on it. 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:05.720 You're nodding about over there. Is that true? 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:05.840 Yeah? 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.399 Maybe, like it's fun like when you actually are looking 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.719 to make a move to ask someone out the like 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:14.959 return or like the actually really percentage that it actually lands. 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:15.560 She said. 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:17.760 I like, no one's really ever responded to any like 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.520 thing I've sent that. I don't know white people respond 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.639 to me, but I throw listen. 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.680 I like to meet people out there. 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:34.040 Is this guy, he's a professors, Scott Galloway. I don't know. 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:35.119 Yeah, I've heard of him. 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.119 Have you heard of him? So he's this professor. He 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.399 talks about the plight really of like young men in 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:43.720 our country and what's happening. He talks about a lot 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.320 of things, but you know, having these young men that 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.640 have had their head in their phone, swiping, swiping, swiping, 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:54.240 and are getting rejective, rejective, rejected, and you know, as 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:58.399 a result, I feel like shit about themselves because I 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.639 don't know what for the self or self esteem. And 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.720 now you're like not going out and you're not having 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.119 the experience of like going to a bar. And he 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.280 talks about the men, but I'm sure it goes both ways. 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.440 But like you know what the women are looking for. 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:16.800 Let's say it's tall. That's all I wanted when I 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.000 was fixed up, when I was at your age, I 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.280 was like, he just has to be tall. He doesn't 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.240 have to be gorgeous. I don't. He doesn't have to 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.080 be rich, he does have to be ambitious, because my 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.840 grandmother Nana used to say, he doesn't have to be rich, 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.680 he has to be ambitious. But tall is the number one. 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.639 My husband's five to five. So but I'm saying, like 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.119 you can put it out all out there. I broke 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:39.000 one hundred percent, broke my rule. 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.239 But he's the ambitious he yes, so he makes up 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:44.680 for the ambition with yes. 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:46.639 He just wore me down in the end, But like 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.199 that's also part of it, Like no, because that is 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.040 a real, but because when you're just behind your phone 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:54.639 but you're both saying you love. But it must be 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.040 fun for you guys to go out because you're you. 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.000 So you get to go out and like, you know, 0:23:58.040 --> 0:23:59.679 you walk into a bar and you're both you know, 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:01.680 good looking and TV stars. 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.480 So I spend half the year in Miami, and Miami 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:05.880 nobody knows who I am. 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.960 For the part I can't confirm. We we visited Jesse 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.920 Kyle West, and I went down for Kyle had a 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:13.879 DJ gig, but we were out and about with Jesse. 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:16.560 It was funny, like we were just regular Miami guys 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.160 that night, you know, we had his group of friends 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.160 and we met up and it was fun. But it 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.040 wasn't like it is in New York City or like an. 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:23.760 Hour we walked into a bar in New York and 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.119 it's like can we get a picture? Which is it's fun, 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.359 it's fun, but it's not Miami. It wasn't like that. 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.480 It was you know, almost everybody was just kind of 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:33.719 in their own group of friends and doing their own thing. 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:35.600 Maybe they noticed us from Afar, but. 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.800 They're like, who are those tall guys? You know, two 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:40.480 six for five guys Jabroni's. 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:46.280 They're from the Jewish Basketball League's Jabroni is like a squid, 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:47.959 like a wet noodle. 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.480 Grabroni is something that you're like kind of floppy, Like 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.440 you're so tall that you're just like weird looking. 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.399 No, you're like a goofball, You're like a you're corny, 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:56.439 you're kind of a weirdo. 0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.840 Yeah, Gibroni is a loser. Jayne the Rock Johnson used 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:04.240 to call people jibbroni's with his character of The Rock. Yeah, 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.760 on his wrestling career, he'd call you like you little Jibbroni, Wow, 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:09.080 and it's like, you're kind of a loser. 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.520 I'm learning things, learning new things all the time. I 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:12.680 love hanging out with the young people. 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:14.080 We'll keep you on teach some things. 0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:18.600 Tell me, so okay, I'm gonna try to stay on topic. Carl, 0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:20.040 tell me the kind of girl you're looking for. And 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:22.719 obviously it doesn't matter because in the end you're going 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.920 to say all of these things, and some they're just 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:27.800 going to show up and you're gonna die a little 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.680 bit inside and then that will be that. But what 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:30.720 do you think you're looking for? 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:35.879 You know, I appreciate that's not a requirement though, I 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.639 think just a healthy relationship with alcohol or other substances. 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.320 But I mean, honestly, like I've I'd like to think 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.280 that I could date someone that has a healthy relationship 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:45.919 with alcohol. I still love being social. 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.440 She likes benefits and her mushroom goffees. 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.440 Functional benefits in her drinks. 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:51.520 What does that mean? 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:52.919 That's a soft bar thing. 0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:56.000 He's trying to mushrooms at the softbar. 0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:57.920 Healthy mushrooms not psychedelic. 0:25:58.160 --> 0:25:59.399 I don't give a ship what they are as long 0:25:59.400 --> 0:25:59.800 as they make. 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.480 You, They make you happy, make you feel good. We 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.679 certain no, not psychic at all. It's adaptogen and new 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.840 tropic mushroom. People take them every morning as like a 0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:10.560 morning you take vitamins in the morning. 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.200 Do you hear good things about mushrooms telling you? 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:18.000 Quote me right now, every major hospitality, coffee shop, bar 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.159 in the next five years is going to have a 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:21.440 mushroom drink on the menu. 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:25.119 Heard it here first, I'm writing it down around it. 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.560 It's changing like people have it in drinks canned beverages. Now, 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.440 when when you walk into a bar or a coffee shop, 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:33.720 you'll be able to add that into your beverage a 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:34.600 functional ingredient. 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.600 I love that. I would love to find something I 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:40.040 could do that's not alcohol that makes me feel like 0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:46.119 socially like am out. Yeah, but I'll take a small 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.080 gummy or smoke like a pen or something if I'm out. 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:53.240 But it doesn't do the same thing alcohol though. Yeah, yes, 0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:55.720 maybe it's functional mushrooms. 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.040 Right, Maybe you. 0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:58.440 Were asking what I'm looking for in a woman and 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.439 we got into mushrooms. It's talk about when I. 0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:02.560 Can always be sidetracked if you're going to talk about 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:04.879 anything of a loucinogen, what I'm looking for. 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:06.680 Or what I'm like. 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:09.679 Intelligence is important to me. I like someone that can 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.600 hold a good conversation. I like some depth, like emotional 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.120 intelligence where I've been through a fair amount of things. 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:16.920 I don't want to trauma dump on someone the first 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.479 two minutes, but but I will. But yeah, well, there 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:22.640 are inherently some things that have been very public about 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:26.159 my life, you know, certain things that people know me 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.159 for to some degree. You know, I've been through some 0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.200 stuff and I I'm not expecting someone to like baby 0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.200 me or anything, but someone who can have some grace 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:34.840 and understanding around someone, Honey. 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.560 I'm not Listen, you're young to me, but like at 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.120 thirty eight, there's no one that hasn't had that doesn't. 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.080 Have stuff totally. 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:42.920 So that's the good news. You're not going to meet 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.600 a woman who has not been by thirty eight. 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:47.240 But then outside of that, you know, I love it. 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.600 I'm goofy. I'm a kind of a silly guy. I 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:51.199 like to make jokes, and I want someone that can 0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.760 bring that out of me. So someone who's witty or funny, right, 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.119 and someone who ambition. I like someone who's active and 0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.800 likes to work out. Uh. And then obviously physically, I 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.400 mean I'm six to five, there is like a height 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.320 cutoff for me because if I'm getting up to talk 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.640 to you and I got to go, how are you harro? 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:10.800 I like tiny? 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:11.679 You like tiny? 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:12.720 Yeah, he likes doing that. 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.240 Okay wait wait wait wait okay, so but yet so 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.760 physically as you can't just stop there. So hopefully tall 0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.960 ish so not doesn't have to be someone could be 0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:22.440 five to five. 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.879 I dated like five eleven in college. I dated some 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:29.760 Syracuse women's volleyball players. But as I've gotten older, I 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.400 mean five seven, five eight around that I think fits 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.520 really well in tiny for me is like five six. 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.680 By the way, really that's tiny. That's not tiny. Yeah, 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.320 that's me actually so and no one's ever called me 0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.960 tiny so physically. Also, just elaborate for a moment. 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.760 I'd like to I've had this thought in my head 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.960 that a brunette would look really good. 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.840 With me with you, because it's about how somebody would. 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.880 Look with you, right, I mean, I think you're I've 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.560 always been attracted to brunettes. However, I have dated blondes. 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.080 I'm attracted them all colors, shapes and sizes, yes, but 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.040 in this particular moment I'm looking for, I think brunette. Okay, 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.480 I really like light eyes. 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.400 Really notice that common theme doesn't matter, blonde or burnett. 0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.640 What color are your eyes? Like a brown hazel? 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.880 My daughter has uh, blue eyes, but we already discussed 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:20.480 that that's not going to happen for you, my friend. 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.040 Okay, And I'm going to add one last thing that 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:26.240 I'm looking for. I do appreciate someone that doesn't necessarily 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.280 they can put on makeup and get dulled up, but 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.920 for their core, like without it, they're very pretty and 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:36.000 just naturally, you know, look good. Yes, they could write 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.160 I think you know, I've I just would like that. 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:39.640 I guess you want to wake up in the morning 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.040 and get like fucking scared, right right. 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:44.520 Well, I think is that scared? I think just some 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.680 people could look like I think women are very pretty 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.840 without makeup on or post workout or I know it's 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.640 every guy says that, right, you know, like just with 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.200 your sweatpants all you're so hot. 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:53.520 Right. 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.280 However, I think women don't realize, like when you get 0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:04.280 all dulled like you know many jacket blazers dressing. Yeah, 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.480 I have to literally get a dry clean twice because 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:07.960 all the makeup that's all over my ship. 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.440 Like women, I know you weren't I know you weren't. 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.440 All right, jess uh my type? 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.880 Yes, yeah, my type. I haven't really figured it out 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.320 a lot of the things Carl said. I need somebody intelligent, 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:43.680 somebody sweet and cute and just like a good mother 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:48.480 to my future children, somebody that wants kids and active 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:49.240 works out. 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:54.000 So here's my question. Do you think about the women 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.040 that you have had relationships with, do they fit that 0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:57.760 mold what you just described. 0:30:58.680 --> 0:30:59.320 Yeah, for the. 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.520 Most part, but there's some things missing, I would say, Okay, 0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:05.560 And it also wasn't the right time. 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.320 Okay I was too young, Yeah, I would say I 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:13.440 would flip it. I wasn't ready for you know, my 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.240 previous relationships. They certainly may have had those qualities, but 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.200 I wasn't the version that they were looking for. 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:18.840 In return. 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.280 I always think that, like, no matter what the timing is, 0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:26.760 no matter what your requirements are, like when something happens, 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:32.120 when like the pheromones start popping and everything else goes away, 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.120 all the all the different rules. But let me ask 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:35.920 you this, because I asked Wes about West about this, 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:42.560 So are you guys attracted to Himen? Usually? So he 0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:46.000 was saying he likes the chase the key would prefer 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.400 even though we didn't like it, maybe in the moment, 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.400 but he does better with women that do put up 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.560 a bit, Yes, of a challenge, don't get they We 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.920 shouldn't put it like that. But yes, yes, yes, you. 0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:57.800 Have to work to work. 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.600 If I say that, it does it matter how quickly 0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.600 you hook up with someone, whether that's proven true or not. 0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.000 Is another Well you tell me from your own experience. 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.360 I mean, listen, everybody likes a little bit of a chase, 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.800 But that's not to say that if I hooked up 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.520 with somebody like two dates in, I couldn't actually really 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.240 like them and have a relationship with them. 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.360 Well two dates in is holding out these days? I 0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:23.320 feel like so in a little bit now, Okay. 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.200 Yeah, I would say having sex on a first date 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:26.720 is rare. 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.120 Really you went to college. 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:33.320 Well, you don't go on like super formal dates in college, right, 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.160 I think you have to go out. Yeah, it's like 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:36.960 a one night stand. You just meet someone and the 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.040 pheromones are rushing. There isn't a date at all. It's 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.880 just back to your place, maybe a minor hangout and 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:42.920 the sleeping because it. 0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:44.560 Felt it feels like to me, like my both my 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.840 kids now graduated from college. But I don't know when 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:49.400 I would go there, even when I would like be 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.800 around their friends, Like everybody was just slipping in and 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.360 out of beds and it was like a different time. 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:55.960 I mean, I don't know. 0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:00.200 Well, hook up culture is prevent culture. Yeah, it's thing, 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:01.120 but it shifted. 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.360 I mean not to date myself too much, but I 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:08.600 mean Facebook was started my freshman year I was at 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.680 Syracuse University. I had a friend who went to Harvard 0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.520 who had told me about it, but it didn't His name. 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.840 Isn't he the one the event? 0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.440 It was Tyler Winklevoss. 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.960 Oh what right? One of those twins, the. 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.959 Twins whose idea originally was right. But they're doing really well. 0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:25.880 They have cryptocurrency. 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:26.600 How do you know this? 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:27.480 Why do you know that? 0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:30.200 So much stuff? 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.520 Gemini, Billboard and Times. I pay attention to everything. Okay, 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:39.360 Harvard Facebook. So sophomore year at Syracuse Facebook landed because 0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.760 you had to have a university email to get an account, 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.000 and Facebook only started in the northeast Ivy League schools 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:49.280 and like Cornell, Syracuse and like Battle, when Facebook came 0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.840 on campus, it changed everything for hook up culture. You 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:56.800 could poke people, you could see what looked like poke 0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.840 they you could see the sorority cruise right. You could 0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:04.960 identify people that you wouldn't otherwise meet unless you actually 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.400 went up to them in real life and said, who 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.800 are you? Right, you now have all this information, So 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.399 I believe it all changed at that point. 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.200 Don't you think that that's like what we were talking 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.480 about a little bit before. But like, that's part of 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.480 the issue is meeting like this whole swipe culture, right, 0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.800 and not being able to actually talk to someone and 0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:22.640 look them in the eye. 0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:24.800 And you know, well, I think it goes for like 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.360 professional careers. Yeah, I mean I get emails sent to me, 0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.120 and the communication quality it's pretty poor. I mean obviously 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.920 with texting and shorter communications, but like if you can 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:40.400 speak well and write well and communicate like professionally and personally, 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.400 you're going to have a pretty good life. These days, we're. 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.480 Talking about people being alone by themselves and not being 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:47.960 able to hook up with people, and now we're saying 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:48.960 there's hookup culture. 0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:50.799 There's just like different. 0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.040 Types of different right. No, I'm not I'm not loyal 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.040 saying anything. We're just shooting the ship. But what I'm 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.040 thinking is that in college there I think it's a 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.760 huge hookup culture after college when you're young and you're single. 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.160 But I think that there are a lot of men 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.279 now and that are having a hard time because they're 0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.040 not many people hook up cultures, just the way in 0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:10.040 which people meet each other. 0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.400 In the app, I was just saying, I think a 0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.440 lot of men at least. What I am just being 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.960 completely honest, Like there's a lot of porn. Instagram to 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.680 some degree is soft porn. So you have all this 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:22.040 oh you're watching I mean, look at our the girls 0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.239 of Summerhouse. How far our girls look amazing like it? 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.880 Do you see Instagram pictures that aren't porn? 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:27.279 Yes? 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:31.279 The girls, all the girls, all the girls get such 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.400 good rate. What I'm saying is Instagram in a weird 0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.160 way is not unlike soft porn to some degree. Yes, no, 0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.680 but everybody wants it in real life. Agreed. But I 0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.239 think for men that become you get so accustomed to 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:47.719 like being on this app, and like you lose the 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:52.560 ability to generate a genuine in real life connection, not 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.759 only because you already have all this information, but like 0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:57.799 just actually asking someone a question, learning, where are you from? 0:35:57.880 --> 0:35:58.600 Where'd you go to school? 0:35:58.640 --> 0:35:59.759 I guess what can ignite this? 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.920 You already have it all here? Yes, and if you 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.920 like so, I think men, unfortunately, if you don't get 0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:06.920 off social you're going to struggle in dating. 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:07.960 I agree. 0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:09.960 I mean, you need to be on there so you're 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.279 not a serial killer. But if that's how you're only 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.879 going to like find or search for people, I think 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:15.880 it's going to be a challenge. 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.840 Well you Also, this guy also says that like you 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.680 need to when you're young, go out there, like make 0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.920 bad decisions, screw it up. Like meet girls. 0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:27.799 Yeah, ask someone out and fall on your face and. 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.239 Fall on your face and get rejected and ask someone else, 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.359 ask someone out again. Like, I think that's a big 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:33.880 part of it, and. 0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.800 It's it's easy to be social in New York especially. 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.440 You can literally just go outside of your house if 0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:41.840 you don't like to drink, join a kickball league. You know, 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:43.600 there's plenty to do for everyone. 0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:49.240 Kickball, kickball, leak the summer house. Yeah, West put together summerhouse. 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.600 Guys are dorks? Do you say kickball league? 0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:51.920 Hey? 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:56.920 Girls like you Wes no dog wow. No, It's just 0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.359 like an easy game everybody can play well, I think, 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.920 with Jesse also adding to in New York and this 0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.799 is again something I see happening is how people are 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.719 gathering as groups of friends. The days of going to 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.480 the nightclub till four in the morning are shifting. Yes, 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.400 people still do that, but friends and people that are 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.480 trying to connect with each other are joining run clubs, 0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:20.800 They're joining community groups, yoga classes, berries, boot camps, kickball 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.359 leagues because it's something that's not just at a bar. 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:23.799 Right. 0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:25.880 Well, what happens at these kickball games is what do 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.200 you do after the game? Go to the door, hang out. 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.160 So it's social, it's it's how people meet each other. 0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:32.080 That's my issue with New York is I feel like 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:33.800 all there is to do is eat and drink, and 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.840 obviously there's museums and other stuff, but I think just 0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:40.359 like the amount of space you have here just kind 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:41.560 of makes me feel closet. 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:43.239 I mean in terms of what, like you can't go 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.839 on a hike, yeah, because I'm min's like, what else 0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.560 is there to do but eat and drink and like kind. 0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:51.840 Of go like to Upstate New York and go for 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.920 a hike, but I'm just not going to right. I 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.560 think the city does like not to make it about 0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:59.680 like I think when the city can have another side 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.719 to it. And I didn't know that until actually like 0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:04.960 stopped drinking. The museums, the art, the concerts. 0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:05.360 You do that stuff. 0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.400 Now I still do all of that, but it's actually 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.440 way more enjoyable because you don't realize how much is 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.920 in front of us. Where I was the previous ten 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:16.480 years in New York soho clubs, West Village bars, Brooklyn 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.759 after hours, I didn't I never been to Central Park 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:21.680 sober Wow until. 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:22.239 Twenty twenty one. 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.680 What were you doing in the park, drug drinking in 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.840 Sheep's meadow, having a great time like most people do. 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.120 But I never had an experience with New York, like 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:32.799 just realizing, Oh, like I went to a Broadway show 0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:34.520 two weeks ago with my parents. I'm like, oh, like, 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.440 this is like a what did you say? Book of Mormon? 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.600 I heard that, but that I enjoyed it, But I 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.480 will say Wicked is still better in my opening, I 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.560 enjoy Wicked more. I love South Park, and when I 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.120 watched Book of Mormon, it felt to me like a 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:54.120 bizarre South Park live action episode. Interesting because the tone 0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.399 of the jokes and the singing. It feels like bigger, longer, 0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.920 and uncut, which is one of their best South Park 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:00.800 movies early on. 0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.160 It's so funny because when I was your age is, 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.120 but I lived in New York for like eleven years. 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:09.600 And what neighborhood you live in? 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.920 All over the place. I was taking garbage bags of 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.080 clothes and moving from one shithole to the next, Like 0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.160 was your favorite years? Yeah? My favorite was my last 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:18.839 one on forty sixth and second. 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:20.480 And it was it's like Turtle Bay. 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.879 It is right by like Spark Steakhouse, and uh, Smith 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:29.600 and Lenski's right there. So anyway, I had this little 0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.359 hovel facing a brick wall. But it was the first one. 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.439 Really is that a Jewish word? No, a Yiddish word. 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.120 No, it means like a little hole, a little like shitty, 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.479 little holly small. I mean, I don't know if somebody 0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:41.920 look it up. 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.240 I was today years old when I learned to hovel. Wow, 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:45.200 see that? 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:45.920 What could happen to you? 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.480 If you come on, just Jen, just gen you get 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:49.120 the last. 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:55.400 A small, squalid, unpleasant or simply constructed dwelling. That was 0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.600 my favorite place to live in this novel because it 0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:00.480 was also mine. I didn't have any room. It's at 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:02.239 this point. It was the last place I lived in 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.440 New York, and it was just I loved that it 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.320 was small. And Jeff Wessel used to be like, I 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.319 would keep my underwear and drawers like under the bed, 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:12.560 like because there was just no room space for everything. 0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:18.480 But yes, and he was so pleased with himself when 0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.719 we got together and I moved into his place in Gottenburg, 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.200 New Jersey. He thought he had saved me. I'm like, dude, 0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.840 I love that place like I would go back there today. 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:28.960 It faced a brick wall. I didn't care. But like 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.480 back in the day, it's a shame when you're young 0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.080 in New York sometimes and it's wasted on the young 0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.719 because that's what I did. I just went out and 0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.360 I went to Sheep's Meadow and got fucked up, and 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:41.640 then I would would think about what club I was 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.839 going to, where I was going to go that night. 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.799 I was never I was always just like I had 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:50.239 ten million different jobs, a different you guys have summer house. 0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.279 It's like a totally different thing. But I really wasn't 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:57.080 passionate about anything except boys and like friends and whatever. 0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.480 And I missed it. I missed New York, you know 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.520 what I mean. We were talking about moving back here 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:06.239 potentially or getting like that's going. I can't even say that. 0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:06.960 One had a tear. 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:08.480 I know what, I know what the word is. 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.080 I have a lot of money for another home, yes. 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:13.440 But I always feel like it sounds like it's going 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.600 to be like a love nest. And I'm not implying 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.160 that I'm interested in that term. 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.239 Yes, yeah, I don't know who TikTok that works. In 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.840 the last two years, but it came back. It's like, 0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:24.759 what the it's the only way people talk about their 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:25.160 second home. 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.560 Now, Yes, I feel so pretentious. 0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:33.799 There's a house on pas over a million dollars. Really, yes, 0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:35.479 I didn't know that might. 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:41.640 Not be a facted up my whole idea now, Jeff Spcer, Wow, thanks, Yeah, I. 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.560 Could maybe should go see if your hovel is still 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:47.160 standing on forty second in six or forty six and second. 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.920 But I loved it. It had a doorman, I felt safe. 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.399 It was really cool. I absolutely loved that place. Both 0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:56.040 my kids now have places, and I called. I just 0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:59.360 actually stayed overnight right down the block here at a 0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.319 place called the Michael Angelo Hotels. Tonight did very well 0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.239 by me, for I want to say, it was like 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.840 three hundred bucks, which is unheard of, unheard of especially 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.560 during the holiday season. Very nice hotel. 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:11.880 So you stayed over night last night? 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:15.120 I did because I had an event last night. I 0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.640 had an event, an Israel event, and that I think 0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:21.080 I was telling you guys. Michael Rappport yes, yeah, okay, yeah, 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.040 invited me to this thing was actually it was quite amazing. 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.839 But yeah, yeah, well, I mean you should know him first. 0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.800 He was sing it and he didn't really invite me. 0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:34.719 I actually sent him a text and asked if he 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:39.560 could get me in. So that's different, right, but uh, 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:44.759 it's called One Israel the One Israel Fund. Anyway, So 0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:46.880 I said to Rachel, you know what I'm coming in. 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.000 I'm just going to spend the night. I'm fucking paying 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.719 for it. Okay. She's like, what do you mean. She's like, Mom, 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.200 I don't, like, I don't have room for that. I'm like, 0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:56.520 I know you have room because I bought you the 0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.440 Queen size bed, so I know that there's room and 0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.880 I'm paying for half your rent. And she's like, but 0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.600 I'm just saying, Mom, that's fine, But like I'm going 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:06.800 to be facetiming and like I don't sleep well and 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:08.520 I'm probably gonna get high before I go to bed, 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.760 and I just want times. I'm thinking, what is happening 0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:15.120 right now? I nobody helped me pay my rent. There 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.120 was no one who was like picking out Linnet I took, 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:19.920 I'm telling you, from each department. I could take a 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:21.960 big hefty bag and I put it in the cab 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.080 and I go to the next place that I could afford. 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:24.759 It was none of this. 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:26.960 I would have paid top dollar for. See you at 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.280 the camera okay, getting out of your little hovel. 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:30.239 Okay, your bag. 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:31.840 It was exactly what it was. 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.320 I'm not kidding. And then my son is just he 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.840 looks at me like I'm saying something so inappropriate, like 0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:38.320 what do you mean you're going to stay here? Like 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.440 that is so weird. And he's in law school, so 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.160 we're paying a lot of his for a lot of his. 0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.360 It's all wrong, and I got nowhere to go. I 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:46.960 want to come back. 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:48.799 I want to come back as a fest kid. 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.359 Yes, exactly, thank you. That's what I tell them all 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:51.600 the time. 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.640 I could afford the three hundred dollars hotel tonight. 0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:55.439 I know we're very rich, that's true. 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:57.959 Well, if I could say when I had a small 0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:02.320 soho apart, when I first knew here, I had my 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:03.960 mom stay with me. My dad would stay with me, 0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:08.439 but I wouldn't my mentality. My parents didn't have money 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.120 like that, so they either were visiting me and staying 0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.319 with me, or they weren't visiting at all. Right, right, 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.200 so I guess it. You know, I would feel terrible 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.160 if I like, mom, you can't stay at mean, like, 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:17.640 of course. 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:20.440 Your mother obviously did something right, and I have done 0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.920 a lot of things wrong, something went very It. 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:24.800 Took some time for this. I had to humble myself 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:26.319 and actually like, look, you have a. 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:29.160 Nice thing with your parents. I like seeing them on 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.680 the show with you. Thank you really nice and so 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:32.400 do you from. 0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:36.439 What I remember Jesse's parents, it's awesome show the mom's Yeah, 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:37.040 support us. 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.160 I love that I live in somewhat of a hovel 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.480 right now, you do. I'm not embarrassed to say. 0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:44.320 I think that's a there's a song in there, Jesse Solomon? 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.480 What is wait? What's the first song? What would Jesse saw? 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:47.920 Where does Jesse Solomon live? 0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:52.399 That's an apartment in Williamsburg, the roommate and it's big 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:53.200 and spacious. 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.440 But it's like old Okay, but just by definition, you 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.920 don't live in a hobble. You just said big and spacious. 0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.400 Yeah, but it's not ship. It's like a Brooklyn. 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:05.000 It looks like a Brooklyn y kind of a factory. 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:18.120 Actually makes it look sketchy. Yeah. What do you guys do? 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:19.239 Well? I know what you do. 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:20.400 Carl and I we're going to talk about I want 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:24.160 to talk about softbar. But Jesse, so you are pursuing acting, 0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:26.120 singing the arts, right? 0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:26.680 Yeah? 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:30.480 I would love to release an album this year's cool. 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.480 I'm going to Yes, I've been recording music. 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:33.320 I have this. 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.680 Yeah, it's been so fun and I think it sounds 0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:38.800 great and everybody have shown it to really likes it. 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:40.759 So I hope people like it as much as I do. 0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:42.719 And uh, what is it? 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:43.399 What kind of music? 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:50.000 It's kind of like electronic pop funk, like there's I'm 0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:52.400 trying it all, I'm seeing what I like. 0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:54.640 I love that you were studying this and you didn't 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.200 just come up with it on summer House like this 0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.080 was actually Yeah, you didn't think wow like a lot 0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:00.600 of us do. Now I could be a pop star 0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:01.959 like I did when I picked up the guitar. 0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:03.839 Yeah, So hopefully it's work out that way. 0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.920 Yeah, because I know I understand music. I work for 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.399 Amazon Live. I've got this consistent Amazon Live gig, which 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.480 has been great because it's kind of like honing in 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:14.640 my hosting chops. 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:15.960 I just like doing it. 0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:16.839 What do you sell? 0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.360 Yesterday? I did one with my mom for like a 0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.359 holiday gift exchange. I did a spa day. 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:27.680 It was like all cosmetics face stuff felt like page 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:32.480 to soorbo. Yeah, just anything that boys or girlfriends will 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:33.719 buy for their boyfriends. 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:35.960 I love that. Oh I just had a question run 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:37.040 through my head that I'm not going to say, and 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:37.880 you should thank me for it. 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:41.040 Oh, thanks, welcome and yeah, and then we do brand 0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.399 deals obviously, which you're super great. 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:45.120 Is this for I don't know if it's still like 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:46.400 this for you cross for me it is. I just 0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.839 did Jersey for two years and who knows if I'm 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:50.960 ever going to again. But it was such an adventure, 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.160 like it was like what is happening? And especially when 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:55.400 I was fifty three when they cast me on it, 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.040 and I was like, how is this to this day? 0:46:58.120 --> 0:46:59.880 Up like that, like what is happening? People come up 0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:00.960 to me and they're like, oh my god, I take 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:02.920 a picture. I'm like, fuck, yeah, you want to take 0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:06.000 a picture with me? Yeah, you could absolutely do that, right, 0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.200 And like, I don't know, after all this time, I'm 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.080 sure for because I've had I've seen some of my 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.680 cast they get so bombarded, right, and I get it. 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.839 And so I see one particular member of my cast 0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:19.920 who will go nameless or me nameless, hide once in 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:23.000 an airport behind a plant because she didn't want to deal. 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.280 With like all of the pants I understand the airport 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:26.120 and she. 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.319 Really got buried like she was she was wigging out 0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.520 a little. But I guess what I'm asking is, are 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.719 you still well, Jesse? Are you still glowing from this? Like? 0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.120 Holy shit? Well, how did this happen to me? 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:38.719 I feel bad when people come up to me and 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.080 say like, I'm so sorry, I don't want to bother you. 0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:44.239 I'm like, no, this is awesome that people want to 0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:45.880 say hi to me, and like, you know, you go 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.880 out to a bar. The point of going out is 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.200 to be social. So I would rather have people who 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.160 like me and want to talk to me come up 0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.480 to me and say hi, and you meet people, right, 0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:57.279 So no, I still like it obviously when you're like 0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:58.640 in an airport or you're destryed. 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:00.239 But I mean, the whole idea of this, theat that 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.279 you're famous now, is that just blow your Does it 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:02.799 blow your mind? 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:03.040 Still? 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:04.640 I don't consider myself famous. 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:06.800 I say that to I'm not you are, I'm not. 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.320 But whatever, there's a difference. 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:09.680 Yeah, it's it's wild. 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:13.040 The craziest thing for me is just the cancer survivors 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.480 and people going through health issues. And Carl has the 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:19.120 same thing with the sober community. But just the fact 0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.040 that I can impact somebody's life just by sharing my 0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:25.319 story and being open and the messages and what people 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.200 say to me when they meet me is like like 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.719 you help me get through this, and it's like such 0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:31.319 a heartwarming thing. 0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.960 Yeah, yeah, what about you. It's not that deep for you. 0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:38.120 You just like the attention, right, No, it is. 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:41.040 Actually I know it's for some time. I mean, I 0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.839 will say, like to your point, I mean, I'm it's 0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:45.719 amazing when people come up to you. I actually joke 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:47.759 with them. I go the moment this stops happening is 0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:50.879 when I'm like, fuck right. I've always appreciated when people 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:52.680 come up because what Jesse said, like, yeah, a fair 0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:56.279 amount of people have approached me and expressed you've helped 0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:58.320 me get through something really difficult, or you inspired me 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.280 to make a change, or a sibling who was struggling. 0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:03.120 I've had some I've had people stop me on the 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.320 street and give me hugs, and it still that blows 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:08.600 me away. And I still do shock that I've made 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.120 any impact on anyone. You know, I've shown you what 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:12.640 not to do. 0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:17.160 So yeah, but guess what, But should it be said that. 0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:21.359 What keeps me energized and excited about what we get 0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.120 to do here. Yes, you open your lives up. There's 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:26.880 a lot of things that are uncomfortable sometimes with this experience. 0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:31.600 But if you can change one person's day or life, like, 0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:34.000 that's what it's all about. Wow, And I I really 0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.120 care deeply about that now. I wish I could be 0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:37.240 more helpful. Honestly. 0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:39.279 You guys are way better people than I am. I 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.560 just like being famous get early on in this. 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:44.600 Program, Like I've been on Summer House for nine years now. Yeah, 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:47.560 I know the first it wasn't always like this. The 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.719 first season, people recognize that's a little I'm tall, and 0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:52.400 Kyle and I would were still best buddies. 0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:53.120 We go out all the time. 0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.719 But it wasn't until like the third season when it 0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:00.319 kind of like brand deals were coming. We didn't brand 0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:03.120 duals the first two seasons, right, we paid, We buy 0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:04.560 our own alcohol in Summerhouse. 0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:07.080 I heard that it's changing a little bit though, that 0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:07.719 kind of thing, like. 0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:10.440 It's evolved a lot, But the first three years were 0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:15.399 just it was like a backyard football team just liking 0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:17.160 to play football with each other. Like we didn't know 0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:18.759 we were making a show. We didn't care. We were 0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:22.040 just partying, letting loose and having fun and then we 0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:23.000 go back to our regular lives. 0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:24.760 Did you want to be famous when you were younger? 0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:26.560 Do you have? Yeah? I always wanted to be in 0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:27.959 front of a camera, me too. 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.360 Did you just I didn't really. Yeah, that's why I 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.880 chose to go into the music business. Rather than like 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.400 getting this singing degree and being like, I'm going to 0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.600 go try to make it as a singer, I was like, 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:42.560 I want control over my fate. And then I had 0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:44.880 a terrible time. I mean, I love the music business. 0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:46.920 I worked in finance for a while. I still do 0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.399 a little bit right, but it's just like it's a job. 0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:51.760 It's a way to make money. It's not like my passion. 0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:55.319 But I do like entertaining people, and I feel good 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:56.320 in front of the camera. 0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:58.879 Yeah, I feel like I was meant to be here. 0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:01.320 I just it's not something I always wanted. You know. 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:04.120 When I before I started on Jersey, I had a 0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.959 long talks with my therapist. I guess they're not talks, 0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:10.920 they were actually sessions, so I was paying for them. Yes, 0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:12.520 I'm like her and I would go to lunch. It 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:13.959 wasn't like that. It was like I gave her money 0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:17.080 and she tried to help me through my manic feelings 0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:21.839 about going on to reality TV. But and we had 0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:23.920 to like really look like like why am I doing this? 0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:27.279 Why do I want to do this? And what is 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.080 the draw? Because at the draw she would say to me, 0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:33.440 if fits money and fame doesn't really always work out 0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:35.560 well when that is what's driving you as opposed to 0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:37.600 what Like I so I want to I like making 0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:39.600 people laugh. So I'm always I'm just a mess, and 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:41.399 I've always been a hot mess. People have always laughed 0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:42.640 at me, and I like it. I don't care if 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.160 you're laughing with me or at me, just like I 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:47.320 like to make people laugh. And so that was like 0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:48.840 part of what I wanted to do. I think I 0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:50.880 did a better job of it on my first season. 0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:55.040 But also, like people sometimes say to me, you can't 0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:56.799 be this all the time, but it's like sometimes you're 0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.120 the voice of reason. I was like, I like the 0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.760 idea of going onto this show and like maybe saying 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:07.040 something I don't know that would like mediate like what 0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.520 are my what is my purpose here? But like when 0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:12.160 you think about that, you know, going on was it? 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:13.920 Did you think to yourself. I guess you thought this 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.040 will just be fun, but do you have do you 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:17.800 have ideas? Or this is going to make me famous 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:18.719 that's what I really want? 0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:20.440 Or I mean, I'll say like this. 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.440 When I first discovered this, I mean, Kyle and I 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:26.480 had been friends. It's a true story. I was at 0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:30.160 my dentist's office and he knows Kyle and Everett and 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:31.880 who were my friends. And I had heard about this 0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:33.799 house happening and I sho to be on the show. 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:35.320 And I reached out to Kyle and say, yo, what 0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:36.960 are you guys doing this summer. He's like, we're going 0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:38.680 to do this thing. We have extra spot if you 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:41.960 want to join it, get out. So yeah, Like early on, 0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:44.399 I remember talking to Kyle and his thing was, Dude, 0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:46.840 we're already doing this anyway. We're having fun on the weekend, 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.480 we're partying. But maybe there's something that could happen with this. 0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:53.440 We didn't know at all what that would be. But 0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:55.520 I appreciated Kyle kind of he pushed me because I 0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:57.279 wasn't necessarily like yeah, I goun ho. I was like, 0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:00.640 well why and he's like, it's not all about partying, 0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:04.960 And that stuck with me. Forever. It's a platform. It's 0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:06.919 a party, but it's a platform, So what else could 0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:10.040 we do with this? So I thought at that point 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:11.719 in my career I was in I worked for a 0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:14.759 medical company. I was an outside sales rep. I'd been 0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:17.320 sales rep at the year hit my quotas I was. 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:21.439 But also it was a job I wasn't. I didn't 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:24.239 want to be a career dental salesperson, so I was 0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:25.759 willing to take a chance. I didn't have a great 0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:28.440 relationship with my boss at the time, and I was like, 0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:30.560 I went to school for TV and film, I had 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.960 acted and modeled. I love a mic. I like what 0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.799 Jesse said. I enjoyed when I could make someone laugh 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.360 or be in front of a group, and it was 0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:41.200 like a thing. So I was like, what could go wrong? 0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.520 You know? And it to Kyle's point, he was like, 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.440 there's more to this than just getting drunk. Yeah, So 0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:49.520 my original thing was like, let's have fun and see 0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:50.000 what could happen. 0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:51.680 You know, just think about how many guys your age 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:53.680 would they shy a waveman or would they look like 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:55.560 when I don't know, Jesse, how are you approached for it? 0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:57.719 I had met Kyle. 0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.480 Why are you laughing? Sorry, it's just tell me. 0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:03.200 Yeah, I was choking on my lavane cookie. 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:04.279 Tell me, tell me. 0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:08.320 I had met Kyle like out in the city and 0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:10.800 then he, I think, told the producers about me and 0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:15.560 they messaged me on LinkedIn, and I knew of Summerhouse 0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:17.600 because I had been to the Hamptons a lot. 0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:20.719 So I was like, yeah, this is a popular show. 0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:21.680 Like I'll take the call. 0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:23.360 And I took the call, and I was like, listen, 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.960 I'm probably not going to do this because I'm about 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:27.080 to move back to Miami. 0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:30.040 You know, my job is great, but like, I am 0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:30.920 your guy for this. 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:32.799 I was like, I'm tall. I talked to every girl 0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:36.680 at the bar. So I just thought, you know, it 0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.200 would be good for business. Of course, like we live 0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:43.560 in this digital world where having followers and marketing and 0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:48.360 eyeballs and all that. But yeah, I figured just at 0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:51.359 least sharing my cancer story would help other people going 0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:54.640 through something similar. I thought I wasn't expecting to have 0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:58.759 a cancer scare on national television, but you know a 0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:01.680 lot of people have like that anxiety going into those 0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:05.280 appointments and kind of connected it and resonated with that story. 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.240 So yeah, I just I thought it would be generally 0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:12.000 good for like my finance career. I thought maybe I 0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:15.239 could like launch another company. I ran a company for 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:18.840 four years called mickey Wow. That was a marketplace to 0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:22.279 buy and sell commodities. So I just thought maybe I 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:23.279 could do like what. 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.279 You just said. I knew you said something. You did something. 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:29.280 We sold wood online to people and trying to punchline 0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:32.920 to this. No, no sold what super boring business. 0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:35.200 Yeah that sounds horrible. That was also in dental sales, 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:35.759 by the way. 0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:37.920 I know, there's just so much good I had so 0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:40.000 many good one for people. 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:40.560 You did. 0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:42.000 You can't handle the tooth? 0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:47.600 Oh god, wait all right, hold on. I feel very 0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:50.160 out of control. It's the whole presence of these two 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.560 young men. They're too good looking, they're too charming, and 0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:55.239 I've lost my grip on just you. 0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:56.120 We're just talking. 0:55:56.400 --> 0:56:00.520 I know I need to get done like you to 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:01.359 tell us about here. 0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:01.960 Yeah we won't. 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:03.200 We don't need to take up all the time on 0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:05.799 the software piece, but I'll you all tell. 0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:08.000 A little bit about we would like to tell my 0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:11.840 millions and millions of viewers. H Yes, you know, to 0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:13.920 be successful. You came to the right place, get on 0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:14.399 Just Jen. 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:16.200 Well, I'm you know, I launched a new business this 0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:18.239 past summer, which you'll you'll see a little bit about it, 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.439 I hope, on the new season. But yeah, I'm still 0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:24.360 working with Kyle and the lover Boy team. Very proud 0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:26.800 of what we've built there. We launched a non alcoholic 0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:30.040 lover Boy last year, and through launching that, I realized 0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:33.399 there's still a huge opportunity in like an experience where 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:36.799 you can go and drink morning, afternoon or evening really 0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:40.000 high quality non alcoholic drinks. So I've been you know, 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:41.799 putting together a team and a brand and a vision 0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:44.040 and I built and stood up like a proper company. 0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:47.040 So we have a four wall location in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. 0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.120 It'll be open in this spring in May. We're still 0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:54.239 fingers crossed, but yeah, it's all about mindful consumption. So 0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:56.600 I didn't set out to create a sober bar, even 0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:59.360 though that's what every person thinks I did. That's not 0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:01.200 what I'm doing because a lot. 0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:02.640 Now, what would be bad about doing that? 0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:04.920 Sober bar is very niche. 0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:07.160 It's just for sober people, and I want everybody to 0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.400 come to what I'm opening up because I believe not 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:12.399 everybody's comfortable saying that they're sober or not. I want 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.440 every just to feel good about the quality of the 0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:19.640 beverage and the space that's there. There are sober bars. 0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:21.880 I go to them, but they're weird. Yeah, it's not 0:57:21.960 --> 0:57:24.000 a place that is someone who maybe is thinking about 0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:25.200 sobriety whatever want to go to. 0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:26.920 It's like a meetings. 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:29.160 It feels like an AA and again, I love AA. 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:32.040 It saved my life, but I wanted to say something 0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:34.840 that was for everyone and funny enough, I'll leave you 0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:39.040 with this last data point. But like, statistically, the people 0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:42.680 that still buy non alcoholic beverages ninety four percent of 0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:46.560 sales are two people that still drink alcohol. Really, so 0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:49.240 when you're building a company for ninety four percent or 0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:53.120 six percent, six percent of the people that literally don't 0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:55.200 drink at all, or the ninety six who still drink 0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:57.600 but also buy all these products. Yeah, so that was 0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.640 important to us when we're creating this kind of vision 0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:03.640 that and that's soft bar and nutshell, but. 0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:05.680 Is also you're not talking about the so. 0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:09.200 We've yeah, we've got amazing like slogans and taglines. 0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.600 Oh, I just think it's important because I was gifted 0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:14.440 my favorite hat. Today, I gave Jen. 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:17.040 One of our really cool merchandise pieces. We do have merch, 0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:20.080 which I will say, if you're following a brand on 0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:22.640 Bravo or one of the people from our show or 0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:26.080 other shows, we all launch merch because it's a huge 0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.400 way to fund and support. Well, yes, for us, it's 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:32.320 to support our business right because merch is a way 0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:35.160 for everybody across the country to access your brand if 0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:37.280 you don't live in New York City or wherever your 0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:40.120 business is. So we've been really lucky with the merch sales. 0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:43.720 What you're wearing today, it says here, comma you are. 0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:46.120 It's all about being present and the way the comma 0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:50.040 and the period are integrated, being ten toes down, being present, 0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:54.320 being mindful here that it's also I love Star Wars 0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:57.560 and Yoda, and if you know Yoda, the way his 0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:01.240 style of speak, he like reversus words. 0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:03.360 But it's super I'm thinking of I was thinking of 0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:04.960 the Big Fat One. 0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:10.240 That's a classic, classic something Yoda would say. There is 0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:13.360 no try only do wow. 0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:16.160 But the way I wonder too that from Nike, or 0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:17.520 you think you got it from Yoda. 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:18.640 Yoda, just do it. 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:22.640 Yoda is a tremendous character on film, and his quotes 0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:24.840 and how he speaks is one of the most unique things. 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:27.800 Really, we are learning things. 0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:28.440 Hmm. 0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:29.240 Okay, Jess. 0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:30.000 Yeah. 0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:32.680 The only thing I will plug is I have a 0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:35.600 partnership with the American Cancer Society and we're about to 0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:39.360 do a merch collab and all proceeds go to the 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:40.600 American Cancer Society. 0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:42.240 Did you do one this past summer too? 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:42.920 That? 0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:43.640 Yeah? 0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:47.840 That was that didn't have like, it wasn't a true partnership. 0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:50.160 I just donated some of the money to them. Okay, 0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:55.400 but this is like their logo, my logo WWJSD. 0:59:57.080 --> 1:00:05.280 So Solomon, we do do what would look coming together 1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:09.640 for me? Now? So I'm going to ask this. I 1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:12.920 hope they don't embarrass myself. And I'm assuming right now 1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:13.800 you are cancer free. 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:16.200 Yeah, thank god, thank god. 1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:17.600 Okay, I'm so happy to hear that. 1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:20.959 Yeah. Knock on my one nut. Yeah, knock on wood. 1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:22.600 I knew a guy with one nut. 1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:23.400 I liked him. 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:24.640 You like me back? 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:25.720 I liked him just fine. 1:00:25.840 --> 1:00:27.280 No, I thought one was plenty. 1:00:28.200 --> 1:00:30.040 Problem I got too, if you count the fake one. 1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:31.800 They give you fake nuts. 1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:33.640 Yeah. I just woke up and I was like, did 1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:34.600 I get a fake get the. 1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:35.280 Hell out of here? 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:36.240 Really? Yeah? 1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:39.360 Why women love nuts that much? Or men love nuts? 1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:40.440 I guess for the men, right. 1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:44.000 It's like, for like, if you looked at my schmeckel, 1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:46.280 you wouldn't be like, oh, that guy is one nut, 1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:47.960 but if you have only one, it kind of like 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:49.760 hangs in the got it. 1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:52.880 Yeah, yeah, it gives it more of a symmetrical Yes, 1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:57.200 there's nothing wearing one shoe and not wearing one shoe. 1:00:57.400 --> 1:00:59.600 Okay, I can hear that. I don't know. I'll tell 1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:01.640 you I like the guy. I should write a song. 1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:03.840 I liked a guy with one nut and he didn't 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:04.400 like me back. 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:05.960 That's powerful. 1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:06.600 That is powerful. 1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:09.800 Well, I will say I really having Jesse's share. I 1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:13.720 didn't know obviously his story fully until after he shared that. 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:16.680 But for someone who's also shared some very personal things 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:18.960 and you know, some challenging moments in our life, I 1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:23.160 really appreciated him not only sharing that for the group 1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:24.800 and getting to know him better, but also with the 1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:27.160 impact he could have on the people that watch our show. 1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:29.080 And I see it on social and I see what 1:01:29.200 --> 1:01:31.440 he's done. And we did an event you'll see on 1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:34.440 the new season it's just powerful, Like we were with 1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:39.160 cancer survivors and people that I mean, they're fighting really hard, 1:01:39.200 --> 1:01:42.240 and he's using his platform and his story to not 1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:44.640 only help other people but inspire other people. Because it's 1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:47.480 this happens in sobriety too, when you see someone else 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:50.960 who's gotten through something or already entered the door you're 1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:52.880 about to enter, and it gives them a little bit 1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:54.760 of confidence and faith that they can get through it too. 1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:56.800 And I know he's done that for people. Yeah, and listen, 1:01:56.920 --> 1:01:59.560 my story is a happy one. It has a happy ending, 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:03.160 and not everybody is so lucky. So we just try 1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:05.280 to do what we can to kind of inspire hope. 1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:09.360 And I have one of my best friends past of 1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:12.480 ovarian cancer going back quite a few years ago, thank you. 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:16.040 And but I have a friend who will be fine, 1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:19.680 thank God, is fighting cancer. Net cancer sucks and it 1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:23.720 just changes everything. And I'm proud of you, proud of 1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:24.080 you happy. 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:27.640 I mean, he's literally saying, he's say doing that and 1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:30.960 it's massive. So yes, love you, brother, I love you, brother, 1:02:30.960 --> 1:02:40.840 I appreciate it. I have a couple of questions for you, Jim. 1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:45.440 Oh good, I love that really Yeah, Oh my goodness, what. 1:02:45.520 --> 1:02:48.640 Do you look? Yeah? Go for it? Who is what 1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:56.560 is your Who is your favorite person on Bravo besides 1:02:56.600 --> 1:02:58.439 Andy Khen? Do you watch other Bravo shows? 1:02:58.480 --> 1:02:59.600 I watch every No, that's not true. 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:01.760 I don't watch every besides Summerhouse? 1:03:01.800 --> 1:03:02.320 What other like? 1:03:02.400 --> 1:03:03.080 What's your favorite? 1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:05.960 Not including Summerhouse? Not including Okay, because you know we 1:03:06.080 --> 1:03:07.760 were gonna yeah, knew you to say it wasn't going 1:03:07.840 --> 1:03:09.280 to be you. But I love you to death, Jesse. 1:03:09.440 --> 1:03:11.520 But I have a special place in my heart for this. 1:03:12.080 --> 1:03:14.240 He was just so sad looking at the Belta Lounge. 1:03:14.920 --> 1:03:18.880 Hey, I'm a diamond medallion. Now are you watching? 1:03:19.960 --> 1:03:21.360 Which is weird because I have a house. We have 1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:24.520 a house in Charleston, So I don't know why I 1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:25.480 don't watch Southern. 1:03:25.320 --> 1:03:27.040 Charm, But I do you watch like Salt Lake? 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:28.600 I am obsessed. 1:03:28.800 --> 1:03:29.479 It's pretty fire. 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:32.240 You guys both watch it? Do you watch House at all? 1:03:33.280 --> 1:03:34.920 Only Salt Lake? For whatever reason? 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:37.800 Remind me not not to self. Don't buy Jesse. 1:03:37.720 --> 1:03:42.360 Back on that. I've seen some Jersey check out. It's okay, 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:43.160 I gotta go to peak. 1:03:43.280 --> 1:03:45.919 I didn't see the song, No, I got to watch. Yeah, 1:03:46.040 --> 1:03:50.560 I didn't know a song yeah, okay, anyway, sorry, so 1:03:50.640 --> 1:03:51.640 my favorite person. 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:53.960 Like character, it doesn't necessarily you have to be something 1:03:54.000 --> 1:03:55.920 friends with him. Just wondering who entertains you the most, 1:03:55.960 --> 1:03:56.720 son Bravo. 1:03:57.720 --> 1:03:59.640 Oh my god. I mean there's just like it's so, 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:02.320 you know, who I really love. I don't know if 1:04:02.360 --> 1:04:04.200 she's entertains me, but who I want to come back 1:04:04.320 --> 1:04:07.440 as Lisa vander Pump. I would. I used to just 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:10.200 watch her and think, First of all, she looked do 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:12.760 you guys know who Jacqueline Smith is? There's this look 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:15.640 about Lisa right well, but there's this look about Lisa 1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:17.800 vander Pump with her with the hair and the I 1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:20.440 think she is so funny and so beautiful and so 1:04:22.120 --> 1:04:25.600 she had a royal thing. Absolutely, it is very funny 1:04:25.640 --> 1:04:30.320 and cool and cool and self deprecating and like just 1:04:30.640 --> 1:04:36.120 I just I want to say I aspire to a 1:04:36.240 --> 1:04:39.320 Lisa Vanderpump. So, now if you're asking me who do 1:04:39.440 --> 1:04:44.240 I like love, that's like currently on. I mean, I 1:04:44.320 --> 1:04:47.040 love all those Salt Lake girls. They are amazing, They're funny, 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:48.960 they are so okay, all right, let's you know what 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:51.360 the truth is. And I didn't love this person until 1:04:51.480 --> 1:04:53.560 my producer from Jersey told me how much he loved 1:04:53.600 --> 1:04:56.840 this person and he convinced me. So, I don't know. 1:04:56.840 --> 1:04:58.400 It was weird. It's like, don't you get it? Don't 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:02.360 like I wasn't really getting her. Lisa Barlowe effing love her. 1:05:02.960 --> 1:05:04.400 I think she is so do you know who she is? 1:05:04.560 --> 1:05:06.840 I met her at the fan fest shoes funny. 1:05:06.960 --> 1:05:10.240 She is so because she I like people that make 1:05:10.320 --> 1:05:13.680 no apologies and it's like so cliche, be authentic, but 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:16.280 it's true, Like Lisa is she doesn't get like this 1:05:16.440 --> 1:05:19.240 is who she is and she is a snob and 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:22.600 she is a brat and she owns it and she 1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:25.640 doesn't like she's not mean, but she can't help it. 1:05:25.760 --> 1:05:27.160 Like I'm sorry, I broke up, beautiful, what do you 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:28.720 want from me? Like that's just who I am? 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:33.680 And commercial with them, and I had met Lisa a 1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:35.240 little bit, but not you know, I didn't have any 1:05:35.360 --> 1:05:37.480 kind of great experience, not bad or anything. But they 1:05:37.520 --> 1:05:39.880 were telling me how amazing Lisa was. Yeah, and had 1:05:40.000 --> 1:05:43.400 so much fun doing the Wendy's commercial. Really, and I 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:46.640 saw it and it's a funny commercial. It's like Lisa's 1:05:46.680 --> 1:05:49.560 the therapist and Kyle Emander in like a counseling office 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:51.680 for a it's a Wendy's. 1:05:51.520 --> 1:05:52.120 Ad they did. 1:05:52.320 --> 1:05:55.000 I mean Lisa was great. Kyle Amanda were great too, 1:05:55.600 --> 1:05:58.480 so they raved about her after that. 1:05:58.840 --> 1:06:02.120 My producer, so his name, well he's not producing my 1:06:02.160 --> 1:06:04.400 show anymore because there's no show, but his name is 1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:06.400 Chris de Rosa, and he's just you guys know how 1:06:06.400 --> 1:06:09.200 you get with the producer sometimes where you just I 1:06:09.280 --> 1:06:11.680 fell so madly in love with Chris de Rosa. He 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:15.240 was like my person. And he was like, you know, 1:06:15.760 --> 1:06:18.080 a young guy, thirty something, and I'm calling him like 1:06:18.160 --> 1:06:20.600 a little bitch, like every all day, every day, like 1:06:20.720 --> 1:06:21.960 whining about stuff, and. 1:06:22.480 --> 1:06:25.560 Well I do. I was a little bit. 1:06:25.840 --> 1:06:28.200 See fifty six year o women they're just like you. 1:06:28.920 --> 1:06:31.240 So but he's fifty. 1:06:33.840 --> 1:06:35.280 I think I like Jesse better than calling. 1:06:36.240 --> 1:06:37.600 I haven't brought up age at all. I just say 1:06:37.800 --> 1:06:40.120 thank you, thank you, thank you. That's impossible. 1:06:40.280 --> 1:06:43.160 So okay, So but like I love him. What was 1:06:43.200 --> 1:06:45.600 my part? Oh? But he was so nervous. He told 1:06:45.640 --> 1:06:47.160 me the first time he met Lisa Barlow, this is 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:50.200 a guy who produced all of Old New York. This 1:06:50.280 --> 1:06:52.440 is a producer that has done his like he's been 1:06:52.480 --> 1:06:55.720 there he knows everybody. He said he started shaking when 1:06:55.760 --> 1:06:58.680 he met Lisa Barlow. He became so overwhelmed. And think 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:00.960 about it, we're like and study. We didn't go to 1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:03.120 act I went to acting school, but like we didn't. 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:05.240 This is not one of the actors. People don't get that. 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:07.600 You don't get so I did go. I wasn't a 1:07:07.640 --> 1:07:10.960 good actress. But but I'm saying, like people get like shaken, 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:14.000 you know. And so when he told me that, that's 1:07:14.040 --> 1:07:16.000 when I sort of like looked at her differently, And 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:17.840 now I'm just obsessed. I love her? Who is yours? 1:07:17.880 --> 1:07:18.800 Who is your favorites? 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:25.640 I've really enjoyed a couple of different people. One I also, 1:07:25.760 --> 1:07:28.200 I actually really like I'm not gonna I think Madison 1:07:28.280 --> 1:07:30.480 on Southern Charm has been very enjoyable. 1:07:30.640 --> 1:07:31.800 Does she know that you feel this way? 1:07:32.120 --> 1:07:34.800 I mean we're friendly, Oh, we've. 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:35.560 Friendly, friends, are friendly? 1:07:35.880 --> 1:07:36.400 She's married. 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:39.000 Oh okay, sorry sorry Madisine. 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:39.400 No, that is cool. 1:07:39.440 --> 1:07:41.560 Like I think she's funny on Southern Charms. 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:41.840 Got it? 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:45.720 She she has a she can deliver some some real 1:07:46.040 --> 1:07:50.440 good stuff. And then trying to think who else that's 1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:54.200 I mean Kyle Cook on Summerhouse always so I had. 1:07:54.600 --> 1:07:56.600 He's a perfect example of somebody that I watching the 1:07:56.640 --> 1:07:59.680 show and I can't. I didn't watch it consistently, but 1:07:59.720 --> 1:08:02.200 I've enough to know who Kyle is and then meeting him. 1:08:02.400 --> 1:08:05.920 I met him at Jen Guyser. There was dinner honoring 1:08:06.040 --> 1:08:08.800 Jen Guyser. Kyle was there and that was such a 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:12.120 different experience, like meeting him as opposed to being a viewer. 1:08:12.720 --> 1:08:15.440 I like that kid. He's he's so he was so sweet. 1:08:16.280 --> 1:08:18.519 Kyle's great and you might get some he has like 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:20.519 a lot of he's a lot of fun. I mean, 1:08:20.560 --> 1:08:22.320 I would argue he's the most fun person I've ever 1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:23.040 partied with. 1:08:23.160 --> 1:08:26.360 And he brings a lot to what we do. He 1:08:26.760 --> 1:08:28.680 likes to talk about business, so he has that other 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:30.720 great side conversationalist. 1:08:30.880 --> 1:08:31.800 Yeah really great. 1:08:31.880 --> 1:08:34.400 Yeah, well you don't see you don't watch Housewives name 1:08:34.600 --> 1:08:35.920 do you watch any other Brava. 1:08:36.280 --> 1:08:40.360 I watched last season of Southern Charm. I watched last 1:08:40.360 --> 1:08:47.800 season of Southern Hospitality. Okay, I mean we're friendly with Craig, but. 1:08:47.880 --> 1:08:49.720 I like people any girls on any of the other 1:08:49.760 --> 1:08:50.280 shows that you. 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:53.719 I'm close with Shena. I love Sena and I love Brock. 1:08:53.760 --> 1:08:57.479 I've always been oh yeah, Tom Schwartz. Yeah, people seem 1:08:57.560 --> 1:08:59.720 to hate him. I love How do you hate that? 1:08:59.800 --> 1:09:06.200 Guys like the nicest, kindest people I haven't watched texted me. 1:09:06.240 --> 1:09:07.960 He's like, hey, but I just bought some softbar merch. 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:09.320 I just want to let you know. It's like thanks, 1:09:09.439 --> 1:09:11.600 I would have sent you to like he bought it, Like. 1:09:12.040 --> 1:09:13.519 I have to tell you, like I never get when 1:09:13.520 --> 1:09:15.880 people like do that, they start to hit. But that guy, 1:09:16.320 --> 1:09:18.280 he's like a Wes Wilson, Like you feel like you 1:09:18.280 --> 1:09:20.240 just want to pet him. He's the cutest little things. 1:09:20.360 --> 1:09:22.120 Great. I like Tom a lot. I think there must 1:09:22.160 --> 1:09:24.160 be a reason he did. He must have done something bad. 1:09:25.479 --> 1:09:27.720 I mean, sometimes it's the company you keep around you 1:09:27.880 --> 1:09:30.679 that can be a reflection of you sometimes. 1:09:31.240 --> 1:09:33.640 Yeah, but any girls on any of the shows that 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:37.880 you want to meet, there's one. 1:09:37.960 --> 1:09:40.519 There's a girl in the valley that's dropped dead gorgeous. 1:09:40.520 --> 1:09:42.960 I think, really, I think I'm married. 1:09:43.320 --> 1:09:45.439 She is married, but she's just gorgeous. She was she 1:09:45.560 --> 1:09:46.120 was a pageant. 1:09:46.280 --> 1:09:46.479 Miss. 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:49.120 I ask if you want to meet them? So now 1:09:49.160 --> 1:09:50.439 you want me to You want to meet a woman 1:09:50.439 --> 1:09:55.240 who's married? No, I thought you said who yet, Yes, 1:09:55.400 --> 1:09:56.320 you want to meet them. 1:09:57.000 --> 1:09:59.040 I'm actually trying to branch outside of the Bravos here 1:09:59.080 --> 1:09:59.559 a little bit more. 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:02.760 That's my boy, so you know, that's my boy and 1:10:03.040 --> 1:10:03.519 I dated a. 1:10:03.520 --> 1:10:05.479 Little bit in the network, So it's good to Yes, 1:10:05.920 --> 1:10:08.120 Jesse is learning what it's like dating within the show. 1:10:08.360 --> 1:10:10.360 Yeah, Jesse, do you go to Bravo Con last year? 1:10:10.560 --> 1:10:10.600 No? 1:10:11.200 --> 1:10:13.280 Oh, they are going to eat you up alive. 1:10:13.560 --> 1:10:15.760 That's what people said about FanFest and nobody ate me. 1:10:15.920 --> 1:10:19.760 FanFest is not the same thing. What hold on? Okay, wait, 1:10:19.840 --> 1:10:21.599 let me just readjust okay, we're not going to play. 1:10:21.760 --> 1:10:21.920 Yeah. 1:10:21.920 --> 1:10:24.160 I wasn't even there, so I heard about it looked fun. 1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:26.599 But oh yeah it was a lot of Miami cast. 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:29.560 Like housewives actually want to like hook up with the 1:10:29.600 --> 1:10:30.439 summerhouse boy. 1:10:31.120 --> 1:10:33.600 There's more than just housewives, first of all, No, I 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:36.439 mean do I think that maybe, yes. 1:10:36.680 --> 1:10:40.080 Yes, there are some I've had over my years on 1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:43.560 being in this network. I've had there are housewives that 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:46.479 are no longer on the Housewives shows, but I've been 1:10:46.520 --> 1:10:49.120 out late at night with or listen. 1:10:49.200 --> 1:10:52.320 I mean I think that there are when housewives are single. 1:10:52.400 --> 1:10:54.439 You didn't used to be right, these have to be married. Well, 1:10:54.640 --> 1:10:56.880 Bethany I guess wasn't. But like, if you're going to 1:10:56.960 --> 1:10:59.599 Brava Khan and there are these gorgeous young men there, 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:01.680 the answer is yes, they want to hook up with 1:11:01.800 --> 1:11:04.600 summerhouse boys. I don't they want to marry them or 1:11:05.200 --> 1:11:06.280 you know, have babies with them. 1:11:06.400 --> 1:11:09.320 But yeah, I'm kind of like, I don't know. It's 1:11:09.479 --> 1:11:10.920 if you're in the same world a little bit. It 1:11:10.920 --> 1:11:13.000 almost kind of gives like a co sign, Yeah, like 1:11:13.080 --> 1:11:15.040 you're okay, it can't be that bad. Yeah, he's in 1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:18.840 the Bravo world too, but be careful because they're the crossover. 1:11:19.640 --> 1:11:22.400 I'll give you an example back in you know, twenty sixteen, 1:11:22.400 --> 1:11:24.559 when first film the first season a Summerhouse. That's when 1:11:24.560 --> 1:11:27.679 we met the Vanner Pump. Sheena and I were friendly, 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:30.120 and then I hung out with her again in twenty seventeen. 1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:33.200 But like that got like publicly picked up that we 1:11:33.280 --> 1:11:34.200 had hung out. 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:35.800 And did you I mean, I don't know. Now it's 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:37.920 like you is hanging out having sex. 1:11:38.120 --> 1:11:40.439 Well, I we didn't actually have sex, but I said 1:11:40.479 --> 1:11:42.760 we hook up, but everybody assumed that was sex and 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:44.360 then it was a whole thing. 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:45.679 But she and I were cool. 1:11:46.479 --> 1:11:48.759 But what I'm getting at is that was publicized outside 1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:51.080 of Van or Pump's show and Summerhouse's show. It was 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:53.360 just public that shit, of course, so you have like 1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:56.559 it just created more stuff. I mean it wasn't on purpose. 1:11:56.720 --> 1:11:58.599 I never We had a late night at a bar 1:11:58.680 --> 1:12:00.280 in New York and then went home together in it. 1:12:01.080 --> 1:12:02.640 From there, people are like asking, what's going on with 1:12:02.680 --> 1:12:04.960 Karl and Chena? But I was back in like twenty seventeen, 1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:06.240 twenty eighteen, and. 1:12:06.280 --> 1:12:07.080 What is going on with Carl? 1:12:07.120 --> 1:12:09.000 And we're still friends? But she got married and all that. 1:12:09.120 --> 1:12:10.120 But it's just funny. 1:12:10.200 --> 1:12:12.360 How is there anyone any of the show. 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:16.680 Across across show hookups can blow up outside of that too. 1:12:16.800 --> 1:12:18.960 Listen, I think that's part of the fun, right You 1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:19.640 kind of want that. 1:12:20.040 --> 1:12:21.479 Little I think some people do. But I have to 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:25.320 learn dating inside this world can be very polarizing and 1:12:25.400 --> 1:12:29.040 challenging something. Yeah, I totally underestimated how hard it would be. 1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:30.880 Really, Yeah, I share. 1:12:31.280 --> 1:12:33.000 I have a lot of respect for the husbands and wives, 1:12:33.040 --> 1:12:35.599 the Kyle's, the amandas who put it all out there. 1:12:35.640 --> 1:12:37.800 But also it stays strong. I mean it's not easy. 1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:43.120 No, it's not any regrets about this past season specifically, m. 1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:48.520 You know, I do I do something that I apologize 1:12:48.760 --> 1:12:50.519 for profusely, but. 1:12:52.600 --> 1:12:55.479 Yeah, it wasn't anything that was, in my opinion, so 1:12:55.880 --> 1:12:56.880 unforgivable that. 1:12:57.240 --> 1:13:00.280 Well was it another people's minds very unforgive. 1:13:01.439 --> 1:13:05.280 No, it'll be okay, Yeah, it'll be fodder for It'll 1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:07.639 be fodder for a bit, but okay. The short term 1:13:07.680 --> 1:13:09.880 memory of a lot of this has actually been pretty 1:13:09.880 --> 1:13:11.840 surprising to me, just because I, you know, I put 1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:14.240 a lot out there and people remember me for certain 1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:16.360 things and then literally forget, like things that I thought 1:13:16.360 --> 1:13:18.519 are very obvious about me. 1:13:19.000 --> 1:13:19.800 It just is what it is. 1:13:19.920 --> 1:13:22.680 I want to imagine. I also like going back and 1:13:22.800 --> 1:13:26.200 now with you and the woman who will whose name 1:13:26.240 --> 1:13:30.200 Remi rhymes with Schnindsey. So that person, like, what is 1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:33.800 it like to had to know and have in your 1:13:33.800 --> 1:13:35.240 head that you're gonna have to go and be back 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:37.479 in that space? And I've done that for Wes and 1:13:37.560 --> 1:13:40.080 he was with that beautiful woman for a very lunch 1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:41.200 you know, Blitz. 1:13:41.280 --> 1:13:44.240 Well, one thing the difference is this, I was friends 1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:46.720 with Lindsay for many years before we got together, so 1:13:46.840 --> 1:13:50.200 we had a foundation of friendship. Oh right, remembering from 1:13:50.280 --> 1:13:53.080 twenty sixteen, I met Lindsay and very close as friends 1:13:53.120 --> 1:13:56.280 and continue to be very close friends. Then obviously we 1:13:56.600 --> 1:14:00.519 started dating, so I had a lot of time and 1:14:00.640 --> 1:14:03.400 I still care about her and wish the best for her. 1:14:04.640 --> 1:14:06.560 So I a weird cares about you and whisch is 1:14:06.600 --> 1:14:06.960 the best for you? 1:14:07.160 --> 1:14:09.840 No, No, that's that's why. That's why I pray for 1:14:09.880 --> 1:14:12.280 her though you know I want, I hope. That's how 1:14:12.320 --> 1:14:14.840 I release everything for me is by offering grace and 1:14:14.880 --> 1:14:16.679 praying for her because I really do want the best 1:14:16.720 --> 1:14:19.240 for her, and that's how I can go live my 1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:21.519 life now. Just give her a little bit of you know, 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:23.479 wish you the best, and then go focus on what 1:14:23.520 --> 1:14:25.160 I got to get. Didn't she say in the trail, 1:14:25.360 --> 1:14:28.280 She's like, I don't want well, anybody who says that. 1:14:28.600 --> 1:14:31.200 Is the person you pray for, you're a better man 1:14:31.240 --> 1:14:31.640 than I am. 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:35.920 It's I have a sponsor, I work, I worked steps. 1:14:36.000 --> 1:14:40.320 I talk about emotions and resentments and things that ultimately 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:42.760 confess her and build up in your body, and it's 1:14:42.800 --> 1:14:44.639 important for me to address it. I'm not saying I'm 1:14:44.680 --> 1:14:46.800 not perfect at all, but when it comes to like 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:47.760 a breakup. 1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:50.840 And normal and then in the world as we know it. 1:14:50.880 --> 1:14:53.000 You don't go back and live in the summerhouse with 1:14:53.120 --> 1:14:55.840 the with the ex fiance. I mean, there's nothing easy 1:14:56.200 --> 1:14:57.080 makes for great TV. 1:14:57.360 --> 1:14:59.560 Well, I was again, I had a lot of good friendships. 1:15:00.240 --> 1:15:02.599 My best friends are all in this house. Yes, it's 1:15:02.680 --> 1:15:04.519 very it was unique, but I think after the first 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:08.120 you'll see, after the first kind of it, we kind 1:15:08.120 --> 1:15:09.800 of like Captain Nevin and. 1:15:09.880 --> 1:15:11.680 I mean, I don't know how it happened. I don't 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:14.479 know what happened with West and Sierra and now Jesse. 1:15:14.640 --> 1:15:16.960 I have a feeling that I know who is going 1:15:17.040 --> 1:15:19.519 to be your love interest just from that little trailer. 1:15:19.800 --> 1:15:22.400 But like, are you now okay? You know what, I'm 1:15:22.439 --> 1:15:24.120 not gonna even do it because you probably can't talk 1:15:24.120 --> 1:15:27.320 about it and I'm not that kind of podcast host. Yeah, yeah, 1:15:27.439 --> 1:15:28.880 so we're gonna left anyway, what's her name? 1:15:31.280 --> 1:15:33.240 You'll see me date Lexi on the show, and she 1:15:33.439 --> 1:15:34.200 is a great girl. 1:15:36.360 --> 1:15:39.040 I'll let you know about that. Because now I have 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:41.120 to be team Jesse. I got to get some girls 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:41.639 in here, you guys. 1:15:41.640 --> 1:15:44.720 We got a books girls, the other the other half 1:15:44.760 --> 1:15:45.960 of the crew and the other girls. 1:15:46.040 --> 1:15:47.679 I would love that. I would love to get Kyle 1:15:47.760 --> 1:15:51.960 on also love you both. Thank you again. Happy happy 1:15:53.080 --> 1:15:55.719 Merry Christmas, Wanda, whatever it is that you celebrate, Happy 1:15:55.760 --> 1:15:57.960 New Years. Bye guys, thanks for listening.