1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Live the dream once again here on a fully loaded 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: sports Sunday. This is Fox Football Sunday, and we're broadcasting 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: live from the tai Iraq dot Com studios ty iraq 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: dot com. We're gonna help get you there and on 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: max selection, fast reshipping free Rose has our protection over 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: ten thousand recommended installers ti iraq dot com the way 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: tire buying should be. All right, this is not a 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: normal show for us. Hey, there's no red zone radio 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: right now. We don't have any football today, but we 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: certainly have a huge football game a week from today. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: By the way, quick programming note, we are gonna have 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: bonus time on Super Bowl Sunday, Richard doing our five 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: hour gig as we do every year instead of our 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: normal four hours. 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: It's fun, man. We are the last voices you'll hear 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: leading up to pregame of the Super Bowl, and Super 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty nine is upon us. I think we can 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: now start speaking about the game in earnest as these 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: teams are making their way over to the Super Bowl site, 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: whether it be in preparation or actually on site right 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: now in New Orleans. But yeah, it's It's gonna be 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: an interesting week because here we are over the weekend 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: discussing this. But we know much of the Monday morning 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: banter and Tuesday morning banter Tuesday banter is going to 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: be about what just happened in the NBA. Well, no doubt. 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: In fact, it will be a subject matter in New Orleans. 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I promise you Radio Row, you know, media Row. 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: As they now call it. 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: These days, everyone's gonna be buzzying about the same thing. 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: The first trade ever in NBA history where two players 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: who were on the previous year's All NBA team were 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: traded for each other. 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: This has never happened in the history of the NBA. 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: Now, my younger son, Garrett, who is twenty six now, 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: he has lived in breathe the Laker basketball since birth. 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: The NBA is his deal. I've met your son several times. 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, it's only maybe twice I've seen 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: him not wearing Lakers gear. Yeah. 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: So it's Saturday night at the house, right, Yeah, and 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: I'm I'm just sitting there typing stats away doing my 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: usual late night thing. Right, all of a sudden, I 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: hear this primal scream. So he comes running in he 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: goes Sean's is putting out that there I go, it 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: was his account hacked. I mean, I mean, come on, 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: this doesn't make any sense, because there's no way the 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: Lakers have enough to trade for Luka Doncic. For a 48 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: twenty five year old Lukadancis. They'd have to give a 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: what ten number ones? They only can give up three 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: or four. They just don't have enough trade capital to 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: make a deal to get a twenty five year old 52 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Luka Doncic. 53 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: And then he breaks down the trade, I'm like, okay, 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: well that's fake. 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, there's no way they could 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: give up that to get Luka Doncic. And in fact, 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: it's real. You know, there's so many layers to this 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: rich and we're gonna we're gonna hit a lot of layers, 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: but just just the actual mechanics of this trade. If 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: I'm the NBA, I'm investigating what is going on with 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks because for them to essentially give away 62 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: Luka Doncic at age twenty five for what they got 63 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: in return tells me it's an organization that's not willing 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: to spend money. He was going to get the super 65 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: Max deal five years, three hundred and forty five million 66 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: quick math. That's close to seventy million a year. 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: They didn't want to pay him. 68 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: And so if I'm the league, this is a league, 69 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 2: by the way, in the past that has acts trades 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: over the years many times. And so how is deal 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: actually was allowed or is being allowed under the terms 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: of this deal to me, needs a huge explanation. 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: I'm curious what we don't know and what investigative reporting 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: will be done from here until we have a better 75 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: understanding of how this all went down. But here's what 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: we do know. We do know that it seems like 77 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks got absolutely jobbed in the trade. The 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Jazz were thrown in as an ancillary part of this 79 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: three team trade where they receive Jaalen Hood Schafano and 80 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: the LA Clippers twenty twenty five second round pick and 81 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: the Mavericks twenty twenty five second round selection. That's like 82 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: a side piece too. Obviously, the fact that. 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: Three nothings three nothings, that Ad and Luka Doncic have 84 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: flip flop, And to your point, is this because the 85 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: Lakers and Lebron really wanted to divorce themselves from ad 86 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: where they all of a sudden extremely motivated and interested 87 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: because there was a team out there who was interested 88 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: in sending a superstar for a superstar. 89 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: Was it vice versa? Was there bad blood growing in Dallas? 90 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: Have Luka Doncic outstayed his welcome? Has you know the 91 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: reports that he's habitually overweight and under conditioned to start 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: basketball seasons in missing time as one of the brightest 93 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: stars in the sport. Has it finally graded the nerves 94 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: raw over there in Dallas. I'm really curious what we 95 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: don't know. What we do know is fascinating, But what's 96 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: more fascinating is how how did this happen? All Right? 97 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: So Rich, here's here's the bottom line. 98 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: I have been following Lakers basketball since the day they 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: made the trade to get wil Chamberlain from the Philadelphia 100 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: seventy six ers. And when they made that trade, by 101 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: the way, he was the three time raining MVP of 102 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, still in the prime of 103 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: his career, and they basically got him for a song 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: and dance. So let's make this infinitely clear about the 105 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: single most important franchise in the NBA, and that is 106 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers. When you think about it. They 107 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: stole Wilt Chamberlain from the seventy six ers. They stole 108 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: Kareem abdul Jabbar for nothing from the Milwaukee Bucks in 109 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: the prime of his career. They stole Shaquille O'Neal on 110 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: a technicality free agent window of about an hour and 111 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: a half, stole him from the Orlando Magic. They get 112 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: Pau Gasol essentially for his brother that was a steal, 113 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: and Anthony Davis. 114 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: These are all deals they made. 115 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: But if you look at the core of the Lakers, 116 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: it's been Jerry West homegrown, Magic Johnson homegrown, Kobe Bryant homegrown. 117 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: And then they needed to. 118 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: Make a deal to get a catalyst, which they did 119 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: in Lebron James. And now they're being awarded Lukadancic for 120 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: the future of this franchise. And believe me, the Lakers 121 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: will now have the draft capital and player personnel necessary 122 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: to eventually get the big that they desperately obviously need 123 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: because right now they don't have any rimperant protector but 124 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: the legal make sure. 125 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: Don't worry, the Lakers will be good down the road. 126 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: So this is when we talk about you know, an 127 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: investigation of how the Mavericks can make this deal to 128 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: give up a twenty five year old superstar the level 129 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: Luka doncis for nothing. You know, I'm not saying Anthony 130 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: Davis is nothing, but he's thirty one years old, has 131 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: had injury problems, and that's not comfortable to a twenty 132 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: five year old like Luka Doncic. There needs to be 133 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: investigation of this league because if I'm owners, it's not 134 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: about Mavericks fans being upset. If I'm an owner, I'm like, 135 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: how is this deal being made? And how is it that, 136 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: you know, the Mavericks just out of the blue give 137 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: the Lakers a call and make a deal just like that. 138 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: How is this even allowed by this league? 139 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: So what's so fascinating about fans is oftentimes when and 140 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about fans of sport, not just fans of 141 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: basketball or football, but fans in general, is you become 142 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: incensed when you see a team have success. Right, you know, 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: the rallying cry leading up to Super Bowl fifty nine 144 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: is the Chiefs are cheaters and it's because the refs 145 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: are helping them out. Well, here's the thing. Even if 146 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: Josh Allen did break the plane and earn that first 147 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: down on the fourth down conversion try. They still had 148 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: to make the plays to beat the Chiefs, even while 149 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: the Chiefs stuffed them there and got whatever you call 150 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: it a turnover on downs, I mean, they still had 151 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: to go down and score. And by the way, the 152 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Bills answered back like so, even when it's something like 153 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: gameplay related, fans are incensed over these things because the 154 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Chiefs earn their way to the super Bowl. You can't 155 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: convince me otherwise. But still there are people out there 156 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: saying that there's a conspiracy to help the Chiefs. This 157 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: feels even more so down that rabbit hole than anything 158 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: you could blame on the refs or the NFL helping 159 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: bolster the Chiefs, because to your point, this is one 160 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: of the most uneven trades we've ever seen in the 161 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: history of the NBA. But this, man Rich, we've seen 162 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: zero over the years. 163 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: I just gave you, I know, an example after another 164 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: of the Lakers stealing superstars for way below market value. 165 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: I don't know how it's possible that this has occurred. 166 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: And also, if you want to talk about something stinky 167 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: in Denmark, if you want to talk about the fishiest 168 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: part of this. Luka Doncic hasn't played since December, like, 169 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's strained his calf again, granted, but still 170 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: like they've been keeping him on the shelf since the 171 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: end of last year. It is almost it is February. Sorry, 172 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: it's February. Second. I mean the fact that they've kept 173 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: this player on ice while they've been shopping a trade 174 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: for him, and then got the fuzzy end of the 175 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: lollipop on the deal with the Lakers. I mean this 176 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: all to me, it's a bizarre set of circumstances. I 177 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: don't know how Dallas looks or anybody involved in this trade, 178 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: Nico Harrison, their GM, their ownership or whoever, unless they're 179 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: planning on absolutely tanking right and then moving the Dallas 180 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: Mavericks to a different city. Maybe, I don't know. I mean, 181 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: that's the only way you would be okay with getting 182 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: jobbed this bad into trade though, if it was intentional, 183 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: if you are trying to tear this building to the 184 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: studs or this roster to the studs and then uproot 185 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: the franchise, because how else does it make sense to 186 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: agree to something like this? 187 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: All right, so they're spin on it as you mentioned 188 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: the idea that Luca has missed a lot of games. 189 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: If you look at he plays sixty six games a year, 190 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: like every year, it's like sixty. 191 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: I bet all of a sudden he's gonna be real 192 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: healthy when he gets to LA. 193 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: Well, he's gonna have to eat better. 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 2: Okay, but that outside they were just talking about that 195 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: defense wins championships. Again, this is a Mavericks team that 196 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: was in the NBA Finals a year ago. 197 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: I will say this, in the short. 198 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: Term, pairing Kyrie Irving with Anthony Davis is great. 199 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: In the short term. 200 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: I mean, Kyrie's going to be thirty three years old 201 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: here shortly, and ad obviously at thirty one years of age, 202 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: what do you feel like an old thirty one. 203 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: Because his body's been breaking down. 204 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: But that combination of a dynamic point guard with a 205 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: really great big makes a lot of sense short term. 206 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: As far as the Lakers are concerned, what's going to 207 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: be interesting because they've been saying that, First of all, 208 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: does anyone honestly believe that this deal went down without 209 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: any knowledge of Lebron James? They said, you know, after 210 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: they said the garden, after the garden, No, no, no, let's 211 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: get to that. 212 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: On the other side, the tweet that came out giving 213 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: Lebron James an alibi that this was a complete shock 214 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: to him is just as shocking. That's the story. It's 215 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: a fake fake. Let me find the tweet while we 216 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: take a break. I know it's unbelievable because we will 217 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: on the other side. 218 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, the idea that somehow the Lakers made this 219 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: deal and Lebron had no nose. 220 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: He was out to dinner after. 221 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: They're winning the garden, right, He's just handing out with friends. 222 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: And what what? What just happened to here? 223 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: Come on, all right, we'll continue on. This is Fox 224 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: Football Sunday. 225 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 226 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 4: the nation. 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But look, even in New Orleans as 240 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: we are leading up to the big Super Bowl game, 241 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: everyone's buzzing about a historic trade. There's never actually been 242 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: a trade like this in the history of the NBA. 243 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: Again, where two players who are on the All. 244 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: NBA team the year before are traded in a mid 245 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: season trade the following season has never happened in the 246 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: history of the NBA. 247 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: So we were talking about the. 248 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: Notification that came out right after the trade that after 249 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: the Lakers got a nice win, by the way, without 250 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis in the garden, that Lebron was out to 251 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 2: dinner New York with his family when all of a sudden, 252 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: sham's reported about this trade came down and he completely blindsided. 253 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: What I'm gonna have to figure this out? Digested You 254 00:13:58,960 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: actually have the tweet. 255 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Dave McManamon, who covers the league for ESPN, 256 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: had this tweet and he's been covering Lebron for almost 257 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: the entirety of his career. But he writes Lebron James 258 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: learn of the Davis Doncitz trade after the next game 259 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: when it broke while he was out to dinner with 260 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: his family. Sources close to the James Is told ESPN 261 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: James was surprised by the news is processing it and 262 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: had no idea it was in the work. Sources said, 263 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: also breaking just now, that was twelve hours ago, breaking 264 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: just now. Lebron James also learning that the sky is blue, 265 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: and sources close to the situation saying he's just found 266 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: out grass is green and water is in fact wet. 267 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: So very good. Yeah, good reporting there. 268 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 5: During the break, you said something rich that turned my 269 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 5: brain on. And I remember, I believe it was this 270 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 5: show that I formulated it a couple years ago, maybe 271 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 5: last year, that when Lebron retires, he would move it 272 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 5: to he would have it team in Vegas as an owner. 273 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 274 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 5: When you look at who's purchased the Mavericks, the Addelson, 275 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: Mary Maddison, Big Vegas Empire. 276 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: Yep uh. 277 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 5: They just traded Luka Doncic to the Lakers to get 278 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 5: to help you know, to help Lebron whatever, what if 279 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: Addelson wants to move the Mavericks to Vegas. 280 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: Oh oh, and let's. 281 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: Take it a seid that you're right on the money 282 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: bow And how about this? 283 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: So one thing we do know about Lebron James is 284 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: that he has been very fascinated by Luka Doncic ever 285 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: since he came in the league. Like, this is a 286 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: guy that really intrigues him. If you if you really 287 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: look at their games, so very similar. When you look 288 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: at Luca's game, his numbers, you know, the rebounding, the 289 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: assist on top of all the scoring. It's very similar 290 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: to Lebron James type of player. But if you think 291 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: about it, right, right, So you have Adelson there with 292 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: all those connections to Vegas, acquiring controlling interest in the 293 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks, and all of a sudden you have a 294 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: partnership down the road. You already have Tom Brady and Vegas. 295 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: Why not Lebron James is Vegas. Lebron steps down, right, 296 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: I mean he fulfilled the last thing on his checklist 297 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: was what to play with his son, that's right, and 298 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: he did that. So forty years old, twenty two years 299 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: in the league, records that will probably never be broken, 300 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: and he steps away, and now the Lakers end up 301 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: with insurance for their future and luka doncic. It really 302 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: is amazing how the domino In fact, I'm reading I'm 303 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: hearing a lot of domino in the news right now, 304 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: like the domino effect of this trade. Well not just 305 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: on these two organizations, but the entire lead. 306 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Let me, let me give you the reason why my 307 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: brain went there, Bo and Steve. It's because so Sheldon Adelson. 308 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: If you remember back when the Raiders they were trying 309 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: to move back to Los Angeles, you know the double 310 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: Team Carson idea that fell through. But Mark Davis wanted 311 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: to move. He wanted to move, he wanted to get 312 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: out of Oakland. So all of a sudden, Vegas comes 313 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: up as a potentiality and he needed help. So who 314 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: did he call twenty five billion dollar net worth Cosmo 315 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: Hotel and casino mogul Sheldon Addelson, who massaged it through 316 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: the state to get seven hundred and fifty million dollars 317 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: approved in taxpayer money to help build the Rumba in 318 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: the Desert, which is a Legion stadium. Well, Sheldon Adelson 319 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: obviously is in Vegas for a reason. He's made hiss, 320 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: He's made his bones in Vegas's that's the family's fortune. 321 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: And so you're telling me that Addelson, his family members 322 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: who now owned the the Dallas Mavericks, aren't interested in 323 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: potentially finding a way to exploit a market that is 324 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: primed for the NBA, that is eager for the NBA. 325 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: This feels to me like a teardown. 326 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's no way the NBA is not in 327 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 5: Las Vegas in the next five six. 328 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: Years, precisely a chance. And I don't know how well 329 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: the NBA does in Dallas. I mean, obviously they've they 330 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: just had a Finals appearance. But I get the sincere 331 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: feeling that the only way you make a trade like this, 332 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: and and what I mean by like this, where one 333 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: side gets so lopsidedly bag over the head punched in 334 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: the trade like the Dallas Mavericks just did, is only 335 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: if you're eager to make sure that the demise of 336 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: this of this franchise is quick, like like there must 337 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: be a clock ticking somewhere in the near distance, Like 338 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: we got to make sure we suck bad enough so 339 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: that this city that we play in currently hates us 340 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: enough that the fan base is literally shoving us out 341 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: the door. 342 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 5: It's it's much easier to move your team when you 343 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 5: don't have a guy making three hundred and twenty million 344 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 5: dollars or which it is on your books. But also 345 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 5: when you think about it too, like it makes a 346 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 5: ton of sense for the Mavericks to move a doll 347 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 5: or to move Vegas because they don't even have to 348 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 5: change their name. They can just be the Las Vegas Mavericks. 349 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 5: That fits perfectly, Yeah, it does. 350 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: Look. 351 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: The bottom line is, though, if somehow Lebron, well, if 352 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: likely Lebron is involved in all the shenanigans, I don't 353 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: know how Lebron, if you ever cross passed with Anthony 354 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: Davis again, can never actually look him straight in the 355 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: eye and seriously say, dude, I had no idea, Man, 356 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: I just you know you're my god. 357 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: Isn't also under the Clutch Sports banner? 358 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 4: Is he? 359 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: So? I know Davis is obviously Lebron is Rich Paul, 360 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: his lifetime friend, is the CEO of Clutch Sports. I'm 361 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: fairly certain Doncic is under the day He's got this, 362 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean, but still the fact that ad is and 363 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: that Lebron is is saying that he had no idea. 364 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Rich Paul didn't pick up the phone. 365 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: Went Now, Lebron, I know we've known each other since childhood. 366 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: But there's something big that I'm doing behind the scenes 367 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: that I'm eager to tell you about. But I feel 368 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: like it would be a conflict of interest if I 369 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: talk to you about Do you want me to just 370 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: keep this under my cap or do you want me 371 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: to do you want to hear about it? Anyway? And 372 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: you're telling me that Lebron went, no, you keep it 373 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: to yourself. I'm gonna go to dinner with my family. 374 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: I know, guys, guys, guys, Lebron is involved in the 375 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: NBA's decisions. 376 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: Understand this, just like Michael Jordan was. 377 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: When Michael Jordan orchestrated his sudden retirement to play minor 378 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: league baseball and then his return to the sport and 379 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: everything else, he was getting compensated from not just the Bulls. 380 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: He was getting compensated by the league, he was getting 381 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: compensated by the networks. 382 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 3: He was of that kind of value. Now, I want 383 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: to say, Lebron, is. 384 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: That that stature, but the idea that you are now 385 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: looking at an end that's at the crossroads. 386 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: Their numbers have been down. 387 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: Your two biggest superstars are reaching the end, and that 388 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: would be Lebron and Steph. And so now the question 389 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: is how do we move forward. We need the Lakers 390 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: to be healthy. So the league's working with Lebron James. Right, Okay, Lebron, 391 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 2: what are your plans? What are we looking at the future. 392 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: We need you to still be involved in this league. 393 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: I like to get an ownership. Okay, great, where you 394 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: might be interested. So we mentioned this whole Vegas thing. Yeah, 395 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 2: but we got to take care of the Lakers. 396 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: Man. 397 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: The Lakers need to be good. We need I agree 398 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: with you, he knows. Hey, if I'm going to be 399 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: an owner in the NBA, the Lakers have to be relevant. 400 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: So let's make a deal. It'll make a deal. 401 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Lakers can't afford this, and they can't 402 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: make this. Dunches, he goes, I'm telling you, Donches is me. 403 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: He has the same skill set as me. He can 404 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: be that dynamic and he's only twenty five. Make the 405 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: deal happen. And this is how this deal happened. I mean, 406 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: I can't I where is Adam Silver, Well, I is 407 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: Adam Silk. 408 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: You will be questioning about this because whenever there is 409 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: such a shocking trade, obviously this is going to be 410 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: approved by the League. You know, the commissioner's desk saw 411 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: this trade before, because like we know everything that the 412 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: ownership does. 413 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 3: Well, how do you justify approving this deal? 414 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 5: Why do we need Adam Silver to step Like, why 415 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 5: do you want Adam Silver to step in and be 416 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 5: a nanny? 417 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 2: Well, it's not a matter of that, but he is 418 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: the commissional League, and he will be questionable. 419 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: I mean the trade already went through. The MAVs announced it, 420 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 5: so it's it's approved, it's done. 421 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: Well, the league can step in and we've we've heard 422 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: deals done that have been undone. 423 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they were stern did it several times? 424 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 5: Actually, well thought they were officially announced. 425 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: No, No, I agree with that. It would be unprecedented, 426 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: much like this trade. I mean, this is the most 427 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: shock I just. 428 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 5: I think teams should be allowed to make bad decisions. 429 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: I well, there's no question, but they listen. Okay, you're 430 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: one hundred accurate. I agree with you. Teams should be 431 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: allowed to make best as it favors your team. You're right. 432 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and as long as the intent isn't in, 433 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: is in anti competition, is in collusion of some sort. 434 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: This is in a situation like, hey, Lakers, Brass, Polinka, 435 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: Genie Buss, whoever, we really want to suck and make 436 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: it so that our fan base hates us so badly 437 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: that we can uproot our team and move to a 438 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: different city. Like that would be nefarious. That would be 439 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: Malfeason's You know, you have the Lakers on the other 440 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: side going great, where do we sign? 441 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 5: I just feel like this if this wasn't not the 442 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 5: Lakers that the Mavericks went to and said, hey, do 443 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 5: you want to do this, it wouldn't be a big issue. 444 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 5: But because it's the Lakers, everybody's asking for things that. 445 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: Bo on the other side. That LISTA showed me on 446 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: the Durant deal. I want you to read that off 447 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: on the other side. But first, but first let's find 448 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: out what is a trend? 449 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 6: That's it? Just that story. 450 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: So MANCEI, she's excited because now the Clippers are eight 451 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: and two with Kawhi in the court. Yep, So she's 452 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 2: not worried about the Lakers. They have no bigs right now, 453 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: short term, the Lakers don't look very good. 454 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: We don't even know when Luca's gonna play. 455 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 7: Short term, and that's that's really how I looked at 456 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 7: it yesterday. 457 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 6: Immediately I text Carry Rhodes because he's a MAVs fan. 458 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I just. 459 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 6: Was like, what is happening? 460 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 7: And I was texting Bow and I was like, this 461 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 7: is this trade is bringing out the best in Twitter. 462 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 6: What people were tweeting now was haul hilarious. 463 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 7: Yes, for hours and hours, I thoroughly enjoyed it. 464 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 6: I don't know, you're right. 465 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 7: Short term, it looks like maybe the MAVs got the 466 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 7: better side of it, like right now, But in the 467 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 7: long scheme of things, yes, Luka Doncic is the future 468 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 7: of basketball. 469 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 6: He can be the face and you put him with 470 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 6: the Lakers. 471 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 7: I mean, what a win win situation for the Lakers 472 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 7: in the grand scheme of things. 473 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 6: Now, we'll see what happens with all of that. 474 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 7: Apparently, you know, there was rumors that, oh, Lebron's now 475 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 7: gonna go to the Warriors. 476 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 6: And this is just the first step and getting rid 477 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 6: of him. 478 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 7: But Chris Hanes tweeted this morning and that no, Lebron 479 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 7: intends to remain a member of the Lakers past the 480 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 7: February sixth trade deadlines. So we'll see if anything else happens. 481 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 7: Because this is just wild, guys, It's so wild. But 482 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 7: I loved every second of it. 483 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 6: We enjoyed it. 484 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: When you talk about X and the reaction from like everybody, 485 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: from everyone, I mean everyone, everyone in the wrong, you know, 486 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: taking a break to react to this deal. And of 487 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: course you know a lot of people thought again that 488 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 2: Shab's account was hacked, hacked. 489 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 6: Nobody wanted to believe it when it first came out. 490 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 6: I mean, Patrick. 491 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 7: Mahomes was tweeting about it. Bleach your report just tweeted 492 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 7: a DJ at a party stopping the music to announce. 493 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 6: The trade at this party. 494 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 7: This is where we are because nobody could believe it, 495 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 7: so so crazy. 496 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 6: I'll give you some scores. 497 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 7: We do have some men's college hoops going on, which yesterday, 498 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 7: by the men by the way, and men's college hoops, 499 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 7: eleven ranked teams lost the most on any single day 500 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 7: in ap POL history, including John Caliperry Calipari Cali Perry, 501 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 7: Cali Perry and his Arkansas team upsetting number twelve Kentucky 502 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 7: eighty nine, to seventy nine. Right now, Ohio State is 503 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 7: beating number eighteen Illinois twenty seven to twenty three with 504 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 7: about seven minutes to go in the first half. In 505 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 7: men's are women's college hoops aces star Asia Wilson in 506 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 7: the WNBA. 507 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 6: She had her jersey retired today by South Carolina. 508 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 7: Yes, bam at Abio was there, so the rumors of 509 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 7: them maybe dating. Yes, he was there. And the game 510 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 7: Cocks are right now beating Auburn seventy two to fifty 511 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 7: three with six minutes to go in the fourth quarter. 512 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 7: And of course, fever star Caitlin Clark is gonna have 513 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 7: her jersey retired by Iowa today after their game against USC. 514 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 7: That just tipped off, which is why I'm wearing my 515 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 7: Caitlin Clark Iowa that Iowa Sam gave MEO. That's right, 516 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 7: and that's it. 517 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: Guys. 518 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 6: Did you hear about the trade? 519 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, there is that official. 520 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 6: It is official. Yes, the Maps tweeted it. They said 521 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 6: welcome Anthony Davis. 522 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: Real. All right, well, Matsie, keep checking out social media 523 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 2: because that's right everyone's talking about. Once again, we are 524 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: live from the tire rack dot Com Studios. Fox Football Sunday, 525 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: Hartman and Ornberger. All right, both showed me a list. 526 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: So when the Nets made the deal with the Suns, 527 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: where Durant leaves the Nets to go to the Suns 528 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: thirty four years old at the time, Okay, we're talking 529 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: about now, a twenty five year old, donchess. Give us 530 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: a list of what the Nets actually ended up getting 531 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 2: in return for a thirty four year old Kevin Durant. 532 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 5: Okay, So the Nets turned thirty four year old Katie. 533 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 5: This is all per Eric Slater, he's a nets beat 534 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 5: reporter for Clutch points. They turned thirty four year old 535 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant into Cam Johnson, Zayre Williams. A twenty three 536 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 5: first from Phoenix, a twenty five first from Phoenix, a 537 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 5: twenty five first from the Knicks, a twenty five first 538 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 5: from Milwaukee, a twenty seven first from Phoenix, a twenty 539 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 5: seven first from the Knicks, a twenty eight first swap 540 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 5: with the Sons, a twenty eight first swap with the Knicks, 541 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 5: a twenty nine first from Phoenix, a twenty nine first 542 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 5: from the Knicks, a twenty thirty one first from the Knicks, 543 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 5: and a bunch of second round picks from twenty five 544 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 5: to twenty thirty, and the Mavericks turned twenty five year 545 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 5: old Luka Doncic into Anthony Davis, Max Christy and a 546 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: twenty nine first Yeah. 547 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 2: So you're talking if I was counting correctly there not 548 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: counting the first swaps at least eleven number one picks. 549 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 5: Thirteen picks totalsly yeah, Ten first rounders. 550 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ten first round picks yeah. 551 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: Ten first round picks yeah, ten and second ten and 552 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: Dallas Skins one first round pick. I mean, come hot 553 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: for an All NBA superstar five straight years first team 554 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: All NBA going into this year at age twenty five 555 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: to ten. I mean this is again, where is the 556 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: commissioner to at least answer questions on how this is 557 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: feasible that this trade is approved? 558 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: Well? 559 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 7: Is it? 560 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 5: I just I don't think that we want to start 561 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 5: the slippery slope of having commissioners be like putting their 562 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 5: hands into league business like that. 563 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: You do understand there was these ted Sectian rule Yeah, 564 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: I understand that where he ended up training all these 565 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: you know, for future picks, and they actually. 566 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 5: See step can't Yeah, you can't shange the rules. 567 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: That's how the Lakers ended up with James Worthy is 568 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: the number one overall pick on a trade they had 569 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: made seven years before. 570 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. 571 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 5: Like so back in twenty twenty when the Rams traded 572 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 5: for Matt Stafford, if the Niners had an issue with that, 573 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 5: they should have complained to the commissioner and Goodell should 574 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: have stepped in to stop it. 575 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, look at it again. There is a long history, 576 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: and look at it. You're taking it from a guy 577 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: that's been around the lakes. 578 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Whatever. 579 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: But the Lakers have gotten favorable deals time after time. 580 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Lakers aren't the only team, though. 581 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: They are by far the biggest beneficiary of one sided 582 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: deals in the history. 583 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: Of the NBA. 584 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 5: I would argue there's there's not been a bigger beneficiarya 585 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 5: of luck and deals than the Golden State Warriors adding 586 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant to a team that won two games or 587 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 5: whatever it was, or seventy three games. 588 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: But they didn't even need him. 589 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 5: Well, but they added him because they got lucky. 590 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: We should investigate what that trade deal looked like, I mean, 591 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: or did he know? 592 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 5: It's because it's because Steph got hurt early enough in 593 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 5: his career that they could sign him for cheaper and then, 594 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 5: because I believe it was because of the lockout, the 595 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 5: cap smoothed just enough in that offseason for them to fill. Hey, 596 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 5: that happens. 597 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: It was like a two hour wish. 598 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 5: Should we investigate the Clippers for collusion when they got 599 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 5: Paul George and. 600 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: Hang on a second, Hang on a second though that 601 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: that Durant was a free agent sign Yeah he. 602 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 5: Was, but they still they still lucked into the rules 603 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 5: changing enough for them to get him. 604 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: That feels lucky. The Lakers could also just be lucky. 605 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I. 606 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 5: Think I think part of it too, Like NBA GM's 607 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 5: are so obsessed with this idea of flexibility and having 608 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 5: as many picks as they can get that they're then 609 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 5: scared to do anything with them. Like the thunder have 610 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 5: had all these picks for decades or you know, for 611 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: a decade now they've they've had all these picks that 612 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 5: they haven't turned into anything yet. 613 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: Really, how are they doing right now? 614 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 5: They're the top seed in the West, But have they 615 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 5: won anything? 616 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: I will give you an example. What do you say 617 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: they haven't done anything? They went from the bottom feeders. 618 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 5: But have they won the championship? 619 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: Well, not yet yet. 620 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: Abslutely one of the favorites this year either. 621 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 5: But they could have traded some of those picks that 622 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 5: he's stockpiled to. 623 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: Give you example bough of kind of what you're saying, right, So, yes, 624 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: if it were a different team, we'd probably feel differently 625 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: about this, the Deshaun Watson trade. To use a different sport, 626 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was available for hire. He hadn't played because 627 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: of all, you know, what was unraveling about him in 628 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: his personal life, but he was the bell of the 629 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: ball for that offseason. If you remember, all these different 630 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: teams were, you know, vying for a trade package with 631 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans for his services, and their assumption, whoever 632 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: was going to win this sweepstakes was going to have 633 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Right, that 634 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: was the assumption at the time. I know it has 635 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: worked out very differently for Cleveland and for Deshaun Watson 636 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: in the aftermath, but that was the thought process. So 637 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns not only trade is it two first 638 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: rounders to the Houston Texans for Deshaun Watson, which now 639 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 1: looks like Houston won the deal hands down because of 640 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: how bad Deshaun Watson has played on the other side 641 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: of it. Plus they gave him that guaranteed contract, and 642 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: then you look at what Houston has turned it into. 643 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: C J. 644 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Stroud will Anderson Junior out of Alabama, who's been one 645 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: of the better. 646 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: Defensives Enerjet for a second. Ere the reason they gave 647 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: up so much as there was competition for the. 648 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Services at Shan Watson. 649 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: Right now, all Wes seem to know about this deal 650 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: was is that the Mavericks call the Lakers say are 651 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: you interested in Luka Doncic? I mean, if there had 652 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: been any hint that Luca was on the market, you 653 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: don't think a guy like Shams would have known about it. 654 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: You don't think anybody would report the idea that, believe 655 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 2: it or not, Luka Doncic is on the market. 656 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: That never happened. 657 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: So this was one call by the. 658 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: Mavericks to the Lakers saying are you interested in Luka Doncic? 659 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: And a deal was done just like that. Yep, this 660 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: is what we have. 661 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: A notion that Doncic had provided the Dallas Mavericks the 662 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: runway to move on from him, in part because it 663 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: was way too as one as one can graciously exit 664 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: Dallas by allowing them to get something in return for him. 665 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: So he apparently started the conversation why the Lakers? 666 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: Why would if you would if you had put Luka 667 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: Doncic on the open market to the highest bidder, which 668 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: is what normally a team would do. If you're trying 669 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: to get rid of a superstar in the prime of 670 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: his career, you would put him out on the open 671 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: market and see how much. 672 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: You can get. And they didn't do that. 673 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they just wanted to specifically call the Lakers. 674 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: And say, can you give us Anthony Davis? 675 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: Oh? Sure? Is it? 676 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 5: It's either collision with the Lakers to get them a 677 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 5: superstar or Nico Harrison is a bad GM, and which 678 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: one is more likely? 679 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: I would I would argue. I would argue this. 680 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 5: Because do you remember what his first move was as 681 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 5: the MAVs GM. 682 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: I do not. 683 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 5: It was letting Jalen Brunson walk for nothing. 684 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: All right, Listen, he could be a bad GM and 685 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: when he was when he was an executive with Nike. Okay, 686 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: who pays him? Adelson? 687 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: Okay, so he is doing what Addelson is telling him 688 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: to do. 689 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I was good. 690 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 5: I think that the MAVs had no intention of paying 691 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 5: him the super Max money. 692 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: Right, so they're five years Serena four. 693 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 5: We're doing everything they can as they send him out 694 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 5: of town to make it look hold the thought. 695 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: Are we are? We all like under the spell that 696 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: never in the history of the NBA have things been 697 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: promised either to a coach who obviously is under contract 698 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: with an ownership. There's no union that represents coaches, or 699 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: that a general manager who is a part of the 700 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: front office has never been told explicitly this never leaves 701 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: this room. But dot dot dot, how much gone on? 702 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Suck this year and the years to follow, So we 703 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: can we can make it so we can move on 704 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: from this hell hole we consider a city, So we 705 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: can we can move our team to a different market. 706 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: Because we've seen this time and time again, and every 707 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: single time it happens, we know on the outside what's happening. Oh, 708 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: this team's tanking for a draft pick. Oh, this team's 709 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: tanking because they they're they're they want a new stadium 710 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: and they're threatening to move. Oh, this team's doing this 711 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 1: and it seems so obvious. But everybody on the outside 712 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: of the ropes is making assumptions and everybody on the 713 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: inside of the ropes is saying, we would never do 714 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: that to our fans. We love loves Vegas, I mean Dallas. 715 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 5: They're trying to do. They're trying to do a reverse 716 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 5: Major League. They're trying to do a Major League right 717 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 5: where they just stink and they moved to Vegas. But 718 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 5: they Nico Harrison is such a bad GM. He messed 719 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 5: up and got a good player. 720 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: Now he's a great because he's doing exactly what the 721 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 2: owners telling to do. Yeah, how was it amazing that 722 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs pulled an inside straight to get 723 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 2: Wemby on their team? Remember that one pulled an inside straight? 724 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: How did that possibly happen? All right, we'll continue on 725 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: with this, and yes, we are going to beginning our 726 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: breakdown of the matchup, and it's going to be a 727 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 2: very interesting matchup. In fact, I've got some very interesting 728 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: thoughts myself about who's going to actually win that game 729 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: coming up a week from today, we'll break it all 730 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: down here on Fox Football Sunday. 731 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: Steve Harbin and a Rich Armurger. 732 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday, we live from the Ti rag dot 733 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: Com studios. I know we haven't talked any football yet 734 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 2: we will. I promise you that, no doubt. But there 735 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: are so many unanswered questions. I mean, we could go 736 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 2: all day on this doncic Ad trade, but they're just 737 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: everyone's digesting it. You know, happens late on a Saturday night. 738 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: By the way, if you're Schams, yeah and you got this, okay, okay, 739 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: kid me. First of all, a trade of this magnitude. 740 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: The idea that there wasn't a hint of this deal, 741 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: not a hint of this deal. Something just everybody that's 742 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: directly involved in this, including Chams, something doesn't smell right here. 743 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 3: There's no way a deal like this. 744 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: You know how many NBA insiders there are that are 745 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: literally on the phone or on notice twenty four to seven, 746 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: and not a single one, not one had even a 747 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: hint of this deal. Only Chams had that deal. 748 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 5: Do you think that woj was looking at his phone 749 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 5: like the green Goblin mask, like just one more time. 750 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, one more Like in his office 751 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 1: somewhere at Saint Joe's just thinking to himself. 752 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: Like, okay, I must crush so the idea one more. 753 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 1: Bumb So you know, Lebron. 754 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: Had no clue. Nobody had a clue. No, no team 755 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: in the league hurt anything. Honestly, I there's going to 756 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: be an investigation, and there should be. 757 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: I've watched Lebron James read chapter books in the Lakers 758 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: dressing room. I've watched him you know where, He's on 759 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,959 Speaker 1: the last page, very clearly finishing up a long book. 760 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: And then when questioned about reading the book, they say like, hey, so, 761 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: what was your favorite part of the book. He was like, 762 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, all of it. Honestly, if I were to 763 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: pick one chapter, I would be doing disservice to the author. 764 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 5: Didn't really like the way the cat in the Hat 765 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 5: was so many to those kids. 766 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: I remember one time they asked him what his favorite 767 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: movie was, and he said, without hesitation, The Godfather. And 768 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: they said, what's your favorite line from the movie The Godfather? 769 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: And he went, gosh, all of them, all of them, okay, 770 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: And I mean, and you know, I mean so like 771 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: I mean, and I believe him because you know me too, 772 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: being a Godfather fan. I mean, I'm afraid, oh, Michael Corlin, 773 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you could go anybody, any anybody in that movie. 774 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: Everything's quotable. So I trust Lebron. I trust Lebron. There 775 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: I hold his word to the highest regard in terms 776 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: of trustworthiness. If he says that he was having a 777 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: delicious spaghetti dinner in the city of New York and 778 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: and and he was completely unaware that his teammate Anthony 779 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: Davis was being traded for Luka Doncic. Yeah I believe. 780 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, no one does, and uh no one does, 781 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: and no one believes that Cham's was somehow just miraculously 782 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: fell into this story with not a single basketball insider 783 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: having any knowledge. We're we got to turn our attention 784 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 2: to the big game. This is Fox Football Sunday, rolling 785 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: along here on a very busy sports day. Indeed, Fox 786 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: Football Sunday broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios. 787 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 3: Tyrack dot Com. We're gonna get you there, and. 788 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 2: I'm attch selection fast reshipping free road has a protection 789 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommended and installers ti rat dot com 790 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be. 791 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: All right. 792 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 2: So if anything else happens about this deal in the NBA, 793 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 2: and you know what I'm talking about, we'll update you. 794 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: But he this show here is Fox Football Sunday. And 795 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: last time I checked my calendar, we are exactly seven 796 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: days away from kickoff of Super Bowl fifty nine, the 797 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 2: rematch between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. 798 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of rematches, so this is the 799 00:40:53,840 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 2: ninth time that two different franchises have had rematches in 800 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 2: Super Bowls. Not necessary obviously back to back years, but rematches. 801 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: Only two teams have ever faced each other three times. 802 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: Interesting, two teams have faced each other three times in 803 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl three times in a Super Bowl. It's 804 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: got to be Patriots Giants was twice. 805 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: Oh man, there's only one time that two teams have 806 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: faced each other three times in the Super Bowl. 807 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: Steelers and Steelers. Packers, No, who, Steelers who? Cowboys? Oh, 808 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys Cowboys twice in the Tom Landry era. Yeah, yea, 809 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: you know later when Yeah. 810 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 2: So that's the only three. But here's here's the interesting 811 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: thing about this. So for the last five times we've 812 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 2: had a rematch, the team that won the first game 813 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 2: also won the second game. 814 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 3: The one exception the New England Patriots and the Philadelphia Eagles. 815 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 3: Patriots beat the Eagles back when Andy Reid was the coach, 816 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 3: and then in the rematch, of course, Doug Peterson and 817 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: Nick Foles led the Eagles to the victory over. 818 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: The New England Patriots. And why is that significant? Well, 819 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: here here's my thought. Obviously we're going to do a 820 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: lot of breaking down as far as a lot of 821 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 2: the technical stuff and everything else, but. 822 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: Here here's just there's a reason why. 823 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 2: No team has won three straight Super Bowls. Winning won 824 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 2: Super Bowl is tough enough. The idea of winning back 825 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 2: to back Super Bowls is it's almost unfathomable. Eight teams 826 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: had done it before, none of which had ever actually 827 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 2: made it back to the Super Bowls the first time 828 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 2: ever teams won back to back Super Bowls and then 829 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 2: been in the Super Bowl with an opportunity win three 830 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: straight Super Bowls. But it is a long haul and 831 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 2: you need a lot of breaks. And one thing we 832 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: have seen about the Kansas City Chiefs, this current edition 833 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: of the Chiefs, I believe they have now won seventeen 834 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: consecutive one score games. We'll just think about that for 835 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: a second. Okay, this is an all time NFL record, 836 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 2: including the postseason, seventeen consecutive one score games. I mean, 837 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: when you think about it, if you look at one 838 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: score games, it predictably is like flipping a coin heads 839 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: or tails. 840 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 3: It's a fifty to fifty proposition. 841 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: So it's the equivalent of flipping a coin seventeen straight 842 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 2: times and correctly predicting the outcome. That's how unreal this 843 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: streak is for the Chiefs. 844 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: In one score games. 845 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 2: Even think what happened in the Super Bowl two years ago, right, yep, 846 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: you remember how that played out. The Eagles came down, 847 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: tied the game, got the two point conversion to tie 848 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: it up, and then the Chiefs I think there was 849 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: like four minutes left, but they ran the whole all 850 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: clock down. There was that incredible Every time that Patrick 851 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,959 Speaker 2: Mahomes scrambles, it's always like the biggest scramble over right, 852 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: he just goes right up the middle, takes the knee, 853 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 2: and they just ran out the clock, kicked the last 854 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: second field go game over. 855 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 3: My gut feeling is this time is run out on 856 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 3: the Chiefs. 857 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: The reality is, if we break down these rosters, you 858 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 2: have an Eagles team that was number one in the 859 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 2: league in total defense, number one in the league in 860 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: passing defense. They have the best running back in the league, 861 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: and they have a team of veterans who've been in 862 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. So it's not like, Wow, never been 863 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 2: here before. It's you know, they've all been there, including 864 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: their quarterback. So on paper at least, I won't figure 865 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 2: it out as we go, but on paper at least 866 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 2: there is a significant advantage. I believe in talent on 867 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 2: both sides of the football, favoring the Philadelphia Eagles in 868 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty nine. 869 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with everything you've said. I think that 870 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are a better prepared situational football team than 871 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 1: most teams in the NFL. However, they are facing an 872 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: opponent with a better roster overall, except for one key piece, 873 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: maybe two key pieces, and one obviously more important than 874 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: the other. First key piece your quarterback. The Chiefs have 875 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: the better quarterback. All those clutch stats that you just reviewed, 876 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: winning games between one and eight points behind in the 877 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter in overtime, the percentage of wins that Patrick 878 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: Maholmes has in those situations is absurd. He is inarguably 879 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: one of the most clutch players we've ever seen in 880 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: sports history at the professional level. He's unbelievably calculated and 881 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: he can execute in those moments. But also they have 882 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, and in my opinion, over the years, he 883 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: has developed into one of the better situational coaches in 884 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. Nick Sirianni's patrolling the opposite sideline. Coach and 885 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: quarterback are a pairing that you cannot overlook. And if 886 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: you go back through the history of Super Bowl winners, 887 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: especially teams who have had long standing success in the 888 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: postseason and the Super Bowl, I mean, it works really 889 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: well when you start when you start to look at 890 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: that coach quarterback comparison or that pairing. You know, look 891 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 1: at Brady and Belichick, look at the Dallas Cowboys, look 892 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: at the Montana Walsh era, you know, Reid and Mahomes. 893 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: That is the biggest reason why I still throw my Yes, 894 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: it's hard to three peat, but I still throw my 895 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: support behind the Kansas City Chiefs. It's undeniable. Well, and 896 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna deny that. 897 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: And I would say this, Betty against the Chiefs, do 898 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 2: it at your own risk. 899 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,919 Speaker 1: I mean, here was the thing. 900 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,879 Speaker 2: When you watch that AFC Championship game, we just saw 901 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: it was a close game throughout, but you never got 902 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: a sense that the Bills thought. 903 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 3: They were gonna win the game. 904 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you always got a sense from the Bills standpoint that, yeah, 905 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 2: it just seemed like, all right, we're hanging in there. 906 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: Think about this stat. Someone gave me. 907 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 2: The stat about teams that had scored at least four 908 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 2: touchdowns with no turnovers were something like fifteen and two 909 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. The two losses were both the Bills 910 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 2: at KC. The Bills scored the only turnover the game 911 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,439 Speaker 2: was that Patrick Mahomes fumble. So no turnovers, you scored 912 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 2: at least four touchdowns, and you lose the game. And 913 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: so there's an inevitability that I just felt that the 914 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 2: whole game of the Bills, like all right, we're making 915 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: it close, we're keeping we're staying in this game, but 916 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna. 917 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: Lose this game. 918 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 3: They're they're just gonna find a way. 919 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: This is why. And I agree with the whole hardly 920 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: at the top. 921 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 2: The idea of conspiracy theories and all this are a 922 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 2: complete mockery. But if you are a believer in conspiracy theories, 923 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 2: it's easy to justify that belief based on how the 924 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: Chiefs have time and again, certainly the last couple of years, 925 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 2: whether it's the fault of their opponent or making some 926 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 2: miraculous play on their own, they always seemingly come out 927 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 2: on top. 928 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: All right, So the Chiefs have gone eleven straight playoff 929 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: games without committing more penalties than our opponents. That is 930 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: the longest streak of any team in the NFL. 931 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 3: In officiating. Who calls the penalties? 932 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: Who calls the penalties? The officials? Right? Yeah, Now, that 933 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: is obviously no fault of the Chiefs that they've had 934 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: this streak of luck if you want to call it that, 935 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: or potentially have gotten favor from certain crews. There's no 936 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,959 Speaker 1: questioning that it's not their fault. What I will say 937 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: is the fault of one or the other side on 938 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: the playing field in terms of the opponents. How about 939 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: the opponent for not capitalizing on some of the mistakes? Oh, 940 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: and here's why, because the Chiefs don't make a lot 941 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: of them in important games. It is rare to see 942 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs make more mistakes than their opponent. That's the 943 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: reason why they've been so successful. There are now comparisons 944 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: being drawn between Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, and they're saying, look, 945 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,720 Speaker 1: how many more calls Patrick Mahomes gets than Tom Brady 946 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: did during the Patriots two decade long dynasty. It's like 947 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 1: revisionist history, though, because when I was in New England 948 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: and I was playing for the Patriots, everybody hated the 949 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: Patriots because the Patriots always got all the calls and 950 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: they cheated twice. And I can't tell you how many 951 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,720 Speaker 1: times I grew up in New York, I was drafted 952 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: as a New England Patriots player, and half of my 953 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: friends and family were like, look, we love you and 954 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: we'll always root for you, but we hate the Pats, 955 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: So screw your team. We hope that you guys lose 956 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: every game. Like people hated, like viscerally hated the Patriots. 957 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 1: And oh, they're looking at the past with these rose 958 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: colored glasses on saying Brady didn't get all these roughing 959 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 1: the passer calls BS baloney. I remember everybody complaining about 960 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: that back then. And you want to know why, Well, 961 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: it's because when the Patriots were good, just like the 962 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: Chiefs are right now, when you made a mistake against 963 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots, they made you pay for it. Like so, 964 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 1: if you cost yourself fifteen yards on a questionable roughing 965 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: the passer call, guess what the Patriots were scoring. They 966 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 1: were finishing with the ball in the end zone. Same 967 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: thing with the Kansas City Chiefs. Not to say that 968 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: they haven't had good luck. They have the statistics work 969 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: out where they are on a thirty year streak of 970 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: having more consecutive playoff games with with less penalties than 971 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: their opponents. There's no question that luck has played a 972 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: role or potentially some favoritism by certain officiating crews. Do 973 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a conspiracy. No, I don't think the 974 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: NFL is conspiring to make Kansas City the bell of 975 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: the ball. Do I think the Chiefs are a better 976 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: prepared team with a better quarterback than every other single 977 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: team in the NFL right now? The answer is one 978 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: hundred percent Yes, Well, I would equate it to this. 979 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 1: So does the best looking girl in the room get 980 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: the most attention? 981 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 2: Almost always, almost always right, whether deserved or not, just 982 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 2: based on appearance. And so when you are the New 983 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 2: England Patriots back in the day or the current Kansas 984 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 2: City Chiefs, you're the best looking woman in the world, Steve, 985 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: you and I are boxing fans, right and from what 986 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 2: I say, but this is part of the idea. The 987 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 2: idea is is that when we talk about the officials, 988 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 2: it's almost human nature to subconsciously favor the best looking person. 989 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: In the room. Yep, yep, that's pretty much what happens. 990 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 2: It may not be a conscious decision, but it's sort 991 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 2: of a subconscious decision. 992 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: Popularity, you know, it breeds favorite, there's no question about it. 993 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: So you're right. Human nature does play role in this. 994 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: And guess what, this is a very human subjective sport 995 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: to call because most of the penalties being called are 996 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: subjective pass interference holding, roughing the pass, or offensive or 997 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: defensive holding. By the way, I mean, there are so 998 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 1: few like black and white, you know, over the line 999 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 1: without subjectivity calls that you can make through a question you. 1000 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 2: Talk about this, Yeah, do you feel like in your 1001 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 2: time in the New England Patriots you got more favorable 1002 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 2: treatment than officials than when you were with the Arizona Cardinals. 1003 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: I would, I would say, God, and not. 1004 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 2: Only you, but your your linemates as well. Now you 1005 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 2: felt like when you got to Arizona, a really bad 1006 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 2: team that one year after leaving the Patriots, that seem 1007 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 2: like things that we might have gotten away with as 1008 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 2: a group in New England. They were not giving Arizona 1009 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 2: the same favoritists. If I'm answering, honestly, I would answer no, 1010 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 2: I didn't notice. I swear I didn't notice. Whether it's 1011 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 2: better or worse. I promise you that's that's an honest answer. 1012 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 2: What I will say is this, we're both boxing fans, 1013 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 2: and in boxing, you give a tie to the champion. 1014 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Always. I mean went a lot of those. If 1015 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: you're a contender. If you're a contender, you better beat 1016 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: the champ. You better beat the champ, knock out the champ, 1017 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: leave no stone unturned, be undeniably the best, and you 1018 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: get the belt. That is what the rest of the 1019 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: NFL is up against when they play the Kansas City Chiefs. 1020 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: You got to beat the Chiefs. And guess what the 1021 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: team just lost to them in the AFC championship game. 1022 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 1: They had the secret sauce in the regular season. They 1023 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,399 Speaker 1: could not replicate it in the championship game. But that's 1024 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 1: where great teams shine. 1025 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 2: They kept it close, which was a sure recipe to lose. 1026 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 2: That's what happened to the Buffalo Bills. 1027 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:52,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1028 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 2: On the other side, if you are frantically looking for 1029 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 2: a reason why the Chiefs will not win this game, 1030 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 2: unfortunately I have more bad news for you. 1031 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 3: We'll explain. This is Fox Football Sunday. 1032 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: Steve Harvin and rich Ronberger. Here Fox Football Sunday. 1033 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 2: We are live from the tire rack dot Com studios. 1034 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,240 Speaker 2: By the way, updating on the aftermath of the Luka 1035 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 2: Doncic Anthony Davis trade, It's now being reported that Lebron 1036 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 2: James intends on staying with the Lakers. 1037 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: That's a that's a really that's big. 1038 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 2: Breaking news, breaking news. Yeah, I mean I like that 1039 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 2: breaking news. Lebron says he will stay with the Lakers. Wow, wow, Wow, 1040 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,240 Speaker 2: whoa caught me off guard with that one. 1041 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 1: Where were you when you heard that Lebron said he 1042 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: was gonna stay. 1043 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 5: The Lakers also have made the trade official, so Luka 1044 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 5: Don is officially a Laker. He's wearing number seventy seven. 1045 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 2: I saw the pictures of the seventy seven, and we 1046 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 2: have no idea when he's gonna know. 1047 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 5: But MAVs GM Nico Harrison did speak prior to the 1048 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 5: MAVs game today. He said that Luca gave no indication 1049 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 5: that he wanted out or wouldn't sign an extension moving forward, 1050 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 5: and that the Lakers were the only team that he 1051 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 5: talked to. 1052 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had he didn't have a no trade in 1053 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: his deal. 1054 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 5: I don't think. I think only Lebron and Bradley Beal 1055 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 5: have no trades in the NBA. Really yeah, I don't 1056 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 5: think there's that many no trade. 1057 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,280 Speaker 1: Cancers in the NBA. Interesting. What is so fascinating about 1058 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: all this is we will will never know exactly why 1059 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,240 Speaker 1: or how this deal came together, because nobody will admit 1060 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: one hundred percent why this happened. Because if the most 1061 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: logical conclusion is that the Lakers and the Dallas Mavericks 1062 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: mutually discussed behind closed doors, and I'm talking about some 1063 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: of the highest of the highest ups, how this would 1064 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: benefit themselves, either on the short term or into the future. 1065 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: More looking forward into the future, and much to the 1066 00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: chagrin of Dallas Mavericks fans, I would say, I would say, 1067 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 1: we'll never really know what happened. 1068 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 5: That is the I do feel really bad for Mavericks fans. Uh, 1069 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 5: they are very rightfully pissed off at their franchise. But 1070 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 5: but but if you see the pictures at the outside 1071 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 5: of their arena today, well, like. 1072 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 2: Kenny, if you're gonna trade Luka Doncic, you're gonna you're 1073 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 2: gonna have everybody out there competing. 1074 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,919 Speaker 3: And you're gonna get ten number ones you're gonna get. 1075 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1076 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,320 Speaker 2: Think about the Hall that OKC got for Paul George, 1077 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 2: the speculation, the clip like this is Shade Gills. All 1078 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 2: those number one picks, I mean those are all nice 1079 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 2: pick I do think that we are kind of underrating 1080 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis a little bit here. 1081 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 3: He's thirty one years old and. 1082 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,280 Speaker 5: He's a he's a top ten player in the NBA. 1083 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 3: How much longer is he gonna be around? 1084 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 5: Do you think I do you think the MAVs care 1085 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 5: about that? If the pair of Kyrie and Ad carry 1086 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 5: them on a long playoff run, get to the finals. 1087 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 1: Okay, if they win a championship this year. This is 1088 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, is so like, we'll never 1089 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 1: know the exact how or why, right, but the closest 1090 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: we'll get to having a reasonable explanation if we're not 1091 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: going to believe that there was any conclusion or collusion, 1092 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 1: that we're not going to believe that this was in 1093 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: some nefarious intentions. If the Dallas Mavericks end up getting 1094 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: back to the finals and winning it, we'll say, Okay, 1095 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: what they were doing is in maybe a little bit 1096 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: of a short sighted way, sacrificing the future for sure, 1097 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: short term gain. They were trying to get it all 1098 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: together while they felt the iron was the hottest to strike. 1099 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: And you know what, as it turns out, they made 1100 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: a good decision on that front, and they'll deal with 1101 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: the fallout in the future. Okay, So you could make 1102 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: that argument, and if it all works out that way, 1103 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: maybe that's a worthy argument. More likely, Anthony Davis is 1104 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: pissed that he is in Dallas right now. Luka, Doncic 1105 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: is happy that he's in La because I think he 1106 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: was catching a lot of flak from this organization about, 1107 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, the way he's comported himself in the offseason 1108 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: and things like that. And he's playing with inarguably the 1109 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: biggest star still in the NBA and Lebron James playing 1110 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 1: in the second biggest market in the country where he'll 1111 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: make more money marketing wise than he ever has in Dallas. 1112 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: Like so, Lucas very happy, Lebron's happy. So the only 1113 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: person who really loses out on this trade is Anthony Davison. 1114 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: The fans. Yeah. 1115 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 5: February February twenty fifth, the Lakers play the Mavericks here 1116 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 5: at a crypto or stables. 1117 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: Everyone to call it I don't think there's gonna be 1118 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: a lot of smiles. 1119 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 5: I have a feeling that might be a fifty to 1120 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 5: twenty game from Anthony Davis that'll be well earned. 1121 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: By the way, he won't be that upset. 1122 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 2: The last year of his deal that he has right 1123 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 2: now will pay him sixty six million dollars the last. 1124 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: Year of that deal. How is he ever going to 1125 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, how are you going to survive on that 1126 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: kind of money? Understand? All right? 1127 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 2: Getting back to football for a moment here now, This 1128 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 2: could be a very distressing stat if you are hoping 1129 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 2: that the Kansas City Chiefs are going to be defeated 1130 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 2: in Super Bowl fifty nine. 1131 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 3: Oh boy, this is this is not a good stat. 1132 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: You're about to break a lot of hearts. 1133 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: So Vic Fanji, the defensive coordinator of the Eagles, longtime 1134 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator in the NFL. As a coordinator, his record 1135 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 2: against Patrick Mahomes is ohn eight. 1136 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: Eight. 1137 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 2: So yes, Mahomes is eight and oher against Vic Fangio defenses. 1138 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 1: All right, all right, so I want look at it. 1139 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 2: As I said, the Eagles had the number one total 1140 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 2: defense in the NFL this year, number one passing defense 1141 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 2: in the NFL. Now, if you look back at the 1142 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 2: teams that had the best success against Tom Brady, the 1143 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 2: two wins by the Giants to win by the Eagles 1144 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 2: in both those games, all three of those games, teams 1145 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 2: were able to get him a little bit off the mark, 1146 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 2: you know, by putting pressure up the middle, you know, 1147 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,439 Speaker 2: getting him uncomfortable. Sure, so, Vic Fangio has seen enough. 1148 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure of Patrick Mahomes climbing and how many times 1149 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 2: do we watch the Chiefs where he takes off on 1150 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:03,919 Speaker 2: a run. 1151 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: You're like, why weren't you spine on him? 1152 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 2: Or you know, Travis Kelsey is wide open, Like are 1153 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 2: you kidding me? How are you allowing Kelsey to be 1154 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 2: wide open? No one knows defense in the NFL better 1155 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 2: than Vic Fangio. I mean, he's been around this game forever. 1156 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 2: He has prepared many times to face off against Patrick Mahomes. 1157 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 2: So you've got to come up with a wrinkle in 1158 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 2: your defense that they can't obviously see in your tendencies 1159 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 2: that you've been doing this year with the Eagles. What 1160 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,919 Speaker 2: do you think Vic Fangio has up his sleeve, Because 1161 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 2: you've got to come up with something to figure out a. 1162 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Way to beat Patrick Mahomes. All right, I'm going to 1163 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: give you about a sixty second dire tribe on what 1164 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: makes Patrick Mahomes so difficult to defend. So, Patrick Mahomes 1165 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: has an understanding of a multitude of things, but most importantly, 1166 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: what the defense is doing to him. Whatever picture you 1167 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: present to him pre snap, he has a plan for 1168 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: an answer to the question you're posing whatever shift made 1169 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: post snap, or if you're gonna spin the defense. You know, 1170 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: a lot of times what you'll see when defense are 1171 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,959 Speaker 1: trying to disguise things is coverage more favoring one side 1172 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: of the field. It looks like they're gonna blitz off 1173 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 1: the offense is right, and then all of a sudden, 1174 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: the coverage spins to the left side of the field 1175 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: to cover up some of the problems that'll present for 1176 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: coverage to that side. As they're bringing a corner blitz 1177 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: or something like that. You'll see all those things. Those 1178 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: pictures happen really quickly. They're happening in real time. But 1179 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: the problem with defending Patrick Mahomes is he knows it's 1180 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: going to happen. He knows your tendencies. He understands how 1181 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: to protect against those things, whether he is going to 1182 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: shift his pass protection to take care of the problems, 1183 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: or he's gonna know the hot receiver to get the 1184 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 1: ball too fast to defeat the blitz. Now, if you 1185 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: want to play coverage against him and play a two 1186 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: deep or three deep shell, he's going to pepper the 1187 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: ball underneath to his running back, his tight ends like 1188 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Gray and Kelsey, Or he's going to find his receivers 1189 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: on short routes or crossing routes over the middle. He's 1190 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: going to throw it to the voidts in the zones. 1191 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: If you play man defense against him, he is going 1192 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: to find the mismatches. He's going to find Travis Kelcey 1193 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 1: with a linebacker who has no business covering Travis Kelcey, 1194 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 1: and that's how he gets so open. Or he is 1195 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: going to find a way to motion or shift a 1196 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: receiver so he has a favorable matchup against a weaker 1197 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: coverage player. It is impossible to defend quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes, 1198 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning, like Tom Brady, like Drew Brees, who 1199 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: study this game at a savant level to the point 1200 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: where you cannot accurately call defense against them to surprise them, 1201 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 1: because they are unsurprisable. So Vic Fango the reason why 1202 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 1: he's zero to eight as a defensive coordinator against Patrick 1203 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Mahomes is because Patrick Mahomes may spend as much time 1204 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 1: in front of the film as Vic Fangio, maybe more. 1205 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 2: Well, that's why he's got to come up with something 1206 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 2: kind to see in the film. 1207 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 1: It is got to figure it out. But you gotta 1208 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 1: do that without stressing your own defense, because if you 1209 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 1: have the intelligence on your defense to get what you 1210 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: just said done, Steven, you have two weeks to get 1211 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: that done, to get that installed in your defense. Something 1212 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: you've never run. Something little wrinkle, that's all you need. 1213 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 1: So you need a lot more than a little rakle. Okay, 1214 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 1: let's find out what's trending right now. 1215 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: Let's see if there's more breaking news like lebron is 1216 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 2: staying with the Lakers. 1217 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love it too. They gave credit to 1218 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 3: somebody who had. 1219 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: It first, right, you know, it's like, wow, know what 1220 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: that's the voice of Manzy Bonios. But as I know, my. 1221 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 6: Hero, You're welcome, You're my hero. 1222 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for the coffee, got you got us burritos again. 1223 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 6: Unbelievable, Oh my pleasure. Guys. Let's kick off Sunday in 1224 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 6: a good way. You know what I'm saying. 1225 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 7: So, Uh, Nico Harrison and Jason Kidd are holding a 1226 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 7: press conference right now as we speak because of this trade. 1227 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 6: I have a quick little SoundBite that I'm going to play. 1228 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 7: This is GM Nico Harrison asking about like this, this 1229 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 7: big trade. 1230 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 6: Can you guys hear it? Give me a second, Give 1231 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 6: you a second. It's just happening right now. 1232 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 1: Give me, yes, hold on, hold on. 1233 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 6: I got it, I got it. I know that Ian 1234 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 6: is pulling it right now. So it's literally happening as 1235 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 6: we speak. 1236 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 7: So I'm trying to huh, it's common No. 1237 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: You think this will work in the short term in 1238 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 1: the long term? Short, short term makes great sense. How 1239 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: do you see this working out well for the organization in. 1240 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:33,439 Speaker 2: The long term? 1241 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 8: I think the long term is the time frame. I 1242 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 8: think he fits our time frame. If you pair him 1243 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 8: with with Kyrie and the rest of the guys, he 1244 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 8: fits right along with our time frame to win now 1245 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 8: and win in the future. And and the future to 1246 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 8: me is three four years from now, in the future, 1247 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 8: ten years from now. I know, I don't think they 1248 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 8: probably bury me and Jay or we bear ourselves. 1249 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 6: Straight up says that ten years from now is not 1250 01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 6: what he's working. 1251 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound very bright. 1252 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 7: Oh you should see Jason Kidd's face when he says that. 1253 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd looks don't says that. No, I can't say, 1254 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,919 Speaker 1: they'll be burying me by that time. 1255 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 6: I'm like, ten years, what are you talking about? 1256 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 7: So kind of a little bit of what we were 1257 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 7: saying that it seems like they're thinking about right now immediately, 1258 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 7: but no, Jason Kidd. 1259 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 6: Is like, what are you talking about? 1260 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:23,479 Speaker 4: Bro? 1261 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 6: So it's happy right now. We'll get more soundbites as 1262 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 6: it continues. 1263 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 2: We had to say was, look, we're trying to win 1264 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 2: right now. Okay, we're trying to win right now. We 1265 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 2: can't be worried about the future. We're trying to figure 1266 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 2: out what we're gonna do right now. 1267 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 1: That's the answer. 1268 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 6: That's it, that's it. 1269 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 7: But instead he literally said, in ten years, I don't know, 1270 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 7: we're probably gonna Oh my goodness, you don't get it. 1271 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 6: You don't get it. 1272 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 7: And men's college hoop's going on still right now Ohio 1273 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 7: State and number eighteen Illinois, who's trying to make a 1274 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 7: little bit of a comeback. But Ohio State is up 1275 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 7: fifty five to fifty three with about eleven minutes to 1276 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 7: go in the game. In the NHL, the Sabers are 1277 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 7: on top of the Devil's three to one with four 1278 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 7: minutes to go in the second period, and the final 1279 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 7: round at the Pebble Beach pro am continues right now. 1280 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 7: Justin Rose, Rory McElroy, Shane Lowry are at the top 1281 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 7: of the leaderboard at sixteen underpar. 1282 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 6: Overall. 1283 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 7: Lucas Glover, Tom cam Cam Davis and Stepstraka, who started 1284 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 7: at the top this morning, are one shot back back 1285 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 7: to you guys. 1286 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 3: All right, thank you very much. 1287 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Mine. Yes, yeah, it is so bad. I'm watching some 1288 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 1: of the fallout from this Nico Harrison press conference. MONSI 1289 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: was just playing sound from Yes. I mean, first of all, 1290 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd looks he's wearing this Kangle hat. He's in 1291 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 1: there with the glasses on. In fact, while he's speaking, 1292 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,920 Speaker 1: Nico Harrison, GM of the Dallas Mavericks admitted Jay Kidd 1293 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 1: had no idea about the trade. He gives him the thumb, 1294 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: he like points over them and it's like in the 1295 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 1: cityot over here we. 1296 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 2: Wearing the hat. Let's hear more sound from this Mavericks. 1297 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 8: GM trades don't happen at the smallest level without stuff 1298 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 8: getting out, and Rob and I were able to have, 1299 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 8: you know, really intense conversations over the course of you know, 1300 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 8: three or four weeks that started out as a coffee 1301 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 8: that you know, it was more Hey would you ever? 1302 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 8: I don't know what I let me think of, you know, 1303 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 8: and then it built him on that and you know, 1304 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 8: we we kept it between us. We had to, we 1305 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 8: had to keep it tight. Jake Kid didn't know about it. 1306 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 8: But JK and I are aligned and we talk about 1307 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 8: archetypes and we talk about the culture that we want 1308 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 8: to create. So I know the type of players that 1309 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 8: that he likes without actually talking to them. Hey would 1310 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 8: you like? 1311 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 2: You know? 1312 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 8: So I know that, and JK coached them when they 1313 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 8: won the championship, So so I think when you're aligned 1314 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 8: with your coach like that, I know the type of 1315 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 8: players that he likes, and so I felt good about 1316 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 8: it making sense to where we're trying to go from. 1317 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm sorry. This guy is a complete buffoon. 1318 01:07:53,880 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 2: And look, you you have to believe again the magnitude 1319 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 2: of this trade and how little they got in return 1320 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 2: for a twenty five year old superstar had to come 1321 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 2: a mandate from ownership. You want to keep your job, 1322 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 2: Unload this guy. We're not going to give him the 1323 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 2: Supermax done. 1324 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 1: Figure it out, yep, and give give, give us, give 1325 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: us the best you can return. 1326 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 3: And and and and again. 1327 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 2: The one thing he did say that makes sense, at 1328 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 2: least in the short term, pairing Kyrie Irving with Anthony 1329 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 2: Davis looks good. I mean, that's you got a great 1330 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 2: point guard, a premier point guard, a premier big man, 1331 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,680 Speaker 2: and they still have years left, maybe one or two 1332 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 2: years where you could say, all right, put these two together, 1333 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 2: let's see what happens. But in the long term, just 1334 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 2: say it. We're not worried about the long term. We 1335 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 2: were thinking right now. Luke has'm play since Christmas Day. 1336 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 2: We're not one hundred percent satisfied that he's going to 1337 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 2: be in the condition necessary. 1338 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,719 Speaker 1: Maybe in the short term, whatever it is. You will 1339 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: never convince me, though, that this didn't start now again, publicly, 1340 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 1: we will never hear anybody admit this. But you will 1341 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: never convince me that this didn't start with either Lebron 1342 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 1: himself or somebody from Lebron's camp personally, reaching out to 1343 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 1: somebody affiliated closely with Luca's camp and making sure that 1344 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: this could even be consummated before Rob Polinka and Nico 1345 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 1: Harrison ever spoke to each other. Because the general manager 1346 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 1: of the Lakers in name only. By the way, Rob 1347 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: Polinka is not actually the general manager of the Lakers. 1348 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: He's not. Lebron James is the general manager of the Lakers. 1349 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,360 Speaker 1: The fact that the tweet even had to be put 1350 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,639 Speaker 1: out that Lebron was shocked and surprised by this, I mean, 1351 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 1: it is all just window dressing. 1352 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 2: Do you believe that Lebron James will be playing in 1353 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 2: the NBA next season. 1354 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: I think he will be. I think he will be 1355 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,560 Speaker 1: for his son. I think until Bronni James. 1356 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,719 Speaker 2: Ronnie James is never going to be an NBA play. 1357 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 2: You know that playing in the NBA and being an 1358 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,760 Speaker 2: NBA player in two different times. 1359 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I'm telling you he is trying to 1360 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 1: set his son up. 1361 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:12,639 Speaker 3: Well, you can do that without playing. 1362 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: It's possible, but it's a lot easier if you are 1363 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, because not as many people 1364 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 1: are indebted to you when you're out of the league 1365 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,679 Speaker 1: than when you're in the league. That is for sure, 1366 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 1: you have a lot more cache and a lot more 1367 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,840 Speaker 1: sway if he did. 1368 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 2: The impossible, He got a team to actually waste a 1369 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 2: draft pick on a kid that was second team All 1370 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,479 Speaker 2: league league and senior year in high school and yet 1371 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,559 Speaker 2: miraculously showed up on the McDonald's All American team. 1372 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 3: He was like the second or third best player in 1373 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 3: his high. 1374 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 2: School team, and he made McDonald's All American as a 1375 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 2: second team All league player. 1376 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,599 Speaker 1: And I skill, come hey bye, buddy. 1377 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,839 Speaker 2: He's already accomplished what no other player you could accomplish. 1378 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 3: He was able to railroad his kid into the NBA. 1379 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 1: And I don't think he's done. I don't think he's 1380 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 1: done because also we were just having this conversation at break, Steve, 1381 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 1: you know you you had mentioned yesterday on the air 1382 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 1: chatting with Monsey about how Lebron James has probably done 1383 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 1: a major disservice to his son by exposing him the 1384 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 1: way he has. You heard the MVP chance the other night. 1385 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 2: They're mocking him, They're mocking him, and then he was 1386 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,679 Speaker 2: laughing on the bench as the crowd was mocking his son. 1387 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,639 Speaker 1: I think he has unfinished business. I think he's going 1388 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,719 Speaker 1: to try to make this work. I don't think he's 1389 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 1: done yet. I think we see Lebron James on the 1390 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: court as a Laker next season. 1391 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 2: Okay, well, if he is, it's gonna be interesting to 1392 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 2: see how his game actually meshes with Luka Doncis, because 1393 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,639 Speaker 2: if you look at him statistically, they're the same guy. 1394 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 2: Luca is not a great shooter. His career is under 1395 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,720 Speaker 2: thirty five percent three point shooting, but he takes a 1396 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 2: lot of shots. 1397 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 1: He's a volume shooter. 1398 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 3: I mean he's a volume shooter. 1399 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 2: He handles the ball much like James Harden did back 1400 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 2: in his Rocket days. He basically just holds the ball. 1401 01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 2: He dribbles, Yeah, he holds hold count dribbles. I mean. 1402 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 1: Who got that job? 1403 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 2: And it was like had like fifty more tribbles than 1404 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 2: any other player. Like, that's the game that Doncis plays, 1405 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,439 Speaker 2: played played with the Mavericks. 1406 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 3: How's that going to work now? 1407 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,679 Speaker 2: Because he will not be able to play that game 1408 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,800 Speaker 2: that he has with the Mavericks with Lebron James on 1409 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 2: the court. 1410 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 1: Yep, it's impossible. It's just not going to happen. 1411 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 2: They play a very similar game. So I don't know 1412 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 2: how this is going to mesh between the two of them. 1413 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 2: What's interesting, obviously, is that you have the trade deadline 1414 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 2: on Thursday, and the Lakers still had plenty of trade 1415 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 2: capital right now to get what they need desperately, which 1416 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 2: is a big. 1417 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: They didn't give up anything to get Luca. 1418 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 2: I mean, they gave up a D But I meanma, 1419 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,640 Speaker 2: you've got these guys that were already supposedly potentially on 1420 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 2: the trend. By the way, they got to get a 1421 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 2: big Dalton connect who's been a pretty solid perimeter shooter 1422 01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 2: for them. 1423 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, I they they need a rim protector. They 1424 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 1: need somebody in the paint. Obviously, now that Ad is gone, 1425 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,600 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to spend the capital to 1426 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,719 Speaker 1: find that. And then the Lakers all of a sudden 1427 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: vault themselves to the tippy top of the conversation, just 1428 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 1: where they always want to be. It was part of 1429 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,280 Speaker 1: the reason why they signed Lebron James to a contract 1430 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,639 Speaker 1: in the first place. It's the reason why he wanted 1431 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 1: to be in LA. It's it's what the late doctor 1432 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,680 Speaker 1: Jerry Buss always said. He was like, I don't just 1433 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,839 Speaker 1: want a good basketball team, I want an entertaining product 1434 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: for the fans. Is there anything more entertaining than the 1435 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,759 Speaker 1: prospect of seeing Luca and Lebron James playing Los Angeles together? 1436 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 1: Not this NBA season. This is it. 1437 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 2: The story has you see all thes money going in 1438 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 2: on the lakers hip. Holy Only Everyone's like, oh, now 1439 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 2: Lakers are the team to beat, and I'm like, they 1440 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 2: have no defense. They literally have no UFC Luca ever 1441 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 2: play any defense. No, they have no defense, they have 1442 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 2: no rim protector. And yet everybody's like pouring money in 1443 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,639 Speaker 2: on the Lakers win the championship. 1444 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 3: All right, another shift into gears. 1445 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:05,759 Speaker 1: For just a moment. 1446 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 2: On the other side, Rich, I have, as you know, 1447 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,679 Speaker 2: big connection with Halls of Fame. 1448 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,719 Speaker 1: Yes, much to your disdain, Yes. 1449 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,679 Speaker 2: But I have found out with the big announcement coming 1450 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,599 Speaker 2: up on Thursday and the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 1451 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 1: Uh huh. I know who was eliminated. Wow, I'm gonna 1452 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 1: give you a name. 1453 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,360 Speaker 2: One hundred percent will not be part of the Pro 1454 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty five. 1455 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:31,760 Speaker 1: I have an inside. 1456 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 2: No one else has this, only I have it, and 1457 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm sharing it with you out there. 1458 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: This is Fox Football Sunday, Steve Harmon and Rich Armburger. 1459 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 3: Here Fox Football Sunday. 1460 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 2: We are live from the Tairaq dot Com studios. So 1461 01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,839 Speaker 2: part of the entire week leading up to the Super 1462 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,680 Speaker 2: Bowl is the NFL Honors. This is where you have 1463 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 2: all the season awards that will be announced a big 1464 01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,800 Speaker 2: ceremony on Thursday, and they will all so announced the 1465 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,519 Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty five. 1466 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,479 Speaker 2: So if you've been listening to me over those last 1467 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,720 Speaker 2: one hundred years, you know that I have a lot 1468 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 2: of interest in the Hall of Fame, and I'm partnered 1469 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 2: with someone that has total disdain for honors and Hall 1470 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 2: of Fame. 1471 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 3: So it's you talk about an odd couple, that's us. 1472 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 2: But anyway, I do like to share some information that 1473 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 2: I can share with you. So the actual class will 1474 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 2: be announced on Thursday. However, I have already through sources, 1475 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,639 Speaker 2: confirmed who will definitely not. 1476 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Be in the Class of twenty twenty five. 1477 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so from the fifteen, eight have been eliminated and 1478 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,760 Speaker 2: there's seven left, of which no more than five will 1479 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,000 Speaker 2: actually make the Hall of Fame class. So I'm not 1480 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 2: going to share any of those names, but I will 1481 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,799 Speaker 2: give you one name of someone that was one hundred 1482 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 2: percent eliminated from consideration. 1483 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 1: For the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of twenty 1484 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 1: twenty five. All right, let me hear it. 1485 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 2: And that person is Eli Manning. 1486 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,679 Speaker 1: That is so stupid. 1487 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 2: So Eli Manning was eliminated. He was cut and will 1488 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,000 Speaker 2: not be a first ballot Hall of Famer. So, Eli Manning, 1489 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point will get in the Hall 1490 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 2: of Fame. Although we got a lot of quarterbacks that 1491 01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,680 Speaker 2: are suddenly going to be up for got. You might 1492 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 2: have heard Tom Brady, Drew Brees, some of these guys 1493 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,560 Speaker 2: that have insane Hall of Fame credentials. 1494 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,519 Speaker 3: But Eli Manning will not. 1495 01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,679 Speaker 1: Be a member of the twenty twenty five Pro Football 1496 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Pass Tom Brady was beaten by two 1497 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in Super Bowls. Yeah, Nick Foles, who will not 1498 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. I do not think 1499 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 1: you will. But and then the other name is Eli Manning. 1500 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 1: And how many times did Eli beat Tom Brady? And 1501 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: those Super Bowl Eli beat him? Or Dad Giants defense 1502 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,599 Speaker 1: beat him? So he won two Super Bowls. Yes, he'd 1503 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 1: against the greatest quarterback of all time in the only 1504 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 1: two meetings that the Giants had with the Patriots. In 1505 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 1: those Super Bowls in that era, and Eli Manning is 1506 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 1: not in the NFL's or Pro Football's Hall of Fame. 1507 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,280 Speaker 2: Well, at some point he probably will be. But he 1508 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 2: had a career five hundred record. He never won any awards, 1509 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,280 Speaker 2: you know, none, never even got a single vote ever 1510 01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 2: for you know, all the first. 1511 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,519 Speaker 3: Team All Pro. And so this is when you talk 1512 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,720 Speaker 3: about Joe Montana. 1513 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 1: It's it's just so stupid. I mean, it's just so dumb. 1514 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So you think, if you think what quarterback's Johnny Andidas, 1515 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:41,719 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, Brett farv Uh, these are first ballot guys, 1516 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,559 Speaker 2: and you think that he should be included on that list. 1517 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Does it tarnish their reputation if Eli Manning is allowed 1518 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 1: in on a first ballot? 1519 01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 9: No? 1520 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Does it diminish the greatness of Johnny Unitis or his 1521 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 1: brother Peyton or any of the other predecessors who have 1522 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 1: made the Hall before him. No, it just it just 1523 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,599 Speaker 1: it's bizarre to me that he needs to wait. He's 1524 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,479 Speaker 1: obviously a Hall of Famer. I mean, expand the class 1525 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 1: to six included, I mean, why are we just limiting 1526 01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 1: it to time? 1527 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 3: I No, No, he didn't make the final seven. 1528 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 1: So no, he was. He was spanned the class to 1529 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,880 Speaker 1: eight that I don't I'll put it this way. It's 1530 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 1: just so. 1531 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,600 Speaker 2: He was the only stat that he ever led the 1532 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 2: league in. He actually led the league in this one 1533 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,919 Speaker 2: stat three times interception, the only. 1534 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 1: Stat he ever led the NFL in. 1535 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know does that screen first ballot 1536 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame? 1537 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 1: But okay, but let me get history. Let me write 1538 01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL without including or mentioning Eli 1539 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 1: Manning's name. 1540 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 2: Here here was his one lost record and by the way, 1541 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 2: his greatness in the postseason for two years it almost 1542 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 2: supersedes all of what he did in the regular season. 1543 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,720 Speaker 1: Those runs were miraculous. 1544 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:57,040 Speaker 2: So he had two phenomenal runs and four other postseason appearances. 1545 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 1: He was one and done. How did he perform in those? 1546 01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,720 Speaker 3: He played very well in those seasons and he was 1547 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:04,240 Speaker 3: a gamer. 1548 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 1: He got to the NFL's postseason, which is supposed to 1549 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 1: be the. 1550 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 2: Most Why is Jim Plunkett not in the Hall of Fame? 1551 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,599 Speaker 2: He won two Super Bowls and in both those games 1552 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,800 Speaker 2: his teams were also Underdoff. 1553 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 1: Put him in two. Okay, there you go. I mean, 1554 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 1: this is my point. Why are we making this so exposed. 1555 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,559 Speaker 2: Why are you singling out the quarterback, Eli Manning? There 1556 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 2: were other giants that were on both those teams. Put 1557 01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,640 Speaker 2: them okay, see you see this is this is the 1558 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 2: difference between me sensible and this guy. 1559 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,799 Speaker 1: Well, I don't say, I don't mean every single player, okay, okay, 1560 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:38,360 Speaker 1: but very least the kicker. 1561 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of kickers, Adam Vinatieria, I'm gonna 1562 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 2: tell you this didn't make the final seven. 1563 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:45,879 Speaker 1: Wow. 1564 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 2: He made the Final seven in his first day of eligibility, 1565 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 2: but Eli Manning did not. We have more coming up 1566 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,519 Speaker 2: on the Big Game here on Fox Football Sunday. It 1567 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,680 Speaker 2: has been a unpredictably crazy day in the world is 1568 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,760 Speaker 2: or but that's why we're here Fox Football Sunday broadcasting 1569 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,599 Speaker 2: live from the ti rag dot com studios. 1570 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 3: Tire rag dot com. 1571 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna get you there, and I'm att selection fast, 1572 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,679 Speaker 2: free shipping, free road has a protection over ten thousand 1573 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,719 Speaker 2: recommend it installers tire rag dot. 1574 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 1: Com the way tire buying should be. All right, So. 1575 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 2: This is uh, this is always an interesting week leading 1576 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 2: up to the big game. And I was mentioning earlier 1577 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 2: one of the reasons that I'm I'm very much believing 1578 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 2: that Eagles have more than a fighter's chance to win 1579 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl is having been there before, because if 1580 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:43,639 Speaker 2: you haven't as a player, or as a coach, assistant coach, 1581 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,800 Speaker 2: or anyone in an organization, if you've never had the 1582 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,559 Speaker 2: Super Bowl experience, it is unlike anything you will ever 1583 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 2: experience at any level of football. When you get into town, 1584 01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:00,960 Speaker 2: you arrive and immediately the entire world of media. And 1585 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 2: when I say world, I mean world and there's no 1586 01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 2: bigger event. I mean World Cup obviously is bigger, but 1587 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 2: that not only comes every four years, but the super 1588 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,759 Speaker 2: Bowl is right there. So you have the entire media 1589 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 2: world descending upon you, and the NFL basically demands that 1590 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 2: you partake. I remember the first Super Bowl I covered 1591 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 2: as a radio personality was Super Bowl twenty five between 1592 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 2: the Giants and the Bills. Bills are coming off a 1593 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,679 Speaker 2: smashing victory over the Raiders, and the Giants at upset 1594 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 2: without their starting quarterback. Phil Simms that Jeff hostetleric quarterback, 1595 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 2: had upset the forty nine ers, who, by the way, 1596 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 2: we're trying to repeat that year and so, but there 1597 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,040 Speaker 2: was this overwhelming like the Bills, I think were seven 1598 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,160 Speaker 2: point favorites, overwhelming favors. But instead of two weeks, they 1599 01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 2: only had one week and still had the same requirements. 1600 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 2: And Marv Levy, the Bills coach, said, no, I got 1601 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,719 Speaker 2: to get ready for a game, right and he got 1602 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 2: fine and everything else. 1603 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:03,559 Speaker 3: Well, they don't have to worry about that. 1604 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,920 Speaker 2: So you were part of a team, obviously getting ready 1605 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,679 Speaker 2: for a super Bowl. Let's talk a little bit about 1606 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 2: two teams again. Obviously the Chiefs believe not fifth super 1607 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 2: Bowl in the last six years, Eagle second super Bowl 1608 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,760 Speaker 2: in the last three years, ridiculous. What was it like 1609 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,599 Speaker 2: this past week in terms of preparation for the game? 1610 01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 2: Understanding that at least until maybe Thursday, they've got so 1611 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 2: many things required to do in terms of the media 1612 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,760 Speaker 2: that they just don't have time to really focus so 1613 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 2: much on game plan as opposed to that, How much 1614 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,200 Speaker 2: was done at home this week by both these teams? 1615 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 1: A lot? Actually a lot, you know, because when you 1616 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:48,280 Speaker 1: don't have a game to prepare for, you can practice 1617 01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,799 Speaker 1: about as hard as you want to. And I remember 1618 01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,839 Speaker 1: when I was in New England, this was the twenty 1619 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 1: eleven season, preparing for the twenty twelve Patriots Giant super 1620 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 1: Bowl in Indianapolis was the second meeting. This was the 1621 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,400 Speaker 1: Mario Manningham catch that Super Bowl win for the Giants, 1622 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,640 Speaker 1: But preparing for the game, I remember that week not 1623 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,960 Speaker 1: feeling all that different from a lot of other weeks 1624 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:18,479 Speaker 1: preparing for a game. However, however, I will say this, 1625 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,599 Speaker 1: there was an awareness when you're on the field, like 1626 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 1: an excitement in the pit of your belly. For me, 1627 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,040 Speaker 1: especially being this being my first trip to a Super Bowl. 1628 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 1: For many of the players who were on the team, 1629 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,400 Speaker 1: this was in certain cases their fourth trip to the 1630 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You know, like there was like this this 1631 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,040 Speaker 1: brewing excitement that was feeling like we were getting closer 1632 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 1: and closer to some sort of culmination because we knew 1633 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: our travel schedule, we knew when we were boarding the 1634 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 1: flights and heading out to Indianapolis, which was our super 1635 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:53,440 Speaker 1: Bowl site, and so you're getting you're getting ready basically 1636 01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,519 Speaker 1: to restart and get ready all over again whenever you 1637 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,240 Speaker 1: land in Indy, and so that's what it was. It 1638 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,400 Speaker 1: kind of felt like it kind of felt like a 1639 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,839 Speaker 1: normal bye week where you would be preparing for upcoming 1640 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,840 Speaker 1: opponents or an opponent. However, it was more exciting than that. 1641 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,240 Speaker 1: Because you knew waiting for you on the other end 1642 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,880 Speaker 1: was all the pomp and circumstance of a Super Bowl visit, 1643 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,240 Speaker 1: the media days, your family meeting you out there, and 1644 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,480 Speaker 1: your phone, I mean my phone as a backup offensive 1645 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,479 Speaker 1: lineman at the time of my career was I was 1646 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,920 Speaker 1: getting texts and calls and my phone was ringing off 1647 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,760 Speaker 1: the hook. So away from the field of play, it 1648 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,759 Speaker 1: felt different. But the week of at practice it felt 1649 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 1: like just another week. You know. 1650 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:43,120 Speaker 2: I was so excited for that Super Bowl in Indianapolis 1651 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 2: because obviously we did not meet until I came to 1652 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,519 Speaker 2: San Diego, and of course you end up retiring from 1653 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,200 Speaker 2: the Chargers and that began our odyssey together. But we 1654 01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,639 Speaker 2: were in the same room because I was in that 1655 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,360 Speaker 2: you know, media content, the media tent, because I was well, 1656 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 2: not the circus thing, the individual day, you know, where 1657 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,439 Speaker 2: you're sitting at an individual table. You take a bus 1658 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,559 Speaker 2: over there, and the one guy I wanted to see was. 1659 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:12,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. 1660 01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 2: Because because because Junior and I had a long history 1661 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 2: in San Diego, I used to m see his golf 1662 01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 2: tournament everything else. 1663 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 3: I was so excited for him that finally he was 1664 01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 3: going to win a Super. 1665 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,920 Speaker 2: Bowl, Like I'm literally talking to Junior and like, this 1666 01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,760 Speaker 2: is great that you're gonna and I'm sure I must 1667 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,080 Speaker 2: have walked right by your table. 1668 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how, you know. You know what's weird 1669 01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,040 Speaker 1: is my table was sparsely attended. 1670 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,000 Speaker 2: That I just did not understand that we were in 1671 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,920 Speaker 2: the same room together. It's but I mean, but again, 1672 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,640 Speaker 2: both these teams have been there obviously, Chiefs and this 1673 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 2: Eagles team have been there, so they they are going 1674 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,519 Speaker 2: to be well prepared for this week. Nothing's going to 1675 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,720 Speaker 2: throw them for a loop. One thing you do not 1676 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,599 Speaker 2: want to do during this week is say something that's 1677 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,120 Speaker 2: going to be bulletin board stuff. 1678 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,160 Speaker 1: See that. That was the tricky part because obviously I 1679 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,840 Speaker 1: was playing on a team with a lot of big personalities, 1680 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,920 Speaker 1: but it was the Patriot way, you know. So one 1681 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 1: thing that we would avoid, or I should say that 1682 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 1: Coach Belichick wanted us to avoid, and he did it 1683 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,400 Speaker 1: by like flying the room with examples, bad examples of 1684 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 1: guys who put their foot in their mouth in the past. 1685 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 1: And this is where the preparation in New England was 1686 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,560 Speaker 1: different from any other place I played. There were constant 1687 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,640 Speaker 1: examples that Belichick would make using something that hit the 1688 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,960 Speaker 1: news cycle either years ago or recently, or things that 1689 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,639 Speaker 1: he could bring as a teaching point from a media 1690 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,960 Speaker 1: standpoint to our squad meetings with him, and some of 1691 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,599 Speaker 1: those were marathon team meetings where we would be in there, 1692 01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,920 Speaker 1: sometimes only thirty minutes, sometimes an hour and a half, 1693 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,439 Speaker 1: and part of it was to coach us up on 1694 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,240 Speaker 1: how to handle the different interactions we were going to 1695 01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,800 Speaker 1: be having, the type of questions that we were going 1696 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 1: to be fielding and avoiding saying the thing that was 1697 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,400 Speaker 1: going to trip you up in the in the media cycle. 1698 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 1: Because he planed it this way. He was like, you know, 1699 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna go through it early this week, and he's like, 1700 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,280 Speaker 1: and then the media cycle repeats the end of this week, 1701 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,600 Speaker 1: and then it repeats over the weekend. He was like, 1702 01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 1: anything that stated over the weekend is going to come 1703 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,680 Speaker 1: up on Monday. There was like four or five, I 1704 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 1: forget separate media cycles that he was talking about, and 1705 01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,360 Speaker 1: if you get spun up in one of them, he 1706 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,960 Speaker 1: was like, it could ruin the party. 1707 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 2: So don't be that guy. Basically, and they're gonna bait you. Yeah, 1708 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 2: so they're gonna bait you. There's plenty of members of 1709 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,799 Speaker 2: the media know how to bait you and spin things 1710 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 2: and try to get you to say something that you 1711 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,719 Speaker 2: don't intend saying, so you have to be careful. 1712 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,160 Speaker 3: But you never had that problem with the Patriots. 1713 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:39,560 Speaker 1: Only me. 1714 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,559 Speaker 2: I covered almost all of those Patriots super bowls. Tom 1715 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,640 Speaker 2: Brady was boring, boring. 1716 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:50,760 Speaker 1: Boring, boring, boring, boring by design, by design, absolutely, so 1717 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:51,439 Speaker 1: they have a way. 1718 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,280 Speaker 2: But you know, this is Andy Reid sixth super Bowl 1719 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,760 Speaker 2: as a head coach, five with Kansas City one back 1720 01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 2: in his day with the Eagles, and Nick Sirianni's been 1721 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,160 Speaker 2: here before, so I think it's going to be a 1722 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,599 Speaker 2: very low key weeks. 1723 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,120 Speaker 1: I will see a coverage. I will say this though. 1724 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,760 Speaker 1: One thing that has changed the paradigm from a standpoint 1725 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 1: of media coverage, and we've all experienced this now. A 1726 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,599 Speaker 1: lot of people listen to, for example, Jason and Travis 1727 01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:23,120 Speaker 1: Kelsey's podcast, but players podcasting has changed the media landscape 1728 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,720 Speaker 1: for former players podcasting or having actual reputable shows on 1729 01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,800 Speaker 1: network television like Pat McAfee. You know he'll be on 1730 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 1: site at the Super Bowl. There's plenty of examples of 1731 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,599 Speaker 1: players who have made the leap either post career or 1732 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,479 Speaker 1: during their career, who will be on media row at 1733 01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:43,240 Speaker 1: the super Bowl site. And these are peers, these are friends. 1734 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,160 Speaker 1: It's easier to get tripped up to say the wrong 1735 01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 1: thing when you're more comfortable with somebody than when it's 1736 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 1: like some you know, reporter who is foreign from your culture, 1737 01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,760 Speaker 1: from your locker room. You haven't seen him. He's not 1738 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,559 Speaker 1: a beat writer, he's some national guy, or he's from 1739 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:05,120 Speaker 1: some low goal, you know, the Carolina Star Telegram coming 1740 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,080 Speaker 1: in and asking you a couple of questions about your teammates. 1741 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,519 Speaker 1: If they ask any question that's even potentially answered in 1742 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,000 Speaker 1: an inflammatory nature, you're not going to give them the goods. 1743 01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,720 Speaker 1: You're prepared for that. But when you're sitting on a 1744 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,360 Speaker 1: couch during a long form conversation with somebody for an 1745 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 1: hour plus, and it's a buddy of yours, somebody who 1746 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 1: maybe you played college football with, you know, maybe it's 1747 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,320 Speaker 1: somebody who you know through your your circles in the NFL, 1748 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,080 Speaker 1: you have a lot of friends in different locker rooms, 1749 01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,040 Speaker 1: and you're, you know, you're just trading stories, and then 1750 01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you get caught off guard answering 1751 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,639 Speaker 1: a question you really shouldn't answer. That's what I'm curious 1752 01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:43,439 Speaker 1: about over the next two weeks if any of the 1753 01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 1: players on the Chiefs or on the Eagles get caught 1754 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:47,320 Speaker 1: up in something like that. 1755 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 2: As someone that was a veteran from the very beginning, 1756 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 2: and I always kid my my buddy Chris mad Dog 1757 01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:58,880 Speaker 2: Russo that we essentially started radio row Super Bowl twenty 1758 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,720 Speaker 2: five in Tampa. Giants were there, so Mike and the 1759 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,840 Speaker 2: Mad Dog were there over their second year together. 1760 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,880 Speaker 1: And Sessa and Russo so they were there obviously to 1761 01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:08,719 Speaker 1: cover the Giants. 1762 01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,880 Speaker 2: And we had started six ninety on the West coast 1763 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 2: and they sent me and my producer, Chris Visser, just 1764 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 2: the two of us, to Tampa and we're like, well, 1765 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 2: where are you going to do the show? 1766 01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:19,719 Speaker 1: And so. 1767 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,000 Speaker 2: Visser says, well, I understand Mike and the Mad Dog. 1768 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,800 Speaker 2: Where are they going to be. They're going to be 1769 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,680 Speaker 2: at this hotel. They're gonna have a table there and 1770 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,000 Speaker 2: they're gonna have giant fans sort of sitting around. He says, 1771 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 2: all right, we'll set up a table right next to it. 1772 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,639 Speaker 2: So if they if they if they get somebody over, 1773 01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:38,400 Speaker 2: maybe we can. 1774 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:39,840 Speaker 3: You know, we're always. 1775 01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,280 Speaker 2: Overplaying who we were obviously in the beginning like we're 1776 01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,080 Speaker 2: la you know, we got everything. 1777 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,639 Speaker 1: We're just overplaying it anyway. So that's what we did. 1778 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,600 Speaker 1: So we set up a table. I do. 1779 01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:49,960 Speaker 3: I'll never get this. 1780 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,600 Speaker 2: So I'm sitting at this table by myself as producers 1781 01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,719 Speaker 2: running around trying to find anybody, you know, to come over. 1782 01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,680 Speaker 1: To talk to us at a hotel no less. And 1783 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:00,760 Speaker 1: there was this. 1784 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,080 Speaker 2: Giants fan who was sitting there listening to Mike and 1785 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,280 Speaker 2: the Mad Dog. And he walks toward my table, right, yeah, 1786 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,400 Speaker 2: And I got the headset on and everything the old 1787 01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 2: head snip and I'm talking right and the guy looks 1788 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,080 Speaker 2: at me, and I'm looking up at him. I don't 1789 01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,960 Speaker 2: say anything to him, and I had, you know, like 1790 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,040 Speaker 2: a pen and paper in front of me. He reaches across, 1791 01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,840 Speaker 2: grabs my pen and walked away. 1792 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:25,840 Speaker 1: It was on the air. 1793 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if I thought I worked there or 1794 01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,400 Speaker 2: you're like, dude, I'm actually doing a radio show here. 1795 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,680 Speaker 2: But to think about that, I remember the following year 1796 01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,000 Speaker 2: we are in Minneapolis. Now, I think there were five 1797 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,720 Speaker 2: stations there, right, and so when I think of that 1798 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 2: to where it is now, it's not even radio row anymore. 1799 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,240 Speaker 2: It's it's called media row because as you mentioned, it's 1800 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:51,680 Speaker 2: podcast a lot. There podcasts everywhere. But the you know, 1801 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,639 Speaker 2: the plethora of all these celebrities. They used to you know, parade. 1802 01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,679 Speaker 2: Those days are gone. Well they don't do that anymore. 1803 01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,360 Speaker 2: What's interesting extent that they used to. What's interesting is 1804 01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,840 Speaker 2: is it has become a little fractured. Yeah, like you know, 1805 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,760 Speaker 2: really it's a little bit of. 1806 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,400 Speaker 1: Inside baseball to discuss from a media standpoint with what happens. 1807 01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,439 Speaker 1: But I will I will say this from both the 1808 01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 1: player side of the Super Bowl, like being a part 1809 01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,360 Speaker 1: of a Super Bowl team and visiting a Super Bowl 1810 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:23,639 Speaker 1: site and being you know, shuttled around and visiting these 1811 01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,720 Speaker 1: various media events that we were required to be a 1812 01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,320 Speaker 1: part of, and then also being invited to things that 1813 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,080 Speaker 1: were you know, non Super Bowl sanctioned things that we 1814 01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,640 Speaker 1: could go out and do while we're on site. That 1815 01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,759 Speaker 1: was a very interesting slice of you know, of life 1816 01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 1: to see what it's like from that side of it. 1817 01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 1: But then, you know, kind of correspondingly, after my career 1818 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,160 Speaker 1: ended as a player and I began this broadcast journey, 1819 01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:52,760 Speaker 1: going to the same thing, you know, in Houston, in Minneapolis. 1820 01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,240 Speaker 2: Our time in La together, our time in lainably only 1821 01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:55,960 Speaker 2: three years ago. 1822 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,960 Speaker 1: Done, Sorry it does seem longer. But but covering the 1823 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,479 Speaker 1: Super Bowl in LA for from that standpoint, it is 1824 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 1: interesting to see the circus that that it is and 1825 01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:10,479 Speaker 1: that it's become because you don't realize how many people 1826 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,320 Speaker 1: are waiting for the story to break. Yeah, like the story, 1827 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 1: we don't know what it's gonna be. You don't know 1828 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,000 Speaker 1: who's gonna say the stupid thing or who's gonna give 1829 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,040 Speaker 1: you the little nugget that gets you know, gobbled up 1830 01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,080 Speaker 1: by every single person waiting. But when I tell you, 1831 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 1: there are literally thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people 1832 01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:35,400 Speaker 1: waiting to break the story it is. I mean, so 1833 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,280 Speaker 1: any crumb that gets dropped, it'll get chewed up on. 1834 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,519 Speaker 1: So that is the key point. That's what Andy Reid 1835 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,200 Speaker 1: is staying in front of his team in Kansas City. 1836 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,120 Speaker 1: That is what Nick Sirihanni is delivering in front of 1837 01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,599 Speaker 1: his team in Philadelphia this week. They're saying, listen, don't 1838 01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,760 Speaker 1: give him a crumb, don't give them a cent, don't 1839 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,200 Speaker 1: give them a whiff, because it's all they want. 1840 01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,000 Speaker 2: Every time I think about three years ago, so I 1841 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:03,680 Speaker 2: would have to live and pick up Rich who was 1842 01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,920 Speaker 2: staying at his in laws house in Westwood. 1843 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, at like four. 1844 01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:11,360 Speaker 2: O'clock in the morning, because they were doing the morning show, 1845 01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,360 Speaker 2: right and then right right, I'm better drive all the 1846 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,599 Speaker 2: way to downtown LA, so I would, I would roll by. 1847 01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:21,639 Speaker 1: I didn't want to honk obviously, just hoping that Rich 1848 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,200 Speaker 1: was up, you know, ready to go. 1849 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,920 Speaker 2: That was a process, all right, don't miss that, all right? 1850 01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:31,320 Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side. All right, Patrick mahomes 1851 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:36,960 Speaker 2: place in history if he wins a third consecutive Super Bowl. 1852 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,799 Speaker 1: Where exactly does that take. 1853 01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,360 Speaker 2: Him on the all time list? We'll tell you. This 1854 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:49,040 Speaker 2: is Fox Football Sunday, Steve Hartman and Rich Harmburger. Here 1855 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:53,320 Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday. We are live from the tire Raq 1856 01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:59,960 Speaker 2: dot Com studios. I was watching replay on the NFL 1857 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,679 Speaker 2: on Network of the Super Bowl fifty seven. 1858 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,880 Speaker 3: Hopefully this game will be as entertaining as that. 1859 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 2: Game was, as both quarterbacks played at a very high level. Obviously, 1860 01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,120 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts was really the big story of that Super Bowl, 1861 01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 2: outside of that one fatal mistake where he literally just 1862 01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:21,000 Speaker 2: drops the ball, like the ball just slips out of 1863 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,960 Speaker 2: his hand, bounces right into the arms of the Chiefs 1864 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,200 Speaker 2: guy and he runs for a touchdown. 1865 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,040 Speaker 3: That's the difference. Three point game. 1866 01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:27,360 Speaker 1: Yep. 1867 01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,720 Speaker 3: And this is again you're like, wow, it's rig for 1868 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:30,200 Speaker 3: the Chiefs. 1869 01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1870 01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he purposely dropped that ball. Okay, 1871 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,960 Speaker 2: that's my guess. But hopefully everyone will play at a 1872 01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 2: high level in this game, just like they did two 1873 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:44,120 Speaker 2: years ago. As far as Patrick Mahomes is concerned, if 1874 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,920 Speaker 2: he wins this Super Bowl and does what has never 1875 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,840 Speaker 2: been done before in the Super Bowl era, winning three 1876 01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,559 Speaker 2: consecutive championships. I mean, technically back in the day, bart 1877 01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,719 Speaker 2: Star won three in a row, but the first one 1878 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,559 Speaker 2: was before the Super Bowl, so he won the NFL 1879 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,960 Speaker 2: championship in nineteen sixty five. The Super Bowl came the 1880 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,920 Speaker 2: next year, and then he won the first two Super Bowls. 1881 01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,640 Speaker 1: So that's the last quarterback to win three straight NFL championships. 1882 01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,120 Speaker 2: But Richie, I know we've had a disagreement about this 1883 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:19,559 Speaker 2: when we talk about franchise quarterbacks because I can't put 1884 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:24,040 Speaker 2: any current quarterback in the company of Patrick Mahomes. 1885 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:25,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean, I mean. 1886 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:30,439 Speaker 2: It's not to say that Josh Allen's not a great quarterback. 1887 01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,200 Speaker 2: Of Lamar Jackson's not a great quarterback. Of Joe Burrow's 1888 01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 2: not a great court These are all great quarterbacks. But 1889 01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:41,320 Speaker 2: if you define Patrick Mahomes as a franchise quarterback, no 1890 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,800 Speaker 2: one else can be defined a franchise quarterback because his 1891 01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:48,680 Speaker 2: record is so far and away the best, certainly of 1892 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,800 Speaker 2: any current quarterback in the NFL, but as far as 1893 01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:56,479 Speaker 2: all time rankings, and again he hasn't played a full 1894 01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:01,559 Speaker 2: career yet, so we can't ultimately judge it his final 1895 01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,799 Speaker 2: until he actually ends his career. But I can safely 1896 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:09,080 Speaker 2: say this, if they win the championship for a thirk 1897 01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:16,559 Speaker 2: and secutive year, he stands alone as the quarterback. Through 1898 01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,000 Speaker 2: his first eight seasons in the NFL. Remember, his first 1899 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,880 Speaker 2: season was one game. He's been to the AFC Championship game. 1900 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,760 Speaker 2: Every single year he's been the starting quarterback. This is 1901 01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:32,639 Speaker 2: his fifth Super Bowl and he wins four, including three 1902 01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:39,360 Speaker 2: in a row. The number one, Number one, that's where 1903 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,440 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes would rank. 1904 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:45,559 Speaker 3: If they win this game on Sunday. 1905 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:49,919 Speaker 1: This is kind of all right, so we're defining things differently, 1906 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:55,640 Speaker 1: and that's okay. But the conversation around what a franchise 1907 01:37:55,720 --> 01:38:00,040 Speaker 1: quarterback is, in my opinion, is more akin to like. 1908 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:05,760 Speaker 1: So like rectangles can be squares, but not all rectangles 1909 01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,360 Speaker 1: are squares, you know what I mean? Like by rule, 1910 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,200 Speaker 1: a square is special. It's different because you know you 1911 01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:14,320 Speaker 1: have four right angles, all sides are equal, they're parallel, 1912 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,599 Speaker 1: just like a rectangle is. But it's a special type 1913 01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,200 Speaker 1: of rectangle. So if we're going to say a franchise 1914 01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:24,920 Speaker 1: quarterback has to be defined as such, Patrick Mahomes can 1915 01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:28,479 Speaker 1: be included in that definition. But he's a special kind 1916 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,320 Speaker 1: of franchise quarterback. He fits all the rules of a 1917 01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,400 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. He's just doing it better than everyone else. 1918 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,479 Speaker 1: So in order to prove that anybody is at the 1919 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:42,120 Speaker 1: level of a Patrick Mahomes is a ridiculous endeavor because 1920 01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:46,120 Speaker 1: you can't. He's different, he's special, he's in a category 1921 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,759 Speaker 1: unto itself. But to suggest that he's the only franchise 1922 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:53,240 Speaker 1: quarterback I think falls on deaf years with most people, Steve, 1923 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:59,080 Speaker 1: because I would guess most people's estimation a franchise quarterback 1924 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,519 Speaker 1: is the type of quarterback who you could build a 1925 01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,920 Speaker 1: franchise around, a special type of talent who you can 1926 01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:09,640 Speaker 1: see a future that includes multiple playoff visits, an opportunity 1927 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,280 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl or compete against the best 1928 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:16,240 Speaker 1: team or teams in the NFL. And so a franchise 1929 01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,880 Speaker 1: quarterback to me would be a Josh Allen, would be 1930 01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:23,439 Speaker 1: a Joe Burrow, would be a Justin Herbert, a Trevor 1931 01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:27,519 Speaker 1: Lawrence whose name has diminished in multiple capacities in that 1932 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 1: conversation due to injury and circumstance, but when he was 1933 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:36,120 Speaker 1: first drafted he was included amongst that conversation. Agellen hurts 1934 01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 1: even dare I say, because he's been to now two 1935 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl visits, he's done a lot of winning over 1936 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,479 Speaker 1: the course of his career. A quarterback who you can 1937 01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,519 Speaker 1: build a franchise around, in my opinion, is a franchise quarterback. 1938 01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:48,879 Speaker 1: And there's about a handful of them in the NFL 1939 01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,320 Speaker 1: that absolutely need to be in that discussion. And then 1940 01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:58,639 Speaker 1: there's probably about anywhere between three and five more who 1941 01:39:58,880 --> 01:39:59,919 Speaker 1: you can make arguments. 1942 01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,160 Speaker 2: But again, if you're gonna say, all right, here are 1943 01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,160 Speaker 2: the franchise quarterbacks, I mean, we're always talking about. 1944 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:07,679 Speaker 1: Jayde and Daniels. 1945 01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,200 Speaker 2: By the way, that was my one prediction that came true, 1946 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,560 Speaker 2: was my prediction of the Eagles blowing out the command. 1947 01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,559 Speaker 1: Yeah you did. I mean I predict that. I thought 1948 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:16,880 Speaker 1: it was going to be a close game, a high 1949 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:20,280 Speaker 1: scoring game, but I thought the Commander's had a chance. 1950 01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:21,840 Speaker 1: You did, not, you, Sae. 1951 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,920 Speaker 2: I maintained that was going to be a one sided game. 1952 01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:29,360 Speaker 2: And you know, and again, phenomenal rookie season. Jayde Daniels 1953 01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,760 Speaker 2: is going to get some nice hardwaars the offensive Rookie 1954 01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:33,200 Speaker 2: of the Year coming up on Thursday. 1955 01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,320 Speaker 3: Very exciting player. These are exciting. 1956 01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,760 Speaker 2: I love watching Lamar Jackson play Jayden Daniels. I like 1957 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,840 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, I love Joe Burrow. I love these quarterbacks. 1958 01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:46,759 Speaker 2: But again I can't put their names in the same 1959 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:51,360 Speaker 2: sentence with Patrick Mahomes. Again this stat that the Chiefs 1960 01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:57,240 Speaker 2: have won an NFL record seventeen consecutive games just decided 1961 01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,800 Speaker 2: by one score. So that was the last five games 1962 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,200 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, all eleven one score games in 1963 01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:06,719 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and now the AFC Championship. But seven 1964 01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,400 Speaker 2: and t get second of one scoring in what did 1965 01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:13,160 Speaker 2: the How do you do that? You have the quarterback, 1966 01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,439 Speaker 2: we only quarterback. We have that level. 1967 01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,720 Speaker 1: We have a small generational gap here where we have 1968 01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:24,519 Speaker 1: an apt example for comparison. Tom Brady during his generation, you, 1969 01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,440 Speaker 1: in your argument, would be the only franchise quarterback. 1970 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,760 Speaker 3: No, because he did lose at some point to. 1971 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:34,479 Speaker 1: Like Peyton Manning. 1972 01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,479 Speaker 2: Okay, who finally did breakthrough beat him and then won 1973 01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,479 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. But there's only other two quarterbacks right now. 1974 01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,000 Speaker 2: So you're saying the Russell Wills Tea, Matthew Stafford. 1975 01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it's about winning a championship. I get it, But 1976 01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,479 Speaker 1: the only franchise quarterback in the history of the NFL 1977 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,640 Speaker 1: is Patrick Mahomes. Then oh right now, okay, but but 1978 01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,800 Speaker 1: so that's my point. So there was a point where 1979 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:57,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady for two decades was appeared in what eleven 1980 01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 1: AFC Championship games. When he was with the New England Patriots, 1981 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:02,799 Speaker 1: he won six Super. 1982 01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,320 Speaker 2: Bowl There were other in the league, but there were 1983 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,040 Speaker 2: other quarterbacks that had won multiple Super Bowls. 1984 01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,360 Speaker 3: I mean Ben Roethlisberger won multiple Super Bowls. 1985 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 1: But Tom Brady was in nine. 1986 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,639 Speaker 2: He's not a franchise quarters had won a Super Bowl. 1987 01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,680 Speaker 2: Drew Brees had won a Super Bowl. Paid Manny had 1988 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,439 Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl. So the point was Eli Manny 1989 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,759 Speaker 2: had won a couple of Super Bowls a franchise quarterback. 1990 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:27,480 Speaker 2: How many quarterbacks currently have won Super Bowls? Matthew Stafford, 1991 01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:33,280 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, and Patrick Mahomes. I get these other quarterbacks 1992 01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:34,679 Speaker 2: have not won a Super Bowl. 1993 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,120 Speaker 1: I get the idea of the argument, but it does 1994 01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,479 Speaker 1: kind of fall on deaf years because if you're telling 1995 01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:41,600 Speaker 1: me you can't build a franchise around a guy like 1996 01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:43,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jacks Cam but if. 1997 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,760 Speaker 2: You want to win a Super Bowls and that the 1998 01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,000 Speaker 2: goal of every franchise. 1999 01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, but potential is the way we build teams. 2000 01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,639 Speaker 1: Potentially Patrick Mahomes could win. 2001 01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:53,880 Speaker 3: Do you think that Josh Allen is ever going to 2002 01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:54,679 Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl? 2003 01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:58,679 Speaker 1: Yes? I think potentially he could win a super Bowl potentially. Yeah. 2004 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,840 Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, the same way I 2005 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,800 Speaker 1: feel that potentially this could be Patrick mahomes last Super Bowl. Okay, 2006 01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,200 Speaker 1: lets likely, but potentially. 2007 01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:12,599 Speaker 2: Okay, because we're not we're not fortune teller, Steve, No, 2008 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,320 Speaker 2: let me ask well, I'm going to save a question 2009 01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,000 Speaker 2: for you on the other side, because first we know, 2010 01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:20,679 Speaker 2: we need to find out what is trending right now. 2011 01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,000 Speaker 2: And here's monci hi hi. 2012 01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:28,880 Speaker 10: I am watching this flag football game, which you know 2013 01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:34,160 Speaker 10: what's at least at least watching the the NFL Pro 2014 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:34,839 Speaker 10: Bowl games. 2015 01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:36,680 Speaker 6: At least I'm watching stars. 2016 01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, saying like at least no I am, 2017 01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,880 Speaker 7: because if I'm going to watch the NBA Slam Dunk contest. 2018 01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,960 Speaker 3: Here are many of them. Okay, So here's the deal. 2019 01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,720 Speaker 2: So the Pro Bowl rosters were announced, the original Pro 2020 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:54,040 Speaker 2: Bowl rosters. There were twenty five replacements, right, twenty five replacements. 2021 01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:55,679 Speaker 1: Drake may is in the Pro Bowl. 2022 01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:57,360 Speaker 6: Tyler Huntley is a Pro Bowler. 2023 01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyler Helen is a Pro Bowl. 2024 01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:04,000 Speaker 2: And so twenty five replacements for a flag football game? 2025 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:08,040 Speaker 2: Why why do you have to make any replacements? It's 2026 01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,680 Speaker 2: a flag for it's a really rough game. It's it's 2027 01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:11,800 Speaker 2: because you've watched it. 2028 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,880 Speaker 7: The ones that typically you know, decide to not do 2029 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,280 Speaker 7: that are are mad because of how their season ended 2030 01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,799 Speaker 7: up pruptly. But you know, you get to see Jamar Chase, 2031 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:21,280 Speaker 7: you get to see Joe Burrow. 2032 01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:22,000 Speaker 6: You're not wrong. 2033 01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,559 Speaker 2: Probably the Russell Wilson gets to add a Pro Bowl 2034 01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,120 Speaker 2: to his resume this year. 2035 01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,320 Speaker 6: I mean, you shouldn't count, right, It should be like, yeah. 2036 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,160 Speaker 2: See, that's the way I try to make my argument 2037 01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,880 Speaker 2: with my friends on the committee. You look at Pro Bowls, right, 2038 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,840 Speaker 2: like Eli Manning four time Pro Bowler. 2039 01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:39,599 Speaker 1: Not really. 2040 01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:42,360 Speaker 2: He was actually selected to two Pro Bowls and then 2041 01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,679 Speaker 2: got in as an alternate twice, which by the way, 2042 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:48,040 Speaker 2: means he finished no better than fourth in the voting 2043 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:58,599 Speaker 2: in his own conference. Yeah, I'm antsy Elon Manning, but no, 2044 01:44:58,680 --> 01:44:59,679 Speaker 2: I love Eli Manning. 2045 01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:00,120 Speaker 4: KNA here. 2046 01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,160 Speaker 2: I had a chance to share some time with Eli 2047 01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:06,599 Speaker 2: Manning one on one. He is exactly the person that 2048 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,839 Speaker 2: he appears on TV. Oh yeah, exactly. He's a great, 2049 01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,200 Speaker 2: great guy. I love Eli Manning on a personal level. 2050 01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm not wild about his resume in terms of being 2051 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,920 Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer, which, as I reported earlier. 2052 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:19,560 Speaker 3: Will not have. 2053 01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,280 Speaker 6: Will not have. 2054 01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:24,439 Speaker 1: I demand a recount. Yes, well, uh. 2055 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,519 Speaker 7: Speaking of Paro Bowl to NBA All Star Game, Chris 2056 01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,280 Speaker 7: Hanes tweeted that Chris Paul and Victor one Bam are 2057 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,960 Speaker 7: going to partner up and represent the Spurs in the 2058 01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,880 Speaker 7: Skills Challenge at the All Star weekend in San Francisco. 2059 01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,440 Speaker 6: So I'm happy to see some actual. 2060 01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,160 Speaker 3: Names having to Lebron and Bronni in the skills competition. 2061 01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,559 Speaker 6: Lebron Lebron has ruined the All Star game. Okay, he 2062 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,600 Speaker 6: doesn't do anything, He just participates in the game. He 2063 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:48,719 Speaker 6: should have done the slam down. 2064 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:52,320 Speaker 2: Contested against having him and his son. I think people 2065 01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,479 Speaker 2: would have been curious, was he how to They would 2066 01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:59,000 Speaker 2: have embarrassed himself, embarrassed Bronni what in terms of pairing 2067 01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:00,760 Speaker 2: up for this competition. 2068 01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:05,080 Speaker 1: I would assume that the news was broken to him 2069 01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:08,720 Speaker 1: over dinner that the NBA was hosting a skills competition, 2070 01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 1: and he's shocked and still processing the news. 2071 01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:12,439 Speaker 6: That's exactly what happened. 2072 01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,680 Speaker 7: It's exactly and that's how he found out about the 2073 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,960 Speaker 7: blockbuster trade at dinner, supposedly where Luka Dancic becomes a 2074 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,320 Speaker 7: Laker Anthony Davis becomes a Maverick. In case you've missed 2075 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,560 Speaker 7: some of the press conference today, here is Nico Harrison, 2076 01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,200 Speaker 7: MAVs GM talking a little bit about how he kept 2077 01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:31,479 Speaker 7: things close to the chest. 2078 01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:33,599 Speaker 8: We kept it between us. We had to, We had 2079 01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,639 Speaker 8: to keep it tight. Jay Kidd didn't know about it. 2080 01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,559 Speaker 8: But jk and I are aligned and we talk about 2081 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,960 Speaker 8: archetypes and we talk about the culture that we want 2082 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:45,000 Speaker 8: to create. So I know the type of players that 2083 01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:48,280 Speaker 8: that he likes without actually talking to him. Hey, would 2084 01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,639 Speaker 8: you like you know? So I know that, and JK 2085 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,599 Speaker 8: coached them when they won the championship, So I think 2086 01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,720 Speaker 8: when you're aligned with your coach like that, I know 2087 01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,280 Speaker 8: the type of players that he likes, and so I 2088 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:03,120 Speaker 8: felt good about it making sense to where we're trying 2089 01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:03,320 Speaker 8: to go. 2090 01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,120 Speaker 2: Man, it is the most That is absolutely the most 2091 01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,559 Speaker 2: ridiculous comment I've ever heard, especially with Jason Kids sitting 2092 01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:11,720 Speaker 2: there saying, Yeah, I didn't really have to talk to 2093 01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:13,639 Speaker 2: him because I sort of get him. 2094 01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know what he likes. 2095 01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Heim, he literally gave the thumb when he 2096 01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,160 Speaker 1: was referencing j Kidd. He's literally thumbing. I like, and 2097 01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:24,479 Speaker 1: then this idiot over here. I didn't tell him a 2098 01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 1: word about it. But he's cool. He's cool. 2099 01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:28,160 Speaker 6: Oh, let me tell you he's not cool. 2100 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:32,439 Speaker 7: You can see it as we described teething looks absolutely still, Yeah, 2101 01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:33,559 Speaker 7: poor Jason Kidd. 2102 01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:35,400 Speaker 6: One NBA game going on right now. 2103 01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,960 Speaker 7: The Bulls are beating the Pistons twenty nine to twenty five, 2104 01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,920 Speaker 7: late in the first quarter, about to start. The Mavericks 2105 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,280 Speaker 7: we're playing against the Cavaliers, so we'll see how they 2106 01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,840 Speaker 7: do today. In Men's college Hoops, number eighteen, Illinois came 2107 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,760 Speaker 7: back to defeed Ohio State eighty seven to seventy nine. 2108 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,519 Speaker 7: Right now number nineteen Memphis on top of Rice twenty 2109 01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:56,439 Speaker 7: four to sixteen. Halfway through the first half, and Rory 2110 01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,160 Speaker 7: McElroy is at the top of the leader board at 2111 01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:02,879 Speaker 7: the Pebble Beach Pro Am. He's sixteen under part overall, 2112 01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,160 Speaker 7: tied with Sepstraca. 2113 01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:05,680 Speaker 6: Back to you guys. 2114 01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:09,559 Speaker 2: Him on see thank you very very much. By the way, 2115 01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:13,040 Speaker 2: we got Sam here Iowa. Sam is in the house. 2116 01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:17,360 Speaker 2: He is addicted to women's collegiate basketball for obvious reasons 2117 01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:22,280 Speaker 2: after the amazing success of Caitlin Clark, and Iowa looks 2118 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:23,639 Speaker 2: like they may pull this thing off. 2119 01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,439 Speaker 1: They are still two minutes and forty seconds here. 2120 01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:29,120 Speaker 2: They have a nine point lead over fourth rank USC. 2121 01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,880 Speaker 2: Iowa was unranked this year. But this is a game 2122 01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:36,840 Speaker 2: after the game where they're gonna honor uh cal Gonner 2123 01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:40,240 Speaker 2: in her number, and David Letterman is there, you know, 2124 01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,479 Speaker 2: obviously a big Iowa guy, and so it's gonna be 2125 01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:45,360 Speaker 2: a big ceremony. But yeah, they got off to an 2126 01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:48,160 Speaker 2: incredible start in this game. Nineteen oh one s He 2127 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,320 Speaker 2: took the lead and then all of a sudden looking 2128 01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:52,040 Speaker 2: back Iowa. 2129 01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:53,679 Speaker 1: Well they're in pretty good shape right now. 2130 01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,120 Speaker 11: So yeah, I mean, well in twelve and a half 2131 01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 11: point dogs, I did not expect this. I did not 2132 01:48:58,040 --> 01:48:59,040 Speaker 11: expect them to be competable. 2133 01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:02,800 Speaker 2: I'm stay not paying to me about my undefeated number 2134 01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:04,719 Speaker 2: one rank UCLA bruins Man. 2135 01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:05,960 Speaker 1: Undefeated. 2136 01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,879 Speaker 11: I'm just one of everybody else who was just completely 2137 01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,720 Speaker 11: ignoring UCLA and how good they are. They're undefeated. They 2138 01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,720 Speaker 11: got Lauren Betts as their center. She just dominates, and 2139 01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:16,400 Speaker 11: so they're gonna win the national championship. 2140 01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:17,400 Speaker 1: Be like yawn. 2141 01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,880 Speaker 2: The last time UCLA won the Ladies Championship was nineteen 2142 01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:23,519 Speaker 2: seventy eight. My dear friend Ann Myers, and they are 2143 01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:26,719 Speaker 2: her voted. Billy Moore was the great Hall of Fame coach. 2144 01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,360 Speaker 11: UCLA needs the fans to show up like they are 2145 01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,719 Speaker 11: at Carver Hawky Arena today and it's a packed house 2146 01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:33,599 Speaker 11: and uclely deserves those those crowds. 2147 01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:35,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I agree with you on the out there. 2148 01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,120 Speaker 2: I'm not going to get it because life's a little 2149 01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:38,880 Speaker 2: different in Iowa. 2150 01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:39,679 Speaker 1: It is, Steve. 2151 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,120 Speaker 11: I went to my first game at poly Pavilion to 2152 01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:45,200 Speaker 11: take in Iowa, losing horribly to the UCLA. 2153 01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,400 Speaker 2: Men, and what did you think of did you pay 2154 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,160 Speaker 2: homage or the statue of John Wooden outside of Pauli. 2155 01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,120 Speaker 11: I loved my trip to Pauli. The game itself was 2156 01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,240 Speaker 11: wretched if you were an IO fan in attendance, but 2157 01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:57,639 Speaker 11: my first time there and it was it was great. 2158 01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:00,360 Speaker 1: I got free tickets and so meet you with feel 2159 01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:03,080 Speaker 1: the vibe of John Wooden. I could, I could could. 2160 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:07,240 Speaker 11: It was a poultrygeist, a floating above the air material. 2161 01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:08,320 Speaker 1: Is the wooden statue? Man out of him? 2162 01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:12,320 Speaker 2: The wooden statue made of rubber. No, it's not rubber. 2163 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:18,559 Speaker 2: Wouldn't rubber. It's a statue like everything wooden. But it's 2164 01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:22,040 Speaker 2: not a wooden statue. You said it's a wooden statue. 2165 01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:24,639 Speaker 2: It is confusing. It is a little confusing. I remember 2166 01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:27,040 Speaker 2: back in the days when Coach wouldn't he had he 2167 01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:29,880 Speaker 2: had a seat at games and he was there quite frequently, 2168 01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,519 Speaker 2: and he never said no to people like people obviously 2169 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:35,240 Speaker 2: would come up to you know, can I get an 2170 01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:36,559 Speaker 2: autograph Coach Wooden? 2171 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:36,920 Speaker 1: Blah blah. 2172 01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,559 Speaker 2: He was like in his nineties at this point, and 2173 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:41,559 Speaker 2: he was patient. There was like a little line and 2174 01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:42,639 Speaker 2: he would never say no. 2175 01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,240 Speaker 1: He was just why why did they never change the 2176 01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:48,080 Speaker 1: name of it. It's Polly Pavilion wins in a like, Uh, well, 2177 01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:50,040 Speaker 1: the Polly uh Wooden Arena. 2178 01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,439 Speaker 2: Polly was the one that paid for the original arena 2179 01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:54,120 Speaker 2: under that's why he got his name on it. But 2180 01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:57,439 Speaker 2: it's Wooden Court. By the way, it says guy named 2181 01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:01,519 Speaker 2: it's called Nell and Wooden Court. Noell, of course his 2182 01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,400 Speaker 2: late wife. So it's Nell and John Wooden Court. Same question, 2183 01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:08,960 Speaker 2: what's the Wooden Court made of? Yeah, exactly, I haven't 2184 01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:13,880 Speaker 2: lied to Okay, all right, this this whole quarterback thing 2185 01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:14,640 Speaker 2: is driving. 2186 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,400 Speaker 1: Me out, But that should be driving you nuts. It 2187 01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:17,960 Speaker 1: should be very clear to you. 2188 01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:22,360 Speaker 2: That, okay, your standards on how I define a franchise quarterback. 2189 01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:23,680 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question though. 2190 01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:25,960 Speaker 2: Sure, okay, So I imagine there are only two other 2191 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 2: active quarterbacks who have actually led their team to a 2192 01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:32,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl victory Russell Wilson, who, by the way, quick 2193 01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:36,360 Speaker 2: side note, do not expect Pete Carroll to sign Russell Wilson. 2194 01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,520 Speaker 1: They didn't have the best relationship. 2195 01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:41,920 Speaker 2: Believe me, that was kind of unceremonious. How that split. 2196 01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,840 Speaker 2: That's not happening. Russell Wilson is not going to be 2197 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,040 Speaker 2: a race. I think they're far more apt to sign 2198 01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:50,400 Speaker 2: Jameis Winston than they are Russell Wilson at quarterback. 2199 01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,280 Speaker 1: If they're going to go that direction, what about Flacco? 2200 01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,759 Speaker 2: He's the and that's not Flacco, but yeah, Russell Wilson, 2201 01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,560 Speaker 2: and obviously have Matthew Stafford, who, by the way, is 2202 01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:02,960 Speaker 2: another The Rams are hinting that they may not bring 2203 01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,160 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford back. He wants to play again, but he 2204 01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,640 Speaker 2: doesn't have any guaranteed money in his current deal in 2205 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, which obviously he would want it guaranteed. 2206 01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,840 Speaker 3: And the Rams are like, let me think about that. 2207 01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:18,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna think about that one. Yeah, all right, but 2208 01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:20,400 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2209 01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:24,439 Speaker 2: If Jalen Hurts wins this game, if Jalen Hurts becomes 2210 01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:29,559 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl winning quarterback, where does he stand with 2211 01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:33,000 Speaker 2: the Lamar Jacksons, the Josh Allens, the Joe Burrows. 2212 01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:34,519 Speaker 1: Does he go. 2213 01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:38,080 Speaker 2: Above those guys because he's now won a Super Bowl, 2214 01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:40,519 Speaker 2: been to two Super Bowls, played very well in that 2215 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,639 Speaker 2: first game. He's going to obviously have to play well 2216 01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:44,200 Speaker 2: in this game if they're going to stand a chance 2217 01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:48,559 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. Where exactly would he stand amongst current 2218 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,280 Speaker 2: quarterbacks In your opinion, he. 2219 01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:55,160 Speaker 1: Would be a top ten quarterback. Top ten, of course five. Well, 2220 01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:58,360 Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about the top five. Mahomes number 2221 01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:02,160 Speaker 1: one with a bullet, Okay, then you have Alan Lamar Burrow. 2222 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,760 Speaker 1: Those are the next three names, and then after that, 2223 01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean it would have to be either Hurts, Herbert Daniels. 2224 01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:17,439 Speaker 1: I'm talking about just talent. I'm just talking about Okay, 2225 01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,639 Speaker 1: now winning, I'm we want to talk about how. 2226 01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,120 Speaker 2: Cat Justin Herbert, who has played horrific football. He just 2227 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:27,960 Speaker 2: had a four interception game in a playoff horrific. He 2228 01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:30,599 Speaker 2: threw more interceptions in a playoff game than he did 2229 01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:31,559 Speaker 2: the entire year. 2230 01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:33,760 Speaker 1: Did we watch the game? I did watch. 2231 01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:40,800 Speaker 2: A one interception was not his fault, the pig six 2232 01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:42,000 Speaker 2: he overthrew, did he not? 2233 01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he had his toe stepped on by by 2234 01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:47,519 Speaker 1: his left tackle Rashawn Slater. 2235 01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:52,400 Speaker 2: Look telling me you would not put Jalen Hurts ahead 2236 01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:53,920 Speaker 2: of is Jalen Hurts. 2237 01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,840 Speaker 1: Some more talented quarterback than Justin Herbert. I don't know. 2238 01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:58,080 Speaker 2: He has a better resume, he has a better record, 2239 01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,760 Speaker 2: he has a better record, He's won more games. 2240 01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,840 Speaker 1: Just been the two Super Bowls? How is Herbert in 2241 01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:08,680 Speaker 1: the conversation Jalen Hurts a more talented quarterback than Justin 2242 01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:09,960 Speaker 1: Herbert if. 2243 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,360 Speaker 3: You were starting it, I mean like throwing a football. 2244 01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean throwing a football, I mean processing speed, I 2245 01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:18,599 Speaker 1: mean winning games with his ability. You're telling me, if 2246 01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:20,760 Speaker 1: you were starting a football team today and I gave 2247 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,559 Speaker 1: you the choice between starting it with Jalen Hurts or 2248 01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:25,960 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, you take Jalen Hurts over Justin Herbert. 2249 01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:29,679 Speaker 2: Herbert's stock is falling. I'm having a question. I would 2250 01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:31,559 Speaker 2: take Jalen Hurts. He's had a better career. 2251 01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,640 Speaker 1: I would not, I would not, I would take Justin. 2252 01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,840 Speaker 3: Know me, I've always been a Jalen I know you have. 2253 01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying this. I'm saying, since some Johnny come lately 2254 01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:43,560 Speaker 1: on Jalen, this isn't. This isn't to tear down Jalen Hurts. 2255 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's in the conversation in that next Okay, 2256 01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,560 Speaker 1: let me have a name. Let me ask you this. 2257 01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,440 Speaker 2: If you were to have this deal on the table, 2258 01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:54,560 Speaker 2: would you trade Jalen Hurts for. 2259 01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:55,960 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert in a heartbeat? 2260 01:54:56,200 --> 01:55:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a heartbeat, okay, Justin Herbert, then as the 2261 01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,240 Speaker 2: Eagles quarterback played like he has in the playoffs as 2262 01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:06,280 Speaker 2: a Charger quarterback, you'll be okay with you. 2263 01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,920 Speaker 5: Take the risk. Justin Herbert can make throws the Jalen 2264 01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:13,000 Speaker 5: Hurts can only dream of bingo and I I am 2265 01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:16,040 Speaker 5: a big Jalen Hurts proved me wrong with his performance 2266 01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:17,320 Speaker 5: on Sunday in the NFC Title Game. 2267 01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:20,240 Speaker 3: It also proved you wrong in the Super Bowl two 2268 01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:20,680 Speaker 3: years ago. 2269 01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,400 Speaker 5: Well, no, two years ago, I thought he was the 2270 01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,360 Speaker 5: best player on the field, and then ever since then 2271 01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:25,280 Speaker 5: he's been okay. 2272 01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:28,000 Speaker 2: But right now that they're playing big games against so 2273 01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:30,320 Speaker 2: if he wins the Super Bowl and he plays as 2274 01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,800 Speaker 2: well as he did two years ago, maybe even walks 2275 01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,120 Speaker 2: off with the Super Bowl MVP, you'd still make that. 2276 01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:39,440 Speaker 1: Trade, buddy, Buddy, Yeah, okay, I you. 2277 01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,120 Speaker 5: Know what I You imagine Justin Herbert with the talent 2278 01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:45,360 Speaker 5: that Jalen Hurts has around him, like AJ Brown divine 2279 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,240 Speaker 5: offensive line. That offensive line been. 2280 01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:50,440 Speaker 1: The biggest problem for Justin Herbert his entire career. Is 2281 01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:53,840 Speaker 1: his first round pick. They have first round picks all 2282 01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:57,080 Speaker 1: across that front line. Their offensive one has been so 2283 01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:00,360 Speaker 1: slater called I mean with injuries. 2284 01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,280 Speaker 3: And they haven't been playing. He had no center last week. 2285 01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah they were they that was one game that way, 2286 01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,520 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, and they put up fifty five points. Yeah, 2287 01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:12,040 Speaker 1: because they had a game with no center. 2288 01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,040 Speaker 5: Because watching game defense. 2289 01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:14,960 Speaker 1: I was about to say, they have a guy named 2290 01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,320 Speaker 1: Sakwa Barkley riff almost one hundred and fifty yards. 2291 01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,640 Speaker 2: Remember, as all you guys are literally singing about the 2292 01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:21,120 Speaker 2: Commanders like, oh, that's gonna. 2293 01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:22,680 Speaker 12: Be a tight Oh by the way, by the way, 2294 01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,400 Speaker 12: Jena Daniels also, I would take him over Jail and 2295 01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:27,560 Speaker 12: Hurts if we were having an open draft or a 2296 01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:32,320 Speaker 12: trade conversation. I'll tell you right now Eagles were like, hey, 2297 01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:33,680 Speaker 12: we're traded for Jada Daniels. 2298 01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,240 Speaker 1: I'd be like, you guys are genius. 2299 01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,440 Speaker 2: Well when when when Hurts is the NBA of the 2300 01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl and you're like, d you just want. 2301 01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:42,400 Speaker 5: To sight on the guy. At that point, I can't lose, 2302 01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:43,480 Speaker 5: So that's fine with me. 2303 01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:47,360 Speaker 2: All right, all right, continue, We got lots you can see, 2304 01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:48,120 Speaker 2: we're all worked up. 2305 01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:52,879 Speaker 1: We're game ready. That's why we're Fox Football Sunday. 2306 01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:59,840 Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Rich Rnberger Fox Football Sunday live from the 2307 01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:06,640 Speaker 2: IRAQ dot Com studios. You know, every football season comes 2308 01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,000 Speaker 2: to a close and it's just like. 2309 01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:12,240 Speaker 1: How did it happened so fast? I agree. 2310 01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:15,120 Speaker 2: I mean it's always like we're right, we're all sitting 2311 01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:18,680 Speaker 2: here for that first week of red zone radio, right yep. 2312 01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,560 Speaker 2: And you know there's mine say, I remember her first 2313 01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:25,040 Speaker 2: year of red zone radio. She's like that first half 2314 01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:27,880 Speaker 2: hour of the first day of red Zone Radio, she 2315 01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,840 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, this is this is way too much. 2316 01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:31,600 Speaker 1: It's not fair. 2317 01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,360 Speaker 3: But then, you know, like everything else, you slowed things 2318 01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,960 Speaker 3: down and it becomes you. 2319 01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:39,360 Speaker 1: Get into a routine, get into a like all of us. 2320 01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:40,920 Speaker 1: She was baptized in a fire. 2321 01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:43,840 Speaker 2: But I mean, it's just amazing year after year how 2322 01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:45,520 Speaker 2: quickly the football season goes. 2323 01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,600 Speaker 1: As quick as it comes, it leaves us. It just 2324 01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:52,000 Speaker 1: absolutely like a thief in the night, thief in the night. 2325 01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:53,240 Speaker 1: And then so. 2326 01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:59,640 Speaker 2: As we turn the page, uh to our focus on basketball. Okay, 2327 01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:02,200 Speaker 2: by the way, it's much easier for me to get 2328 01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,840 Speaker 2: into college basketball when my UCLA Bruins irrelevant, they've now won. 2329 01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:07,600 Speaker 1: Five in a row. They're actually on a heater. 2330 01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're going to there, They're going to be 2331 01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:11,760 Speaker 2: in the tournament. Now, just give me to the dam 2332 01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:14,080 Speaker 2: in the Big ten tournament. Well, they'll be in the Big. 2333 01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:16,800 Speaker 11: Ten tournament and they'll be that and this not always 2334 01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:18,840 Speaker 11: given these days, in the bottom three of the league, 2335 01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:19,480 Speaker 11: you will not make. 2336 01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:24,240 Speaker 1: It, which is amazing that they are now the Bruins 2337 01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:26,760 Speaker 1: historically part of the Big Ten. They are. 2338 01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,240 Speaker 3: I still haven't gotten used to that. It just seems weird, 2339 01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:29,440 Speaker 3: you know. 2340 01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Michigan State coming back and I'm like, when do 2341 01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:32,600 Speaker 2: we play Oregon? 2342 01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:34,960 Speaker 1: Oregon State watching and Washington State the back day. 2343 01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,440 Speaker 2: But this story that we obviously opened the show with 2344 01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,600 Speaker 2: and is going to be the biggest story for several days, 2345 01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:45,320 Speaker 2: especially now with some of the comments by the cham 2346 01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,440 Speaker 2: of the Mavericks, who just unreal. 2347 01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:52,960 Speaker 1: Honestly, if you missed the comments from Nico Harrison, the 2348 01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:55,000 Speaker 1: general manager of the Dallas matt. 2349 01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:57,120 Speaker 2: While sitting next to Jason Kidd, the coach of the Map, 2350 01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:57,879 Speaker 2: We'll play. 2351 01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:00,240 Speaker 1: All of them for you coming up here, because Steve, 2352 01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,760 Speaker 1: it is it is. It is absolutely bananas. What we 2353 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,680 Speaker 1: heard from a front office, a member of the front 2354 01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:10,600 Speaker 1: office with one of the thirty NBA teams actually uttered 2355 01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:11,600 Speaker 1: into a microphone. 2356 01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:17,160 Speaker 2: Well, the idea, the idea that he and Rob Polenka 2357 01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:24,400 Speaker 2: had been in conversation for weeks. Nobody these, not one person, 2358 01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:28,040 Speaker 2: not Lebron, not Jason Kidd. 2359 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:30,400 Speaker 1: Nobody in the world. 2360 01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:37,760 Speaker 2: Was privy of this conversation ongoing. In Harrison's words, weeks. Yeah, 2361 01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:41,280 Speaker 2: weeks between he and Rob Polinka, and we had to 2362 01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:45,800 Speaker 2: keep it, decide to keep it under wraps. How ridiculous 2363 01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:49,120 Speaker 2: is that comment? Well, we'll tell you on the other side, plus. 2364 01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:49,920 Speaker 1: More on the Big Game. 2365 01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:56,840 Speaker 3: This is Fox Football Sunday. 2366 01:59:54,760 --> 02:00:01,840 Speaker 1: One week away from the Big Game? Big Game? Do 2367 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,400 Speaker 1: we have to say big Game? No? I don't know 2368 02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,400 Speaker 1: how that works. No, No, No, as long as we're 2369 02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:10,680 Speaker 1: not using it as in an advertising capacity, we'll get 2370 02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:12,240 Speaker 1: call it super Bowl fifty nine. 2371 02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:14,880 Speaker 3: We will call it super Bowl fifty to fifty nine. 2372 02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty nine. 2373 02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:17,880 Speaker 3: I actually. 2374 02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:22,120 Speaker 2: I did not watch what we now call the first 2375 02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:26,480 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but I did watch what they now call 2376 02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:30,000 Speaker 2: the second Super Bowl, was then the AFL NFL Championship Game. 2377 02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:35,040 Speaker 2: The actual name Super Bowl did not happen until Super Bowl. 2378 02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Three, when the time Joe Namath full the upset kay R. 2379 02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:42,960 Speaker 2: Baltimore colts once again, we're broadcasting live from the tire 2380 02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:44,680 Speaker 2: Rag dot com Studios, tire rag dot com. 2381 02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:46,160 Speaker 3: We're gonna help get you there, and. 2382 02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm at selection fast ree shipping free road has a 2383 02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:52,720 Speaker 2: protection over ten thousand recommended installers. Tire rac dot com 2384 02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,240 Speaker 2: the way tire buying should. 2385 02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Be all right. 2386 02:00:55,800 --> 02:01:00,160 Speaker 2: So we obviously we our focus is football here with 2387 02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:02,720 Speaker 2: a big game coming up, and if you don't know, 2388 02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:07,640 Speaker 2: next Sunday, Super Bowl Sunday, we are actually going to 2389 02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:09,080 Speaker 2: have an extended show. 2390 02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:11,480 Speaker 3: We do this every year on Super Bowl Sunday. 2391 02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:15,160 Speaker 2: We will do five hours and basically get you ready 2392 02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:19,360 Speaker 2: all the way up until right before the pregame into kickoffs. 2393 02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:25,400 Speaker 2: So all the last second details, every possible breakdown of 2394 02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:27,920 Speaker 2: the game between the Chiefs and the Eagles, we will 2395 02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:31,680 Speaker 2: have it covered, last second information, anything you need to 2396 02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:35,760 Speaker 2: know because we know this. We know that people are 2397 02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:40,920 Speaker 2: making prop bets on Super Bowls. There's no event that 2398 02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:43,520 Speaker 2: has more bets laid on it than the Super Bowl 2399 02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:46,120 Speaker 2: year after year after year after year after year. I 2400 02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:49,280 Speaker 2: know you with your show, you're going to be doing that. 2401 02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:51,600 Speaker 2: But on our show, we're going to have all the 2402 02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:55,880 Speaker 2: latest prop bets and everything else. So next Sunday, absolutely 2403 02:01:55,960 --> 02:02:00,000 Speaker 2: be with us here on Fox Football Sunday. 2404 02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we will be your last voices leading up to 2405 02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:07,000 Speaker 1: the game. So if there's any and I mean any 2406 02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:09,960 Speaker 1: late breaking news will cover it. If there's any prop 2407 02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:11,960 Speaker 1: bets that you need to pay attention to. We have 2408 02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:14,200 Speaker 1: people on the ground, Oh my gosh, yeah, we have 2409 02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:16,120 Speaker 1: tons of people on the ground. So many people on 2410 02:02:16,160 --> 02:02:18,440 Speaker 1: the ground now, I mean they love the ground and 2411 02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:19,840 Speaker 1: they're there on it. 2412 02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:22,360 Speaker 3: So that'll be next Sunday, all right. 2413 02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:26,360 Speaker 2: In the meantime, as we woke up this morning, nobody 2414 02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:30,000 Speaker 2: was talking about football. No, no, the only story that 2415 02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:33,360 Speaker 2: anybody's been talking about, and rightfully so, because it was 2416 02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:38,120 Speaker 2: a history making trade. Never in the history of the 2417 02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:44,280 Speaker 2: NBA had two players coming off all NBA seasons had 2418 02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:48,000 Speaker 2: been traded for each other mid season the next year. 2419 02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:49,720 Speaker 1: It never happened before. 2420 02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:53,280 Speaker 2: But I have me yesterday as Luka Doncic and Anthony 2421 02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:57,160 Speaker 2: Davis exchange uniforms. But it wasn't so much the trade, 2422 02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:01,560 Speaker 2: which was shocking enough. It's all how what down, Like 2423 02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:05,480 Speaker 2: not a hint of any talk about any buzz that 2424 02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:09,680 Speaker 2: Luca doncs was on the trade block, that only Sham's 2425 02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:13,040 Speaker 2: knew about it, Like he's the only guy with the 2426 02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:16,760 Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of NBA insiders, only. 2427 02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:19,960 Speaker 6: One in the world world. 2428 02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:22,800 Speaker 1: Seem to have the insight on that deal. Yep. 2429 02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:26,440 Speaker 2: And that the only two people that actually knew anything 2430 02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:32,320 Speaker 2: was going on on the entire planet apparently were the 2431 02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:36,200 Speaker 2: gms of these teams. That's right, not the coaches, not 2432 02:03:36,320 --> 02:03:39,760 Speaker 2: the players. No nobody else in the. 2433 02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:42,120 Speaker 3: World knew except these two gms. 2434 02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Well, and you know what's fascinating, And the Lakers have 2435 02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:48,560 Speaker 1: released their first public commentary about this, and we could 2436 02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:50,640 Speaker 1: read that in a little bit. Here is we've only 2437 02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:54,560 Speaker 1: so far heard in person from one side of this. 2438 02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:59,600 Speaker 1: If you are going to believe, which if you're you're 2439 02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:03,600 Speaker 1: reading chapter and verse from the Gospel of Nico Harrison, 2440 02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:07,720 Speaker 1: if you're going to believe that only two people on 2441 02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,960 Speaker 1: planet Earth knew that there was a potentiality of Luka 2442 02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Doncic being traded to the Los Angeles Lakers for Anthony 2443 02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:20,520 Speaker 1: Davis in return. Well, here is one of the two 2444 02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:24,240 Speaker 1: voices who were the only two potentially privy to the 2445 02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:28,760 Speaker 1: earliest of these conversations, Nico Harrison, the general manager of 2446 02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:30,040 Speaker 1: your Dallas Mavericks. 2447 02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:34,520 Speaker 8: Trades don't happen at the smallest level without stuff getting out, 2448 02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:37,720 Speaker 8: and Rob and I were able to have, you know, 2449 02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:41,520 Speaker 8: really intense conversations over the course of you know, three 2450 02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:44,440 Speaker 8: or four weeks. That started out as a coffee that 2451 02:04:44,720 --> 02:04:47,040 Speaker 8: you know, it was more Hey, would you ever? 2452 02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:48,200 Speaker 7: I don't know? 2453 02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:49,440 Speaker 8: Would I let me think of? 2454 02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:49,800 Speaker 10: You know? 2455 02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:52,760 Speaker 8: And then it built up on that, and you know, 2456 02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:55,120 Speaker 8: we we kept it between us. We had to, we 2457 02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:58,320 Speaker 8: had to keep it tight. Jay Kidd didn't know about it. 2458 02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:00,920 Speaker 8: But Jake Kid and I are aligned and we talk 2459 02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:03,480 Speaker 8: about archetypes and we talk about the culture that we 2460 02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:05,919 Speaker 8: want to create. So I know the type of players 2461 02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:09,640 Speaker 8: that that he likes without actually talking to him. Hey 2462 02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:10,280 Speaker 8: would you like? 2463 02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:10,840 Speaker 2: You know? 2464 02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,160 Speaker 8: So I know that and JK coached them when they 2465 02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:15,960 Speaker 8: won a championship. So so I think when you're aligned 2466 02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:17,840 Speaker 8: with your coach like that, I know the type of 2467 02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:21,800 Speaker 8: players that he likes, and so I felt good about 2468 02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,000 Speaker 8: it making sense to where we're trying to go. 2469 02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:28,840 Speaker 2: My followuped him is, Okay, you you know the kind 2470 02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:30,480 Speaker 2: of players that your coach likes. 2471 02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:31,920 Speaker 3: Does that mean he didn't like Doncic? 2472 02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:39,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know who he likes, right, So you're 2473 02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,480 Speaker 2: sure that he likes Anthony Davis better than Luka Doncic, 2474 02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:46,680 Speaker 2: I mean that would be an obvious follow up because 2475 02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:49,720 Speaker 2: you just said I know who he likes. By the way, 2476 02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:54,720 Speaker 2: Headline USA Today, Jason Kidd looks absolutely baffled as Nico 2477 02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Harrison explained to Luka Doncic strait and that is if 2478 02:05:58,440 --> 02:06:04,760 Speaker 2: you see the visual, he's just like what happened here. 2479 02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:09,680 Speaker 1: So let's uh, let's hear more. Yes, and this is 2480 02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:15,320 Speaker 1: from Nico Harrison, the general manager of the Dallas Mavericks, 2481 02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:16,800 Speaker 1: explaining this trade further. 2482 02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:20,720 Speaker 11: Did you have any indication from him or his representation 2483 02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:25,040 Speaker 11: that he was going to opt out or not take 2484 02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:26,440 Speaker 11: the extension or anything like that. 2485 02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:29,879 Speaker 8: No, not at all, Not at all, nothing nothing verbally 2486 02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:31,880 Speaker 8: that would It would leave me to believe that. 2487 02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:35,839 Speaker 4: Why would the super messpees have pull decision on your end? 2488 02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:38,280 Speaker 8: Oh no, it's it's not a matter of it being 2489 02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:40,760 Speaker 8: a difficult decision. It's a matter of, you know, once 2490 02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:42,720 Speaker 8: you put that out there, they accept or they don't. 2491 02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:44,720 Speaker 8: And at that point you're, you know, you kind of 2492 02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:47,240 Speaker 8: have you're on the clock again. 2493 02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:50,600 Speaker 2: My father would why would you why were you doing 2494 02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:52,680 Speaker 2: this without telling your coach? 2495 02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:56,360 Speaker 3: Why why would you keep the head coach out of 2496 02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:56,920 Speaker 3: the loop? 2497 02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:01,040 Speaker 2: When you are trading away your twenty five, your old superstar, 2498 02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:03,320 Speaker 2: why would you not want him. 2499 02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:10,760 Speaker 1: To know? My question would be, are you certain? Are 2500 02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:15,440 Speaker 1: you certain that the only two people who knew that 2501 02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:19,640 Speaker 1: this trade could potentially happen were you and Rob Polinka? 2502 02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:23,680 Speaker 1: Or were there any other voices who helped the two 2503 02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:27,280 Speaker 1: of you get to the bottom of whether or not 2504 02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:29,360 Speaker 1: this was a good trade, whether or not this was 2505 02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:32,680 Speaker 1: the right trade. You're telling me it was just you 2506 02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:37,240 Speaker 1: and Rob, well two opinions. In arguably the biggest trade 2507 02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:41,400 Speaker 1: in NBA history. You're telling us that only this would 2508 02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:44,000 Speaker 1: be my follow up. You're telling us that only two 2509 02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:46,240 Speaker 1: people we're in on this conversation. 2510 02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:50,680 Speaker 2: Are you sure, Nico Well, think about where Nico Harrison 2511 02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:54,040 Speaker 2: has put Rob Polinka. So, now that Harrison has said 2512 02:07:54,080 --> 02:07:56,640 Speaker 2: we were the only two people involved, now Polenka's got 2513 02:07:56,640 --> 02:08:00,920 Speaker 2: to answer questions like so, according to Niko Harrison, you 2514 02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:03,680 Speaker 2: were the only two people involved. Why did you keep 2515 02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:07,000 Speaker 2: this from JJ Reddick, your head coach. Why did you 2516 02:08:07,120 --> 02:08:11,160 Speaker 2: keep this from Lebron James? Why did you decide to 2517 02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:15,560 Speaker 2: not tell anybody? Because that's what Nico Harrison said, is 2518 02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:19,080 Speaker 2: that you two did this with no one else knowledgeable 2519 02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:21,520 Speaker 2: and so Polenka is going to have to answer those 2520 02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,520 Speaker 2: questions based on the comments by Nico Harrison. 2521 02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:27,920 Speaker 13: Oh man, I'll tell you this is and by the way, 2522 02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:31,400 Speaker 13: if Polinka says, well, that's not exactly the way it 2523 02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:35,160 Speaker 13: went down, this is one of one of the like, okay, 2524 02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:36,400 Speaker 13: so here's the problem. 2525 02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:39,680 Speaker 1: This what I do believe that more people knew that 2526 02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:42,000 Speaker 1: this was going to happen. That's safe to say. There's 2527 02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:44,560 Speaker 1: no question in my mind that Luca was in on it. 2528 02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:46,560 Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind that Lebron was in 2529 02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:48,879 Speaker 1: on it. There's no doubt in my mind that Anthony 2530 02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:52,560 Speaker 1: Davis may have even heard inklings of it potentially but 2531 02:08:52,600 --> 02:08:57,240 Speaker 1: probably was guarded from it since his representation also represents 2532 02:08:57,320 --> 02:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Lebron James. And where does the loyalty lie. Don't know, 2533 02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:04,040 Speaker 1: maybe with Lebron James since Rich Paul is his lifetime friend. 2534 02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:06,839 Speaker 1: But okay, let's just say that it was a wider 2535 02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:10,160 Speaker 1: circle of people. This is the best you could come 2536 02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:13,280 Speaker 1: up with. If this really was weeks in the making. 2537 02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:16,800 Speaker 1: This is the best excuse as to why this was 2538 02:09:16,840 --> 02:09:21,880 Speaker 1: going This trade was consummated. This is going to go 2539 02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:25,040 Speaker 1: down for Dallas fans, as one of the biggest snow 2540 02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:29,240 Speaker 1: jobs that has ever occurred in the history of the league. 2541 02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:36,000 Speaker 1: They got waxed, they got dragged, they got jobbed. This 2542 02:09:36,320 --> 02:09:40,480 Speaker 1: is awful. Dallas fans are literally showing up to American 2543 02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:45,200 Speaker 1: Airlines Arena with a coffin and they're preaching about the 2544 02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:48,920 Speaker 1: death of the Dallas Mavericks. This is a funeral. It 2545 02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:52,680 Speaker 1: truly is okay, And hey Davis, to put this in terms, 2546 02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, for people who don't understand the gravity of this, 2547 02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:57,480 Speaker 1: maybe you're more of a football fan, maybe you're more 2548 02:09:57,480 --> 02:10:00,360 Speaker 1: of a baseball fan, but in food terms, because we 2549 02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,720 Speaker 1: all eat food, this would be like being offered a 2550 02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:05,760 Speaker 1: double double animal style with French fries in a shake. 2551 02:10:06,080 --> 02:10:08,920 Speaker 1: That's what the Lakers got. The Dallas Mavericks just got 2552 02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:11,320 Speaker 1: a bruised peach in two heads of romaine lettuce. 2553 02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:17,160 Speaker 2: Well, and as bo said earlier, the Nets got ten 2554 02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:21,360 Speaker 2: first round picks for a thirty four year old Kevin Durant, 2555 02:10:21,560 --> 02:10:26,040 Speaker 2: ten players and seconds, ten first round picks, and the 2556 02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:29,080 Speaker 2: Mavericks get one first round pick for a twenty five 2557 02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:30,120 Speaker 2: year old Lukadantik. 2558 02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:32,360 Speaker 5: Guys, if it makes the Mavericks feel any better, they're 2559 02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:34,640 Speaker 5: only losing by thirty five right now of the Caps. 2560 02:10:34,640 --> 02:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so. 2561 02:10:40,920 --> 02:10:43,000 Speaker 3: And again where is the commissioner? 2562 02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:44,440 Speaker 1: This is. 2563 02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:51,920 Speaker 2: It's in and in some respects it's great because it ensures, 2564 02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:57,280 Speaker 2: assuming Lukadantis can stay in shape, the future of the 2565 02:10:57,360 --> 02:11:01,760 Speaker 2: Lakers beyond Lebron James. That's that's the good news. But 2566 02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:04,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't answer the question about the future of the 2567 02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:07,520 Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks. And that is a legit question. And you 2568 02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:10,440 Speaker 2: mentioned with Addelson taking over as principal owner of the 2569 02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:14,000 Speaker 2: Mavericks from Mark Cuban with his ties to Las Vegas, 2570 02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:15,960 Speaker 2: what is going on right now? 2571 02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:19,080 Speaker 3: Commissioner, the commissioner. 2572 02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:23,080 Speaker 1: The commissioner is busy trying to shorten NBA games from 2573 02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:25,920 Speaker 1: twelve minute corners to ten minute corners. That's what he's 2574 02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:26,280 Speaker 1: busy with. 2575 02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:26,720 Speaker 4: Do you hear? 2576 02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:30,160 Speaker 1: Honestly, he's a busy eye, because that's true. That's two 2577 02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:32,320 Speaker 1: whole minutes you're trying to shave off of each quarter. 2578 02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:33,160 Speaker 1: That's great. 2579 02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:36,440 Speaker 2: Hard when when you're reaching for gimmicks and everything else. 2580 02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:41,360 Speaker 1: And okay, so we have from a reputable source and 2581 02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:43,480 Speaker 1: we should do this on the other side, Okay, I'll 2582 02:11:43,520 --> 02:11:46,400 Speaker 1: just say it. An NBA insider who says that he 2583 02:11:46,720 --> 02:11:48,800 Speaker 1: knows why this trade was consummating. 2584 02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:50,920 Speaker 3: All right, I want to hear that as we continue 2585 02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:51,480 Speaker 3: on this. 2586 02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:57,560 Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday, Steve, Steve Harbin, and rich Omberger 2587 02:11:57,640 --> 02:12:01,600 Speaker 2: Here Fox Football Sunday. We're live from the Tyraq dot 2588 02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:05,040 Speaker 2: Com studios. All right, So, in the midst of all 2589 02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:07,760 Speaker 2: of our Super Bowl coverage, yes, we're also talking about 2590 02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:11,440 Speaker 2: the story in sports, that unbelievable trade between the MAVs 2591 02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:15,160 Speaker 2: and the Lakers involving Anthony Davis and Luka Doncic. 2592 02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:16,200 Speaker 3: Nico Harrison. 2593 02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:20,120 Speaker 2: You heard from him, the general manager of the Mavericks, 2594 02:12:20,120 --> 02:12:25,520 Speaker 2: who said that literally weeks, for weeks, he and Rob 2595 02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:28,440 Speaker 2: Polink at the GM of the Lakers, had spoken in 2596 02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:32,600 Speaker 2: total privacy with nobody else on the planet aware of 2597 02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:35,520 Speaker 2: what they were talking about in terms of this blockbuster deal. 2598 02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:39,760 Speaker 2: As Jason Kidd, the coach of the Mavericks, sitting right 2599 02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:43,600 Speaker 2: next to him, looked absolutely as people said, baffled by 2600 02:12:43,640 --> 02:12:45,800 Speaker 2: what Nico Harrison was saying that yes, I couldn't. I 2601 02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:48,040 Speaker 2: didn't even tell him because well, I just know what 2602 02:12:48,080 --> 02:12:50,960 Speaker 2: he thinks. I know who he likes. I mean, he 2603 02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:53,080 Speaker 2: didn't like Luka Dante. I don't know what do you 2604 02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:55,960 Speaker 2: mean by that, But now you say rich you have 2605 02:12:56,600 --> 02:13:00,760 Speaker 2: somebody in me. Because this is now an under full investigation, 2606 02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:03,640 Speaker 2: how this deal went down well. 2607 02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:06,160 Speaker 1: And also why? I think that is going to be 2608 02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:09,920 Speaker 1: the question that's most often asked. Why did this happen? 2609 02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:14,600 Speaker 1: What was the reason that Luka Doncic was so unpalatable 2610 02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:18,200 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Mavericks to have within their building that 2611 02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:21,200 Speaker 1: they were going to ship off an all NBA twenty 2612 02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:25,120 Speaker 1: five year old for essentially peanuts. And then also on 2613 02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:28,320 Speaker 1: the Lakers side, what's going on with Ad? Why were 2614 02:13:28,440 --> 02:13:31,280 Speaker 1: the Lakers eager or Rob Polinka? I guess who is 2615 02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:34,760 Speaker 1: named as the only other co conspirator here in this 2616 02:13:34,880 --> 02:13:39,040 Speaker 1: trade so eager to ship off Ad? Well. NBA insider 2617 02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:42,000 Speaker 1: Bill Ryder with CBS Sports had some insights on how 2618 02:13:42,040 --> 02:13:43,600 Speaker 1: the Lakers got to this point. 2619 02:13:44,160 --> 02:13:47,800 Speaker 9: Last year, there was talk within the Lakers organization that 2620 02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:51,280 Speaker 9: Lebron James had grown a little frustrated with Anthony Davis. 2621 02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:53,520 Speaker 9: It wasn't that necessary Ad was going to be traded. 2622 02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:56,480 Speaker 9: We obviously didn't report it on CBS Sports. It was just, hey, 2623 02:13:56,480 --> 02:13:58,959 Speaker 9: there's something to keep an eye on. Lebron is frustrated 2624 02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:00,920 Speaker 9: with AD, and he doesn't think that it's working. 2625 02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:04,840 Speaker 2: Okay, but that was in the intent when they gave 2626 02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:07,400 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis' last contract extension. 2627 02:14:07,760 --> 02:14:10,000 Speaker 3: The idea of AD when he came. 2628 02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:13,480 Speaker 2: To the Lakers was, obviously, we want you to help 2629 02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:16,720 Speaker 2: Lebron win a championship. But he did immediately that first year, 2630 02:14:17,600 --> 02:14:20,600 Speaker 2: and then we will build the future around Anthony Davis 2631 02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:24,879 Speaker 2: once Lebron steps down. At the time, did the Lakers 2632 02:14:24,920 --> 02:14:27,400 Speaker 2: maybe think that Lebron would still be playing at this 2633 02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:30,720 Speaker 2: level at age forty in his twenty second year. Maybe not, 2634 02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:35,440 Speaker 2: but that's where we are right now. I'm more curious. Look, 2635 02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:38,960 Speaker 2: I want to hear from Lebron. Oh yeah, well you have. 2636 02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:44,280 Speaker 1: In fact, he quote tweeted this little clip from CBS Sports. 2637 02:14:44,760 --> 02:14:47,760 Speaker 1: It now hows close to thirty million views thanks to 2638 02:14:47,840 --> 02:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Lebron James. He wrote you f and lyar on his 2639 02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:56,320 Speaker 1: official Twitter account. It's the very top of his Twitter account. 2640 02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:58,920 Speaker 1: That was about, you know, ten fifteen hours ago whatever 2641 02:14:58,960 --> 02:15:01,960 Speaker 1: it is. Very shortly after this news broke of the trade, 2642 02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:05,040 Speaker 1: and Bill Ryder went on CBS Sports and said what 2643 02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:07,800 Speaker 1: he said as an NBA insider, that he has heard 2644 02:15:07,840 --> 02:15:11,960 Speaker 1: grumblings that Lebron is upset with Anthony Davis that he's 2645 02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:14,720 Speaker 1: tired of the act that he wanted to move on 2646 02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:18,520 Speaker 1: from Davis. So Lebron James is protecting his reputation here 2647 02:15:18,560 --> 02:15:21,680 Speaker 1: because he's being implicated he's one of the reasons for 2648 02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:22,200 Speaker 1: this trade. 2649 02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:24,880 Speaker 2: I understand why he's getting defensive about that, but at 2650 02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:27,600 Speaker 2: some point he's going to have to answer questions like, 2651 02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:33,000 Speaker 2: are you upset that this organization made this trade in 2652 02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:34,920 Speaker 2: the middle of a season? By the way, twenty eight 2653 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:37,880 Speaker 2: to nineteen very much in the conversation, right, It's not like, 2654 02:15:38,080 --> 02:15:38,520 Speaker 2: you know, some. 2655 02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:40,400 Speaker 3: Kind of year where you're thirteen and thirty. 2656 02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:43,240 Speaker 2: They're twenty eight to nineteen, comfortably now in the top 2657 02:15:43,320 --> 02:15:46,920 Speaker 2: six in the Western Conference, middle of the season, when 2658 02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:50,120 Speaker 2: everyone was openly talking about coming up to the tread 2659 02:15:50,160 --> 02:15:51,200 Speaker 2: line trade deadline. 2660 02:15:51,240 --> 02:15:52,320 Speaker 3: You know, we can we get the. 2661 02:15:52,600 --> 02:15:53,840 Speaker 1: Big guy out of Utah? 2662 02:15:53,840 --> 02:15:55,200 Speaker 2: You know, can we add a big you know, so 2663 02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:58,120 Speaker 2: that we can move ad into his natural four position 2664 02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:00,600 Speaker 2: instead of playing the five. Are you you upset at 2665 02:16:00,600 --> 02:16:04,280 Speaker 2: the organization now that you would at least Nico Harrison 2666 02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:07,160 Speaker 2: is saying, yeah, nobody knew about this. Are you upset 2667 02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:10,880 Speaker 2: that they would trade away Anthony Davis? Without you knowing 2668 02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:13,800 Speaker 2: about it. See, that's the way I want the question 2669 02:16:13,920 --> 02:16:17,800 Speaker 2: asked that way. Would I would frame the question this way, Steve. 2670 02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:21,680 Speaker 2: I would want somebody with the audacity to ask Lebron 2671 02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:26,000 Speaker 2: James this question this way. You're telling me, arguably the 2672 02:16:26,040 --> 02:16:31,800 Speaker 2: greatest player of all time playing in the biggest market 2673 02:16:31,880 --> 02:16:34,959 Speaker 2: or one of the biggest markets in all professional sports, 2674 02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:39,320 Speaker 2: wasn't made aware that the number two star on your 2675 02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:43,480 Speaker 2: roster is being traded away to to Dallas and that 2676 02:16:43,560 --> 02:16:47,320 Speaker 2: you guys are you guys were inheriting another All NBA player, 2677 02:16:47,920 --> 02:16:51,560 Speaker 2: Like you're telling me that nobody the Lakers did this 2678 02:16:51,680 --> 02:16:52,680 Speaker 2: over your head, Lebron. 2679 02:16:52,760 --> 02:16:55,760 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying, Hey, I mean, if. 2680 02:16:55,640 --> 02:16:59,080 Speaker 2: Rob Polanka made this deal without consulting with you or 2681 02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:01,920 Speaker 2: any of your pe I mean, or the organization. 2682 02:17:02,080 --> 02:17:04,080 Speaker 1: You're telling me the genie busts didn't know about the 2683 02:17:04,240 --> 02:17:08,600 Speaker 1: genie didn't know Rob didn't talk to you, nobody's Lebron 2684 02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:10,600 Speaker 1: two gms. 2685 02:17:10,720 --> 02:17:12,800 Speaker 2: In the dead of the shooting that you know what, 2686 02:17:13,720 --> 02:17:18,760 Speaker 2: and then making a deal without ownership, coaches, players. 2687 02:17:18,360 --> 02:17:21,000 Speaker 1: Anybody else knowing about it. I mean, ask him that 2688 02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:22,320 Speaker 1: question that way. 2689 02:17:22,280 --> 02:17:25,039 Speaker 2: Because that's what Nico Harrison said, because if he is. 2690 02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:29,119 Speaker 1: Responding to quote tweeting a knee jerk reaction on Twitter, 2691 02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:34,080 Speaker 1: quote tweeting Bill Riders saying that Lebron James and Anthony 2692 02:17:34,160 --> 02:17:36,520 Speaker 1: Davis had friction and that's the reason why Lebron was 2693 02:17:36,560 --> 02:17:39,720 Speaker 1: comfortable shipping him off to Dallas. If he's so sensitive 2694 02:17:39,760 --> 02:17:43,720 Speaker 1: that he's willing to quote tweet an NBA insider suggesting 2695 02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:45,760 Speaker 1: that he had something to do with this, do you 2696 02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:49,640 Speaker 1: really think his ego could withstand somebody saying that Rob 2697 02:17:49,680 --> 02:17:52,959 Speaker 1: Polinka big boyd you here? Is that what you're leading 2698 02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:56,160 Speaker 1: us to believe that you have so little control Lebron 2699 02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:59,760 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? You have so little roster control Lebron 2700 02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:03,119 Speaker 1: over the Lakers, even though you are arguably the greatest 2701 02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:08,439 Speaker 1: basketball player we've ever lived, whose best friend from childhood 2702 02:18:08,959 --> 02:18:13,520 Speaker 1: is the CEO of one of the biggest agencies in 2703 02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:16,640 Speaker 1: all of professional sports. You were one of the most 2704 02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:20,680 Speaker 1: well connected people on the planet, and you didn't know 2705 02:18:20,800 --> 02:18:24,680 Speaker 1: that Luca was coming to LA in trade for Anthony Davis. 2706 02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:27,360 Speaker 1: Is that really what you want us to believe? That's 2707 02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:29,960 Speaker 1: what you want me to write in ink on paper, 2708 02:18:30,440 --> 02:18:34,520 Speaker 1: that you, Lebron didn't know that you were completely left 2709 02:18:34,520 --> 02:18:38,320 Speaker 1: out of the circle of trust here, Lebron James. That's 2710 02:18:38,360 --> 02:18:42,680 Speaker 1: what you want us to believe. Okay, okay, if that 2711 02:18:42,920 --> 02:18:48,160 Speaker 1: much is happening unbeknownst to you, Lebron, I guess we 2712 02:18:48,480 --> 02:18:56,040 Speaker 1: just have to believe it, right, I guess again, that's 2713 02:18:56,280 --> 02:18:57,879 Speaker 1: what you want us to believe. 2714 02:18:58,640 --> 02:19:01,640 Speaker 2: I'm looking at on this much bigger scale. I'm just 2715 02:19:01,720 --> 02:19:08,200 Speaker 2: looking at the other twenty eight teams in the NBA, because, again, 2716 02:19:09,080 --> 02:19:13,800 Speaker 2: if Luka Doncic was on the market, if you're the Knicks, 2717 02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:18,080 Speaker 2: if you're any other team in the league, how were 2718 02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:23,160 Speaker 2: we not in on the idea? I mean, in other words, 2719 02:19:23,280 --> 02:19:27,000 Speaker 2: so now if we want to make a deal with 2720 02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:30,920 Speaker 2: another team and not include anybody else, we got the 2721 02:19:30,920 --> 02:19:36,400 Speaker 2: green light if we want to nobody if on an 2722 02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:40,320 Speaker 2: open market, imagine the whole that the Mavericks would have 2723 02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:41,280 Speaker 2: gotten for Luka Doncic. 2724 02:19:41,440 --> 02:19:42,080 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 2725 02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:44,480 Speaker 2: It's our twenty five year old coming up five straight 2726 02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:48,240 Speaker 2: years of being first team All NBA on an open market, 2727 02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:54,240 Speaker 2: saying that every team is any team who I mean again, 2728 02:19:54,360 --> 02:19:57,320 Speaker 2: you're talking ten to fifteen number one future picks. You're 2729 02:19:57,320 --> 02:20:00,160 Speaker 2: talking about frontline player again, Think of the whole all 2730 02:20:00,640 --> 02:20:03,320 Speaker 2: that when the when the when the Clippers had to 2731 02:20:03,320 --> 02:20:06,560 Speaker 2: get Paul George in order to sign Kawhi Leonard, that 2732 02:20:06,680 --> 02:20:07,760 Speaker 2: was the deal, right, you want me? 2733 02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:09,840 Speaker 3: You got to get Paul George. Look at the hall 2734 02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:10,720 Speaker 3: ok S got. 2735 02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:13,560 Speaker 2: It was out race seven first round plicks and Shay 2736 02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:17,560 Speaker 2: Gilgers Durant it was ten, ten first round picks. 2737 02:20:17,800 --> 02:20:20,720 Speaker 1: You're telling me on an open market, twenty five years old, 2738 02:20:20,840 --> 02:20:25,400 Speaker 1: prime of his career, all NBA Luka Doncic wouldn't have 2739 02:20:25,480 --> 02:20:26,880 Speaker 1: beat out Duran's deal. 2740 02:20:27,280 --> 02:20:29,760 Speaker 2: And why was the NBA so quick to approve this trade? 2741 02:20:30,959 --> 02:20:34,000 Speaker 2: Why wait a second? Really just like that? 2742 02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:36,840 Speaker 1: Okay, done? It doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. I 2743 02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:41,400 Speaker 1: mean it doesn't make sense. Okay again, even even if 2744 02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:45,360 Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks win a championship this upcoming season or 2745 02:20:45,400 --> 02:20:47,680 Speaker 1: this season, right you know, the twenty four to twenty 2746 02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:51,720 Speaker 1: five season, they hoist Selario Brian Trophy, it still doesn't 2747 02:20:51,720 --> 02:20:54,920 Speaker 1: make any sense. It still is a lopsided trade. 2748 02:20:55,080 --> 02:20:58,959 Speaker 5: Steve, actually have the reason why the trade was approved. 2749 02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:02,600 Speaker 5: It's because it fit within the salary cap and both 2750 02:21:02,600 --> 02:21:03,440 Speaker 5: teams agree to it. 2751 02:21:03,560 --> 02:21:07,480 Speaker 1: Again there again, open and shutcase. Thank you both, You're welcome. 2752 02:21:07,520 --> 02:21:11,680 Speaker 1: That's it and let me throw I'll tie the bow 2753 02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:14,920 Speaker 1: on the present, and Lebron didn't know about it. And 2754 02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:17,920 Speaker 1: Lebron didn't know about it. He was at a family 2755 02:21:17,959 --> 02:21:22,119 Speaker 1: dinner because Lebron James, when he's sitting down for pasta 2756 02:21:22,200 --> 02:21:27,840 Speaker 1: froud diavallo, he doesn't check Twitter. He's not answering text messages. 2757 02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:31,760 Speaker 1: James when he's sitting down for Crispy Calamari at the 2758 02:21:31,840 --> 02:21:37,760 Speaker 1: Lalive Garden, he's not. He's not communicating with Rob Pulika. 2759 02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Catch it up with the fan. 2760 02:21:39,640 --> 02:21:41,560 Speaker 5: They do that thing where you put your phone upside 2761 02:21:41,560 --> 02:21:43,720 Speaker 5: down that's on the table, and whoever picks up their 2762 02:21:43,720 --> 02:21:44,760 Speaker 5: phone first has to pay for it. 2763 02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:47,240 Speaker 1: They leave them in their Gucci bags at the store, 2764 02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:49,840 Speaker 1: by the way, not bringing them to the dinner table. 2765 02:21:49,879 --> 02:21:52,760 Speaker 14: That's where we break bread. This is the James gang. 2766 02:21:53,120 --> 02:21:57,160 Speaker 14: We sit down and when we have our mozzarella sticks, 2767 02:21:57,400 --> 02:21:59,920 Speaker 14: we will not be interfered with. Even if it is 2768 02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:04,600 Speaker 14: it's Nico Harrison, give me a break. I got a 2769 02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:06,000 Speaker 14: bridge to sell you too. 2770 02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:09,240 Speaker 1: If you want to believe that it's in Brooklyn, it's 2771 02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:11,080 Speaker 1: in good shape, by the way. 2772 02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:15,280 Speaker 2: Bill Ryder, who it now obviously has been called an 2773 02:22:15,320 --> 02:22:20,320 Speaker 2: EFN liar by Lebron James. I've known Bill a long time. 2774 02:22:20,480 --> 02:22:23,400 Speaker 2: Bill really cut his chops early in his career. He 2775 02:22:23,520 --> 02:22:26,520 Speaker 2: covered Lebron's entire rookies first year with the Miami Heat. 2776 02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:29,800 Speaker 2: So it's not like he doesn't know Lebron or vice versa. 2777 02:22:29,879 --> 02:22:35,160 Speaker 2: They know each other very well. So Bill Ryder, there 2778 02:22:35,320 --> 02:22:38,000 Speaker 2: there's a connection there that goes way back with him 2779 02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:40,800 Speaker 2: and Lebron. So there's not It's not like he would 2780 02:22:40,840 --> 02:22:43,920 Speaker 2: just make something up like that. He just would not 2781 02:22:44,160 --> 02:22:48,200 Speaker 2: do that when it pertains to Lebron James. And by 2782 02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:52,000 Speaker 2: the way, what did he All he reported was is 2783 02:22:52,040 --> 02:22:57,640 Speaker 2: that I'd heard some grumblings about some frustration about Lebron 2784 02:22:57,680 --> 02:22:58,039 Speaker 2: and AD. 2785 02:22:58,320 --> 02:23:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's out of line. 2786 02:23:00,760 --> 02:23:02,680 Speaker 5: You think Lebron told him to put that out there 2787 02:23:02,720 --> 02:23:04,560 Speaker 5: so he could call him a liar and get some. 2788 02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:07,400 Speaker 1: I have no idea. By the way, and Bill Ryder's 2789 02:23:07,440 --> 02:23:10,879 Speaker 1: not backing down. One hour ago, he doubled down, he 2790 02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:13,519 Speaker 1: said on hearing Lebron in the past, a little frustrated 2791 02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:16,120 Speaker 1: with AD. Been talking about this since at least twenty 2792 02:23:16,200 --> 02:23:19,920 Speaker 1: twenty three. It is like Bronni being drafted by the Lakers, 2793 02:23:20,040 --> 02:23:23,400 Speaker 1: Erredick hired as a head coach. Just another important piece 2794 02:23:23,440 --> 02:23:26,720 Speaker 1: of context to try and figure out what lebron knew 2795 02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:28,320 Speaker 1: or didn't about the trade. 2796 02:23:28,800 --> 02:23:30,680 Speaker 5: What a great name, by the way, Bill Ryder. 2797 02:23:30,520 --> 02:23:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a solid name. 2798 02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:33,640 Speaker 5: If he was Steve Talker in there. 2799 02:23:34,120 --> 02:23:37,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now 2800 02:23:37,680 --> 02:23:39,760 Speaker 2: as we welcome back Moncie. 2801 02:23:40,879 --> 02:23:44,760 Speaker 7: I have been looking at Luka Doncic's Instagram just to see, 2802 02:23:44,840 --> 02:23:47,200 Speaker 7: you know, if he posts something, because he still has 2803 02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:48,760 Speaker 7: his profile picture with. 2804 02:23:48,760 --> 02:23:51,600 Speaker 6: The MAVs jersey and he no action yet. 2805 02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:57,640 Speaker 7: Bleacher Report just tweeted that he texts the MAVs group 2806 02:23:58,280 --> 02:24:01,400 Speaker 7: text message that they have thanks for everything. 2807 02:24:02,160 --> 02:24:03,640 Speaker 6: Now, I don't know if I believe it, because I 2808 02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:04,959 Speaker 6: don't believe the internet anymore. 2809 02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:08,920 Speaker 7: Let me tell you guys what because yesterday during my 2810 02:24:08,959 --> 02:24:12,440 Speaker 7: show is Steve Hartman. I was at fan fest all 2811 02:24:12,480 --> 02:24:14,120 Speaker 7: day yesterday before I came in. 2812 02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:15,720 Speaker 6: I was exhausted when I. 2813 02:24:15,680 --> 02:24:17,640 Speaker 1: Got here, Dodgers Fanty. 2814 02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:20,440 Speaker 7: I was at Dodgers fan Fest all day and our 2815 02:24:20,480 --> 02:24:22,959 Speaker 7: producer Patrick is like, hey, you want to bring back 2816 02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:24,000 Speaker 7: Who's your daddy? 2817 02:24:24,040 --> 02:24:24,200 Speaker 12: Now? 2818 02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:28,120 Speaker 7: That the season to see and if you if you 2819 02:24:28,440 --> 02:24:30,200 Speaker 7: get to, if you get it right over him, you're 2820 02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:30,760 Speaker 7: his daddy. 2821 02:24:30,800 --> 02:24:34,119 Speaker 6: So who's your dad. It's typically he's the daddy. He's 2822 02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:37,640 Speaker 6: typically on my phone. 2823 02:24:37,800 --> 02:24:39,240 Speaker 7: Once he sent me that, I was so busy, and 2824 02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:42,160 Speaker 7: I was like, okay, Baseball, fastest player to reach two 2825 02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:42,720 Speaker 7: thousand hits? 2826 02:24:42,800 --> 02:24:45,800 Speaker 3: Your games to play to get to two thousand hits. 2827 02:24:45,840 --> 02:24:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, know all I. 2828 02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:49,720 Speaker 7: Searched was fastest player to reach two thousand hits, and 2829 02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:53,560 Speaker 7: I just did it right now, right, This new AI 2830 02:24:54,560 --> 02:24:58,800 Speaker 7: generated answer gave me an answer that was not exactly correct, 2831 02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:01,320 Speaker 7: and I did not have time to actually dive in 2832 02:25:01,440 --> 02:25:01,840 Speaker 7: and look. 2833 02:25:02,040 --> 02:25:04,160 Speaker 6: But the AI answer right here AI Overview. 2834 02:25:04,280 --> 02:25:06,320 Speaker 7: Josel Tuba of the Astros became the fastest player in 2835 02:25:06,360 --> 02:25:08,800 Speaker 7: Major League history to reach two thousand hits on August twenty, 2836 02:25:08,959 --> 02:25:12,160 Speaker 7: August nineteen, twenty twenty three, achieving the milestone in one thousand, 2837 02:25:12,200 --> 02:25:13,440 Speaker 7: six hundred and thirty one games. 2838 02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:17,240 Speaker 6: Literally I'm looking at it right now. No, that's not actually. 2839 02:25:17,080 --> 02:25:21,320 Speaker 2: Right right, So I guess immediately she said, well she 2840 02:25:21,400 --> 02:25:23,440 Speaker 2: has the top three and I said, well, one of 2841 02:25:23,440 --> 02:25:24,280 Speaker 2: them I know is Intro. 2842 02:25:24,440 --> 02:25:25,600 Speaker 3: She goes, no, he's not on the list. 2843 02:25:25,640 --> 02:25:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm like what and so, so, as it turns out, 2844 02:25:29,560 --> 02:25:32,480 Speaker 2: it wasn't the fastest in terms of games play to 2845 02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:34,880 Speaker 2: get to just two thousand hits at also two hundred 2846 02:25:34,920 --> 02:25:36,440 Speaker 2: home runs and two hundred stolen base. 2847 02:25:36,680 --> 02:25:39,480 Speaker 1: All of that was para Oh god, you didn't tell. 2848 02:25:39,280 --> 02:25:40,680 Speaker 6: Me, that's the line. 2849 02:25:40,440 --> 02:25:43,360 Speaker 7: I'm looking at it, and so my fault for not 2850 02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:44,960 Speaker 7: going further into it. 2851 02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:46,680 Speaker 6: But at that point I trusted the internet. 2852 02:25:46,920 --> 02:25:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, no, no, no, I I was throwing I 2853 02:25:49,160 --> 02:25:52,280 Speaker 2: guesses and like she's like no, no, and I'm like. 2854 02:25:52,280 --> 02:25:55,320 Speaker 7: What and so yeah, so I did not ask the 2855 02:25:55,360 --> 02:25:57,240 Speaker 7: proper question because the inner I'm looking. 2856 02:25:57,120 --> 02:25:58,840 Speaker 6: At it right now, I'm so frustrated. So I'm not. 2857 02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:00,000 Speaker 1: So you're not my daddy. 2858 02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:04,520 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not your daddy. Yeah, just plaint Patrick. 2859 02:26:04,879 --> 02:26:05,959 Speaker 6: Well that's also what. 2860 02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:07,920 Speaker 10: I mean. 2861 02:26:08,080 --> 02:26:10,039 Speaker 6: I agree that maybe he should have got but I 2862 02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:12,160 Speaker 6: literally cannot. I'm looking at this Internet right now, and 2863 02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:14,920 Speaker 6: so I'm so mad because literally that's what I searched. 2864 02:26:14,959 --> 02:26:18,360 Speaker 1: So anyway, I was daddy, but now I can't. 2865 02:26:18,520 --> 02:26:18,879 Speaker 5: You can't. 2866 02:26:18,879 --> 02:26:20,840 Speaker 6: You're still the daddy. You're still the daddy. But the 2867 02:26:20,840 --> 02:26:23,320 Speaker 6: point is, don't trust the Internet. That is the whole 2868 02:26:23,360 --> 02:26:24,200 Speaker 6: point in all of this. 2869 02:26:24,920 --> 02:26:25,920 Speaker 1: Trust the Internet. 2870 02:26:26,840 --> 02:26:30,560 Speaker 7: There are great videos of the protests happening at American 2871 02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:33,400 Speaker 7: Airlines Arena Stadium where the MAVs club. 2872 02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:35,120 Speaker 1: I thought you were about to say, I vis wearing 2873 02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:37,320 Speaker 1: my brain with don't trust the internet, but there are 2874 02:26:37,400 --> 02:26:41,440 Speaker 1: great videos of cats. 2875 02:26:41,560 --> 02:26:44,400 Speaker 7: But there's like a protest going on in Dallas and 2876 02:26:44,480 --> 02:26:47,160 Speaker 7: people somebody both sent me a video of these guys 2877 02:26:47,200 --> 02:26:51,800 Speaker 7: carrying a coffin, like dropping it off there on the steps. 2878 02:26:51,959 --> 02:26:56,600 Speaker 7: Fire Nico sell the team like, oh my god. 2879 02:26:56,600 --> 02:26:58,720 Speaker 1: Open revolt in Dallas right now. 2880 02:26:58,760 --> 02:27:02,480 Speaker 7: Absolutely, And the Cavaliers, who are currently playing the Mavericks 2881 02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:06,600 Speaker 7: are like crushing them. They're headed to halftime one minute 2882 02:27:06,600 --> 02:27:11,440 Speaker 7: to go. Cavaliers up eighty eight, god to forty six. 2883 02:27:13,720 --> 02:27:13,879 Speaker 1: Eight. 2884 02:27:14,080 --> 02:27:15,960 Speaker 7: Oh, you were headed to halftime just as you guys 2885 02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:18,000 Speaker 7: know this a whole nother half, all right. 2886 02:27:18,520 --> 02:27:20,800 Speaker 6: The Pistons are beating the Bulls seventy two sixty eight. 2887 02:27:20,840 --> 02:27:23,840 Speaker 7: Halfway through the third James Harden has seventeen points and 2888 02:27:23,879 --> 02:27:26,080 Speaker 7: the Clippers and Raptors are tied at sixty one. 2889 02:27:26,240 --> 02:27:28,640 Speaker 6: They're also headed to halftime as we speak. 2890 02:27:28,680 --> 02:27:31,680 Speaker 7: In men's college hoops number nineteen, Memphis on top of 2891 02:27:31,760 --> 02:27:34,280 Speaker 7: Rice sixty to fifty nine, ten minutes to go in 2892 02:27:34,360 --> 02:27:37,039 Speaker 7: the game, and Rory McElroy is sitting alone at the 2893 02:27:37,040 --> 02:27:39,240 Speaker 7: top of the leader board at the Pebble Beach Pro 2894 02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:43,120 Speaker 7: Am eighteen under part overall, Lucas Glover Shane Lowry are 2895 02:27:43,160 --> 02:27:44,080 Speaker 7: now two shots back. 2896 02:27:44,360 --> 02:27:46,800 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, goat to you guys. So, by the way, 2897 02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:48,920 Speaker 2: mine say, I'm looking at this. By the way, CALVS 2898 02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:51,680 Speaker 2: just scored again ninety one ninety one. 2899 02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:52,680 Speaker 1: Points of the first half. 2900 02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:57,560 Speaker 2: Okay, the first quarter score was fifty to nineteen. Yeah, 2901 02:27:57,640 --> 02:28:00,600 Speaker 2: that was the first quarter. Out score him forty one 2902 02:28:00,640 --> 02:28:02,080 Speaker 2: to twenty seven in the second quarter. 2903 02:28:02,760 --> 02:28:03,840 Speaker 6: Uh ninety one. 2904 02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:07,920 Speaker 2: Who is playing in this moment is not playing? He's 2905 02:28:07,959 --> 02:28:10,080 Speaker 2: not playing. Klay Thompson. 2906 02:28:10,240 --> 02:28:12,080 Speaker 5: Clay Thompson's a minus twenty two in this game. 2907 02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:14,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how about this. 2908 02:28:14,600 --> 02:28:17,560 Speaker 2: He's a minus twenty two and he's only played eleven minutes. 2909 02:28:17,680 --> 02:28:19,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that possible, Except. 2910 02:28:19,520 --> 02:28:22,040 Speaker 2: Then I look at exam who is played get this 2911 02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:25,360 Speaker 2: fourteen minutes and he's a minus thirty three. 2912 02:28:25,600 --> 02:28:26,320 Speaker 1: Oh my lord. 2913 02:28:26,480 --> 02:28:29,760 Speaker 2: Rosper is a minus thirty five and he's playing twenty minutes. 2914 02:28:30,240 --> 02:28:33,600 Speaker 5: I've never heard of that name. Olivier Maxon's Prosper. 2915 02:28:33,680 --> 02:28:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, Dallas should have canceled and said 2916 02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:36,959 Speaker 1: it's a snow deck. 2917 02:28:36,879 --> 02:28:37,760 Speaker 6: It is a snow deck. 2918 02:28:38,879 --> 02:28:40,840 Speaker 2: You want to hear on the flip side, Donovan Mitchell 2919 02:28:40,879 --> 02:28:44,280 Speaker 2: has played seventeen minutes. He's a plus forty five. Oh 2920 02:28:44,320 --> 02:28:47,800 Speaker 2: my god, in seventeen minutes. Like, okay, this is a 2921 02:28:47,920 --> 02:28:50,560 Speaker 2: nightmare for the NBA. In fact, I'm looking at another 2922 02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:55,720 Speaker 2: headline here that says, this confusion around the league is 2923 02:28:55,840 --> 02:29:00,520 Speaker 2: quite high after this trade, like what happen here? 2924 02:29:01,360 --> 02:29:04,080 Speaker 3: And at some point the commissioners. 2925 02:29:03,440 --> 02:29:06,240 Speaker 2: In hiding right now. Oh, there's no doubt he is 2926 02:29:06,280 --> 02:29:08,560 Speaker 2: an absolute hiding. But there there are a lot of 2927 02:29:08,600 --> 02:29:12,760 Speaker 2: people in the NBA that one answers on exactly what 2928 02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:13,920 Speaker 2: just happened. 2929 02:29:13,959 --> 02:29:16,000 Speaker 1: If you are how to dippen one of the other 2930 02:29:16,200 --> 02:29:20,560 Speaker 1: twenty eight owners not involved in this trade, you're probably, 2931 02:29:21,080 --> 02:29:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean on hold with the Commissioner's office. The league 2932 02:29:24,040 --> 02:29:26,920 Speaker 1: office is hold, and I mean because everybody else is 2933 02:29:26,959 --> 02:29:31,000 Speaker 1: calling too, and the question is, what the hell just happened? 2934 02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:34,800 Speaker 1: Like I need an answer because I thought that we 2935 02:29:34,800 --> 02:29:38,440 Speaker 1: were all competing with each other, right exactly, that this 2936 02:29:38,680 --> 02:29:41,720 Speaker 1: was a league where we all had an opportunity with 2937 02:29:41,879 --> 02:29:45,800 Speaker 1: the lottery draft. And you know, I listen, we really 2938 02:29:46,000 --> 02:29:49,320 Speaker 1: there's cap salaries in their salary, you know, all this stuff, right, 2939 02:29:49,320 --> 02:29:50,959 Speaker 1: we put in all these things to make this a 2940 02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:54,959 Speaker 1: competitive league with great parody. So could you explain to me? 2941 02:29:55,640 --> 02:29:58,240 Speaker 1: And yes, I'll wait on hold, but could you explain 2942 02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:03,680 Speaker 1: to me how the Lakers just got Luka Doncic and 2943 02:30:03,760 --> 02:30:09,000 Speaker 1: they traded old groceries to the Dallas Mavericks one first pick? 2944 02:30:09,360 --> 02:30:10,360 Speaker 4: What team? 2945 02:30:10,520 --> 02:30:13,400 Speaker 5: I'm so tired of the picks? Man, picks are great, 2946 02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:14,959 Speaker 5: but you have to do something with them eventually. 2947 02:30:15,560 --> 02:30:18,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like, but still they're they're they're valuable. 2948 02:30:18,840 --> 02:30:20,880 Speaker 5: So you think that you think that the Nets are 2949 02:30:20,920 --> 02:30:22,520 Speaker 5: going to use all those picks that they got for 2950 02:30:22,600 --> 02:30:25,280 Speaker 5: Katie eventually because there's not enough roster space for that. 2951 02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:28,840 Speaker 1: And they won't, but they will use them. What capital 2952 02:30:28,879 --> 02:30:30,120 Speaker 1: to trade for me? Maybe? 2953 02:30:30,160 --> 02:30:32,400 Speaker 5: I mean the thunder have had picks forever and they 2954 02:30:32,400 --> 02:30:35,840 Speaker 5: haven't traded for anybody of note, So let's talk about them. 2955 02:30:35,920 --> 02:30:37,680 Speaker 5: What player are they going to get that's better than 2956 02:30:37,680 --> 02:30:38,400 Speaker 5: Anthony Davis? 2957 02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Right now? I get where you're paying. 2958 02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:45,760 Speaker 5: Who is actually going to trade a player of Adis caliber? 2959 02:30:45,879 --> 02:30:48,440 Speaker 1: I get it, But I'm saying even with a d 2960 02:30:48,680 --> 02:30:52,400 Speaker 1: So say, like, let's say all things considered, the trade 2961 02:30:52,440 --> 02:30:54,959 Speaker 1: is the exact same in terms of the people involved, 2962 02:30:54,959 --> 02:30:58,360 Speaker 1: Mark Keith Morris, look at Dogs eighty. The whole thing 2963 02:30:58,440 --> 02:31:02,000 Speaker 1: is all the same. The Dallas Mavericks still should have 2964 02:31:02,040 --> 02:31:08,640 Speaker 1: gotten as. 2965 02:31:06,160 --> 02:31:08,119 Speaker 5: Harrison's a bad GM that didn't do his job. 2966 02:31:11,560 --> 02:31:14,879 Speaker 2: Harrison is a pun in this thing. We'll take this clear. 2967 02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:17,800 Speaker 2: Nico Harrison is not calling the shots. 2968 02:31:17,800 --> 02:31:19,480 Speaker 5: Did you guys hear about his Nike presentation? 2969 02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:20,480 Speaker 1: Was it good? 2970 02:31:20,760 --> 02:31:24,000 Speaker 5: Uh? Basically he admitted to being the sole reason that 2971 02:31:24,120 --> 02:31:27,080 Speaker 5: Nike didn't sign Steph Curry nice because he called him 2972 02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:30,240 Speaker 5: Seth And the presentation was clearly meant for Kevin Durant 2973 02:31:30,240 --> 02:31:32,160 Speaker 5: Oh no, and they wouldn't give him a He wouldn't 2974 02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:34,360 Speaker 5: give him a signature shoe. Nico Harrison was in charge 2975 02:31:34,400 --> 02:31:34,560 Speaker 5: of that. 2976 02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:37,280 Speaker 3: So all right, guys, don't forget after the show. 2977 02:31:37,320 --> 02:31:38,440 Speaker 1: Our podcast is going up. 2978 02:31:38,440 --> 02:31:40,240 Speaker 3: So have you missed any of today's show. 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I want to 2989 02:32:10,120 --> 02:32:13,600 Speaker 2: hank our crew today. She can always be my daddy. 2990 02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:19,040 Speaker 2: I will trade regarding Oh that's uh well, now we 2991 02:32:19,400 --> 02:32:21,720 Speaker 2: sort of caught her in a private conversation there. 2992 02:32:22,040 --> 02:32:23,960 Speaker 1: That would be Monsey Belania's. 2993 02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:28,160 Speaker 3: Sam, who's here and wanted to hear what. 2994 02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:33,400 Speaker 2: I wasn't talking to her. I was just acknowledging her Sam. 2995 02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:36,000 Speaker 2: Sam has apparently forgotten. Sam has run the board for 2996 02:32:36,440 --> 02:32:38,720 Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of shows of mine over the years, 2997 02:32:38,760 --> 02:32:41,960 Speaker 2: but it's been a while, and so he is now 2998 02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:42,760 Speaker 2: he's really. 2999 02:32:42,560 --> 02:32:46,800 Speaker 1: Excited about that. Iowa, He's delirious. Did you watch you have? 3000 02:32:46,879 --> 02:32:50,320 Speaker 2: They had the postgame ceremony to give Caitlin Clark a 3001 02:32:50,440 --> 02:32:51,280 Speaker 2: retired Jersey. 3002 02:32:51,320 --> 02:32:51,879 Speaker 1: Did they do that? 3003 02:32:52,320 --> 02:32:54,760 Speaker 11: They didn't televise it, but it was immediately after there. 3004 02:32:56,760 --> 02:32:58,959 Speaker 3: I even watched that game. I don't know it was. 3005 02:32:59,080 --> 02:32:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 3006 02:32:59,440 --> 02:33:02,640 Speaker 11: They went to something else, but I am distracted and 3007 02:33:02,800 --> 02:33:06,080 Speaker 11: overstimulated from that win and not the Luca News. 3008 02:33:06,280 --> 02:33:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well, I'm sort of with you on that one. 3009 02:33:08,680 --> 02:33:11,520 Speaker 2: But at least now because it's not so much the trade, 3010 02:33:11,520 --> 02:33:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm more curious about the process and everything else on 3011 02:33:14,360 --> 02:33:14,840 Speaker 2: the process. 3012 02:33:14,879 --> 02:33:16,840 Speaker 3: But again, if you are to trust that process, if 3013 02:33:16,840 --> 02:33:17,199 Speaker 3: you are. 3014 02:33:17,120 --> 02:33:20,959 Speaker 2: To broadcast a game in which Kaylen Clark, who's the 3015 02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:24,640 Speaker 2: only woman that anyone really wants to watch on TV, 3016 02:33:25,440 --> 02:33:27,640 Speaker 2: and the idea is she's going to be honored after 3017 02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:30,520 Speaker 2: the game is producing that game, wouldn't you think that 3018 02:33:30,520 --> 02:33:33,320 Speaker 2: that would be wise to carry that part of it, 3019 02:33:33,400 --> 02:33:34,640 Speaker 2: even if it's after the game. 3020 02:33:34,760 --> 02:33:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 3021 02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:38,039 Speaker 11: Probably, Yeah, they could. I mean they went to something else, 3022 02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:38,440 Speaker 11: I don't know. 3023 02:33:38,640 --> 02:33:41,520 Speaker 2: No disrespect to the USC women, a top five school 3024 02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:44,080 Speaker 2: in the country getting upset by Iowa doesn't really do 3025 02:33:44,120 --> 02:33:46,440 Speaker 2: a service to the Iowa women as well, But why 3026 02:33:46,440 --> 02:33:48,560 Speaker 2: would you not show that that was sort of the 3027 02:33:49,120 --> 02:33:50,760 Speaker 2: idea of that game, even being. 3028 02:33:50,879 --> 02:33:53,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, I was surprised that I didn't get to watch 3029 02:33:53,160 --> 02:33:54,680 Speaker 11: that a little bit, but they did. They did interview 3030 02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:56,400 Speaker 11: her during the game a bunch, so she got on 3031 02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:59,360 Speaker 11: the TV quite a bit. Clearly her presence there helped 3032 02:33:59,480 --> 02:34:00,000 Speaker 11: fuel this up. 3033 02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:03,280 Speaker 2: And then there's Bo, who, uh you know, Bo is 3034 02:34:03,320 --> 02:34:07,280 Speaker 2: a diehard Laker fan. He's wording Laker geared today, and look, 3035 02:34:07,760 --> 02:34:10,240 Speaker 2: we said the same thing about the Dodgers, another one 3036 02:34:10,280 --> 02:34:13,720 Speaker 2: of Bo's allegiances where the whole world is complaining about 3037 02:34:13,800 --> 02:34:17,000 Speaker 2: how the Dodgers is spending money and those like nuh, 3038 02:34:17,160 --> 02:34:17,800 Speaker 2: tough on you. 3039 02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I really don't give a. 3040 02:34:19,920 --> 02:34:24,200 Speaker 2: Rats ass about how you care about my team spending money, 3041 02:34:24,800 --> 02:34:25,760 Speaker 2: and the same thing with Laker. 3042 02:34:25,840 --> 02:34:27,600 Speaker 3: I don't care how this deal went down. 3043 02:34:27,640 --> 02:34:29,760 Speaker 2: All I know is we just got a twenty five 3044 02:34:29,840 --> 02:34:32,119 Speaker 2: year old superstar for nothing. 3045 02:34:32,360 --> 02:34:37,920 Speaker 1: If it's great, If Bo or anybody out there is wondering, hmm, 3046 02:34:38,959 --> 02:34:42,120 Speaker 1: is this really a good deal for the Lakers? Like 3047 02:34:42,200 --> 02:34:45,039 Speaker 1: am I one hundred percent sure? I'm on board with 3048 02:34:45,160 --> 02:34:48,879 Speaker 1: shipping a d off to the Dallas Mavericks for you know, 3049 02:34:50,040 --> 02:34:55,440 Speaker 1: you know what, leftovers from the Lakers refrigerator to get 3050 02:34:55,520 --> 02:34:59,480 Speaker 1: Luka Dancic, a twenty five year old NBA All NBA star. 3051 02:35:00,400 --> 02:35:03,480 Speaker 1: Look no further than Dallas Mavericks fan Twitter right now. 3052 02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:08,720 Speaker 1: If you want confirmation that the Lakers won this trade, 3053 02:35:09,360 --> 02:35:12,920 Speaker 1: just see what's happening out front of American Airlines Arena 3054 02:35:13,240 --> 02:35:13,640 Speaker 1: right now. 3055 02:35:13,720 --> 02:35:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you only need the video of MAVs fans carrying 3056 02:35:16,320 --> 02:35:19,200 Speaker 5: a coffin set to the song See You Again from 3057 02:35:19,240 --> 02:35:20,080 Speaker 5: Fast and Furious. 3058 02:35:22,720 --> 02:35:23,320 Speaker 1: The Mavericks. 3059 02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:28,080 Speaker 2: The Mavericks are trailing at halftime to the Cavaliers ninety 3060 02:35:28,160 --> 02:35:30,360 Speaker 2: They just gave up ninety one points and a half. 3061 02:35:31,440 --> 02:35:33,720 Speaker 2: I mean, what it was Jason Kidds saying to his 3062 02:35:33,800 --> 02:35:36,200 Speaker 2: team right now at halftime? What do you think they're 3063 02:35:36,200 --> 02:35:38,600 Speaker 2: down ninety one to forty six at the half. By 3064 02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:41,119 Speaker 2: the way, this La Mavericks team, twenty six and. 3065 02:35:41,080 --> 02:35:44,240 Speaker 5: Twenty three, they're a playoff team right now, how late 3066 02:35:44,320 --> 02:35:46,199 Speaker 5: do you think that team was up reading the news 3067 02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:47,119 Speaker 5: just like everybody else. 3068 02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:50,119 Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't sleep. I mean some of those 3069 02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:51,720 Speaker 1: players honestly probably didn't. 3070 02:35:51,800 --> 02:35:53,920 Speaker 2: And by the way, remember this La Mavericks team that's 3071 02:35:53,920 --> 02:35:58,280 Speaker 2: been playing without Luca since Christmas Day and they're twenty 3072 02:35:58,320 --> 02:36:00,760 Speaker 2: six and twenty three, so it's not like, you know, 3073 02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:04,879 Speaker 2: they completely evaporated without Luka Dancish, but they evaporated today 3074 02:36:05,680 --> 02:36:06,720 Speaker 2: ninety one points. 3075 02:36:07,320 --> 02:36:09,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you really have to be trying, you have, 3076 02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:11,200 Speaker 3: I mean, just do the math. 3077 02:36:12,760 --> 02:36:17,600 Speaker 2: That's twenty four minutes that the Cavs scored ninety one points. 3078 02:36:17,720 --> 02:36:19,640 Speaker 5: I just one time, I wish one of these teams 3079 02:36:19,680 --> 02:36:21,400 Speaker 5: would do this and then not pull up in the 3080 02:36:21,400 --> 02:36:23,240 Speaker 5: second half, like in the Cavs, just go for two 3081 02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:23,920 Speaker 5: hundred please. 3082 02:36:24,320 --> 02:36:26,200 Speaker 1: Oh it'd be great, just so much fun. Oh. 3083 02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:29,160 Speaker 2: I mean they're on pace to break the record for 3084 02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:32,760 Speaker 2: a regulation game. So we'll see if this continues. But 3085 02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:36,840 Speaker 2: I just can't wait for the Lakers. I want to 3086 02:36:36,840 --> 02:36:39,760 Speaker 2: hear Rob Polenka, Nico Harrison, GM and the Mavericks said, 3087 02:36:39,800 --> 02:36:42,920 Speaker 2: you were the only two people. You didn't tell Genie Buss, 3088 02:36:43,080 --> 02:36:45,800 Speaker 2: you didn't tell Lebron, you didn't tell JJ right, you 3089 02:36:45,879 --> 02:36:49,680 Speaker 2: told nobody. I'm about this trade that you and Harrison 3090 02:36:49,720 --> 02:36:52,279 Speaker 2: were talking about for according to it weeks. 3091 02:36:52,520 --> 02:36:56,680 Speaker 1: Imagine Jason Kidd's pregame speech was like the same thing 3092 02:36:56,720 --> 02:37:00,600 Speaker 1: that flight attendants say in case of emergency landing, you know, 3093 02:37:01,000 --> 02:37:05,800 Speaker 1: like we have exits, we have if an oxygen mask 3094 02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:08,920 Speaker 1: is deployed from the silly make sure you fasten yours 3095 02:37:08,959 --> 02:37:10,440 Speaker 1: to your face before helping others. 3096 02:37:10,520 --> 02:37:12,680 Speaker 5: I'm I'm setting the line. It's six and a half 3097 02:37:12,680 --> 02:37:16,400 Speaker 5: Bible references for Rob Polinka. No, but the introductory pressor 3098 02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:20,160 Speaker 5: if KCP was Manna from heaven. I'm really excited to 3099 02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:21,720 Speaker 5: hear what Luka Doncic is. 3100 02:37:22,600 --> 02:37:25,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you right now, this is biblical. 3101 02:37:25,440 --> 02:37:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean it really is. This is this for Dallas fans, 3102 02:37:28,959 --> 02:37:31,600 Speaker 1: it is the end times. They are they are treating 3103 02:37:31,640 --> 02:37:37,200 Speaker 1: this as though uh, somebody has has has taken a 3104 02:37:38,080 --> 02:37:42,080 Speaker 1: first born from them, and they're handling it actually shockingly well. 3105 02:37:42,360 --> 02:37:44,320 Speaker 1: As far as we know, no fires have been set. 3106 02:37:44,680 --> 02:37:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, no cars have been flipped over. There isn't 3107 02:37:47,520 --> 02:37:51,240 Speaker 1: an angry mob. It seems to be one that's a 3108 02:37:51,360 --> 02:37:57,160 Speaker 1: very very least compliant with local laws. I this is 3109 02:37:57,640 --> 02:38:00,360 Speaker 1: the most shocking trade, or actually, I don't want to 3110 02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:02,800 Speaker 1: say the most I think we're all very hyperbolic when 3111 02:38:02,800 --> 02:38:05,240 Speaker 1: things like this happened. But this is one of the 3112 02:38:05,280 --> 02:38:10,320 Speaker 1: most shocking trades in NBA history, certainly in sports history. 3113 02:38:10,440 --> 02:38:11,000 Speaker 4: It is. 3114 02:38:11,080 --> 02:38:13,280 Speaker 2: It is the most shocking, not just because of who 3115 02:38:13,360 --> 02:38:16,720 Speaker 2: was involved in the trade, but how it went down. 3116 02:38:16,879 --> 02:38:20,320 Speaker 2: So that's what's taken this to the way next level. 3117 02:38:20,360 --> 02:38:22,640 Speaker 5: I was asleep and my daughter woke me up, and 3118 02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:24,440 Speaker 5: I looked at my phone and I saw that I 3119 02:38:24,480 --> 02:38:27,040 Speaker 5: had like fifteen text messages and my Twitter was blowing up, 3120 02:38:27,040 --> 02:38:28,240 Speaker 5: and I'm like, what is going on? 3121 02:38:28,560 --> 02:38:31,480 Speaker 2: I told you my youngest son, Garrett, twenty six years old, 3122 02:38:31,520 --> 02:38:35,440 Speaker 2: a lifelong Laker, got literally a primal scream. I thought, 3123 02:38:35,720 --> 02:38:42,240 Speaker 2: I thought, like something happened. I'm downstairs. Oh I'm like what, No, 3124 02:38:42,600 --> 02:38:43,320 Speaker 2: that's not real. 3125 02:38:43,560 --> 02:38:46,120 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, go back to bed, Garrett. 3126 02:38:46,120 --> 02:38:50,280 Speaker 1: It's just god damn. Yeah, that's not a real. No way. 3127 02:38:50,800 --> 02:38:52,480 Speaker 2: And then when I heard the terms of the deal, 3128 02:38:52,640 --> 02:38:55,520 Speaker 2: because I'm thinking, what did they give up the reeves? 3129 02:38:56,360 --> 02:38:58,959 Speaker 3: They gave up their entire roster? Why they give up here? 3130 02:38:59,640 --> 02:39:03,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna MONSI was right. The Internet's only 3131 02:39:03,120 --> 02:39:06,880 Speaker 1: good for cab videos. Yeah, that's it. I you know what, Honestly, 3132 02:39:07,040 --> 02:39:11,400 Speaker 1: after this trade has been consummated, that's it. I think 3133 02:39:11,520 --> 02:39:13,879 Speaker 1: I think we found that of Twitter. That's it. That's 3134 02:39:14,000 --> 02:39:16,920 Speaker 1: that's as far as it goes. It's Graham TikTok, like, 3135 02:39:16,959 --> 02:39:20,160 Speaker 1: this is it. Social media can sports. Social media has 3136 02:39:20,280 --> 02:39:24,880 Speaker 1: reached its climax. We we are now in the downturn, 3137 02:39:25,000 --> 02:39:28,400 Speaker 1: the Dan Newm heading toward conclusion we don't need it anymore. 3138 02:39:28,680 --> 02:39:29,600 Speaker 1: This is it. 3139 02:39:29,760 --> 02:39:31,959 Speaker 2: This is the end of the well honest bottom line 3140 02:39:32,120 --> 02:39:35,480 Speaker 2: is this was done as a favorite to us because normally, 3141 02:39:35,640 --> 02:39:38,640 Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to lose everything. Because we 3142 02:39:38,720 --> 02:39:41,040 Speaker 2: got five hours next week on Super Bowl Sunday and 3143 02:39:41,120 --> 02:39:41,600 Speaker 2: fill up. 3144 02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:43,240 Speaker 3: We didn't have to use it today. 3145 02:39:43,360 --> 02:39:44,640 Speaker 1: No, because we could use it. 3146 02:39:44,640 --> 02:39:48,000 Speaker 2: On this We saved all that stuff, full of much 3147 02:39:48,040 --> 02:39:50,280 Speaker 2: more coming up. Keep it right here. This is Fox 3148 02:39:50,320 --> 02:39:51,120 Speaker 2: Sports Radio