Speaker 1: Happy New Year groupies. To finish out nineteen, we are
Speaker 1: of course talking about the biggest headlines surrounding the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: the coaching search. Obviously, Coach Taylor walked into a situation
Speaker 1: at Dylan where expectations were sky high. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: talking about a program that expects to win state titles
Speaker 1: year in and year out. And then we go into
Speaker 1: sharing some of our favorite memories from celebrating New Year's
Speaker 1: of years past. I was in Times Square, No, did
Speaker 1: you wear a diaper? I hear people that I walked.
Speaker 1: I walked by it and all the people were in
Speaker 1: like the cages. They have everyone in cages. That's why
Speaker 1: you have to wear a diaper. Unfortunately, all were forced
Speaker 1: in that moment to imagine Will wearing a diaper. We
Speaker 1: have that in so much more. On the final group
Speaker 1: chat of nineteen, you've been added to the group chat
Speaker 1: with your friends Caroline, can Max Sensen, and Will Brian.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year everyone. If you're listening to this in
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, that's old news. Happy twenty. This is
Speaker 1: a weird year because I remember being a senior in
Speaker 1: high school. My biology teacher had young twin boys and
Speaker 1: they were. They were teeny tiny and had on these
Speaker 1: shirts that said class of I thought, wow, that's forever away.
Speaker 1: Now they're graduating high school, they're going to college. It's weird.
Speaker 1: This is a big year. So happy new year. Hope
Speaker 1: everyone had a great two thousand nineteen. I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of negative things on social media about people saying
Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen is not a good year for them.
Speaker 1: That's sad. Is it a good year for you guys?
Speaker 1: So maybe I think it was a good year for Willibro.
Speaker 1: It was a pretty good year. There's I mean, there's
Speaker 1: things that didn't go great. You know, the rush defense
Speaker 1: wasn't fantastic. So that your world around Panthers rush, Yes
Speaker 1: it does, Yes, yes it does. Max is totally no. No No,
Speaker 1: I mean Panthers stack I got to talk about a
Speaker 1: lot of things this year. So Panthers Stacky is happy. Yes,
Speaker 1: did you have a good Yeah? I've got no real complaints. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like it was a pretty It was a
Speaker 1: pretty good year for I mean, yes, the football season
Speaker 1: did not go great, but we don't like a small party.
Speaker 1: Don't let our world around exactly. You can't all the time.
Speaker 1: We unfortunately cannot control the outcome of the games on Sunday,
Speaker 1: So if we let that some people on Twitter, I
Speaker 1: think we can. Yeah, I mean, it's just we're just
Speaker 1: here to tell the stories. So um, yeah, I would
Speaker 1: have liked to tell some stories about some more wins,
Speaker 1: but no, I feel like twenty nine team is pretty
Speaker 1: good to me personally. Yeah, I'm the same. Nine was
Speaker 1: a great year for me. Is gonna be really fun.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun for a lot of reason ends
Speaker 1: a lot of personal reasons, but it's also going to
Speaker 1: be fun because of all the changes that are about
Speaker 1: to happen to the Carolina Panthers. Of course, starting with
Speaker 1: right now, what is stealing all headlines for us as
Speaker 1: a content group right now is stealing our attention is
Speaker 1: of course the head coaching search, whether they are rumors
Speaker 1: or they are true, or their sources. We're hearing so
Speaker 1: much about this coaching search. I know you are as well.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this podcast nine times out of
Speaker 1: ten you are a Panthers fan, so you are hearing
Speaker 1: all about this too. So we thought that we would
Speaker 1: play a little what is this wheel of fortune roulette?
Speaker 1: What we we didn't really come up with a fun
Speaker 1: name for this. Yeah, we should have done that. We're
Speaker 1: really leaving. We came up with us off of the
Speaker 1: coaching carousel because that happens every year. Roulette wheel. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do the roulette. So that's what we're doing. We're
Speaker 1: going to just spin the wheel that we have up
Speaker 1: here with coaches names on them, and we're just going
Speaker 1: to talk about what you worked really hard on this
Speaker 1: wheel too. It looks beautiful with all the names on
Speaker 1: it all. I love the prices, right, and so I
Speaker 1: just kind of pulled in my best crafty showcase showdown
Speaker 1: right obviously that the listeners can't see. But it's this
Speaker 1: huge wheel that's right in front of us, and Matt
Speaker 1: is literally going to spin this thing until we land
Speaker 1: on a coach. Better give it a good space. We've
Speaker 1: given that an official, an official role in this podcast
Speaker 1: other than being the producer that puts it all together.
Speaker 1: So are you excited about that? Very excited. It's a
Speaker 1: very heavy wheel to spin too. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: bit of a pain to get it in this studio.
Speaker 1: We managed it is, all right, So you get you
Speaker 1: get it. We're gonna spin it. We're gonna talk about it, UM,
Speaker 1: and then we're just going to run through as many
Speaker 1: as we can without making this the longest podcast of
Speaker 1: nine we'll leave this UM and inappropriate yes, appropriate links.
Speaker 1: So let's has jump into this. Not spin the wheel,
Speaker 1: good spin nice. What are we laying? First? Up is
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. This is everyone's favorite Mike McCarthy. Well, I
Speaker 1: know you want to talk about Mike McCarthy. McCarthy, about Mike,
Speaker 1: you're actually my Packer sweater. So Mike McCarthy obviously Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers Mike McCarthy have been the dynamic tandem for much
Speaker 1: of the last decade. Rumored already to have been interviewed
Speaker 1: twice according to reports. I think the big thing to
Speaker 1: know about Mike is Mike. Mike, my old buddy Mike.
Speaker 1: That just I love Mike. You know Mike, Mike Mack,
Speaker 1: you know Mike U. So McCarthy was fired by the
Speaker 1: Packards after or kind of near the end of the
Speaker 1: season UM two years where Rogers was hurt kind of
Speaker 1: in his last two years there. Obviously had a long
Speaker 1: time with Rogers, a lot of success. Offensive coach spent
Speaker 1: some of the nineties with the Kansas City Chiefs, Um,
Speaker 1: but obviously offensive minded, one of the older candidates among
Speaker 1: the candidates that have been listed so far. UM kind
Speaker 1: of the big the big storyline around him is that
Speaker 1: he spent this whole last year essentially in a bunker
Speaker 1: up in Wisconsin, looking over tape with Jim Haslett, Frank Sinnetti,
Speaker 1: and Scott McCurley, literally going through, week by week, this
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do on a Tuesday. This is
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna structure practice, this is how we're gonna
Speaker 1: game plan for this, looking back over old Packers tapes,
Speaker 1: looking at what all of the innovative offenses of the
Speaker 1: league are doing right now, the Chiefs obviously uh studying them,
Speaker 1: the Ravens looking at what these teams are doing and
Speaker 1: trying to figure out ways to kind of innovate and
Speaker 1: create new ways to go about creating his own offense.
Speaker 1: So he's putting out the right he's putting out the
Speaker 1: right storyline. He's certainly saying what you want to hear
Speaker 1: of innovation and old school toughness, and that that's what
Speaker 1: he's trying to convey. So that's kind of why he's
Speaker 1: he's on the radar right now, and he was someone
Speaker 1: that they could interview early that they didn't have to
Speaker 1: wait till the end of the season because he was
Speaker 1: already you know out Yeah. Yeah. You imagine he has
Speaker 1: come very prepared for his interviews after spending a year
Speaker 1: in a bunker evaluating everything there is to see with
Speaker 1: NFL football these days. Um yeah. I thought that was
Speaker 1: super interesting just reading about that throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the year, that this guy, a Super Bowl champion head coach,
Speaker 1: was kind of just rededicating himself to evaluating his own
Speaker 1: philosophies as well as the philosophies of those around the league.
Speaker 1: The thing about McCarthy is it's like he was obviously
Speaker 1: blessed to have a guy like Aaron Rodgers as his quarterback,
Speaker 1: but it's also kind of something that's like a knock
Speaker 1: against him now, it's like, how come you didn't win
Speaker 1: more with Aaron Um And I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the questions people have about McCarthy is, Okay, so you
Speaker 1: had one of the greatest quarterback talents of all time.
Speaker 1: They did win that one super Bowl. They had some
Speaker 1: great seasons fifteen and one season, a twelve and four season,
Speaker 1: won that division, a bunch of years in a row,
Speaker 1: But why was there not more? And I think that's
Speaker 1: the question that Mike is answering in these in these interviews,
Speaker 1: actually looks for his next job. Yeah, we're all just
Speaker 1: on a first name bracism Mike, but there's no denying
Speaker 1: that the best we saw Aaron Rodgers was, you know,
Speaker 1: with with Mike McCarthy. I mean when when those two
Speaker 1: were really humming. I mean it was that was something
Speaker 1: especially I just didn't win as much, Like it's hard
Speaker 1: enough to win one super Bowl, So he's got that.
Speaker 1: You know, there's not many guys out there interviewing for
Speaker 1: jobs with a Super Bowl ring, but I think people
Speaker 1: do wonder, Okay, you had Aaron Rodgers, how comedian't win more? Well?
Speaker 1: And that that might be a theme as we continue
Speaker 1: down this wheel today of well, all of these guys
Speaker 1: had this stud at quarterback, you know, so it's like
Speaker 1: how much of it is really them versus how much
Speaker 1: of it is this player that's kind of carrying their success.
Speaker 1: I mean, one way or another. You can always debate,
Speaker 1: you know, how much of its play calling, how much
Speaker 1: much of it just this is an incredible quarterback. I
Speaker 1: wonder with Mike, since we all know him so well
Speaker 1: he would be a coordinator. I think he has prepared
Speaker 1: himself so much and put this narrative out of being
Speaker 1: a head coach. But like we're saying, there are some
Speaker 1: things against him that in this new age of NFL,
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't fit the bill of what these owners
Speaker 1: are looking for in a head coach. Would he go
Speaker 1: in and be a coordinator because he has all the
Speaker 1: philosophies and he knows he has proven to be that
Speaker 1: type of coach. But I do wonder about that of
Speaker 1: cold hold himself to be the head coach, or would
Speaker 1: he go in under a young, hot shot coach and
Speaker 1: be the coordinator. I think he's he's earned the right
Speaker 1: to be a head coach again. And I think with
Speaker 1: the way this league works and guys getting recycled around
Speaker 1: and another opportunities, I mean this, this guy's got a
Speaker 1: super Bowl ring again. There there aren't many head coaches
Speaker 1: who have that. I do think. I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a play caller if he's head coach again, and
Speaker 1: that's going to be part of the deal. It's like
Speaker 1: he's gonna call plays because he feels like that's what
Speaker 1: that's what he brings to the table as an offensive mind.
Speaker 1: So I think he'll get another shot to be a
Speaker 1: head coach. I don't know where that'll be. Maybe it's here, um,
Speaker 1: but I think he's He's a guy someone's going to
Speaker 1: take a chance and then rightfully so. But you would
Speaker 1: have to wonder if this cycle, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: his name has obviously been now been connected to a
Speaker 1: number of teams. You know, if this cycle goes through
Speaker 1: and he doesn't get a job, I mean I I'd
Speaker 1: wonder that, you know, if two years out of the league,
Speaker 1: then you start to you know, you start to question that.
Speaker 1: All right, But that's five minutes on Mike. So let's see.
Speaker 1: Let's go who are who's our next guy? Wheel? It's
Speaker 1: been that wheel? John Can under this is a dark
Speaker 1: horse in this race. Everyone does anyone know who John
Speaker 1: Can is? Out there? I don't think they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to tell us a little bit more. This is my
Speaker 1: dad was going to say, I think this is so funny.
Speaker 1: I jokingly threw this out in a planning meeting because
Speaker 1: my dad looks like a football coach. So I just
Speaker 1: that it would be funny if we wanted to create
Speaker 1: some buds and some rumors to just have my dad
Speaker 1: fly in to you know, you don't even need to
Speaker 1: fly in, just walk out of the airport looking like
Speaker 1: a coach, have a black car pick him up, bring
Speaker 1: him to Bank of America Stadium, just have him walk in,
Speaker 1: just so people would be like, who is this guy
Speaker 1: that the Panthers are interviewing? What's his resume look like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell us a little about what what kind of coaches
Speaker 1: he's He's definitely a player's coach. He is more offense.
Speaker 1: He played offensive line in college, so he was definitely
Speaker 1: all he's all about the trenches. That was really where
Speaker 1: he feels old school toughness, but very much so, very
Speaker 1: very into the discipline and making sure that guys have
Speaker 1: a routine. That was his big deal when he was
Speaker 1: he was coaching high school ball was to teach these
Speaker 1: guys some discipline, which you know that that builds some
Speaker 1: type of culture here. And so I I, you know,
Speaker 1: I really think guys should really give John Candle. Look now,
Speaker 1: when you say he looks like a coach, like to
Speaker 1: describe what you mean by that, and like, like what
Speaker 1: was his game day attire? Like was he like he's
Speaker 1: like in your classic. The game day really wasn't where
Speaker 1: he shines. Where he shines is I mean he does
Speaker 1: in his coaching ability, but looking like a coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we want to coach a shine on game day. That's
Speaker 1: kind of important. He wants it, you know, he wants
Speaker 1: some things now. But where he shines and looking like
Speaker 1: a football coach is just on a random Tuesday at Target.
Speaker 1: He is always looking like. He came to training camp
Speaker 1: this past year in Spartanburg and people instantly were like,
Speaker 1: where's he coach? Yeah, where's hey coach over here? He
Speaker 1: came up to Indianapolis to training camp when I was there,
Speaker 1: and instantly people that I did not know, we're asking,
Speaker 1: where's he coach? He looked? He just if you if
Speaker 1: you were going to cast a football coach in a movie,
Speaker 1: you would be looking for a John John look coach. Name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he John Kane Is. There's a lot of casting calls
Speaker 1: for these movies. I think he would just be a
Speaker 1: phenomenal extra in a movie. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: has the acting chops to be the lead guy, but
Speaker 1: who knows. My dad is a talented Well. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend the wheel again because we're looking for
Speaker 1: a real coach, not a TV coach. Wow, he was
Speaker 1: a real coach. He is You make it really tough
Speaker 1: to be nice to you. He is a he has
Speaker 1: a real coach. He actually became an I think John
Speaker 1: Cant could put together a great staff with some good coordinators.
Speaker 1: He really could. People would want to work for it.
Speaker 1: But he did stop coaching. I do understand where you're
Speaker 1: coming from. He stopped coaching in two thousand twelve, and
Speaker 1: now he's refreshed. He's energy. He's been watching a lot
Speaker 1: of taple, watching a lot of he's been in a
Speaker 1: bunker in Carolina, he has. He's been learning kind of
Speaker 1: the organizational type as an athletic director. So he would
Speaker 1: be able to come in and instantly you go, John,
Speaker 1: all right, spind the wheel. Matt Matt Rule, hot name,
Speaker 1: hot name. Everybody's talking about Matt Rule right now. What
Speaker 1: do we think he's interviewing for every job available? If
Speaker 1: we talked about the game, what do we think about
Speaker 1: his you know we're just talking at game day attire.
Speaker 1: What do we think about that book? So he's got
Speaker 1: to look, Yeah, he's got this like this look that
Speaker 1: I guess became his things l w K. It's like
Speaker 1: a little like it's like a kind of like windbreaker
Speaker 1: vest with the hoodie short sleeve right underneath, and I
Speaker 1: guess his players and everybody just sort of like got behind.
Speaker 1: It was like had these like Matt Powers. It's the
Speaker 1: casual Belichick. Yeah yeah, I like the college Belichick. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: rules and an interesting guy. I mean his resume looks
Speaker 1: a little like this. Took over Temple as their head coach.
Speaker 1: They were too in tennis, first year six and six
Speaker 1: and next year ten and four, ten and three, so
Speaker 1: a complete turnaround rebuild. Then he gets the bailor job.
Speaker 1: First year there one and eleven, next year seven and six,
Speaker 1: next year eleven and two. So he clearly has a
Speaker 1: track record of getting to places, figuring out where the
Speaker 1: problem areas are, addressing them, and then they become really good,
Speaker 1: really competitive. Obviously, this is at the in the college ranks,
Speaker 1: so there's a transition to be made about coming to
Speaker 1: the NFL. But clearly with the amount of interest that
Speaker 1: people have in him, he's got the type of personality,
Speaker 1: the demeanor. I like his honesty. I like the way
Speaker 1: he approached his his team, meeting with his Bailor players
Speaker 1: and was like, guys, I would be dumb not to
Speaker 1: hear these teams out, and he credited the players like,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting this opportunity with that you guys going
Speaker 1: on the field and getting wins. So I just like
Speaker 1: the way he's handling it all. Obviously comes from a
Speaker 1: really good coaching tree with guys he's worked for. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a job soon. Um. And it seems
Speaker 1: like teams are lining up to be you know, the
Speaker 1: ones potentially offer him. Yeah, the Giants are very very
Speaker 1: interested in him. He said no to interviewing for the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns apparently, so that's that's something. Yeah. Um, So yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a This is an interesting person because when
Speaker 1: we heard David Tepper first talk, he said, you know,
Speaker 1: having that NFL experience would be nice, but he didn't
Speaker 1: rule out the fact of of not rule. He didn't
Speaker 1: rule out talking to college coaches, And this one is
Speaker 1: interesting and I thought that, you know, the big question
Speaker 1: is can he make that transition. I think the fact
Speaker 1: that he held the meeting with his players and was
Speaker 1: very upfront with him that's the NFL. That's what makes
Speaker 1: team successful. As the transparency the honesty, the this is
Speaker 1: a business, this is you know everybody like Ben. I
Speaker 1: think that is a big indicator if he has those
Speaker 1: intangibles that you want out of a coach. Now there's
Speaker 1: a lot more to it. The NFL is, of course,
Speaker 1: this national brand, and at Baylor, not too many people
Speaker 1: unless you're in Waco or super you know, paying attention
Speaker 1: to that or in Texas. So I think there is
Speaker 1: that as well. But I like him. I like how
Speaker 1: he's handled the press. I like how he's handled his
Speaker 1: business of they play on New Year's Day, so watching
Speaker 1: pay attention to tune in to see how they play.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm super interested he's going. I think he will
Speaker 1: land in the NFL, which just seems pretty where. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again like that the Bailor program, like with everything
Speaker 1: that went on there, like that was not an easy
Speaker 1: situation to walk into. So yeah, he's clearly got the
Speaker 1: coaching chaps. Um. I would be curious to see what
Speaker 1: kind of staff he could put together. I think a
Speaker 1: lot for a lot of these guys, it's important that
Speaker 1: they have somebody with NFL head coaching experience on their
Speaker 1: staff to kind of help them with that transition. Um,
Speaker 1: and he's not necessarily a specialist type like this isn't
Speaker 1: like whiz kid offensive mind or some you know, defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator who's just shut teams down throughout his tenure. He's
Speaker 1: kind of a he's a program builder and and I
Speaker 1: think that can transfer to the NFL. But a lot
Speaker 1: of these NFL owners now are looking for a guy
Speaker 1: who's going to give them a specific edge on one
Speaker 1: side of the ball, you know, and say we're we
Speaker 1: know we're going into this game with an advantage because
Speaker 1: this guy can call plays better than anybody else. Rule
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a different um candidate in
Speaker 1: that sense, and that his strength is obviously being the
Speaker 1: CEO type to kind of bring rise all ships. Would
Speaker 1: you say that he plays by his own rules? I
Speaker 1: think I think you could say that. I think and
Speaker 1: and finally, I mean and I think the Panthers but
Speaker 1: I think they need that right now. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't think they need, you know, a whiz kid to
Speaker 1: come in and sit in a room. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, that's why his coordinator hires would be important,
Speaker 1: right because there needs to be a culture were established
Speaker 1: right now, and look at what's coming for the Panthers
Speaker 1: in the next three years. I mean, you're you're moving
Speaker 1: from your headquarters being an uptown Charlotte to moving it to,
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen minutes away in South Carolina. What's that
Speaker 1: going to look like for where you're coaching staff lives,
Speaker 1: where your players live, how the game. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of just organization changes that a guy like
Speaker 1: this seems to have the chops to be able to
Speaker 1: handle that and move forward. I think that's a big
Speaker 1: thing too, if you can. I mean, if your team
Speaker 1: doesn't know what they're doing when they're doing it, that
Speaker 1: that's problem number one. And it seems like he's done
Speaker 1: that for sure. He is. He has to keep his
Speaker 1: name at the top of your list if you're keeping
Speaker 1: up with this coaching search. Spend the wheel again, Matt's
Speaker 1: please Josh McDaniels. You want to take a take a
Speaker 1: stab at Josh here, first tell us a little b
Speaker 1: about Mr McDaniels. I just have a history with Josh
Speaker 1: McDaniels because I was a part of the content team
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis when we agreed to terms with Mr McDaniels
Speaker 1: to come and then he did it. So he's a
Speaker 1: great coach and he's done this before. This is not
Speaker 1: the first time that he has said I will go
Speaker 1: and you know, then comes back to New England, goes
Speaker 1: back to New England. I think he's his His His hires
Speaker 1: will also be a very big deal. They're all going
Speaker 1: to be a big deals. Coordinators are. But I think
Speaker 1: him even more because he has been Belichick's right hand
Speaker 1: man for years and Belichick has made it very clear
Speaker 1: that he doesn't want Josh to leave, but Josh has
Speaker 1: continued to, you know, poke his head out of the
Speaker 1: sand and look at the opportunities that are coming. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he has had Tom Brady to be, you know, the puppet.
Speaker 1: I'm not who's sure who's the puppet or puppet master
Speaker 1: in that relationship, but um, he's had him to work with.
Speaker 1: Of course, all the success that they've had in New England.
Speaker 1: I think what is interesting when you look at assistants
Speaker 1: that come out of New England is they try to
Speaker 1: be Belichick. And then that's what you see in Detroit,
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. That's what you know, we kind of heard
Speaker 1: about Josh McDaniels coming out is and that's what owners want,
Speaker 1: owners want. What New England is doing, and so yes,
Speaker 1: that's a very easy way to kind of sell yourself.
Speaker 1: I think Josh McDaniels is a fantastic coach and he
Speaker 1: was an exciting hire when when we initially hired him
Speaker 1: in India for a few minutes, just a couple of days.
Speaker 1: It was really exciting. Um. But I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm on the fence about this. I think he's great.
Speaker 1: I think he would he obviously interviews very very well
Speaker 1: and he would have this plan. I just I'm just
Speaker 1: weird about him. Yeah, yeah, well, and look, obviously you
Speaker 1: have reason to be. I was intern with the Broncos
Speaker 1: right after Josh left Denver where he had gotten fired
Speaker 1: after being the head coach there. That was his first
Speaker 1: opportunity the first time he left New England, went to Denver,
Speaker 1: didn't didn't work out great for him there, um, but
Speaker 1: went back to New England and clearly re established himself
Speaker 1: as one of the top, if not the top offensive
Speaker 1: mind in the league. And I think his players all
Speaker 1: swear by him. Um, whether it's talking to Chris Hogan
Speaker 1: here in this locker room or you know, Brady Edelman,
Speaker 1: all the all these guys, they will have you leave
Speaker 1: that he is a genius and he's somebody who will
Speaker 1: give you a clear advantage over the rest of the
Speaker 1: league with just how he views the game and how
Speaker 1: he can dissect a defense. As you were talking about, Caroline,
Speaker 1: everybody wants a piece of what Belichick has done in
Speaker 1: New England if you can somehow replicate that in your
Speaker 1: own franchise. So I think that's what makes Josh appealing.
Speaker 1: He's young offense. This is an offensive league, a quarterback
Speaker 1: driven league. That's what Josh McDaniel's specialty is. Um. He's
Speaker 1: been very picky, clearly about trying to figure out where
Speaker 1: because he's had the opportunities and he's going to have
Speaker 1: them again this year. It seems so Um, if you
Speaker 1: want a guy who you think is going to clearly
Speaker 1: give you some sort of offensive an edge, that is
Speaker 1: what Josh is always seemingly brought to the table. But
Speaker 1: there's always been questions about him because of just kind
Speaker 1: of how things went in Denver and obviously what happened
Speaker 1: with Indianapolis. Yeah, when I say I'm weird about him,
Speaker 1: it's more just the gun shy. Is he really going
Speaker 1: to leave New England? I don't know if he will
Speaker 1: and you look at all these opportunities. I think he
Speaker 1: would be a great higher I mean, why what you're
Speaker 1: saying of all the players swearing by him, that's what
Speaker 1: you want. You want someone that instantly these players are
Speaker 1: going to buy into and I think Josh McDaniels would
Speaker 1: be that will be that if if he chooses to
Speaker 1: leave New England. I just don't know if Belichick will
Speaker 1: let him go. And I think, what what is upcoming
Speaker 1: in New England. You just look at that situation of
Speaker 1: Tom Brady at the end of the year, is a
Speaker 1: free agent, all of these changes that could be coming there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe this is the time for him to leave New England.
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's not. Maybe this is where Belichick hammers
Speaker 1: down and says, absolutely not, you can't leave because we
Speaker 1: have all these pieces, or maybe it's just it is time.
Speaker 1: I always had the sense that Belichick was grooming him
Speaker 1: for this opportunity, and I think that's what Belichick has
Speaker 1: enjoyed kind of doing, whether it's Patricia or Flores or
Speaker 1: guy like Rabel who played for him. I think that's
Speaker 1: that's that's what elevates the greatness of Bill Belichick is
Speaker 1: when he can say look at all these guys who
Speaker 1: have now. Um, So I think he wants Josh to
Speaker 1: have that opportunity. Um. I think it's more Josh being
Speaker 1: like I've got Belichick and Brady here. It's like I
Speaker 1: can I'm not going to leave until I know that
Speaker 1: I can have success or I feel really really good
Speaker 1: about the next place I'm going to. Because it has
Speaker 1: not been a bad gig for him in New England. No,
Speaker 1: it hasn't. And let's go with the off the wall
Speaker 1: chance that he emerges in New England and what if
Speaker 1: it's an end and of an era, whether it's next
Speaker 1: year or in three years or whatever it is, and
Speaker 1: in Belichick saying, hey, man, stick around, I will be fait.
Speaker 1: You know. So, I just think there's a lot going
Speaker 1: on in New England. I don't think it's as much
Speaker 1: of There's been plenty of jobs that Josh obviously was
Speaker 1: interested in. I think what is the most interesting piece
Speaker 1: here is what's happening in New England. It's not you know,
Speaker 1: he's not a rule where it's like, all right, this
Speaker 1: is the next step for me. I think it would
Speaker 1: be almost a lateral, you know, not obviously a head
Speaker 1: coach is a step up. But when you just look
Speaker 1: at the opportunities that he has, I think he gets
Speaker 1: to look at it more from a lateral perspective than
Speaker 1: all out of these other coaches, and that's what has
Speaker 1: held him in New England. He's an interesting one. He's
Speaker 1: fascinating to me just because of all the interest he
Speaker 1: continues to get and the decisions he's making and Tom
Speaker 1: Brady free agent. That's what I'm saying, maybe tom Brady,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the time Tom Brady comes with him, let's
Speaker 1: just throw it all. Let can you imagine? Yeah, you imagine?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, We're just going to leave that out
Speaker 1: there for everyone. Just just just think about it. Do
Speaker 1: you guys think that that's the first question Josh McDaniels
Speaker 1: has asked about what happened with Indianapolis last year? Do
Speaker 1: you think that's the first interview question he gets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's got to be It's got to be the elephant
Speaker 1: everyone's got. I don't know because he was asked about
Speaker 1: that at the Super Bowl. But after after he went
Speaker 1: through everything in Indianapolis, there was a press he had
Speaker 1: a press conference at the Super Bowl, and that's where
Speaker 1: he was really asked about it. And he did address it.
Speaker 1: He had his answer for everyone. But do you think
Speaker 1: a guy, I mean, you guys know temper If I'm hell,
Speaker 1: that's what ye yeah, he's saying. Yeah, if I'm an
Speaker 1: nfil team, I have to get to the bottom of
Speaker 1: what happened there, explained to me what happened. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is great. I mean the story is that Belichick wouldn't
Speaker 1: let him leave the building that he had told Belichick
Speaker 1: and he was starting to pack up his office, and
Speaker 1: Belichick came down and sat in his office, wouldn't let
Speaker 1: him and said, what is it going to take to
Speaker 1: keep you here? That was the story, and so then
Speaker 1: he called his wife and everyone because there were so
Speaker 1: many things about the assistance that were higher. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of layers to that. One more
Speaker 1: time spend the wheel here. My arm is so heavy
Speaker 1: from spinning. Ye know, we'll get Eric B enemy Eric
Speaker 1: B enemy, the enemy be enemy. I mean think of
Speaker 1: all Eric sleeping with the enemy. Yeah, that's a Chris Berman.
Speaker 1: Uh wanta quick rundown on the enemy. I think this
Speaker 1: is a really intriguing guy as well. Has had a
Speaker 1: lot of success under Andy Reid with the chiefs. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna let Andy speak again. We're on first name
Speaker 1: basis with all these guys. Um, here's what Andy, I'm
Speaker 1: just because, honestly what we You don't care what I
Speaker 1: have to say about Erk care. This is what Andy
Speaker 1: Reid has stayed about airb NIV. I'd say, hire him,
Speaker 1: like right now. This is what I tell you. I
Speaker 1: don't want to lose him. But if you're asking me
Speaker 1: if he's ready to be a head coach, yeah, he's ready.
Speaker 1: He was ready last year. Nobody has in more control
Speaker 1: than he is within this game. He's a leader of men.
Speaker 1: He knows football, but he knows the offense like the
Speaker 1: back of his hand. He's in the quarterback room every day.
Speaker 1: I think if you talked to Patrick Mahomes, I think
Speaker 1: Patrick would tell you how much of an influence he's
Speaker 1: had on him. So a ringing endorsement from Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: who has had a lot of success in this league. Um,
Speaker 1: the enemy is as an offensive guy. Obviously, with my
Speaker 1: homes and what that chief's offense has done, people have
Speaker 1: marveled at it. He's he's clearly ready for an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Will a team give him one? I mean, he went
Speaker 1: through I think four or five interviews with teams last
Speaker 1: year and didn't get it. Now he's going to kind
Speaker 1: of go through his name is going through the car
Speaker 1: wash again, and we'll see. But I I'm also very
Speaker 1: intrigued by this one. The Enemy, The Enemy, I like
Speaker 1: it a lot. I think it's a great it's a
Speaker 1: great call of you know, someone he spent some time
Speaker 1: at Colorado, so who doesn't necessarily have all of the
Speaker 1: years of Nbelle experience. But I think it's interesting that
Speaker 1: he was assistant in the NFL, then went back for
Speaker 1: the Colorado job, and then came back, so you know,
Speaker 1: it has a little bit of both. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of times guys are kind of all all one
Speaker 1: or the other. So I mean it shows that he
Speaker 1: you know, he's a little bit more u versatile and
Speaker 1: what he's programs he's been able to build. But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean went running backs coach, which small Charles, and
Speaker 1: then now with what he's done with mahomes the last
Speaker 1: two years. I mean, it's incredible, it is, and I
Speaker 1: think he's one of those that, like you said, last year,
Speaker 1: he went through the ringer of interviews, but they didn't
Speaker 1: really hear his names. So. But then when there's this
Speaker 1: ringing endorsement that comes out from a head coach, I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to listen to that because he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to lose him. But he's still going out
Speaker 1: there and saying, hey, I think this guy is very
Speaker 1: ready to come in in the interesting part with him
Speaker 1: is I think a question that these coaches aren't getting
Speaker 1: is the Cam Newton question, what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: Is their quarterback you you would want to bring in
Speaker 1: that you think you could bring in, whether that's through
Speaker 1: free agency or you know. I think that's an interesting
Speaker 1: piece and I would have loved to hear what he
Speaker 1: has to say. I think that Josh McDaniels could pull
Speaker 1: in a free agent quarterback from somewhere if that's the
Speaker 1: direction that this organization chooses to go. I think even
Speaker 1: you know Rule could do the same. I think there's
Speaker 1: enough attraction around him, or he even knows the college
Speaker 1: game really well to maybe know a second or third
Speaker 1: round guy that you know if you do, if you
Speaker 1: choose to do that again and do the will career
Speaker 1: experiment again, I think this is an interesting I just
Speaker 1: want to know who who would you Who is someone
Speaker 1: that you you think could do it here in Carolina?
Speaker 1: What is it Cam Newton? Is it someone else? And
Speaker 1: I think that that's a piece that with him, I'm
Speaker 1: not really sure what that answer would be. I think
Speaker 1: with all the other guys that are in this running,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, I think this might be the direction
Speaker 1: that they would go with him. I mean, Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. And then you know, you look at
Speaker 1: the backups they've had on there and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's the interesting piece with
Speaker 1: this guy is of course you still there's still this
Speaker 1: quarterback question that we're going to be talking about. Absolutely, absolutely, Matt.
Speaker 1: Do we have time for one more spin? Give us
Speaker 1: one more spin? One more all right? I can do that.
Speaker 1: Eric Taylor, Yes, I was hoping he was going to
Speaker 1: land down this one. This is I mean, this would
Speaker 1: be okay. I don't even know where to be in
Speaker 1: with this. I'm just gonna start. I'm just gonna start. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Coach Taylor walked into a situation at Dylan where expectations
Speaker 1: were sky high. I mean, you're talking about a program
Speaker 1: that expects to win state titles year in and year out.
Speaker 1: To go eight and two in his first season and
Speaker 1: win the state title game. With everything that happened with
Speaker 1: Jason Street early in the year, the horrific nature of
Speaker 1: that injury, to to rally the team around a guy
Speaker 1: not many people believed in Matt Sarrison and well, I
Speaker 1: know you were one of them who didn't think he
Speaker 1: could get the job done. But this was a guy
Speaker 1: who they built a game plan for and really got
Speaker 1: that whole locker room to believe that Saracen could lead
Speaker 1: them to a state title. And they did it. It
Speaker 1: was remarkable. Seven and one the next year to losing
Speaker 1: the state quarterfinal was disappointing. Okay, you had the j. D.
Speaker 1: McCoy experiment. Another quarterback you bring into the mix. How
Speaker 1: was that going to affect the locker room, the psyche
Speaker 1: of that team. But he met Caroline Doe left. They
Speaker 1: managed to navigate You're gonna make me laugh. They navigated
Speaker 1: that well enough. And yes, he lost again in the
Speaker 1: state title game in two thousand and eight after nine
Speaker 1: and one season, but then took on a major rebuilding
Speaker 1: project in East Dillon, and Matt, you know how difficult
Speaker 1: that East Dillon situation was very challenging. Circumstances, rebuilds that
Speaker 1: program to and eight the first year, nine and one
Speaker 1: the second year, and they win the state title. The
Speaker 1: East Dillon Lions winning a state championship. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's storybook stuff. Well, let's not forget all the drama
Speaker 1: off the field that was happening well, that he had
Speaker 1: to navigate through make sure that his team was ready
Speaker 1: for the game day. I mean that that is a leader. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You want to hear about some accolades, I'll give you some.
Speaker 1: Listed MTV's Best TV Character of two thousand eleven, a
Speaker 1: l TV placed him in it's top twenty TV dads.
Speaker 1: What more do you want? Hey? Well said that, what
Speaker 1: more do you? I ask you? I ask you. He
Speaker 1: has to be at the top of the list. He
Speaker 1: has to be if he's not. And is there any
Speaker 1: any catchphrase for a coach better than clear eyes full hearts?
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean, I think we already
Speaker 1: have the graphic ready for that. We need to get
Speaker 1: that made. Actually, Daniel, can we listen to explosions in
Speaker 1: the sky for a second game? That should bring us out?
Speaker 1: That really should. If you don't know who this coaches,
Speaker 1: google him. You'll instantly fall in love with him like
Speaker 1: we have here at the group chat table, and we
Speaker 1: hope that he's at the top of the list of
Speaker 1: all the names that we ran through today. Of course,
Speaker 1: there are more names in the coaching carousel that we
Speaker 1: will be keeping an eye on that everyone will and
Speaker 1: from what we hear, this is going to happen pretty fast.
Speaker 1: So buckle up everyone. We we are going to have
Speaker 1: a new coach for the Carolina Panthers sooner rather than later. Um.
Speaker 1: But before we go, New Year's is another It's a
Speaker 1: not a real holiday. I'm not a huge New Year's guy.
Speaker 1: Just come out and it's not a real holiday. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a It is a turning of the page. It
Speaker 1: is a new calendar year for everyone. But uh, the
Speaker 1: only think it's a real holiday. But it always gives
Speaker 1: some good stories. So let's give the groupies. Let's go
Speaker 1: down memory lane of quickly. Has to be pretty quick
Speaker 1: here on, we're on time. What's what's like a New
Speaker 1: Year's story that everyone's got? Well, Will wanted this segment,
Speaker 1: so I want to know what this one's about. Well,
Speaker 1: I I was in Times Square. No, did you wear
Speaker 1: a diaper? I hear people to do that. I walked
Speaker 1: I walked by it and all the people were in
Speaker 1: like the cages they have everyone in CA. That's why
Speaker 1: you have to wear a diaper. Yet when like, unfortunately
Speaker 1: all were forced in that moment to imagine Will wearing
Speaker 1: a diaper, Like, that's just not I'm sorry that I
Speaker 1: didn't want that. Yeah, No, it was great. We we
Speaker 1: had a we had a bar like that. We reserved
Speaker 1: a spot like our whole group, so we just walked
Speaker 1: through Times Square on the way to the bar in
Speaker 1: in like the village or whatever. It was awesome. And
Speaker 1: then getting to see that and then walk back through
Speaker 1: it at one am, it was like a war zone.
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, that's cool, right, I want to hear hi, Matt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have any great stories, so I just want
Speaker 1: to hear that. Yeah, Max and I are kind of that.
Speaker 1: It's not really last year. Me and my girlfriend at
Speaker 1: the time now she's my fiance, we didn't really know
Speaker 1: each other that well. We went to a bar and
Speaker 1: we were she was with her group of friends, I
Speaker 1: was with my group of friends and the floor was
Speaker 1: really wet and sticky at the same time. It was
Speaker 1: like one of those gross like college bars type things.
Speaker 1: So I'm belining across the bar to get um, get me,
Speaker 1: and I think one of my he's a drink and
Speaker 1: I go down at ninety miles just straight um, and
Speaker 1: I pop up real quick because I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: this girl that I was dating and I was crazy about,
Speaker 1: I was like, she cannot have just seen that. Luckily
Speaker 1: she didn't see it. But then later on I found
Speaker 1: out that she did the same thing that she went
Speaker 1: and felled ninety and then she she I didn't see it,
Speaker 1: which was unfortunate. I would have paid money to see that.
Speaker 1: But I thought that was funny. You guys asked me
Speaker 1: for a story. I don't have a lot of relatable
Speaker 1: that way, you guys can just relate on that. Guess.
Speaker 1: I've never had a New Year's kiss. There's a fun fact.
Speaker 1: I was dating a guy at a time. At a
Speaker 1: time I was with him, I just didn't kiss him
Speaker 1: in New Year's I just I don't know. For some reason.
Speaker 1: I was like, always it's birthdays and New Year's where
Speaker 1: you reevaluate your life, and I think that's what was
Speaker 1: happening with that relationship. Wow, So it didn't work out. No,
Speaker 1: that one didn't work out, So that one, that one
Speaker 1: did not work out. What's everyone doing tonight? Going back
Speaker 1: to Greenville, South Carolina? Same bar? Actually the same bar,
Speaker 1: same bar. That's a three year tradition. Now that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go out to a nice dinner, be
Speaker 1: a nice night at home afterwards with the wife and dog.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna make it to midnight? Tbd? Okay, what
Speaker 1: about you, I've got I've got some house party plans.
Speaker 1: Well that's exciting. Yeah, thanks for the invite. Yeah you're
Speaker 1: going to Greenville. Yeah, but I still would have liked
Speaker 1: the invite. I just want to I want to be
Speaker 1: It's a courtesy thing. It's okay what friends do. But
Speaker 1: I'm not coming, but it would have been nice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, man, I'm with you. I have plans,
Speaker 1: but I can't tell you about them until next week.
Speaker 1: Oiferlif hanger. So everyone have a wonderful Yeah I'm getting engaged. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not. But guys, hope you had a wonderful two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Thank you for letting us be a part
Speaker 1: of at least some of it. Twenty nineteen, of course,
Speaker 1: was a great year for all of us because the
Speaker 1: group chat started. This has been a really fun rides
Speaker 1: of twenty. We have a lot of fun and exciting
Speaker 1: things planned for you, starting with keeping our eye on
Speaker 1: this coaching search. The hope everyone has a great and
Speaker 1: safe nights and a great start to m WOW