1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome back to a another episode of 2 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Couch Talks. My name is Cat. Couch Talks is the 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: bonus episode that comes out every week of You Need Therapy, 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: where I answer listener questions that you, guys send me 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: directly to Catherine at You Need Therapy podcast dot com. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: So if you have a question, send it my way 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: to that email and hopefully I will get to it 8 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: at some point in my life. I answered two questions 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: each week, and so I do my best to get 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: two questions as fast as I can. And this week 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: we have two really great questions and I'm excited to 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: talk about. One is a question about mental health, and 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: then one is I guess it's also about mental health. 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: But then I have an Anagram question that I actually 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: reached out to Katie, who did our first Instagram episode 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I reached out to her 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: because she's an expert in the Instagram and I like 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: to go to the If there is an expert expert, 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: I like to go to that source. So then I 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: have her answer that question. So before we get to that, 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: I hope everybody is having a good week. It's Christmas week, 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: so if Christmas is something that you celebrate, there's probably 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: a lot of energy going around. I recorded a whole 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: intro to this about how it was Christmas Eve when 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: you were you would be Christmas Eve when you guys 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: were listening to this, and then you know, about a 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: week later, I'm like, oh, Christmas Eve is Thursday. This 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: comes out Wednesday. Therefore I have to redo that. So 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: here we are. I know that from me, Chris, the 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: week of Christmas is really exciting, and I get more 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: excited about the build up than the actual day. So 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to savor every single moment that I get 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: this week. And um, it took a couple of days 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: off of work, you know, getting a little crazy, doing 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: some self care. So I hope if you are somebody 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: who celebrates Christmas, that you are enjoying your week and 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: getting excited about what is to come, even though it's 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: gonna be real different this year. And you know, I 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: think that's the theme. It's going to be different this year. 40 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,639 Speaker 1: So the first question was an email that I got, 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: and in the beginning she just talked about how she's 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: loving the podcast and all that, and then she got 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: to this part that I'm going to actually share with you. 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: She writes. The reason I'm writing is because I would 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: like to learn more about the different personality disorders. I 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: find them fascinating. Is this something that you can talk 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: more about on the podcast? In particular, I've had a 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: couple of personal experiences with borderline and bipolar disorder. Also, 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: if you have any books to recommend on personality disorders, 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I would love to read more about it. Okay, So 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: I am so excited to talk about this because borderline 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: personality disorder and bipolar disorder get very confused for each 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: other very often. One is a mood disorder and one 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: is a personality disorder. A mood disorder has to do 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: with the chemicals in your brain right in your mood, 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: and a personality disorder is very different from that. There 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: are also multiple types of bipolar disorder. The main include 58 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: bipolar one and bipolar to one includes mania, which is 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: where you would hear somebody saying the word manic they're 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: acting manic. That's included in bipolar one. If you have 61 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: bipolar two, you don't experience mania. You experience something called hypomania, 62 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: which is a less severe version of mania. I'm not 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: going to go into all of the details of that, 64 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: because I don't think that that's super important for the 65 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: common everyday person to know. But I just want you 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: to know that there is a big difference between bipolar disorder, 67 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: the different types of bipolar disorder, and borderline personality disorder. 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: Borderline personality disorder is a personality disorder. It's most likely 69 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: formed through experiencing trauma, and I call the traits of 70 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: borderline personality disorder survival traits of trauma. They are essentially 71 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: things that we pick up from moving through trauma, and 72 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: it's to some extent it shows us some resilience. So 73 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: somebody who has borderline personality disorder, I like to describe 74 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: this in the way of emotional wounding and their ability 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: to withhold, in, withstand, and cope with emotions. So I 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: like to use the metaphor of burns, like third degree burn. 77 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: If you had a third degree burn on your arm 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: and it was open wound and I grabbed your arm, 79 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: you would probably scream and say, oh my god, Katherine. 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: You probably say some cuss words, and you would probably 81 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: want to punch me in the face, right, which makes 82 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: sense if you just were a normal person with a 83 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: normal arm, that didn't have any burns on it. And 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I touched your arm, you just would probably like cat's 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: touching my arm. You might wonder why I'm touching your arm, 86 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: but you wouldn't scream, probably, and it wouldn't hurt you, 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be extreme. Right. When somebody who has 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: borderline personality order, their ability to cope and withstand emotions 89 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: is just like that. So where everyday human that doesn't 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: have this personality disorder can't experience sadness or anger or 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: loneliness or hurt, and they experience it and it's not great, 92 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: but they have a tolerance to be able to sit 93 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: in it. Somebody with borderline personag disorder, they do not 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: have as much of a tolerance. So sadness feels like 95 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: the end of the world, or anger feels like the 96 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: end of the world. It's like somebody's touching them with 97 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: a third degree wound of an emotion, if that makes 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: any sense. And so it has a lot to do 99 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: with distress tolerance and their ability to cope and deal 100 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: with regulating their emotions. Again, a lot of that comes 101 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 1: from going through a traumatic event, a lot of times 102 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: having to do with some form of abandonment, whether it's emotional, spiritual, sexual, 103 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: any of that. So obviously these because we're talking about it, 104 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: these different things. Borderline personia disorder and bipolar disorder are 105 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: very different, yet they can look very similar. I think 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: a huge misconception with bipolar disorder is that people think 107 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: it's just rapid mood changes. That's not the case. You're 108 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: not going to be depressed one day and wake up 109 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: and be manic the next. That's more likely to look 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: like somebody with borderline personality sorder. Their moods can shift 111 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: a lot more quickly because of their inability to deal 112 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: with their emotions. So somebody with bipolar disorder is going 113 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: to have longer experiences of either emotion. And so I 114 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: just wanted to say that because I get really frustrated 115 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: when people are like, she's so bipolar, he's so bipolar, 116 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: and that's actually not what bipolar disorder looks like at all. 117 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: So all in that to say you can actually have 118 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: both of the same time. This kind of stuff requires 119 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: professional evaluation, med management with a professional and a good 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: amount of therapy. There's not enough information that I can 121 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 1: give someone on a podcast to help heal from either 122 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: of those or deal in quotes with somebody in your 123 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: life who has it. But I do think it's important 124 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: to talk about them and normalize them because both our 125 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: mental health disorders and things to be taken really seriously 126 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: and not made fun of and make light of, because 127 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: they're real things people deal with and they're not fun. 128 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: So if you know somebody who is struggling with any 129 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: of these, it can be super hard to be in 130 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: relationship with them. But to an extent, these people are 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: not choosing these symptoms, and so I do want to 132 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: offer some like love and empathy to people that are 133 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: struggling with these disorders. There is hope and people with 134 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: both of these bipolar disorder it can be managed with 135 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: medication and therapy. Now it might be hard to find 136 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: the right combination of different medications. It might take a 137 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: little bit to get to that, and it's it can 138 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: be really frustrating, but it's possible, and somebody with borderline 139 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: personality disorder, we can work through and and work on 140 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: some coping skills and and move through some myths and 141 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: some lies that lead them to believe the things and 142 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: experience life the way they experience it. It just takes 143 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: a lot of work, and it's it's really hard work too, 144 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: because again, that is a personality disorder that is a 145 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: result of usually some really tough trauma that somebody has 146 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: been through. You mentioned some book recommendations, and I have 147 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: a couple. There are two books that I think are 148 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: good when it comes to borderline personality so order. One 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: is I Hate You, Don't Leave Me. I have that 150 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: one in my office. Another one that's really popular is 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: called Walking on Eggshells. I actually haven't read that book, 152 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: so I can't vouch for it, but I have just 153 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: heard it a lot and some people have really liked it. 154 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: And then this isn't about borderline personality disorder, but since 155 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: we talked about narcissism recently, there's a book called The 156 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz and Other Narcissists, and that one is 157 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: really great to learn about narcissism, especially if it's with 158 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: somebody in your family. And then another book that I 159 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: think is great just when it comes to somebody who 160 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: was struggling with anybody who has some mental health struggles, 161 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: is this book called Codependency No More that helps us 162 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of remove ourselves from entangling ourselves into other people's 163 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: stuff and entangling other people into our stuff. So that's 164 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: just a good book to read. And codependency is a 165 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: whole another thing that we might talk about one day 166 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: on the show. Okay, now, our second question comes from 167 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: a listener, and I'm going to read you the question 168 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: that she sent me, and then I'm going to read 169 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: you Katie's response. Again. Kay D is the expert the 170 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: Anya Ram experts. She's also a licensed therapist in Tennessee. 171 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: So if you want to um do any work with 172 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: her as a therapist or some Instagram coaching, she could 173 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: do that as well. She actually also has a new 174 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: program coming out called The Practice that helps people dive 175 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: deeper into all of the things indiogram and all of that. 176 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: And so if you resonated with her on the episode 177 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: or the way she answered this question, reach out to her. 178 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: I'll tag her handle in the show notes anyway. So 179 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: this is from Katie and um, well, this is a 180 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: question and it reads good morning, cat. I have a 181 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: question for you about the Instagram conversation that you shared 182 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: last week, which I am so thankful for. I've been 183 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: hearing people's numbers for a long time, but this was 184 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: the first time I have had it explained you did 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: such a good job at educating well. Thank you, and 186 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: I think Katie for all of that. My question is 187 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: about my kids, ages thirteen and eleven. As you were talking, 188 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: I could hear traits of theirs in the in the 189 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: numbers and could get a sense for where they would 190 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: most likely land. However, it seemed like the were for 191 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: adults in our childhood and upbringing has a great impact 192 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: on the outcome. Can you clarify for me how much 193 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: of where you land on the instagram is nurture versus nature? 194 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: I asked because I want to understand if I can 195 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: use some of the work suggested with them, or if 196 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: it is way too soon for teaching techniques, or how 197 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: to understand why they do the things they do. Hopefully 198 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: this friendly makes sense. Thank you for everything you do. 199 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: It totally makes sense, which is why I wanted to 200 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: answer this the best way possible. So Katie wrote back, 201 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: this is such a great question. Here is my humble opinion, 202 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: and there are several I would argue that it's fifty 203 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: fifty nature versus nurture. Our personalities are still forming as 204 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: we move through adolescence. I define personality in a simplistic 205 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: way as the story we live out of. We are 206 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: very much still forming those stories in our early years. 207 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: Temperament is part of personality. We are born with a 208 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: temperament and that is absolutely at work from day one. 209 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: That said, I think it's tough to type youngsters at 210 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: that point, and prefer to do so around age eighteen. 211 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: I think it's very possible to observe which try ad 212 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: or intelligence center is dominant a bit younger, simply by 213 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: getting a sense of how our kids experience or move 214 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: through the world. Are they more of a feeler or 215 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: they more cerebral or more kinesthetic. Again, this is the 216 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: role in my opinion. There are exceptions. Some people believe 217 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: that you can tell what type of person is when 218 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: they're infants. I don't believe this, as they haven't had 219 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: any life experiences to shape them. The ego or survival 220 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: strategy for planet Earth, as I've heard it referred to, 221 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: hasn't had time to take shape. I hope this helps. Okay, 222 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: this is me talking now. I think that helps greatly, 223 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: and I totally would have answered this very similarly, but 224 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to get Katie's input and I am 225 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: so grateful Katie that you took time to send this 226 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: over to me and read that question and answer so concisely, 227 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: So thank you, and to the listener that send that in, 228 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: thank you for saying that in because I'm sure other 229 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: parents were wondering the same thing, or just anybody was 230 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: wondering that. So that concludes this episode of Couch Talks. Guys, 231 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed it. These both these questions were 232 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: amazing and I'm really glad that you guys sent them in. Again, 233 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a wonderful, wonderful Christmas if 234 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: you do celebrate Christmas, and if not, I just hope 235 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: you have a wonderful rest of your week. And on Monday, 236 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: I am excited because I am bringing back a guest 237 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: that I've had on before to talk about some things 238 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: as it pertains to the new year and what we 239 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: tend to do in the new year. So stay tuned 240 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: for that, and again, follow me on Instagram at at 241 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: cat dot de fata, and you can follow the podcast 242 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: at at Unied Therapy podcast. Always reach out. I love 243 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: hearing from you guys, and if you could give me 244 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: a Christmas present, I would love if you would scroll 245 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: to the bottom of Apple Podcasts and rate, subscribe and 246 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: comments on this podcast for me. When you guys do that, 247 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: that actually helps populate this so more listeners can see 248 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: it and it pops up on their screen and more 249 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: people have access to all of the great things that 250 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: we get to talk about on this show. So that 251 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: would be a great Christmas present. And you can combine 252 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: it with my birthday because my birthday was December four 253 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: and so you can give me like a big birthday 254 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: Christmas present. And uh, I'm gonna let you guys go now, 255 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: So Happy Wednesday, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. I won't say 256 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: Happy New Year yet because I will talk to you 257 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: guys next week. Bye.