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Speaker 1: Whoa, hey, everybody. It is Friday, March seventeenth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're open

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Speaker 1: to signing an offer sheet to me your man n

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Speaker 1: MG Marcus Grant alongside Michael F. Floria. We are at home.

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Speaker 1: We are doing this from our respective spaces today instead

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Speaker 1: of in the studio. And I guess first things first,

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Speaker 1: Happy Saint Patrick's Day and happy first weekend of the

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Speaker 1: NC two A tournament. It's it's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: right now. Man. Happy Saint Patrick's Day. One of my favorite,

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Speaker 1: low key, one of my favorite days of the year.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it always it always happens where like you

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Speaker 1: get a full day of tournaments usually on Saint Patrick's Day.

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Speaker 1: It's just such a fun day. And then you add

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Speaker 1: in the free agency and everything. It's it's been a

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Speaker 1: really fun week in the middle of March, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I can't complain, No, we got a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: It's been busy. I will admit a old disclosure that

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Speaker 1: as we record this on Friday morning, my USC Trojans

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Speaker 1: are playing against Michigan State in the first round of

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Speaker 1: the tournament. So I do have a screen that's on

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Speaker 1: that I will do my absolute best not to let

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Speaker 1: the goings on there in Columbus, Ohio affect my mood

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Speaker 1: as we go through this show, and it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a big, busy, loaded show that we have. This

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Speaker 1: is probably going to be an extra large version compared

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Speaker 1: to what we normally do this time of year because

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Speaker 1: since the last time we talked not so as you'd notice,

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Speaker 1: a lot of news has come down across the NFL.

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Speaker 1: There have been trades, there have been free agency signings,

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Speaker 1: there have been quarterbacks declaring where they might or might

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Speaker 1: not want to play. So we're gonna go over as

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Speaker 1: many of them as at least have any kind of

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Speaker 1: real fantasy implication. So scrap in if you've got a

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Speaker 1: long commute, or maybe break this up into a few pieces.

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Speaker 1: That might be sort of the best way to go

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Speaker 1: about it. I split this up into positions, So let's

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Speaker 1: start where we should always start with the quarterbacks. It

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Speaker 1: is the most important position on the field, so it

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Speaker 1: seems like a good place to go, And let's start

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Speaker 1: with what has been the biggest news. It appears, at

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Speaker 1: least for the moment, that our long national nightmare is

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Speaker 1: over or at least nearing a conclusion. Aaron Rodgers, after

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Speaker 1: philibustering for about twenty minutes on Pat McAfee's show, says

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Speaker 1: that he intends to play for the New York Jets. Actually,

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Speaker 1: he said he intends to play for the Jets, at

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Speaker 1: which point the NHL's Winnipeg Jets put out a really

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Speaker 1: fun tweet of Aaron Rodgers photoshop in a Winnipeg Jets sweater.

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Speaker 1: But he says he intends to play for the Jets. Now, Mike,

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Speaker 1: the next big thing is for the Jets and the

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Speaker 1: Packers to come to some sort of agreement on trade compensation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of arguing on Twitter about who

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Speaker 1: has leverage in this situation. For our purposes, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really matter for your purposes. You've been on NFL Network

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Speaker 1: quite a bit over the last few days, and it

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Speaker 1: seems as every time I turn it on and see

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Speaker 1: your face, you are talking about Aaron Rodgers. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to ask you all the same things that all

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Speaker 1: the hosts, whether it was Rhett Lewis or Mike Yam

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Speaker 1: or Colleen Wolf or whomever it may have been, We'll

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Speaker 1: ask you. Let's start with Aaron Rodgers in New York.

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Speaker 1: If this does actually come to pass, fantasy wise, what

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Speaker 1: are we looking at with Rogers wearing Jets green and white.

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Speaker 1: Is it much different than when he was wearing the

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Speaker 1: green and golden Green Bay. I don't think so. I

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Speaker 1: think his fantasy value kind of stays very similar. I

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Speaker 1: keep saying, I think there's the top eight quarterbacks he

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Speaker 1: undecided if last season was just the start of a

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Speaker 1: decline for Aaron Rodgers at almost forty years old, or

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Speaker 1: if it really was him playing his first year without

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Speaker 1: Devontae Adams and that broken thumb. So the upside is

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Speaker 1: higher than where you're going to be drafting him. It's

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Speaker 1: But draft wise, I keep saying I think he'll go

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Speaker 1: say the ninth round or something like that, Rogers is

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Speaker 1: probably a guy that you are targeting. As you mentioned

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Speaker 1: he can still make all the throws. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: there still no doubt about it. Now he goes to

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Speaker 1: but we know Garrett Wilson is there for sure, and

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Speaker 1: Wilson has been very vocal on social media expressing his

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Speaker 1: excitement over the idea of playing with Aaron Rodgers. For

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Speaker 1: all the great things Garrett Wilson did last year, and

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Speaker 1: kept saying was he really needs a consistent, higher level quarterback,

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Speaker 1: It appears that that guy is on his way to

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Speaker 1: the Big Apple. So with that being said again all

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Speaker 1: sides actually work out a trade, how are we gonna

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Speaker 1: have to reach to get Garrett Wilson next year? Probably

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Speaker 1: higher than people are anticipating. In I looked for fun

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Speaker 1: it's really seemed like Aaron Rodgers is going to be

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Speaker 1: a member of the New York Jets. On one very

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Speaker 1: popular Bestball site, his ADP is wide Receiver nine. He's

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Speaker 1: going as the fifteenth overall pick. I think the overall

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Speaker 1: but the upside is sky high. Like I don't think

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Speaker 1: Devantay Adams bucket yet just because that's that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: high bar to get to. But there is the potential

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Speaker 1: there's already a lot of excitement. I mean, the buzz

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Speaker 1: you are certainly talking about now reaching possibly into the

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Speaker 1: if Rogers does leave Green Bay, that creates a whole

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Speaker 1: different situation for the Packers. They have been waiting for

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Speaker 1: a few years to truly see what Jordan Love can be.

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Speaker 1: They haven't had the chance because they've had a Hall

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Speaker 1: First off, your expectations for Love. Is he a guy

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Speaker 1: Are we drafting Jordan Love? I wouldn't be maybe. I

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Speaker 1: What I keep saying is if you want to take

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Speaker 1: there is always upside in the unknown. But we truly

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Speaker 1: In so far in his NFL career, he's thrown eighty

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Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers took these shot of all shots the

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Speaker 1: that he was throwing a dig there for sure. But

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Speaker 1: he's not even quite a QB two. I mean he's going.

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Speaker 1: He's going after a trio of rookies, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, CJ.

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Speaker 1: So while Garrett Wilson has gotten the Aaron Rodgers bump,

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Speaker 1: the last year or two, they probably would have figured

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Speaker 1: they probably would have bent over backwards to keep Rogers

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Speaker 1: the point where they feel like Love is good enough

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the pieces though, that are left there.

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Speaker 1: and he was above average in a lot of regards

431
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: as the brown starter. That them not succeeding last season

432
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 1: was not on Jacoby Brissette, Like that's on the rest

433
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: of the roster as a whole. I would say Jacoby

434
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: greatly exceeded expectations. I think I also think whichever of

435
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: the two start for the Commanders will be a value

436
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: in fantasy. Not like you're gonna want to start Howel

437
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: or Jacoby brist but like they could be good QB

438
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: twos and super flex or good waiver wire guys because

439
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: both can give you sneaky points with their more. How

440
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: I think it gets overlooked as what he could do

441
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: with his legs. We've kind of seen Jacoby Brissette do it,

442
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: but both of them can give you points with their legs. Yeah,

443
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that's the thought there. Just

444
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: because the Panthers are going to take a quarterback at

445
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: number one, we're just waiting to see which one is

446
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: going to be, you know, in Indianapolis. I can't imagine

447
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: they are for real going to roll with with Gardner Minshew.

448
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: I think he is there potentially as you know, a

449
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: security blanket based on what they can do, whether or

450
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: not they trade up and get a quarterback, whether or

451
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: not they you know, I don't know if there's anybody

452
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: else worth signing at this point in free agency. I

453
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: think Brissette is probably going to be the guy. Now,

454
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: I would say, which, which guy do we want most

455
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: for fantasy though not necessarily because we're drafting them, but

456
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: because this guy's going to help out his supporting cast.

457
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: Is it still Jacoby Brissette or to be a guy

458
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: like Andy Dalton who wasn't terrible last year? No, he wasn't,

459
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: But I still think it's Jacoby Brissette for one reason

460
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: and one reason only. Terry McLaurin, we saw that this

461
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: past season. Jacoby Brissette was able to kind of help

462
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper have a resurgencey year after his down year,

463
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: his final year in Dallas, and it was because he

464
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: was able to win downfield. They were able to connect

465
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 1: on deep passes and in the red zone. We know

466
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: Terry mclauren could win downfield. He just needs a quarterback

467
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: that could get the ball in his general vicinity. Which

468
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: is why we all got so excited for Taylor Heineck

469
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: when he started last year, because he was selling shirts

470
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: that said, bleep it, Terry's open somewhere down there, Jacoby,

471
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: that's all you gotta do, man. And then you had

472
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: in the fact that they also have like John Dobson

473
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: who could win downfield. Jacoby Brissette, I think could could

474
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: help those guys more than he probably gets credit for it.

475
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think he's probably the best

476
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: of that bunch. I still would have liked to see

477
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: Washington maybe pursue Lamar Jackson. That's a whole other conversation

478
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: that we you know, I don't know that we can

479
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: get into because there's there's no actual news to talk

480
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: about other than he's been tagged teams can negotiate with him,

481
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: but until we get an idea of where he might go,

482
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: it's just sort of hard to talk about Jackson. But

483
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: I would have loved to see Washington pursue. We talked

484
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: about Atlanta and they completely backed out from the beginning.

485
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: All that was frustrating and confusing to me. I didn't

486
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: get it. But it could be that Jacoby Brissette is

487
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: probably the answer to all of our questions, at least

488
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to that trio of quarterbacks. Let's get

489
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: to running backs, because there's a lot. I know it's

490
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: funny because the running backs didn't happen immediately, but then

491
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: it all seemed to happen kind of at once, with

492
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: a lot of guys going to different places. So let's

493
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: start with some of the big news there. Austin Eckler

494
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: request permission from the Chargers to seek a trade. This

495
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: is a guy who has been a top level fantasy

496
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 1: running back for a last couple of years. In fact,

497
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: thirty eight touchdowns over the last two seasons. That is

498
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: first among all players in fantasy football in that stretch.

499
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: It's been great for him in Los Angeles. Can you

500
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: envision a spot that would be better for his fantasy

501
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: value than where he currently is. None that feel realistic.

502
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking through the list of teams right now,

503
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like Cincinnati, like that would be a boost,

504
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: But they're not realistically gonna go after Alston Eckler in

505
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: my opinion, So I personally am hoping that the Chargers

506
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: and Ekeler can reach an agreement here. One. I think

507
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: he's awesome as a person for fantasy everything. I love

508
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: having him play in LA But I just think it

509
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: brings certainty with his role in this offense. One, it

510
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: keeps together an offense that is very high powered for

511
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: fantasy purposes at least, and I think could be just

512
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: one of the best offenses in football. So, just because

513
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: if he goes elsewhere, then we're dealing with unknown a

514
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: new offense, I think Alston Eckler will be fine no

515
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: matter where he goes, because any team that you know

516
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: pays to get him is gonna make sure he gets

517
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: the ball plenty, especially as a receiver. But just for

518
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: peace of mind for fantasy, I would love for him

519
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: to stay with the Chargers. I think staying is the best.

520
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anywhere that makes him better.

521
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: I think you can go places that potentially kind of

522
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: leave him similar to where he is. I mean, I

523
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: think if somehow the Chiefs could figure out how to

524
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: make it work, right putting him in Kansas City, Isaiah

525
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: Pacheco becomes easily the number two in that offense. But

526
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that he gets better. Right, thirty eight

527
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the last two seasons, that's really hard to

528
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: improve upon. So I do think that staying in LA

529
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: is the best situation. Now we're talking fantasy. I know,

530
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: for Austin Eckler, this is this is a real life conversation, right,

531
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: This is about, you know, trying to figure out where

532
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: you can make the most money, where you can sort

533
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: of maximize your overall value. Because look, you and I

534
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: both know that he's a guy who already has his

535
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: eye on the future. He's already trying to figure out,

536
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: you know, what has moved after football are going to be,

537
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: whether it is as you know, a podcaster, whether it's

538
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: in business, what have you. You know, and he's got

539
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: to set himself up for that. But for our greedy, selfish,

540
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: fancy purposes, please Austin stay in Los Angeles. Make it

541
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: work here with the Bolts because we love it and

542
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: we love you and we love ourselves, so we're we're

543
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: being selfish here. The Cowboys have marked the end of

544
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: an era. They are going to let go of Ezekiel Elliott.

545
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: He's been marked with a post June first designation, so

546
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: it won't officially happen for a couple of months still,

547
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys have decided they tagged Tony Pollard. They

548
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: are moving on from Ezekiel Elliott. So we talked about

549
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: the first round and how it's likely to be pretty

550
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver heavy, but there are some running backs that

551
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: sneak into that first round. Is Tony Pollard one of them?

552
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: And how high do you think you have to reach

553
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 1: to get him? I certainly think that he could be

554
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: one of them. I think the locks are Christian McCaffrey

555
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: and Austin Ekeler, and then after that, I think it

556
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: kind of becomes a preference thing. But there's a group

557
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: of running backs that Tony Pollard's in for me at

558
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: least with Jonathan Taylor, sae Quon Barkley. You could put

559
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker in there if you want, and be Jean

560
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: Robinson would depend on landing spot and Josh Jacobs. To me,

561
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard goes in that group as the next running

562
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: backs off the board. I keep saying, you could make

563
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: the case to take him as high as RB three overall,

564
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: I think, but like if you trust say Quan or

565
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: Taylor or Josh Jacob's more, you're not going to really

566
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: hear much from me. I think that that's the second

567
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: tier of running backs, and he easily could go in

568
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: the first round. I think at the very worst case,

569
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: you get him early second round, no later than that.

570
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: So right now, Pollard is going off the board as

571
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: the RB twelve. But I feel like maybe the Zeke

572
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: move hasn't fully kicked in yet. I'm not sure because

573
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: I know how much everybody loved Pollard understandably last year.

574
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm surprise that it hasn't gone up at this point.

575
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: Side note, Bijean Robinson is RB four right now. It

576
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: is it is McCaffrey, it's Jonathan Taylor, it's Eckler, and

577
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: then it's Bijean Robinson. That is how much the fantasy

578
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: community loves Bijeon. It doesn't matter where he goes. People

579
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: are drafting him as a top five running back right

580
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: now that is incredible. I think some of that has

581
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: to do, by the way, with the fact that he's

582
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: being called a top ten talent. He's not gonna get

583
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: drafted top ten because that's just doesn't make draft sense

584
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: for NFL teams. But but the scouts say he is

585
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: that good, and fantasy drafters are taking that to heart

586
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: and drafting him accordingly. Um, where is the Cowboys draft him?

587
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: That is? That is that is the nuclear option for us.

588
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: Right if if Jerry Jones, which by the way, that

589
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: is the ultimate Jerry Jones move, right, wanting another top

590
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: level running back and getting the guy who plays his

591
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: college ball in the state of Texas, that is the

592
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: ultimate Jerry Jones maneuver, and that would nuke everything we

593
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: hoped and dream for both b Jehan Robinson and Tony Pollard.

594
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: I do think he gets his way into the top ten,

595
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: probably even top eight at some point before I hope

596
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: before we get to the season. I do. As for Zeke,

597
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: he's going to be a free agent. You know, obviously

598
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: had a good career in Dallas, was not the same

599
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: player of the last few years. What is his future

600
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's done. I think somebody signs him.

601
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, what's best case scenario for Zeke at

602
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: this point? I think best case scenario is I don't

603
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: think he's going to go anywhere that gave him as

604
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 1: much touches as Dallas did, even last year when he

605
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: was playing a reduced role, splitting it with Tony Pollard.

606
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I think he's going to come in be part of

607
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: a platoon share backfield with the obviously another back that's

608
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: more explosive, because that is not Zeke strength. At this point,

609
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: I think he'll be a short yardage back, a goal

610
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: on back, I know, like one he's been one of

611
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: the backs tied still to like the Buffalo Bills. Maybe

612
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: I could see him going to a situation like that,

613
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: to a team that they have maybe a young back

614
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: that they like or something like that, an explosive guy,

615
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: and then they just need someone to play like that

616
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: hammer role, kind of like what would I at least

617
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: think Deante Foreman was brought into the Bears to be.

618
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I think that could be the role that Zeke Elliott

619
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: still plays, right, I mean, I think he's a two

620
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: down back. He is potentially a short yardage guy. You know,

621
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: he can't catch the football, So hopefully that that helps

622
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: and he's able to get those opportunities. I also think

623
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: that it's going to be a situation where he's probably

624
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: gonna wait for a while. At this point, you know,

625
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the dominoes have fallen in terms of

626
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: free agent running backs. I think we're gonna wait to

627
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: see what happens in the draft and who drafts what um.

628
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: But I think he's going to find a home. I

629
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: still think he's you know, he's too talented to not

630
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: land somewhere. But it's definitely not going to be the

631
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: kind of role we were used to seeing with the

632
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys all those years. Twenty seven. It's so sad. Yeah, yeah,

633
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean life comes at you fast. So the top

634
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: three running backs in this class all got franchise tag

635
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: no real surprise, sa Kwon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard

636
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: all got hit with the franchise tag. They weren't going anywhere.

637
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: So the next top name on the board at the

638
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: position was Miles Sanders, and Sanders has agreed to a

639
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: deal with the Carolina Panthers, so he goes down there.

640
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: The Panthers decide to let go of Deonta Foreman who

641
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: goes to the Chicago Bears. So right now, Mike, it

642
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: looks like Sanders is the solid RB one. I don't

643
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: expect Chuba Hubbard to really eat into those opportunities a

644
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: whole lot. So how much does this change the way

645
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: you feel about Miles Sanders knowing that he could get

646
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: a shot, even if not a three down back, maybe

647
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: much more of a workhorse than he ever was in Philadelphi.

648
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: You yeah, I'm really I think Miles Sanders was the

649
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: biggest winner outside of maybe Tony Pollard this week at

650
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: the running back position. I thought Carolina was his ideal fit,

651
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: and for real life purposes and for fantasy, Like, for

652
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: real life, they're gonna have a rookie quarterback whoever they

653
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: take number one, likely starting, so he brings some big

654
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: playability there. He could ease the take a lot of

655
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: work off of the rookie shoulders, and for fantasy, they've

656
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: invested in him. So now, not only do I agree

657
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: with what you said where we could see him be

658
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: even more of a workhorse, I'm really hoping that we

659
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: see him used in the passing game again. He thrived

660
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: as a pass catcher as a rookie really struggled as

661
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: a sophomore, and then the Eagles just abandoned him using

662
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: him in the passing game. They liked Kenny Gainwell and

663
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: others more. The Panthers right now don't really have a

664
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: guy who could take a whole lot. I mean, maybe

665
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: true be Hubbard, but I don't think he's as big

666
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: of a dart as like Gainwell was in Phillies. So

667
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: I still think Miles Sanders, while I think he's a

668
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: lot more solid now as an RB two, I used

669
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: always have him as like a back end rby two.

670
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: He's a top twenty running back, but I think he

671
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: brings RB one upside. If the Panthers start throwing him

672
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: the ball more. I think that's the big things that

673
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: I want him to be more integrated into the passing game,

674
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: especially because they still need help catching the football. I mean,

675
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: the wide receivers don't really get you all that excited.

676
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking at Terrace Marshall junior right now,

677
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: is the top wide receiver there in Carolina. They did

678
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: at Haydon Hurst. We'll talk about that probably a little

679
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: bit later on, but they just need help catching the football.

680
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: So there's an opportunity for Miles Sanders to contribute in

681
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: that way, and if he can run the football the

682
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: way he did last year. Granted he's not going to

683
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: have the same level of offensive line in front of him,

684
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: so that's something to kind of keep in mind. But

685
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: if he can get you a portion of those touches,

686
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: if he can run the football even a portion as

687
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: well as he did last year, I think you're looking

688
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: at him as a strong RB two candidate coming up

689
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. Deontay Foreman, as I mentioned, he

690
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: does go to the Chicago Bears. There have been a

691
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: lot of excitement about Khalil Herbert and potentially what he

692
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: could do with the expectation that David Montgomery was gone.

693
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Does Deontay Foreman change your feelings about Khalil Herbert at all?

694
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: How are you looking at this backfield? Yeah, he definitely

695
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: takes some shine off of Khalil Herbert because one like

696
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: I expect Khalil Herbert to still leave this backfield. They

697
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: also brought in Travis Homer, who could take past game

698
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: usage away. That's my biggest fear is that this becomes

699
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: a three person backfield where Deonta Foreman is using is

700
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: getting a lot of goal on work because he's built

701
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: like a tank. If they're gonna use him anywhere, I

702
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: would imagine they're thinking short yardage stuff. And then if

703
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: Travis Homer's taken away like third down in two minutes,

704
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: even if it's just some of them, that's gonna really

705
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: lower the floor and ceiling for Khalil Herbert. Plus, it's

706
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: not out of the range of possibilities that Deontay Foreman,

707
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: who's a very good running back in his own right,

708
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: just outperforms Khalil Herbert, or at the worst, plays well

709
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: enough where it becomes a fifty fifty split on the ground.

710
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: Or I could also see it being like in Carolina,

711
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: where there were some weeks where down to Foreman ran

712
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: great and they would just give him all the work,

713
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: and then there's other weeks where he would struggle and

714
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: the game script would get away from him a little bit,

715
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: and then he would completely vanish. So I think this

716
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: brings a lot more uncertainty to this Bear's backfield. I

717
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: think Khalil Herbert stays in the range is like kind

718
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: of a low end RB two. There's more upside with him,

719
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: but there's also a lot more downside now as well.

720
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: The other part that you didn't mention is that Justin

721
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: Fields is still going to run the phone. Yeah, and

722
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he doesn't run it quite as much,

723
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: but obviously that's a big part of his game, and

724
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: that is what makes him successful. That's what makes the

725
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Bears offense go to some extent. So that's going to

726
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: take some opportunities away from either Foreman or Herbert. You know,

727
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what they do with Travis Homer,

728
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: if they actually are sort of using him as a

729
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: pass catching back or if he's just there more for

730
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: insurance purposes, because that also is going to have an

731
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: impact on what happens with Herbert. But I'm sort of

732
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: with you. I feel like last year we had a

733
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: sense of how they were going to use their backs

734
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: between Montgomery and Herbert. Now we go into this sort

735
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: of try to figure this all out again, because it

736
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: seems like each guy has a very specific set of

737
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: skills and it could be a situation where they all

738
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: sort of take off each other's plate and we end

739
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: up being unsatisfied with each and every one of those guys.

740
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Over to Philadelphia, Miles Sanders, we mentioned goes down to Carolina.

741
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: There leaves an opening there in the Philly backfield, and

742
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: it was filled pretty quickly by Rashad Penny. Simple equation

743
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: Mike when he has been on the field, he has

744
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: been really dynamic. We saw it at the start of

745
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: last season. But dot dot dot can he stay healthy?

746
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: So with that being said, how do you approach Rashad

747
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: Penny and fantasy drafts. I'm really excited about Rashad Penny.

748
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: I said that I think Miles Sanders and Tony Pollard

749
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: were the big two winners. I would put Rashad Penny third.

750
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: I think he can be everything that Miles Sanders was

751
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: for this Philly offensive year ago. A great explosive runner

752
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: between the tackles, not a whole lot of usage in

753
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the passing game. It's just a matter of if and

754
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: how long he can stay on the field. But on

755
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: a per touch, per game basis, he'll be just as good,

756
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: if not better, I think, than Miles Sanders. He's averaged

757
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: over six yards per carry each of the last two seasons.

758
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: The thing, though, is with all of his injury concerns

759
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: like last year, people were like, Okay, maybe we'll give

760
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: him a pass. It wasn't you know, he's going to

761
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: get a chance to leave this backfield in Seattle and

762
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: he's really explosive. And even then he was going as

763
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: an RB three. So I think this year, with him

764
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: getting hurt again last year, RB three is probably the

765
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: highest price I think you're gonna have to pay. So

766
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: if you're talking about being able to get him and

767
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: say like the six seventh rounds something like that, I'll

768
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: draft him there all day. And I wouldn't be surprised

769
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: if it's even a little bit of a bigger discount,

770
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: because no one wants touch the running back that is

771
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: two injury prone. I'll take him for as many games

772
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: as he could give us. Right now, he's the RB

773
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: thirty eight, and I feel like that's going to change,

774
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: that's not going to last. But he's going behind Kenneth

775
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Gainwell at the moment. I mean some of the guys

776
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: going ahead of him, Kenneth Gainwell, AJ Dillon, Brian Robinson,

777
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, Rashad White, Khalil Herbert, these are some of

778
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: the names going ahead of Rashad Penny. And I think

779
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: it is sort of that injury concern. I saw some

780
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: people basically saying, look, I'll draft Rashad Penny and basically,

781
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: if I can get ten to twelve touches a game

782
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: from him behind that offensive line with Jalen Hurts, that

783
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: there's the expectation that he can be explosive and productive.

784
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: But everybody does have that concern. If you're drafting Penny,

785
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: you are drafting other running backs because you know you

786
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: would be foolish not to at least get yourself some

787
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: sort of insurance policy just because history has shown he

788
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to stay on the field long term.

789
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: David Montgomery is gone. DeAndre formative in Chicago. David Montgomery

790
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: stays in the division going from Chicago to Detroit. That

791
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: first off, that every made everybody worried about Jamal Williams.

792
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Williams in a second. I looked at

793
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: this and I said, oh, no, DeAndre Swift because he

794
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: was so good last year. And I know Williams got

795
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: a lot of short yardage and a lot of goal

796
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: line work, That's how he scored the touchdowns. But this

797
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: makes me really really worried about DeAndre Swift. How how

798
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: are you feeling about that? I'm worried about Swift and

799
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: David Montgomery. Montgomery last year was one of the least

800
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: explosive running backs in football. He had the lowest hot

801
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: top speed of any running back with a hundred touches,

802
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: So not a whole lot there, at least in terms

803
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: of big playability. I will admit he gets a huge

804
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: offensive line upgrade. But what David Montgomery did best, at

805
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: least for fantasy purposes, and what DeAndre Swift does best

806
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: is both catch passes. Like they're both good pass catchers

807
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: out of the back field. So if they're both here,

808
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm worried because I would anticipate David Montgomery being used

809
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more on the ground, and if Swift

810
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: is being unused more in the passing game, I think

811
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: that hurts David Montgomery. I think it hurts Deantre Swift

812
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: to give up carries. I don't know. I kind of

813
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: came away from this being like they're both kind of

814
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: like low end RB two's to me. But I'm not

815
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: really bullish about drafting either because neither one of them

816
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: is going to score the seventeen touchdown, said Jamal Williams

817
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: did a year ago. That's a big issue. I know

818
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: there are a lot of I saw a stat that

819
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: I think the Lions have the most carries inside the

820
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: five that were vacated, and you know, there's talk that

821
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: a lot of that could go to David Montgomery, and

822
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: I think it will. They're so different, the two of them.

823
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: Montgomery is kind of a plotter. He doesn't really make

824
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: guys miss. He is gonna be the guy I would

825
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: think gets a lot of those short guardage touches. Swift

826
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: potentially is explosive. I mean, this was a guy who

827
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: was I think RB twenty one last year and he

828
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: did it with fewer than one hundred and fifty touches,

829
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: So he was very efficient with his opportunities. He's going

830
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: to have to be that again because I don't think

831
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of touches coming with a

832
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: guy like Montgomery there. And I think you spoke to

833
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: a big point because Montgomery catches the football that takes

834
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: away a lot of what makes DeAndre Swift valuable. So

835
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: this makes me really nervous for a guy that I

836
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: thought had a lot of upside and maybe he loses

837
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: some of that because of the guy that they brought

838
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: in to take over for Jamal Williams. Williams does leave

839
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Detroit and he goes down to New Orleans signs a

840
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: three year deal with the Saints. My first thought is

841
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: this signals that New Orleans has concerns about what Alvin

842
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: Kamara's availability is going to be. He has a legal case,

843
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: a court case that is scheduled I believe for July,

844
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: so there's a trial pending, and then everybody's expecting some

845
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: sort of NFL discipline to come down after that. How

846
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: worried should we be Obviously neither one of us are lawyers,

847
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: but just sort of base on NFL president. How worried

848
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: should we be about Kamara's availability next year? I definitely

849
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: think worried. I think that this signing was the Saints

850
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 1: covering themselves in case a suspension comes down. How long

851
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: it will be we'd have to see. But and then

852
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: I think, let's say there's no suspension, or it's only

853
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: a couple of games something like that, just like if

854
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: they're both on the field at the same time. I

855
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: think then we go to kind of how this Saints

856
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: backfield has spent for a while where Alvin Kamara is

857
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: like kind of that lead guy, but they split the

858
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: groundwork and Jamal Williams is like the new mark Ingram.

859
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: I could see the backfield kind of being split that way.

860
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: Whether he missed his time or not. Alvin Kamara is

861
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: no longer an RB one in my opinion. I think

862
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: he could be a very solid RB two, and I

863
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: think Jamal Williams is more of an RB three or

864
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: a guy that you draft us like a backup running back.

865
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: But I think he's one of the absolute very best

866
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: handcuffs in the game and will outperform his draft slot

867
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: on weeks, probably the weeks where he scores a touchdown.

868
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's certainly. Hey, if we were

869
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: asking me the draft right now, I'd probably wouldn't touch

870
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara. Yeah, I would. I would wait a while

871
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: on Camara. I think one the legal situation, which is

872
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: concerning not knowing how many games he could miss, and

873
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe he misses no time, but certainly signs

874
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: point toward him having to sit out at least a

875
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: number of games. The other part of this is who

876
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: his quarterback is now, and Derek Carr not known as

877
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: a guy who heavily targets running backs. He did a

878
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: little bit, but Josh Jacobs really wasn't until the last

879
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: year or two that he actually started catching the football

880
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. So much of Camara's fantasy value is

881
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: predicated on him being a pass catcher, and if he's

882
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: not getting those opportunities. Added to the fact that now

883
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: it looks like Williams is going to get a lot

884
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: of that goal line work, it just feels like the

885
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: value is going to fall off a cliff for Alvin

886
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Kamara come this season. And then Versam j p Rhyme

887
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: signs h two year deal with the Broncos, and I

888
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: think a lot of us were sort of excited potentially

889
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: about what Javontay Williams could be. Then he had that awful,

890
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: awful knee injury, and there hasn't been a lot of

891
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: chatter about his progress. Yeah, there's been positive signs, but

892
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, there's a range of outcomes that goes from

893
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: somehow he's ready for Week one two, he could miss

894
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: a significant amount of time again this season. Does this

895
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: signing signal that we should sort of expect the worst

896
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: for Javontay Williams. I don't think so. I think this

897
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: is the Broncos kind of covering their bases a bit.

898
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: If they went out and you know we're paying Miles

899
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: Sanders or something like that, I'd be more worried. Pete

900
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Ryan is a very good backup, but that's kind of

901
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: what he is like he I don't think he's gonna

902
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: come in here and steal the job from Javanti Williams.

903
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: More So, I think it gives them early season insurance

904
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: in case Javantis and ready to start the season, or

905
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: even more so, which I think seems very likely, like

906
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: Javonty is gonna need to be ease back into things.

907
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be Week one or this season touching

908
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: the ball twenty twenty five times. So now you have

909
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: another capable running back, and let's not forget that's kind

910
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: of what they wanted with Javontay Williams with Melvin Gordon

911
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons. So as long as Samange

912
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: p Ryan isn't taking the valuable touches away from Javontay Williams,

913
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: the goal line, touches, the pass game usage, and as

914
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: long as Javansay is still seeing a healthy workload, I

915
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: think he can be a really really good fantasy asset.

916
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: And p Ryan, though I would say we already know

917
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: this from years with him and mixing one of the

918
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: better backups and someone that it doesn't hurt to have

919
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: on your bench in fantasy, right, I mean, he does

920
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: feel like an insurance policy. I think hopefully the best

921
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: case scenario is that Williams is back at least early

922
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: in the season, early enough that we can get some

923
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: sort of value out of him, because obviously we loved

924
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: what he could be. He right now is the RB

925
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: twenty one, so that I think suggest that people have

926
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: some sort of hope that we'll see a significant amount

927
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: of him during the season. I can't imagine p Ryan

928
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: getting a large workload. That feels sort of like worst

929
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: case scenario for the Broncos if we see p Ryan

930
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: getting a ton of snaps and a ton of touches,

931
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: So hopefully, fingers crossed, we see some Javata Williams early

932
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: on in the season for Denver. In New England, James

933
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: Robinson gets a two year deal from the Patriots. Obviously,

934
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: it's Romandre Stevenson seasonson. It was last year and expected

935
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: to be the same again this year. Does Robinson get

936
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: a decent workload or is he again sort of an

937
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: insurance policy? For New England. I didn't really get this

938
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: signing at all. I was maybe James Robinson could become

939
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: what he was pre Achilles injury, but last season was

940
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: rough for James Robinson, and to me, I look at

941
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: it as a good thing from Romandre Stevenson, Like I

942
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: think James Robinson is a not as good version of

943
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Damien Harris. Like he's a little bit better as a

944
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: pass catcher, but like he's kind of a between the

945
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: tackle runner. He's not really explosive. He didn't have much

946
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: explosiveness at all last season. So I think this kind

947
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: of made me like Romandre Stevenson even more, Like if

948
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: they signed Damien Harris, I'm a little bit more concerned

949
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: right now then if it was James Robinson. Robinson, remember

950
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: last year started on fire, Like the first couple of

951
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: weeks he looked amazing and we were, you know, wondering,

952
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: like what achilles injury, and then it sort of all

953
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: fell apart and Travis Etn took over and then eventually

954
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: Robinson wasn't there anymore. It just it just went badly

955
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: for him. So I'm not optimistic. Maybe a year removed,

956
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: we'll see a little bit more out of Robinson, but

957
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: this is Romandre Stevenson's backfield without a doubt. Last piece

958
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: of running back news, the Dolphins came into this offseason

959
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: saying they wanted to make a splash. They wanted to

960
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: upgrade their running back room, and when the dust settles,

961
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna look exactly the way it did last year.

962
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson ready, most Miles gas him all re up

963
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: with Miami. I mean not that these guys are bad.

964
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: We we sort of know who they are. Which which

965
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: guy has the most upside? Which guy are you most

966
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: willing to maybe take a shot at here? It's between

967
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: Wilson and Mostard. I'll go with Wilson because he played

968
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: more of the two last year and was use a

969
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: little bit more in the passing game. But the correct

970
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: answer might be whichever running back they draft, because they

971
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: have to add at least one more piece to this

972
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: running back room. Might imagine you would think so. I mean,

973
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: the running game was fine for Miami. It wasn't special.

974
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: I think there were times that it would have behooved

975
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: them to have a little stronger running game than what

976
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: they had. I think, especially when you get to the

977
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: playoffs and late in the season, and the playoffs, and

978
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: you're playing Skyler Thompson out there. I think it would

979
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: have been nice to have, I think, a more productive

980
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 1: running game than what they actually had. I really thought

981
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: they were going to make a big run at somebody

982
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: and maybe, look, maybe once the top three guys all

983
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: got franchise tag, maybe the Dolphins felt like they were

984
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: sort of out. But I would have loved to see

985
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: a Miles Sanders head down there, you know, just just anybody. Look,

986
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: I know, Devin Singletary I think is still out there.

987
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: I was just surprised that in the end they just

988
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: went back to the same three guys that they already had.

989
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: So I'm not super fired up about anybody in that

990
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: Miami backfield. Super unlikely, but Bejon I keep saying he

991
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: would be a great fit there if they could find

992
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: a way to get the capitol to get him. But

993
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: it's very unlikely. But it seems Yeah, it seems unlikely,

994
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: but you know, who knows. Weirder things certainly have happened.

995
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: This has been a beefy show and we are just

996
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: about halfway done. We'll take a quick break, we'll come back.

997
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: We will talk pass catchers, wide receivers and tight ends

998
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: because some of those guys have made some moves as well.

999
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: Stick around for more on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast,

1000
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: talking about free agency and sort of recapping a lot

1001
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: of the big things that have happened in the last

1002
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: week or so. And one of the bigger moves actually

1003
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: happened last week about this time. The Chicago Bears made

1004
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: a deal to trade away the number one overall pick

1005
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: in this year's draft. They trade it to the Carolina Panthers.

1006
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: In exchange, they get a handful of picks back, and

1007
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: they get wide receiver Dj Moore. One of the things

1008
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: we had said continually about the Bears offense last year

1009
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: is that they needed a pass catcher. There is no

1010
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: doubt that justin fields, maybe he is the biggest winner

1011
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: in this whole thing. He's the guy that gets the

1012
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: guy that gets the help he needs in terms of

1013
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. But for Dj Moore, I mean he

1014
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 1: gets out of a kind of a bad situation there

1015
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: in Carolina. What does this mean though, for his fantasy ceiling?

1016
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: When he's playing Mike with a quarterback that we think

1017
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: has potential but generally is still unproven. I think Dj

1018
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: Moore kind of comes in the same fantasy value wise,

1019
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: like we always hear that he has wide receiver one

1020
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: upside and yet his highest finishes Wide receiver sixteen. I

1021
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: kind of think he'll be a wide receiver two with

1022
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: Justin Fields again this year, a very solid one who

1023
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: will certainly have wide receiver one weeks. But for the ceiling,

1024
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: I think it's higher than it's been because Justin Fields

1025
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: has a lot more upside, I would say, than the

1026
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that DJ Moore has been playing with in the

1027
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: past years. That's what it's going to come down to.

1028
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: If Justin Fields takes that next step as a passer,

1029
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: DJ Moore can have his best season fantasy season yet

1030
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: so far this year. If Justin Fields kind of stays

1031
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: where he is, or maybe only takes a little bit

1032
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: step forward, he'll probably be around the same. The only

1033
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: fear I have for DJ Moore is if Justin Fields

1034
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: really struggles, if the Bears has abandoned the past like

1035
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: they did last year. But I think them going out

1036
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: and acquiring you know, DJ Moore and Chase Claypool in

1037
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: the last couple of months, was them kind of indicating like, no,

1038
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: we know we need to pass the ball more. I

1039
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: think they realize that they've got to throw the ball

1040
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: more and throw it more effectively. And here's the thing.

1041
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: They have the number nine pick, that's what they got

1042
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: from Carolina, part of the package they got from Carolina.

1043
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: There's a legitimate shot at them drafting a wide receiver

1044
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: at that spot. There's talk that maybe they go after

1045
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba from Ohio State, who right now

1046
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: is the number one wide receiver on the board for

1047
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: a lot of scouts. So there's certainly an idea that

1048
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: they get more help. But as for DJ Moore, I'm

1049
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: not gonna say that this is the best quarterback he's

1050
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: ever played with. Right as a rookie, he did get

1051
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: healthy Cam Newton. Beyond that, though, it hasn't been great.

1052
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: It's been Kyle Allen, it has been you know, Teddy Bridgewater,

1053
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: who is fine. It has been Sam Darnold. I mean,

1054
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: it hasn't been a great group of quarterbacks that he

1055
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: has played with after that rookie year. So there is

1056
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: I think more optimism with who he's playing with now,

1057
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: But I do think it would be foolish to draft

1058
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: him as anything more in sort of a high, maybe

1059
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: to mid wide receiver. Two for twenty tw three, the

1060
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: Raiders mentioned that they went out and signed Jimmy Garoppolo.

1061
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: They also got him a little bit of extra help.

1062
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: They signed Jacoby Myers. And I didn't completely understand this

1063
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: because Myers was a guy who excelled from the slot

1064
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: last year, the last couple of years in New England.

1065
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: They've already got Hunter Renfro, who's done a pretty good

1066
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: job as a slot receiver there in Vegas. We know

1067
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: Davanta Adams is going to get a ton of targets

1068
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: for Myers. What's the ceiling now with the Raiders. I

1069
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: think he's kind of the same of what he was

1070
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: with New England. Like he always had a round to

1071
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 1: twenty percent targets share with the Patriots. I don't see

1072
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: how it's gonna get a whole lot higher than that

1073
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, Like Devantay Adams is gonna, you know,

1074
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: command close with thirty percent targets share. Probably then you

1075
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: have a Hunter Renfro, Myers, Josh Jacobs, So I kind

1076
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: of think he stays the same. I'm not really I've

1077
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: never had been. I thought Jacoby Myers was the top

1078
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: wide receiver in this dat class more so because it's

1079
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: a weak draft class. But I'm sorry free agency class.

1080
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: But I've never been super bullish about Myers in fantasy.

1081
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: I think he's always like a reliable wide receiver three

1082
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: who will outperform that some weeks, and that's kind of

1083
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: what I think he still is with the Raiders. I'm

1084
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: not I'm not going to be somewhat like bullish to

1085
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: try to draft Jakobe Myers this year. I wanted to

1086
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: see where he would go if he had a chance

1087
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: to maybe play. I think he gets a quarterback upgrade,

1088
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: however slight. It may be from Mac Jones to Jimmy Garoppolo,

1089
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: but he's in a situation where he's number one. He's

1090
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: not the number one target by far, because I look

1091
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks he's played with, and his rookie year

1092
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: was Tom Brady's last year in New England. You know,

1093
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: he was just sort of getting his feet wet. He

1094
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: was undrafted. It wasn't like they were really relying on

1095
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: him in any major way. After that, it hasn't been great.

1096
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: I mean it's been you know, it's it's been Mac

1097
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: Jones the last couple of seasons. I wanted him to

1098
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: get into a better situation. I don't think this is

1099
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: a great situation for him. I think he's kind of

1100
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: a nice additional piece for the Raiders, and I don't

1101
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: think it helps his fantasy value at all. I think

1102
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: he's still a kind of a, as you said, a

1103
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver three. Maybe I thought there was more hope

1104
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: for him, but it depended on the landing spot, and

1105
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a great landing spot for him.

1106
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: The other part that was confusing is that the Patriots

1107
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: decided they weren't gonna pay Jacoby Myers, but they will

1108
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: pay Juju. Smith Schuster gets a three year deal thirty

1109
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: three million dollars. So maybe it's just that they think

1110
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: more of Juju than they did of Myers. Smith Schuster

1111
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: was fine with Kansas City last year. I don't think

1112
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: he was what we hoped he would be when he

1113
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: first signed with the Chiefs. He goes to New England

1114
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: where he becomes their wide receiver one. Essentially, how much

1115
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: does this help his fantasy value? I'm out on Juju

1116
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: because I still anticipate him going around similar to where

1117
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: he went last year. Orderline top thirty wides, you know,

1118
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: like a wide receiver three in that range, and I

1119
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: wanted to be out on him last year, and if

1120
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: he signed anywhere but the Chiefs, I would have been.

1121
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: But I was like, he's playing with Patrick Mahomes and

1122
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: Andy Reid on a team that needs wide receiver production.

1123
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: Someone is step up opposite of Travis Kelsey. And then

1124
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: Juju did what Juju always does. He's less than a

1125
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: thousand yards, a handful of touchdowns, solid wide receiver three.

1126
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: But again he did that with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid.

1127
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: Now he's going to a team that's gonna throw the

1128
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: ball less. Going from Andy Reid calling plays to Bill O'Brien,

1129
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: going from catching passes from Patrick Mahomes to Mac Jones.

1130
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna take more than even maybe a slight bump

1131
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: in target share for me, for Juju to really exceed

1132
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: that value. So I think a good real like he

1133
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: could help the Patriots in real life. And then the

1134
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: Patriots also brought in Mike Kasecki, who operates best out

1135
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: of the slot, which is where Juju operates. I know

1136
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that more for Kasecki later, but

1137
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out on Juju the shoe and fantasy.

1138
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: I'll let other people draft him. I just I do

1139
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a wash, right, because he's in

1140
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: a situation where they are going to rely on him

1141
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: more heavily. But as you mentioned, the offense isn't going

1142
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: to be as good, the quarterback isn't going to be

1143
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: as good. So in the end, I actually think his

1144
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: target numbers are going to be about the same. I

1145
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: think his catches, his yards, I think all that is

1146
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: going to be about the same. Because you know, again

1147
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: the I would rather be say a wide receiver too,

1148
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: or a second or third option with Patrick Mahomes than

1149
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: to be a top option with Mac Jones. I think,

1150
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: I just you know, I was just surprised mostly at

1151
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: the way the Patriots sort of handled the situation. Yeah,

1152
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know this. Juju has shown that

1153
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: that one big year he had back in twenty eighteen

1154
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: very much the outlier in his career. He had fourteen

1155
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: hundred yards, has not had another thousand yards season since

1156
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: that time. If you were able to like men in

1157
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: Black that season, away from our memories, we would view

1158
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: Jujuice Chooster a whole lot differently. As a community, I think, Yeah,

1159
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: although I think I think now we've started to realize,

1160
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think we've all sort of

1161
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: come to the realization that the guy we have been

1162
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: seeing the last few seasons, yeah, that that really is Juju. Um.

1163
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: I just remember thinking that it seemed like seems like

1164
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: sour grapes when Antonio Brown was taking shots at him

1165
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: on social media. It just seemed like it was, you know,

1166
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: ab being weird and doing ab things. But um, he

1167
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: might be crazy. He wasn't wrong, that's all you think.

1168
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: Do you think Bill Belichick knows what TikTok is? If

1169
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: he didn't, he'll find out in short order. He will

1170
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: find out. Here's the thing I mean. I was able

1171
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: to do a digital show with Patrick Claibon and Greg

1172
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 1: Rosenthal earlier in the week, and Patrick made a point,

1173
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: Like both Patrick and Greg made good points. One, for

1174
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: all these social media stuff that people talk about with Juju,

1175
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: you can never say that he doesn't at least take

1176
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: the game seriously. When he suits up and is between

1177
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: the lines, he goes out and he plays hard. I

1178
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: don't think any body can ever argue that. And in

1179
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: the end, the TikTok stuff doesn't really matter. It's like

1180
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: when they're winning When teams are winning, nobody cares that

1181
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: you're on TikTok. It only becomes an issue when teams

1182
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: start losing, and then it becomes an easy thing to

1183
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: poke at. So I think I think Belichick and Juju

1184
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: will figure out a way to coexist and they'll be fine.

1185
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the AFC East, the Jets are signing Alan Lazar.

1186
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: There was much talk about whether or not Aaron Rodgers

1187
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: asked for this sort of thing to happen if he

1188
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: wanted some of the same guys around him. We know

1189
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson's going to be fine, He's not going anywhere.

1190
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: But there's some other guys there, Elijah Moore, Corey Davis,

1191
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: who ends up being the odd man out because not

1192
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: all these guys can prosper, not all these guys can

1193
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: even stay in New York. Who ends up losing here.

1194
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: I think Corey Davis will end up being either included

1195
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: in the trade or a cap casualty, because I know

1196
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: they can get away from a lot of his salary.

1197
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be surprised if Lajah Moore, who was

1198
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: sending off some football tweets about like stuff not always

1199
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: going the way you envisioned it. I wouldn't be surprised

1200
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: if he is included as part of the trade for

1201
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers something like that. I think two, even if

1202
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,919
Speaker 1: they're all there, I think the two wide receiver sets

1203
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: will be Garrett Wilson and Alan Lazard. But really for fantasy,

1204
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm not very excited about Alan Lazard. It's Garrett Wilson

1205
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: and maybe if if Elijah Moore was able to see

1206
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: the field more consistently, I'd be in on him. But

1207
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard in a year where he was supposed to

1208
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: be Rogers number one, finished as a wide receiver thirty five,

1209
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: didn't get eight hundred yards and vanished really or faded

1210
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: hard when Christian Watson emerged. So I kind of think

1211
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: it's it's Garrett Wilson or bust. With the Jets receivers.

1212
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: We know who Alan Lazard is now. I mean, last

1213
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: year was supposed to be the year. If there was

1214
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: ever a year that he became something greater, it was

1215
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: going to be last year, and as you said, it

1216
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: didn't happen. So you know what last year career high

1217
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: but seven hundred eighty eight yards, six touchdowns, sixty catches.

1218
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's fine, it's not special. I don't think

1219
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: that's going to get any better, especially as you mentioned,

1220
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: with Garrett Wilson being the guy who's going to be

1221
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: the lead receiver there in New York. Michael Thomas is

1222
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: back with the Saints for a one year deal. I

1223
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: guess the biggest thing is Mike. Can he stay healthy?

1224
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna have to spend a lot

1225
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: in drafts to get him if he stays healthy, though,

1226
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: Can he start to look like I don't want to

1227
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: say slant boy, but the guy who was such a

1228
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: fantasy monster earlier in his career. I don't know if

1229
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: he can look like that guy, but I do think

1230
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: he can be a really useful fantasy piece. Like, yeah,

1231
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: he only played three games last year, but he averaged

1232
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: seventeen fantasy points per game in them. He seems like rejuvenile,

1233
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: like rejuvenated a little bit by this Derek car signing.

1234
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: Apparently that's the quarterback that he wanted to play with,

1235
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: which makes me wonder why so many high end receivers

1236
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: want Derek carrs their quarterback. But I think with Chris

1237
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: olav taking so much defensive attention away there that Michael

1238
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: Thomas is going to be useful when he's on the field.

1239
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Last season in drafts, he was

1240
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: going in like the mid thirties at wide receiver. Right now,

1241
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: in early best ball, he's fifty one fifty first off

1242
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: the board. I'm probably gonna say he goes somewhere in

1243
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: the middle of that, somewhere in the forties. But at

1244
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: that point you're talking about him being like your first

1245
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: bench receiver. That to me seems like an upside shot

1246
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: worth taking. That's the thing, is that, right now, what

1247
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: the asking price is for Michael Thomas, why not take

1248
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: the shot on it, just because if he comes back

1249
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: to any sort of form, right if he can take

1250
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: what he did at the start of last season and

1251
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: stretch that out over not even seventeen games, let's say

1252
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: he does that over thirteen or fourteen games, I think

1253
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: it's well worth the asking price there. So we'll see

1254
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: what Michael Thomas can be for the Saints. I think

1255
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: it's a very low risk move. I think for fantasy

1256
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of risks. Maybe a lot

1257
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: more upside involved depending on what he has left in

1258
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: the tank. As I was talking, I was like, he

1259
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: could be this year's Tyler Lockett potentially. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, man,

1260
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 1: if he could be Tyler Lockett, that'd be amazing. I'd

1261
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: take that all day. Black. It was a guy that

1262
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: I drafted a lot last year because as much as

1263
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: we were worried about him, I was also like, hey, man,

1264
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: he's still a good player, and he would keep falling

1265
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: in my lap in like the eighth or ninth round.

1266
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'll take him, and it turned

1267
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: out that can free them. Happening with Thomas, It's different

1268
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: circumstances health versus you know, quarterback concern and stuff, but

1269
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: like when they're out there on the field, we know

1270
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: that they can outlive that that price. Yeah, no, absolutely,

1271
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see how how long this ADP

1272
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: last and what the future is. Let's get to some

1273
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: tight ends, because there has been some tight end news,

1274
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: the biggest one being the Raiders trade away Darren Waller.

1275
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: This to me might be the biggest surprise in this

1276
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: whole free agency period. I didn't see this coming at all.

1277
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was weird that they signed Jacobe Myers

1278
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, how is he gonna get targets

1279
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: with Waller there, and Hunter renfro there and obviously DeVante Adams,

1280
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the Raiders trade away

1281
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: Darren Waller to the New York Giants. You know, there

1282
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: was talk that maybe there were some personality clashes between

1283
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: Waller and Josh McDaniels, and maybe Darren Waller was sort

1284
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: of frustrated with the way things went. Either way, he

1285
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: is out of Las Vegas, which opens up some targets

1286
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: for Myers. Also, yeah, it's right, that's right. Ryan Dennis

1287
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: mentions it's Foster Morrow season, the Island of Foster morew

1288
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: now might have a few more visits. But maybe more importantly,

1289
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: Waller walks into New York as the number one target.

1290
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: He feels like the guy that Daniel Jones is going

1291
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: to live and die with. So knowing we've got you know,

1292
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey at the top, followed by some combination of

1293
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, Mark Andrews, what George Kittle, you know, all

1294
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: these top level tight ends, where would you consider drafting

1295
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: Waller in the higher key of the tight end position.

1296
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: I think he's back to being top five, And maybe

1297
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: that sounds a little a little bullish. I've always been

1298
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: a big Darren Waller guy. I think he is a

1299
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: very special talent at the tight end position. But last year,

1300
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: on a per route basis, he was still like with

1301
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 1: the best at the tight end position. On a per

1302
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: game basis, he was still top ten in Fantasy points,

1303
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: but his usage dropped dramatically and instead of giving him

1304
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of targets, they started using him downfield a

1305
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: bit more. I think he's gonna get shorter, safer targets

1306
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: with the Giants, which are gonna lead to more catches,

1307
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: and he could easily be one hundred and twenty target

1308
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: guy if he could play the full season. I think

1309
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: not many tight ends could say that. So yeah, I

1310
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: think you know right now, Kelsey's obviously one, Mark Andrews,

1311
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: you could put t J. Hockenson in there. That's three.

1312
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: Then I think, like I would put Waller right there

1313
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: with Kyle Pitts is my top five, and then you

1314
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: have like Kittle, Goddard, Evan Ingram, David and Joe who

1315
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: as the fallback guys. But for me, I'm comfortable putting

1316
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: Waller in the top five. Yeah. I was gonna ask

1317
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: would you go Ivan Ingram or Darren Waller, and you

1318
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: pretty much just answered that one right there. Um, yeah,

1319
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: I think Kelsey, Andrews, Hawkinson, Kittle certainly the top four.

1320
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: I think you can go pits, you know, and then

1321
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Goddard Waller, I think is where

1322
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: you start to kind of debate, you know, where where

1323
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: you're going there. But I think I think there's a

1324
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,839
Speaker 1: big year coming for Darren Waller. Just because the Giants

1325
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: have invested heavily in Daniel Jones, they got to put

1326
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: some people around him, and this seems to be the

1327
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: first piece in terms of trying to make that pass

1328
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: catching group better, because certainly everybody knows the Giants need

1329
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: help when it comes to pass catchers. The Patriots, you

1330
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: mentioned that briefly, they do go to get Juju Smith Schuster.

1331
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: They also add a tight end, signing Mike Gasicki. Gasicky

1332
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: obviously didn't fit Mike in Miami. Mike McDaniel wanted him

1333
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: to be more of a blocker. That was not his strength.

1334
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 1: They also kind of had been using him previously as

1335
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: kind of a big slot receiver, but you don't really

1336
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: need that as much when you've got tyreek Hill and

1337
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle doing the things that they do. So it

1338
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: just sort of made sense that he was not going

1339
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: to be in Miami much longer. How much of a

1340
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: fit is he in New England? How much more viable

1341
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: is he has a fantasy tight end in New England.

1342
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: I really like this signing by the Patriots. They just

1343
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: had a bunch of slot time open up by losing

1344
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: Jacoby Meyers, so you could put him there. Bill Belichick

1345
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: has a history of using tight ends all over the field,

1346
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: and that and that, like Gasecki really isn't a tight end.

1347
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 1: He's more of like a hybrid receiver tight end type

1348
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: of a player. But now I think he's going to

1349
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: go to a spot where there are targets for grabs

1350
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: and their slot usage up for grabs. I think he's

1351
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: still like a very fringe tight end one or early

1352
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: tight end two. But after you get by like the

1353
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: top ten, that's pretty much everyone at the tight end position.

1354
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: This is clearly a good thing for his fantasy value.

1355
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: I would say absolutely a good thing for his fantasy value.

1356
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: He can go back to being more of that pass

1357
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: catcher that he was earlier his career. It's just not

1358
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: something that was going to happen for him in Miami.

1359
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: So you know, the Patriots have been sort of struggling

1360
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: to find a tight end since Gronk left. They went

1361
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: out and drafted a couple of guys who flamed out.

1362
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: Then they went and signed the combination of John H.

1363
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: Smith and Hunter Henry, and those guys never quite lived

1364
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: up to the expectations I think a lot of us

1365
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: had for them. And I'm not saying that Gassicki is

1366
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: going to come in here and be some sort of

1367
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: world beater, but I do think this is a better

1368
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: fit for both sides than what the Patriots have done

1369
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: recently and what Gassicki was experiencing this past year down

1370
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 1: in Miami. The Falcons in a trade, they go get

1371
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: John WU. Smith from the New England Patriots, and I

1372
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: think everybody across if you could watch Twitter, if Twitter

1373
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: could make you know, facial expressions or have body language,

1374
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: everybody on Fantasy Twitter had their shoulders just slump when

1375
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: they saw a tight end going to Atlanta, because you know,

1376
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: we had hoped for great things from Kyle Pitts and

1377
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's offense sort of robbed us of that, and

1378
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: then they're getting another tight end to go in that offense.

1379
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I am choosing to put

1380
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: a positive face on this. I am choosing to think

1381
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: this means they will line up Smith as a tight

1382
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,440
Speaker 1: end and then allow Kyle Pitts to work more outside

1383
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: and see if he can be successful, if he can

1384
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: win some battles there. I'm trying to be happy about this.

1385
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be positive about this, Mike. What does

1386
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: this mean for Kyle Pitts? Though, I hope that you're right.

1387
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: Like last year, the Falcons did run the second most

1388
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: I believe, two tight end sets, and Pitts was largely

1389
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: the receiving one in those packages. The thing, though, is

1390
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: John hu Smith is a better receiver than whoever the

1391
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: second tight end was for them at any point of

1392
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: last season. He's also kind of like Kyle Pitts. He's

1393
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: not the best blocker in the world. He's more of

1394
01:11:54,160 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: a better receiving tight end. So I wish with confidence

1395
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: I could tell you, like, no, he's the second tight end.

1396
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna use Kyle Pitts the right way. But after

1397
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: the year we just went through with Arthur Smith. This, Uh,

1398
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 1: this wasn't the best thing in my opinions, Like just

1399
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: I want them to use him, Like, just make Drake

1400
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 1: London and Kyle Pits your top two receivers and everything

1401
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: would be great. I mean, why wouldn't you. You went

1402
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: out and spent high picks on guys who are athletic

1403
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: freaks and can do a lot of things catching the football,

1404
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: and then you don't use them as such. So right now,

1405
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts coming off the board, ADP about sixty three,

1406
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: So you're looking at what the fifth round, sixth round

1407
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 1: something like that. Is that about where you feel comfortable

1408
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: drafting him right now? Yes, but I'd be lying if

1409
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you in March. I wasn't hoping for

1410
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: a much larger discount after the season we just had

1411
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: with Kyle Pitts, because come August that ADP is probably

1412
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna get. All he has to do is have like

1413
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 1: one big preseason game and then that's going to go

1414
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: up a full round. So I was hoping that it

1415
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: would start in the sixth seventh round his ADP. So

1416
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: I feel like it's we've gotten a little bit of

1417
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 1: a discount. I feel like it started this offseason and

1418
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: he was somewhere late fourth, maybe early fifth. Now we've

1419
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: sort of dropped that down to late fifth, early sixth,

1420
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 1: so it has sort of taken a hint. I'm curious

1421
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on it and see if maybe

1422
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: it drops a little bit more and seeing what kind

1423
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: of value we can get on Kyle Pitts. You're right, though,

1424
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: I really thought after last year we would be talking

1425
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: about him in like the seventh or eighth round. But

1426
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 1: I think people still believe in the talent, and I

1427
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: think we're all hoping that Arthur Smith sees that and

1428
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: decides to scheme up a new way to use him.

1429
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: But man, adding a tight end just does not make

1430
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: me excited at all about the future. Last couple, Carolina,

1431
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 1: they do go and get another pass catcher. They signed

1432
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst, who had a decent year with the Cincinnati Bengals.

1433
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: And hayden Hurst is a guy that I always liked.

1434
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: He was stuck behind a lot of good tight ends

1435
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: in Baltimore for years, as I mentioned, had a decent

1436
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: year in Cincinnati. Carolina needs pass catchers. Do you like

1437
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: this move? And you know I'm not gonna say hayden

1438
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: Hurst is a tight end one, but in terms of

1439
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: like being maybe a solid tight end two, do you

1440
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: like the move. I think this is a really good

1441
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: signing for real life purposes for the Panthers because, like

1442
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: you said, I do agree. I think Hayden Harris is

1443
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: a good talent. He could be useful after the catch,

1444
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: and now he's gonna give whichever rookie quarterback they draft

1445
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 1: a safety blanket over the middle of the field. We

1446
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: always hear that a rookie's best friend is there tight

1447
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: end for fantasy. I do agree. I think tight end two,

1448
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: and he'll be like any tight end two. He'll have

1449
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: some good weeks in some bad weeks, and at the

1450
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: end of the year you'll be like, all right, yeah,

1451
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst was a pretty good tight end. He had

1452
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: that fun stretch in like November or something like that.

1453
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: I think that'll kind of be Hayden Hurst with the

1454
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: Panthers this year. Yeah, I think that that's about right.

1455
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,919
Speaker 1: The thing of being a tight end two in fantasy

1456
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: means that someone you'd be a top five tight end

1457
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: in other weeks you might finish his like the tight

1458
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: end you thirty. So it's somehow it'll sort of even

1459
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: itself out and you'll end the year is like you know,

1460
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: tight end seventeen or something like that. Who knows a

1461
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: couple other semi notable moves at the tight end position.

1462
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: Robert Tonyan signs with the Bears. Hunter Long was actually

1463
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: part of the Jalen Ramsey trade the rate the trade

1464
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: that send Ramsey to the Miami Dolphins. Hunter Long comes

1465
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: back the other way. Either of those do anything for

1466
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: you fantasy wise. I think Tonyon takes a little bit

1467
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: of shine off of Cole Commet. My hope is that

1468
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: they use Tongyan more as the blocker and allow more

1469
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: routes and stuff for Cole Commet. I'm still fun taking

1470
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: him as like a low end tight end one, which

1471
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: is kind of where you're getting him right now. But

1472
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: seeing that, I was like, I would rather them not

1473
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: sign another tight end. I kind of wanted to see

1474
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: Hunter Long stay in Miami, assuming I believe that Mike

1475
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: Kasiki wasn't going to be there. I wanted to see

1476
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: Long stay in Miami and really get an opportunity to play.

1477
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: People have made something of the fact that he has

1478
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 1: I believe, one career catch in the NFL, but people

1479
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 1: like his talent and I wanted to see that kind

1480
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: of shine. But you know, I don't know how much

1481
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: that happens in Los Angeles. The ramps have so many issues.

1482
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't get a chance to play. I would

1483
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: have liked it to be somewhere else. Who sees who knows?

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Speaker 1: That's enough? Right, We've done enough today, haven't we. I'd

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Speaker 1: be remiss if I didn't say, could Darius Tony wide

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Speaker 1: receiver one of the Kansas City Chiefs? All right, we

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Speaker 1: got it in, we got it. Which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the draft pick that the Giants traded to get Darren

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Speaker 1: Waller was the Darius Tony pick. It was. It's pick

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Speaker 1: number one hundred. That's what they got for trading Tony

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Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Chiefs. And now that pick goes

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Speaker 1: to the Las Vegas writers. So Couldarius Tony finds his

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Speaker 1: way into the show one way or another. That's it.

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Speaker 1: We will obviously have more new as it comes when

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Speaker 1: we're back with you next week. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: you on our normal day on Wednesday. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: take an opportunity to sort of let a lot of

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Speaker 1: the news breathe on top of it. We also, you know,

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Speaker 1: had scheduling issues because I was doing some digital shows. Mike,

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Speaker 1: you were on the network. So in terms of getting

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Speaker 1: everybody together at the same time and letting some news happen.

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Speaker 1: We ended up on Friday, but next week we're back

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and we can get back to Florio's film

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01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: festival next week Face Off. It's been in the chamber

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01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks now, but with so much

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01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: going on, we couldn't get to it. But we'll get

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Speaker 1: back to that next week. I will get Florio's take

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Speaker 1: on what could be one of the best bad action

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Speaker 1: movies ever put onto film. I look forward to hearing

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on it. Look forward to getting back with

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Speaker 1: all of you next week as well. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us for what has been an absolutely

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Speaker 1: meaty show on this Friday. Hopefully you enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. A happy, safe and health, do good and

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Speaker 1: live well. Be safe on this Saint Patrick's Day, enjoy

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Speaker 1: the weekend, enjoy the uncy two way tournament, because there

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Speaker 1: is life outside of fantasy football, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you all next week. Wow,

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Speaker 1: don't don't