1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast Crushed It. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: It's good. 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Action Network podcast. My 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 3: name is Michael lieboff. I am the hockey editor here 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: at Action and joining me today for a special mid 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: season NHL betting episode is my friend Pete Blackburn of 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Bally Sports and you probably know him from hockey Twitter 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: and Pete. We are two thirds of the way through 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: the NHL season. The trade deadline is less than three 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: weeks away, so now as a good time as any 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: to take a look at where things stand in the 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: betting market and the NHL. And we'll start with Stanley 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: kup Odds. The Colorado Avalanche, there's still your clear favorite 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 3: there four to one. Tampa Bay five to one. The 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: Florida Panthers. They're eight to one. Toronto Maple Leaves hanging 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: out there at ten to one. The Vegas Golden Knights 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: also ten to one. Carolina Hurry Cans twelve to one, 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: the Calgary Flames, God love them, fourteen to one, the 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Penguins sixteen to one, the Minnesota Wild nineteen to one, 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: Your Boston Bruins twenty two to one. The New York Rangers. 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: They're fraud, but they're at twenty two to one. The 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: Saint Louis Blues twenty five to one, Edmonton Oilers under 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: Jake Woodcroft now thirty to one. Washington Capitals plummeting fest 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: they're thirty to one, the Nashville Predators forty five to one, 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: Dallas Stars fifty to one, the surprising La Kings they're 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: sixty to one. Winnipeg Jets they're seventy to one. The 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: Anaheim Ducks they've shortened to eighty to one off of 28 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: a decent first half, but they've kind of floundered of late. 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: The New York Islanders the worst team in the world. 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 3: There one hundred and one, The Canucks are two hundred 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: to one, and the Santaso Sharks are four hundred and one. 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: Will cut it there because nobody else really has a 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: chance of those names and numbers, which one kind of 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: jumps off the board to you. 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: I think the Minnesota while that nineteen to one, I 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: really like that. I mean their goal to and could 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: use some help. As of late heading into the trade deadline, 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: things could shift and the outlook could shift. 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: Numbers wise and value wise. 40 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: I think the Wilder are a very good team, and 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: they've got a strong top six for the first time 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: in a long time. They've been playing an exciting brand 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: of hockey and they've been finding success. And that Western 44 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Conference behind Colorado is pretty wide open, and I think 45 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: that the Wilder team that proved last year that they 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: can you know, they may not be as impressive on 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: paper as a lot of these like elite teams, but 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: they can hang with them in a seven game series. 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: You know. They they gave Vegas a pretty good run 50 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: last year. 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: So I think the Wilder are a team that I 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: would not sleep on. They haven't been playing super well 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: since the All Star break, but a deep team, a 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: team that's pretty strong up top, and I think that 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: they're a team that can hang in the playoffs. 56 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you bring up a good point, and 57 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: a reason I wanted to record this before the trade 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 3: deadline is that there are gonna be teams that, let's 59 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: say the while go out and they get a goaltender, 60 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: they get Mark Unfrey, Flurry, they get Simon Barlama or 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: whatever their number is going to shorten because that is 62 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: their fatal flow right now, is their goaltending. And like 63 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: you said, they've struggled lately one and six in their 64 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: last seven, so the slower could keep drifting on them. 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: And I think if you're looking to buy a team 66 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: to hang with Colorado in that division and maybe pull 67 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: the upset the Wild, they're probably the only one with value. 68 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: Saint Louis is shortened too much since we saw them 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: at the start of the season. For me, I like 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: the Boston Bruins twenty two to one. And the reason 71 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: I like Boston is, first, we know that GM Don 72 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: Sweeney loves himself to take us. He loves a swing 73 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: at the deadline. Taylor hall, Rick Nash. I mean, the 74 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: list goes on and on. With the big names that 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: the Bruins have gotten after it the trade deadline, they 76 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: have room to do it. They could use maybe some 77 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: of the Claude drew from Philadelphia. I think he would 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: also be open to that idea as well. And if 79 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: they do make that splash, this number should shorten too. 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: They're twenty two to one right now. That number drifted 81 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: from where they were started the preseason. The Atlantic Division, 82 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, Florida, Toronto, Boston. That's a gauntlet. But when 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: you think about the way these four teams play Boston's 84 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: number one and expected goles against this year. There again, 85 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: they're number one in preventing high danger scoring chances their 86 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: second at shot suppression. So this is an incredibly good 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: defensive team. The problem is has been with them the 88 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: season scoring and consistent goaltending, but they got that sorted 89 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: out with the way Jeremy Swaeman's been playing. So if 90 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: Boston can add a secondary score at the trade deadline, 91 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: I think that they are within a shot of getting 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: out of the Eastern Conference because I think they match 93 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: up pretty well against teams like Florida and Toronto who 94 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: play wide open styles of hockey. Those kind of that 95 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: tempo doesn't really translate well in the NHL playoffs. So yeah, 96 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: I think the Bruins are worth a sprinkle here. Twenty 97 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: two to one. I don't see this number getting any longer. 98 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: I think they might be out of twenty five to 99 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: one FanDuel, But if you can find them twenty to 100 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: one or longer, this probably going to be the high 101 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: water mark for Boston. 102 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 103 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: And like, I hear all the things you're saying, and 104 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: I do agree with them, and I think that, like you, 105 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned Don Sweeney and his willingness to take shots 106 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: at the deadline. I think that that's probably going to 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: be amplified a bit this year because, as somebody who's 108 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: from Boston, very close to the Bruins, the temperature on 109 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: Don Sweeney right now is pretty cold, coming off of 110 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: the offseason that he had, and the public opinion of 111 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: him is not super hot. And this team's window is 112 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: definitely closing. You know, the Patrice Bergerron's status is up 113 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: in the air beyond this year, and I mean there's 114 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: some PTSD with David Crachi and what happened with him 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: last year. So it's like, you know, and now Tukarask 116 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: also retired, So like we're starting to see the pieces 117 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: of this cores that have been in place for a 118 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: long time start to drop off. And you know, if 119 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Don Sweeney doesn't take a swing and this team falls short, 120 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: is one and done in the playoff or something like 121 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: that could be his job. He could be out of 122 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: job this summer if things don't go well down the stretch. So, 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think that the desperation factor might be there. 124 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: He's already kind of mentioned that, you know, they're they're 125 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: probably going to do something significant at the deadline. 126 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: So again, you know, I hear what you're saying. Just 127 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: for me. 128 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: I look at at that division, I look at the 129 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. 130 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: It's tough. 131 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Man, Like you got Carolina, you got you know, I 132 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: mean even in the division, you have Tampa, you have Florida. Yeah, 133 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: you say what you want about Toronto, but like, the 134 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: way that the Bruins have played this year is so 135 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: inconsistent that, like, I'm not totally confident that they're going 136 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: to sneak into the into the top three within the division. 137 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: Then outside of the division, you have Carolina. Like I 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: know that they don't necessarily aren't like a super fearsome 139 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: playoff matchup, but I think the Bruins are like pretty 140 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: mediocre this year in terms of what they've delivered consistently 141 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: from an on ice perspective, So not crazy about it. 142 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: But I do get what you're saying from an odds perspective. 143 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just not going to get higher than 144 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: this year. And like you said, this this is it 145 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: last rodeo for bergerond marshand Pastor nachcor An all likelihood. 146 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: And I trust Jeremy Swayman. I've watched him since Tukarask 147 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: have retired again. He has been fabulous and I don't 148 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: see anything in his game that scares me from him 149 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: not being that game, not being able to translate to 150 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: a best of seven. And uh, I yeah, like you said, Sweeney, 151 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: if he can get if he lands Claude Jerux and 152 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: that second line gets bolstered, you're talking about, you know, 153 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: Taylor Hall and Claude Jerux on a second line for 154 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: a team that already has protusced bergeron Brad marshand and 155 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: David Paster knock. There's something, there's something to be said 156 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: about this team. But yeah, the on nice results, especially 157 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: through like the first three and a half months of 158 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: the season for the Bruins have been pedestrian, which is 159 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: why you're getting a decent chance to buy in on 160 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: them right now. And I don't have really any emotional 161 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: attachment to the team, but you do. And it's a 162 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: good sounding board when you're betting right to a fan 163 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: because generally, unless you're you know, crazy, you know, I 164 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: guess Patriots fan or whatever, like, people are going to 165 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: point out the flaws that they see in their own 166 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: team and tell you not to do it. But uh, 167 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: I'm not listening to you. 168 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's not You're not wrong, Like you 169 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: should ask people close to the team and their their 170 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: outlook seems to be more or for the most part, 171 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: more dark than like somebody who's playing the board, because 172 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: when you're playing the board, you see the value. But 173 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: when you're talking to a fan and you're like, well, 174 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: I see the flaws, the deep flaws in the scene, 175 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you not to buy in. 176 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: It's a It's a beautiful thing about betting, Just a 177 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: beautiful thing. All right. We'll move on to some awards 178 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: markets here the Heart Trophy giving out to the MVP. 179 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: It's gonna be an interesting race. Coming into the year, 180 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: everyone just assumed it would go to be a coronation 181 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: for Connor McDavid. He's still the favorite two to one, 182 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: but he's got a lot of company at the top. 183 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: Bustin Matthews is the second favorite at plus three eighty. 184 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: Then it's Alex Ovechkin who's plus five fifty, Leon Drysidel 185 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: McDavid's running mate seven to one. Igorshysterkin of thes is 186 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: eight to one, Jonathan uberdau is eight to one. Then 187 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: you get to some long shots, Carell Caprizov is twenty 188 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: five to one, Chris Crider is twenty five to one, 189 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: Miko Rantnon thirty five to one, Alex Barkov thirty five 190 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: to one. McKinnon Nathan McKinnon of the Avalanche thirty five 191 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: to one. On kil mccarr is fifty to one. Kyle 192 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: Connor also fifty to one. But I think we can 193 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: probably cut it there. This is a frustrating one because 194 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: I think that there are a couple guys who'd want 195 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: to play, but the numbers have shortened a lot. Like 196 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: I think uberdau is interesting. He could end up as 197 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: the points leader for the season if he keeps up 198 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 3: his pace. Igor he was like sixty to one three 199 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: weeks ago at some places, So you missed the boat there. 200 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: But I think he's going to get a lot of 201 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: publicity as this season winds down and hockey writers start 202 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: to talk about, oh, is it going to be the 203 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: first goaltender to win the Heart since Carry Price almost 204 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: a decade ago. If you wanted to take a shot 205 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: on a long shot, I think Cale mccarr is like 206 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: maybe a little interesting if he has a really really 207 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: strong last thirty five games or so, and the way 208 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: he plays, he's he's probably gonna run away with the 209 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: Norris Trophies top Defenseman. He might get onto ballots, but 210 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: at this point I think it's Matthews or McDavid and 211 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: the numbers are too short for me to get involved. 212 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel super strongly anywhere here. I mean, 213 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: Uberdeaux is the one that I kind of would be 214 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: most intrigued with from from a value perspective. And you know, 215 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: even then it's not crazy, Uh Ovechkin, I wouldn't wouldn't 216 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: touch based off of what's happening with Washington. I mean, like, 217 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Ovechkin's having an incredible year, and I think like from 218 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: a narrative perspective, there's a lot of intrigue there. It's 219 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: just like, oh, how is he this good? And then 220 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: this late in his career and there's the chase and 221 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: he's got that on his side. But like with again, 222 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: with the way Washington is trending, would not touch that 223 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: right now. And then you know, Igor, like you said, 224 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: you missed the bot on that, like you should have 225 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 1: play that. You know, before the All Star break you 226 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: saw how this was going and and you know, I 227 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: think it was it's pretty much postmarked that you know, 228 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: Igor is essentially the Rangers at this point, and so 229 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: his name will get thrown in there. But I just 230 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't see him winning it. It's got to be 231 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, if the if Edmonton gets into the playoffs, 232 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: which I expect them to, uh, you know, it's Connor 233 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: is going to you know, be at the top based 234 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: off of you know, the production and just kind of 235 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: carrying that team a little bit. But I don't feel 236 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: super strongly about McDavid or Matthews either way. And and 237 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: after that it's kind of like, you know, I've resigned myself. 238 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: To just assuming that one of those two is gonna win. 239 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. And then I think with this 240 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: market too, you can just wait and see if if 241 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: anything drifts or you know, somebody maybe pokes their head up, 242 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: like like my Carr for example. 243 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 244 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think of the all the awards, the 245 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: Heart and the vesin under the two that I really 246 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: don't think how much Benning intrigued to him. But this 247 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: one I think has a lot, and that's the Jack 248 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: Adams which is given to the coach of the year. 249 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: Right now, my man Darryl Sutter met him before the 250 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: season fifty to one. He's the favorite plus three thirty 251 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: for the Calgary Flames. Giord Gallant he's plus four to fifty. 252 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: Andrew Burnette, who took over for Joe Quennville for the 253 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: Flarida Panthers in October. Andrew Burnett. He's seven to one 254 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: for the Florida Panthers. Jared Bednar of the Avalanche, he's 255 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: plus seven fifty. John Cooper's eight to one for the Lightning. 256 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 3: Rod Brenda Wor's eight to one for the Hurricanes. Mike 257 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: Sullivan he's ten to one for the Penguins. Shewed the 258 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: Key for some reason, is high up on the list 259 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: at fifteen to one. Dean Everson of the Wild a 260 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 3: team you like for the Cup, He's sixty to one. 261 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: Tom McClelland of the Kings is twenty to one. John 262 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: Hines of the Predators twenty to one. Craig Berube of 263 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: the Saint Louis Blues is also twenty one. We'll cut 264 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: it there because I don't think all that many players 265 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: or all that many coaches are interesting, except for one 266 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: other guy who I want to talk about, and that's 267 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: Bruce Boudreau. He's sixty to one. The Vancouver Canucks are 268 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: roughly four to one to make the playoffs right now. 269 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: If they get in, he's getting on the ballot. He 270 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: took over for this team when they're eight fifteen and 271 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: two in December, and if he gets them into the 272 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: postseason after that start, Bruce Boudreau is going to get 273 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 3: a ton of votes. And whether that's enough for him 274 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: to take over for take over Sutter if the Flames 275 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: keep this up is remains to be seen. But I 276 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: think it's going to be Sutter probably Mike Sullivan at Boudreau. 277 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: That would be Those would be my three guesses for 278 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: the ballot right now, with maybe if Colorado just complete storms, 279 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: like Jared Brennar will get on there. But yeah, if 280 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: you're going to make a bet right now and you're 281 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: looking for a fun one, I think it's Boudreau. 282 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's you seem like a guy who 283 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: clearly understands how the voting works. For this, it's like 284 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: the most surprising coach rather than the necessarily like the 285 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: best coach. And so you know, when I look at surprising, 286 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: I would throw Brunette in there, because you know, obviously 287 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: the circumstances not ideal for him to get to get 288 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: that job, and he's done great replacing coach Q. And 289 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: you know that team hasn't really missed much of a 290 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: beat since since taking over, and so, uh, you know, 291 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: he's in there for me, Sutter, I think that you know, 292 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people underestimated what the Flame the Flames 293 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: were capable of heading into the season, and obviously they've 294 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: done super well as of late, and the odds reflect that. 295 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: I would I think that my safest bet would be 296 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Brunette based off of the season long sample so far. 297 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: But I do think that you're right. 298 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going for straight up value, Boudreau 299 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: at sixty to one is a very smart bet because 300 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, you look at you know where that team 301 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: was when he took over, and even the possibility of 302 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: them being a playoff team right now is like, well, 303 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: you know if even if they finished on like the 304 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: wrong side of the bubble, maybe he should still get 305 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: some consideration based off of how low the Stonks were 306 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: on the Vancouver Canucks once that once that change happened. 307 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's an affable guy. The media loves him. 308 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: He's he's got a great quote, he's bigger than Christmas 309 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: basically right now in the NHL. And like I think, 310 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: he's just someone that is fun to back, which is 311 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: what this award is all about. It's about the story 312 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: and like you said, the surprise coach, and that's what 313 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: these the hockey writers who are going to be writing 314 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: are going to be voting. 315 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: For right And on that note, like why not why 316 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: not throw Marty Saint Louis into the mix at this 317 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: point too? I mean that team had the Canadians had 318 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: a what eight eight wins when he took over at 319 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of this month and or at the at 320 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: the beginning of February, and now that you know, I 321 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: believe that they they had won five in a row 322 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: before losing, Like if you can, if you can almost 323 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: have a winning streak that matched the team win total 324 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: or came within a striking distance of the team win 325 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: total when you took over. You know, I obviously I'm 326 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: sort of joking here. I don't expect Marty Saint Louis 327 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: to be in the Jack Adams discussion. 328 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: But you'll get a vote. You'll get like one of 329 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: those get like a straight vote from probably Pierre Lebron 330 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: or something like that someone would just throw them the 331 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: one like third place vote. 332 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's uh, I mean, I don't 333 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't see the odds listed there, but it would 334 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: be very funny to see what what that would be 335 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: listed at at this point in time. 336 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. And the only other one who I think is 337 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: like if you really are just going to have a 338 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: laugh and are rooting for some chaos and the Capitals 339 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: do fall out, they just completely implode. Brad Larston is 340 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: five hundred and one into the Blue Jackets get into 341 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: the playoffs, oh boy, he could at least get his 342 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: name mentioned and get some tongues wagon on, you know, 343 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: whether it's some of these mainstream hockey podcasts like Dirty 344 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: two Thoughts or whatever, which But I'm not telling you 345 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: to go out there and bet Brad Larson to win 346 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: the jack Adams. Unless he wins, then I did. Let's 347 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: move on to the Vest and now this one's a 348 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: little more straightforward. You're basically betting will egoshis Stirkin stay healthy. 349 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: Will he continue to play it, you know, to half 350 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: the form that he's been playing the season, because that 351 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: will still be good enough to get this done. He's 352 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 3: minus won fifty Jacob marks Troom's a second choice at 353 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: six to one. Andre Vasilewski's eight plus eight fifty. Jusorrows 354 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: is fourteen to one. Chack Campbell, for some reason, is 355 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 3: still twenty to one. Sergey Lebrowski twenty five to one, 356 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 3: Tristian jarr is forty to one, John Gibson's forty to one, 357 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: Darcy Kemper is forty five to one. So it's Connor 358 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: Hellibuck and then Thatcher Demko is sixty to one. If 359 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 3: Igor plays out the season and like nothing unforeseen comes 360 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: to him, he's gonna win. But if you know we're 361 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: here to try to help you, you know we'll give 362 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: you some action down and I think that if he 363 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: if you're betting the Bruce Boudreau narrative of can the 364 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: Canucks get to the playoffs, you can also throw Thatcher 365 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: Demco and basically apply the same logic to him. If 366 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: if Demco can will this team to the playoffs, he's 367 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: gonna get some Vesna love. He's sixty to one right now, 368 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: and you're basically parlaying a lot of things to happen. 369 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: If for Demko to win, one shister can either doesn't 370 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: he doesn't stay healthy or he just completely creators two 371 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: Canucks get to the playoffs and three markshow and Veselevsky 372 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: and Sorrows have pedestrian second half. But is that enough 373 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: for sixty to one? I don't know. If you're looking 374 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: for one, that would be the one I would suggest. 375 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: But other than that, there's it's ego or a bust. 376 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's essentially ego or a bust. 377 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: And and you know, I threw some money on Yucy 378 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: Sorrows at the beginning of the year, and I still 379 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: think that's out of the question, especially you know, a 380 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: guy can get injured down the stretch and you know, 381 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: not wishing that on on Egor, but like, things happen, 382 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: and so you know, I still feel okay about you 383 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: Ce Sorrows based on on the way things have gone 384 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: this year, like especially if Nashville gets in and it's like, 385 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, we all kind of know that that's a 386 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: big reason why it would happen. But I'll tell you, like, 387 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: if you had told me before the season that at 388 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: this juncture that Tristan Jari would have better odds than 389 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: like Connor Hellibuck, I'd be like, what, what are you 390 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: what do you what happened to Connor Hellibuck? Was there 391 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: was there an accident of some sort, but uh, you know, 392 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: Tristan Jaria has had a great bounce back campaign. Uh 393 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: what about uh uh Billy Husso in in uh in 394 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: Saint Louis. I mean we saw I think that it's 395 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: it's unlikely, but I mean we saw what Jordan Bennington 396 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: meant to that to the Blues team taking over uh 397 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: mid season a couple of years ago, and now the 398 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: same thing seems to be happening to Jordan Jordan Bennington 399 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: with Hilly Husso in uh in Saint Louis. 400 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. He's he's His name hasn't like popped 401 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 3: up on odds basically in most places. But you know, 402 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: I've been keeping an eye out for him. He's been 403 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 3: fantastic and would be like another guy worth a worth 404 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: a look. I think between like Usso and Sorrows too, 405 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: like they should be. They shouldn't be near the favorites, 406 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: but they should also be on the the odds board 407 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: for the Heart Trophy like you. Sorrows is the MVP 408 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 3: for the National Predators, And when you're looking at the 409 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: pure meaning of the award the most valuable player to 410 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: his team. Sorrows is in that conversation. But it's hard 411 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: to find odds on and because these these markets just 412 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 3: they fall by the wayside. Hockey's already a niche sport 413 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: and these are niche markets, and bookmakers kind of just 414 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: don't really pay attention all that much except to the 415 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: very top or un less some money comes in. But 416 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: if you can find USO out there and the same 417 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: kind of range as Demco, once again, I don't hate 418 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: it because you're it's once again, you're parlaying a couple 419 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 3: of things basically, and you're saying is the sixty to one? 420 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: Is that what the parlay odds are? And another thing 421 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 3: to keep in mind, like I was joking a little 422 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: bit about Jack Campbell, he's twenty to one. He was, 423 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: he was neck and neck with Igor at the top 424 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 3: of the board for the entire first half of the season. 425 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: And he's been the worst goaltender by goal saved above 426 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 3: expected in the NHL since Christmas there or thereabouts. So 427 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 3: these drop offs informed, they do happen, and they can 428 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 3: happen pretty like violently with goaltending with such a volatile position. 429 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: Gay bbrovskis struggling right now, so it doesn't look like 430 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: that will ever happen with Igor. Somehow the Rangers have 431 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: fallen backwards into another outstanding goaltenders, striving me nuts, but 432 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: it's uh, it's not outside of the realm with possibilities. 433 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 3: And it's also I also want to mention too with Egor, 434 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: don't bet on Gerard Galant to win the Jack Adams 435 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: because I think everybody knows ris going on with the 436 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: Rangers right like it's it's this is this is. 437 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: Not a coaching thing. This is not a coaching thing. 438 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: So the fact that he's the second favorite I get 439 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: while he's there because the Rangers came into the season 440 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: as an outsider and HiT's his first season and he's 441 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: coaching in New York and whatever. 442 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: I do think he's a good coach, but he's not 443 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: the reason that this team is over overperforming exactly. 444 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: And I don't think that because of the way Egor 445 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: has played, it's been so outstanding and well noted. I 446 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 3: don't think Golant will get there, which is why I 447 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: think when I was talking about Jack Adams, you can 448 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: basically skip over Glant if you are looking to make 449 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: a bet there. But yeah, for the Vesna, it's if 450 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 3: you want to lay the wood with Egor, I'm not 451 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: going to judge you for it, but at this point 452 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: you've certainly lost basically every bit of value. But if 453 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: he does stay in the blue paint for the Rangers, 454 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 3: it's probably going to be his award to collect come June. 455 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 3: And all right with that, let's move on to the 456 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: Calder Trophy. I think this race is actually more wide 457 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: open than people think. Morrit Sider for the Red Wings defenseman, 458 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 3: he's plus two twenty five as the favorite. Trevor's Egres 459 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: is plus two seventy five of the Anaheim Ducks. Lucas 460 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 3: Raymondsider's teammate in Detroit, he's three to one. Michael Bunting, 461 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: twenty six or twenty seven year old rookie for the 462 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: Maple Leaves, he's plus four fifty. Anton Lendell of the 463 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: Florida Panthers is twelve to one. Then you got Jeremy 464 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: Swayman sixteen to one, Tanners Jernaud of the Predators twenty 465 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: to one, and Matthew Boldy of the Wild twenty five 466 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: to one. Probably cut it there, Okay, I don't think 467 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: that this award. I feel like everyone thinks that tre 468 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: Receivers is gonna win this award because of the hype 469 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: surrounding him. He's had a great season for the Ducks, 470 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: no getting around that. He scored a last second game 471 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: winner against the Bruins last night. He had that Michigan 472 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: style goal thing with Sonny Milano. Earlier in the year, 473 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: he was people were loving what he was doing at 474 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: the skills competition in the also game. He's a lot 475 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: of fun to watch to a casual fan that everyone's 476 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: always talking about that's out there's the hypothetical casual fan 477 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: of the NHL. But I do think that Jeremy Swayman, 478 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: who I bet before the season at twenty five to one, 479 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 3: he's still out there at twenty five to one at 480 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: some places. I think he's absolutely worth a shot. 481 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree that was That'd be my number one there. 482 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 1: I mean, especially based off of the way that that 483 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: he's played. You know, obviously took a took a bit 484 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: of a dive in terms of you know, outlook when 485 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: when Rass came back and he was the guy that 486 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: was sort of the odd man out. But obviously that 487 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: path has been cleared and he's been outstanding since then, 488 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: and me and we talked about the Bruins and their 489 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: outlook heading forward, and like, if the Bruins have a 490 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: strong second half of the year and you know, they 491 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: improve it a deadline and things go super well down 492 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: the stretch and Jeremy Swayman keeps playing this well, that's 493 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: going to get a ton of recognition. And Zegres has 494 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: the name brand power, and you know, say what you 495 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: want about that, and like voter tendencies, but I think 496 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: Swaman is absolutely worth a shot. And I would say 497 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: the same about Matt Boldie and Minnesota too, because Matt 498 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: Boldie has been unbelievable and you know since coming on 499 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: the scene, and you can obviously make the case that 500 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: he's going to be hurt by how late he sort 501 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: of joined the squad, but at this point he's making 502 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: up for lost time, and the numbers are great. He's 503 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: passed the eye test, he's certainly drawn a ton of attention, 504 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: and again, I think that Minnesota is going to be 505 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: a strong team down the stretch and Boldi's probably going 506 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: to be a big factor and part of that. So 507 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: definitely worth a shot at twenty five to one there 508 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: I think is interesting. 509 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 3: He's he's got eighteen points in twenty games. He's going 510 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: to play another twenty. If he ends up around that 511 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: forty point mark or comes close to twenty goals, he's 512 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 3: definitely going to at least be talked about for the award. 513 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 3: And the thing with Swayman that I like right now 514 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: is that his competition for playing time is Lina Solmark, 515 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: who has been I guess, if I'm being kind to him, inconsistent. 516 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: He's not been good for the Bruins. He's not been 517 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: good for the Bruins this season, but Swayman has been 518 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: outstanding three shutouts. If you look at his surface level 519 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: stats like a nine to thirty save percentage, his underlying 520 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: metrics the goal saved above expected, He's when you kind 521 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: of pro rate that out to sixty per sixty minutes. 522 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: He's third or fourth in the NHL. Like he could 523 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: play himself into like a Vesdent of conversation as well. 524 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: He's playing that well right now, and the question always 525 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: was playing time with him. Will he get enough starts? 526 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: I think he's going to if he stays healthy and 527 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 3: if the Bruins continue to play the way they're they're 528 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: playing right now, I think what five or six at 529 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: the time of recording, Swaymen and they can maybe even 530 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 3: stay in touch with Toronto or whoever for that third 531 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: third seed in the Atlantic. Swayman, yeah, is going to 532 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: get on get some votes. And then you're also looking 533 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: at it from a game theory perspective. With Cider and Raymond, 534 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: they'll probably split votes because they're on the same team. 535 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, that opens a door for maybe 536 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 3: a third man in uh and that could be Swayman. 537 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think Swayman Boldie are the two guys 538 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: to go for. I know Tanners, you know, was catching 539 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: some hype earlier in the seasons. He might score twenty 540 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 3: five goals, and if you think that he can get 541 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: to that mark, he might get on a ballot if 542 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: the other guys slow down. But it's it's Swayming Boldy 543 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: as you know, for me in this market. But I 544 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: think that this one and Jack Adams are both worth 545 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: getting into and taking a shot on some of the 546 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: guys we've been mentioning. I mean, with that, that basically 547 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: wraps it up the NSHL season. We're heading towards the 548 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: trade deadline. Big names out there, Claude Drew is probably 549 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: the biggest fish. I think you could see some goaltending moves. 550 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 3: But like I said at the top, like you, if 551 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: you're going to make a bet on a team that 552 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 3: you think is going to make a splash, make sure 553 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: to do it before because the market tends to overreact 554 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: to trades like that. And on that note, I want 555 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 3: to remind you that you can listen to our any 556 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: show betting show. We call it Line Change every Tuesday 557 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: and Thursday morning. 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