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Speaker 2: It's March, so you know there's gonna be madness. The

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Speaker 2: only thing is Carrie, It's madness in the National Football

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Speaker 2: buying should be Combine is wrapping up. Does it bring

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Speaker 2: back any memories, any deja vu for you when you

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Speaker 2: see some of the action or the reactions going on

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Speaker 2: from Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: No, No, the combine was stressful for me. It was

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Speaker 3: one of those things where I wasn't the first round pick,

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Speaker 3: and so you're like everything you're doing you think is

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Speaker 3: super magnified, and you think everything you do is wrong,

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Speaker 3: and the stuff you do is right gets overlooked, and

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Speaker 3: you kind of feel that way because you're like in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the pack and obviously you're trying to

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Speaker 3: put your best foot forward to you know, move up

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Speaker 3: into you think, but a lot of that stuff is

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Speaker 3: just for them to get to see.

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Speaker 2: You and interview you a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But I had a really good time after that at

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Speaker 3: the Pro day, where you're at home and you're around

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Speaker 3: the people, so it's a little different vibe.

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Speaker 2: It's time to show off, so you're exactly what you

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Speaker 2: have to do. Find carry out Carrie twenty five Roads.

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Speaker 2: You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. What

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Speaker 2: I love is just the overreaction, yep. And what I

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Speaker 2: mean by that is, so somebody runs a fast forty

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Speaker 2: times today, they do shoot up the draft board, but

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Speaker 2: it feels like that the immediacy of it is way

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Speaker 2: out of proportion with what actually happened. You'll run a

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Speaker 2: bad time. It's the same thing of what actually it

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Speaker 2: means and how we are reacting in that moment. But

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Speaker 2: there is also something else that is happening, and its

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Speaker 2: movement with veteran players is the new league year is

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Speaker 2: fast approaching, and we saw movement yesterday and a trade

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Speaker 2: that was expected, but we didn't necessarily know the team.

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel going from the San Francisco forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: to the Washington Commanders, and listen, I get it. It's

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Speaker 2: the Niners, It's the Commanders. It's Deebo. The over reaction

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Speaker 2: that we have to that trade. In one hand, I

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Speaker 2: love it. In another hand, I absolutely loathe it. But

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Speaker 2: you see the news pop up, Yeah, we're in a

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Speaker 2: group text. Shay is going crazy over this trade. What

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Speaker 2: do you think when you find out that the commanders

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Speaker 2: are getting Deebo Samuel from the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: It's intriguing, that's the word I'll use. Right Obviously, from

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Speaker 3: the outside looking in, you hear a name like Deebo Samuel,

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Speaker 3: you associate that to the play that he's accustom that

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Speaker 3: level that he's accustomed to plan at. But that wasn't

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Speaker 3: the level last year. And so for me, I take

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Speaker 3: a pause with that. I want to see what that

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Speaker 3: looks like. But when you think of him in that offense,

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Speaker 3: the way that he used to be utilized in San Francisco,

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Speaker 3: a visionary play caller and Cliff Kingsbury, and you have

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Speaker 3: all those elements that could be a beautiful marriage. Even

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Speaker 3: the way they run their offense with he could be

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Speaker 3: at running backs sometimes with Jade and Daniels and run

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Speaker 3: the read option. You can put him in the backfield

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Speaker 3: lot of things you can do creatively.

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Speaker 2: So it the marriage seems beautiful, but that wasn't Deebo

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: The player that's coming in, we don't know who that

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Speaker 3: player is going to be, so I I pause. I'm

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Speaker 3: never one to quickly think that something is a go,

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Speaker 2: Have to wait and see its bringing the executive producer, Shay,

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Speaker 2: how about this? Shay we hun guard? How's that was

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Speaker 2: that close?

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Speaker 4: I was way better. You're the first white person that said.

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Speaker 2: It, right, is it?

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Speaker 2: Is that? What it is is a mohan gad.

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Speaker 4: It's hard because it's and then gat and then it's

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Speaker 2: I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 2: asking him for tips? Am I? Shaye? Am I wrong

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Speaker 2: in saying you had the same reaction that so many

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Speaker 2: did to this trade? This is where it's at.

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Speaker 4: It's because it was super early too, where I was

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Speaker 4: just like I just wasn't expecting it at all. And

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Speaker 4: then I'm like thinking, oh, yeah, boring Dane Sports, like

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Speaker 4: blah blah, like I said to you this morning, boring

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Speaker 4: Dane Sports. And then Debo just comes out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a great trade. I was really

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Speaker 4: the Niners. They weren't really gonna start Debo. They've been

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Speaker 4: setting themselves up to get rid of Debo. So I

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Speaker 4: think this is great on top of it, though I

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Speaker 4: know you might disagree with me, but I know I'm

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Speaker 4: setting Yeah, that's totally but I think this is a

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Speaker 4: big asset for Jayden Daniels. And obviously Debo isn't what

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Speaker 4: he used to be. But considering that, now I keep

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Speaker 4: forgetting the commander's wide receiver's.

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Speaker 2: Name, Terry mclauren. Mclauren.

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Speaker 4: Now the mclauren kind of has that because he's he

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Speaker 4: had Johan Dotson was basically the best other wide receiver

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Speaker 4: gonna make him better on top of giving, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Deepo's a good slot receiver, he could be a good too.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm seeing a lot of good things that can

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Speaker 4: come out of this. And Jane and Daniel's a stud

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Speaker 4: at ASU and obviously at LSU, so I think a

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Speaker 4: lot of things are good for this.

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Speaker 2: But obviously you guys are the pros. We'll see what

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Speaker 2: you guys know. No, and Dotson was so good that

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Speaker 2: they traded him to an Indivision rival dhole season and

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Speaker 2: kind of even what Shay's point is is there hasn't

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Speaker 2: and zach Ertz, I think, yes, you know, fit himself

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Speaker 2: nicely into what the Commanders were doing, but ultimately you

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Speaker 2: And I think Carrie's response was completely reasonable and measured,

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Speaker 2: with the Commanders, there's this thing that we we go

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Speaker 2: really happened. The Commanders have a young quarterback and Jayden

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Speaker 2: Daniels is the rookie of the year in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. Some maybe even thought he was MVP caliber.

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Speaker 2: All of that is fine, and we saw him perform

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Speaker 2: debo topic as well, because why was San Francisco so willing.

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Speaker 2: John Lynch even this week said Deebo said that he

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Speaker 2: him a fresh start. And all the moves that they've

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Speaker 2: I mean they've been over backwards to keep Brandon Ayuka right.

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Speaker 2: He wanted out. He was talking to other teams. He

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Speaker 2: going to quit on Brandon Ayuk. We want Brandon Ayuke

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Speaker 2: they made up their mind debo was not going to

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Speaker 2: be a part of their future. Deebo also had a

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Speaker 2: point this year in their game against Tampa Bay. Remember

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Speaker 2: he's yelling at the kicker and fighting with the long snapper. Yep.

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Speaker 2: So you're like, okay, what about team chemistry here? So

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Speaker 2: now how does that fit into this locker room? I

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Speaker 2: take the commanders for who they are, people don't want

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Speaker 2: to look at reality when we're looking at these teams

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Speaker 2: that we're looking at these runs. And I know we

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Speaker 2: rain on the parade of the NBA all the time,

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Speaker 2: and maybe it's the opposite with the NFL, but let's

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Speaker 2: really look at who the commanders are are in who

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Speaker 2: they were this past season. Everything about Jayden Daniels is true.

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Speaker 2: This is a twelve and five team that had about

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Speaker 2: five or six coin flip games this year that all

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Speaker 2: I remember, like it was. It was absurd. It was

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite games. In fact, I talked with

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Speaker 2: know about the Bears, Hail Mary game. Yes, and when

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Speaker 2: Then the Bears make a comeback. Bears run a handoff

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Speaker 2: it's the Hail Mary and the Commanders end up winning

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Speaker 2: that game. That was crazy enough. Remember the Saints game.

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Speaker 2: In fact, they then get the six seed because Green

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Speaker 2: Bay loses to the Bears. All of these games are

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Speaker 2: isn't as strong as their twelve and five. I love

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Speaker 2: getting another weapon for Jayden Daniels. I just don't know

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Speaker 2: what Deebo Samuel if that is the play I think

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Speaker 2: that Deebo Samuel has also shown some at times, maybe

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Speaker 2: selfish behavior stands out in my mind that Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 2: and his draft class was the last draft pick to

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Speaker 2: sign his deal. Of everyone, he was the last one

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Speaker 2: to sign. Now, that may be great marketing and great

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Speaker 2: business dealing, but you're slotted. You're slotted with where you are.

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Speaker 2: So everybody was in there slot except Deebo Samuel because

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Speaker 2: he wanted what was his And that's why I caution

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Speaker 2: the overreaction to it. It may work out in Washington,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think it's going to be as great

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Speaker 2: as people think. And I'm not sure the Commanders are

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Speaker 2: going to be as great as people think that they

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Speaker 2: previous year, because so many things went right from this year. Heck,

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, the Lions were playing like fifth string

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Speaker 2: left on defense to be able to play that game.

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Speaker 2: Commanders go in, score tons of points again, tip of

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Speaker 2: the cap, go on the road, beat the number one seed.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to take that away from it, but

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Speaker 2: it's just the fact of I'm not as sold on

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Speaker 2: the Commanders, and now I feel people are like de

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Speaker 2: Bow with the Commanders, look out Eagles. No, I don't

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Speaker 2: think so. No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I mean the beautiful thing about the NFL and about

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Speaker 3: The year after that, what happened didn't make the plan

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why were they so willing? Fifth round? Is crazy?

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Speaker 2: And it's not like the forty nine ers who went

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. He's carry Rhoads, the all Pro starter

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Speaker 2: since day one. I'm Dan Byer hanging out with you.

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Speaker 2: March second, our second day of Madness. I know we

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Speaker 3: I think it's a one way and have special packages

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Speaker 3: play both. I think for you, I think the one

432
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Speaker 3: thing that you can do as a team that's drafting him,

433
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Speaker 3: draft him at a position, let him know and let

434
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Speaker 3: him learn that position, but also say we're gonna have

435
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Speaker 3: one or two packages for you on the other side,

436
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Speaker 3: so you will.

437
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Speaker 2: Get to play both.

438
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Speaker 3: But playing both at the amount at the rate that

439
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Speaker 3: he did in college, it will not work. That's just

440
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Speaker 3: my personal opinion.

441
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Speaker 2: Mark Dominic, former NFL GM GM, former GM of the Buccaneers,

442
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 2: was on our show Friday. Yeah, that's who I was teasing.

443
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 2: He absolutely agrees with you. He says he's he's got

444
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 2: to be a corner. I'm not. We're not doing this

445
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Speaker 2: this two way stuff. I'm actually I'm more on board

446
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Speaker 2: the way that you play it out because I feel

447
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 2: it should be a package sort of deal. Plus, I

448
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,959
Speaker 2: want to see him be a two way guy. Sure,

449
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Speaker 2: I really do, and I think that the NFL needs it.

450
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Speaker 2: If you were paying him as that, Dan, would you

451
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Speaker 2: do it?

452
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Speaker 3: That's the part right As a fan, Yes, I think

453
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Speaker 3: we all want to see it as a fan, but

454
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Speaker 3: as an organization.

455
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Speaker 2: So I'm sorry, break up, No, no, you didn't. You

456
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 2: actually caught me in a in a moment where I

457
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 2: feel that on field, it's the smart thing to do

458
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 2: to say, you're not wasting your investment because you're having

459
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Speaker 2: him focus being a defensive back and being a corner.

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Speaker 2: I feel if he plays both ways, he becomes a

461
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Speaker 2: bigger star, which is bigger for your organization. In that way,

462
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Speaker 2: your team becomes more popular. The NFL needs stars that

463
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: aren't quarterbacks. It is extremely lacking, and it's one of

464
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Speaker 2: the biggest things. It was Saguon Barkley this past season

465
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Speaker 2: that was so great was here's a guy who could

466
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Speaker 2: be a superstar in the NFL, and maybe is a

467
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Speaker 2: superstar that isn't taking snaps from under center. For as

468
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Speaker 2: great as the wide receivers have been in the National

469
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Speaker 2: Football League, and we're talking great ones, Jamar Chase may

470
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Speaker 2: have that possibility justin Jefferson may as well, but Carrie

471
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Speaker 2: I would argue right now that they're not superstars. Superstars

472
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Speaker 2: to the level of when you can match the excitement

473
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Speaker 2: of a quarterback. And I feel when I grew up

474
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Speaker 2: and I know it was thirty years ago and it

475
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Speaker 2: was a different game because now it's so quarterback heavy.

476
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Speaker 2: But Emmett Smith's name, Barry Sanders name were just as

477
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Speaker 2: important as Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Jim Kelly,

478
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Speaker 2: Lawrence Taylor's name. It was just as big as everyone else's, Yes, exactly,

479
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Speaker 2: And I don't think we're at that point yet. So

480
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Speaker 2: if Travis Hunter can be that superstar, he can be

481
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Speaker 2: that guy that goes to the next level and becomes

482
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Speaker 2: popular and has maybe more than just a few packages,

483
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Speaker 2: I think you almost have to do it for the

484
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Speaker 2: good of the league and for the good of your franchise,

485
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Speaker 2: because I think that then develops interest in appeal from

486
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Speaker 2: your team to be like, wow, we have we have

487
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Speaker 2: the unicorn. And I also think, in no disrespect to

488
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Speaker 2: the cornerback position, but we try to compare it to

489
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Speaker 2: other sports like Shoheo Tani. Sorry, hitting the baseball is

490
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Speaker 2: super duper important. Yes, if I'm looking at an NFL

491
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Speaker 2: field right now, on defense, maybe the corner isn't the

492
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Speaker 2: biggest priority. It's what's happening on the edges. Maybe it's

493
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Speaker 2: happening on the defensive line. So that's the other reason

494
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Speaker 2: for it is there are great corners. Patrick Sirtan junior

495
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Speaker 2: just one. Yeah as a corner. Yeah, not even close

496
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Speaker 2: to being a superstar. It's not his fault, it's just

497
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 2: it's part of the nature. There are more popular defensive players,

498
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Speaker 2: I think for the popul layer and what this unicorn

499
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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter could do that offense, putting more than just

500
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Speaker 2: maybe a package or two in would be good for

501
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Speaker 2: organization and the league as a whole.

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Speaker 3: As a for a league and as an organization as

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Speaker 3: a whole, I agree with that assessment. But what you're

504
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: going to do is put this young man in the

505
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Speaker 3: situation playing both ways, and he's not going to master

506
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Speaker 3: either one of them, and so then you're putting a

507
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Speaker 3: mediocre product on the field for that player. You're not

508
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Speaker 3: allowing him to be the best version of himself because

509
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Speaker 3: it's just the people on the NFL level are just

510
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Speaker 3: that good and if you're not mastering your craft, you're

511
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Speaker 3: gonna be mediocre. And I think Dominic, I'm sure that's

512
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Speaker 3: what that would be his mindset and why he's saying

513
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Because if you're a master of many,

514
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Speaker 3: you're not a master of anything. And so that's the

515
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Speaker 3: whole point of being the guy that comes in and

516
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Speaker 3: we're going to pay you this money to be a

517
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Speaker 3: master at your craft.

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Speaker 2: You can't do both like that at the NFL. Jack

519
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Speaker 2: of many, master of none. And that's I think what

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Speaker 2: you're saying. Here's the other side of this. What about

521
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: if Travis Hunter was like, I only want to play

522
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Speaker 2: wide receiver, Like, like, what would is ceiling be? And

523
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Speaker 2: and I asked that in a way of we feel

524
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Speaker 2: that his best skills are at the cornerback position. But

525
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Speaker 2: if you really, if you really want to make that

526
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Speaker 2: impact in that dent in the league like he is, Like,

527
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Speaker 2: in a way, I almost feel it's just wasted at

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Speaker 2: the cornerback position. It's not like it was with Dion

529
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Speaker 2: thirty some years ago. Again, we don't care about any

530
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Speaker 2: other position but quarterback, and there have been some great corners.

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Speaker 2: We love Sauce Gardner. We love Sauce Gardner because it's

532
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Speaker 2: named Sauce. Yeah, that's that's the only reason right now,

533
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Speaker 2: That's the only reason. But it's like the the the

534
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Speaker 2: life of a cornerback in the National Football League and

535
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Speaker 2: the notoriety around it has diminished since Dion obviously has

536
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Speaker 2: been there Richard and made a name for himself. But

537
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: it's just it's just not there. And that's why that's

538
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: why I'm so for him playing both ways. If this

539
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: was an edge rusher looking to do stuff on offense

540
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: as a tight end or doing things, I think it

541
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Speaker 2: would be quite a unique story and something that we

542
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Speaker 2: talk about, and maybe there'd be even more flash to it.

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Speaker 2: But I almost feel like in a way, we're burying

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Speaker 2: him at Corner just because of I don't want to

545
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: say the relevance of the position, but maybe the importance

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Speaker 2: of the division of the position as a whole. And

547
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Speaker 2: I feel that he Yeah, he could go out and

548
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: be the best corner in the world, but is that

549
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Speaker 2: going to translate to the superstardom that could be if

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Speaker 2: he was a true two way player.

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Speaker 3: No, it will not, and I think that would be

552
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Speaker 3: the only downfall of that situation. But again that's again,

553
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Speaker 3: if you're worried about your product, then you care about

554
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Speaker 3: the product, and you want the best version of that

555
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: product for you. You got to let him master one.

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Speaker 3: And that's not and and again that can be year

557
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Speaker 3: one only plays corner.

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00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: The next year he's mastered corner.

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Speaker 3: And now we opened that playbook a little bit more

560
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Speaker 3: from the play receiver and maybe a Blossoms dand but

561
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: if you try to put too much on the plate early,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's gonna be hard selling for Travis.

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Speaker 2: Week one, Week one, I am putting a package wherever

564
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Speaker 2: if you go, he goes to the Giants New York,

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, yeah, it would eat that up. Obj

566
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Speaker 2: was a star. Obj was a superstar. I would say

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Speaker 2: Obj was a superstar in the NFL at the wide

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Speaker 2: receiver position for what he did, who he was, the

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Speaker 2: team he played for, help being in New York at

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Speaker 2: the helps, Travis Hunter ends up going third to the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he got another superstar in your hands like he

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Speaker 2: had with obij and Lawrence Taylor's we talked about before

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Speaker 2: He's carried Roads. I'm Dan Byer live from the Tirerech

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Let's jump over to the news desk.

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Speaker 2: Martin Weiss joining us. He's our on Unicorn hosting earlier

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Speaker 2: today and now at the update desk and is going on.

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Speaker 7: Martin, I have a Travis Hunter question for you all.

578
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Speaker 7: If when I'm done here, if you'd spend sixty seconds answering,

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Speaker 7: I'd really appreciate it. All right, all right, it's a

580
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 7: short sports day. Not a lot going on the Oscars

581
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 7: now anyway. Never never a slow sports day. We can

582
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 7: always do.

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Speaker 2: We can always find it, We can always find the gold.

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Speaker 7: Well, the New York Jets are trying to find gold

585
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Speaker 7: for Davonte Adams. Ian Rappaport is saying that the team

586
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 7: is taking calls on Davante trying to trade him tonight.

587
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: Able to find a partner, they.

588
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Speaker 7: Will just be forced to release him, and that's probably

589
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Speaker 7: what they'll end up doing. The Celtics beat the Nuggets

590
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 7: one ten to oneh three earlier today. Jalen Brown led

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Speaker 7: the Celtics with twenty two points and eight assists. Al

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Speaker 7: Horford with nineteen Tatum one for seven from three, he

593
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Speaker 7: only finished with sixteen points. Jamal Murray led Denver after

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Speaker 7: a big fourth quarter, he had twenty six points. Jokis

595
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Speaker 7: was one assist away from a triple double. Along with

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Speaker 7: those nine assists, he had twenty points and fourteen rebounds.

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Speaker 7: Right now we are the Pacers are playing the Bulls.

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Speaker 7: It's thirty two to thirty one Indiana and also at

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Speaker 7: the end of the third I'm sorry, that's at the

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Speaker 7: end of the first quarter for the Bulls and the Pacers.

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Speaker 7: At the end of the third quarter, the Trailblazers have

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Speaker 7: a ten point lead on the Cavaliers.

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Speaker 2: Cavaliers are forty.

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Speaker 7: Nine to ten on the year twenty seven and four

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Speaker 7: at home, with trailing Portland by ten. No Donovan Mitchell

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Speaker 7: in this game Portland twenty seven and thirty three, But

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Speaker 7: I've been playing better ball recently. The Michigan State beat Wisconsin.

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Speaker 7: It's won seventy one to sixty two. Jay Nakens led

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Speaker 7: the Spartans with nineteen points, and right now on the road,

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Speaker 7: Illinois is up big on Michigan, seventy nine to fifty

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Speaker 7: nine to score with five minutes left in the first half.

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Speaker 7: Five minutes left in the second half, there we go.

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Speaker 7: Twenty point game. That was for Michigan, the fifteenth to

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Speaker 7: rain team in the nation. Also with ten minutes left

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Speaker 7: in the game, UAB has a sixty seven to sixty

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Speaker 7: two lead over Memphis and the NHL. The Maple Leafs

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Speaker 7: beat the Penguins six to five in overtime, and just

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Speaker 7: about the start of the third period, they just dropped

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Speaker 7: got the thing started in the third period between the

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Speaker 7: Wild and the Bruins Minnesota what they won nothing lead

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Speaker 7: and with three twenty six left in the first period Calgary,

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Speaker 7: the Flames and the Hurricanes tied nothing zero zero. Now

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Speaker 7: to you, guys, I have a question that's your part

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Speaker 7: of the reason. In my opinion, I think it's always fair.

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Speaker 7: It's is that we look at Travis Hunter the way

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Speaker 7: we do is because of obviously what he did playing

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Speaker 7: those hundred snaps a game, right, we see him and

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Speaker 7: it's the intrigue of is he going to be a.

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Speaker 2: Two way player? Can he play?

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Speaker 7: How does this look on the next level if he

631
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Speaker 7: was solely going to play a cornerback or solely going

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Speaker 7: to play wide receiver. Doesn't his status as projected top one, two,

633
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 7: three pick drop like? What like how good of a

634
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 7: cornerback would he have to be to be the the

635
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Speaker 7: number one, our number two player overall? Like would you

636
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Speaker 7: say Travis Hunter is the best cornerback in this class?

637
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Speaker 7: Is he the best wide receiver in this class? Or

638
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Speaker 7: is he the best athlete in this class who we

639
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Speaker 7: saw put up.

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Speaker 2: The most stafts? Because that those are three different questions.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great point. And I don't think

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00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: Martin's asking us. I think he's made this point. I

643
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Speaker 2: love how you wanted to frame in it. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a opinion on it. I know, I think it's

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00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: I think you're one hundred percent spot on. You know,

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Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon from Illinois a couple of years ago goes

647
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: fifth overall to the U to the Seahawks, and you know,

648
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: we're looking back at corners at that point, and people

649
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: felt that he was different in a way and worthy

650
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Speaker 2: of that top pick. To Martin's point, if it's only

651
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Speaker 2: being a cornerback, would you take a cornerback third overall

652
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Speaker 2: in the NFL draft? Because you don't do that very often.

653
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Speaker 2: Last year we didn't have a defensive player taken until

654
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Speaker 2: midway in the first round. It was offense, offense, offense, offense.

655
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Speaker 2: Now there were quarterbacks that were obviously a big part

656
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Speaker 2: of it, but still even when quarterbacks weren't taken, it

657
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: was offense, offense, offense. I think that a great point,

658
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Speaker 2: and I do not think that he would be that

659
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Speaker 2: high to answer that question of it, and and I

660
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: think that's the point that you're trying to make as well,

661
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Speaker 2: is the true value of him is as an athlete

662
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: and a multi level player, Yeah, than just the cornerback.

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Speaker 3: Well, I say this, Yes, you can't take a top

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Speaker 3: cornerback that high if they're that good. And the draft

665
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Speaker 3: isn't quarterback heavy in the regards of or even offensive

666
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Speaker 3: tackle heavy like a left tackle or a quarterback like

667
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: those positions are, and an edge rusher, those positions are

668
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: pretty much stamped in, like in its greatness of we

669
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Speaker 3: gotta take that guy. You got a Dion that was high.

670
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: You had a Charles Woodson that can be that high.

671
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Speaker 3: So if he's that good at corner, he can be

672
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Speaker 3: taking that high.

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Speaker 2: And so that's the point what can be which it

674
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Speaker 2: was fourth My favorite college football player is On Springs

675
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: from Ohio State and then went to the Seahawks third overall,

676
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: So like that was you know ago. But the point

677
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Speaker 2: being is you're not seeing corners going one or two, right,

678
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Speaker 2: you're talking historic if he goes three in that or

679
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: like you're in a group of his historic picks at

680
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Speaker 2: that number. So I think it's a it's a good question.

681
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a very good point. A good point

682
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Speaker 2: by Martin Weiss, And yeah, I agree. The reason that

683
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: he should go three is because of what he does

684
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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. That's why I think

685
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Speaker 2: he needs to do it as well. He's Carrier Roads.

686
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. Celtics gotta win against the Nuggets today.

687
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: As you heard Martin say, was there wake up call

688
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: for the rest of the season? Did that come on Friday?

689
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Speaker 2: We'll find out next. He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, Carrie, you tell on yourself, and you tell on

696
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Speaker 2: yourself by how old you are, like I did. It

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday. He's the all pro Carry Roads.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. In referencing corners and going back in time,

699
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Speaker 2: not only did I go back to my favorite player

700
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Speaker 2: in Sewan Springs in the ninety seven draft taking third overall,

701
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Speaker 2: I completely skipped over a buck eye that went third

702
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Speaker 2: overall to the Lions Jeff Acuda. Derek Stingly went third

703
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Speaker 2: as the cornerback a couple of years ago for the

704
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Speaker 2: Houston Texans. He's great as well. But yes, are we

705
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: sitting there having weekly conversations on how great Derek Stingley is.

706
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Speaker 2: I don't think we are.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we should maybe what about that man? Good points, period,

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Speaker 3: videos on YouTube. Get check in some fast Times with

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Speaker 3: Carrie Rhoads as well from the NFL regular season, and

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Speaker 3: carry was breaking down the play's weekend week out of

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Speaker 3: the NFL season. It's time now for Carrie to lay

718
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Speaker 3: down the law with a little bit of carry On,

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Speaker 3: Ready to go, let's do it. Number one Celtics lost

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Speaker 3: to the Cavs on Friday will be a wake up

721
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Speaker 3: call the Boston for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: I'm off of that one. I'm off that one. They

723
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Speaker 2: got who they are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these are the two top teams in the East.

725
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: Boston jumped out early. Cleveland responded. Boston was short handed

726
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: This isn't some wick up call. They had been playing. Well,

727
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: a little bit of Jason.

728
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: Tannan being I'll get the pretty body here at twenty

729
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: five to three, you know what that is.

730
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Speaker 3: That's because everybody's been on them and talking about he's

731
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: not the face of the league and all these things.

732
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: So he's using all that as ammo, and obviously it's

733
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: probably more directed at that than anything else.

734
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Speaker 2: I love the guy who steals everyone else's lines. Could

735
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: be mad that he's not the face of the NBA exactly,

736
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: all right, Kevin Durant will never get to a conference

737
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: final again. Rumors of trades this offseason. I'm on board

738
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Speaker 2: with that or not. I'm off that one. I'm off

739
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: that one as well. It just depends on the situation

740
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: it be gets traded to. I've been hearing some murmuring,

741
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: some rumors it gets traded to that any teams up

742
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: with Kyrie and Ad you don't think they can make

743
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: the conference finals.

744
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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say I'm off that. I think it

745
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: just depends on the situation. If he goes to a

746
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: team that obviously doesn't have those pieces in place, you

747
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: might be on with something at that point. But it

748
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Speaker 3: depends on the destination.

749
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Speaker 2: All right, how about this one, since you mentioned the

750
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: face of the league, Lebron James's face of the league,

751
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: frustrations are legitimate. I'm on that one. I'm on that one.

752
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: There's so much negative discourse around being the face of

753
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: the league right now. If you have so many pundits

754
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 3: always out for blood, trying to get the next big story,

755
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: the next big topic, that can be good for conversation

756
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: fodder and not about the actual player on what they're

757
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: doing and what they're represent for the organizations. Lebron has

758
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: a point. We know Lebron has his own agendas, but

759
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: this point it sat well with me.

760
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: It was Lebron's own agenda. Yeah, but if you go

761
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: back three or four state, so when the conversation actually

762
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: was about Anthony Edwards exactly not wanting to be the

763
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: face of the league, I think that's even more of

764
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: a conversation. I was critical of Anthony Edwards last year

765
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 2: on the show during the playoff run, as you remember,

766
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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that he has to or doesn't

767
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 2: have to, but this is also now during a week

768
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Speaker 2: where he gets his sixteenth technical of the season, gets

769
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Speaker 2: suspended for a game and throws a ball into the stands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about like not wanting to be the

771
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: face of the French Eye or the face of the league.

772
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: I think a lot of those guys do want to

773
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: be that. But what comes with that and the vitual

774
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: that comes with that and the standard that comes with that.

775
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: A lot of people aren't ready for that. Sure, And

776
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't think Anthony Edwards wants to change who he

777
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: is exactly, and I hope that day comes. I really

778
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: hope that it does. I don't even know if he's

779
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: next in line, like I think it's so. I still

780
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: think Luca is in the category of being the face

781
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: of the league. And I still think Victor Wemenyama is

782
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: your leader in the clubhouse. Yeah for how crazy is

783
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: And I think Cooper Flag has an opportunity. They are

784
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: just all the other guys in the NBA now, essentially, Carrie,

785
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I almost feel that the ballots

786
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: are in, Like we can call some of the races.

787
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum is not gonna be the you know, CNN projects,

788
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum won't be a face of the NBA. We

789
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Speaker 2: can call it, yeah, all right, Rick Patino and Saint

790
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Speaker 2: John's are the best story in college basketball this season.

791
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Speaker 3: Oh man, I love I love coach. I know Rick

792
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: very well. I'm gonna be off on that one. I'm

793
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: off on that one. The story is the powerhouses this year.

794
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: The story of college basketball is Auburn Duke and I

795
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a race to the championship between

796
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 3: those two. And there's some other interesting stories that could happen,

797
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: some teams that could crack the final LA. Saint John's could.

798
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: Possibly John's could, but Michigan State looking like State is

799
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: starting to play playing well, Florida Tennessee at Opsons.

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Speaker 3: But the two powerhouses and the two that I think

801
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: are buying for that national championship in that race to

802
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: ultimately win between Duke and All. But I think we'll

803
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 3: see that final as we go, all.

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00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: Right, final one because we only have fifteen seconds. John

805
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Speaker 2: Cena as a heel, I have no idea if you're

806
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Speaker 2: into wrestling or not. But are you on board? I'm

807
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: gonna say, carry has no idea what that is? Carry off?

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Speaker 2: Way off? John Cena turned heel last night in the

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Speaker 2: WWEH I know that, Come on, you're an actor. There

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Speaker 2: was Carry on on Fox Sports Radio, the Rams are

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Speaker 2: gonna carry on with Matthew Stafford. Did they make the

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Speaker 2: right choice? That's next on Fox Sports Radio. Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 2: so I just said my name. I didn't I could

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Speaker 2: You could have called.

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Speaker 3: You could have done anything that's anything good on it.

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Speaker 4: very much. I appreciate that. I realized that the bar

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Speaker 2: accuse Ben Maller of any cheating. Bucky Brooks may have

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Speaker 2: been in the same group as well, but relaxed militia. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't want the milisitay? Just saying it just may

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Speaker 2: We have new blood in I'm golf, I play two

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Speaker 2: right after What did you do? What happened? I might

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Speaker 2: have had too many drinks, man, I might have. By

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Speaker 2: after you said I may have had too many drinks.

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Speaker 2: That's the best thing, right.

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Speaker 4: Obviously I got stitches and all that, And then for

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Speaker 2: Well let it go. We're a driver to the eyebrow.

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Speaker 2: Was that what it was? Yes, it was a driver.

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Speaker 4: My friend on his back swing smacked me in the

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Speaker 4: the my eyebrow. Thank god it hit my eye or anything.

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Speaker 4: So hit my eyebrow, got stitches and everything. Best case

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Speaker 4: see the stitches or anything. So it was nasty.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you that right now. It was that

859
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 8: guy looked cool though, No, it didn't.

860
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: I thought it looked cool. This is what happens when

861
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: you play golf, is you get so wrapped up in

862
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: your own game you don't think of anybody around you.

863
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: Was it a p It was a practice wing, right? Probably? Yeah?

864
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: Well I think I don't know if it was a

865
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 4: practice swing or not, honestly, because he did his practice

866
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: wing before. He takes like twenty practice wings though.

867
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: But he was he addressed at the ball. Was he

868
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: he was right? I was a little too close. Oh, okay,

869
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: it was.

870
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: It was definitely my fault. We already knew it was

871
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 4: my fault. I was gonna say.

872
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes guys are so invested in their own game and

873
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: what they need to do, and they're just in their

874
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: own world, like they're just like, okay, I need to

875
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: get this in the fairway, So you take a practice shot,

876
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: you don't realize who's behind you, and sometimes you get

877
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: you get one in the eye like Shade did. I'll

878
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: post I'll post some pictures on tour. Who said golf

879
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: is not a contest? Ye, oh, my goodness. I'll tell

880
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: you what. Matthew Stafford didn't even need a round of

881
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: golf to get the Rams to Cave Thursday night. And

882
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how many people are aware of this,

883
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 2: but Thursday night a report came out that the Raiders

884
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: and Matthew staff Effort had reached common ground on a contract.

885
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: And this was on the heels of, first of all,

886
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: the story that took over the Combine, the Jordan Schultz

887
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: ian Rappaport fight, about the story of Matthew Stafford and

888
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: Tom Brady meeting up in Montana. Now, apparently there's some

889
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: other things going on, maybe behind the scenes as well,

890
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: but that ended up being the story of the Combine.

891
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: But it was the fact that the Raiders were in

892
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: pursuit of Stafford, with Brady having an active role in it.

893
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: But what was so shocking to me was there were

894
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: layers to this as well. Aaron Rodgers was then thought

895
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: of as a possibility to the Rams. But was shocking

896
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: was how quickly it just then changed. The Rams are like, okay,

897
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: we'll bring you back where it was. The story was

898
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: Thursday night, and by noon local time on Friday here

899
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: on the West Coast, Stafford had agreed to a new

900
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: deal to return to the Rams. And that to me,

901
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 2: I feel that Aaron Rodgers was used as a pawn

902
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: in all of this, in trying to give the Rams

903
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: some sort of leverage that they would be able to

904
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: get Matthew Stafford on an affordable price. I didn't think

905
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: that maybe they wanted to throw it out there to

906
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: see if some team would overpay for him draft pick

907
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: compensation wise. I don't even know if it got that

908
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: far carry because once one team ended up offering him

909
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: a contract that he was happy with, the Rams seemed

910
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: to cave, and now Matthew Stafford's back in La.

911
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the ultimate game of Uh, let's let's let's

912
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: push the limits. What's what's the thing, Oh, it's an

913
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: ultimate game of chicken. It's chicken. Let's put you out there.

914
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 3: We're gonna see, We're gonna bluff, We're gonna see what happens.

915
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: Those erroneous supports of reports of contracts being sign sealed

916
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: and delivered and ready to go. Like a lot of

917
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: that stuff is fodder. We know that that's agent and play.

918
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 3: That's that's what that that's what that ends up being

919
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 3: a lot of the times. But I never thought that

920
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: the Rams would let go of Stafford. It just didn't

921
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: make sense to me after what we had just saw. Now,

922
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: obviously if the price was too too steep, then that's

923
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: another conversation.

924
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: But what's too steep? We talked about it.

925
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: I said, McVeigh is a guy that wants to win,

926
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: and it's not about taking time. We're trying to get

927
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 3: somebody ready to play. That's been proven. He got rid

928
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: of golf for a guy that he thought could put

929
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: him over to Tom. That's just what he does. So

930
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: why would he take a step back and he's somebody

931
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: that's already flirted with leave in the game anyway to

932
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: go do other things. Yes, So why it just didn't

933
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: make sense to me at all.

934
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and for a front off, I said, quite honestly,

935
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: And I know that they they hit the jackpot with

936
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: a lot of their picks, Jared Versus being one of them,

937
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: the first round pick last year in taking over. But

938
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: they've been a team that usually has been like, all right,

939
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: we'll pay the bill later, we'll worry about that. We'll

940
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: just we'll put this off further, we'll do this trade,

941
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: We'll worry about that. And in that first round, picks

942
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: for years because of the deals that they did and

943
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: them going with a youth movement didn't necessarily fit what

944
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: I thought the Rams m was bringing in Aaron Rodgers

945
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: was more of them. But again in how quickly this

946
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: turned like it wasn't the story from Las Vegas, wasn't

947
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: The Raiders and Matthew Stafford have reached an agreement on

948
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: a contract, and the Raiders are now willing to give

949
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: up picks, you know, X, Y and Z. It was

950
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: just they found common ground on a contract, so the

951
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: Rams didn't even hear what the Raiders were going to

952
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: offer back to them as part of a deal before

953
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: saying you know what we want you back. And I

954
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: don't know if it's an overblown story for this offseason,

955
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: but it sure seemed to end a lot quicker than

956
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: that Game of Chicken ended a lot quicker than what

957
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: it appeared to a week or two it.

958
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: And you know what's funny, The rebuttal of that was

959
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: from the Rams side is we're okay with Garoppolo. Yeah right,

960
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: you heard that story. I was like, okay, they can wins.

961
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: I think they can win with Jimmy Garoppolo. Now there

962
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: are a couple of other things that then came after this.

963
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: So on Friday, the news afford goes back to the Rams.

964
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: So he's off the board. Now Aaron Rodgers needs a

965
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: new home. Giants brought up. The first thing that I

966
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 2: thought was, Wow, the Giants are really entertaining this over

967
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. That was my first thinking. If they would

968
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: rather bring in a forty one year old quarterback who

969
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: may only have a year left. We don't even know

970
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: if he has a year left, then sitting there at

971
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: number three in taking the Colorado quarterback a year after

972
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 2: they couldn't trade up into the top three to get

973
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: one of the quarterbacks that they were interested in. And

974
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: we know they were interested, and we saw it in

975
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: the offseason Hard Knocks with Joe Shane. So much of

976
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: the Barkley conversation gets brought up. But he did call

977
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: Elliott Wolf of the Patriots and said, what do you

978
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: want at three? And I think we're going to stick.

979
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: So he was at least willing to try to go

980
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: up and get his quarterback at that point. Now, if

981
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: you're sitting there bringing in Aaron Rodgers, I don't know

982
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: if you're bringing in Shoud or Sanders as well at

983
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: number three, if you're ready to go with the veteran

984
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: quarterback at that point, that was my first knee jerk

985
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: reaction when I saw the Giants could be interested in

986
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 2: bringing Aaron Rodgers across town.

987
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: Well, what that shows me and what that tells me

988
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: is already what I know. This is probably it for

989
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: day Ball. If he doesn't win this year, he's out.

990
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: So if you think about a one year rental, it

991
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: makes sense for that to me in that regard, But wouldn't.

992
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: It make sense to get the young quarterback and have success.

993
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: Like I know, it blew up in Matt Eberflus's face,

994
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: but it was gonna blow up anyway because of the

995
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: incompetency that they had in Chicago. But I've seen younger

996
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: seen coaches on the hot seat attach themselves to younger

997
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and stick around people. Forget that John Harball was

998
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: on the hot seat when Joe Flacco was falling off

999
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: they ended up putting Lamar Jackson in and the rest

1000
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: is history and John Harball is still the head coach

1001
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: of the Baltimore Ravens. That's where I think. That's why

1002
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: I think that if you're you may be afraid of

1003
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: having a wasted year like the Bears did with Caleb Williams.

1004
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how much Caleb Williams really learned this

1005
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: past year. Yeah, but you do run that risk if

1006
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: that coaching staff in that front office isn't going to

1007
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 2: be around next year. But if you're trying to save

1008
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: your job, I'd rather go with the young quarterback and

1009
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 2: if it works, then now you're like, hey, look we've

1010
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: got something going here. Let's not let's not ruin it.

1011
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: But there's also a scenario where you can do both.

1012
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: You can bring an ay Aaron Rodgers in for one

1013
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: year and have should Dors Sanders learn from him and

1014
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: not play that first year. I think that's a possibility

1015
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: as well. Yes, But then here here's my issue with that.

1016
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: The only thing would be is then we don't know

1017
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: what shouldhar Sanders is and if they end up going

1018
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: five and eleven, maybe we only see a little bit

1019
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 3: of should or Sanders, which.

1020
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: Is not enough to keep Brian Dabole around. And now

1021
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: you've your two biggest Your two biggest decisions this offseason

1022
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: have been at quarterback, and that tea probably needs a

1023
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: lot more. I was about to say they need a

1024
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: two way player like Travis Hunters what they need. I

1025
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: was about to say, yet, they need more than just

1026
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: a quarterback. That's not going to be an easy fixed

1027
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: there at all. Rogers name, by the way, was not

1028
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: named in a report from Adam Schefter about going to

1029
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: the Raiders. Schefter puts out of tweet saying, the Raiders,

1030
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: now without getting by not getting Stafford, are interested in

1031
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: In Donald and Yeah and Sam Donald and Russell Wilson

1032
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: and Justin Fields. And your facial expression does not translate

1033
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: to radios. Sure said a million words. I wish I

1034
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: could say, but I can't. The fact is is it

1035
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: would be very easy to put Aaron Rodgers. I thought

1036
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: the Raiders world possibility. I thought it would be a

1037
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: great possibility. Veteran coach Chip Kelly the offensive coordinators. Now

1038
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: we know how much he likes to run the ball yep.

1039
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: And I thought the Raiders haven't at least enough Cachet

1040
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: to support Nearaon Rodgers, like, he's not gonna go to

1041
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: the Titans number one overall pick. They're gonna probably take

1042
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: cam Ward anyway, but it's just gonna not gonna be

1043
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: his deal. He needs to be with the Jets, a

1044
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: New York team, an LA team, a team like the Raiders,

1045
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: but they were schefter, didn't even put Aaron Rodgers in

1046
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: the tweet to talk about it.

1047
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: So I think you're telling me we talked about this,

1048
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: as you said, you think Aaron's you think he's done,

1049
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 3: you think this is it.

1050
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: I don't know why a team wouldn't would go down

1051
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 2: this road. And you enlighten me a little bit more

1052
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: last week where I took the l and when we

1053
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: were talking about the numbers and numbers don't tell all,

1054
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: but I think I was short changing Rogers. It's just

1055
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: the point of I don't know what team like. The

1056
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: Jets were the perfect marriage for Aaron Rodgers for what

1057
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: they needed. Agree now, that didn't work out the way

1058
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: that they wanted, but it was it was a great

1059
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: on the on paper, was a great marriage. I don't

1060
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: know if there's any other situation in the NFL that

1061
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: would be great for Aaron Rodgers right now, outside of

1062
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 2: maybe the Raiders. I'm I'm with you. I mean, I

1063
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: was excited for the.

1064
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: Possibility of Like I said, I didn't think Stafford was

1065
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: going anywhere, but if he did, him being here, he

1066
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 3: has a house here, an established coach, a strong running game,

1067
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: defenses on the up and up, like it would have

1068
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: made sense. But outside of that, I don't see another

1069
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 3: spot either.

1070
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: Which is yeah, crazy and it's funny too because I

1071
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: don't think there's as much excitement about Sam Darnold because

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Speaker 2: of how they end of the season. There's no excitement

1073
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: about Russell Wilson with how they ended the season. So

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Speaker 2: this Kirk Cousins we think is going to stay in

1075
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: Atlanta for the time being, but I think that can

1076
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: obviously change if if someone shows an interest. But the

1077
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: quarterback market I think really would have been spiced up

1078
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: by a Stafford move, But since he stays home now,

1079
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Speaker 2: it kind of just fades into mediocrity. I agree. He's

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Speaker 2: Carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. We are live from the

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Speaker 2: tyrerec dot Com studios at Carry Up at Carry twenty

1082
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Speaker 2: five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.

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00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: Coming up next will be joined by our NFL insider

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00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan, who will give us the inside dirt of

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00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: what's happening at the NFL combine and who made the

1086
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: biggest name for themselves this week, that's next year. On

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, He's carry roads. I'm

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00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: Dan Byer March second Madness continuing just to let you

1089
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: know Carrie and easy as one, two, three, four two

1090
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: college basketball questions today NBA and NFL the other two.

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00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: Garry's going to go for a perfect score of ten

1092
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: after we talked to our NFL incenter, Adam Kaplan, but

1093
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: I'm on Exit Kaplin NFL. Read them on the Pro

1094
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: Football Network. Also hear them on the Inside the Birds podcast.

1095
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Speaker 2: All right, guys, quick thoughts on both of your Mavericks

1096
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: team putting forth an effort. Adam will give the floor

1097
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Speaker 2: to you against the Lakers. Was that good enough playing

1098
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: against Luka Doncicch midweek or do you expect more from

1099
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: your short handed squad?

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00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1101
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: That was well.

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Speaker 9: First of all, the MAVs got they got crushed yesterday

1103
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 9: against the Bucks.

1104
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 2: But Adam, we're not talking about that. We're talking about

1105
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: the Lakers.

1106
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 9: I know, you know it's just one of those situations

1107
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 9: where you go, you know what, I'll take it.

1108
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 5: Does it make the week?

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00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know their records on very good

1110
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 9: by the way, they're barely above five hundred. But look

1111
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 9: they lost to the Lakers. Look at look they look.

1112
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 9: MAVs lost the Lakers. That was a tough loss.

1113
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, the MAVs are just not very good.

1114
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 9: I'm not I just like when we talked about the

1115
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 9: Luca trade, we we kind of understand what the matter

1116
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 9: we're doing there because you know what kind of shape

1117
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 9: is in and all that. You can't replace somebody like that.

1118
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 9: That's the point. That's the point. And look, you saw

1119
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 9: what happened yesterday against the Bucks that got blown out

1120
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Speaker 9: at home.

1121
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 5: That's just not good.

1122
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 9: I'm not sure if that also, I wonder how they've

1123
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 9: reacted emotionally, Carrie. You being a former NFL player, when

1124
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 9: if you give away you're like your best player, it's

1125
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 9: got a bit.

1126
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 5: There's gotta be some emotional toll.

1127
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: It's an emotional toll. But I think the rallying cry,

1128
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: it's it's it's there. They're they're playing hard. That does

1129
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: not hold right, and so so many injuries. I mean PJ.

1130
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 3: Washington tried to play yesterday. He's injured angle he left

1131
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: the game early. But you're missing your whole front court

1132
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: and PJ. Washington's the four. So PJ. Washington, Anthony Davis,

1133
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 3: Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively, Caleb Martin, this want.

1134
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Speaker 2: To You can't win with that line. That line, No

1135
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: you can't. So that's what I'm saying. I'm optimistic. And

1136
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: if you think I'm a bad guy, we could have

1137
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: talked about my bucks, but I left the floor to

1138
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: you guys. Let's go into more pressing matters, the NFL combine.

1139
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: It's just rarely you get two Dallas Mavericks fans together

1140
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: on a radio show outside of Dallas. Let's be a

1141
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: leap here, all right. You spent the week in Indianapolis.

1142
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: Carry and I were just talking about this Matthew Stafford deal.

1143
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: This is what shocks me about it was there was

1144
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: the report Thursday night that he and the Raiders were

1145
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: reached common ground on contract numbers, and then immediately a

1146
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 2: deal gets done for him to go back to the Rams.

1147
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: So my question to you is how serious were the Rams?

1148
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: And really moving on from Matthew Stafford's.

1149
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 5: Here's what I'll add, I don't think this is out there.

1150
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 9: So I because I kind of knew what was happening

1151
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 9: behind scenes that the Rams really didn't want to trade him.

1152
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 9: He wanted to be back, but you know, they gave

1153
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 9: him the opportunity to see what's out there in terms

1154
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 9: of money. I did look into it. They were not

1155
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 9: on russ like you always look to see, Okay, what

1156
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 9: if they change their mind and they want to move Stafford,

1157
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 9: who do they like? I checked on Russell Wilson. Nope,

1158
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 9: they weren't interested. They weren't interested in Rogers or Fields.

1159
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Speaker 2: That's it.

1160
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Speaker 9: And there was really no one else that I know.

1161
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 9: Jimmy Garoppolo's up. I mean that they could bring him back,

1162
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 9: but that's not an answer.

1163
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 5: They weren't in on anyone. That was the thing that

1164
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 5: I got.

1165
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 9: I was really looking for that, and that's kind of

1166
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 9: what I was told by multiple people.

1167
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 5: So that told me a pretty good story. By Wednesday.

1168
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 9: Now what happened was is they just wanted him to

1169
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 9: see what the value was. Now this new deal, by

1170
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 9: the way, he's getting a pay increase. This is not

1171
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 9: just a restructure, this is actually more money. The number

1172
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 9: one thing that he's getting more money and to do

1173
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 9: what they had a restructure within the cap. But he's

1174
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 9: getting more money. I have not gotten the breakdown yet.

1175
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 9: I'm very curious to see how much more money they

1176
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 9: gave him. I just if you're Matthew Stafford and Jimmy

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00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 9: Sexon's agent, you can't take below fifty million a year.

1178
00:56:59,280 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: You just can't.

1179
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 9: He's he has not slowed up. I mean I talked

1180
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 9: about this last week. I think, yeah, on your show

1181
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 9: or with Steve Hartman. Then the reason why his numbers

1182
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 9: weren't great last season is, don't forget Pooka Nakooa had

1183
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 9: a very certificate knee Injuria, pcl sprain. Cooper Cup where

1184
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 9: they're going to move away from sounds like he had

1185
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 9: the high ankle sprain. So you're without your two best

1186
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 9: pass tarkets for a specific amount of time, Well, you're

1187
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 9: not going to overcome them. That's when the numbers weren't great.

1188
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 9: But he still played well, yeah, that's what I call it.

1189
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 9: I called it the ultimate game of Chicken. But it

1190
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 9: was a real quick game. I was like, yeah, they're

1191
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 9: not getting rid of Matthew Stafford. What's I mean, there's no.

1192
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 5: More, what are the options?

1193
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, the market, Kerry, I might I try to explain

1194
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 9: this on Fisart the last couple of weeks.

1195
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 5: If you're moving on, who was your replacement? This is

1196
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 5: a historically bad for agent class. It's Sam Donald and

1197
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 5: everybody else. It's it And and look, we know Donald

1198
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 5: his last week games were dreadful. He's still going to

1199
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Speaker 5: get paid, He's still going to get a good deal.

1200
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 5: They're going to be four to six teams in it.

1201
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 9: But you know, in the end and quarterback wise, I

1202
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 9: could tell you it's also not very.

1203
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 5: Good for the draft.

1204
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say I told Carrie, and

1205
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: I said this earlier in the week that on Friday

1206
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 2: when this happened, that I thought the Rams used Aaron

1207
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: Rodgers as a pawn because that was the name that

1208
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: was brought in and there were a couple of couple

1209
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: of connections with that in him.

1210
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 9: I didn't feel, be honest with it, I didn't feel

1211
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 9: like that was going to be real.

1212
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 5: I don't I don't see them. I don't. I strongly

1213
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 5: believe they would not have pursued him. It was he

1214
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 5: may have been on.

1215
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 9: Their list, but it's again, when when you when you

1216
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 9: decide you're going to move away from your startup, check

1217
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 9: their position.

1218
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 5: Well, what what's your recourse? This is just not a

1219
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 5: good year.

1220
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: There was buzz with Rogers, though connected like in the

1221
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: in the in your business of insiders or people saying stuff.

1222
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: I felt that the Rogers conversation was louder than than

1223
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: anybody else.

1224
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 9: Well, I'd say this, there's a fit from West Coast offense.

1225
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 9: There's absolute fit from Schematically, he could just walk right

1226
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 9: in there. He knows the scheme. But I did get

1227
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 9: the feeling though that they were willing to go with

1228
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 9: a one year solution. That's the only thing I got

1229
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 9: from the Rams camp is that if for some reason

1230
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 9: they did a one to eighty, which was not gonna happen,

1231
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 9: but if they did, they could have taken a shot

1232
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 9: on a veteran free agent, whether's bringing Garoppolo back. They

1233
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 9: like Jimmy and he knows that scheme. I mean, he's

1234
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 9: played in it for most of his career. They could

1235
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 9: have taken a look at something else. But there's gonna

1236
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 9: be some interesting Rodgers there, a little bit more than

1237
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 9: I probably thought. I'm not saying there's could be ten teams.

1238
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 9: He wants to play, by the way, that was another

1239
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 9: thing I got. There's no question he wants to play again.

1240
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 9: Unless he changes his mind, there'll be an opportunity. But man,

1241
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 9: one thing I want to add. You know, he had two.

1242
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 5: Injuries last season which were significant.

1243
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 9: Told he had them at the same time, a Grade

1244
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 9: two hamstring strain and a MCL sprain.

1245
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 5: I don't know how you could play with that as

1246
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 5: his quarterback.

1247
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was tough. Now let's move on from the

1248
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: quarterback situations. Let's go to the big news that we

1249
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 3: got yesterday, the Deebo Samuel tray to s to the commanders.

1250
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 3: How do you see that being a fit for both sides?

1251
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, carry, I know people are surprised. How could they

1252
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 9: only get a fifth round pick. It's obviously not the

1253
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 9: blockbuster people thought it would be. Okay, here's what happened.

1254
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 9: I also said this last year when so just Ricky

1255
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 9: Piersoll was traded, She's traded, drafted. Someone was going to

1256
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 9: go either Samuel Ayuk in twenty twenty five. Now, the

1257
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 9: Ayuk situation was bizarre. I mean, as you know, somehow

1258
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 9: they figured out to get that extension done when it

1259
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 9: looked ugly, when ironically, you know, Washington was in it

1260
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 9: on that the sweepstakes. Prior to the draft, they were

1261
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 9: working on it, and they did not want to give

1262
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 9: up the compensation that would cost to get him, so

1263
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 9: they backed off.

1264
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 5: This is too easy to do for them.

1265
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 9: Now when you look at the forty nine Ers situation,

1266
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 9: Iyuke's coming off of the MCL and particularly ACL repair,

1267
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 9: so you don't know how he's going to be next season.

1268
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 9: They're now really light a wide receiver where they were

1269
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 9: really strong in depth and versatility. Ricky Pearsoll will be

1270
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 9: a starter now we know what happened off the field

1271
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 9: was unfortunately, Thank god, he's okay with a gunshot situation.

1272
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 9: But he's you know, he back late in the season.

1273
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 9: He also had a hamstring problem by the way, but

1274
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 9: he's he's.

1275
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 5: Good to go and everything else.

1276
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 9: I mean, when you look at the Niner situation, they're

1277
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 9: kind of they're kind of a semi rebuild with that

1278
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 9: receiver position. Pierceel is good to go and everything. You know,

1279
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 9: George Kittle probably was probably going to get a redo here.

1280
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 9: They just got it, and they're going to get brought

1281
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 9: Perty's deal done. That's going to happen folks, that's definitely

1282
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Speaker 9: gonna happen. But getting to Washington, this is a no

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Speaker 9: brainer for them. They're extremelyate the receiver position. They had

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Speaker 9: to do something. They only have to give a fifth

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Speaker 9: round pick. They'll pick up his option bonus, which is

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Speaker 9: I think over fifteen million, and he's got a very

1287
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Speaker 9: small base seller, so they're seventeen and a half million.

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Speaker 9: They could look to extend it. He's twenty nine years old,

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Speaker 9: Deebo Samuel, he's had a lot of injuries. I don't

1290
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Speaker 9: blame him so much for what happened last season. I

1291
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Speaker 9: think parties drop off, party's injuries.

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Speaker 5: And here's one thing.

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Speaker 9: Here's another reason why they're not ers, or that they

1294
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Speaker 9: actually the mark was not good for about Samuel is

1295
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 9: a very specific type of receiver. He's not a deep threat,

1296
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Speaker 9: he's not a NYE route runner. You better know how

1297
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Speaker 9: to use this guy.

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Speaker 5: He's very specific and if you don't get it, it's

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Speaker 5: not going to work.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder if it will. I just we started

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Speaker 2: the show with this topic, and I just I feel

1302
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: everybody went head over heels because while look at the

1303
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Speaker 2: commanders and to me, there's just everything's not going to

1304
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: go right. For Washington like it did this past year. Sorry,

1305
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: it's just not going to I know that Jaden Daniels

1306
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: is the quarterback of the future and all of that,

1307
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: but just not everything is going to fall into place

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Speaker 2: like it did last year. I think that Deebo was

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's fighting with his kicker and long snapper

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Speaker 2: in a game like this. I just you know, weird.

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Speaker 3: I remember, it's just he's only twenty nine years old. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: why does it seem like he's like thirty three? His

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Speaker 3: name's Debo, That's why. That's why it seems like an

1314
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Speaker 3: old name. H Adam kapla Joining is here on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. Hit him up at Kaplan NFL. I want

1316
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Speaker 3: to talk quarterbacks at the combine. Obviously you know you

1317
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: should or didn't work out Kim Woard, but we did

1318
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: see Jackson Dart Quinnyewers.

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Speaker 2: Where are we with those quarterbacks after the top two

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Speaker 2: that we saw or that we believe are gonna go

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Speaker 2: with the the first two quarterbacks taken? What about Darts

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01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: and yeah, Tyler shout uh boy.

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Speaker 9: He's a kid, and he not that the forty time

1324
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 9: really means much for a quarterback, but he ran a

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Speaker 9: four to six.

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Speaker 3: Three, which I was impressed because I mean, I'll watched

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Speaker 3: him a lot in Louisville, so M crazy.

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Speaker 9: He's he's one of those sleepers, like the media doesn't

1329
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 9: know a lot about him. He's probably gonna go around

1330
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 9: the second round a lot higher than people think. He

1331
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Speaker 9: was a susceinable participant. So let's talk about Quinn yours

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Speaker 9: Quinn Ewers.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

1334
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 9: Now, I get a bet I got better context from

1335
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 9: his situation last season.

1336
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Speaker 5: So and you know he had an oblique strain, folks,

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 9: Know as a quarterback because you know, if you're a

1339
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 9: picture of your bleak string, you'll be down six to

1340
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 9: eight weeks. He actually played throw you cannot really throw,

1341
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 9: so it He actually had two injuries to his left

1342
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 9: and right side. So that's why he's struggled at times

1343
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 9: throwing the football. He look, he's over. I'm told he's healthy. One.

1344
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: This is a good thing for him that he was

1346
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 5: at the combin.

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Speaker 9: See, this is why the combine is good for gods

1348
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 9: like that, because you could show that you're healthy, and

1349
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 9: that was a big thing for him.

1350
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 5: Who is the other quarterback you were talking about?

1351
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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to bring up Jackson Dart, but

1352
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: I want to bring up something with yours, okay, and

1353
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: I feel that this is legit, so quin yours and

1354
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: just because I'm an Ohio State fan, and sure you know,

1355
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: he committed to Ohio State then he reclassified and one

1356
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: of the reasons why he reclassified was because he couldn't

1357
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: make nil money in Texas as a high school player.

1358
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: So he goes to Ohio State and his ends up

1359
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: making nil money through some sort of drink company because

1360
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: he's a collegiate freshman and you can make nil. He

1361
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Speaker 2: spends the year at Ohio State in transfers, then to

1362
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: Texas takes over immediately, and now honestly it's kind of

1363
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: pushed out because arch Manning is waiting. He's the Adam.

1364
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: He's the first guy that I wonder if he's not

1365
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: going to reach his potential because of nil Like, I

1366
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: think Ohio State would have been a better place for

1367
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 2: him to develop as a quarterback than at Texas. And know,

1368
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: people's a sarkesi in the whole deal. I think Ohio

1369
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: State would have been a better spot for him. And

1370
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Speaker 2: if he didn't reclassify early, he would have been on

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Speaker 2: more of a track to enter the NFL at the

1372
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Speaker 2: right time, and I think it's just he's just he's

1373
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: about to turn twenty two years old. It just was

1374
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: everything was fast tracked. And I think it's just something

1375
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Speaker 2: to at least watch with his progression throughout his career,

1376
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: because I don't he was he was a five star

1377
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: ten point zero quarterback coming out of high school high school,

1378
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: and I don't know if he got the full experience

1379
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: that he needed to college to translate to the NFL.

1380
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Speaker 9: Well, I can say that's the fact that he's healthy

1381
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 9: is the most is the biggest thing, because that was

1382
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 9: a real issue. And why did he drop off? Why

1383
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 9: did he not look right? Well, now we have the

1384
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 9: answers is that he had multiple injuries. So we'll have

1385
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,959
Speaker 9: to say, but again, guys, this draft, I mean, look,

1386
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 9: Jackson starts. Another guy that I sought the Super Bowl.

1387
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 9: He's not going to be for everybody. He's got a

1388
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 9: little bit of an odd throw motion, but he's pretty good.

1389
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 9: Like he's a guy should go in the second round,

1390
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 9: could go maybe in back of the first. There's a

1391
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Speaker 9: saying in the National Footballager when you don't have one

1392
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 9: you're looking for, and that's quarterback they're just the supply

1393
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 9: is not met demand it's and the quarterback position gets

1394
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 9: pushed up. Guys go sometimes way before they should.

1395
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Speaker 3: Jackson Dark, Yeah, that's Dark's my guy. What we talked

1396
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Speaker 3: about it. I think he's a guy that I think

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Speaker 3: can really play. Like you watch him obviously, like you said, Adam, like,

1398
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Speaker 3: he doesn't have the prototypical release, but most of the

1399
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks don't. Now they're all thrown from different arm angles, right,

1400
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: So I think we're seeing these kids picking up these

1401
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to call them bad habits or bad

1402
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: traits early on because that's what they're seeing seeing on

1403
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 3: the pro level, but they're picking up those idiosyncrasies, right,

1404
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 3: So that's part of it. But when you watch him

1405
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 3: play and play against top talent in the SEC, the

1406
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: guy can play. So I put more stock into that

1407
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 3: than what he does in shorts in these pro days

1408
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 3: and stuff.

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01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, the combine and look, it's bet the medicals. We

1410
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 9: didn't have time and maybe we'll talk about Abdul Carter

1411
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 9: next week. That that was by far the biggest story

1412
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,959
Speaker 9: of the week. That one, that stress reaction. I've covered

1413
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,959
Speaker 9: that injury, which is actually a common MBA injury. When

1414
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 9: it's a precursor to a fracture, potentially it has to

1415
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 9: be watched. We'll learn more about that in the coming weeks,

1416
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 9: about how clubs feel about it. I know Drew Rosenus,

1417
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 9: his agent, said he'll be good to go with Protain

1418
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 9: and that's fine, but I'm going to be looking to

1419
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 9: see what clubs feel about that injury.

1420
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: Before we let you go. We had a Travis Hunter

1421
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: conversation earlier. I do want to bring up a point

1422
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: that Martin Weiss, who's at our news desk. Martin hosts

1423
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: all over the network brought up as well about Hunter

1424
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: and if he was just a cornerback like some people

1425
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: feel that he should be in the NFL, would he

1426
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: still be a top three, top five pick? Was the

1427
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: What was the buzz about Hunter? Him playing both ways

1428
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: and where he may go?

1429
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, he'll be a corner that plays some receiver. Now,

1430
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 9: I know there are a couple teams. One I forget

1431
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 9: which GM said. I was there and I just can't

1432
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 9: remember which one. They said, Oh, no, he could, he'll

1433
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 9: be received. I think he'll be a receiver for us

1434
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 9: and maybe a corner if we drafted him. I was

1435
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 9: kind of surprised by that. It's it's kind of universal.

1436
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 9: He's going to be a corner first and change up

1437
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 9: as a receiver. Cornerback has got way better valued clubs

1438
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 9: now without the ability to play receiver. Yes, he's not

1439
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 9: a top ten pick. Here's the versatility is what's so intriguing.

1440
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 9: He's a very good corner. Let's not forget. I mean,

1441
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 9: he's an exceptional corner. But his ability to do two

1442
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 9: different things. You can't overwork him. This is not this

1443
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 9: is not the Dean Sandwich thing. It's a little different

1444
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,480
Speaker 9: and people bring it up. This is different, but it's fascinating.

1445
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 9: This is another thing before we get out here. This

1446
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 9: is this is also not a great first round. We'll

1447
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 9: talk about the first round grades that are out there.

1448
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 9: You know, thirty two picks, but they're not thirty two

1449
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 9: first round grades.

1450
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 5: Trust man, that went not even close.

1451
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 2: Wow do we get twenty No? No, I heard like ten.

1452
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 9: Like that I've got last year, depending which team I

1453
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 9: talked to, they were sixteen to twenty two.

1454
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: I thought that was a little bit high.

1455
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 5: So last year year have clearly on paper looks better.

1456
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 9: I'm picking around twelve, but I don't have a heart

1457
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 9: it's too early because remember, we got to get we

1458
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 9: got to get how these clubs readjust there's they're a

1459
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 9: little there's a little bit of moving from the combine,

1460
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 9: not a lot. You don't you don't overdo it. It's

1461
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 9: the combine is small comparitive to everything else.

1462
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: All Right, Adam, enjoy the rest of the week, and

1463
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 2: we will talk to you next weekend. So it's good things,

1464
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 2: all right. He's Adam Kaplan, that's carry Road. I'm Dan Byer.

1465
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: The aforementioned Martin Weiss is at the news desk giving

1466
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: us the latest of what has happened. That answer is

1467
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 2: suffice sufficient from from Adam Kaplan's your question that you posed.

1468
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,839
Speaker 7: I like it though, because I think it's an interesting

1469
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 7: thought exercise. If it was just a cornerback, I agree.

1470
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: Like top ten, sure, top two.

1471
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you also heard him say it's only ten

1472
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 3: first round or so, you know what I mean?

1473
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel you. All right, let's go to the NBA.

1474
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 7: We just had a game wrap uppery. The Cleveland Cavaliers

1475
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 7: came from behind, had made up a a ten point

1476
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 7: fourth quarter deficit to go ahead and get to win

1477
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,919
Speaker 7: in overtime one thirty three to one twenty nine, Cleveland

1478
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 7: proves to twenty eight and four at home. Earlier today,

1479
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 7: we saw the Celtics beat the Nuggets one ten to

1480
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 7: one oh three. Right now got three games in action

1481
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 7: at the end of the first quarter. Nearing the end

1482
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 7: of the first quarter, I should say the Raptors lead

1483
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 7: the Magic twenty four to seventeen with just under eleven

1484
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 7: minutes gone and just under eleven minutes remaining. Rather in

1485
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 7: the first half, the Heat have a twenty nine to

1486
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 7: twenty six lead over the next. Make that thirty two

1487
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 7: to twenty six lead over the Heat, I'm sorry.

1488
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: Over the next.

1489
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 7: And the Bulls have a the Bulls in the Pacers

1490
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 7: right now, twelve to fifteen left. In the third quarter,

1491
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 7: Indiana has a ninety four to eighty nine lead over Chicago.

1492
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 7: Kobe White with twenty four points, Tyres Haliburton with a

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Speaker 7: double double, seventeen points and ten assists. Men's college basketball,

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 7: we saw with Michigan State beat Wisconsin in a battle

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01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 7: of ranked Big Ten teams. Michigan State seventy one to

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Speaker 7: sixty two. Spartans the eighth ring team the Badgers of

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 7: the eleventh fifteenth ranked Michigan got smoked at home today

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01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 7: by Illinois ninety three two seventy three, getting out scored

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Speaker 7: in the second half by nineteen points, and Memphis came

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Speaker 7: from behind in the second half to beat UAB the

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 7: eighteenth thrank Tigers with an eighty eight to eighty one final.

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01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: Score over UAB.

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01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 7: The New York Jets are considering trading I'm sorry taking

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01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 7: calls on trading DeVante Adams. If they're not able to

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01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 7: trade him, they will consider releasing through wide receiver. That's

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01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 7: per Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network, Carrie Dan back

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01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 7: to you guys.

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01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 2: That's what I forgot to ask Adam. Did he get

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 2: in any fights with ever any other insiders ever in

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01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: his time? Crazy?

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01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 7: My money would be on Kaplan by the way, Yeah, yes,

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01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 7: I wouldn't mess with Adams.

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 3: Imagine fighting another reporter at the place that your dad owns.

1514
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would soon, you know, I mean, like that's

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01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: just reckless. Imagine calling NFL security. What are we doing

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01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: all right? These carry roads. I'm Dan Byer Martin Wise

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01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: at the news desks. Our executive producer, Mary Mack, technical producer.

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01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: Easy as one two three four is going to be

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01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: moved to seven twenty Eastern time for twenty Pacific because

1520
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: coming up next, we have got a news about a

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01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 2: comeback that you wouldn't believe. The reason behind it may

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01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: shock you. He's carried Roads. I'm Dan Byer live from

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01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: the tirerec dot Com Studios. That's next on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. Happy Sunday to you. You know, next

1525
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: week in most parts of this country, the clocks will

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01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: have been changed. Daylight Savings begins a week from today,

1527
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: less than a week now. Because it happens at like

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01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 2: two o'clock in the morning on Sunday, March ninth. Yes,

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: it'll be light out later. I don't like it. What

1530
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: I like it to be dark at four o'clock so

1531
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: I can go to sleep. That's right, you all right

1532
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: about that? I'll tex scarry something out like eight o'clock

1533
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: at night and I don't hear anything kind of like

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: five two am. You know, Like, yeah, Carrie Rhodes is

1535
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: liked your tweet, liked your text. Yeah, crazy, it's crazy,

1536
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: but I am looking forward to it very much. I'm

1537
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: also an evening golf person. Golfing in the morning is great,

1538
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, But I growing up would play

1539
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 2: in the evenings and try to, you know, play until

1540
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: it's dark and see how it's kind of fun too.

1541
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: How far can you play in? How dark it is?

1542
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 2: But so next week we'll be changing clocks. Travis kelce

1543
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: is not changing anything. He's going to be back with

1544
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs next season. Chiefs had wanted a

1545
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: decision by the start of the new league year. He

1546
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,959
Speaker 2: gave the decision to Pat McAfee on The Pat mcavie

1547
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: Show and a text message. I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said,

1548
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 2: I don't like the way I played in the Super Bowl.

1549
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: I do not want to go out like that. I

1550
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: am ready to come back in twenty twenty five. Do

1551
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: you think that Travis Kelcey made the right decision?

1552
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 3: The right decision would have been to just send the

1553
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 3: facts that says I'm back. Michael George, Yes, yeah, that

1554
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 3: would have in the right decision. But no, I think

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01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 3: he's I don't think it's the right decision. Obviously, as

1556
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 3: an athlete, you don't want to go out feeling like

1557
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 3: you could have done something better, or you can you know,

1558
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 3: you left some food on the table. That's that's a

1559
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: prime athlete's worst nightmare right, and he did. He stunk

1560
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: up the joint and in the Super Bowl he was

1561
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: dropping past us, couldn't get open. It was the worst

1562
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 3: version of Travis Kelce we saw, and so for that

1563
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 3: to be the last the lasting image. Obviously he wants

1564
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: to come back, but as an organization as the Chiefs,

1565
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: is he going to make you better? And is he

1566
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 3: going to have Is he going to give you enough

1567
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 3: juice for you to get back to where you're ultimately

1568
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 3: trying to get to?

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01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 3: So that's what the dilemma is, right, him personally making

1571
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 3: the decision to come back would be more of a

1572
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 3: selfish reason of coming back the things that I just stated.

1573
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 3: But will he give you enough to be the best

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 3: version of himself to get you back to the I'm land?

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01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so. How easy is it to come back?

1576
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: Like I and I phrase it that way because I

1577
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: know it's very difficult to hang them up? But is

1578
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 2: it an easy decision to go back and play again

1579
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 2: if you're in Travis Kelsey's shoes?

1580
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: Well there's two ways to think about that. Like I

1581
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: just say you you you wet the bed? Yep, I

1582
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 3: have to prove that I'm better than that, so he'll

1583
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 3: have the drive to come back and want to do it.

1584
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 3: The second part of that is is his body going

1585
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 3: to cooperate. He's older, sure to get up numbers, prove it,

1586
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 3: to get up every morning and consistently continuously do what

1587
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 3: it takes to be great at that craft.

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 2: It's just not easy.

1589
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 3: And so and he has other things he does off

1590
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 3: the field and stuff that he wants to do.

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: So I just don't know. I think it's a very

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01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: difficult decision. His numbers three touch down receptions fewest of

1593
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,839
Speaker 2: his career, the eight hundred and twenty three yards receiving

1594
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,799
Speaker 2: that he had fewest in his career, the average yardage

1595
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 2: per reception lowest in his career eight point five. He

1596
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 2: had never had a season, heck, before twenty twenty three,

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01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: he had never had a season where he had an

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01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 2: average catch less than twelve yards. He had an average

1599
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: of eight point five yards per reception this past year. Yeah,

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 2: and so it is. It has not been great. The

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01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: number of first downs, obviously, when your numbers somewhat dwindle,

1602
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 2: but the first downs whereas lowest since his second year

1603
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 2: in the league. Everything is trending downwards with Travis Kelson.

1604
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: At some point the Chiefs have to figure out a

1605
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: plan forward. What I actually think is difficult is, yeah,

1606
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: seeing what you put on tape in super Bowl fifty

1607
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: nine is not a good look. But I also think

1608
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,919
Speaker 2: in where he is in society and in pop culture

1609
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: and in dating Taylor Swift, there is I think it

1610
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 2: is even more in the forefront of his of what

1611
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: am I going to do. I think we would think

1612
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: on the surface that you would be like, well, you

1613
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: could retire now, and you'd have so many opportunities. But

1614
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: he is known as Travis Kelce, the Kansas City Chiefs,

1615
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: all pro tight end, you know, super Bowl champion, and

1616
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: to show that and walk away from that, I think

1617
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: it's very, very difficult. And that's the part where I

1618
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 2: think of it's not of I need to keep up

1619
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: my end of my celebrity bargain with my partners. That's

1620
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: not it. But she's going to have her things. She's

1621
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: a musician. She's going to write albums and tour for

1622
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: the next forty years. He's ninety. Yes, yes, like that's

1623
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 2: that's the fact of the matter. What do you do? Listen?

1624
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: The New Heights podcast is not the same if he's

1625
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: not playing anymore, if you now you have two retired

1626
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: guys doing that podcast who aren't in the locker room

1627
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: and being able to give those stories. They have great

1628
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: personalities and the great guests on, but it's not the same.

1629
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 2: I think that's a part of it. Like I almost

1630
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 2: feel like he's he feels obligated to continue playing because

1631
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: he has to be Travis Kelcey now and I'm using

1632
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: the air quotes that you can't see on radio. But

1633
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: he wasn't always Travis Kelcey and now he is, and

1634
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: I think that makes it even more difficult to leave

1635
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 2: the game.

1636
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 3: I think there's some truth to that, But I also

1637
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 3: think that with his affiliation with Taylor Swift, we've already

1638
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 3: seen those dividends payoff. He was just in the TV

1639
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 3: show this season that was out, so acting can be

1640
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 3: part of it, which I don't know how good it was.

1641
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: I didn't see it, but he's already did that. He

1642
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 3: asked the podcast he's hosted something I can't remember what

1643
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 3: it's like a TV source.

1644
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: But does he get those if he's just Travis or

1645
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 2: just Taylor Swift's boyfriend at this point?

1646
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, and That's why I say I think that's

1647
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 3: already cemented, because it's already happening now the football player,

1648
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 3: the football side of it.

1649
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: Will it be as.

1650
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 3: I guess, as prolonged of an experience having those opportunities.

1651
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 3: Maybe not, but he's already kind of dipped it too

1652
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: in the water, So I.

1653
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: Think it exists. I think it's tricky. I think Jason

1654
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 2: has done half the things that Travis would have done

1655
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: if if hadn't retired earlier. That's true. You know, the

1656
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: late night talk show and the whole deal that all

1657
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 2: could have been Travis's, but instead Jason got the first

1658
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: bite at the apple. Yeahna, it's gonna be interesting to say.

1659
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer. He

1660
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: is the all Pro. I'm just a radio guy live

1661
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: from the tierrach dot com studios. Could Pete Rose be

1662
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer now that he's dead? You heard

1663
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Speaker 2: the phrase too little, too late. I don't know if

1664
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 2: too little z apropos, but too late sure seems to be. Yes,

1665
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Speaker 2: he is Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer, and we are

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Speaker 2: should be our game of easy as one, two, three,

1671
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 2: four comes up in twenty minutes or so. Here on

1672
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, it is March second. We've told you

1673
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: that the madness is here. Has been some great college

1674
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: basketball this weekend, and just told you a little bit ago.

1675
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna change the clocks in most places around the

1676
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: country next week. Carries not on board. I am completely

1677
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: I should have a countdown. I should have an advent

1678
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 2: calendar for that. Like it is the best. I love it,

1679
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 2: absolutely cannot wait. I'm gonna put candy corn in your

1680
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 2: and I like candy corn. It's delicious. Yes you like

1681
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 2: candy corn? Yes, yes, I even will go with the

1682
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 2: How are you? What are you to judge? Looking forward

1683
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 2: to what March has in store? There was a story

1684
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: that broke over the weekend that had many people's eyebrows raised,

1685
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: including Carry Rhoades and myself. Yes, and it was a

1686
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 2: report from Don Van Not, a junior of ESPN, who

1687
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 2: says that Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred is considering a petition

1688
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: that was filed by the family of Pete Rose to

1689
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: have the all all time hit leader posthumously removed from

1690
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: Baseball's ineligible list. This is not the first time that

1691
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 2: Pete Rose and his family have tried to get him

1692
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,959
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame. Twenty fifteen, there was an effort,

1693
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 2: did not happen, But it is the first time since

1694
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: Pete Rose died last year that an effort has been

1695
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: made to get into the Hall of Fame. And representatives

1696
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 2: of Rose and his family filed the request in December

1697
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 2: and started the request and then we mentioned that it

1698
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 2: was filed in early January. So there's a possibility that

1699
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: Pete Rose, the late Pete Rose, could be reinstated for

1700
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 2: possible induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Carry Roads.

1701
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: When you hear that story, what is your reaction to

1702
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:52,879
Speaker 2: that news?

1703
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 3: It just makes my blood boil. This guy made a

1704
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 3: mistake along time ago. Obviously deservant stat wise as a hitter,

1705
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 3: as a player to have already been in the Hall

1706
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 3: of Fame. When you do this, when the guy is

1707
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: passed away and gone, obviously, the family legacy, all that stuff,

1708
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 3: I understand it. It is part of it, but he'll

1709
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 3: never know it. He'll never get to actually celebrate it

1710
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 3: and be celebrated for what he did is a player.

1711
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 3: It really makes me upset when they do that, like

1712
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 3: why now, why not three years ago when he was

1713
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: here and we've seen these petitions take place, We've seen

1714
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 3: him be remorseful for this, for what he did.

1715
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 2: It was wrong.

1716
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 3: But a lot of people who have done wrong things

1717
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 3: that are in the Hall of Fame. There's a lot

1718
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 3: of people that have done wrong that are in and

1719
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 3: positions of power in this in this world, Like give

1720
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 3: people their due when they're here. That's the part I

1721
01:22:58,600 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 3: hate the most.

1722
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: There was in pro football there was a long push

1723
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 2: to get Ken Stabler into the Hall of Fame, and

1724
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: the snake ends up passing away, and soon after he

1725
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: gets enshrined into the Hall of Fame. And you're just like,

1726
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: to your point about Pete Rose, why couldn't you have

1727
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: done Why couldn't you have done it earlier? But I

1728
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 2: don't think those situations are apples to apples. Ken Stabler

1729
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong. Ken Stabler was not on an

1730
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: eligible list. It was for some reason. His accomplishments and

1731
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: what he did were being ignored, and then when he

1732
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: passed away, oh okay, well this is different. That's and

1733
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: I actually think that that's a shame what I and

1734
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: I'm don't want to put words in your mouth, but

1735
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: I think because this it didn't affect me the way

1736
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 2: that it affected you. But I had the same feeling

1737
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 2: was that this was personal, that this is a personal decision.

1738
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 2: This isn't an administrative issue, This isn't following the rules

1739
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 2: that were set forth prior this became person because all

1740
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 2: of that other stuff was, well, these are the rules.

1741
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 2: Pe Rose has said that he had an agreement with

1742
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: Bartiamoni to be reinstated in the year Bartiamoni dies. So

1743
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: Fae Vinston says, well, guess what it's not on you know,

1744
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: this is what it was said. I don't know what

1745
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 2: you had with the previous commission, who's not here anymore.

1746
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 2: All I know is that you've been banned for baseball

1747
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: for life. And there have been opportunities and opportunities for

1748
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 2: maybe Pete Rose to be reinstated by Major League Baseball,

1749
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: but that was not the case. So to hear this

1750
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 2: is personal, and even to hear the reports from Don Van,

1751
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 2: not a junior in speaking to others that this was

1752
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 2: purposely done, that this may give grace to the family

1753
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: of Pete Rose, but by doing it when he passed

1754
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: was meant to be a punishment to Pete Rose up

1755
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: until that he died, and that makes it even worse. Yes,

1756
01:24:55,520 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: I it's go ahead, dad there. Pete Rose was not

1757
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 2: a saint by any means, and the reason why he

1758
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 2: was banned was he broke the cardinal rule and betting

1759
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: on baseball was what I think her Pete Rose was

1760
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 2: everything that he did from the time that he was

1761
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 2: banished to saying that he never bet on baseball, then

1762
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: releasing a book and saying, okay, well I did so.

1763
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: Now you're profiting off of that. You can say you're sorry.

1764
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: It's I think it's the autograph shows it's the signing

1765
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 2: the sorry I bet on baseball. Baseball's to make more money,

1766
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 2: make a mockery of, you know, to make a mockery

1767
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: of his actions. I think that all of that rubbed

1768
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,919
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball wrong, and I actually could be justified

1769
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 2: in feeling what major League Baseball felt because of that

1770
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: Pete Rose. Pete Rose, by the way, probably made more

1771
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 2: money because he was banned from baseball than if he

1772
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: wasn't if he was just a regular Hall of Famer

1773
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 2: who was the career hits leader. There's an argument to

1774
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 2: be made for that that the Pete Rose name was

1775
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 2: maybe more valuable because he was banned from baseball. But

1776
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: to say all the things that they say and then

1777
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: now have this happened. And I don't think it's to

1778
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 2: do it for the family like I think that there.

1779
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it's to open up things down the road. Who knows,

1780
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 2: who knows what the what the deal is. But it

1781
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: just felt personal. You took it harder than I did.

1782
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: It didn't didn't bother me as much. It just thought, whoa,

1783
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: that's cold, Like that's cold. You felt like you were

1784
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: actually hurt.

1785
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I was heard about it just because of

1786
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 3: the idea of somebody feeling like they are better than

1787
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 3: or they have the ability to hold a grudge over

1788
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 3: somebody to the point of hurting another person. Right, Like

1789
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 3: that's me just from the human human element, the human

1790
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 3: approach to life for me. You know, I'm a big

1791
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 3: person with the grace and being grateful and like actually

1792
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: respecting your other human beings. Right, we all make mistakes

1793
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 3: and we all know that we know what he did

1794
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 3: was wrong. There's no way around that, but holding the

1795
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 3: grudge for what is it thirty forty what is it

1796
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 3: forty years?

1797
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 2: Now?

1798
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 3: Like it's time to move on. And that's the point

1799
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 3: where give the man. It's Flowers, why HeSE here? That

1800
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 3: would have been a big celebration, even for baseball to

1801
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 3: have that, to bring him back into the fold, celebrate

1802
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 3: him as.

1803
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 2: Okay, this guy made a mistake, we got it. He

1804
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: did a time.

1805
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 3: Now is our time to show and give grace to

1806
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 3: this guy who brought us so many fans and.

1807
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: So much love and out a race into baseball. What's

1808
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: interesting is that Rose's representative told ESPN and I quote, legally,

1809
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 2: the lifetime ban is over. His lifetime is over. The

1810
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame is a rule that if you're on

1811
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 2: the one eligible list, you can't be considered. If he's

1812
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: taken off that list, there's still no guarantee. He gets

1813
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: into a unique situation because he's never been on a

1814
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame ballot. But if he gets in, it's

1815
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: a wonderful thing. He and then goes on to talk

1816
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: about the outpouring of emotion. That's the other part of it.

1817
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: Is Rob Manfred could say all right, off the ineligible list,

1818
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 2: but now the Baseball Hall of Fame has to say

1819
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: the Baseball Writers Association of a Maria Erica to put

1820
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: him on a ballot, and then he would have to

1821
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: be voted on, not likely by the writers and the

1822
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: ten names that they can pick. He would then be

1823
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 2: put into a category that is separate of classic players,

1824
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: which is not voted on every year. And it was

1825
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 2: pointed out that the grouping that he would be put

1826
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,600
Speaker 2: in for possible induction if Rob Manford signed off on,

1827
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be until twenty twenty seven, So that would

1828
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 2: be the time that Pete Rose could get into the

1829
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame if and then there are a lot

1830
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:34,879
Speaker 2: of ifs, if he's reinstated, if he's put on a ballot,

1831
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: and if he gets enough votes in that ballot. But

1832
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: it's just the fact that it seems like it's more

1833
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 2: possible now, yeah, than it ever has before. And this

1834
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 2: within the past twelve months of his passing just sure

1835
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 2: seems to be seems to be odd.

1836
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 3: It's perfect time and huh yes for them, Yeah, this

1837
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 3: is this is bad because also again, what it does

1838
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 3: is keep the conversation alive right now. It keeps baseball

1839
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 3: and in its own little window of I guess appreciation, right,

1840
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 3: and so like there's people talking about that right now.

1841
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 3: It's spring training and nothing else is going on with baseball.

1842
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 3: Now we're talking about baseball, and it's it profits them,

1843
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 3: it's not about Pete Rose.

1844
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 2: Do you think there would be an out pouring of

1845
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 2: of like excitement over this? See I think what what

1846
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: would happen is if he was in it does completely

1847
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 2: overshadow the weekend that is Cooper's Tom because of who

1848
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 2: he is. But I don't know on how many people

1849
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 2: are pouring into the ballpark to go and see the

1850
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 2: Pete Rose. I could be wrong, I could completely misjudge it.

1851
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,879
Speaker 2: But to go and see this happen when he's not there, yeah,

1852
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 2: you know like like that sort of like that sort

1853
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: of right. And if you're one of the players that

1854
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 2: gets in in that year, that's your data shine. And

1855
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: if you're a member of you know, can the City

1856
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 2: Royals or whatever, you're gonna have a bunch of Kansas

1857
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: City fans there they're gonna cheer you. I just wonder

1858
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 2: how many. I mean, he's a Cincinnati kid, but because

1859
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 2: it happened so long ago. I wonder if if it

1860
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: would carry and if it would have that level of

1861
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: notoriety if he was if he would still better if

1862
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 2: you would have been alive, I don't know if you

1863
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 2: could have. You could have put anybody else in that class.

1864
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 2: It just would have had to have been him for

1865
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 2: the whole time, considering the entire distraction that it would

1866
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 2: have been. I just just things to consider. But it

1867
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 2: sure seems that Rob Manford is considered and that this

1868
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 2: whole deal may have actually just been personal. Yeah, it's

1869
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: definitely personal. I agree, And maybe and the Hall of

1870
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 2: Fame is usually followed that even if the person is

1871
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 2: past that, they're they're still on the ineligible list, so

1872
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 2: they're still ineligible. We'll see if this argument from the

1873
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 2: Rose family stands. He is Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer,

1874
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Sunday. Who would have thought pet

1875
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 2: Rose would be in the news this, this point talked

1876
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 2: about more than maybe you know, anybody except showy Otani

1877
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 2: and John Carlo.

1878
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 3: Stanton's elbows ten as elbows, yeah, not elbow elbows.

1879
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 2: Yes, it's double double up by carry at Carrie twenty

1880
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 2: five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.

1881
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 2: Coming up next, Carrie is on the hot seat. How

1882
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: old does he know college basketball? And how well do

1883
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: you know college basketball? Play along with us next year

1884
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. He's carry Roads.

1885
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer, He's the All Pro Carry's also going

1886
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 2: to be in the hot seat easy As one, two,

1887
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 2: three four. Martin Weiss will be one of his lifelines.

1888
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 2: Mary Mack will so will Shay.

1889
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm always going to do, Dan, What's

1890
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 3: that We're gonna let you always get through your stuff

1891
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 3: and let you set it up.

1892
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I appreciate that I got

1893
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 2: you what the teammate does. That's what we do, and

1894
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 2: that's what we do here on Fox Sports Sunday and

1895
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 2: at Fox Sports Radio, and you know we always do.

1896
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 2: We always play easy As one, two, three four carry

1897
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 2: Roads goal is to get a perfect score of ten.

1898
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 2: But he doesn't have to do it himself. He's got

1899
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 2: three lifelines to help him out. Please don't take that one.

1900
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: Take that sheet of paper. I'm gonna need that one later,

1901
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. That's got something I have to

1902
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: say in like twenty minutes, I don't want to lose that.

1903
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to lose that piece of paper. I

1904
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 2: give Carrie four topics. He doesn't have to give me

1905
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 2: all the correct answers, just some of them. And again,

1906
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 2: perfect score of ten is what we're aiming for. You're

1907
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 2: ready to play easy as one, two, three, four, Yes,

1908
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 2: name one of two carry sites for this year's men's

1909
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 2: or women's final four. So you just have to tell

1910
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: me where the men's final four is at or where

1911
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 2: the women's Final four will be played, and you will

1912
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 2: get a point. Man, I'm gonna this is my geography.

1913
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 2: This is I love geography, I love maps, so this

1914
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 2: always kind of falls into this game a little bit.

1915
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,719
Speaker 2: Uh huh. You want to use a lifeline.

1916
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm using a lifeline for this one for sure, and

1917
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Martin.

1918
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 2: I know Martin knows this. He's on an update desk.

1919
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 2: He better know something. Oh wow wow depression.

1920
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, like I talked for for two minutes an hour,

1921
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 7: you you know forty uh. I believe this is a

1922
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 7: new place that's been attracting a lot of sports recently

1923
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 7: on the professional level.

1924
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 2: Vegas Dambire, I don't know that you want to so

1925
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 2: we need how many we need? Now? Just one? Just one?

1926
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, the man's or women's final four this year, I

1927
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 7: think one of. I believe the men's want to Fords

1928
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 7: in Vegas this year.

1929
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 3: So your final answer, Carrie, I'll trust I'll trust Martin

1930
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 3: on this.

1931
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 2: I should have trusted me. Is it Las Vegas? It

1932
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 2: is not? San Antonio is where the men will play?

1933
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 2: Is it San Antonio is where the women will play?

1934
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 2: I definitely one of the guests Tampa, no off and walking.

1935
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 2: You're uneasiest. One to three four perfect game is over,

1936
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 2: already out the window, but there's an opportunity to bombs

1937
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 2: back n B. A question coming up here, by the way,

1938
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 2: Mary macroshee, did you have San Antonio.

1939
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 4: Or Tampa venestly?

1940
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: Really? Mary mack, you would have said London Sunday in London?

1941
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, of course, of course.

1942
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 2: How are things going with that gentleman in London? I

1943
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 2: was listening.

1944
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 10: Sands is my man. That's so, you know the kids

1945
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 10: called it as being green, you.

1946
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 2: Know word, I hate sus.

1947
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 10: You're trying to be You're trying to be in my

1948
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 10: kool aid, all of my kool aid.

1949
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 8: I'm gonna Scott is my two.

1950
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 2: You're young. You can deal with it. I'm not cutting

1951
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 2: out of the podcast. That's all you need to do.

1952
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 8: I'll tell you the t though later.

1953
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 2: All right, No there no cap, no cap, no cap,

1954
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 2: no cap. All right, Name two of three leading scorers

1955
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 2: in the NBA this season entering today. Two of the

1956
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 2: three leading scorers points per game in the NBA entering today. Wow, wow,

1957
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 2: that's all two of the three leading scorers. We'll go, SGA. Okay,

1958
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder. They're obviously the best team in the West.

1959
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 2: Huh uh. Got another guess? Why am I? Why am

1960
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 2: I going blank on this?

1961
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 4: We could do this. You don't need any of our help, though.

1962
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 4: Just think of like people that always do it.

1963
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 2: No, SGA, I mean.

1964
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 7: I like that. This is advice. Think you guys who

1965
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 7: score a lot of points.

1966
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 4: Well, no, not only points. It's like they do it

1967
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 4: all like, just think about it, like.

1968
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 2: The Joker is Joker up there?

1969
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's having the MVP type season,

1970
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 3: but I don't know about the points.

1971
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 2: If it's one of the leaders, you want to go

1972
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 2: with that, I'll go SDA. Okay, Jokis yep, jokis, all right,

1973
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 2: show me Shay Gilgess, Alexander Numero Uno. Yes, that was

1974
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 2: really loud too. That was thirty two point three points

1975
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 2: per game entering today. Show me n Kola Jokich. There

1976
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 2: he has number three twenty nine point one points per game,

1977
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 2: sandwiched in between the two Jannison Teta Kumpo thirty point

1978
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 2: nine points per contest this season. Isn't it crazy that

1979
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 2: you forget about Jannis like you do?

1980
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 3: I know, I know Milwaukee guy guys that do it

1981
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 3: all Like, yeah, I guess, so you are.

1982
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though I was, I was kidding

1983
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 2: when I said that you are. You are correct. I

1984
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: do feel that people whether it be because he is

1985
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,480
Speaker 2: so consistent with his effort and what he does exactly,

1986
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 2: and also they've they're now removed and it's gonna be

1987
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 2: four seasons since they won the title. There have been

1988
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 2: so many other like teams that have been making their

1989
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: moves and they haven't really done anything right that you

1990
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,799
Speaker 2: can kind of get lost in the shuffle. I agree

1991
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 2: with that. All right, two points four carry roads two

1992
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 2: of three so far? Are you ready for question number three?

1993
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:11,719
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Name three of the four most recent

1994
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 2: number one overall picks. In the NFL draft that weren't quarterbacks.

1995
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 2: That scow. My god, three of the four. Okay, you

1996
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 2: should know this. These are like your no, I'm not

1997
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 2: a draft guy. These are your people kids, dms asking

1998
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 2: for advice. Now, I do want to say something. And

1999
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 2: this is not to stall, to give carry more time

2000
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: or to look it out there. It's there's Sometimes I

2001
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 2: do these questions because they're obvious. Sometimes that tie into

2002
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 2: stories that happened that week. Sometimes I just think that

2003
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: the information is unique in the fact of how many

2004
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 2: times a non quarterback now has been number one overall.

2005
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 2: It was much fewer than what I would have thought.

2006
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 2: So the names are the names are interesting. I'm actually

2007
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 2: so ready for this. I know the parameters again, three

2008
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 2: or the last four? Yeah, the most recent number one

2009
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: overall picks that aren't.

2010
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 7: Quarterbacks, Okay, I don't There was one before and now

2011
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 7: that I can't remember, But Miles Garrett was the number

2012
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 7: one overall pick. Eric Fisher was the number one overall

2013
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 7: pick for the Kansas City Chiefs. Why do I remember that?

2014
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 7: Because he went to Central Michigan, and he's got to

2015
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 7: be the only number one overall pick out of Central Michigan.

2016
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 2: Ever, and does it.

2017
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 7: Go so far back that Jake Long tackle from Michigan

2018
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 7: is on the list?

2019
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. You tell me carry.

2020
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 3: Out recent the most recent? Now, how far along was.

2021
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 2: That Jake Long? Was like? Oh nine, wow, you got

2022
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: you got one more? That could be a possibility though.

2023
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 7: Oh oh, Michigan football, the South Carolina defensive end that

2024
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 7: knocked off Vincus Smith's helmet, and the Orange Bowl not

2025
01:38:58,479 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 7: the Orange.

2026
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 2: Bowl was bowl, said Davian Clowney. Yes, that's what I'm

2027
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 2: thinking of. Let's go there. All right, that's the best

2028
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 2: I got.

2029
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 7: I can't think anybody else who've a qualified.

2030
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 2: That was really good, mane. So we go, Miles Garrett,

2031
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 2: Dan okay, you said to Devian Clowney. Okay. And out

2032
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 2: of the other one, you said, Eric Fisher Jake Long?

2033
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 7: Which one when Eric Fisher was drafted after Jake Long.

2034
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,679
Speaker 7: So if Ericone will qualify, you got to be closer

2035
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 7: to the pin Eric Fisher.

2036
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 2: All right, those are three final answers. Yes, all right,

2037
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,679
Speaker 2: show me Miles Garrett there he was the first overall

2038
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 2: pick in twenty seventeen. Show me Shedebdian Clowney twenty fourteen,

2039
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: first overall pick, and he's twenty fourteen. Then I'm sorry,

2040
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 2: my bed show me. Eric Fisher, You're welcome here, but

2041
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 2: you you're you turned out correct. But the one that

2042
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 2: you miss was actually the most recent. Trey Von Walker

2043
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars twenty twenty two, really first overall pick over

2044
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 2: Aden Hutchinson.

2045
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 11: Yes, I remember that. It was much going to go

2046
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 11: number one, remember he went to but I could not,

2047
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 11: for the life over crazy that he went to too.

2048
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 11: Everyone was like, what you made up? You made up

2049
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 11: for it, Martin, You made up for the first one.

2050
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what. The Jake Long poll was

2051
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 2: very good because he was the one after Fisher. So

2052
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 2: if we would have done four or five, Jake Long

2053
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 2: would have been would have been good. But that's it

2054
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 2: was surprising to me, not because again we value the

2055
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 2: quarterback and everybody loves quarterbacks, but on how far that

2056
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 2: it went back, and that really that twenty thirteen draft

2057
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 2: was just not a good draft for the for the

2058
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 2: stars in it, but how other positions like outside of

2059
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 2: edge rushers are the only thing that could pass a quarterback.

2060
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 2: So you have Garrett Clowney and Trayvon Walker was that guy.

2061
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 2: But I know I'm on the hot seat, den I'm

2062
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 2: going to say this. Who went number one in my draft?

2063
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: And No? Five? Two thousand and five? Mario Williams was

2064
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 2: that the six that would have been the sixth drafts five? Geez?

2065
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 2: He was a quarterback. He was a quarterback. You got there?

2066
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 2: You go.

2067
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 1: Yes.

2068
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 2: Also, it says Alex Smith right here, I will not

2069
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,640
Speaker 2: good job, Carrie. I had to get you. That was

2070
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 2: I sometimes get years, you know, blended in and so

2071
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 2: then you have to think. So then you think, Okay,

2072
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 2: if Reggie Bush played, okay, you won that, but the

2073
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 2: game was played. Then there's two thousand and six. Take

2074
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 2: that sort of name four of five? Final question, this one,

2075
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 2: this one, after the difficulty of the last one, this

2076
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 2: one could even be more difficult. Oh my god, it's

2077
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 2: gonna take some memory. Okay, oh man, name four of

2078
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 2: the five most recent national champions in men's college basketball.

2079
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 2: Four of the five? I got two of it. Well,

2080
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 2: does that count?

2081
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 5: Well?

2082
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they won multiple you can only use them

2083
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 2: as one. Okay, Yukon, you have and this this question

2084
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 2: is funky for a couple of reasons. But all right,

2085
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 2: so Yukon, I'd say Villanova. Okay, uh jay Wright won

2086
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 2: a couple of titles. Yukon Villanova, I'll go UNC. You

2087
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 2: want to use a lifeline, you want to use Mary

2088
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 2: mack att all.

2089
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna use Mary mac but I'm just trying to

2090
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,759
Speaker 3: get him in my mind right now. Sure, Yukon Villanova,

2091
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 3: U n C. Mary, what you got?

2092
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 2: You got one?

2093
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 8: I was gonna say Duke, but Duke hasn't won in

2094
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 8: a minute.

2095
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 2: I haven't won.

2096
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 4: Benzaga hasn't won in a minute, No one period, no

2097
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 4: so so in like an hour, a minute, the last

2098
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 4: five and then oh, I have another doubles, I haven't.

2099
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 8: That was gonna say Villanova, but you already said Villanova.

2100
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 2: Baylor. I'll say Baylor Baylor. Okay, that would be four

2101
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 2: if you want to go with that. For you had Yukon,

2102
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 2: North Carolina, Baylor, and Villanova. That's it. That's You're good

2103
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 2: with that. Share you good with that? The only one

2104
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 2: I'm a little you wouldn't see.

2105
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm a little nervous about that one. Yukon Villain, Villanova, Baylor.

2106
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 3: It's Villanova too too far back. You want to you

2107
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 3: want to give the final answer, or you want to

2108
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 3: pull the trigger.

2109
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 2: On this one more time, say you got what do

2110
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 2: you think about my four? I think Villanova's a little

2111
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 2: too far back. I think so. I think it's because

2112
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:48,799
Speaker 2: I remember they the last time.

2113
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 8: They won was twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, maybe not.

2114
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 4: Twenty eighteen twenty, because they didn't went back to back.

2115
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 4: They didn't went back to back. It was it was

2116
01:43:56,120 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 4: Villanova they did go back back to back, or they

2117
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 4: were they didn't go back to back.

2118
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 2: They were one. It was miss one and when.

2119
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 4: They missed one and then one again and then Baylor. No,

2120
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 4: Baylor for sure, Yeah, Baylor, for sure. I remember Baylor.

2121
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 4: There's someone you're missing. Good day, and it's so annoying,

2122
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 4: and it's so easy to.

2123
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 8: Watch him saying.

2124
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 7: I'm like, say, it's one of the usual suspects in

2125
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 7: college basketball. Oh you know it's oh Mark, tell me, yeah,

2126
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Speaker 7: I can't because you got took you guys so long.

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Speaker 7: I looked it up because I was curious why there's

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Speaker 7: a tricky one, And now I know why it's tricky too.

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Speaker 7: Villanova U n C Men's College National champions You have

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01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 7: four you have four schools.

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01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 2: Because U n C. It didn't win. And I know

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty because Villanova actually beat you U n C.

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Speaker 4: I think on the last second shot, because Yukon won

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01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 4: the last two, and then it was Baylor, right, Baylor's yes,

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01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 4: so Yukon and then Baylor.

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01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 2: I thought you could do this by yourself, but I

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01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 2: wasn't sure. I'm missing one on, I'm missing this one.

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01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 2: I'm blanket, all right. I know what you say it too.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be smiling to I hate it because I

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01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 4: know I know that they're having a rough year this year.

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Speaker 2: I'll put it like that. Oh my god, okay, they're

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01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 2: having it was Oh, I got it. It was Kansas. Yeah, yeah, good,

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01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 2: it wasn't Baylor. It was Kansas, then Yukon, Yukon. I'm

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01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 2: an idiot for that. I gave you the answer when

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01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 2: I said, you know, I thought you could do this

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01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 2: by yourself myself. Oh, show me Yukon Champs twenty twenty four,

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01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, show me Kansas. Yeah it's twenty twenty two,

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01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 2: show me Baylor, and show me Villanova. So it was

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01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 2: Villanova twenty eighteen. Yeah, I think I think UNC one. No,

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01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 2: they lost one in twenty seventeen. Yeah, yeah, they were

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01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 2: a sandwich of Villanova. I knew they didn't go back

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01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,759
Speaker 2: to back the one that you forgot, but not forgot,

2153
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 2: but just to include Virginia twenty nineteen, Yeah, Kyle Guy

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01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,600
Speaker 2: in the uh completely National semi finals. They lost in

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01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 2: yep to the sixty yes against Texas Tech and championship.

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01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 2: The reason why that question is funky is number one,

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01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,679
Speaker 2: you have the back to back yeah that you also

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01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 2: have the COVID year. So there was no champion in

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01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. So now when you're thinking about Villanova, you're like, wow,

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01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 2: that was like seven years ago. It fit the cabin

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01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:34,799
Speaker 2: because I remember Villanova.

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01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 4: I forgot about yeah completely, though I don't know it

2163
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 4: was such a forgetful I don't know why.

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01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 2: I just completely forgot who the Kansas beat in the

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01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,799
Speaker 2: final North Carolina, North Carolina, North Carolina is North Carolina

2166
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 2: beat Duke and the remember that is crazy? Yeah, yea

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01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 2: destroyed my bracket. All right, good job nine of ten, nine,

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01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,799
Speaker 2: bad job, well done, the one I got wrong with Martin.

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Speaker 7: So for the record, it'll be two years from now

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Speaker 7: in Vegas.

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01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,720
Speaker 2: I saw the announcement that it'll be Wait did you

2172
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 2: look it up there as mart are you all looked.

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01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 7: It up since to find out, like why did Vegas

2174
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 7: pop into my head? Is gonna be the first one,

2175
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 7: but it'll be in two years from now.

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01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 2: First one in Vegas. Yes, San Antonio the site. The

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Speaker 2: women's sites are going to be here there. I gosh,

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01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 2: I can't even this year was Tampa, but I know

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01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 2: they're going to be up in Portland. I know, like

2180
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 2: in like four or five years they're here there and

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01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 2: everywhere with their championships. There was also talk about combining

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01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 2: the men's and women's to put them at the same sites,

2183
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 2: and then you would just have eight days of you know,

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01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,759
Speaker 2: bat like four days if you did, like the regionals,

2185
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 2: you could have the men play on Thursday, women play

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01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 2: on you know, Friday, on a site earlier in the day.

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01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 2: But because the men dominate at night with the scheduling,

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01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 2: it's a little trickier that way. But we shall see.

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01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 2: He's carry roads. I'm Dan Byer. Let's go over to

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01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 2: Martin Weiss at the news desk to give us the

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01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:00,679
Speaker 2: latest of what's happening on this OSCARS Sunday. It's happening

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01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 2: to Martin just quickly for the moment. The only reason

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01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 2: I even knew those draft picks. They all have some

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01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 2: connection to Michigan. That's it.

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01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 7: That was it, except for Miles Garrett, who they said

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01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:10,799
Speaker 7: might slip because he played the piano.

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Speaker 2: I remember that.

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01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,759
Speaker 7: I think, who cares? Have you seen him play football?

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Speaker 7: Pretty good anyway. The NBA. With three minutes to thirty

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01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 7: seconds left in the third quarter, the Miami Heat are

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01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 7: leading the New York Knicks eighty four to seventy one.

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01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 7: Bam Anebayo's got twenty points. Og Ananobi has fifteen for

2203
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 7: New York. Nine three left in the third quarter for

2204
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 7: the Magic and the Raptors fifty five to fifty three,

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01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 7: Toronto in the lead. Arjya Barrett was fourteen and to

2206
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 7: the first quarter high scoring first quarter between the Thunder

2207
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 7: and the Spurs forty one to thirty eight. Shia Gildess

2208
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 7: Alexander who carry just accurately noted as the highest leading

2209
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Speaker 7: scorer in the NBA thus far per on a per

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01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 7: game basis, He's got twelve thus far, and Stefan Castle

2211
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 7: with nine so far at the end of the first quarter.

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01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 7: Theirs we saw earlier today, the Celtics beat the Nuggets

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01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 7: one ten to one. On three, the Pacers beat the

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01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 7: Bulls one twenty seven to one to twelve. Tyres Halliburton

2215
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,759
Speaker 7: with a double double seventeen points twelve assists. The Cleveland

2216
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 7: Cavaliers were trailing Portland by ten in the four at

2217
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 7: the start of the fourth quarter, storms back one overtime,

2218
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 7: one thirty three to one twenty nine. The final score

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01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 7: ty Jerome and the Virginia player twenty five points, six assists,

2220
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 7: sixt deals. Donovan Mitchell didn't play in this game. Men's

2221
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:29,639
Speaker 7: college basketball Michigan State Wisconsin. Earlier today on seventy one

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01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 7: two sixty two. Michigan State the eighth ranked team. The

2223
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 7: Badgers of the eleventh fifteenth ranked Michigan lost at home

2224
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 7: today to Illinois ninety three to seventy three, and eighteenth

2225
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 7: ranked Memphis overcame a first half deficit to beat UAB

2226
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 7: eighty eight to eighty one. In the NHL, between the

2227
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 7: Flames and the Hurricanes, nearing the end of the third quarter,

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01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 7: by thirty seconds left, is tied one apiece with twelve

2229
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:54,759
Speaker 7: minutes left in the second period.

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01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 2: I said third quarter rookie mistake. Twelve minutes left in

2231
01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:58,679
Speaker 2: the second period.

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01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 7: The Stars have a four to three lead over the Blues,

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01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 7: and with five point fifteen left in the first period,

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01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 7: the Rangers lead the Predators one to nothing. NFL News,

2235
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 7: the New York Jets bert Ian Rappaport are looking to

2236
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 7: trade Devanta Adams. They've been taking calls on the veteran

2237
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 7: wide receiver, but if they're not able to find a

2238
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 7: trade partner, they will.

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01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 2: Consider releasing him outright back to you guys, Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much, Martin. It is Fox Sports Sunday. There is

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01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 2: some history on the verge of happening in the world

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01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 2: of sports, and I'm not sure if we're making a

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01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 2: big enough deal about it. Plus some history tonight in

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Speaker 2: Southern California. Carry gives an Oscar's preview. Because I haven't

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01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 2: seen any of the movies. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer.

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01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 2: That's next year on Fox Sports Sunday. Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 2: He's Carry Rhodes the All Pro. I'm Dan Pyre. Surely

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01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 2: after our Shore podcast will be going up. If you

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01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 2: missed any of today's show, be sure to check out

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Speaker 2: radio wherever you get your podcasts, and you'll see today's

2254
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 2: show posted right after we get off the air. I

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01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 2: want to get your Oscar thoughts because I have none.

2256
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 2: I've seen none of the movies. I don't even know

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01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 2: if I've seen a movie in a year, to be

2258
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 2: quite honest, that I haven't seen before the Oscars going

2259
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 2: on tonight. We've already had some awards I'm seeing popping

2260
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,560
Speaker 2: up on Twitter as well. Get your thoughts. But I

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01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,560
Speaker 2: do want to bring in producer Shay on this and

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01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 2: Shae if you can, Hey, can you guys stop yapping

2263
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 2: in there and listen to this show for just a second.

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01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Shae. I need you. I just

2265
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 2: need you for a second. That's all right, It's all good.

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01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 2: It's all good. Shaye has been. This is the second

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01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 2: week in a row, Carrie, when I've walked into the

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01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 2: walked into the studio, or have gotten a text and

2269
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: Shay has given us the Ovechkin countdown on career. I

2270
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 2: know you're a hockey guys. Here's my question to you.

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01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 2: Are we making a big enough deal out of this? Okay,

2272
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 2: so I.

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01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 4: Don't think people are making a bigger deal out of it.

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01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 4: And I think that's because of what's been going on

2275
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 4: with the current leader. Obviously there's a lot of controversy

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01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 4: around him.

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01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 2: But I could say Wayne Gretzky, h of course, yeah, But.

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01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 4: I don't know why I didn't say his name. But

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01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 4: I just feel like, especially with what's happening, with what

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01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 4: just happened with the Four Nations, what we saw, people

2281
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 4: are talking about how it's amazing, why don't more people care,

2282
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 4: like this is a big deal. This is a guy

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01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 4: who is well past his prime, still playing. He had

2284
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,560
Speaker 4: a hat trick like a week ago, Like, are you

2285
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 4: kidding me?

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01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 2: The reason I brought it up, but I'm glad that

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01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 2: you brought up Gretzky because I think that he is.

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01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 2: He is the main reason about this, I actually but

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01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 2: I don't think it's because of people liking or disliking

2290
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky. I don't think there's anything to do with politics.

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01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 2: I actually think it's a record that I don't know

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01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 2: if people want to be taken from Wayne Gretzky, right,

2293
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:58,799
Speaker 2: And that is so when we talk about the goats

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01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 2: of the goats, I think the when you're talking about

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01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 2: in sports, you can make an argument in basketball obviously

2296
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, Lebron James. In the NFL, tom Brady by

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01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 2: and large the thought of as the goat. But I

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01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:20,560
Speaker 2: would say in hockey, Wayne Gretzky's gap between him and

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01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 2: the others is bigger than tom Brady's and the others.

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01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 2: Like I just for what, he's the great one. He

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01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 2: has the cups, he has, the numbers, the points lead

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01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 2: that he has almost a thousand more than the next

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01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 2: closest competitor. It's those reasons why I think maybe maybe

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01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 2: we aren't making as big of a deal out of

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01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 2: it because people want Gretzky to still have that record.

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Speaker 4: So I want to back back off that and say

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01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:53,720
Speaker 4: something that you would relate with too as well. Think

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01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 4: about like I would more compare him to Tiger than

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01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 4: to Tom Brady, you know what I mean, Like like

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01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 4: that Ovechkin or like Vechkin and Wayne Gretzky. Honestly, Wayne

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01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 4: Gretzky more obviously, because he's done way more and one

2312
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 4: more than no Vegkin has. But when you look at Tiger,

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01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 4: like he's way ahead, like like yeah, there is no

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01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 4: one that's been number one longer than they're not even

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01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 4: close to him.

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Speaker 2: Nicholas. That's the exactly exactly.

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01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 4: And it's like, yeah, Tom Brady's great, but you got

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01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 4: people are comparing him to Mahomes. Obviously, Mahomes last last

2319
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 4: this past Super Bowl, so they're not really doing that anymore,

2320
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 4: but people are still comparing Tom Brady to people. You

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01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 4: can't compare anyone to these guys, you know what I mean.

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01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,600
Speaker 4: And it's just like, I like some way, like the

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01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 4: only person I can say is like Tiger like in

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01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 4: terms of sports and what they've done, because you can't,

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Speaker 4: like in baseball, there's no one really like this because

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01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 4: they just take over the sport. And when you think

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01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 4: about NHL, it wasn't that big of a sport. Wayne

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01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 4: Gretzy was the NHL for the longest time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wayne Gretzky's name is synonymous with the NHL exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's example that don't watch hockey. I'm not

2331
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 3: a big hockey watcher. I mean, I'm aware of it,

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01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean I know Wayne Gretzky and I

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01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 3: know it's nickname, and I know you. I know a

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01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 3: little bit about the game because of that.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and now here's a guy that's about to

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01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 4: break his record so I definitely think people aren't talking

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01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 2: I think that, and I think that you're entirely correct

2339
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 2: considering how he handled Lebron's scoring title. And I understand

2340
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 2: that hockey doesn't resonate to the masses as much as

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01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 2: other sports do. But when you have that name of Gretzki,

2342
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 2: when you have just this simple act of scoring goals,

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01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 2: I actually thought it would be different. It would be

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01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 2: points the most shocking thing about Gretzky's success or just

2345
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 2: all the records he has, but it is how many

2346
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 2: assists he also has with his goals, Like that's the

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01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 2: mind blowing thing. But honestly, if you want to get

2348
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 2: down to the simplest of stats, goal scored is as

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01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 2: simple as you can get. And it's surprising to me

2350
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 2: to see that there isn't as much of a hubbub

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01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 2: I guess outside of the hockey world with this. You

2352
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 2: guys are the first show to talk about it all week.

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01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I've been sending it to all

2354
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 4: my shows and I'm just like, guys, you guys are

2355
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 4: talking about how big the Four Nations is. You guys

2356
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 4: are talking about how much you love hockey now, and

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01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 4: you're not gonna talk.

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01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 2: About this, well, I'll say this. I think that it's difficult.

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01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 2: And this is the problem that I've always had with

2360
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 2: hockey fans is they want you to talk about their sport,

2361
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 2: and then when you do, they tell you that you

2362
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 2: don't know anything about it. So it's a double edged

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01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 2: sword where I could talk about it, but maybe I'm

2364
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 2: not as skilled about it, so then you're not as

2365
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 2: happy with the content that you're getting, and so sometimes

2366
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 2: it's better to stay away from it. What is also amazing,

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01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 2: and I wrote this number down is of what could

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01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 2: have been because when Gretzky has the most goals, and

2369
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 2: again I think that that maybe people just don't want

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01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 2: Gretzky's name off of that number one spot. But I

2371
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 2: would also say this that Mario Lemieux, and this may

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01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 2: be a tip of the cap to Gretzky and a

2373
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 2: tip of the cap to Avetchkin for keeping their careers

2374
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,839
Speaker 2: as long as they did. Ye, but if Mario Lemieux,

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01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 2: if his numbers would have kept on pace with what

2376
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 2: Ovechkin and Gretzky are doing, I did the math, and

2377
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 2: if I did it incorrectly, I'm sorry, but Lemieux would

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01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 2: have had about two three hundred more goals. Considering on

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01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 2: how prolific of a goal scorer, he was six hundred

2380
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,839
Speaker 2: and ninety goals in nine hundred and fifteen games. Gretzky

2381
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 2: played almost fifteen hundred and has just three hundred more goals.

2382
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 2: There are two hundred more goals than Mario Lemieux. Oh yeah,

2383
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 2: so I remember, mari were you as Yeah, eleven hundred

2384
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 2: nineteen goals is what I figured out if Mario Lemiu

2385
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 2: would have played the same amount of games as Wayne Gretzkin.

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01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 2: Other may have been a drop off to that point,

2387
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 2: but it's and again typically captain Gretzky and Novetskin for

2388
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 2: being able to play in almost fifteen hundred games. Zy

2389
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 2: that and that and that and that game. Yeah, it's

2390
01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 2: it's pretty impressive. I think I think it should be

2391
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 2: made a big deal just because of and hopefully it

2392
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 2: will pick up steam as he gets closer and closer.

2393
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 4: Let me add on to that real quick. They're not

2394
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 4: just playing, they're like competing. It's not like Aaron Rodgers

2395
01:57:58,160 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 4: in his last year. It's they're doing a very good job.

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01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, you can't cherry pick goals unless there's

2397
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 2: an empty net right like like it is earned. Yes,

2398
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 2: So all right, I gave Carrie. I gave you like

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01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 2: thirty seconds for your Oscar's uh preview. You got a

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01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 2: best picture. It's no preview. But I'm gonna go Oscar winner.

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01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 2: For the men, I'm going to say Timothy Samalay for

2402
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 2: a complete unknown La. Yes, and I'm gonna go for

2403
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 2: the women. I'm gonna go Demi Moore for the Substance.

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01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 2: Did you see both of those movies? I saw both,

2405
01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 2: thumbs up on both. I heard the Substance was tough.

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01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 3: The Substance weird, but I loved I loved it because

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01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 3: of the depiction of what it represents. But yes, and

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01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm a Bob Dylan fan. So Timothy Samalay, Mary Mack,

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01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 3: have you seen any of these films?

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01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 2: You done with that?

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01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 2: Okay, watch movies. I don't know anything about you except

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01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 2: that you're young.

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01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 7: You've got a guy and music.

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01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, just kidding, Shay. See those picks got

2416
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 2: Adrian Browdie and Brutalist. Yeah, I was a big fan

2417
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 2: of Rutalist. You know what, I got four hours of

2418
01:58:57,120 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 2: watching a show that I've never seen anything because my

2419
01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 2: wife is watching the Oscars tonight. Talk to you next

2420
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 2: week on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 10: Mm hmm