1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: And now moved the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, DJ Bucky here moved the sticks just 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks away from the NFL Draft, and 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Bucky got a lot of ground to cover today, a 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: lot of ground to cover, said with the chuckle, this this, 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: this could be fun. It's a still is it? Is 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: it really the silly season, isn't it? It? It is 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: so crazy because we talked about it before going live. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous how people overthink the process. And I think, 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: really the process should be really, really simple. It should 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: be as simple as if we were playing a game 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: at the Turkey Bowl and we just were at the 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: park and I at first pick and we just go down. 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: I got Johnny, you got Sam, I got Bobby Yo, Like, 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: it really should be as simple as that. But because 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: there's so much time, and I've always believe, because there's 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: so much time from the end of the regular season 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: to the draft, that guys who don't know what they're 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: doing will mess it up. And I think we're in 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: dangerous name it happened the craziest draft that we've ever experienced, 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: Like in terms of who goes where how it goes 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: to trade the activity, um, and then you go into quarterbacks. 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: It might be a banana's night. Yeah, and this is uh, 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: what'll kind of get to what we're talking about here. 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: We're dancing around it right now. We're jump into that 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: about this top five, what could potentially happen here, uh, 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: in the top five of this draft, and then uh, 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna actually give equal time because I 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: feel like people say, oh, you just talk about those 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: top picks and the top quarterbacks. So we're gonna go 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: through the final five picks in the first round and 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: give those a full work up there. That's twenty eight Steelers, 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: twenty nine Jacks, thirty Vikings, thirty one Patriots, thirty two Eagles. 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: So we'll break down the top five, we'll go to 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: the bottom five, we'll get to a little linebacker breakdown. Uh. 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: In this class of interesting guys not just at the 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: top of the draft, but kind of sprinkle throughout. So 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: we'll touch on some of those guys. Uh. And then 39 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: we've got an interview with one of one of my 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: favorite guys in the draft, Jesse Bates and safety from 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: from Wake your favorite school Wake Forest Buck you know 42 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: it's a backup, is a backup to North Carolina from yourself, 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: a number two. If it was number two, number two, 44 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: it was number two. From Here's a good school, beautiful campus, 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 1: very good school, very good school. Um, but they're fake, Wake, 46 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: it's fake. I don't know about all that. It's just 47 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: it's just a good school. They were black, they had 48 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: nice uniforms. Have Jesse Bates and four. You got a 49 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: baseball background. Interesting story. So we'll hear from him a 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: little bit later on in the show, but I want 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: to start here at the top, Buck, because we both 52 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: look take pride. We take pride in our you know, 53 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: your evaluation. That's what we think of players. And that's 54 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: easy to defend, right, this is this is what I 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: think of him, and here's why, here's why I like 56 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: him over this guy. That's easy. That's the easy part 57 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: of this thing. The other part of it is trying 58 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: to sort out what could happen and what will happen. 59 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: It's almost like you're playing the role of insider to 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: a degree. And Uh, I've had gosh over the weekend, Buck, 61 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: three or four different conversations with people around the league, 62 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: nobody from Cleveland. So I want to get that out 63 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: on record. I haven't talked to anybody in Cleveland, nobody 64 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: in the room there, um, but people around the league 65 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: really starting to believe, for whatever reasons, that Josh Allen 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: will end up overtaking Sam Donald. Josh Allen can be 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: the first pick here for the Browns. And this is 68 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: something that's been out there. I'm just hearing it a 69 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: lot more so. It's there's got to be something there 70 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: talking about it. Where there's smoked, there's fire. And I 71 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: think we've been into business long enough to know that. Uh, 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: when you start hearing it, you need to start believing it. 73 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: Because we've seen in the last couple of years and 74 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: when people started talking about prospects buzzing up or bubbling 75 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: up right before the draft, it ends up happening. We 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: saw that with Blake Boarders, we saw that with some 77 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: of the other quarterbacks that have gone. Uh. Pat Mahomes 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: was a guy that certainly rolls up the charge. We 79 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: were here, Hey Pat Mahomes, maybe are like man, Pat 80 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: Mahomes like, I don't know if I even see him 81 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: as a first round pick, but hey, I'm here. I mean, 82 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: he made no way and then the draft comes. Oh yes, wait, 83 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: that's that's what That's what happens. Mr Bisky, He's gonna 84 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: be the first quarterback. Man like he doesn't have any 85 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: pills on the wall. Yeah, but you know people like him. 86 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: He has this, he has that, and before you know it, 87 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: it happened. So when you start to to look at 88 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: the situation, and basically I think the situation Josh Allen 89 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, I think what we have to do is 90 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: we have to check the record of the general manager, 91 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: um past performance, the biggest predictor or future. So I 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: guess it's crazy. So anyway, I'm looking at John Dorsey 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: and John Joyce. He in his history when he was 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 1: at Green Bay bread forwards a quarterback bread far, big 95 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: strong arm, thor big arm could do ridiculous stuff impromptu, 96 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: make it happen. His most recent selection at quarterback Pat Mahomes, 97 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: big arm, plays on the move, off the script, can 98 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: make ridiculous throws, can make it happen. Last summer, when 99 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: I looked at this quarterback class and compared to the 100 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: class of sen I said, look, these guys are very 101 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: very similar to me in terms of all the pieces 102 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: and the parallel that I made. Pat Mahomes and Josh 103 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Allen are basically the same prospect. But I would give 104 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes better track record and resume just on he 105 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: did more stuff, was far more productive. Offense was different, 106 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: but whatever. But in terms of what you would like 107 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: to have from a physical standpoint, both of those guys 108 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: are big. They're athletic. They can throw it, they can 109 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: make it happen off the cuff. Has some issues a 110 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: little bit with their accuracy, but you're enamored and wild 111 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: by what they could be if you could harness them. 112 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: So when you look at John Dorson and you check 113 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Rare Far, Pat Mahomes, uh, Tyler Bray, I mean, help 114 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: me out. Tyler Bray has a big arm a Tennessee 115 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: and Tyler a cannon. All right, all right, well, if 116 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: we're just kind of checking boxes, big hands. John Dorsey 117 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: appears to like those guys. So maybe it's just a 118 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: situation where he has a type when he goes to 119 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: the club, he has a certain type that he likes 120 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: to settle up with. So he likes the big athletic type. 121 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: So that might just be a time. Yeah, and this 122 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: is something you know, it's the theory we've kicked around 123 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: here Buck and I don't think it's just quarterbacks. Like 124 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 1: go back to Uh. I believe with his first draft, 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: right was Jocal and Fisher and Eric Fisher. Smaller school, 126 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: but you know, better athlete, bigger upside. So it ended 127 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: up and that ended up being the right pick. But um, 128 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: you know that Fisher has been great. That draft was terrible, 129 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: better player than Joko, but that again it's what can 130 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: you be versus what you are, So go with Eric Fisher. 131 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: They take d Ford the next year. De Ford, you know, 132 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: but explosive. He had a great Senior Bowl. I think 133 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: I like three sax Senior Bowl game, but but very explosive. 134 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters had some some character stuff. People were concerned, 135 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: but nobody would would argue the upside because between he 136 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: and Uh, I was I was a kid from Michigan 137 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: State dark West dean Ard darker dark or is that 138 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: who it was? Let me go back to this draft here, 139 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: I'll pull it up right now. So they took at 140 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters at eighteen. Just after that the other corners 141 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: that went Minnesota Byron Jones at one, t Waynes. Trey 142 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: Waynes went ahead of him Win at eleven but but 143 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: nonetheless that was a high a little bit of risk 144 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: there with Marcus Peters, not not they're not risk averse, 145 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Go go with the upside pick. And then obviously you 146 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: mentioned Patrick Mahomes as well, so right there to try 147 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: reaking the most recent history when he's been in the GMC, 148 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: it has been all upside and also prototypical traits. Marcus 149 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: Peters size, land heughs like six ft long, long arms, 150 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: could make plays, all the other stuff you talk about, 151 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: uh Fisher and some of those other guys. It's all prototypes. 152 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at him, is prototypical stuff with 153 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: big projection in terms of what the potential could be. 154 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: And so if we're doing that, but even in that, 155 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: what's crazy about it? Like, even if you're trying to 156 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: justify this pick, Sam Donald could be m M down 157 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the line, Tim Donald's athletic. Sam Donald makes plays. Sam 158 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: Donald has played on the big stage and done things 159 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: that are off the cuff that you could say are 160 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: Brett Farv like Sam Donald has done it on a 161 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: bigger stage against bigger competition. We have a resume full 162 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: of notable moments Rose Bowl, Texas, other games like like 163 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: like we've seen him takedown opponents. My biggest contention with 164 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has been, give me the signature game. What 165 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: is the signature game that warnts him being number one. Yes, 166 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: we can string together a highlight tape, like if this 167 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: was in the office and we say, hey, give me 168 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: a twenty play cut up tape. Great, but give me 169 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: the game that slam dunks it. So then people say, oh, well, 170 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: you know Central Michigan. Great hundred six yards against Central Michigan. 171 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: I would expect him to do that if he's a 172 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: top level, if he's a first round pick, he should 173 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: be able to dominate to that level. Oh, with a 174 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. The second half of the Seen Bowl, great 175 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: controlled environment. You know exactly what the coverage is going 176 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: to be. Hey, it's gonna be covered two, covered three, 177 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: cover one. I went back and watched that again. By 178 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: the way, the UH I believe both touchdowns were on wheels. 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: A little pick, a little pick in a wheel got 180 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: him great. But but those are our games. So that's 181 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: what everyone is down on the hill long. Josh Allen 182 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: was great Verst Centrayna. He was great in the Senior Ball. 183 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: I would just like to think with everyone else we 184 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: hold him to such a high standard that he's the 185 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: only one that benefits from this. I mean, think about 186 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: all the stuff that we talked about years ago, Jameis Winston, 187 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: Marcus Mario to how we crushed him last year, what 188 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: we did with Deshaun Watson and that Creer quarterbacks. Josh Allen, 189 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: it's gonna skate, He's gonna skate to the title. Maybe No, 190 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I just think I get upside and 191 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: all that. I just think of where Cleveland has been 192 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: at that position for so long, taking chances, and this 193 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: could it look three years him now. Maybe maybe it 194 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: has a huge payoff, but it's a risk and you 195 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: just have have when you have so many errors at 196 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: that position. I know it's different regimes, but wouldn't you 197 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: just want to Hey, let's just just park it down 198 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: the fairway, don't overthink it. The kids twenty years old. 199 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: He can make every throw he throws a timing, anticipation. 200 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: He's a good athlete. Um the character, all that stuff 201 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: off the charts, which it is for for Josh Allen 202 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: as well. But I just when you know what I'm buying, 203 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: I know what I'm buying with Sam Donald, Okay, So 204 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: here's funny. So I'm coming off a camp this weekend. 205 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: Just been the weekend, uh spend Sunday in New York 206 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: at the New York Jazz Camp. A New York Jazz 207 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: We're doing to either eleven opening camp, all the high 208 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: school recruited analysts are there or whatever. So here's what 209 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: I'll say about Josh Allen. Like in today's thing, when 210 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: have we ever seen a prospect that was unknown throughout 211 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: the process become the number one quarterback in the game? 212 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: Think about the internet to rooting analysts. I mean, Carson 213 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Wentz is the argument a little bit. But here's the 214 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: thing about Carson Wentz. What we can argue about Carson 215 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: Wentz broke his He had an injury in high school 216 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: had prevented him from going anywhere. Carson Wentz was also 217 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: in South Dakota. Like, look, Josh Allen's in California. Like 218 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: we can say he's in Fireball, but he's in California. 219 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Southern California is a hot bed for quarterback play. You 220 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: show up at certain places. He then goes to a Juco. 221 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: Juco completes less of his passes, has one offer in Juco, 222 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: goes to on me or whatever, and no time has 223 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: he ever been viewed as a high level prospect. And 224 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: that's the alarment through the alarment, and and so for me, 225 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: you would just like to think if we went back 226 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: and checked all of these dudes, how many guys have 227 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: gone through that? The only one that I can think 228 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: closer than Rogers you know, haven't gone to the JUCO. 229 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: But but but even then with Aaron, I just like 230 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: he said cal he dominated a can like he was 231 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: a dominated plenty of twenty two against us. See that, 232 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he was awesome. Like so I just feel 233 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: like this is a true projection even with Blake Borders. 234 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: So let's let's just say Blake Borders. Blake Borders was 235 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: his conference player of the year. Like and I wasn't 236 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: a Blake Borders fan. I didn't have him as the 237 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: number one, But at least there were games where I 238 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: was like, okay, like he did have great games in 239 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: game played in BCS game. Man, I don't have any 240 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: of that with Josh Allen. Like it is, it is 241 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: unbelievable to think about that. And I understand we can 242 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: talk about the trades and all that other stuff. At 243 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: at some point you have to be able to play. 244 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: And then the other thing would be when is a 245 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: situation where we've taken a pure projection like this, when 246 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: has it worked out, especially at quarterback? Of all the 247 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: projects and things that we've talked about the scene, when 248 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: has it ever worked out for a quarterback? Like Yeah, 249 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: I think it's just I think you're you're saying, Mahomes 250 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: is your TBD and and he has one game. Trust me, 251 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: I trust he has. He's been put in the Hall 252 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: of Fame by everybody on Twitter. He has. He has 253 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: one game. He has one game. Well, let's let's flush 254 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: it out here real quick here. So let's just say 255 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: this happens. Let's do it quick draft, quick, quick mock draft. 256 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: So if Cleveland goes Josh Allen at one, that leaves 257 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: the Giants, which I again assumed that they would just 258 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: turning the card on Sam Donald because I got Eli 259 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: at thirty seven years old. But as we were talking 260 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: about before we went on air, there's a comfort level 261 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: with Eli and an expectation that he's gonna play a 262 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: very high level. For you heard the Giants fans, you 263 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: heard him last week, and they tried to take So 264 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: now we're gonna bring in another quarterback. Oh no, the 265 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: Giants fans are not going for that. So Eli put 266 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: Eli and Soli. Yes, this is what Eli's doing. He 267 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: starts winding and crying. Oh he's saved. That's so bad, 268 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: so bad. All right, So they don't So let's say 269 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: they don't take one, right, So they take Chubb right safe, 270 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: That's they're safe. Get a big guy talking about that 271 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: for a while. So now you get to the Jets. 272 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: The Jets have Donald, Rose and Mayfield all staring at him. 273 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I would think they would take Donald, don't they. 274 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a you can map out a scenario. 275 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: We could say, man, Donald could end up dropping down 276 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yes, this is why the draft is 277 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: so much fun. But let's let's let's put him in here. 278 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: Let's just put Donald in here at three. Then we 279 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: get to Cleveland, who's not obviously taking a quarterback case 280 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: already took one. Everything that I keep hearing is that 281 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: that that goes back all full circle. They would be Barkley. 282 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: You're hearing that same thing there, say Kwon Barkley at four. 283 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: Chubb's gone. So Chubb is gone, so it has to 284 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: be Sae Kwon Barkers. Who else do you take? I 285 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna take a lineman there, and they're 286 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: taking the alignement. So then we get to Now we 287 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: get to the fifth pick with Denver, and there's only 288 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks off the board. So we've been talking about 289 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: three of the top four being quarterbacks forever and now 290 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: you're in a situation where you only have Alan and 291 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Donald gone. So Denver is sitting there with with Mayfield 292 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: and Rosen. I think Rosen goes. I think Rosen goes. 293 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: I think I think Rosen would go. And this is 294 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: why I think John Elway could see or maybe relate 295 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: to Josh Rosen. Okay, I think he could see like, Okay, 296 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: this is guy that was like Southern Califorina kid. I'm sorry, guy, 297 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: he's had all this. I think he would be one 298 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: that could relate to Josh Rosen at five. And also 299 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: the guy who I think they would really love to 300 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: take at that point, Bradley Chubb is gone. I think 301 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Ward would be in the mix. He could be god 302 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: to be a tough one, but because because they because 303 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: if they could get it, then he comes down to 304 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: a Josh Rosen versus denzil Wood, Minka Fitzpatrick discussion or 305 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfood put me like quarterback of a position player. 306 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: So then we get this. Now we only set top five. 307 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: Let's go to six then because this scenario is kind 308 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: of interesting. So now you get to Indie at six. 309 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: I think at this point in time, with Mayfield still there, 310 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the Dolphins have been long associated with Baker Mayfield. 311 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't know where the Bills are because everything you 312 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: heard what the Bills was all about Josh Allen, I 313 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: don't know where they stand there there. They're pretty pot committed. 314 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if they want to go in on Mayfield, 315 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: but I would think there'd be somebody that would come 316 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: up from Mayfield to the sixth pick. Would you agree 317 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: with that? If he doesn't go there, I think he 318 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: just falls into Dolphins lap at eleven. I think that. 319 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: I think that very well may happen. I don't, So 320 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: then let's just say Indie sticks and picks. You know, 321 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I know we've talked about them taking alignment for a while. 322 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: Um latest I had heard on that. Again, this is 323 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: all stuff from just talking to people around the league. 324 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: It's not from inside these rooms. So take it with 325 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: a grain of salt. But I was told Indie I 326 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: would not sleep on them. If Chubb was gone, award 327 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: be a good option for them. Good player pairing with 328 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: his old teammate there Um with Hooker, with Millie Cooker, 329 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: ward would be an option. I was also told keeping 330 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: one on some linebackers there because you've got you got 331 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: Edmunds and you got ro Kwan Smith can kind of 332 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: be the catalyst for that defense. But they need that, 333 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: they need rush so bad it'd be hard for them 334 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: taking off the ball linebacker. Let's just give him, Let's 335 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: give him a ward. And then we got Tampa seven. 336 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: Tampa take it? I mean, do they take a guard 337 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: at seven or do they take the other name you 338 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: keep hearing with Tampa is uh Is Derwin Derwin James 339 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: um Man. And in the scenario, you know who sliding Minka, 340 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: Minka sliding in Mayfield. Wow. So anyways, that's that's that's 341 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: seven picks there. So there's a chance when you when 342 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: you get through this here that we have Mayfield still 343 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: out there. Make if Fitzpatrick still out there, and we 344 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: also have who I have as a third player in 345 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: the draft. You got Quentin Nelson still out there, but 346 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: the Bears, the Bears would becoming Bears. Bears would be quick. 347 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Oh let's yeah, man, because when you get the guard, 348 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: that's all the rebuilding that they wanted to do in 349 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: the off season. Ye you too. The offense line, they 350 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: got to wire receivers, they already had to running backs. 351 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: The quarterback feels very, very comfortable, So Nelson goes there. 352 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: Now you get to the Bay Area teams with uh 353 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: with some pretty good options there. And then again in 354 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: this scenario and the way we're looking at this now 355 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: and this is all this is just fun to kick around. 356 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: But this scenario, Mayfield I think falls right to the 357 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: leven and I would think the Dolphins would take him. 358 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: Would you not see a team quarterback needy team wanting 359 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: to try to get in ahead of the Dolphins. That's 360 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: the only thing that I don't know is I don't 361 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: know where Arizona is there. Um, I would think Baltimore 362 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: would be one to keep an eye on. Is a 363 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: sneaky possibility to sneak up there and get him. Um. 364 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: You see a round of quarterbacks, you think, but it 365 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: all comes down to which one's left and then where 366 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: teams are on the one that's left. But that's an 367 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: interesting scenario there. I said, we're just gonna mess around 368 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: the top five. We actually got the eight there. Um, 369 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: let's get to these uh, these bottom five teams here 370 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Buck just to throw out some names real quick Steelers 371 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: at I wrote down Lamar Jackson. I actually kind of 372 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: like the idea of them taking Lamar Jackson. I think 373 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: at that point the draft think is good value. You 374 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: get to five years uh to be able to let 375 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: him develop. And I know we haven't seen you know, 376 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: package players. You probably have to go back to Courtell 377 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: really same team see Slash you guys getting a little 378 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: bit of package. But I do think while he's while 379 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: you're still learning and growing on the sideline, I do 380 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: think you can get him on the field a little 381 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: bit and maybe a couple of plays here and there, 382 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: but you can take advantage of that, you know, electric 383 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: athleticism he hasn't also kind of preserved Ben a little 384 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: bit if you did that, and then you got the 385 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: long term pay off when when Ben walks away. I 386 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: think so, And I think because they have a history 387 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: of being able to have these kind of players, like 388 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: if you go all the way Antoine Randall Haines war 389 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: was a form of in the back Cordell Stewart. Um, 390 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: the list goes on and on. Mike tim as a 391 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: defensive coach, understands the challenges that Lamar Jackson would bring 392 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: to an opposing defense. Um. I think they have the 393 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: right situation in terms of the weapons around him would 394 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: certainly help him down the line. Antonio Brown, have Mark Tavis, Bryan, 395 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: Drew Smith, Schuster, they have a lot of that. And 396 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: then the running game like being Levan Bell or whoever 397 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: remains the running back, if it's leaving, if it's someone else. 398 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: He has a lot around him where he wouldn't have 399 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: to be the one man show. And if you really 400 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: think about it, if we think about it from almost 401 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: like a video game perspective, how would you deal with 402 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Stills offense, but Lamar Jackson at quarterback and 403 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: all those weapons around him, Antonio Brown or whatever you're 404 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: talking about having opened open lanes, light boxes, like, there's 405 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that could certainly help Lamar Jackson 406 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: thrive in Pittsburgh and without having to put him on 407 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: the field. Like, I just think it's a great situation. 408 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: It would be a great situation. For twenty nine the Jacks. 409 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: I think wide receivers more are more a possibility. There 410 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: actually wrote down d J. Chark. We haven't talked about 411 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: DJ Chark with them. Uh, you talked about somebody with 412 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: the speed. I want somebody to be able to pay 413 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: off all the running they do, to be able to 414 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: pay that off down the field. And I think you 415 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: can make a strong case. Uh, DJ Chark does that 416 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: better than anybody in this draft. Just just get vertical 417 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: track the football and then he also have some return 418 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: value as well. Speed receiver. Um, that's one thing that 419 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: they don't. I mean you can say, like D. D. Westbrook, 420 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: I think DEDE. Westbrook and DJ Chark have different skill sets. 421 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: I think D D. Westbrook can be a true route runner. 422 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: I think DJ Shark could be a luxury item in 423 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: terms of a guy that can really take the top 424 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: off the coverage, can really benefit from those full flow 425 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: play actions. I think he could um win against one 426 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: on one coverage on the outside and kind of give 427 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: them a dynamic dimension. The one thing with Jacksonville, I 428 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: think it has to be a pass catching in some capacity. 429 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: I do wonder with Mercedes Lewis going out, would that 430 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: be the place where you slide in a dynamic tied 431 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: in like that exidy in to go with a s 432 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: j G. Give them something else, because when you look 433 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: at the skill set of the quarterback as a quarterback, 434 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: are real is he? Is he a great deep ball 435 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: thor can you really maximize that part of or do 436 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: you need to think about expanding the strike zone to 437 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of make up for maybe some of his accuracy wolves. Yeah, no, 438 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: it's interesting, interesting decision they're facing the Jack's twenty nine Vikings. 439 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: I wrote down Taven Brian. We've been talking about interior 440 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: offensive lineman for them for a long time. I think 441 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: it's an interior defensive lineman wouldn't shock me either. And 442 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Taven Bryant kind of a bowl in a china shop 443 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: coming out of Florida, extremely explosive. Struggles to find the 444 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: football though on on occasion. So that's that's his issue. 445 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: But man, you've got a staff there in Minnesota with 446 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: a great track record of taking guys with these raw 447 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: tools and making them into big time players. They do 448 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: a great job of loading up. And now what's what 449 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: the Vikings have to do when they're looking at the draft. 450 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: They have to begin to load up with a heavy 451 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: quarterback pay day in mind, Nanda kirk Cousins is on 452 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: your squad, and you know how much he's um a 453 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: lot of on the salary cap. You have to figure 454 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: out how to build the rest of your team with 455 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: that in mind. You have some decision to make on 456 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: some players that are coming up. You have Anthony bard 457 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: Is coming up, some of those other young players, Stefan 458 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Dick's coming up. What is your plan do you pay 459 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: those guys? Are you looking to move on? So that 460 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: certainly would do it. Having Tamon Brown would be a 461 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: good pick. Because they have Sheldon Richardson on a one 462 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: year deal. It'll be interesting to see how he plays. 463 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: Does he play so well? Did it a will keep 464 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson and lit one of the other guys who 465 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: had been a nucleus guy depart. Yeah, it's interesting. There's 466 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: building depth in that front. I mean, I think we've 467 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: seen that recent trend. We can't have too many, never 468 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: can have too many. Keep them rolling, keep them rolling 469 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: through there by the way, I feel like we've buried 470 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: the lead here bucket, Uh, give me evaluation on the 471 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: new haircut today. I got one nice haircut, high tight, 472 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: DJ has a nice haircut. Did look took some took 473 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: some years off. Yeah, it's nice, little boy, look military cut. 474 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: You gotta get ready for the draft, little boy look. Yeah. 475 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: I always say a couple of weeks out of a big, 476 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: big day strong, keep it tight because if it grows 477 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: out a little weird, yeah you got, you got an 478 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to clean it up. Yeah you got. You got 479 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: at opportunity to got a window. It's all timing. It's 480 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: not timing there. Uh. Patriots at thirty one, I wrote 481 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: down Isaiah oliver Um just you know, big, smart, tough 482 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: corner coming out of Colorado. Just kind of they're just 483 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: guys that feel like Patriots. He feels like a Patriot 484 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: to me. You can never go wrong. They wanted to 485 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: have guys that are smart, tough, physical guys that can 486 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: do a lot and they play a lot of man 487 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: to man. So you think about his ability to put 488 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: his hands on people and reroute Um he would appear 489 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: to fit there. The thing about the Patriots like, it's funny, man, 490 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: they have not had good look drafting corners, especially in 491 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: the first round of Arty. They have not done it 492 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: so well. We'll see they typically do a better job 493 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: with older guys, pro guys, guys they've seen on tape, 494 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: to have a better feelful what their skills would be. 495 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: But it would be a nice pick for them. I 496 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: think it'd be a nice fit. Then when we get 497 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: to thirty two, the Philadelphia Eagles look their rosters in 498 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: pretty good shape. I think they're they're in a good 499 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: spot to just sit and pick and and get the 500 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: best available player. Uh in this scenario, I just wrote 501 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: down Sony Michelle, I think you know, I love um. 502 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, I've been a big Corey Clement fan from jump. 503 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: I think he's a really really good player. But they 504 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: proved last year the committee was away to go and 505 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: worked wondrous for him. I think he'd be outstanding fit. 506 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: I think he's more talented anybody they have on the roster, 507 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: and that includes j H I and Corey Clement, oh 508 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: for sure. Just talking about it and talking about the upgrade. 509 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: And I like their running backs and I like what 510 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: they do, and they want to be able to run 511 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: the ball, and it's very very important that they have 512 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: a strong running game in place, not only for Carson 513 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: Winniz who's trying to find his way coming back open injury. 514 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: But also if Nick Foles has to play an extended period, 515 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: if there was a setback in rehab or anything, you 516 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: want to make sure that a supporting cast is good 517 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: enough to alleviate some of the pressure on him. So yeah, 518 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with that kind of pick. So 519 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: there you have it. There's the bottom five. Not just 520 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: talking about the top five here real quick, go through 521 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: this linebacker group, Uh, finish them up over the weekend. 522 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: Buck that the top tier guys we know, uh, we 523 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: know plenty about We've talked about him, Uh, talked about 524 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: him a bunch on path of the draft this year. 525 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: It's a sexy group with Jermaine Edmunds, ro Kwan Smith, 526 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: Rashaun Evans, Latent, Vander rash. I think those are kind 527 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: of those four top guys. I agree. I think I 528 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: think those guys are I think the interesting thing when 529 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: it comes to like breaking them off, Edmonds and vander 530 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: esh Um kind of these unique hybrid players and I 531 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: had a great conversation. In fact, I talked to Jeremiah 532 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: Trotter over over the weekend because I asked us about 533 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: big linebacker, asked him about the challenges of going from 534 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: outside to the inside like how that plays. And he says, 535 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: a lot of time when you're in college, you kind 536 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: of put your best guys on the outside so you 537 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: can rush the pass, and then when you come inside, Um, 538 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: it's a little different because you're dealing with bodies, he said. 539 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: But in today's game, like guys aren't asking linebackers to 540 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: play with their hands. They're not taking on blocks, they're 541 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: covered up to de tackles, and they're occupying blocks so 542 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: you can run and chasing. So he says, if you 543 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: can move your best athlete inside, it allows you do 544 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of different things, especially if he can blitz 545 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: and cover. And so it was very insightful to hear that. 546 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: And so when I look at Edmonds and vander Es, 547 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: both of these guys could end up being stars because 548 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: their unique skills and their athleticism could allow a defense 549 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: coordinator to do a bunch of different things. And you know, 550 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: it's funny. And talking to Jeremiah and also Keith Bullock, 551 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: who who was there, we talked about all this. They said, look, 552 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: remember bran Orlaca was a safety and caused it. They 553 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of slotted in. He said, when you have guys 554 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: with that kind of size and that kind of athleticism, 555 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: you can kind of put them in a position to 556 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: make a lot of plays. And so Vanda sh and 557 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: Edmonds could be cornerstone defensive players for some team. Here's 558 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: the interesting one for people to sort out. Harold Landry 559 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: and Lorenzo Carter both gonna be used the same. I mean, 560 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: it's it's it's just an interesting comparison because you've got 561 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: Harold Landry, who has a ton of production, especially two 562 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: years ago, who's uh six oh two three six two 563 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: and a half to fifty two, ran four six four um, 564 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: but is a polished rusher. And then you have Lorenzo 565 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: Carter from Georgia who's two inches taller, he's almost six five, 566 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: same same weight to fifty um and ran four five flat. 567 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: So you've got more size, more speed, less of a 568 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: game plan really with Lorenzo Carter, more development needed, where 569 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: Harold Landry is more of a polished player. But I 570 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: think that's an interesting discussion that takes place in the 571 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: room when you're in there. These are the type of 572 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: things happen. It's the polished DIY versus somebody that can 573 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: that can show you the athleticism that Carter has. That's 574 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: interesting debate because that's the conversation you have in the room, 575 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: and just depending upon how people size it up, because man, 576 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: you think like from a scouts standpoint, typically scouts love 577 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: the trades, the athleticism. With God, why can't he just 578 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: be a better player like coach, you get it, teaching 579 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: a couple of skills, he should be a much better 580 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: His his ceiling is higher than this guy who Yeah, 581 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: he may be skilled, he may be doing in college, 582 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: but he doesn't have the athletics. How's that going to translate? 583 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: How's that going to translate? Or whatever? And it's funny 584 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: something that I learned from your former boss, Ozzy new 585 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: to Me said, like Zack, production typically translate, particularly when 586 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: it's done over an extended period of time. And so 587 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: in that scenario, I would have a tendency to lean 588 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: a little more to skills, like guys who have proven skills. 589 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: And it kind of reminds me. And I won't say 590 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: that Harold Entries and the Joey Bosta thing, but I 591 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: do remember all the conversation that people had and worry 592 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: about Joey BOSTAZZI explosive enough this and that, but no 593 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: one could really debate his hand to hand combat skills 594 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: and his wide array of moves that could get him 595 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. And so I just believe pass rushing 596 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: as an art I would have a tendency to lean 597 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: towards the artists as opposed to the athlete in that scenario, 598 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: no question. Um. Then a couple other guys want to 599 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: talk about here real quick, Garius Leanard. We talked about 600 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: a bunch from South Carolina State is kind of our 601 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: under size explosive player. And I actually, uh Joel e 602 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: a Beneway I screwed that went up. I didn't have 603 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: the pronunciation from me, but the Western Kentucky linebacker. Both 604 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: those guys who undersize running hit good players. Shakim Griffin, Um, 605 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: you know everybody knows his story, guy man. I had 606 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: the same conversation with jam I trying to the debate 607 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: is what do we do with him? How do we play? 608 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: What do you say? Um? He was funny because he 609 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: loved what he saw. One if he loves seeing the 610 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: motor um, the relentlessness, his ability to get to the quarterback. 611 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: And then I would I asked him, I said, but 612 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: what about the hand? How do you and He's like, oh, 613 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: you don't have to take off. So depending on what 614 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: side you put them on, maybe put him outside and 615 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: let him kind of do some of the stuff that 616 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: JPP was able to do in terms of like when 617 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: he's rushing and covering. But then he said, and talking 618 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: to all the always this is like second and third 619 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: hand stuff, like talking to coaches in the league. He said, 620 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: guys in league have reservations like, man, how is he 621 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: How's he going to handle that? Like, yeah, I see 622 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: it on tape in college, but how is he going 623 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: to do it? And and I think the sticking point 624 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: with him is what is the plan? Where does he play? 625 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: I've always believed that he would be a great special 626 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: teams player, great special teams player right at the game. 627 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: So I know I can get him a jersey on Sundays, 628 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: get him active, he could eventually be a special teams leader. 629 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: But in terms of getting him on the field and 630 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: a role, I'm still trying to determine what the look 631 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: I was in the building against all but and he 632 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: was terrific. He was a monster coming off the edge. Um, 633 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: I guess for me, maybe I need to see the 634 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: apples and apples do I need to see him in 635 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: presee season against some players, just to see how maneuvers around. 636 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: But there's certainly a place in the league. But I 637 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: think it is I think the opinions are going to 638 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 1: be varied on him based on how you project him 639 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: to function and produce it within your own system. A 640 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: couple more things will get to here, then we'll get 641 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: to this, uh this interview with Jessie Bates here. Um, 642 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: A couple of guys, another interesting discussion. Malik Jefferson from 643 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: Texas versus a guy like Josie Jewel from Iowa. I 644 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: have the same grades on him. You couldn't any more 645 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: different as players. Malik Jefferson, uh six to two thirty 646 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: six ran four five to Josie Jewel six one thirty 647 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: four ran four eight too. But I'd argue Josie Jewel 648 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: gets the football a lot faster than Malik Jefferson because 649 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: he's got incredible instincts. Uh So, it's just a it's 650 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: more of a raw speed athlete in Malik Jefferson Josie 651 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: Jewel a little bit limited physically. You saw it in 652 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: space against se Kwon Barkleys. Barkley killed him in that 653 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: Penn State game. Um, but very very instinctive. First, he's 654 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: always uh a step ahead in terms of getting towards 655 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: the ball. So that's another discussion where it's just what 656 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: do you want and to me something The answer might 657 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: just be you just remove Malik Jefferson. You put him outside, 658 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: you put him in will let let him get clear sightlines, 659 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: let him run and hit. You know, it's funny because 660 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: in writing it down, um, Josie Jewel to me is 661 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: a quote unquote football player, great instinct, trade wearing, it's 662 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna have great production. But he needs to almost go 663 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: to a team that is loaded up front so he 664 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: can just play. He is not the star. He just 665 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: kind of is active, runs around and makes plays. Just 666 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: a solid player, kind of like a Joe Scholbert. I 667 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: think I compared I compared him to Borland. I said 668 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: he's a poor man's Chris Borland, which great comparison that 669 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: one year Chris Boiling played for Simpson schoolfore nine. He's 670 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: very very active and disruptive on the inside. Malik Jefferson, 671 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: I think the biggest challenge for him is he's a 672 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: man without a position. To me, I don't know what 673 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: his natural position will be in the league. And so 674 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: whoever takes him has to have a very clear plan 675 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: to get him on the field and to put him 676 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: in a situation where he can have some success. Is 677 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: that as an outside player, is that a will player, 678 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: is that as a blisser and sub packages? Um, you 679 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: have to be working in sync with the scouting department 680 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: to make sure that Ed defensive coordinated can not only 681 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: articulate his plan, but he can guarantee you like we 682 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: take him, you can put him on the field and 683 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: he's going to play. Because I don't want this guy 684 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: on Sundays to be on the side. And we we've 685 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: wasted to pick that will probably be a top top 686 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: fifty pick on a player that has some talent. We 687 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: gotta figure out how to get it out of him. Uh, 688 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: Kimoko Terray edge Rush. We've talked about him a bunch 689 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: on path the draft from Rutgers. I think he's that 690 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: second third round range. Uh, six ft five two and 691 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: fifty pounds. He's he's our six four and a half 692 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: to fifth. He's a really really good player. Um. And 693 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: then you've got some some some guys down the line 694 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: of interesting stories. Jack Sitchy from Wisconsin who's been hurt 695 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: for the last year and a half, was ultraproductive in 696 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, two thousand sixteen early in the season there. Um, 697 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: I think he's end up being a late round pick 698 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: just because of the durability. Shawnd On Hamilton's from Alabama, 699 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: a little bit undersized, but just kind of a little 700 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: wrecking ball. He's a He's a fun player to watch. 701 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: So overall, I think this linebacker group is is really good. 702 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a good, solid group with some stars 703 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: at the top and a lot of depth. Buck Yeah, 704 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean I think Look, I think this draft is 705 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: really really solid. I think the only thing that could 706 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: throw it out of whack is to run on quarterbacks, 707 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: which actually will help the teams that are outside of 708 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: the top ten because there's gonna be some really really 709 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: good players that fall out side of it. Um, it's 710 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: just a matter of where do these guys go. And 711 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: as we started this show with the top five shakeup 712 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: is really going to be um the Domino Center, because 713 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: whatever happens that one and two is going to set 714 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: the stage for the rest of the draft. And I 715 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: think this is a challenge because in most drafts you 716 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: can have a strategy. We have two or three options 717 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: of how you want to attack the draft, but I 718 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: think everyone has to kind of keep an open mind 719 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: and be wide over because I really believe it's gonna 720 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: be crazy on draft. It's gonna be fun. It's I 721 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: bet you the uh the ray is gonna be ridiculous 722 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: for this draft. It's just gonna be so much fun 723 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: to watch how this all unfolds. We don't know where 724 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are going. There's a million of them, and 725 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: that sets the stage for the whole night. So it's 726 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun there in Dallas, all right. 727 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 1: But I'm excited for this next guest here. Jesse Bates, 728 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: safety for Wake Forest, joins us, one of the best 729 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: pure free safeties in this year's draft class, and he's 730 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: pulled off the side of the road to chat with us. Jesse, 731 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: what you doing man? Not much, man, just heading back 732 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: to uh Fort Wayne, Indiana. Actually, I was in Wake 733 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: Forest for the little spring game and I had to 734 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: work out with the Panthers on Friday. So heading back 735 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: home to just continue to work out and uh prepare 736 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: myself for a rookie season. So how's that process been 737 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: with the private workouts, Pro days and the like. How's 738 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: it been trying to transition from performing at a combat 739 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: and pro day workout while also trying to get ready 740 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: for a rookie season. Yeah, it's it's very different, just 741 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: because you're used to just being a part of a 742 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: team and right now, uh, it tests you being a 743 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: professional almost and just you know, keeping yourself accountable and uh, 744 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: surrounding yourself with guys who actually care and I want 745 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: you to get ready for your rookie season. So one 746 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: of the things I love about you is is just 747 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: the range you have in the back end. And then 748 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: when I'm watching you, Actually, the first time i'm watching you, 749 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: I didn't know, honestly, I didn't know anything about you. 750 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: So I'm watching your tape and I'm like, who the 751 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: heck is this dude? You're flying all over the place, 752 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: incredible range instincts, you see it, you go. And I'm 753 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: texting with some different teams and they were just kind 754 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: of getting into the process. So we kind of feel 755 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: like we we discovered you at the same time with 756 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: what you did there. But then they were telling me 757 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: about your baseball background. How how does that help you 758 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: on the field, being able to track the ball. Just 759 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: with the baseball history. Yeah, I mean I played baseball 760 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: just as long as I've played UM football and basketball 761 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: as well. So uh, it's the same thing. I mean 762 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: a bat off the ball and the same thing as 763 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: a quarterback throwing the ball. So it's for me, I 764 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: think baseball have has definitely helped me with my ball 765 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 1: skills and just being able to you know, track track 766 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: the ball and just taking the right angles and I 767 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: think preparation, uh and just watching film and helps me 768 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: with my instincts and stuff like that. So baseball have 769 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: has been a big part of my success in football. 770 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: So it's funny. One of my old defensive coordinators, Willie Shaw, 771 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: used to always talk about planning in the back ends 772 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: still second uh you still you steal bases off the 773 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: pitch and at the catch, and so when you're talking 774 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: about you know, being able to make plays on the ball, 775 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: it's all about being able to get a read a 776 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: jump on the quarterback. So in saying that, when you're 777 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: going through your preparation process, how much of film study 778 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: UM benefits you in terms of when you're playing out 779 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: on the field. Because I've read stuff where you talked 780 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: about the preparation part. How much does film study play 781 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: a part in your prep um I think it plays 782 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: a huge part, just because it gives you an extra 783 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, edge, and it gives you leverage. Um, when 784 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: you're playing in the game. It makes me play faster. 785 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: A lot of guys think I was gonna run very slow, 786 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: but oh, come on, who thought that? I think I 787 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: think a lot of people were predicting me to run slower, 788 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: but um, I think my film study makes me play 789 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: very fast and just being able to you know, read 790 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback's eyes and also even the receivers as they 791 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: run them route. So one of the things that when 792 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: I when I study and you're trying to find out 793 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: what you do well on areas you can grow and 794 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: improve in that. You had some miss tackles this year, 795 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: going little miss some tackles in space. How do you 796 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: address that issue and how do you overcome that as 797 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: you get to the next level, how you get better 798 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: in that spot? Um, I mean it's gaining weight as 799 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 1: part of it. And also just for me, I felt 800 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: like this year I was a little hesitant. Um that 801 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: injury I felt like slowed me down a little bit. 802 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: But I know what I can do and um, I 803 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: know I can tackle and I'll continue to work on that. 804 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: So when you look at the NFL game, are there 805 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that you may pad in your 806 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: game after? Um? For sure, Micah Hide as a guy 807 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: just because he's not the most talented or the most fast, 808 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: the biggest guy, I think his preparation uh leads to 809 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: his success on Sundays. And uh. Also like Tyron Matthew 810 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: just because his footwork and his ball hawking ability is 811 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: something that I'm outeled my game after. So combination of 812 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: both of those guys are um, someone who modeled my 813 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: game after. So you'd be comfortable dropping down the slot 814 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: covering in the slot. Yeah, I think that's one of 815 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: the funnest things to do, just because it's more intense 816 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: uh than being free and you know, just being able 817 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: to help other guys. I feel like when you're locked 818 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: on man and man, uh, it makes it a lot easier. 819 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: So you're not reading anything. You just have one job 820 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: to do and it's for your guy not to catch 821 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 1: the ball. So yeah, I just watch your movement skills 822 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: very fluid, very easy. That's why to me, I'm like, 823 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: that's that's the value. Now, have teams talk to you 824 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: about that that the ability to play high is also 825 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: your ability to drop down and cover some of the slot. Yeah, 826 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: a lot of teams, Uh, they like me in the 827 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: free safety spot just being able to, you know, just 828 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: because I think my range is a big part of 829 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: my game, but also being able to you know, step 830 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: down the box at times and you know, stick in 831 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: my head in there. And also garden slots. So I 832 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: think I can do all all three of them, and 833 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: I look forward to you know, proving them that I 834 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: can do that. I think that self evaluation makes sense 835 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: because I can now see why you would like a 836 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: guy like Michael Hide, because Michael Hyde does have a 837 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: lot of that versatility, being able to play outside and inside, 838 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: playing in deep middle. Making the transition from Green Bay 839 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: to Buffalo. UM one final course and I have for you, um, 840 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: as you get closer to draft day and draft night, 841 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: do you feel like there's a specific scheme that is 842 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: best for your skill set? Um? Like I said, I 843 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: think I can do all of them, but I think 844 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: that my strength is being free and being able to 845 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, stay deep and just read. Uh. The quarterbacks obviously, 846 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks in the NFL are ten times better than 847 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in college. But I mean they get paid 848 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: to lie pretty much. Um. For me, I just think 849 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: just being able to be free and um, you know, 850 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: let loose and help out, help out guys as I'm 851 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field is a thing that, um, 852 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: I look forward to doing. Well. Last question for me 853 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: because when I just finally put this together, I was 854 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: trying to figure out why I like you much as 855 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: I do. And it's not just because your play on 856 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: the field. Uh, you know where I was born, Buck? 857 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: Do you know where I was born, Bucky? You know, 858 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: I was born in Fort Wayne, Indiana. So that's Jesse's home. Now, Hey, 859 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: have you ever heard have you ever heard of of 860 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: black Hawk? There's black Hawk Christians. It's like black Hawk 861 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: Baptist Church, and there's a black Hawk Christian School there. 862 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: I went the black Hawk Middle School. So my dad 863 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: started those schools. My dad was the head pastor there 864 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: and my dad started the the that whole school program 865 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: on the trailer and they grew and grew and grew 866 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: and grew. With all these families. Rod Woodson actually went to, uh, 867 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: I think the elementary school or middle school there. So 868 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: just one big fort Wayne family here. You probably should 869 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: should probably should have taken a shot early talking about 870 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: app stayed over Wake for us. Well, I did, I did? 871 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: I did? We beat I'm two and against Wake in college. 872 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: That's how they're here and you're there. But no, the 873 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: last thing was we used to go back in the summer. Uh, 874 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: even when I was in high school. We would go back, 875 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: and I used to love going back there and playing 876 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: basketball at the y m c A. A. Do they 877 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: still have the y m C A and B? Have 878 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: you ever hooped there? Um have boys who played D 879 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: one basketball. So yes, I consider myself as a hooper. 880 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: And when there's basketball sessions going on, I like to 881 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: go there and run around and you know, um just 882 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: showing what I can do that. I'm still a hooper. 883 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: So there you go. See, there's a lot of love here. 884 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: There's a lot a lot of love, a lot of love. 885 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm moving I've i gotta move you back up. I've 886 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: got you in the thirties. I think I gotta move 887 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: up even higher. Jesse, Hey, it's great to talk to you, man. 888 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having me on here. All right, 889 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: thanks for pulling over to we don't need you getting 890 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: a ticket down. No, no, no, not at all right. 891 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: One of the best safeties in the draft, Jesse Bates 892 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: taking some time for us. Best luck, man, We'll see 893 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: if I appreciate you guys. Take care of God blessed. Well. 894 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: There you have a buck Jesse Bates. Man, it's it's 895 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: a really really, really good player. I think when you 896 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: stack him up in this group, I think you're looking 897 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: at him a chance to go late one, probably getting 898 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: up in that second round range. But no, it's uh, 899 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: he's fun to watch when you study him, fun to watch. 900 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: Really good player plays over top, does a great job 901 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: coming out here and making tackles, has ball skills. Um 902 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 1: shows the benefit of finding a safety that as multisport background, 903 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: particularly with baseball. Really like him as a player, leave 904 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: love him even more after talk to all right there, 905 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: there you have it. That was a busy day. I 906 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: got a lot of fun getting into what we're hearing 907 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: there at the top of the draft. You got to 908 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: break down what we think could happen at the bottom 909 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: of the first round. Give you a look at that 910 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: linebacker class as well as our chat there with Mr Bates, 911 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: uh Buck, anything else you want to have before we 912 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: get out of here. Man, this is bananas. I just 913 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: buckle up, buckle up. It's gonna be crazy. Got a 914 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: new haircut for the occasion, all right, that's gonna do 915 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: it for us here Move the Sticks. He's fucking Brooks. 916 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Jeremiah. Will catch you next time. Thanks for 917 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: downloading Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 918 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: For more, go to NFL dot com Slash Podcasts.