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Speaker 2: I got traded to Miami, like I felt that that

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Speaker 3: That city was on five not.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the O G.

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Speaker 1: S U. D.

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Speaker 4: This is a Playmaker original brought you by Draft Kicks.

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Speaker 4: Look at that season two wee get in corporate.

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Speaker 3: Because I just came from practice killing you know I

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Speaker 3: can see that. Excuse me ready for we can like

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Speaker 4: We got some real old j in the building today, though,

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Speaker 4: you d a real O G in the building, and

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Speaker 4: you look better with that face mask on.

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Speaker 3: Hey where do we get all? Next episode might now

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Speaker 3: have a black eye.

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Speaker 4: Now for real? Though, Ricky, appreciate you coming in the building. Man,

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Speaker 4: I'm serious, big fan. I was excited when we got

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Speaker 3: Did you say dolphin great dolphin legend, Thank you Texas legend?

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Speaker 4: I mean, what you what you want to do? You

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Speaker 4: want to talk about text?

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Speaker 3: You just want to talk about the Dolphins?

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Speaker 4: Well I want to talk about Texas for a second. Okay,

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Speaker 4: go ahead, talk the hell you get from San Diego

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Speaker 4: to Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 1: You know, Uh, we're just needed.

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Speaker 2: I didn't need it because I was drafted. I was

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Speaker 2: but back in the day, you couldn't be a professional

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Speaker 1: So I was I was doing all right.

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Speaker 1: And I got to do it for four years.

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Speaker 2: But I said, if I'm going to do college football,

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, when I was doing a little

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Speaker 4: I don't think that stuff he just talked about, Like

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Speaker 3: First of all, people, baseball hardest ship.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the hardest sports, if not the hardest.

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Speaker 3: Somebody's throwing a ball at you ninety five to one

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Speaker 3: I gotta take this, guys.

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Speaker 4: I can't take you take this serious?

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Speaker 3: Right listen. I can't how you do this?

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Speaker 4: Hey, I got it was to smoke that high the

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Speaker 1: It's not too late.

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Speaker 2: And that's the that's the helmet, that's the face mass

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Speaker 2: I played third base my whole life, but when I

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Speaker 2: It was a different age where you know, we can

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Speaker 1: But like you said, the numbers have gone down.

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Speaker 2: But I grew up in San Diego watching watching Tony

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Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes that's the hardest thing in the business.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I can hit it, but you know, baseball is

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Speaker 2: And when I got drafted, they saw that I could run,

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was cool because you know, especially going going to

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Speaker 1: It was. It was a cool experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm joining the kickball team before I stand the

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Speaker 4: So we know how you did. We watched you at

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Speaker 4: it was Jesus video games.

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Speaker 3: It's gotta be ridiculous video if you did that in college.

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Speaker 1: I'm big.

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Speaker 2: I was big and on an explosive and I love contact,

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Speaker 4: Poor San Diego white kids.

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Speaker 1: Ye, smash, it was fun.

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Speaker 3: You talk about baseball and you talk about, you know,

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Speaker 3: Three h five guy. You know what I'm saying. Third

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Speaker 2: You gotta have reflex it. You gotta be able to

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Speaker 1: You gotta have an arm.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have an army that ball go down that

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Speaker 3: He had no football, baseball.

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Speaker 4: That was talking about jazz hip Like.

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Speaker 3: Hey, man, don't do me like that. Man, Listen, everybody

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Speaker 4: So you go to you go to Texas. Obviously win

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Speaker 2: It wasn't the first time, it was the first time

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Speaker 2: That group in San Diego and people you know, it's

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Speaker 1: But my senior year, I came back for my senior year, and.

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Speaker 2: I just had a bad two weeks, so really like

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking, why did I come back for

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I was like I just imagined it being in the

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Speaker 2: It was the first time in two weeks I wasn't

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Speaker 1: To like get back on track.

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Speaker 2: And so I had a wonderful week of practice, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was back in the Heisman Trophy race.

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Speaker 4: I retired five years ago. I haven't ran for three hundred.

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Speaker 3: First of all, who runs for three hundred yards.

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Speaker 4: I've ran, I've ran, I retired.

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Speaker 3: Who runs that's some mad and ship like, who runs

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Speaker 4: want to talk about the dolphins, but I do want

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Speaker 4: So talk about that, because that's that's a like that

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Speaker 2: But I had to watch, you know, four other people

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Speaker 3: Why I'm not a football guy. You are mother fucking

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Speaker 3: And that was for me, tim grade, that was out

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Speaker 4: What do you think I mean? Because you don't see

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Speaker 2: I broke my ankle. And we as the Saints, we

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Speaker 2: just want six games in a row. So we were rolling.

444
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Speaker 4: Week ten yard of a thousand, yeah, and I was.

445
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Speaker 2: Looking at the look on my coach's face when he

446
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Speaker 2: got the news that I broke my ankle, you know,

447
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 2: and I could understand now why people get tired of

448
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,119
Speaker 2: that happening, and they're like, I don't feel comfortable giving

449
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 2: all this money to this player when there's a likelihood

450
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Speaker 2: if we build the whole offense around the running game

451
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Speaker 2: and he gets hurt, then we're kind of stuff. And

452
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 2: I think that combined with passing games, you know, I

453
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 2: really opened up and so now it's more valuable to

454
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Speaker 2: have a running back that can do a whole bunch

455
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Speaker 2: of things. And back in my day, a big bruiser

456
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Speaker 2: where you can get four or five yards and dominate

457
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Speaker 2: a team. You don't see that Derrick Henry, you know,

458
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Speaker 2: but you don't see it too much.

459
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Speaker 3: Listen, Never will I ever question Ricky Williams. Never. I

460
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Speaker 3: ain't gonna play that game. But do you think that

461
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Speaker 3: they're investing more money in the offensive lineman now because

462
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Speaker 3: you look at teams where your starter goes out and

463
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Speaker 3: your fucking backup comes in and rush for a thousand

464
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Speaker 3: because if you have a good offensive line, I was

465
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Speaker 3: about to say killer a rush for a thousand, but

466
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Speaker 3: I'm to be a lie. If you have a good

467
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Speaker 3: offensive line. If you have a good offensive line, I've

468
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Speaker 3: seen situations where the starter's gotten hurt and the backups

469
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Speaker 3: come in if damn they got a thousand yards just

470
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Speaker 3: finishing out the season for the starter. So you think

471
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Speaker 3: it's more of a shift obviously the things you said,

472
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Speaker 3: but off the shift is we're gonna invest in good linemen. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 3: if we invest in good lineman, then we should get

474
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Speaker 3: yards on the ground.

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Speaker 2: It makes it, It makes perfect sense. I think it's

476
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Speaker 2: investing in lineman and also has a lot to do

477
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Speaker 2: with the scheme, you know, because if you have good

478
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Speaker 2: talent but everyone's not on the same page and you

479
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Speaker 2: don't know what you're doing, it's not gonna work. And

480
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Speaker 2: the other thing is I think you can get you

481
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Speaker 2: can get a good running back for cheap, right, but

482
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Speaker 2: there is a certain level of player that.

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Speaker 1: There's a superstar player that can make a difference like Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think hopefully the league with the superstars

485
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Speaker 3: the draft, but we're gonna just talk about this. Signing

523
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Speaker 3: with No Limit. I just want to go back because

524
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Speaker 3: that was for the coaching, Just so you know that

525
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Speaker 3: was That was for the coach. That was around the

526
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Speaker 3: time No Limit was fucking hot. Everything they were dropping.

527
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Speaker 3: Silky Shaka had a mother fucking hit album, got them

528
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Speaker 3: master P. Ghetto Dope was a motherfucking hit album. FIENI

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530
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Speaker 3: that's the fucking No Limit was dropping was a hit.

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Speaker 3: I just had to say thank you, brother. Yeah, I

533
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Speaker 3: say thank you brother.

534
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Speaker 1: I was trying to do something.

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Speaker 3: So even when I give a black man a chance.

536
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Speaker 2: Even even when I was a kid, I thought the

537
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Speaker 2: whole point of fame was to make to do something,

538
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Speaker 2: to make a difference, to make a statement. And so

539
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Speaker 2: I probably made too many statements a little bit too fast,

540
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Speaker 2: white Rooky year. But I haven't waiting my life for

541
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Speaker 2: that opportunity. And I had an agent, you know, the

542
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Speaker 2: typical agent situation, and then I just wasn't feeling it,

543
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Speaker 2: you know, And I saw this is you know, I'm

544
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Speaker 2: a big name right now, this is a great opportunity.

545
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: And and every time I messed with no limit, it

546
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Speaker 2: just was always it was always a good experience. Like

547
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Speaker 2: I felt like they saw me as a real person,

548
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Speaker 2: as a human being, and it was no limit. So

549
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: when when when Pete met up with me and gave

550
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Speaker 2: me the tank, it was over.

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Speaker 1: I had to do it.

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Speaker 3: Nah, that was a big deal, I honestly, you know,

553
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: and not from the you know, being seriously, but just

554
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: watching the black Man master p and what he was

555
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Speaker 3: able to do in the music game, but not just

556
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: stop there, to pivot and to continue to grow and evolve.

557
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: Roley always told me evolve and die to evolve and

558
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Speaker 3: just to have faith to just step into that lane.

559
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Speaker 3: You know, as a kid, I only thought about the

560
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Speaker 3: football side of it. But as I get older, I

561
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Speaker 3: appreciate that now as a black man watching him do that,

562
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Speaker 3: because we didn't have those visions of black man doing

563
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Speaker 3: that when we was growing up. You know how it

564
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Speaker 3: was God damn shoot basketballs, shoot pistols, or run the football.

565
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That was music.

567
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all music. But we didn't get into

568
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Speaker 3: the agent game. That wasn't our game. I had a

569
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Speaker 3: couple of brothers that was runners.

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Speaker 4: You know who.

571
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Speaker 3: Y'all had a couple brothers that was runners. You know

572
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Speaker 3: who y'all keep talking about your ass ay ass was

573
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Speaker 3: a runner boy. But we didn't have black agents. That

574
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: wasn't That wasn't That wasn't the visual. So I appreciate

575
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Speaker 3: that now on a whole another level. Dog. Once again,

576
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: you did something different, but that was for the culture, man,

577
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Speaker 3: So we'll get your flowers though. Appreciate your flowers.

578
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Speaker 4: The other thing that's different that I think it is

579
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 4: pretty unique too, is you come out and you signed

580
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Speaker 4: basically in the center based deal. What was your head about?

581
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Speaker 4: What was around that.

582
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Speaker 2: It is the same idea of this is an opportunity

583
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Speaker 2: to make a to make a difference, to change people's minds.

584
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Speaker 2: And again I was naive, but I was the type

585
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Speaker 2: of player really that I played for the love of

586
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Speaker 2: the game. And at the time, the picks were kind

587
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Speaker 2: of slotted. So there's a rookie salary cap. Since I

588
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Speaker 2: was the only I was the only rookie that year,

589
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Speaker 2: I said, just give me the whole rookie salary cap,

590
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Speaker 2: and I think I should have to.

591
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Speaker 1: Earn everything else after that.

592
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Speaker 2: So I got signed for I think right under nine

593
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Speaker 2: million up front and then basically played played for the

594
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Speaker 2: minimum and I had to I had to earn anything

595
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Speaker 2: anything above that.

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Speaker 4: Like what were some of the incentives, and everyone asking it was.

597
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Speaker 2: Crazy, inc And it's basically I had to be the

598
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Speaker 2: top three a top three running back for four years

599
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: straight to cash in.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's my mentality to.

601
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Speaker 2: Me if it And the argument was, you know, I

602
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: had leverage and I didn't take advantage of it. But

603
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how it would have felt if I

604
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: would have gotten all the guaranteed money and then got

605
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Speaker 2: hurt and missed all those games. I'm not sure how

606
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: I would have felt, how I would have felt about myself,

607
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: and that's just me. So I figured, you know, the

608
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: Saints put every put everything.

609
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Speaker 1: On the line, you know.

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Speaker 4: So he did the same thing.

611
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Speaker 1: So I did the same thing. I did the same thing,

612
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Speaker 1: and I got hurt. I mean, I missed ten games

613
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Speaker 1: those first two years.

614
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Speaker 2: And that's the one thing because I had never missed

615
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Speaker 2: a game before that I didn't take into consideration. So

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Speaker 2: if I had to do it over again, I would

617
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Speaker 2: have put a clause in if I get hurt.

618
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Speaker 4: Well, you talked about it earlier a little bit like

619
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Speaker 4: you didn't feel like it was a family atmosphere, get

620
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Speaker 4: until you got to Miami. So and I know this

621
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Speaker 4: is what he really wants to talk about. So talk

622
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Speaker 4: about that transition, what happened in New Orleans to get

623
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Speaker 4: you to Miami, and what was it all about. Then

624
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Speaker 4: you know, we'll talk about your Miami times because I

625
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: know he's got to get his his helmet back on.

626
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't mind me.

627
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

628
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: So, So we started off with the draft and I

629
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: got drafted to the Saints coach decoratrated like eight picks,

630
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Speaker 2: two first round pick.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we ended up going three and thirteen

632
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: and he fired. He gets fired, He gets fired.

633
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: So next year, a new coach comes in, and you know,

634
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: I'm motivated to prove myself. So that second year, I

635
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: proved myself up to week ten and then I broke

636
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: my ankle, and I could tell that things are starting

637
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: to fall apart with me and the Saints because they

638
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: drafted a running back in the first round that next year,

639
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: so I could see the writing was.

640
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: On the law, probably gonna be here long.

641
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: And then after that season, it was funny, that's when

642
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: I came out with social anxiety and all the mental

643
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: health stuff. So there's a lot of question marks about me.

644
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: And the Super Bowl was in New Orleans, and so

645
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: I was flying to the Bahamas for a Super Bowl

646
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: event and coach Wanstet, the coach of the Miami Dophins

647
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: at the time, was in the airport on the same flight.

648
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: So we sat down. We talked for about twenty minutes.

649
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: And I could tell just him meeting me and meeting

650
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: me in person that he was like, Okay, he's cool,

651
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: you know. And then about two weeks later, I got

652
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: a phone call and I was traded. I was traded

653
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 2: to the Dolphins, and at the time, my best friend

654
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: was a writer for the Miami Herald, guy by the

655
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: name of Dan Levatard.

656
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, and so I moved.

657
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: It was like I was like, I'm coming to be

658
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: with my homeboy. So me and Dan we really got

659
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: really close. And the team, it was a good team

660
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: that had been going to the playoffs every year, so

661
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: they had a lot of vets and so it felt

662
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: like family, and I felt like they just needed a

663
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: running back or something on offense to be the missing piece,

664
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: and so everything came together.

665
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: Coach Watson really liked you because you totally that motherfucker

666
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: seven hundred and seventy five.

667
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: NFL record.

668
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: He really liked you. Yeah, seventy five guys.

669
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, And just remembering back a little bit,

670
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: like you took a step back from it from the

671
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: football period, just because your body was taking a pound

672
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: and then a beating like you was. You was getting

673
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: beat up out there.

674
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you get you beat up enough, it

675
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: forces you to take a step back and say, Okay,

676
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: what what am I doing here?

677
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: You know it was my mortality.

678
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: I started to do the math and realize how much

679
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: longer am I going to be able to do this,

680
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: and so I, you know, I finally came down to

681
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: reality and I reached out to the Dolphins and I said,

682
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: if you're going to give me the ball this much,

683
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: you need to make sure that I feel good about

684
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: being here.

685
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: So we need to handle this contract thing.

686
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: And and you know, I know it's business, and I

687
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: probably should have been more patient and waiting, waiting to

688
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: get the numbers up, But that first response, it was

689
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: so insulting. After carrying the ball, stepping under and something,

690
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: you know, I again I was a little bit closer

691
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: to doing something doing something else, you know, because when

692
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: you're doing something difficult, it can be meaningful. But you

693
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: got to check in and ask yourself, does this feel

694
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: like it's really worth it to me? And I'm the

695
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: kind of person I give one hundred and fifty percent

696
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: and everything that I do, So if it ain't worth it,

697
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: you know, it ain't gonna go.

698
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: Well go Well, so you just stepped away for a minute.

699
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: I stepped away.

700
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when I stepped away, I didn't think it

701
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: would be for a minute.

702
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: I thought I was done. I thought I was done.

703
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: I thought I was never old. We thought he was

704
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: done how old are you at the time of twenty seven?

705
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 4: Twenty seven? You thought you were done?

706
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: I thought I was done. Yeah, what'd you do? I

707
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: started traveling? Yeah, start, I got on a plane. I

708
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: just started went to Australia, I went to India. I

709
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: just started trying to see the world. Because my whole

710
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: life had been just being an athlete, and I didn't

711
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: know who I was outside of being an athlete. But

712
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: I was starting to realize there's other things, there's other

713
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: things out there, and I had made enough money that

714
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: I had earned the right to go.

715
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: Explore those other things.

716
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if I was just stuck being a football player,

717
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: I was thinking, I'm not sure if my body's going

718
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: to feel good enough to do all these things if

719
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: I keep doing this.

720
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: They documented some of your travels, right, Some of that

721
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: stuff was documented. I saw him traveling and a visiting

722
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: different countries, and some of that was documented. You know

723
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

724
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: And don't worry about people at home. We're gonna do

725
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 4: close caption for u D because I know y'all can't

726
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: hear with the helmet on.

727
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: They can't hear me. They heard Ricky when he did

728
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: his interview.

729
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: They sure, just hurt him.

730
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: So when you go travel, you do all that stuff.

731
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 4: What what? What? What? Just at some point you just

732
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 4: start like, man, I want to do this again to

733
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: itch kind of what well? How do?

734
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: How do?

735
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: How did you get back into it? Because it's like

736
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 4: there's there's gonna be a moment where you're like, damn,

737
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: I gotta go do that ship again.

738
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: You know, football especially.

739
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: It's hard, you know, and there's so many there's so

740
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: many players on a team. It's like when I left,

741
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: I feel like they had to make an example out

742
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: of me, and so and so the Dolphins sued me

743
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: for my signing boat.

744
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: They didn't even give me then, even give me.

745
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: What do you mean they didn't give it to you?

746
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 2: You mean because I was drafted by the Saints and

747
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: that and that that signing boat they're trying to they're

748
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: trying to It wasn't even for the money, obviously they

749
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: were trying to make.

750
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: You can't just you can't retire. I don't want people

751
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: to retire.

752
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: You can't just leave.

753
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: We try to do all the stuff.

754
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: You just leave matter they used to cut off to

755
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: and can I be honest with you, I felt like

756
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: that too.

757
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: As a fan, you can't just leave. I felt like

758
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: that as a fan, can't just leave.

759
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: I get it.

760
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: I had that same feeling. That's why it was so

761
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: hard for me to do.

762
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: But I understood the pounding and I understood all those

763
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: things on your body because I watched, Yeah, I watched

764
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: you physically give everything you have for us every Sunday,

765
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: and I watched this.

766
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 4: Intrigusion though, really because I you know, obviously, when you retire.

767
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: When I retired, I was unfortunate to play as many

768
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: year as I did, seventeen of them. And you look,

769
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: you're still watching. You miss it? Yeah, so when you

770
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: retire at twenty seven, you're rushing for a thousand yards

771
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 4: and and there you're toting the ball like you're like

772
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 4: when you're traveling. Were you watching NFL football? Were you

773
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: like locked into it?

774
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: It's a funny story, not at all.

775
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: So part of the part of what made the whole

776
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: retirement kind of fuzzy was about a week after I retired,

777
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: it came out that I failed a drug test before

778
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: I retired.

779
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: So it's so.

780
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: Exactly instead of it just being me retiring, it became

781
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: about the drugs.

782
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, now, he didn't want to stop smoking.

783
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: That's why he retired. That's how they made the storyline exactly.

784
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: That's what the storyline was. Now, I remember he didn't

785
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: want to stop smoking, so I gotta take this shit off.

786
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: So every time I was, every time I tried to

787
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: watch the NFL, right, and always talk about that story.

788
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: So I wasn't really trying to watch the NFL, you know.

789
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: And I started traveling, so I was, and back then

790
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: wasn't showing NFL. Wasn't showing NFL. But here's a funny

791
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: here's a funny story. So I was traveling and I

792
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: was on my way to I was on my way

793
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: to India. I was gonna go up in the Himalayas

794
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: and and rub Hash. You know, I met this duty

795
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: and I was like that sounds like a lot of funs.

796
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: And so I was.

797
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: I was in I was on my way to India,

798
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: and I stopped over in Thailand and I was literally

799
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: waiting for the taxi to come take me to the

800
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: airport to go to India. And and I'm waiting in

801
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: the lobby and some little guy comes on and he

802
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: turns on the TV and guess what's all NFL czy?

803
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: And it was so it was so strange. I took

804
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: it as a sign and so I went and I

805
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: and I called my agent. I said, get me the

806
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: next flight to come back to Cali and so and so.

807
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: I flew back.

808
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: I flew back because I felt like the way I

809
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: left it was unresolved stuff, and that even if I

810
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: wanted to go on with my life in America, I

811
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: always have this reputation, you know. And so I was like,

812
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: I got to make this right so I can get

813
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: on with my life. And that was that was the

814
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: main motivation. But but also the year I had away,

815
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: I got a chance to know who I really was.

816
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: And I felt like the first half of my career

817
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: it was like me trying to like change myself to

818
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: fit in to the NFL, and that second half it

819
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: was more like I know who I am more, how

820
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: can I use the NFL to help support my goals?

821
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: So curiosity again, this is kind of fan questions. Right,

822
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: you leave, you retire, Miami tries to sue you for

823
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: eight million bucks, almost like a like a fucking difficult

824
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: divorce where you're getting divorce and the woman wants your money. Yeah,

825
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 4: but then you get back, You come back and you

826
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: signed with Miami. How did that?

827
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: How did that? Hatchen?

828
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: Right?

829
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: Right?

830
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: They on my rights?

831
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: And in that year I came back is when the

832
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: Dolphins hired Nick Saban.

833
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: And I don't know how or why.

834
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: The Nick Sate was a big fan of me, and

835
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: so I remember being in India and I decided to

836
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: come back and he's like he called me up. He

837
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: was like, hey, I know you're not coming back until

838
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: training camp, but don't you think you should be in

839
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: town training, you know?

840
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: And I was like okay, And.

841
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: So so I came back.

842
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: I came back early, and I started training.

843
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 2: I got in the best shape of my life because

844
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: when I retired I lost I lost like thirty pounds.

845
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: So I came back. I came back like two oh

846
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: five on my weight it was like two thirty five.

847
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: And I was faster than ever quicker. I was lighter,

848
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: my body heeled. With that year off.

849
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: And and playing for Nick, it was fun. It was fun.

850
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: I had a really really good time coming back and

851
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: jump starting my career. And it was more fun because

852
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: I had gotten over some stuff and it was more

853
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: comfortable being myself.

854
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: A So Nick Saban, that's his boy. He loves I

855
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: just didn't like how he told us he wasn't leaving

856
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: and I woke up and he left us. Yeah, but

857
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: you know, honestly, when when when he came? Like, because

858
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: I don't know much about him, but I know the

859
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: tradition at Alabama? Is he a hard ass?

860
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: Is he is? He?

861
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: Is?

862
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: He?

863
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 3: Like? Tell me something about I know nothing about Nick Saban.

864
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: I know his track record. Is he fucking wins? He's

865
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: proven winner. Obviously we didn't have that much success that

866
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: he had at Alabama with the Dolphins. But will tell

867
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 3: me something about Nick Sabe because I don't know anything

868
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: about him? What kind of guy is he?

869
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: I say the most most interesting thing that that says

870
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: a lot about him. It was his very first day

871
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: of training camp and you know, it's hot. It's hot

872
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: in Miami in July, and after practice, you know, his

873
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: first post practice speech, we all circle around and the

874
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: first thing he said is y'all need to shut the

875
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: fuck up.

876
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: That was the first thing he said, as old school,

877
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: and he.

878
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: Said, if y'all out here crying about the weather on

879
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: the first day of training camp, how do you think

880
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: you're going to be successful?

881
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: And so the one thing you can call him a

882
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: hard ass, but he just doesn't.

883
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: Lie to you know, if something on his mind that

884
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: he really feels on a deep level, he's.

885
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: Going to communicate it to you.

886
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: And I think what that, at least for me, what

887
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: that develop was a level of trust I knew I

888
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 2: could trust not only that he would tell me the truth,

889
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: but if you if you listen to what he's saying,

890
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: if you, if.

891
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: You do what he says right, you will be successful.

892
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: You know.

893
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 2: And and the thing he rewarded, and it was different

894
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 2: than any coach I'd ever been around.

895
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: He rewarded playing hard. He had something on it.

896
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: Called the Tiger board that he brought over for LSU,

897
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: and at first we were like, what is this college? Yeah,

898
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: but it became a thing that after a game, all

899
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: you cared about was did you make the Tiger boards right?

900
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: So he set a certain standard of how to play football.

901
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: And it didn't have to do with stats, right, It's

902
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: more did you show up, did you meet the challenge

903
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: on every play? And if you did right, you're on

904
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: the Tiger board. So he raised the standard. If you

905
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: weren't willing to meet the standard, or you were a complainer,

906
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: or you pointed fingers and one hundred percent he's a.

907
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: Hard at Oh listen, I agree with that because you

908
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: have to be held to a standard, and it's something

909
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: we did with the Miami Heat as well as we

910
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 3: had the board at the end of the game and

911
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: the only way you can get points is for box outs,

912
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 3: you know, still, deflection, you know, all these kind of things.

913
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: It had nothing to do with scor.

914
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: Want to do.

915
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: And then when you look at it and you buttnaked

916
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: ass last in the effort department, you feel away exactly.

917
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: You want to feel away, and now you want to

918
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: play harder and you want to get your effort up.

919
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: And also it was frowned upon for be last. We

920
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 3: would definitely talk.

921
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: About your Yeah, that's exactly.

922
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: What yeah exactly, and what it does it creates a culture.

923
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: It creates a culture because everybody has a standard that's

924
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: already said, and you don't even got to talk about it.

925
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: What's understood don't got to be explained. You better not

926
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: be last, boy, You better I be last on that board.

927
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: So you come back for a year. The next year

928
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 4: is a suspension year.

929
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I almost made it through the years, you know.

930
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: Can you tell me what the NFL drug policy is? Like,

931
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: how do they tell? Is it random? Do you know

932
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: it's gonna come? We used to get three or four

933
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: regular almost.

934
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying the last game, I promise you. I thought

935
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: I had made it through because it was the year.

936
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: It was a year that Texas at Texas beat USC

937
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: Vince Young in the National Championship Game. And so the

938
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: last game of the season, we beat the Patriots. I

939
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: had a good game, and I was feeling good about myself.

940
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: You know, I ended the year with back like back

941
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: to back, hundred York game.

942
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: I'm back.

943
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: And a week after the last game, I was at

944
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: my home boys house in l A on the day

945
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: of the National Championship Game, getting ready to go.

946
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: We give you a random this is the NFL.

947
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't that this is the NFL. I got a

948
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: fed X right there.

949
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: I knew, right if you fell a drug test exactly

950
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: seven days later.

951
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: You get a FedEx. So for years, every time I

952
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: saw a FedEx truck driving in.

953
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: The neighborhood, I'm good, I'm like, okay, I'm good, I'm

954
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: being a drug testing so and they sent it to

955
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: my homeboys house. Got a FedEx at my homeboys house.

956
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: I was getting hype for the game, opened that letter.

957
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: You know what he said, right, you returned to a

958
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: bottle that was positive for THC metabolites.

959
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, all right, please call doctor Brown. I was sick.

960
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: I thought I had made it. Obviously. I didn't go

961
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: to the game.

962
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: I just watched it at home being sick. But I

963
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: bounced back, bounced.

964
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: Back, what's the NBA NFL drug policy?

965
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: Is it?

966
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it random? Is it four? Is it three?

967
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: Like?

968
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: What's it's one?

969
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: It's changed. But back then, it was one random test.

970
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: And here's what got me.

971
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: Okay, it was one random test a year, so my

972
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: first three years, and I wasn't even smoking that much

973
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: my first three years in New Orleans. That first test

974
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: was always in training camp. I got traded to Miami,

975
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: and I didn't know that in Miami day test an

976
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: off season that one test. So it was like two

977
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: weeks after I got here. I came to work one

978
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: day and I saw the sign on the locker, you know,

979
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: and I was like, damn. I tried to run to

980
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: the store and get some of those pills in that drake.

981
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know how to use it, so I ended

982
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: up failing the test and so if you fail that

983
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: one test, they put you in the drug program. And

984
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: the drug program is you got to go see I

985
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: had to go see doctor Tumor once a week, you know,

986
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: talking about my issues why I was smoking, and then

987
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: nine drug tests a month.

988
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: That's almost almost every two.

989
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: Days, shout out doctor Tumor. Yeah, just so you know, yeah,

990
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: very well, very knowing, very well, got to doctor you

991
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: feel we got to say doctor.

992
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: The funny thing is he talked about it that that

993
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 4: sign on the that sign on the wall when you

994
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 4: walk in. I used to see some poop poo face

995
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 4: when you walk side drug tests to day you look

996
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: around the locker, remember, we're like.

997
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 3: Soon as he said doctor two, my immediately.

998
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, you know too, that's his thing.

999
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, so nine times a month, so coach savings your

1000
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: coach at the time. Yeah, what's he saying when you

1001
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: have to I mean obviously have to call him and

1002
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 4: talk to him Like what I mean, how was that

1003
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: haved be difficult? Huh?

1004
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: Honestly it was a difficult conversation, but the way he

1005
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: handled it made me respect him even more. Really, no,

1006
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: because he could understand I was a good player. He

1007
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: wanted to be on the team, but he could also

1008
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 2: understand that playing football is hard, you know, and he said,

1009
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: I wish and I think this is part it wasn't me,

1010
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: but I think it was one of the things why

1011
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: he left the Dolphins is he didn't have any control

1012
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: over it. No, And he was like, I know what

1013
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 2: kind of player you all, I know the kind of

1014
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: person you are. This is stupid that you can't play

1015
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: because of this. So he had my back the whole time,

1016
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: and I definitely appreciate that.

1017
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: My bad NICKI II, Yeah, how could you be in

1018
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 4: this right now with dont like you'd have been able

1019
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: to do what you gotta do.

1020
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have been ah, yeah, you know.

1021
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: I like to think though, because of the way I

1022
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: handled myself from what I went through that it helped

1023
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: push the conversation.

1024
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: So now it's not so crazy where people are getting

1025
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: suspended for taking care.

1026
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: Can you imagine could you imagine nil money? Oh my god,

1027
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: come n il money. He would have made ninety seven

1028
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: ninety eight Brown And.

1029
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought that up because we can money.

1030
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: We can touch on that because those guys are Texas

1031
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: right now making a lot of money. They still watch

1032
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 4: Texas football.

1033
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: They're right number one, Right, what.

1034
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 4: Do you think? Tell me talk about talk about it

1035
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: because those over there making some big money.

1036
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you know, and money is a big part

1037
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 2: of it, but I think especially with the young kids

1038
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: like that, it could get in the way and so

1039
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: puts it puts a lot more pressure, more responsibility on

1040
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: the head coach to create culture, you know. And I

1041
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: think you're seeing the teams. The universities that have that

1042
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: culture are the ones that are can continue to be successful.

1043
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 2: And one of the things Sark is done is he's

1044
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: made it mean something beyond the money to be a

1045
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 2: Texas Longhorn.

1046
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: And I think I think that's why we're so successful

1047
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: right now.

1048
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: You coach as well too. I coached a little bit

1049
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: of you coached a little bit. How did you like that?

1050
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: The coaching experience, I loved it, Mike.

1051
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: The kids I coached, they all broke records because damn yeah,

1052
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: they did, all of them, all of them.

1053
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: I had three freshmen and I got them.

1054
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: I got them all to be their best because to me,

1055
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: I had good coaches. But ultimately I was the one

1056
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: that had to coach myself when the coaches weren't there.

1057
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: What I was doing with my free time, how I

1058
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: watched film. So when I got to coach these kids,

1059
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: I just poured into him. And I loved it because

1060
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: I learned from all the things that my coaches did

1061
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: wrong with me, and I tried to be the coach

1062
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: I wish I had, and again they respected me because

1063
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 2: of who I was.

1064
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: But it was it was a very fulfilling experience.

1065
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 4: There's such a value on what you said there though,

1066
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: And that's why I think veterans and OG's and either

1067
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: sport are so important because there's great coaches. You don't

1068
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: ever take away from coaching. But there's something to be

1069
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: said for someone that actually did it and strapped up

1070
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 4: that helmet and hit somebody and totally at seven hundred

1071
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: and seventy five times in two years and understands what

1072
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: you're going through in the pain you're getting hit by.

1073
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: Like there's the message is so much better, right, So, Like,

1074
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: I think that's dope that you coach. I didn't even

1075
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 4: know that either.

1076
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: For guys like us. You know what I'm saying, when

1077
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: you're coming from a position where at the end of

1078
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 3: the day, we're telling you stuff for yourself, we don't

1079
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: have a hitting agenda, like you know what I'm saying.

1080
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: Ricky's made his money, Mike has made his money. OG's

1081
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 3: made his money. You had your career, You had your career,

1082
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: I've had. This is for you. Whatever we tell you,

1083
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: whatever we're doing, it's for you. We want you to

1084
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: be your best version. You know what I'm saying. And

1085
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: when you get a kid, to understand that and trust,

1086
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: because when you get a lot of kids from inner city,

1087
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: it's just hard to trust outside of the people that

1088
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: grew up with. They ain't trusting. No coaches. You only

1089
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: want you only want to be my friend because I

1090
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: can run fast. You only care about me shooting. You

1091
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck about me when I leave here,

1092
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: And that's how it feels, you know what I'm saying.

1093
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 3: But Ricky cares because Ricky know where I'm from. Ricky

1094
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: grew up where I grew up. Mike cares. You know

1095
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: what it's like to get up and go to the

1096
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: gym every morning, that's six am. So it's just a difference, bro,

1097
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: And we're always going to have that connection. That guys

1098
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: analytical I call him asthletics. Analytical guys, they don't have that.

1099
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: They don't have that, and I feel like they thinking

1100
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: that we're like chess pieces, you know, like those those

1101
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: kinds of coaches, And I try like we're human beings

1102
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: and if you meet us on that level, you're going

1103
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: to see a show up. But if you treat this

1104
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: like a chess piece, we're gonna have good days and

1105
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: we're gonna have bad days.

1106
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: Oh no, listen, Analytics almost made me quit. Yeah, I

1107
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: was like, fuck this, You're gonna tell me it's my

1108
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: fault because the other four motherfuckers out here ain't doing

1109
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: their job. I'll play my ass off coach. I'll play

1110
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: my ass off coach. But I always tell people this,

1111
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: Analytics is just an excuse to play the people you

1112
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: probably didn't want to play anywhere. Yeah, you probably ain't

1113
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: want to play that motherfucker anyway. So analytics is always

1114
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: going to work out the way you wanted to work out.

1115
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: So, yeah, you still locked in the NFL football.

1116
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1117
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: But when I when a game is on and I'm

1118
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: watching it, I'm locked in it just it just pulls me,

1119
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: it pulls me back in. I'm saying, if I spend

1120
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: a whole day, if I spend a whole day watching

1121
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: football my wife and have to spend the whole next

1122
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: day talking to me out of trying to go back.

1123
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 2: But but like could I get I spent so much

1124
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 2: and invested so much of who I am into into

1125
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: being great at that, and I feel like I have

1126
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: so much to offer specifically in that area. But the

1127
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: reality is the way my life is right now, the

1128
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: ups and downs of winning and losing, I'm not sure

1129
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: I really want to get back on man, when I

1130
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: come down to reality where you lose a game and

1131
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: everyone's in a bad room for the whole, it's like

1132
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: to me, as I got older, it's been easier to

1133
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: put it into perspective.

1134
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: That's why all the time, Yeah, you better have a

1135
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 4: great wife and a good family. Their miseries and your

1136
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 4: miseres their misery.

1137
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: People asked me about missing it, and I was like,

1138
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't miss hanging on to every loss, you know

1139
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, going home at night and sitting in

1140
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: the dog and ship. I don't miss that part of it.

1141
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, because we came into an error

1142
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: where you know what I'm saying, We were talking and

1143
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: it was embedded into us. It was win or missing

1144
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: there was between us.

1145
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: You lose. You talking about it, bro.

1146
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: Laughing, Listen, I wish I would catch your ass laughing.

1147
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: And we just lost.

1148
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: Let me tell you that had to be real tough.

1149
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 4: NFL you got a whole week at least, you know,

1150
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 4: and then the NBA, you're playing three four days, three days,

1151
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: four days a week, get a whole week.

1152
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 2: You mess up right every day and practice and coaches

1153
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: pointing out right in practice, you getting the players you

1154
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: messed up all you got to hear it until the

1155
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: next week till you can do something about it.

1156
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the worst part. You got to wait a

1157
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: week to do so.

1158
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: The Dolphins, do you do you mind giving me a

1159
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 3: little bit of your opinion, your insight? You know, what

1160
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: do you think about tour? I tell people this all

1161
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: the time. It's easy to say standing on the outside

1162
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: looking in, But when somebody has committed so much of

1163
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: their time and effort and something becomes a lifestyle, it's

1164
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: not that easy just to tell somebody to walk away.

1165
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: It's not that easy. I get what everybody's saying on

1166
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: the outside, it's not that easy. This has become a

1167
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: lifestyle for this young man. This is what he's known

1168
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: he has dedicated his life to this. To tell him

1169
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: to walk away at what twenty five, twenty six, shit,

1170
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: just don't translate, you know what I'm saying. So it's

1171
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: easy for us on the outside to say that, but

1172
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: what do you think.

1173
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: So from the outside, I would say you got to

1174
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: take care of yourselfself. From the inside, if that was me,

1175
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: I'd be even more driven to get back on the field.

1176
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

1177
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: I ain't going out like that, That's what I'm saying.

1178
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: But I think that's the difficulty, but also the beauty

1179
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: of this kind of level of competition right right is

1180
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 2: right or die? It's real, you know, So I mean

1181
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: to me, any professional sport, but especially football.

1182
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: It's not for everybody.

1183
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1184
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: It's a certain kind of mentality that makes you good

1185
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 2: at sports. And it's a certain kind of mentality when

1186
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: you know you have a choice to do something that's

1187
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: good for your health or do something that's good for competition.

1188
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna choose to do something that's going to make

1189
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: his competitors.

1190
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: We're warriors. Yeah, it's like the.

1191
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: Vikings, you know, they said, if we're gonna die, right,

1192
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: we go to heaven if we die on the battlefield,

1193
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: but if we're cowards, we go to hell. And I

1194
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: think that's that's football mentality. So again, from the outside,

1195
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: take care of yourself. From the inside, I get it.

1196
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: I get it one thousand percent. What you think, killer, I.

1197
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: Mean, I'm I'm definitely playing. But it's but I also

1198
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: don't know what he's going through either, you know what

1199
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 4: I mean. Like it. Like again, we're all we've all

1200
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 4: been athletes before. The noise on the outside is easy.

1201
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 4: The noise at home is hard. Man, that's the one.

1202
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: Just the beast you fight all the time. Yeah, it's

1203
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: just hard. Let's do a little NFL round up percent

1204
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: about DraftKings.

1205
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: I got one more question. Go ahead, a healthy to

1206
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 3: a healthy Dolphins team, are they capable.

1207
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: Of course, Well, they're capable of getting to the playoffs, Yeah,

1208
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: going deep in the playoffs.

1209
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: You know.

1210
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: My philosophy on that is because I've been on teams

1211
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: where end of the season, right and we just got

1212
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: to win one more game to getting the playoffs. And

1213
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: when you get to the end, it's a couple of questions.

1214
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 2: One is how much gas do you have in your tank?

1215
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: You know, and Directly related to that is how much

1216
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: do you love being around the guys? Yes, because I've

1217
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 2: been to certain points in the season We're so sick

1218
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: and tired of the coaches in each other. Right is

1219
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 2: you can feel unconsciously at least you know people are

1220
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: trying to get up out of it, trying to keep playing.

1221
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: Four years going to the finals, and it's crazy, and

1222
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: we can look back on it now and I don't

1223
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: think we understood how lucky we were and how privileged

1224
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: we were. But I think four years are going to

1225
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 3: the final, we felt like that it was like we

1226
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 3: have been around each other enough. We had seen enough

1227
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: of Spoe, We have seen enough of like we had

1228
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: literally that four years straight going. We're playing all the

1229
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: way to the end. Every year we're the last team

1230
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: to finish, and then we got to be back in

1231
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: training the campus start. And I think when we've been

1232
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: to the after those four years going to the finals,

1233
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: I think mentity, physically, emotionally, we were fucking tired of

1234
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 3: each other. And I don't think people can understand that

1235
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 3: because they like y'all winning, But we were fucking tired

1236
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: of each other. Killer like that ship.

1237
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: I don't understand either though, like the time as your family,

1238
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 4: like you're with them way more than with anybody else. Man.

1239
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: So the coaches was tired of us, was tired of them.

1240
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure the film, dudes was everybody annoys about somebody.

1241
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: Jesus amplifying it's.

1242
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: Double time because what we're doing is so intense. It

1243
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 2: brings all the emotions up to the surface, no doubt.

1244
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 3: So not killing before we get to the fan questions,

1245
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: and then we got to talk about something as talk

1246
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: about that gas. Talk about that gas, that gas that

1247
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: had you running for three hundred out there. Yeah, that

1248
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: that ninety three.

1249
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: You'll got something to talk about over here, listen, know.

1250
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: That like that, I got something like that. Don't do

1251
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: us like that. Don't do us like that. So now

1252
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: I just want you to talking to the other side

1253
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: the next side of the second act. You know what

1254
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying or what you're involved in now, because you know,

1255
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: obviously playing professional sports a lot of injuries, a lot

1256
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: of pain. The first thing they want to do to

1257
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: throw a pill at your ass and shoot you in

1258
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: your butt cheek or some shit like that. You know

1259
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And that's that's a shot of whiskey.

1260
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 3: It helpful now, but eventually I gonna either tell something worse,

1261
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna get hurt worse. So now I'm looking at

1262
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: it from my perspective, and I'm being honest. My last

1263
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: couple of years, I ain't play that much. I tell

1264
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: you one goddamn thing. I ain't need no pills either.

1265
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: I ain't need no pills either. So, you know, talk

1266
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: about the scientific part of it, because you've been an

1267
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: advocate for the scientific part of it, not just motherfucker

1268
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: I want to smoke dope on the motherfucking rap video

1269
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: and pop champagne. You've been an advocate for the you know,

1270
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 3: the other side of it.

1271
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think because the other side it needs advocacy

1272
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: because when I was growing up, right, the only images

1273
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: I saw are people consuming right.

1274
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: It was you just snoop and people getting in trouble.

1275
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: Yes, So I didn't have an image, and that's that's

1276
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: how I interacted with it.

1277
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: But we talked about that experience and college.

1278
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 2: That was the first time where I was like, okay,

1279
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: I could see right before and after right, no one

1280
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: could take that result away from me. And as I

1281
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: got in the NFL and things became more stressful, and

1282
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: like everybody else.

1283
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: I was just popping pills because I was young. I

1284
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: didn't know any different.

1285
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: And then my junior year in college, I got an

1286
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: ulcer because I was taking eight avalent days just to.

1287
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: Practice what I'm saying, God damn, so.

1288
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't hold anything down.

1289
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: I went to the doctor and the first thing the

1290
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: doctor asked me is like, do you take ibprofriend And

1291
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: I told him.

1292
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, he's like, you got an ulcer.

1293
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: So that was the first time where I started to

1294
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: realize that I have to be more creative and finding

1295
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: how to take care of myself. And again I didn't care,

1296
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: because when you take a tortall or indosn, you go

1297
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: out on the practice field. I'm telling you, I felt

1298
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 2: like I was fifteen years old. Yeah those days that

1299
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: didn't take one. I felt like I was.

1300
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 4: Eighty years so I've been there bro.

1301
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: So the value of.

1302
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: The pharmaceuticals, right, I didn't question them. But after I

1303
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: got that ulcer, I started to open my mind to

1304
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: different things. And I still didn't even know that there

1305
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: was such thing as medicinal marijuana, but I'd noticed that

1306
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: when I smoked, and I forgot to take my pills

1307
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: right that I still felt pretty good. And then as

1308
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: I started learning more, I kind of had this idea,

1309
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: I want to see how long I can go in

1310
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: the season without having to take pills.

1311
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: So I just created like a health regiment.

1312
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: After practice, I come home and because I was being

1313
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: drug tested, two hits, you.

1314
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: Know, I could take two hits, you know, two hits

1315
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: and and do my little stretches.

1316
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: And I started to notice that this actually works better

1317
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: for me.

1318
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: And so I had my own little routine.

1319
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,959
Speaker 2: And then but but I messed up on one morning

1320
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 2: and forgot to take the drink, ended up filling that

1321
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: second drug test, and then and then it became public,

1322
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: and then everything kind of hit the fan. But but

1323
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: I found a way to use cannabis to take care

1324
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: of myself and also just the mental and emotional strain.

1325
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: You know.

1326
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: It got to the point where I was like, do

1327
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: I really want to do this? And when I first

1328
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: fell a drug test, I tried to stop. But I

1329
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: got to the point where it's like, I don't know

1330
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: if I want to do this. If I can't smoke,

1331
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's worth it.

1332
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, you know, especially when.

1333
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: You got a little money in the bank and you

1334
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: start to realize, you know, what's the quality of my life?

1335
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: Man? It changed everything for man.

1336
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. Man, I'm forty four years old.

1337
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: I played twenty years in the NBA, I got three kids.

1338
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: Step mother passed away, my father passed away, my mother

1339
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: passed away. I mean, I done been at enough funerals.

1340
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 3: I smoked out. When I get home, the soccer mom

1341
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 3: might have her glass of wine, I might have my joint.

1342
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: I don't knock her for her glass of wine. Don't

1343
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: knock me for my jack. You know what I'm saying,

1344
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 3: Like for real, for real, and I'm gonna be honest

1345
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 3: with you. As I've gotten into the business, and you know,

1346
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 3: we have our own dispensaries placed around Florida. A lot

1347
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: of times when I walk into our dispensaries, it's the

1348
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 3: soccer moms that's in the goddamn like, it's the soccer

1349
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 3: moms that's in the lines. So you know, Yeah, the

1350
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 3: other day, take a picture with me and told me

1351
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: she can't tell her kids because she can't tell them

1352
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: what sheet shout out. You know who you are, Appreciate

1353
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: you, You know what I'm saying, but yeah, she's like, I

1354
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: can't show my kids because they're gonna ask where I'm at.

1355
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like people are

1356
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: starting to understand, you know what I'm saying, the cannabis

1357
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: and the flower and just the effects of it, you

1358
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And to me, overall, we still

1359
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 3: don't know. I think it's still more that we can

1360
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 3: learn about it, and I think there's still more benefits

1361
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: of it, you know what I'm saying.

1362
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the biggest thing is with the benefits

1363
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 2: is people have such a negative association, like you said,

1364
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: they have to hide it. That is, it's hard to

1365
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: allow yourself to enjoy something that you're not supposed to

1366
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: be doing. So I think the more people that just

1367
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: come out and tell the truth about their experiences, I

1368
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: think we're going to see it change because to this point,

1369
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 2: right people are willing to talk about that they're taking

1370
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: anti depressants.

1371
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: Man, and people talking about taking those they talk about

1372
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 3: taking tho zippic and ship. Now we're gonna talk about

1373
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 3: those zip that ship. We can't talk about smoking a

1374
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 3: little joint.

1375
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: Yeah it's changing though, come on, man, uh, a little

1376
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: NFL wrap up about you by draft Kings here. This

1377
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 4: is an interesting storyline to me, and again I'm going

1378
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: into because football season is fun. Right now, that storyline

1379
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 4: in the NFC East with Philly with we talked about,

1380
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 4: we touched on Saquon right their plus one thretey five

1381
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: to win division. Jane Daniels has been a fucking monster

1382
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 4: by the way, Yes, their plus one twenty then Dallas

1383
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 4: was their story line is always gonna be their story.

1384
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 4: Who you got in that division? Do you think Philly

1385
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: figures it out? Or do you think Washington wins at the division?

1386
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: I don't think either, Honestly, I don't. I think it's

1387
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: too early to count the Cowboys out.

1388
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 4: Really.

1389
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as because you know, wow, hot take

1390
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: a huge, huge value right there, tap dance on the

1391
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: air like that. Yeah, you know, because it's they're at

1392
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: a sensitive point in their season where they're either because

1393
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: I've been here with yes, either you wake up and

1394
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: you start to show up.

1395
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: Yes, or they're going to moment true Yeah, they're gonna

1396
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: turn it down.

1397
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: And I think they have the most experience and the

1398
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: most talent and the memory of going going into the playoffs.

1399
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: So I think if they can, if they can turn

1400
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: it around. Second would be Philly. You know, I really

1401
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: like Saquon. They need to figure out. They need to

1402
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: figure out, like some things, before it gets too late.

1403
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: I just don't trust. I just don't trust Washington. I

1404
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: gotta I gotta see it, you know, I gotta. I

1405
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: gotta see a rookie quarterback hit the rookie ball. Come out,

1406
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: come out on the other side.

1407
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 4: All y'all, for all y'all, watch o gs man get

1408
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: your money right plus four twenty five take the Cowboys

1409
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 4: and gosh damn, you heard it here?

1410
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: Which one you like?

1411
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: Ud?

1412
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 3: I gotta go with the Eagles, you know, I got

1413
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 3: I gotta go with the Eagles. I gotta believe they're talented.

1414
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: They're just not playing to the level of their talent

1415
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 3: right now. For whatever reason.

1416
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 4: They just got their two wider tivers back for the

1417
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 4: first time.

1418
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 3: I know that already. But even before that, when they

1419
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: I watched them, I got both of them on my

1420
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: fantasy AJ Brown in one league and I got Demante

1421
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: Smith in the other league. So I've been watching them

1422
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 3: and they still haven't been playing to the level that

1423
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be playing. That I don't know what's

1424
00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: up with that defense right now.

1425
00:58:59,520 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: Either.

1426
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: They're not playing very well on the defensive end. The

1427
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: coach just cussed out the fans the other day. They

1428
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: came back and apologized for shit all fucked.

1429
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 4: Up right now.

1430
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: But I gotta believe that if they can pull it together,

1431
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 3: like like Ricky said, you come to a moment of

1432
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 3: truth in a season where it's like, Okay, what the

1433
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: fuck we're gonna do? You know what I'm saying, We're

1434
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 3: gonna do what we supposed to do, or we're gonna

1435
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: just let this shit fall apart. And I gotta believe

1436
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 3: that they're gonna come to if they haven't already come

1437
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: to a point of the season where they're gonna decide

1438
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: to turn the shit around. Right now, they just don't

1439
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: look like they enjoying it. It doesn't look very enjoyable

1440
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: to me right now watching Philadelphia player.

1441
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: They have so much talent.

1442
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: If they figure it out, especially offense, they could be dangerous.

1443
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: But I don't know how it is in basketball, but

1444
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: football you only have seventeen you know, when I played

1445
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: sixteen shots and so.

1446
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: One loss it hurts. They don't have the ability to rebound.

1447
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: That's why if Dallas buys into everyone's doubt, they're in trouble.

1448
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you one thing about Philly, and I

1449
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: think this is what people underestimate. The loss of Jason Kelse,

1450
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 3: the leadership of having a guy in the locker room,

1451
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And if I'm not mistaken,

1452
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 3: a lot of times when you get up on the

1453
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: offensive line, your center is making a lot of calls. Yep,

1454
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So the loss of a

1455
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 3: Jason Kelse, you know, on that offensive line making those

1456
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 3: calls different things like that, that could be a reason

1457
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: why the offense is struggling. And also the loss of

1458
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 3: his voice in the locker room, that leadership, holding guys accountable,

1459
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: holding guys to that championship standard in that level. This

1460
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: motherfucker played every game for like ten years some shit

1461
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: like that, Like he never missed a game, you know

1462
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So imagine you know the mindset of

1463
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 3: a guy like that and what he was able to do,

1464
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: and if you can hold everybody in the locker room

1465
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: to that standard or at least close to that. So

1466
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 3: I think that might hurt them a little bit too.

1467
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 4: One more that I have to talk on because it's

1468
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 4: it's selfishly for me. The NFC North, my Minnesota Viking.

1469
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: You're welcome, Thank you, d You're welcome. We gave y'all

1470
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: Brian Florees welcome.

1471
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 4: But that division. Don't look now, but the NFC North

1472
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: might be the best division in football.

1473
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: The defense Minnesota, I mean you're.

1474
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 4: Talking Minnesota Detroit plus one forty. I mean the Packers

1475
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 4: gotta be right there too.

1476
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: The defense is crazy over the Packers.

1477
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: That's probably my favorite, my favorite division division to.

1478
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: Watch right I see Lead Football right now. Yeah. I

1479
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: love what Jared Golf is doing. That's a cool story.

1480
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 4: It is a really cool ste.

1481
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: And then I think Minnesota has shocked shocked everyone to me,

1482
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: it's so funny.

1483
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Sam Donald ain't too far away from the

1484
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 4: Jared Golf story, you know. I mean, high draft pick,

1485
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, and then.

1486
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: You get another shot. That's what I was saying. It's

1487
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: the scheme.

1488
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: It's the scheme, and especially with the quarterback, the relationship

1489
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: between the coordinator, the head coach and the quarterback. If

1490
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: you can figure that out, you got a chance. You

1491
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: got a chance to win. But every football season It's

1492
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: like a new group of guys, you know. I think

1493
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: of it like a suit all that we have to

1494
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: have the right amount of gredients and they all.

1495
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: Have to cook well together.

1496
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: But if you figure that out any team, there's enough

1497
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 2: talent on any team that they can rise.

1498
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 4: Who you got there though, you got Minnesota.

1499
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: I got Minnesota.

1500
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 4: Yeah you hear that.

1501
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: I gotta go Minnesota with that. I like that. I'm

1502
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: a Florida guy. I like Brian Floryd. I like it. Yeah,

1503
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't go and gains him actually invited

1504
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: me out to Dolphin Camp when he was a coach.

1505
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: He did.

1506
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: It's been out there with the team and talk to

1507
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: the guys.

1508
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 4: Before we get off there. I have to ask. I

1509
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 4: have to ask these two trades that just happened, Devonte

1510
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 4: Adams and Cooper do they change? That changed much for

1511
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 4: the Jets.

1512
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: I think it gives them hope and I think that's

1513
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: what they need.

1514
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 4: Really.

1515
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he brings someone like Aaron Rodgers, and especially

1516
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: in the beginning, everyone's going to give him the benefit

1517
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: of the doubt because he deserves it, you know. But

1518
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: then you start people start to lose confidence.

1519
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: You're in trouble.

1520
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: So I think this gives people another reason to be

1521
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: confident and buys Aaron a little bit more time to show,

1522
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: to show that.

1523
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: He can be a leader.

1524
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 4: I'm excited for them.

1525
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 3: Question top five running backs right now, all the time.

1526
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: Your top five.

1527
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: Number one has to be Jim Brown.

1528
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:52,959
Speaker 3: Jim Brown.

1529
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: Number two has to be Barry Sanders.

1530
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: He was early too. He's a torch.

1531
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't get him? Yeah, come back, yeah, yeah.

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: I say, you know, after after one and two, you

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01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: know it gets a little tricky. But Adrian Peterson a

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01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 2: p Yeah, yeah, I think he's He's number three four

1535
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: in his heyday, Eric Dickerson. You know they put the

1536
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: old games now, old old NFL games on YouTube, and

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01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: I go back and watch, like this, playoff games in

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01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: the late seventies and early eighties.

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Speaker 1: When football was football number five. Sweetness, isn't it crazy?

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Speaker 4: I don't crazy. When they show old games, it's always

1541
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 4: cold and snowy too, smells like football and spells you

1542
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 4: sitting there watching the football. It's like, damn, I'm playing

1543
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 4: this game right now. Now. You watch his playoff games, sonny,

1544
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 4: and right like old football games brings fucking old.

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01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't nothing like what I mean. What do you

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01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: think about the new kickoff rule? You like it? You think?

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01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it's definitely keeps guys health, you know what

1548
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,959
Speaker 3: I'm saying, keeps guys from coming downhill thirty forty yards

1549
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: from away from each other full speed.

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01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: That you know, it's difficult, I think in anyone as

1551
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: you get older and you see the games evolved. You know,

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01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm kind of a traditionalist, so I missed the old game,

1553
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: but I can appreciate as a player that health is important,

1554
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: and I think it's it's still entertaining. I think it's

1555
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: difficult as sports evolved how to how to maintain the

1556
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 2: integrity of the game, yes, while still keeping the player safe.

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01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 4: Hey, before we let you out of here, we gotta

1558
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 4: ask you paying questions though. Yeah, I like this one.

1559
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 4: I hear what was the hardest hit or hitter you

1560
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 4: ever took while playing?

1561
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: It's easy?

1562
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 4: Who hit you?

1563
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: Easy? Easy? Easy?

1564
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 4: Ray?

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01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: Lewis b I was about.

1566
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: To say, Ray, Yeah, I mean it's funny.

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01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: In this past week I heard a couple of people

1568
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: talking about how the way he trained, he just made

1569
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: himself solid, you know, And and I played against him

1570
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: in my last year. I played with him, and even

1571
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: in practice and walked through when you just walked through

1572
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: the hole and I had to get in his way.

1573
01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: I was like, man.

1574
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 2: But but playing against him, he was so fast, He's so smart,

1575
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: anticipates everything. You just know if you're playing him, it's

1576
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: gonna hurt.

1577
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt.

1578
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 4: Oh Oh, Texas versus my Miami National champion final, Well yeah,

1579
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 4: I mean we'd love to see that.

1580
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: Lined up for that.

1581
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami got a hold on, But yeah, I want

1582
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: to see him.

1583
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: Texas got a hold on. You mean Miami.

1584
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: We was, we was in the playoffs last year. Man, listen,

1585
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: all right, what's the last time I mean saying you're right?

1586
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: You're right?

1587
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 3: You haven't been down for.

1588
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I know what I say.

1589
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: Thanks. I got two words, cam wo.

1590
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: I seen it.

1591
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 3: That's all I'm gonna say, cam War.

1592
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 4: I saw one other one before we get off here.

1593
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 4: You played guitar?

1594
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: Really, I pick it up?

1595
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: And I got a three year old now, so I

1596
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: learned how to play wheels on the wheels on the bus.

1597
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

1598
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: So it's nice to have some kind of musical ability

1599
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: where I can, you know, if I hear a song,

1600
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: I really like it's a nice way to relax, you know,

1601
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 2: pick up the guitar a little bit.

1602
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 3: Fan. We didn't get into a family, like, but I

1603
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: know you just mentioned your wife and you say you

1604
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 3: got a three year old. Now, like, what's your village though, wife?

1605
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 3: How many kids?

1606
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1607
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: I have six kids, three of them four of them

1608
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 2: are eighteen and older.

1609
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: Then I have a thirteen year old and I have

1610
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: a three year old.

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01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 3: So what's the boy girl ratio?

1612
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: It's four four boys, two girls?

1613
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 3: What boys? Two girls?

1614
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 4: Okay, play football?

1615
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: They played football, some of them played. My thirteen year

1616
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: old he plays. He goes to a small school, but

1617
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: he plays. He loves it.

1618
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: By my little one, my three year old, I could

1619
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: tell he's he we don't.

1620
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: Turn it, he don't turn it down.

1621
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: It's always the youngest. He got all the game. The

1622
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 3: youngest one get all the game.

1623
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, man, we really appreciate you coming in bro

1624
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 4: for real, that was I learned it. I ain't gonna

1625
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 4: lot to you like you needed this social media when

1626
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 4: you're called because a lot second what we we got talking.

1627
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 4: I got something for he got something for Greek. But don't,

1628
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: for real, I appreciate you coming to that was. I

1629
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 4: had a lot of I had a lot of fun.

1630
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 4: I learned a lot today. That was fucking man. I

1631
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 4: appreciate you coming in here. Thanks for having me, and

1632
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: you did you did hand out gifts okay, yes, yes.

1633
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 1: We got here, got some gear okay, h you away

1634
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: in Jersey.

1635
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate that the forty O g.

1637
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 3: Help him this right here.

1638
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: I appreciate that I got two of them in here,

1639
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: get right.

1640
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Thank you.

1641
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: You might run for six.

1642
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 3: We see, we see breaking news, man of retirement.

1643
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 4: But appreciate you.

1644
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 3: But I got one more question before you go. Can

1645
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 3: you sign the Jersey Dog?

1646
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: Of course?

1647
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, man, Thank you for taking the time. Brother.

1648
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 3: I am a fan. I have very few fan moments,

1649
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 3: Jaylen Wadle. I was a fan obviously you. I was

1650
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 3: a fan everybody else. I'm just appreciative that I'm coming on.

1651
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 3: We do appreciate that. Bro.

1652
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: Oh geez, I appreciate y'all.

1653
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 3: That's up.

1654
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 2: My love, my my, my, my my,