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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We were talking about the Rams and what

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Speaker 1: decisions they have in the offseason. I didn't mention that

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell is going to take the Vikings job. He's

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. Andrew Whitworth is going to retire, from

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Speaker 1: what I'm told, the Walter Payton Man of the Year.

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Speaker 1: He's forty years of age. Aaron Donald did not shoot

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Speaker 1: down the rumors that he's thinking about retiring. Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: is hurt. He's a free agent. Von Miller is also

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Speaker 1: a free agent. It's not easy to get back to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. It's not easy to get to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And I don't want to be on record

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Speaker 1: as saying the Bengals won't get back to a super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: because that's where people look silly with their hot takes.

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Speaker 1: I think, just looking at it and putting an in perspective,

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Speaker 1: it'll be difficult for them to get back, very difficult,

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Speaker 1: even though you do have some building blocks and nucleus there.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, when we felt like, hey, Dan

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Speaker 1: Marino is going to get back a lot of these

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Speaker 1: guys think they're going to get back. Russell Wilson probably

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Speaker 1: still thinks he's going to get back Aaron Rodgers going

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Speaker 1: to get back. It's just there's so much luck that

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Speaker 1: goes into this. And I think you saw that with

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. They were just good enough when they needed

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Speaker 1: to be. And it says a lot about them because

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Speaker 1: there are times where I didn't think they were that

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Speaker 1: good at football team. Let's bring in Ross Tucker, our

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Speaker 1: good buddy, the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. He works for

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Speaker 1: CBS in Westwood One, the former offensive lineman. Well, I

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Speaker 1: could you imagine having the task of trying to stop

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald there in the final five, seven, ten minutes

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Speaker 1: of that game there? Ross, Oh yeah, I can imagine.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy that went in the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, Bryant Young, who was not Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 1: but was a similar type of player. And I've actually

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Speaker 1: talked to guys about the best way to try to

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Speaker 1: block Aaron Donald. Some guys dan, we'll try to just

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Speaker 1: jump him and grab him right there, but he's so

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Speaker 1: good with his hands that you can look real bad.

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Speaker 1: So people I've talked to said, oh, the best move

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Speaker 1: is to just set back a little bit, give a

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Speaker 1: little bit ground. Well, he was bul rushing the crap

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Speaker 1: out of those guys last night. I'm not sure there

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Speaker 1: is a really good answer. When they were double teaming

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Speaker 1: him and sliding to him, that helped. It is funny though,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know if you've ever done this with

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Speaker 1: him on your show. I know you have the guys

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Speaker 1: read their draft profiles, but it's so funny because he

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Speaker 1: didn't go top ten because people were worried about how

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Speaker 1: short he was. It just it just seems so funny

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Speaker 1: now by the way, they're like, who cares how tall

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Speaker 1: you are for a defensive tackle? Who who would you

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Speaker 1: have given the MVP two co MVPs Cooper Cup and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Yeah, that's you can't do that. You got

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Speaker 1: to give it to somebody, one person. Okay, Um, well

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Speaker 1: there has been a year though where there was co MVPs. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you have to give it to somebody, I don't

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Speaker 1: have a problem with Cooper Cup. It would not have

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Speaker 1: been Stafford. I don't think I think it would have

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Speaker 1: been Cup or Donald. You know the thing that people

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Speaker 1: are forgetting is after Stafford through the interception on the

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Speaker 1: Ram's first offensive play, Aaron Donald had two sacks, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals had just gotten the bomb the te Higgins,

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Speaker 1: They're up seventeen thirteen. Then they get the interception by

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Speaker 1: a Woozier. Donald chases Joe Burrow out of bounds, and

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Speaker 1: then third down Higgins is open. Donald bullrush his identity

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Speaker 1: and get a sack those that was huge. If the

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Speaker 1: Bengals score a touchdown there, I think the game is very,

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Speaker 1: very different. And then he closed it out at the

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Speaker 1: end as well. I think he can make a strong

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Speaker 1: argument for Aaron Donald. But I'm fine with Cooper Cup too.

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Speaker 1: He took over that last drive even when it seemed

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Speaker 1: like he was the only legit weapon the Rams could

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Speaker 1: really go to. How could the Bengals have won this well,

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Speaker 1: several different ways. First of all, it's kind of crazy

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Speaker 1: to me, Dan that they ran the ball so much

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Speaker 1: if you would have told me the Bengals would run

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Speaker 1: I would have been surprised. I have to be honest

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Speaker 1: the way it is right, you have a young quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's very good. There's gonna be five thousand Bengals fans

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Speaker 1: if you say anything bad at all. Dan. He just

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Speaker 1: takes sacks that you cannot take. He puts his team

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Speaker 1: missed a critical throw to Jamar Chase when Chase was

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Speaker 1: I really thought that Burrow was fine. Burrow had a

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Speaker 1: good game, but for the Bengals to win in that game,

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Speaker 1: they needed him to be better in the second half.

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Speaker 1: They need him to be clutch, and he kind of

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Speaker 1: a chance. You just can't keep taking sacks like he did.

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Speaker 1: How do you explain the Rams defense being so dominating

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Speaker 1: in the second half, or certainly in that fourth quarter. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think one thing they did was they did a

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Speaker 1: little surprised that the Rams didn't do that in the

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Speaker 1: first half. You know, simple math, right, you got four

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Speaker 1: d lineman rushing five offensive lineman. You can send the

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Speaker 1: the whole time when they would walk the linebackers up

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Speaker 1: like Reader or Ernest Jones or even guys off the edge, well,

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Speaker 1: they had in the first half, and they clearly took advantage.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of the officiating last night? Okay? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I was disappointed, really disappointed in the holding penalty against

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Speaker 1: half left. I thought it was perfect coverage on Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 1: I'm of the belief Dan, when in doubt, don't throw

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Speaker 1: the flag. They had let the guys play all game,

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Speaker 1: all game, they let him play and then it wasn't

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Speaker 1: even tikie tack. To me, there was no foul there

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Speaker 1: Logan Wilson. I thought it was the worst call of

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Speaker 1: the game. However, the first play of the second half,

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Speaker 1: Tee Higgins clearly tugged Jalen Ramsey's face mask, which is

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Speaker 1: I can live with that. But I would always rather

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Speaker 1: foul that's not there. In general, though, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's the reason why the Rams won the game. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it should be the main topic of conversation today,

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Speaker 1: And as long as that's the case, I'll say they

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Speaker 1: did no k job. More likely to get back to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl next year, Rams Bengals. I think they

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Speaker 1: both have a really tough task of doing that, but

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Speaker 1: I'll go with the Rams. You know, the two favorites

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Bills. You know, in the AFC, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be rough for the Bengals. I mean rough. They

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Speaker 1: got a good young team, But I heard you talking

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Speaker 1: is not as easy to get back as these teams

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Speaker 1: to get back there again. Next year would be tough.

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Speaker 1: The NFC is just much more open and the Rams

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Speaker 1: seem much more open to doing whatever it takes to

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Speaker 1: So maybe Aarondill need some more money, that's fine. I

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Speaker 1: think they'll try to find a way to bring Van back.

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Speaker 1: We'll see with Odell at that injury now. But the

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Speaker 1: Rams are very much a win now. This is our window.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's not just because of the players

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Speaker 1: good again next year. What do you do if you're

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Speaker 1: the Bengals in the off season, Well, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: heavy offensive line. I think we know that. I think

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Speaker 1: they're good at skill. They're in a good spot Dan

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Speaker 1: where they can't even pay Burrow yet, they can't even

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Speaker 1: pay Jamar Chase yet. A lot of times these guys

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Speaker 1: really good spot. I think they'll probably add one veteran

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they love Eli Apple being but this

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Speaker 1: is a pretty good team. They're not far away. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be in the mix. I just don't think they'll

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Speaker 1: end up being the Chiefs and the Bills again. But

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get the offensive line better. They're gonna be

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Speaker 1: more money. Do you think that's the ploy of him

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Speaker 1: saying to Rodney Harrison that you know, may walk away

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Speaker 1: why he's saying it. I think it's something he's legitimately considered.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you this does not bother me. Right.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a smart guy. He's done everything he

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Speaker 1: could really do as a player. Most people think he's

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Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players ever. He's already made

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Speaker 1: a ton of money. You know, Dan was CTE and

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Speaker 1: with everyone knowing the long term ramifications of playing especially

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Speaker 1: amount of shots he takes. If he says, you know what,

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Speaker 1: in awesome eight years, I'm gonna go to live the

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Speaker 1: rest of my life, be able to be with my

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Speaker 1: family healthy. My shoulders and knees are okay. My brain,

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Speaker 1: I think it's like I don't need to do this anymore.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be wonderful. I'd be happy for him.

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Speaker 1: But it seems like when these guys are away from

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Speaker 1: to think, Okay, what would I do next? And it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be the fourteen and a half million

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Speaker 1: the RAMS is supposed to pay him. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: if that's what it takes, the RAMS, I think will

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Speaker 1: sweeten the pilot. It'd be like Aaron, how about House

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Speaker 1: twenty million sound. I think that's hard to turn down.

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Speaker 1: You know, you realize I want to live sixty more

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Speaker 1: years over twenty million dollars. I think he'll end up playing.

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Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he retires, but I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised if he gets a little contracts sweetener to do.

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Speaker 1: So great to talk to you, buddy, Thanks and we

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Speaker 1: Spleen and got around the corner. There's no chance you

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Speaker 1: got to force him to go around. It's easier, said

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Speaker 1: so I'd just said off of them and just said, hey,

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Speaker 1: all right, Aaron, if you're gonna get sacks today, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna go right through me, because I'm not gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna sit right down a line of scrimmage. Let

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Speaker 1: you beat me immediately. He's just a fabulous player. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's one of the you know, every great defensive alignment,

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Speaker 1: every great pass rusher. You have to have speed in power.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think you could just beat. You know,

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Speaker 1: good offensive alignment with one of you if you just

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Speaker 1: have one in your arsenal and Aaron Donald has it all.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think it turned last night for the Bengals? Um,

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Speaker 1: you know it was, I'll say, I mean before I

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Speaker 1: answer this, it was the least watched Super Bowl I've

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Speaker 1: ever watched, man, because I was enjoying the moment so

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Speaker 1: much about the Hall of Fame for this week and

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Speaker 1: having a good time. So this might not be my

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Speaker 1: best work. And um, you know I thought, I thought

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Speaker 1: when they settled for some field goals in that tight

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Speaker 1: red zone, I think that's what hurt them. And I

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Speaker 1: was shocked at the end in two minutes that they

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Speaker 1: get in the shotgun you need you need a half

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Speaker 1: a yard, I mean, get up there and take your chances.

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Speaker 1: I mean that will That shocked me. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: not why they lost the game. I mean they felt

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Speaker 1: like that was their best chance. But the red zone

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Speaker 1: production and then also just you know, I don't understand

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Speaker 1: why teams under a yard are getting in the shotgun

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Speaker 1: and throwing the ball. I mean, if you can't get

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Speaker 1: a half a yard, you probably don't deserve to win.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations and uh, long time coming, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: wish your father could have been there for you. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that you'll acknowledge that in your speech, and we

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Speaker 1: look forward to hearing that. Dan. I appreciate and I

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Speaker 1: do appreciate all the sport of you and the show

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Speaker 1: and all the guys on the show throughout the years.

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Speaker 1: That is not lost on me, and I appreciate it greatly.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Bunn. We appreciate your time. That's Tony BASSELLI

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Speaker 1: now calling him a Hall of Famer and first ever

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Speaker 1: player drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars back in nineteen ninety five. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: it seems pretty fair when guys' careers are derailed by injury.

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Speaker 1: It's like, um, Quintin Nelson, that offensive guard for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: He's cruising to the Hall of Fame right now. I

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Speaker 1: think he's three straight Pro Bowls and his first three

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Speaker 1: straight seasons. That's like Anthony Muno's type stuff. But if

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Speaker 1: somehow Quintin Nelson got hurt at age twenty nine, there's

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Speaker 1: only you know, there's only so much you can do

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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, and that's what happened to Tony, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he got hurt and normally we'll look at a

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Speaker 1: skilled position player like Terrell Davis and you go, you know,

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Speaker 1: he kind of Gale says, you know, they had that

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Speaker 1: five or six year window Kirby Puckett with the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Twins where injury cut short their career and then you're

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Speaker 1: left to speculate on what could have been. And I

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Speaker 1: just once again, I just saw Bisselli and I just

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Speaker 1: thought that he was different. And having been able to

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Speaker 1: see Anthony Munos with the Bengals, who I think's the

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Speaker 1: best offensive lineman ever, and you know, here's Munos, who

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Speaker 1: is Tony Basselli's idol, knocking on the door to say congratulations,

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Speaker 1: that's well produced. It's something that we wouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: to do. But that's that's what. How does his wife

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Speaker 1: keep a secret like that? That's the amazing part is

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Speaker 1: she finds out and then she's got to not tell

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Speaker 1: anybody him. And don't you think you'd let it slip

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Speaker 1: or you'd be on the phone with somebody and hey,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to get this party together. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: able to keep a secret on that easy. One of

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Speaker 1: the worst people to keep a secret are totally ruined

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Speaker 1: it Basselli of the entire group. Yeah, Terry and Rochester

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Speaker 1: best and worst of the weekend? Hi, Terry, what's on

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Speaker 1: your mind today? How are you doing to day? Dan Good?

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Speaker 1: Terry Good? I wanted to say my best of the

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Speaker 1: weekend was with more winning for his team. He'd probably

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Speaker 1: retiring right up to the sunset yep for the Rams

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals, Man, I hate, I hate that call. Man,

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Speaker 1: that car I know we don't want to keep talking

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Speaker 1: about them. For that call. You would have had a

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Speaker 1: tall a tax for the Rams going fourth and nine,

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Speaker 1: fourth and ten. I would have rather see him win

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Speaker 1: like that than the rest inside the game because that

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Speaker 1: would have been a tall tast for the Rams to

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Speaker 1: win that game for one minute left. Even if they

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Speaker 1: stopped that, they would have had us all the time house.

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Speaker 1: Thanks all right, Terry. Yeah, you know the calling Logan

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Speaker 1: Wilson I didn't think was a good call. It was

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Speaker 1: their contact, yes, but at the at the point of

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Speaker 1: impact where the ball is headed towards Cooper Cup, Wilson

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Speaker 1: removes his hands from Cooper Cup and he made a

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Speaker 1: great play on the ball. Now would they have scored maybe,

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Speaker 1: but you didn't want that game to be decided or

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Speaker 1: influenced by one of those calls. That was it. And

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Speaker 1: as soon as I saw the flag come out, and

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Speaker 1: I go, oh boy, it's going to be a topic

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Speaker 1: of conversation. And I thought Wilson played a wonderful game.

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Speaker 1: I thought that Bengals defense played a wonderful game. No

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Speaker 1: big names over there, but it was. That was a

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Speaker 1: great performance. They shut down the Rams running game and

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Speaker 1: it made it even more remarkable. I mean, Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: had to come up with a game plan here, Kevin O'Connor,

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Speaker 1: they had to come up with a different game plan.

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Speaker 1: Imagine you start the Super Bowl and you say this

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Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you can't run the football, and then you don't have

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham for three quarters and you have Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 1: But you know, that's what makes the Rams super Bowl champs.

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Speaker 1: The guys who you asked to step up need to

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Speaker 1: step up did and for the Bengals, that did not

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Speaker 1: happen when they needed them. Thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

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Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six nine Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and you can find us on

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on

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Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth

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Speaker 1: Hour with Ben Maller along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon.

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Speaker 1: is the Fifth Hour? I'll tell you it's a spin

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Speaker 1: off of that Ben Maller show, cult hit overnights on FSR.

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Speaker 1: Why should you listen? Picture if you will a world

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. Let's bring in Ryan Clark here,

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Speaker 1: the ESPN NFL analyst to want a Super Bowl with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. What did you think of the halftime show there? Ryan?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was amazing. You like my father, definitely

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Speaker 1: think that France singing Purple Rain and Rain is the

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Speaker 1: best one. You know how it is we have recency biased,

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Speaker 1: you know. At the time I saw that one, I

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Speaker 1: didn't think it was the best. Purple Rain was the

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Speaker 1: first m R rated movie I got to see. It

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Speaker 1: was the first Boobs I ever got to look at

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Speaker 1: it on TV when she jumped in the waters of

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Speaker 1: Lake Montanka. But it really wasn't that late, you know,

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Speaker 1: so that that was definitely nostalgic for me. And it

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Speaker 1: was amazing because he's obviously and honestly probably the greatest musician,

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Speaker 1: total musician that we've ever had played um at the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But you know, I was in there last night. Man,

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Speaker 1: I think for me, you know, I'm thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: ninety two Chronic, you know, Chronic two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: eight mile. Obviously, I'm a huge Kendrick Lamar fans, and

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Speaker 1: you know, being able to be there and be a

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Speaker 1: part of it, it was the one I enjoyed the most,

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Speaker 1: you know, and so and so and so. I think

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Speaker 1: we can all go back and forth about which one

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Speaker 1: was best, man, but I thought it was I thought

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Speaker 1: it was smart to use the La folks. Obviously, Mary J.

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Speaker 1: Blige is you know, queen of r and being hip hop.

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Speaker 1: So I thought it was a real good show. All right,

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Speaker 1: where do you want to start? The Bengals lost because

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Speaker 1: or the Bengals lost because of what I think everybody

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Speaker 1: always thought they would lose forward and the end of

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Speaker 1: the game was offensive line. We knew if it got

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Speaker 1: into a game where they had to block Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: and you know, Leonard Floyd also Von Miller, that it

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Speaker 1: could be very difficult. This is the team that the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans sank nine times, and so the thing that

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Speaker 1: you'd be playing against the greatest defensive player of our

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Speaker 1: era at defensive tackle and that wouldn't affect the game

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Speaker 1: at some point, I think it's crazy to believe. But

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Speaker 1: on the other side of it, if Aaron Donald legally

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Speaker 1: pushes your quarterback inbounds to out of bounds, don't go

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Speaker 1: start a fight with a man you can't beat up right,

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Speaker 1: don't don't energize the leader of that defense. And if

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Speaker 1: you look throughout the night, I feel like the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals made stupid play after stupid play that hurt their

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Speaker 1: team from a punity standpoint, And on the other side

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Speaker 1: of that, they look like the less experienced football team.

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Speaker 1: Toward the end of the game, they look like the

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Speaker 1: team that had never been there before, which is something

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Speaker 1: that's tough because it doesn't mean, just because you're young,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get back there another time. What happened with

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup on the final drive? Lu Ana Rumo, the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator of the Cincinnati Bengals who's absolutely been phenomenal

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Speaker 1: in the second half of games, finally made his first mistake.

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Speaker 1: If I don't have Tyler Higbee on the field, if

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Speaker 1: I don't have Odell Beckham Junior on the field, I'm

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Speaker 1: probably playing Cooper Cup the way people played Calvin Johnson

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Speaker 1: in the red zone and vising him like it's punt team.

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup should have been doubled on every snap of

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Speaker 1: that drive. You knew he would be the go to guy. Instead,

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Speaker 1: they decided to play a ton of cover three, which

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Speaker 1: allowed Cooper Cup to manipulate the zone coverages and make plays.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously you have the Logan Wilson holding. You

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Speaker 1: have the DPI on Eli Apple, and for the life

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Speaker 1: of me, I do not know why you have Eli

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Speaker 1: Apple one on one with the best receiver at football

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Speaker 1: on the goal line. I'm taking that even if Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick is throwing, I would have completed that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's almost like it's like when the Patriots had single

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Speaker 1: coverage on Plexico burrs. Yes, Ellis Hobbs and you're going,

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Speaker 1: you know Eli's look, and he goes, We're gonna win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Yeah, it kind of break. It brings

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Speaker 1: to mind the Kylin Murray, the Kylin Murray video where

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Speaker 1: throwing it, he's smiling because you knew what type of

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Speaker 1: matchup you had. I'm sure that's the same way that

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford felt more likely to get back to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl next year. Rams are Bengals. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Rams have a lot of cap issues, so it depends

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Speaker 1: on who they who they're able to keep. But I

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Speaker 1: think you I think you'd say the Cincinnati Bengals in

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Speaker 1: the sense of they understand what they have to fix,

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Speaker 1: fix protection, add depth at the cornerback position, make sure

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Speaker 1: Jesse Bates is still on the team. You know, those

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Speaker 1: are those are the things that they have to do

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Speaker 1: to make sure this team is good again. I think

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Speaker 1: the only thing that sways you from that is a

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Speaker 1: guy named Patrick Mahomes, a guy named Josh Allen, a

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Speaker 1: guy named Justin Herbert, guy named Lamar Jackson. When you

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Speaker 1: look at the quarterbacks that are in the AFC. You

640
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: could probably say the Bengals may end up being the

641
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: better team in twenty twenty two, but the Los Angeles

642
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Rams will have the easier road. But I think the

643
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals have a great young nucleus, a team that's

644
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: going to be explosive for years to come, with those skills,

645
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: skill players, and an obvious fix to some of their els.

646
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: Did Joe Burrow do anything wrong last night? You know,

647
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he did anything wrong. I do think

648
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: this is the first time we could say in a

649
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: moment he needed to elevate and elevate a team above

650
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: its mean or above its opponent. This is the first

651
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: time we haven't seen him do it in a big moment,

652
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's been Georgia, Oklahoma, Clemson, Tennessee, Kansas City,

653
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. We're so used to seeing him in tight

654
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: games where teams might be better when that moment comes,

655
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: stepping up in that moment, and last night he didn't

656
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to do that. And now you can

657
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: also say that's because his guards, his two guards, and

658
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: his center didn't protect him. He was getting pressure into

659
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: his face the whole game, But I don't feel like

660
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: we give every quarterback that out. He played well, but

661
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: I just don't think when he had an opportunity to

662
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: have that Joe Burrow true legacy moment, that he made

663
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: the plays he needed to. We're talking to Ryan Clark,

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Speaker 1: the ESPN, the NFL analyst, and of course former defensive

665
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: back on a Super Bowl with the Steelers back. I

666
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: believe in two thousand and nine, Matthew Stafford now Hall

667
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: of Famer? Is it that simple? Um? I don't know.

668
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that simple, But I think

669
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: now the conversation is a lot closer, you know. UM,

670
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean I think it that's my wife's alarm. I

671
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: think it all depends. Um, is she's still sleeping. No,

672
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: she's a way. I'm not really sure why it's going

673
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: off right now, you know. I think it all depends

674
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: on how you saw Matthew Stafford's tenure in UM in Detroit.

675
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: I think obviously we all saw him as an elite talent. Um.

676
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: You have all the fourth quarter comebacks because they were

677
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: down so much, UM, and you have the Pro Bowls,

678
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: you have the numbers, and so if one is enough

679
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: for him to get there, then maybe and maybe I'll

680
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: say this, I don't think this makes him a first

681
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, you know, And so that maybe

682
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'll say, because so many times when I

683
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: think of Hall of famers, you almost get into like

684
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: no brainer land, right, Like if you walk into a

685
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: room of football players, of former football players or people

686
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: who love the game of football, and you say Barry Sanders,

687
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: everybody in that room goes yep. You know, you say

688
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning yep, Tom Brady yep. You know, Jonathan Odd

689
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: didn't yep. And I don't know if Matthew Stafford is

690
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: in that place of Hall of fame for me, So

691
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to say yeah, they're guaranteed the Hall

692
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: of Fame when you don't know if they're first ballot

693
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer or not. I call those guys the

694
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: no pause because if I say, if you say, hey,

695
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: is Matthew Stafford a Hall of Famer, and I pause,

696
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: then maybe he's not a Hall of Famer. Like Philip Rivers,

697
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: I might think a minute, yeah, I agree. But there

698
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: are certain guys where you go no pause. Not Devin

699
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: Hester didn't get in. It's Devin Hester gonna get into

700
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Yes, okay, yes, And I don't

701
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: think I don't think Devin Hester's problem is production or

702
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame success. I think Devin Hester's problem misposition. Right.

703
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: He played, He didn't necessarily star at a offensive or

704
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: defensive position. He was a specialist, and I think it's

705
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: difficult for us to see specialists as that important. And

706
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: you're not going to put Devin Hester over some of

707
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: these other positional players who have been waiting, you know,

708
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: but nobody's going to approach these numbers ever again, Ryan

709
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: with you know, we've diminished the kickoff and like you

710
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: don't even get those opportunities. These numbers are going to

711
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: stand a lifetime. Yeah, he's gonna be He's probably going

712
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: to be the last specialist to ever get in along

713
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: with being the first. The game. The game has changed,

714
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: you know so much. And if you were playing during

715
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: Devin's doing Devin Hester's time, you understood the magnitude of

716
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 1: his impact. Right, you understood that when you were playing

717
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears at that time, you gained planned more

718
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: for Devin Hester than you did Rex Grossman. Right, you

719
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: you were remember the Indianapolis kickoff that turned into six

720
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: right away, Like all of those moments are so prevalent

721
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: in my mind. And I don't know if you're you know,

722
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: if you're presenting him to the rest of the Hall

723
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: of Fame voters, you have to make sure people understood

724
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: the and understand the magnitude of his impact. Did you

725
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: meet anybody during Super Bowl Week that blew you away? Yeah?

726
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: And this is gonna sound very iur guess was it

727
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties of me? I met Herkul, I met j

728
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: a little White. I'm out to dinner. I have a

729
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: podcast called The Pivot now obviously the NFL Live, and

730
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: so I'm out to dinner with all of my friends.

731
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: Guy walks up to me with a mask, like taps

732
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: my chest, shakes my hand, hugs me, like, man, I

733
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: love your show. I love everything you do on TV.

734
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm always watching. But he has the mask on, and so,

735
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just kind of like, oh, thank you,

736
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: so you know the whole thing you do that, Thank

737
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: you so much, Munch, such a blessing. You know, we

738
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: got we got our lines, you know. And he takes

739
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: his mask off and I'm like, it's Mickey fikey Urkle,

740
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, and so and so like when it happens

741
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: and what you didn't call a merc, did you? In

742
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: my head? Not? Okay, Okay, I know his name is Jelil.

743
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: I called him Jalil, you know. But then you know,

744
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: Dan Orlowski stands up and Marcus spears and everybody at

745
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: the table is up because like that's our childhood, you know.

746
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: So for somebody like uh Jalil White to appreciate my

747
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: work after I said on every Friday or t gif

748
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: and watched him, you know, I thought it was just

749
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: a really a really cool moment and kind of like

750
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: a full circle young rhyme moment. By the way, Orlonski

751
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: is so obnoxious with this, Matthew Stafford love. You know,

752
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: I haven't turned the TV on. Yeah, he's got a

753
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: shirt on. You got a T shirt, says Matthew freaking Stafford.

754
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: He thinks he won the super Bowl. Not well, I

755
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: will tell you this, Dan, what I've learned about the

756
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: other day, and is you want a friend like him? Right?

757
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: Like if you want, if you need somebody to believe

758
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: in U DP and never waiver or never belief in you,

759
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: get you a friend like Dan allows I already know

760
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: if anybody ever walks up today and it's like Ryan

761
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: cart is a terrible analyst, Dan will die before he

762
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: allows that person to walk off and believe anything differently

763
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: of me. You know, it's crazy. I'll give you so.

764
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: You know. Dan was at the game last night in

765
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: Matthew's box, right, and it's sweet. Yes, And he planned

766
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: a red eye to make sure he could be at

767
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: work this morning just in case he wont like this

768
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: was this was plotted out DP, This wasn't this isn't

769
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: an accident that he has the T shirt ready and

770
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: all those things. He was not missing Monday morning. If

771
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford won the Super Bowl and uh, we were

772
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: texted throughout the game. We have a group text. Everybody's like,

773
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: could you imagine if Matthew Stafford loses this super Bowl

774
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: and Indianapolis Coats are talking about getting rid of Carson wins,

775
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: It'll be the worst Monday in Daniasky's house ever. Thanks

776
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: for getting up with us. I know you had a

777
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: long night, and thank you again throughout the season joining us.

778
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: We always appreciate your insights. Yes, sir, you have a

779
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: great one, all right. That's Ryan Clark. The mother Ship

780
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL analyst on a Super Bowl back with the

781
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: Steelers at O nine. Let's go around the room. Best

782
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: and worst of the weekend. I'm gonna start with you,

783
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: Todd Best and worst of the weekend. My best to

784
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: the weekend. Matthew Stafford leaving the rams of what would

785
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: be a game winning drive late in the fourth quarter.

786
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: Nice to see him after all those yeasons. Detroit getting

787
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: his ring. Worst the officials missing offensive past and France

788
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: on T higgins seventy five yard TD reception. If they're

789
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: pulling on Jalen Ramsey's face masks causing him to lose

790
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: his footing later explained by the refs that they didn't

791
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: see a grab, twist and turn on the play and

792
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: that's why they didn't call anything, all right, Seaton O'Connor.

793
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: Best and worst for the weekend. The best of the

794
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: weekend was the halftime show. I absolutely loved it. I

795
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: don't know if it'll be considered the best, but it

796
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: was my favorite of all time by far. Absolutely phenomenal.

797
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: My worst of the weekend Odell Beckham Junior getting hurt.

798
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm happy that he was able to catch that touchdown,

799
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: and I think he was probably on the way to

800
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: an MVP performance himself. But unfortunately, man that knee injury.

801
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: This is terrible, and I missed my opportunity to ask

802
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark about that turf. But I've watched the play

803
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: numerous times and it's just an awkward landing and turn

804
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: with Odell. I mean, those things happen. If you want

805
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: to look at a horrible football field where they held

806
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, go back to the Bengals and the Niners.

807
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: When Joe Montana throws the touchdown pass to John Taylor

808
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: like that was that was There was chunks of turf

809
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: that came up. I think Tim Crumrye, the great defensive

810
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: lineman for the Bengals, suffered a horrible knee injury because

811
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: of that turf there. But last night, I don't know

812
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: if anybody else had problems with that turf. Marvin, you

813
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: got a best and worst of the weekend. Hey Dan.

814
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I do oh best. Evan

815
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: McPherson staying out for the halftime show and not going

816
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: in the locker room. That was phenomenal. I guess he'd

817
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: have to be there for the secondary meeting. I didn't ye, Yeah, no,

818
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Worse was the inactive player from

819
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals getting the penalty when they had an interception.

820
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: Vernon Hargraves. Yeah, I don't. I don't know if he

821
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: made the team flight back. What is possessing you to

822
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: run out there to celebrate it? Just got an interception

823
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: and he's out there in a hoodie and it cost them.

824
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: It got a fifteen yard penalty. Can't you wait till

825
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: they come to the sidelines, Yeah, Paul. The one thing

826
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: about Evan McPherson, the kicker, he said he went out

827
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: there for the entire halftime, not like part of it.

828
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: I heard it interview Michael Irvin yesterday. He said that

829
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: one of the Cowboys Super Bowls, he said he was

830
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: going to the bathroom. He goes, coach, I got, I

831
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: really gotta go. He ran down the hallway and watched

832
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson for five minute because he wanted to see

833
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson at halftime. But the playmaker said, if there

834
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: were social media, people would have saw me and I

835
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: would have got crushed. Best and worst of the weekend.

836
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: My worst was also Vernon Hargraves. I saw a guy

837
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: in a hoodie. I thought it was a fan from

838
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: the stands for a second, and I thought they were

839
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: gonna throttle him. Yeah, neither best nor worst, just most awkward.

840
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows suit when he walked into the Super Bowl game,

841
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: he had a I would say, a black and white

842
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: zebra skin or a zebra look suit with hat. If

843
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: you win, that's the coolest outfit of all time. When

844
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: you lose, you have to walk out in your zebra outfit,

845
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: which looks us awkward at that said, you cannot bring

846
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: a losing outfit. You cannot have a muted, boring suit

847
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: in case you lose. Well, you can't wear the hat

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Speaker 1: after the game. Now you can wear the suit and

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Speaker 1: the hat going in. But I even I text the Danets,

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Speaker 1: I said, but that's gonna be a tough suit to wear.

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Speaker 1: If you lose the Super Bowl, and you know, you

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Speaker 1: show up in the prescott, it's like Cam Newton would

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Speaker 1: show up and you go, you just lost, and you

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Speaker 1: got an ostrich on your head, you got you got

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Speaker 1: a scarf on your head. It reminds me of a

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Speaker 1: raising Arizona where Nicholas Cage is robbing a store and

857
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Speaker 1: the guy at the store says, you got a penny

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Speaker 1: hose on your head, and he was trying to disguise

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Speaker 1: himself and he had panty hose on his head or

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Speaker 1: covering his face. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

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Speaker 1: Peacock Act. Update the poll results their seating before we

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Speaker 1: get to Carson Palm. Well, we're sticking with who had

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Speaker 1: the better night so far. We could change it up

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Speaker 1: if you want, but this is just a right now.

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Speaker 1: Ninety eight percent of our audience hates marriage. They've got

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Speaker 1: Taylor Raff got engaged. He did not have the better night.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty much split. Van Jefferson having a second child

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Speaker 1: right up at top, Eric Weddle with his torn peck

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Speaker 1: and coming out of nowhere with a big play. Forty

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Speaker 1: four percent. Yeah, I don't know, do you get okay?

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Speaker 1: So if I'm Taylor reps in his fiance, do you

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Speaker 1: ask would we have gotten engaged? If we lost the

879
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Like, do you even go down that rabbit hole? Yeah, Paul,

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00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: what if he did? What if the Rams lost? And

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Speaker 1: Rap goes up to it said, finds a little corner,

882
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Speaker 1: so it's not so publican and asked and she says, well,

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Speaker 1: I was hoping to be a two ring night. It's

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Speaker 1: either two rings of no ring. Okay. Carson Palmer, former

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback of course Heisman Trophy winner, his weekly appearance

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Level Select CBD. How the Bengals

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Speaker 1: lose this game? Well, it was just a magnificent game

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00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: for all of us fans, for the Cincinnati fans to

889
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: come in as an underdog and somebody that you know,

890
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Speaker 1: people didn't really give a shot or give a chance to.

891
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Speaker 1: They hung in there. They have the lead. This team

892
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Speaker 1: is here to stay. You know. They have a great

893
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Speaker 1: offseason ahead of him. With sixty million dollars, a suspended

894
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Speaker 1: free agency. Some players they're probably going to retain and

895
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Speaker 1: they can make a big splash in this free agency.

896
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: They've got to shore up that offensive line. There's a

897
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Speaker 1: bunch of vets, there's a bunch of guys tearin armstead

898
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Speaker 1: of New Orleans Saints is a great tackle. Brandon Shurff

899
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Speaker 1: is a great guard of the Washington commanders. That there's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys out there to go and get

901
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Speaker 1: and this is an opportunity to really build that. You know,

902
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Speaker 1: they have a four or five year window here. They

903
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Speaker 1: got Joe Burrows on a rookie deal. He's probably going

904
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Speaker 1: to resign a massive contract in twenty twenty four, so

905
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: they can they can attack free agency right now and

906
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Speaker 1: shore up that offensive line, give him some help, give

907
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Speaker 1: him some support, and still be be prepared for his

908
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Speaker 1: contract that's coming up in a couple of years. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how much confidence do you have in the Bengals that

910
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Speaker 1: they will do right by Joe Burrow? Not a lot.

911
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I just look at history, and history says

912
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: you know, they're happy with where they're at and they're

913
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Speaker 1: going to sit pat. But again, the way things are

914
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Speaker 1: structured right now, with the salary cap and free agency,

915
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Speaker 1: they can go and be super aggressive. They can. I mean,

916
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Speaker 1: Bob Miller's a free agent. They could use another pass

917
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Speaker 1: rush are a third down specialist. You know, Chandler Jones

918
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Speaker 1: is out there, another veteran great defensive end. They can

919
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Speaker 1: go out and attack free agency, because what they can

920
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Speaker 1: do with Joe's contract is they can sign him in

921
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four to a long term deal and backload

922
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Speaker 1: a ton of the money so that they still have

923
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Speaker 1: room in twenty twenty four for the Vets. They can

924
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Speaker 1: sign right now in twenty twenty two. Well, I think

925
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Speaker 1: it's tougher for the Bengals to try to come back

926
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Speaker 1: than the Rams because if I look at the two

927
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Speaker 1: favorites overall favorites, it'll be the Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills,

928
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Speaker 1: so two AFC teams, Whereas the NFC. If Aaron Rodgers leaves,

929
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's out of there, and maybe that bodes well.

930
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson could be out of the NFC as well.

931
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Speaker 1: That bodes well for the Rams coming back. Even though

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Speaker 1: you got Odell Beckham with his injury and a free

933
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Speaker 1: agent Von Miller free agent. You lose your offensive coordinator

934
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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connor, who takes the Vikings job, but you still

935
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Speaker 1: have Stafford at a bargain, he's I think twenty three

936
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Speaker 1: million dollars. Cooper cup is, you know whatever, sixteen million dollars.

937
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Speaker 1: So it seems like the Rams they'll have to replace Whitworth.

938
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to announce his retirement. But you

939
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Speaker 1: still have Jalen Ramsey. I mean, you still have some

940
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Speaker 1: impact players. But then you also have the Aaron Donald situation.

941
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Speaker 1: Like Rodney Harrison threw that out and I went, wait

942
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Speaker 1: a minute, this is the guy who's making nine million

943
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Speaker 1: dollars a year. It felt like it was a little

944
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Speaker 1: bit more of a I think I need to be

945
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Speaker 1: up around eighteen to twenty million dollars here, guys, or

946
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Speaker 1: I just might retire. What do you make of what

947
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Speaker 1: Donald said to Rodney? Yeah, I mean he's definitely positioning

948
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Speaker 1: himself for a pay increase. He's the fifth or six

949
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Speaker 1: highest paid defensive player in the league. There's no doubt

950
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Speaker 1: he should be, if not the highest paid defensive player

951
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Speaker 1: in all the league, top two, top three. So we'll

952
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Speaker 1: probably see that get fixed this offseason. But back to

953
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Speaker 1: the AFC, I mean, the NFC is right, You're right

954
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Speaker 1: with all those vets out of the league. The NFC's right.

955
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Speaker 1: But again, in the AFC, the Bengals beat the Chiefs twice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I know the Chiefs are a contender. I don't

957
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Speaker 1: necessarily like how the Bengals match up with the Bills

958
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Speaker 1: on paper. But I would have said the same thing

959
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Speaker 1: about how the Bengals match up with the Chiefs on paper,

960
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Speaker 1: and they beat them at home, and then they beat

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Speaker 1: them at their home. So they've won one on both sides,

962
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Speaker 1: and I think the Bengals are going to be here

963
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: to stay. How painful was it for you to watch

964
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Speaker 1: the ending last night? You know, I'm so happy for Stafford.

965
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Speaker 1: It wasn't that painful. I really want to I really

966
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Speaker 1: wanted to see a victory paid in downtown Cincinnati would

967
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: have been amazing. I think we will. I mean, Joe

968
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: Burrow is that good? You know, Jamar Chase is that good?

969
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: If they can keep these guys together, figure out a

970
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: way to resign t Higgins, keep you know, Joe Mixon happy.

971
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Speaker 1: They've got the big three with really a fourth and

972
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Speaker 1: te Higgins, so the infrastructure is there. They've got to

973
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Speaker 1: address the offensive line, the defensive line. I mean, how

974
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Speaker 1: stigy was that defensive line of the Bengals last night.

975
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Speaker 1: It's like every time they handed the ball off to

976
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: the Rams running back, he ran into a brick wall. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the pieces are there. They've got the right formula.

978
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: They've got the right guys. Again, They've got a rookie

979
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Speaker 1: contract at quarterback that they that's playing with house money

980
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: right there. When you're when you're paying your starting quarterback

981
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: who's probably the best player on the field, a rookie

982
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: minimum deal, that is playing with house money. So they've

983
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: got the right infrastructure, the right pieces around it. They

984
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: just got to attack this offseason. Put us in Stafford

985
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: shoes of you know, your receiver is going to be

986
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: double team that final drive with Cooper Cup. But can

987
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: you still throw somebody open when they're going to be

988
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: double covered? Obviously you can. I mean Cooper Cups. You know,

989
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: you think back to the greatest receivers in history and

990
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: you think of Larry Fitzgerald and Megatron and the size

991
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: and the folk or the speed of some of these guys,

992
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, you don't quite trust that Cooper Cup

993
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: is that good. But when you see Sean McVay hand

994
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: him the ball as a running back on the play

995
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: of the game on fourth and one, and just know

996
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: that he's got two guys he's got to beat and

997
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: trust that he's gonna beat him, the guy is that good.

998
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: It's not flashy, it's not sexy. It doesn't blow you

999
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: away like some of the stuff Jamar Chase does, some

1000
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: of the catches that Odell Beckham Junior has made over

1001
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: his career. It's not that flash. He's just so consistent

1002
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: and so dominant that when the game's on the line.

1003
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Speaker 1: Stafford's been around long enough, He's been in those drives

1004
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: many of times. He knows that when you're down, whether

1005
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: it's the Super Bowl or regular season game, you've got

1006
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: to get the ball and your best You gotta get

1007
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: it to your best player without a doubt, no matter what.

1008
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes he may be triple covered, he can still find

1009
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: a way to get open. He was getting open against

1010
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: double coverage. And that's why he's so special. Okay, you

1011
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: get down on the goal line and you see Eli

1012
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: Apples single covering Cooper Cup. I mean, come on, I

1013
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: mean that's how do you get to the point where

1014
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: you have single coverage on Cooper Cup at the goal line. Well,

1015
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: especially the way that the defensive front for the Bengals

1016
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: was stopping the run with four man pressures. Their four

1017
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: defensive linemen owned the line of scrimmage. They owned the

1018
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: Rams offensive line, so they didn't need to load the

1019
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: box and bring nine guys into the box to stop

1020
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: the run. They were doing it with four guys all game.

1021
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: But again, if since he can go after you know,

1022
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson's a free agent, Xavier Rhode is a free agent,

1023
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: there's some guys. Hopefully they get Trey Wayne's back in

1024
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: the starting lineup and he can be the player that

1025
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals anticipated him being when they gave him that contract.

1026
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: There's just a couple pieces away where you get Patrick

1027
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: Peterson out there on Cooper Cup. That's a pretty good matchup.

1028
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: So there's a couple pieces away, and they just didn't

1029
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: need to leave Eli Apple one on one with Triple crowwinner.

1030
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: That turf at the stadium with what happened Odell Beckham Junior.

1031
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: Is that turf related or OBJ related? It sure didn't

1032
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: look to related. I mean, it's hard to say that

1033
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Speaker 1: right now, the day after the game. That's just one

1034
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Speaker 1: of those acls. I hope it's not torn. I hope

1035
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Speaker 1: it's just maybe a bone on bone collision that he

1036
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: felt in there, But it did not look like it

1037
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Speaker 1: was the turf. That turf's only a handful of years old.

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00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's holding up pretty good. That looked like Unfortunately,

1039
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: I've been there that looked like a knee that was

1040
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: reconstructed surgically a couple of years ago and then maybe

1041
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: gave out. That happened to me. That happens pretty easily,

1042
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: and when it does happen, it's very rarely a collision

1043
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: or a traumatic injury where somebody is crashing into you.

1044
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: A lot of times when you see that, it's just

1045
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: a guy planting or running or jumping. And that looked

1046
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: to be what it was with Obj yesterday. Well, he

1047
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: took first of all, the pass was behind him a

1048
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: little bit, and he took his eye off the ball

1049
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: because it was almost as if he had caught it.

1050
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 1: Now he was looking to see me, he was looking

1051
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: to get up a field quicker than he should have,

1052
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: and it just felt like it was just an awkward

1053
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: moment there. Those are the ones, Unfortunately, I hate to

1054
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: say it, I'm knocking on wood. Unfortunately, those are the

1055
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Speaker 1: ones that typically are an aco expiring, snapping, breaking, tearing,

1056
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Speaker 1: whatever it was. You hope, I mean he's a free

1057
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Speaker 1: agent as well, I believe, so, yeah, you hope it's

1058
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: not completely torn and he has to start over again

1059
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: and go through the whole rehab process. Hopefully it's a

1060
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: little bit of a tear and they could fix it

1061
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: or just clean it up and he'll be ready once

1062
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: training camp opens in August. And it felt like he

1063
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: was on his way too. If they were winning, he

1064
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: was going to be in the MVP conversation last night.

1065
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: He just felt like he got that touchdown, had a

1066
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: couple of big plays there, and then all of a sudden,

1067
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: had that injury. We've talked about Aaron Donald before and

1068
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: just how great he is, but you know, going up

1069
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: the middle against a quarterback, and a lot of quarterbacks

1070
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: have said on this show, you know they worry about

1071
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: the guy who's coming right at him, not necessarily the

1072
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: guy on the edge. What is it about Aaron Donald?

1073
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: You sort of know what you're getting, you just can't

1074
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: stop it. So what role do you play in trying

1075
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: to help your team as a quarterback where you got

1076
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: to run the ball, and they tried to run the

1077
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: ball and they did a good job. I mean, Joe

1078
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: Mixon had a phenomenal game, But at the end of

1079
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: the day, there is no recipe for Aaron Donald. I've

1080
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 1: seen great ones go up against him and double team

1081
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: him and He is that much quicker, that much more powerful.

1082
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: And what you don't realize about Aaron is how short

1083
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: he is. And all that does is people want to stay.

1084
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: I want the six five twenty pound guy, but I

1085
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: don't I want the five eleven, the guy that can

1086
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: get underneath your pads. Most offensive linemen are a little

1087
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: bit stiffer than defensive linemen and don't have that ability

1088
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: to get low and sink their hips. Well, Aaron doesn't

1089
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: have to sink his hips. He comes off the ball

1090
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: with so much power and leverage that I don't care

1091
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: if you've got Pro bowlers up front. It really doesn't

1092
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: matter if you're double team, if you're slide protecting and

1093
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: trying to wash him down. He finds a way. And

1094
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: they do such a good job by putting him every

1095
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: once in a while on the same side of the

1096
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: field with von Miller, putting him outside and looping him

1097
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: and running all kinds of games where he's not just

1098
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: bull rushing out the field, he's running around the offensive

1099
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: tackle and getting an edge. He's just that good. He's

1100
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: that dominant. And again, I don't think we see him retiring.

1101
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: I think he's posturing for a new contract. Which looks

1102
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: well deserved. We had Tony Bisselli on He's going into

1103
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and he said, you know, I

1104
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: hated playing against those shorter guys. They had leverage on me.

1105
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: And you know in Bisselli six seven and he said,

1106
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: you know that the guy who's six feet five to eleven,

1107
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: those are the guys I brought up John Randall, like

1108
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: these guys that are just they here they come. They're

1109
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: not tall, but they just had that leverage. Yeah, I

1110
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: mean Warren Sapp was the same. Warren Sapp wasn't six

1111
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: five three forty. He played with great leverage. He played

1112
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: with great power. Geno Atkins a great Bengal defensive tackle

1113
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: that didn't get the credit he deserved. He was a phenomenal,

1114
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: phenomenal player a lot. He was really built, very similar

1115
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: to Aaron Donald. Maybe didn't have quite the same power,

1116
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: but the same quickness. He was six foot maybe ending

1117
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: on a book, I mean maybe he was six one,

1118
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: but probably below six foot. But that leverage. It doesn't

1119
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: matter how long your tackle, your arms are at tackle

1120
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: or guard or center, if you can get underneath an

1121
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: offensive lineman's shoulder pads. And Aaron doesn't with one arm,

1122
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: So I mean you see him grabbing guys with one arm,

1123
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: put in somebody's chest and just deep on one them

1124
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: out of the way. So there's just a rare combination

1125
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: of speed and power that Aaron has that maybe we

1126
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: haven't seen since John Randall. Did you meet anybody interesting

1127
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? I didn't meet anybody out of the ordinary,

1128
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: but I was in and out as quick as possible.

1129
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: It was an honored to finally come and sit in

1130
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: your studio, your your makeshift studio. That was great there,

1131
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: but that traffic and just the chaos of the Super Bowl,

1132
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I was literally driving home thinking, I can't

1133
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: believe I lived here for four years in college, and

1134
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I'm out right now because I just

1135
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: I was going twelve miles at one point, and it

1136
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: took me an hour and forty five minutes to move

1137
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: twelve miles of the car I went from Marina del

1138
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: Rey to downtown. It took me ninety minutes, and it's

1139
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: twelve twelve and a half miles. Like I could gone

1140
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: to law school. I think if if I commuted in

1141
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, I probably could get a law degree in

1142
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: a you know, maybe a year's time of just sitting

1143
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: in traffic. Yeah, what's all this talk about work from home.

1144
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 1: Nobody's working from home. Everybody's on the on the damn

1145
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: highways and freeways, and you know, I expected to you know,

1146
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: it was crazy, though, is I did do a trip

1147
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: in the middle of in the middle of the quarantine,

1148
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: the fourteen day lockdown, and I drove from San Diego

1149
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: to Santa Barbara and I was going eighty miles an

1150
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: hour up the four oh five through Century City, past

1151
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: Griffiths Observatory around you know, you know, on highways and

1152
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: on parts of freeways that I'd never I'd never gone

1153
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: faster than ten miles an hour, and there was nobody

1154
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: on the roads. It was a really eerie ghost town field.

1155
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: We we had coach O on did he did he

1156
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: recruit you? He didn't recruit me, but he was. He

1157
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: was the defensive line coach at USC when I was there,

1158
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: and I was scared to death of the guy. All

1159
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: he talked about was sacking me. All he talked about was,

1160
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'd be March and we're you know, in

1161
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: the weight room working out, and all of a sudden

1162
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: I'd hear this noise behind me, and he'd come up, boy,

1163
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come and get you boy. And I turned

1164
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: around and coach oh and the team stop dripping sweat

1165
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: just got off the bench press talking about sacking me.

1166
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: So that that guy scared the hell of me. He

1167
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: said that he would bring recruits down to Manhattan Beach

1168
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: and then he would say, see that house, that's Kobe's.

1169
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: See that house that's Jen's hill. He goes, I didn't

1170
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: know if it was their houses, but I told that

1171
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: to the recruits. No chits, no chips. The stories I

1172
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: want from the stories I want from Edio was what

1173
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: was going on at LSU? How did he get how

1174
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: are some of those recruiting situations? But how did he

1175
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: get some of the talent? Dowt Americas? Nobody Batts and

1176
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: I what's going on in Baton Rouge? Everybody in Baton Rouge.

1177
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: As an LSU fan, you don't have to be as

1178
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: worried about all the little rules of the recruiting laws.

1179
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: So I want to know some of those LSU stories. Well,

1180
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: we brought up Texas A and m I go, you know,

1181
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher's all upset because his you know, guys aren't

1182
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: getting the credit for recruiting all these kids. And he

1183
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: started laughing because you know, I said, that's oil money there,

1184
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, get me come on, and now it's it's

1185
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: above board. You're laughing. I can give you whatever I

1186
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: want you like on the open market. What do you

1187
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: think you'd be worth coming out of high school? I

1188
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: don't even know what it is right now. At least

1189
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: a million? Yeah, who knows? At least a million. But

1190
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: he's the hands down, the best recruiting coordinator, the best

1191
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: recruiter I've been around. He's relentless. He's always watching film.

1192
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: He would pull up things on his laptop of some

1193
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: grainy video he had of some kid in South Florida

1194
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Coach, you can't even see this kid.

1195
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: And he's like, I know, but you know, he had

1196
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: all the stats, all the numbers. He knew them mom

1197
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: and dad, all right. He was relentless in his pursuit

1198
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: in recruiting. It was It was truly amazing. But he

1199
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: told us a story. He was trying to recruit Adrian

1200
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: Peterson to USC and Adrian's dad was in prison, is

1201
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: in prison in Oklahoma. He tried to get him transferred

1202
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: to a Los Angeles prison so he could watch his

1203
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: son play football. That was you know, that's why Adrian

1204
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: stayed at Oklahoma. And and you know, Coach Ogoes, I

1205
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: was competing. Got to compete, That's all I was trying

1206
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: to do. Compete. I can't imagine you go back to

1207
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: school and you go, um, hey, I got Adrian Peterson,

1208
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: but his dad's got to be transferred to La County jail.

1209
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: The strings that had to be, Paul, I'll tell you

1210
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: what happened with that, probably though it is. Adrian Peterson's

1211
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: dad was like, you want me, You're going to transfer

1212
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: me to La County. No, thank you all. Stay here.

1213
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: Things are a little more cushy maybe in Oklahoma than

1214
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: LA County prison. It was great seeing you, you and

1215
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: your son, and uh, thanks again, buddy, Thanks Dan, Thanks

1216
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

1217
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,919
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1218
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,040
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1219
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,800
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1220
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,160
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