Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broaden, Taylor Stern, and Rob Phillips, welcome
Speaker 1: everybody to Friday Show of Talking Cowboys. It's an exciting
Speaker 1: one today because we are that much closer to the
Speaker 1: cowboys first road game against the Broncos. Of course, always
Speaker 1: joined by Mickey, Rob, Brian, myself, and today we'll have
Speaker 1: a special guest very soon. Andrew Mason, the senior digital
Speaker 1: reporter for the Denver Broncos, will be joining us shortly.
Speaker 1: But prior to that. How come you guys don't have
Speaker 1: titles like that? I don't know. It's all different everywhere, Rob,
Speaker 1: senior writer. Are you senior digital reporter? Nope? Your senior writer? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you senior scout? I don't know what I am?
Speaker 1: But are you? I have? I am me? I have nothing?
Speaker 1: Senior digital reporter? Yeah? Veteran? What was but what was
Speaker 1: last week's your title? Schmelkes? He was digital produced He
Speaker 1: was general Senior General producer charge of NATO. I think
Speaker 1: we should have fun ones, Mickey, Yours would be like
Speaker 1: Captain you know, angry about Vice President Ellie get angry
Speaker 1: when it means to get angry. Yeah, that's like such
Speaker 1: a dad comment right there. I am saying I am
Speaker 1: the happiest guy around till you make me mad, saying that,
Speaker 1: which is a lot. Got that grump zillion, got it,
Speaker 1: got it, so many, so many drops already, Apney, But nicky,
Speaker 1: we'll get to a positive note. You brought something in
Speaker 1: here that made me happy? What what made you happy?
Speaker 1: I didn't bring roses or those are on my desk, right,
Speaker 1: I'm coming here, coming right, yeah, yeah, But you saw
Speaker 1: a guy out to practice real briefly, his name Terrence Williams.
Speaker 1: Came or running onto the scene during the stretching period
Speaker 1: and had his left ankle heavily tape. But he was running,
Speaker 1: which is much better than what he was doing on
Speaker 1: Monday when he was dragging that foot. And my understanding
Speaker 1: is that they're gonna list him as limited for today's
Speaker 1: practice and we'll see how much he does in that
Speaker 1: limited period. And I'm thinking, from what I've seen a
Speaker 1: little bit of him, I think he's got a chance. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know how well he would play if they
Speaker 1: want to just rest him, But I think he's got
Speaker 1: a chance. How about captain right answer, captain right answer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. How about captain good information right there?
Speaker 1: And then the other guy that ran off the field
Speaker 1: after stretching was Orlando Scandrick. But he was at least
Speaker 1: out there with a helmet and jersey on left hand,
Speaker 1: heavily taped. But I still don't think he's gonna make it.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones on the fan today said he would probably
Speaker 1: be a game time decision. So we'll see. We'll see
Speaker 1: final injury see if that thin air helps heal that incision.
Speaker 1: Final injury report comes out at three issues yesterday, I
Speaker 1: just don't. Yeah, let me make yo, let's make that
Speaker 1: predict out. Yeah out yesterday's injury report. Rob kind of
Speaker 1: scared a few people seeing Byron Jones' name on there.
Speaker 1: Jones was out at practice. Yep, he was limited yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I believe Jason said it looked like he would
Speaker 1: try to do something in practice, so that sounds good.
Speaker 1: That sounds good on a Friday that if he gets
Speaker 1: some participation, he'll be ready to go. It was doing
Speaker 1: all the early stuff that we were allowed to see,
Speaker 1: so that's a good sign. That he's out there, Avon
Speaker 1: Frazier if if trouble arises in the Mile High City
Speaker 1: or Xavier Woods, yeah, he's better prepared to play that
Speaker 1: free safety. Kind of kind of think about how we
Speaker 1: dressed it out last week and the part of that
Speaker 1: game though, if you remember how they were trying to
Speaker 1: play some things, well when the first I was just saying,
Speaker 1: the first safety that was on the field, Frazier came
Speaker 1: in right and Heath moved up right right, so Byron
Speaker 1: Jones was still still on the field. See that just
Speaker 1: tells me that if something were to happen to Byron Jones,
Speaker 1: you know that we then then you would get him.
Speaker 1: I think that Frasier would be your next guy. And
Speaker 1: then yeah, well if you don't want Woods, because Lewis
Speaker 1: rookies out there and him all in the field at
Speaker 1: the same time. Everyone throw them out there. Better about
Speaker 1: the depth at secondary than you thought you were. Sometimes
Speaker 1: they have those religions where baptism they throw them all
Speaker 1: in the lake at the same time. I feel good
Speaker 1: about their overall depth. But he does bring up a
Speaker 1: good point. I mean, the time on task, these guys
Speaker 1: just haven't had it, so I think, yeah, you would
Speaker 1: probably go with the veteran guy at least as the
Speaker 1: season goes on, though, I think things could change and
Speaker 1: strong opponents to start off with right away. That's kind
Speaker 1: of the scary thing there. But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: you know, you brought up a name the other day.
Speaker 1: You were talking about defensive ends for the Bronco crick
Speaker 1: They're a defensive end. We can probably ask Mason about this.
Speaker 1: He's out of there for this week, so they'll be
Speaker 1: kind of sounds like back surgery, back surgery. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: been having exactly right, he's they talked about spasms, you know,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden. I think he tried to
Speaker 1: practice the other day and it didn't work out too well.
Speaker 1: So i'd see my guy gots us. Yeah, played pretty
Speaker 1: well the other day. That was kind of a psychic
Speaker 1: prediction about that. Wow. You either that or I jin
Speaker 1: the crick guy. Yeah, Shane Ray, come back to please.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see you. Oh, Shane, just stay where
Speaker 1: you're at. Y you're at. But does that I mean,
Speaker 1: everyone knows von Miller is going to be just absolutely
Speaker 1: magnificent rob Yeah, but well that hurt him a little bit,
Speaker 1: kind of missing a guy maybe having to get back
Speaker 1: in step with a guy named gots Us in his line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they signed a guy, I don't want to get this
Speaker 1: pronunciation wrong, a Tiebeau Ruben, veteran guy with the Seahawks
Speaker 1: who started started a lot of games. He might get
Speaker 1: some playing time. But yeah, they've had some injuries on
Speaker 1: that D line, particularly in the middle of the line,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. I still think with with Vaughan though,
Speaker 1: you line him up on the edge and whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and look the Cowboys, We've talked about it. They'll
Speaker 1: probably try to give some help depending on which side
Speaker 1: he's on certain times throw some different looks. But he
Speaker 1: is the key matchup to me, easier if you have
Speaker 1: to just look at one side all the time, then
Speaker 1: have to really worry about both. Absolutely. Absolutely. We have
Speaker 1: a few moments until Andrew Mason, senior digital reporter from
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, will be joining us. But Rob, you
Speaker 1: kind of broke down some breaking news today of Zeke,
Speaker 1: and let's have a law report from We're gonna law
Speaker 1: student over here. I didn't bring my glasses, right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I've got it down. Okay, Okay, So as expected,
Speaker 1: no surprise The NFL has responded and has skilled Judge Zant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were to correct a ruling there. They've they've gone
Speaker 1: straight to the fifth fifth Circuit and New Orleans to
Speaker 1: get an emergency motion filed for a stay of the injunction,
Speaker 1: which means they're hoping they're asking for by September twenty six,
Speaker 1: Between the nineteenth and the twenty six, they'd like a
Speaker 1: ruling on that, so that could if it's granted, that
Speaker 1: would pave the way for Zeke to be you know, suspended,
Speaker 1: to serve that suspension after this game, depending on when
Speaker 1: it comes down or possibly week four. We'll have to see.
Speaker 1: But there's some people in the in the legal world
Speaker 1: that don't think that's going to happen. It's just all speculation.
Speaker 1: But again, that's that's where they are. They're trying to
Speaker 1: do what they can to get that injunction waived. Boy,
Speaker 1: it's it looks like a political campaign out there, with
Speaker 1: the NFL throwing their stuff against the wall, the nfl
Speaker 1: PA throwing their stuff against the wall. And I think
Speaker 1: the hard thing that's gonna be for the NFL well
Speaker 1: is to prove that if he doesn't start his suspension
Speaker 1: right now that they're going to suffer irreparable harm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no irreparable harm. If the suspension starts week three,
Speaker 1: week five, week eight next spring, there's no irreparable harm.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine they're going to be able to prove that.
Speaker 1: And I'm simplifying it because there's more to it than that.
Speaker 1: But that's one of the basis for a stay, would
Speaker 1: be proven that if he doesn't start his suspension, the
Speaker 1: league's gonna suffer irreparable Is this as simple as saying
Speaker 1: that Zeke, because he got granted the injunction, would serve
Speaker 1: more irreparable harm than the league itself because because he's
Speaker 1: off the fields games and that was where the ruling
Speaker 1: came down from the tests from Zant. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So now these other three judges get to decide on
Speaker 1: I if that is so or not. So it gives
Speaker 1: you tired head, but it goes on. It does. And
Speaker 1: you know, last week we discussed Zach Martin and this
Speaker 1: will tie into it, so just bear with me for
Speaker 1: a second. We talked about how Zach Martin was understanding
Speaker 1: of the fact that his contract extension negotiations have kind
Speaker 1: of been tabled at least for now, we don't know
Speaker 1: what will happen during the season agents that type of thing.
Speaker 1: But he said in his article, I think you wrote this, Rob,
Speaker 1: I could be corrected. He said, you know, he's just
Speaker 1: happy he has the chance now to completely focus on football.
Speaker 1: He did say that, and I thought that was an
Speaker 1: interesting thing. And how you tie it back to Zeke
Speaker 1: is you know, Mickey just said it. It goes on
Speaker 1: and to kind of say, okay, today, where am I
Speaker 1: at with this? Hey? Lawyer? Can you tell me what
Speaker 1: I need to be doing? Where do I need to
Speaker 1: be that? Football is obviously first and foremost. I don't
Speaker 1: ever want to question his priority of his job, but
Speaker 1: to have to continually think where am i? Am I
Speaker 1: going to be playing next week? Am I not? Who's
Speaker 1: after me? Now? Where am I with this? That's a
Speaker 1: lot for a twenty two year old to handle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's a lot for me or anybody in this room.
Speaker 1: It is and in your right today it's going to
Speaker 1: keep going on until they decide Okay, we're not going
Speaker 1: to stay this injunction. It's going to stay in place.
Speaker 1: There's not going to be an expedited appeal hearing there
Speaker 1: either one. So if that injunction stays in place and
Speaker 1: this hearing gets pushed out by months, then he's got
Speaker 1: some relief in his mind. Over. Yeah, I'm probably playing
Speaker 1: this whole season, but right now it's focus on today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right now, it's still up in the air. It's just
Speaker 1: a feel for situation for us. Every Friday it's it's
Speaker 1: new news. It seems like every day it seems like
Speaker 1: new news. It's just completely mind blowing. But really quickly
Speaker 1: before we get into Andrew Mason. I'm excited to have
Speaker 1: him on here. We'll get to one of Nikki's, Nicky's point,
Speaker 1: my points, one of your points. We've talked about high
Speaker 1: altitude here this week, and people are going to be
Speaker 1: looking at maybe a closer game than they think. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if the defense for the Broncos just shows up and
Speaker 1: hurts the Cowboys offense, it's going to be closer. So
Speaker 1: special teams will really matter in this game. And Mickey,
Speaker 1: you brought up a point of outstoot effects on Dan
Speaker 1: Bailey's range, so it should increase this range one of
Speaker 1: the benefits of high altitude. I mean, the Bronco kicker
Speaker 1: has the same deal. But if you figure that Bailey
Speaker 1: over his career has hit fifty seven field goals of
Speaker 1: fifty yards or more. Twenty seven field goals of fifty
Speaker 1: yards or more with a long of fifty six, I
Speaker 1: would think the altitude extends that by five to ten yards.
Speaker 1: So now if you get in a situation where you
Speaker 1: can try something safe from sixty five, then you say, yes,
Speaker 1: send them out there. But the deal is with those,
Speaker 1: and it depends how the game's going. Normally you don't
Speaker 1: try those end of the half or desperate at the
Speaker 1: end of the game because it's certainly in the middle
Speaker 1: of the second quarter. Aren't going to go say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go try a sixty five yard or and if
Speaker 1: I miss, I'm going to give them the ball at
Speaker 1: what the forty five yard line? Right? That ain't happening, no,
Speaker 1: I think there. But your point two is at the
Speaker 1: end of game game management, right, you know. Now, if
Speaker 1: this thing turns into a tough, tight game, you know,
Speaker 1: and absolutely the Cowboys are seventeen and seven on the
Speaker 1: road since I think twenty fourteen, if i'm if I'm
Speaker 1: right about that. So if you if you think about that,
Speaker 1: and they're they're and they're I want to say, they're
Speaker 1: eight and four in games decided by one score or less.
Speaker 1: So to me, if it turns into you get into
Speaker 1: a tough, tight game and all of a sudden you're
Speaker 1: out of timeouts, you mean you're work in these situations
Speaker 1: all week, out of timeouts, trying to move the ball,
Speaker 1: got to get the ball, wit it's gonna make a catch,
Speaker 1: gets out of bounce. Okay, now it's a sixty yard
Speaker 1: field goal. You know you to Mickey's point, you have
Speaker 1: to feel somewhat good about that. I mean not great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to win a game with maybe with
Speaker 1: a sixty yard field goal. But it's a little different
Speaker 1: than say if you're playing in Cleveland or Pittsburgh or
Speaker 1: one of those other New England and one of those
Speaker 1: other places where you're not going to get that carried
Speaker 1: because I mean, altitude might win you a game, believe
Speaker 1: it or not. Just on special teams. It changed how
Speaker 1: you call plays in general. I mean you go a
Speaker 1: little more conservative if you if you're driving in the
Speaker 1: in the drive stalls and you got a short yarded situation.
Speaker 1: But see what we saw it. But Denver blocked the
Speaker 1: field goal. Denver blocked the fuel goal to save the
Speaker 1: game the other day, so you have to be that's
Speaker 1: in your mind. But they also, you know, the Chargers
Speaker 1: made a fuel goal and then had the time out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This reminds me of the Thursday night football game that
Speaker 1: opened up the twenty sixteen season. Last year, Grant Graham Gano,
Speaker 1: a great kicker in the National Football League, missed a
Speaker 1: long field goal at the end of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately I think it was Brandon mcmaan as their
Speaker 1: kicker made it, right, he's used to practicing up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what what what he was explaining? You don't want
Speaker 1: to miss a field goal in the middle of the game, right,
Speaker 1: getting the ball at the fifty yards right. See that's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's I totally understand what you're saying there, because, like
Speaker 1: I say, it's you. It's one of those things that
Speaker 1: you might have to figure out how you want to
Speaker 1: manage if you're if you're say you're in the in
Speaker 1: the hurry up mode, no time outs, you gotta do
Speaker 1: whatever you have to do to win the game, tie
Speaker 1: the game, whatever. But if you're a situation where you're
Speaker 1: trying to milk clock and think about, okay, how close
Speaker 1: can I I mean, what can I keep running the
Speaker 1: ball here to keep you know, to have to throw
Speaker 1: a third down? No, I don't have to run it again,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the way that Jason Garrett, you know. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you guys an assignment, you know, because we do
Speaker 1: the pregame show here. Oh, we'll watch for you watch
Speaker 1: because please watch. Yeah, please watch when Dan Bailey goes
Speaker 1: out there and tell me which side of the field
Speaker 1: he's better kicking field goals into, because that might make
Speaker 1: a difference too, of which direction they want to play
Speaker 1: in the second half. Talking to him yesterday, he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll go out before the game, and part of it
Speaker 1: will be they always look right, what they're distance is distance,
Speaker 1: find that distance way each way. Well, this time it's
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, let's see how far. It's sort of
Speaker 1: like when those guys come to AT and T Stadium,
Speaker 1: the punters, and they all want to see if they
Speaker 1: can punt and hit the video board video which the
Speaker 1: guy last week Marquette whatever is the king is his name?
Speaker 1: Not last week, but the Raiders guy. Uh, he hit it.
Speaker 1: So I asked, I asked, Dan. I said, so, do
Speaker 1: you have a feel like you have you ever kicked
Speaker 1: an altitude? And he goes, not that I was aware of.
Speaker 1: He didn't sound like he'd ever kicked in Colorado. Um
Speaker 1: I think although No, he said he kicked in Boulder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that means he kicked. So he kicked an altitude.
Speaker 1: I said, well, that's us high. Yeah. They were playing
Speaker 1: Wyoming or those Yeah, yeah, and so but that'll be key,
Speaker 1: that's when they warm up. Just yeah, that's a distance.
Speaker 1: That's something that'll be a good pregame. Note which way
Speaker 1: he is going and how far the distance is. Well,
Speaker 1: we will bring that to you. And now we have
Speaker 1: our altitude expert, but more importantly the Broncos expert, Andrew Mason,
Speaker 1: Senior Digital Report for the Denver Broncos. You are joined
Speaker 1: Andrew by Mickey Spagnol and Rob Phillips and Brian brought us.
Speaker 1: We're very excited to have you on. So, how's everything
Speaker 1: going up there in a Denver going great? How are
Speaker 1: y'all doing great? Any snow in the mountains? If we
Speaker 1: could take an hour trip, you know, I think some
Speaker 1: of there's a couple of peaks up there. I saw
Speaker 1: some pictures where there's a little bit of snow on
Speaker 1: some of the peaks. But the big thing is if
Speaker 1: you get up about forty five minutes up from here,
Speaker 1: up towards about fair play places like that, the colors
Speaker 1: on the aspens are really popping through. But what a
Speaker 1: picture you've painted for us, and we're gonna get right
Speaker 1: into it. This is obviously a big game for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys coming up to Denver. They haven't won there since
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. Now, the first question that I think
Speaker 1: we're all wondering is how is this offensive line really
Speaker 1: built up in the off season. I know that was
Speaker 1: a big thing last year that Trevor Simeon was never
Speaker 1: really protected. But adding one of our guys, Ron Leary
Speaker 1: in the free agency, what do you think of it now? Well,
Speaker 1: they definitely love what Leary can bring. Certainly you saw
Speaker 1: that down there death. They liked the toughness and tenacity
Speaker 1: that he's brought the introg interior the line. Of course,
Speaker 1: right now he's in the post concussion protocol, so they're
Speaker 1: hoping he's a He's back. By Sunday, he was standing
Speaker 1: on the sideline, was wearing a helmet on Thursday, which
Speaker 1: is a a good sign for how he's coming through
Speaker 1: the post concussion protocol to this point. But the rest
Speaker 1: of the restaurants kind of kind of a work in progress.
Speaker 1: Aside from Matt Partis, who was a Pro Bowl selection
Speaker 1: last year's center. Uh, you know Garrett Bowls first round
Speaker 1: picket left tackle. Uh. You know, he's gonna come along
Speaker 1: and fits and starts. You know, they like the add
Speaker 1: to the nastiness that he's brought to. You know, had
Speaker 1: a had a rough preseason game against San Francisco, three
Speaker 1: holding penalties, but he's had some some flashes of brilliant
Speaker 1: Menelik Watson at right tackle, uh, allowed some sacks on
Speaker 1: Monday night. I think of they want to make sure,
Speaker 1: they want to get him up to speed. I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of what they're they're concerned about right now.
Speaker 1: But you know, the line, it's a little I think
Speaker 1: the thing you'd say is work in progress. Maybe they'll
Speaker 1: try to kind of chip, but to chip on the
Speaker 1: right side to help mintel a Watson out a little
Speaker 1: more week too. Andrew, you know much was made about
Speaker 1: the Broncos. You don't want to throw the football against
Speaker 1: the Broncos, but running the football seemed to be a
Speaker 1: good avenue of moving to football, made some offseason adjustments.
Speaker 1: Some guys actually bulked up, wait wise, So kind of
Speaker 1: talk about where the Broncos run defense is right now
Speaker 1: as you went through the preseason. Obviously you got San
Speaker 1: Diego in a passing situation, But where does the team
Speaker 1: feel like they are right now with their run game defense.
Speaker 1: They're pretty confident in where it stands. And the Chargers,
Speaker 1: you know, that was a run, that was a running
Speaker 1: game that that caused the Broncos some problems last year.
Speaker 1: You know, Melvin Gordon had one hundred yard game against them,
Speaker 1: against them, had and it was pretty consistent in both games,
Speaker 1: consistently productive. And uh yet after that, after that first run,
Speaker 1: a twenty one yard or yard run to start the game,
Speaker 1: the Broncos really clamped down. You mentioned now that the
Speaker 1: lineman got bigger, Derek Wolfe Adam Gotsis. Get that those
Speaker 1: guys add about fifteen to twenty pounds. Jared Crick now
Speaker 1: he's he's out for the season. He's out, he's out
Speaker 1: on injured reserve because he just underwent the back surgery.
Speaker 1: But he had added weight as well. But between wolf
Speaker 1: and Adam got to the second year guy. They're high
Speaker 1: on adding adding weight and then bringing in Domtotecco from Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: a big three, you know, three thirty five pound veteran
Speaker 1: nose tackle who is a kind of guy that can
Speaker 1: occupy two blockers and three the inside backers up to
Speaker 1: you know that they hope not have to take on
Speaker 1: guard guards as often as as they were last year.
Speaker 1: They feel like that can kind of help the rundee events.
Speaker 1: But the big thing is the big thing is it
Speaker 1: is upfront. I mean, last year, one reason why the
Speaker 1: Broncos you know, struggled again struggled against the run. They
Speaker 1: simply weren't making plays of the line of scrimmage so
Speaker 1: many times, you know, most of their you know, it's
Speaker 1: not they were allowing explosive runs twenty twenty five yards.
Speaker 1: It was repeated four and five yard gashings over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. Which is why the Broncos, you know,
Speaker 1: we're in the bottom five in the league and run defense.
Speaker 1: You go to Monday Night, they're they're getting a lot
Speaker 1: more stops at the line of scrimmage or you know,
Speaker 1: for one two yard games, and so they're getting the
Speaker 1: kind of stop but with what they're getting up front, bigger, stronger,
Speaker 1: you know, defensive linemen. They're able to get stops of
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage or within one or two yards,
Speaker 1: and so they're able to get to kind of stop
Speaker 1: that knock an offense off schedule and force and force
Speaker 1: to become one dimensional. So they're pretty happy with where
Speaker 1: the run defense was in week one. That being said,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys present a much bigger channels in week two.
Speaker 1: So with Jared crick out, who takes his plays and
Speaker 1: how do you think that guy moves in there and
Speaker 1: how well would he perform? Well, they started Shelby Harris
Speaker 1: in week one, and he's a guy he was with
Speaker 1: the Raiders, actually was cut four times by the Raiders.
Speaker 1: U Joe Woods, the defensive coordinator. He had worked on
Speaker 1: the Raiders' staff a few years ago and kind of
Speaker 1: brought him to the Broncos attention. He's he's been really
Speaker 1: the big find of camp for the Broncos this year.
Speaker 1: You know, impressed or impressed earlier in OTAs did now
Speaker 1: he did a good job getting his hands up, knocked
Speaker 1: down a lot of passes. So that really was the
Speaker 1: first way he started getting a lot of attentions, so
Speaker 1: you'll see a lot of Shelby Harris zach Kerr who
Speaker 1: didn't play in Week one. He was a free agent
Speaker 1: signee from Indianapolis and he had a knee bruise, but
Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be back in the lineup
Speaker 1: of week two. He's a three hundred and thirty pound guy,
Speaker 1: so he's a he's a bigger defensive end and you
Speaker 1: usually see will see him rotate in as well. And
Speaker 1: then Adam Gottis, who was their second round pick last year.
Speaker 1: You know, he had a frustrating rookie season for him
Speaker 1: coming off the torn acl his team year at George
Speaker 1: at Tech. He was not all the way back, but
Speaker 1: had five tackles Monday night. Most of them were were
Speaker 1: at or within one yard or the line of Scrimmish
Speaker 1: was doing it was. You know, he's a guy that
Speaker 1: added fifteen pounds of muscle in the offseason, much stronger
Speaker 1: at the point of attack than he was last year.
Speaker 1: Last year, Rul was really kind of getting pushed off
Speaker 1: the line way too often. This year much stouter, and
Speaker 1: I think those are the guys that are going to
Speaker 1: step up and you're going to see plenty of them,
Speaker 1: and of course Derek wolf is a is a guy
Speaker 1: that you're gonna see that You're gonna see a lot
Speaker 1: of He had an ankle injury throughout the preseason, but
Speaker 1: he recovered from that and he said in week one
Speaker 1: the only issue was it wasn't the ankle, it was Stammond.
Speaker 1: I guess, getting his conditioning back, getting his win back
Speaker 1: under him. All right, Andrew, will you just gave so
Speaker 1: much information. I know you have to run to go
Speaker 1: get your coach Vans Joseph and we will see you Sunday.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us today. My pleasure.
Speaker 1: Y'all get here and gore, thank you. Well, there you go.
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Speaker 1: We got in to a little bit of what the
Speaker 1: practice was doing, and then of course we got the
Speaker 1: great information from Andrew Mason. But it's time to realize
Speaker 1: that not all fifty three players can play on Sunday,
Speaker 1: even though you wish they could, especially when you're dealing
Speaker 1: with certain depth at certain positions. Now I want to
Speaker 1: ask you, guys, we did this last week. I went
Speaker 1: around and kind of gave you my guesses. How did
Speaker 1: we do last week? By the way, we did? I
Speaker 1: think we nailed it to knocked it out of mark.
Speaker 1: I think I think we hit it. I think the
Speaker 1: only question mark that we had, or at least I
Speaker 1: had written down on my notes, was really seventy nine
Speaker 1: or sixty four. Obviously, it ended up being sixty four.
Speaker 1: We understood that going sure, Okay, ready ready for this week?
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, I'm gonna stick with Darren McFadden. Banay've been Wickery,
Speaker 1: Orlando Scandrick obviously the new one there with the hand injury,
Speaker 1: fifty nine, Anthony Hitchens, and then Jonathan Cooper and Noah Brown. Okay,
Speaker 1: is there anyone there that you disagree with? I know
Speaker 1: that certain people might be looking at a Terrence Williams
Speaker 1: or maybe switching out Darren McFadden with Alfred Morris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: could you consider going heavier at receiver because of Terrence's status?
Speaker 1: Could you keep Noah Brown active instead or along with him?
Speaker 1: But then you'd have to go light. You know, you
Speaker 1: don't want to go light on the defensive line. You
Speaker 1: would take that would be when the linebackers would come off.
Speaker 1: Probably don't want to do that either really, or no,
Speaker 1: you can't take another running back off. Yeah, it only
Speaker 1: got six healthy lineback fullback. Fullback wasn't a huge factor
Speaker 1: in it the other day. But in this football game,
Speaker 1: you could have probably need to run. Yeah, probably need
Speaker 1: to move. You're gonna need to run, They're gonna need
Speaker 1: to move them heavyweights in the middle too. Exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I only I see what you're saying, Rob,
Speaker 1: But I think if they were to do that, they
Speaker 1: would just have to switch Charance Willy James and Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: They couldn't both be active. If he's a go, If
Speaker 1: they think Terence is a go, then he's a go.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm think. They've got to feel good about him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you nailed it. Is there any
Speaker 1: reason to think that they might switch, Darren McFadden offered Morris.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said the other day and the fan, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a close decision and it might be something
Speaker 1: where they alternate. Do you see the matchup being any different,
Speaker 1: Brian No. I feel like though that there. I feel
Speaker 1: like that they they want to talk about there's competition
Speaker 1: between the two, but I really don't think there is.
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, peck, Brian, I'm probably gonna
Speaker 1: be wrong about this later on, but you know, looking
Speaker 1: at it the way it is, I think it's still
Speaker 1: the same way, find a way to get to the line,
Speaker 1: get through the hole. I feel like the coaches they
Speaker 1: liked what he's able to bring. They like Morris's ability
Speaker 1: to take the ball in the slash a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, And I mean you get a defense that
Speaker 1: can tackle that. They've struggled against the run, you know.
Speaker 1: And Andrew said that though they've done a better job
Speaker 1: at least in the San Diego game of tackling up
Speaker 1: front and so, but I still think it's I like,
Speaker 1: exactly what you've done. I think that McFadden's the guy
Speaker 1: just because of the fact of this offensive line. They
Speaker 1: need to hit the whole quick, and they need to
Speaker 1: get through the whole quick, and they need to finish runs,
Speaker 1: and I think he can do that. Now. Question, is
Speaker 1: there any part of you that thinks they're keeping McFadden
Speaker 1: in his in their back pocket to keep them fresh
Speaker 1: in case Zeke is has to service? Very reasonable? I
Speaker 1: don't you know what that Yeah, I make that change things.
Speaker 1: If Zeke wasn't here, if Zeke, well, if Zeke wasn't here,
Speaker 1: then he would be you're saying he'd be the starter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I think that's it's a Grassy Knoll
Speaker 1: theory that going back to the Grassy Knoll being the
Speaker 1: Kennedy deal. I'm sorry I dated myself there, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I totally understand what you're saying, and I totally think
Speaker 1: it's the plan that if you want to keep a
Speaker 1: guy fresh and then spritting and we figure out this
Speaker 1: court thing and it doesn't work out in the cowboy's favor.
Speaker 1: Now you got a fresh back and you put him
Speaker 1: out there. And because didn't they do that, Well, he
Speaker 1: was in their back pockets sort of last year. He
Speaker 1: was ready, but on bad he was hurt though, you
Speaker 1: mean they well they had him on a reserve list
Speaker 1: for most of the season, but they put him on
Speaker 1: I R and then they just didn't activate him till
Speaker 1: what the last four games he was back in December. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was fresh. Yeah, So that's why that I don't
Speaker 1: I think it's a brilliant deduction on your part. I
Speaker 1: remember the injuries he's had. Sure, it's like what they
Speaker 1: should have done with the cornerback here, Mo Claiborne. You
Speaker 1: should have kept him in active for nine weeks and
Speaker 1: then put him out the second half of the season.
Speaker 1: You probably have. Yeah. By the same token, though, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you want to keep Morris fresh too? Like? I think
Speaker 1: it does come down to the two of them in
Speaker 1: some respect, because Rod Smith is active because of special teams.
Speaker 1: That's that is something he's earned. Yeah, no, one of
Speaker 1: those two guys. But maybe you look at Morris as
Speaker 1: your your prime backup guy, right like he you know,
Speaker 1: all he's gonna get is maybe four carries a game
Speaker 1: like that, I think you're McFadden well made. Where else
Speaker 1: does McFadden help you if he's yea, Switzer's doing it right.
Speaker 1: I kind of liked one of them, one of them
Speaker 1: I didn't like. I see a lot of touchbacks on Sunday.
Speaker 1: So your point as well made, Mickey. But then does
Speaker 1: that answer the question of if this whole situation has
Speaker 1: really become a distraction for this team because they have
Speaker 1: to now kind of do Granted they had good depth
Speaker 1: at running back, but they did it affect him in
Speaker 1: the first game. I don't think so. But she's just
Speaker 1: asking the question. I understand it. Yeah, I know. I'm
Speaker 1: just not a big person on I know, I know
Speaker 1: you're not, but you know, now it's showing that if
Speaker 1: that's the case. And I think that's a great point
Speaker 1: because of the fact that they kind of have to
Speaker 1: tailor certain things knowing that this is the sixteen week season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sixteen games. Well, well, I tell you what, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: know this if this thing goes full. If it goes
Speaker 1: full on where next week or whenever the league, whenever
Speaker 1: where we get the final rule, then then then if
Speaker 1: then if McFadden comes back, Mickey's theory is absolutely or
Speaker 1: I mean, like what if what if they would they
Speaker 1: find out he's playing the rest of the season, they
Speaker 1: change and then they say, you know what, Yeah, now
Speaker 1: now it's well, we've given Alfred a few games, let's
Speaker 1: give McFadden a few games, and then it becomes about ability.
Speaker 1: Then I just yeah, but I just go back to
Speaker 1: your point. You said, based on preseason work, you you
Speaker 1: would I win the nod. I would. They both ran
Speaker 1: well at times in preseason, but I think a body
Speaker 1: of work, you could say Morris was better. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to say distruction because I know Mickey, you
Speaker 1: know that's more of the fact, like they can't focus
Speaker 1: on football, and maybe it's more about managing your team, right,
Speaker 1: you know, because they've had to manage their team right
Speaker 1: now with Demontre Moore out for these first two games, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily think it's considered a distraction, But
Speaker 1: it's definitely a kink in the way that you're going
Speaker 1: to manage your team the rosters six rus. Just remember
Speaker 1: what was the rotation in preseason? Who went Firstcfadden died,
Speaker 1: Fadden did right, and who sat out on the practice
Speaker 1: when they sat out all the veteran guys mc McFadden, yeah,
Speaker 1: Morris practice, Yeah, whole body. No, I you're you're nicky,
Speaker 1: You're you're onto something. You're absolutely onto something, and I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's worth putting out there. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you did that because that's something that you know,
Speaker 1: this team thinks about. They do think about. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: if we're going to lose a guy, always say protecting themselves.
Speaker 1: They're protecting themselves right here. They get say they do
Speaker 1: put McFadden in there, but I think that Morris out
Speaker 1: played him the summer. I do that. That's me personally.
Speaker 1: We'll see how they how they played, and you know,
Speaker 1: Mickey could absolutely be right about how do you handle
Speaker 1: that as a player though, if they're like trying to
Speaker 1: kind of almost sugarcoat it, like, hey, you're not going
Speaker 1: to get an active game week check this week, because no,
Speaker 1: you'll always get it. They get us check. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you're right. It is tough. He's a veteran guy,
Speaker 1: sat out most of the last year. It is check.
Speaker 1: But there's difference between being active and inactive. Sure, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean this is a guy he carried the mail
Speaker 1: for them two years ago. It's got to be tough
Speaker 1: to say, can you keep sacreds? It's like, hey, Yaren,
Speaker 1: here's what we're doing. But don't say anything. Don't be upset.
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna have the nicest sweatsuit out there. You
Speaker 1: are gonna be just swaggy out Christine. Yes, but yeah,
Speaker 1: this is why. But we do have a caller all
Speaker 1: the way from Hawaii, Denny and Hello, Hello, how guys, Hello,
Speaker 1: see you guys. Uh see Brian, see you on November
Speaker 1: nineteen with Star Sports Stories. Thank you, thank you. Yea.
Speaker 1: I have a Smith and Smith question, but not the
Speaker 1: Smith brothers. Um you guys brought up Keith Smith earlier.
Speaker 1: I think with the three four defensive linement, I think
Speaker 1: you know how you say, he can really dig up
Speaker 1: those linebackers. Sure, and not only that, UM mean a
Speaker 1: leage boker. But I like the way he receives the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, in the screen passes and those swing passes.
Speaker 1: I think he does a great job with that, and
Speaker 1: I think I would like to see more of that
Speaker 1: package for this game especially. And then um, but for
Speaker 1: Janen Smith, um, he looked good as a blitzer. And
Speaker 1: I don't think I saw where that he blitz at
Speaker 1: all in the last game. But do you see him
Speaker 1: do you see him utilizing him more and more? Um
Speaker 1: as a season? Goals aren't in this game. They still
Speaker 1: get that pressure up the middle with right with see
Speaker 1: in right And I'll hang up and listen to you guys,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Are you like Jalen Smith blitz
Speaker 1: in there? Mick? I do if if if they're going
Speaker 1: to play that, But yeah, it seemed like when they
Speaker 1: were going to go to their three four package that
Speaker 1: was going to be durant right, and they really didn't
Speaker 1: use it all that much. They placed basically played four
Speaker 1: man front with a dime package with short linebacker. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Jalen. I know you've always said
Speaker 1: you like especially while he's still recovering or getting strength
Speaker 1: in that foot going forward as opposed the backward. But
Speaker 1: I like the way he was moving. I liked his
Speaker 1: drops in the way he was turning and moving and
Speaker 1: planning in game the other night. He's shown progress there.
Speaker 1: He looked he really truly does look more and more
Speaker 1: comfortable movement out there than he has no he has.
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right about that, Rob, I mean
Speaker 1: that's to me, but Mickey's right too. I mean, could
Speaker 1: we you know with a with a rookie quarterback, and
Speaker 1: if you go back and look Simeon's one of those
Speaker 1: guys that he does take sacks, but he actually thrives
Speaker 1: when you pressure him. It's it's a strange dynamic with him.
Speaker 1: He's almost a ninety five percent rated passer when you
Speaker 1: pressure him, So he knows that's what I'm saying. He doesn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't take sex. I think in one hundred in
Speaker 1: his career, one hundred and thirty eight snaps or drop
Speaker 1: back attempts, he's only been sacked four times, so that
Speaker 1: when you blitz him, so that you have to be
Speaker 1: a little a little bit cautious about that. But in
Speaker 1: normal down to distances, he's like six percent of his
Speaker 1: times he gets sacked. He's one of the worst in
Speaker 1: the league when it comes to that. So maybe we're
Speaker 1: going to see more what Mickey's talking about. Three down lineman,
Speaker 1: clog and cover, try and make him make some accurate
Speaker 1: throws there. If you can maybe get some pressure, maybe
Speaker 1: if you bring the fourth rushure a is a slot
Speaker 1: or one of the linebackers. But I just kind of
Speaker 1: have a feeling though that they're not gonna blitz this
Speaker 1: guy as much. They're gonna make him have to make
Speaker 1: some throws. And we talked about what the problems are,
Speaker 1: Andrew even brought it up with the offensive line work
Speaker 1: in progress. He's being really nice saying that because their
Speaker 1: tackles have struggled, not to the Giants levels of struggle,
Speaker 1: but you have to say, okay, tank Lawrence, go beat,
Speaker 1: go beat Watson because he can do that. He has
Speaker 1: that capability and you know, we could see it in
Speaker 1: this game, and maybe it won't require them to blitz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you can just get home with four. I think
Speaker 1: that's what I think to me, that's the game plan
Speaker 1: if a guy. If a guy's proven to me he's
Speaker 1: got a short, you know, fifteen game career so far,
Speaker 1: but if he's showing to me that he can handle
Speaker 1: pressure and read, like you said, get rid of do
Speaker 1: all that and he's complete and passes. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: blitz him. I'm gonna make him have to make some throws.
Speaker 1: But if you telling me whoa he gets sacked on
Speaker 1: normal down and distance situations, that's kind of where I'm going. Hey,
Speaker 1: you just brought up a matchup that we haven't really
Speaker 1: thought about this this week, DeMarcus Lawrence and Watson. But
Speaker 1: are there other matchups that we're just not really even
Speaker 1: thinking about right now? You know? Is it the one
Speaker 1: the slot receiver versus the slot corner? Yeah? Who are
Speaker 1: we really looking at? Yeah? Robie and Beasley matchupy, really
Speaker 1: good matchup. Can Beasley win in space? Robi's a good player,
Speaker 1: He's a good space player for them, much like how
Speaker 1: Scandrick is when he's healthy here. So that's a matchup
Speaker 1: to watch for me. Yeah. Frederick at Pico mean again,
Speaker 1: you know, Andrew talked about that they get this big
Speaker 1: three and thirty pound, and last year Frederick was able
Speaker 1: to handle if we were doing our shows we were
Speaker 1: about to Cincinnati Bengals and game matchups and Pico and
Speaker 1: his ability to clog up the middle, big body doesn't
Speaker 1: get turned, you know. And and last year I felt
Speaker 1: like that Travis Frederick did a really nice job on him.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, him and Ron Learry and Martin were
Speaker 1: able to control that middle. I think they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do. That's something we're not really focusing on. But
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys, the way they run the ball, I
Speaker 1: think you got to find a way to get that
Speaker 1: noseman secured. And especially though if they're playing, if if
Speaker 1: we're get him in a nickel and they start spreading out.
Speaker 1: Now it's about getting those guys all taking care of
Speaker 1: and getting to the second level. That's where the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can have some success. A good thing. He got a
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty pounds center. Yeah, yeah, moving him,
Speaker 1: he's done a lot better remembering his first in his career,
Speaker 1: though he didn't handle the guy in his nose very well,
Speaker 1: right If you remember, like early in his rookie year,
Speaker 1: it was everything where it was athletic, moving was just fine.
Speaker 1: But when a guy was on his nose, that's when
Speaker 1: it was a problem. Now last week, the guy you
Speaker 1: know that snax wasn't on his nose. Snacks was like
Speaker 1: a man removed or in a gap. That's a little
Speaker 1: bit more of a difficult block and Denver will play
Speaker 1: a little bit more head up, true three four type
Speaker 1: of affront, so you have to be ready for it.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna have to get on that to
Speaker 1: get on Peco quick and then they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get him up to the set level, get that thing secured,
Speaker 1: and then allow twenty one to make those cuts. Mickey,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the matchup of a Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli versus Trevor Simeon. You know, I don't know that
Speaker 1: Rod does a lot of fancy you know things. I
Speaker 1: think they do what they do, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know that up that's his identity. Like these great schemes,
Speaker 1: the trick people I now, changing up the formations sometimes
Speaker 1: I think that can affect a young quarterback. But I
Speaker 1: just don't think he comes up with these exotic blitzes.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants a blitz. Well, when we talk about the
Speaker 1: three four with two linebackers, where the linebackers are coming
Speaker 1: in the gaps right, So it's not a matter of
Speaker 1: the guy knowing how to blitz, it's a matter of
Speaker 1: are they picking everybody up? Did they read it right?
Speaker 1: You know who's coming, because when you do it that
Speaker 1: you know you got three up there, but sometimes one
Speaker 1: guy falls off and two linebackers blitz. So it's more
Speaker 1: of a confusion thing than it is your ability to
Speaker 1: blitz and get through, because when you're blitzing through the gaps,
Speaker 1: they're they're they're shooting the gaps basically on each side
Speaker 1: of the center. Right. How much room is there? Right?
Speaker 1: You know, if those guys just kind of closed down
Speaker 1: in the middle, then maybe you freeze somebody on the outside.
Speaker 1: But I just don't see Rod doing a lot of
Speaker 1: fancy stuff. I think he gets guys ready to play,
Speaker 1: teaches them great technique, and you know, have at it.
Speaker 1: He relies really on their team speed defensively, and he
Speaker 1: watched the Giants game. The Cowboys got to a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of tackles with speed. Rally to the
Speaker 1: sound technique the tackle. Denver has trouble with defenses that
Speaker 1: can run. You know, if you're a defense that can run,
Speaker 1: they have problems with that. So that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: Cowboys calling card. Mickey's absolutely right. I don't think you're
Speaker 1: gonna see the exotics. You won't. That's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But what you're arguing to see is there, gonna try
Speaker 1: and be sound. They're not gonna allow the underneath stuff.
Speaker 1: They're gonna try and choke off the run the best
Speaker 1: they can get hats to the ball and tackle. That's
Speaker 1: the team. They don't give a big place. Neither one
Speaker 1: of these defenses give up big plays. That's that's going
Speaker 1: to be huge in this game. He's always tried to
Speaker 1: force the quarterback to drive the entire field. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you make a mistake for a young quarterback, that's what
Speaker 1: your hoping is going to happen eventually. If you got
Speaker 1: to put together ten twelve play drive, there's your altitude
Speaker 1: play too. You kick the ball in the end zone.
Speaker 1: I think something too. You need to think about here, guys.
Speaker 1: You gotta make this guy score along with you. I mean,
Speaker 1: make Trevor Simeon have to score along with shoot doubt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: may you turn it into a game where he has
Speaker 1: to make a bunch of plays. I'm willing to bet
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott will make more plays. So at that quarterback, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where and which team can make more plays and
Speaker 1: what team can force the other one to have to
Speaker 1: score around score right along with them? Yeah? All right,
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Speaker 1: guess what what? I got? A script? Do you do?
Speaker 1: You know why Papa John's pizza tastes so great? Why
Speaker 1: the ingredients like the veggies never frozen and the pepperoni,
Speaker 1: pork and beef? And tell you what what? There off
Speaker 1: the script? Now? If you order an extra large with
Speaker 1: two toppings. You get it for eleven dollars. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: a deal, and that's Papa John. You can't, you can't
Speaker 1: do it, that's can't Colby's special. Hey, we lead to
Speaker 1: Denver tomorrow and uh, Mickey, you're gonna be ordering some
Speaker 1: Papa John's tonight. Kind of get the packing ride and
Speaker 1: everything ready to go for you know, they have pretty
Speaker 1: good pizza in Denver. By the way. Oh, it's funny
Speaker 1: with the altitude and what if the ovens? Sure, I
Speaker 1: think it helps. Hey, when I was younger and I
Speaker 1: would bake brownies or do anything like that, it was
Speaker 1: always like my mom would make sure look at the
Speaker 1: high altitude instructions because mine always came out discuslay with
Speaker 1: high altitude tennis balls I did. I did tennis and
Speaker 1: tennis is something that Mickey and I have a common ground.
Speaker 1: You get this scheduled? Can we get this matchup film?
Speaker 1: I think Rob? I think Rob and I could take
Speaker 1: you two. No, yeah, it's not a hype thing, not
Speaker 1: even me not having played a match basketball. I think
Speaker 1: we'd be okay, Rob, We're fine. We could, like I understand,
Speaker 1: maybe a team sport, maybe football for sure. Flag football,
Speaker 1: no doubt, Tennis. Watch me. I'm a good player. I
Speaker 1: get up to that. Now. You could wait with nail
Speaker 1: Or from disc and Basketball, Chip, Chip and Chase all
Speaker 1: day for these two. You wouldn't get a shot off.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't get a shot would and frustrated after let's
Speaker 1: get back to fo Okay, you're not frustrated because drive
Speaker 1: right Hu hut damn Marino hard count on that Rob
Speaker 1: Before we get to your pool. We gotta call her
Speaker 1: Kenny and tennessee what is up? Hey? How's everybody doing? Kenny?
Speaker 1: Where are you been? I man, I've had a little
Speaker 1: bit of change in life and change jobs, and it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to get when it's live now, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we miss you. Well, I miss I missed calling in.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like watching it on the delay either.
Speaker 1: I like watching it live. But I just got two
Speaker 1: quick questions and I'll let you go. All right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is Zeke situation. First of all, I just think
Speaker 1: it's a conspiracy against Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But anyway, if it continues home and goes like towards
Speaker 1: the end of the season, is the league really that
Speaker 1: common and with suspending and the miss playoff games. Sure
Speaker 1: they would, yes, you know what, and it would depend
Speaker 1: on when the courts decide. Absolutely here in the case
Speaker 1: if it's x AD died, right, it could be heard
Speaker 1: later in the season, and then it just depends on
Speaker 1: what it's heard. Yeah right, absolutely, yeah, they certainly will.
Speaker 1: You know, in that case, I want to look at
Speaker 1: it like I might want to go ahead and get
Speaker 1: his old wids if it's bound behind us theory. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I got uh one more question because it really messed
Speaker 1: me up. Drafted my fantasy team because all I get
Speaker 1: to do is watch preseason games and stuff. Did Alfred
Speaker 1: Morris really out play McFadden Because when I got to
Speaker 1: seek in the draft and I drafted McFadden as the handcuff,
Speaker 1: and then when that game started us to day, it
Speaker 1: blew my mind. Alfred Morris was some second team I
Speaker 1: feel you. And uh so that add did Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: really out playing this year? He did. Brian thinks he
Speaker 1: did miss Kitty and Tennessee. Yeah he really did. Been
Speaker 1: like ten years. Yeah he did. He did outplay it.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. But to them, like Micky said, Mickey
Speaker 1: threw you a great nugget right there about that, and
Speaker 1: so I don't I like what he's saying. But if
Speaker 1: they the coaches feel like that, Nick Fadden, when this
Speaker 1: whole Zeke thing comes to light completely to the end,
Speaker 1: if they suspended Mickey's right, I wouldn't be surprised to
Speaker 1: see mcfaddenback as your starter. I hope Kenny's keeping his
Speaker 1: neighbors at Bay two, by the way, because they would
Speaker 1: give him trouble when the Cowboys lost. Yeah, Robert Poll
Speaker 1: and then to some rank up Okay pole today recap
Speaker 1: and we did a great job. I think, are recapping
Speaker 1: all these matchups throughout the week. We're gonna ask the
Speaker 1: fans what's the key matchups Sunday at Denver? Okay? Number
Speaker 1: one does Bryant versus a keep to Leib Two Nolan
Speaker 1: Carroll against Damarus Thomas. Three, the Cowboys offensive tackles against
Speaker 1: mister Miller von Miller, And fourth Zeke against the Broncos
Speaker 1: front seven. How will the running game fairs or four
Speaker 1: good ones? Yeah? What do you guys think? How I
Speaker 1: think they voted or how did we Who would you
Speaker 1: say I would take for? What do they say or
Speaker 1: what do I say? Your pick? I'll take or number three.
Speaker 1: Okay von Miller, Okay, von Miller. That's an easy one.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll say Zeke's a good one. Ryan, give
Speaker 1: me the front seven seven. Zeke. Yeah, go load the
Speaker 1: wagon and go, you guys, load the wagon. You guys
Speaker 1: are on the money. Those are the top two answers.
Speaker 1: Door number number one was door number four, Zeke against
Speaker 1: the Broncos front seven, followed by the Cowboys tackles against
Speaker 1: von Miller. Your choice, Micky of the vote there. Well,
Speaker 1: if the tackles don't play, then Zeke doesn't play. No,
Speaker 1: that's true. But I think that you cannot allow von Miller.
Speaker 1: That would be captain obvious here. Don't let him wreck
Speaker 1: your game, right, you know, don't let it be second
Speaker 1: and nine. Say, this is where the Broncos thrive. They
Speaker 1: thrive in making you when you have to throw the football,
Speaker 1: they love it. That's how they they you know, and
Speaker 1: you know Brad Allen is the official in this game.
Speaker 1: Brad Allen had the Philadelphia Washington game last week. Brad
Speaker 1: Allen's crew only called one defensive holding penalty. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be a key, and this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: key if they and I have a feeling that Brad
Speaker 1: Allen's crew is going to let this defense play, you know,
Speaker 1: so Cowboy receivers had better be ready for a clutch
Speaker 1: grab hold game. Yeah. I just feel like it's that's
Speaker 1: what's going to be. I don't like to compare this
Speaker 1: team to the twenty sixteen team. Obviously there's a lot
Speaker 1: of returning guys and their identity is pretty much the same.
Speaker 1: But last year brand we were on Cowboys break, we
Speaker 1: weren't with these lovely gentlemen here. But I felt like
Speaker 1: you would tell me a guy like von Miller, right,
Speaker 1: they watch about an example in my mind is Vontes perfect, right,
Speaker 1: And this team really found a way, whether it was
Speaker 1: just in you know, the way they played and changed
Speaker 1: it up in the game, but they found a way
Speaker 1: to really not make block him yet to block them
Speaker 1: and to make them not the big factors in this game,
Speaker 1: you know. And we're talking about Damarius Thomas yesterday. I
Speaker 1: feel like Rod Marinelli knows how to kind of take
Speaker 1: down these big time receive Alshan Jeffrey aj Green, the
Speaker 1: ones that he's faced in the past couple of seasons here,
Speaker 1: they really haven't Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why
Speaker 1: that is. He wasn't calling the place when Johnson tore
Speaker 1: him up Calvin john Troit No, Yeah, was that was that?
Speaker 1: That was? I think that was that Rob was that two? Oh?
Speaker 1: That was Marion Ellie's first year here? So which was here?
Speaker 1: He just wasn't charging to your point on my shoulder
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, Yeah, that's right for von von Miller matchup.
Speaker 1: This is what Loo Collins has been working for for
Speaker 1: four months. I mean, this is what he's been taking
Speaker 1: all the reps for back in OTAs he's gotten He's
Speaker 1: watched cut ups of every guy he's gonna face, and
Speaker 1: I would imagine that includes von Miller. It was Jpp.
Speaker 1: They ever faced each other in college. Vaughan against Elia
Speaker 1: was a SEC or Vaughn was in the SEC. He
Speaker 1: was out, I don't think so he was out in
Speaker 1: the first ten, the seventh. He's in his seventh year. Solf.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think because sometimes you see SEC
Speaker 1: matchup guys and you forget that Texas A and m was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he might have been a freshman Bonds last year. I
Speaker 1: have to go back and look, but I mean, this
Speaker 1: is this is what he's prepared for all year long.
Speaker 1: So look these guys, the Petco guys three thirty three,
Speaker 1: twenty five, Ker three thirty five, Wolf is two eighty five.
Speaker 1: Well he's bigger than that, now they might so it's
Speaker 1: probably three hundred. So with those big old guys in
Speaker 1: the middle, just make them go laterally, you know what.
Speaker 1: The altitude bothers them too, by the way, So you
Speaker 1: get them running laterally, you'll run talk here, yeah, talk
Speaker 1: talking at altitudes like water. It sees it sees no
Speaker 1: difference in any right. Everybody's don't use to use to excuse.
Speaker 1: Manuaco tried to do that and it's like, did you
Speaker 1: guys win that game out there? No? They lost. I'll
Speaker 1: see you, you know. I think you're on to something though,
Speaker 1: to take Yeah, every time we want to talk about
Speaker 1: a matchup that maybe the game hinges and I like
Speaker 1: the fact that you win on is there a secondary matchup?
Speaker 1: We're not. I don't think we all went into and
Speaker 1: we're gonna do rank them here, I'm sure before we
Speaker 1: get out of here. But we none of us really
Speaker 1: thought about DeMarcus Lawrence and the impact that he had.
Speaker 1: He would have, you know, it's somebody like that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be somebody in this game when you've got it,
Speaker 1: when you've got a matchup with with both sides, having
Speaker 1: star players on both sides, and you always kind of
Speaker 1: think of the star players. It's always good to kind
Speaker 1: of think of that that X factor guy that I
Speaker 1: got one might be the difference maker. You got one?
Speaker 1: You want to lead us off rank? Oh, or do
Speaker 1: it right now and rank them four minutes, Tyrone Crawford.
Speaker 1: I like it. I think Tyro and Crawford will be
Speaker 1: like heydla, let me have a few I mean a
Speaker 1: few rushes or a few sacks. Sacks. Oh, there we go.
Speaker 1: It's get a little better a week later from the ankle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll be. He'll be the guy that you're like, I
Speaker 1: forgot you were on this team. Yeah, how are you there?
Speaker 1: It is there, it is, Mick, you got one. I'm
Speaker 1: still thinking, still brewing Anthony Brown, Anthony Brown, good Way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, I think is you know rank he's gonna
Speaker 1: he was outstanding. I thought last week playing I didn't
Speaker 1: pick him already, seems like an obvious choice. Okay, then
Speaker 1: I would go I'll go for another one. There, I'll
Speaker 1: go out. I'll go good if you want to. If
Speaker 1: you want an X factor player, maybe a Woozier. You know,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have to step up in the secondary. It's
Speaker 1: gonna coming, Yeah, somebody's somebody's gonna have to pick off
Speaker 1: a ball, somebody's gonna have to make a tip play.
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna have to turn this game. It's gonna come
Speaker 1: down to possessions and how you do in your possessions.
Speaker 1: If you could deny the Broncos possessions, if you could
Speaker 1: deny their court breaks, if you deny, send me in
Speaker 1: the ability to throw the football and make him have
Speaker 1: to make some tough throats. It's gonna have to come
Speaker 1: on some of those guys. Brown, a Woozier, you know,
Speaker 1: Nolan Carroll, he might Nolan Carroll might be an X factor.
Speaker 1: He was kind of just just did his job last week,
Speaker 1: but he might have to be a big or X
Speaker 1: factor player this week. May say every one of your players, Mickey,
Speaker 1: I am going with the champ. Who's that Marcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: got the belt? Yeah he does. He does have the belt,
Speaker 1: which a matter of factly, when he showed up for
Speaker 1: his interview with us for the Jason Garrett Show. He
Speaker 1: brought his championship WBC belt with him. We were looking
Speaker 1: over his shoulder. What was we get a belt? Marinelli's belt.
Speaker 1: The commissioner of the WBC showed up at training camp. Oh,
Speaker 1: I see everyone. He gave him a belt. Oh wow.
Speaker 1: And so now the defensive line votes give it a
Speaker 1: player of the game and whoever has the belt, I mean,
Speaker 1: whoever wins, it's the belt for the week. Great idea.
Speaker 1: So he came with draped over his shoulder and the
Speaker 1: other guys were yelling at him, and he goes, I
Speaker 1: ain't giving it up. I'm the champ. That means if
Speaker 1: he wins again, I'll tell you what. Though, him against Watson,
Speaker 1: I like that. I like the matchup. You said pick him,
Speaker 1: You didn't say pick somebody obscurc it right. I mean
Speaker 1: we could we could Joe Zeke Dak, We could do that.
Speaker 1: We could know we could switch this and make this
Speaker 1: more of than X factor type who won last week?
Speaker 1: I got co belts, They got co belts. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just because he made a job, they made
Speaker 1: a T shirt. Did you get a T shirt from that? No?
Speaker 1: But I'm in buy one for Mickey, dude, perfect catch.
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the show, it's gonna
Speaker 1: say wardrobe provided by Taylor Stern for Mickey, that's all right.
Speaker 1: For Captain Angry Pan, we'll just pass it around. We'll
Speaker 1: pass the shirt Aptain Angry. Interesting there, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: Stephen Paia. Can they shut down the game? C J
Speaker 1: Anderson kind of between the tackles? Guy, how does their
Speaker 1: nose tackle fair in the game? I like it. Rob,
Speaker 1: We'll see. Well. Here we are, end of the week.
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