WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: What To Expect vs. The Broncos 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:08.600 This he is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:18.439 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys asy No. Your hosts, 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:24.880 Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broaden, Taylor Stern, and Rob Phillips, welcome 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:29.760 everybody to Friday Show of Talking Cowboys. It's an exciting 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.440 one today because we are that much closer to the 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.920 cowboys first road game against the Broncos. Of course, always 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.239 joined by Mickey, Rob, Brian, myself, and today we'll have 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:44.080 a special guest very soon. Andrew Mason, the senior digital 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.320 reporter for the Denver Broncos, will be joining us shortly. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.519 But prior to that. How come you guys don't have 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:54.160 titles like that? I don't know. It's all different everywhere, Rob, 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:58.959 senior writer. Are you senior digital reporter? Nope? Your senior writer? Yeah? 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.080 Are you senior scout? I don't know what I am? 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.080 But are you? I have? I am me? I have nothing? 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:09.120 Senior digital reporter? Yeah? Veteran? What was but what was 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.319 last week's your title? Schmelkes? He was digital produced He 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:17.959 was general Senior General producer charge of NATO. I think 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.080 we should have fun ones, Mickey, Yours would be like 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:27.319 Captain you know, angry about Vice President Ellie get angry 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:31.280 when it means to get angry. Yeah, that's like such 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.800 a dad comment right there. I am saying I am 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.680 the happiest guy around till you make me mad, saying that, 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.960 which is a lot. Got that grump zillion, got it, 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:45.440 got it, so many, so many drops already, Apney, But nicky, 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.880 we'll get to a positive note. You brought something in 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.800 here that made me happy? What what made you happy? 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.600 I didn't bring roses or those are on my desk, right, 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.080 I'm coming here, coming right, yeah, yeah, But you saw 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:04.360 a guy out to practice real briefly, his name Terrence Williams. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.400 Came or running onto the scene during the stretching period 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.560 and had his left ankle heavily tape. But he was running, 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.800 which is much better than what he was doing on 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:20.560 Monday when he was dragging that foot. And my understanding 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.119 is that they're gonna list him as limited for today's 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.200 practice and we'll see how much he does in that 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:33.160 limited period. And I'm thinking, from what I've seen a 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.919 little bit of him, I think he's got a chance. Now, 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.880 I don't know how well he would play if they 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.320 want to just rest him, But I think he's got 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:45.040 a chance. How about captain right answer, captain right answer? Yeah, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.720 I like that. How about captain good information right there? 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.360 And then the other guy that ran off the field 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.440 after stretching was Orlando Scandrick. But he was at least 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:58.320 out there with a helmet and jersey on left hand, 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.880 heavily taped. But I still don't think he's gonna make it. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.320 Jerry Jones on the fan today said he would probably 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.359 be a game time decision. So we'll see. We'll see 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:13.080 final injury see if that thin air helps heal that incision. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.680 Final injury report comes out at three issues yesterday, I 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.480 just don't. Yeah, let me make yo, let's make that 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.160 predict out. Yeah out yesterday's injury report. Rob kind of 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.000 scared a few people seeing Byron Jones' name on there. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.480 Jones was out at practice. Yep, he was limited yesterday, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.720 and I believe Jason said it looked like he would 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.760 try to do something in practice, so that sounds good. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.080 That sounds good on a Friday that if he gets 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.440 some participation, he'll be ready to go. It was doing 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.040 all the early stuff that we were allowed to see, 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.200 so that's a good sign. That he's out there, Avon 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.040 Frazier if if trouble arises in the Mile High City 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:55.560 or Xavier Woods, yeah, he's better prepared to play that 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:57.960 free safety. Kind of kind of think about how we 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.600 dressed it out last week and the part of that 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.640 game though, if you remember how they were trying to 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.640 play some things, well when the first I was just saying, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.280 the first safety that was on the field, Frazier came 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:12.400 in right and Heath moved up right right, so Byron 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.800 Jones was still still on the field. See that just 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:19.480 tells me that if something were to happen to Byron Jones, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.560 you know that we then then you would get him. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.640 I think that Frasier would be your next guy. And 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:31.240 then yeah, well if you don't want Woods, because Lewis 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.720 rookies out there and him all in the field at 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.440 the same time. Everyone throw them out there. Better about 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.320 the depth at secondary than you thought you were. Sometimes 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.240 they have those religions where baptism they throw them all 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.120 in the lake at the same time. I feel good 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.480 about their overall depth. But he does bring up a 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.080 good point. I mean, the time on task, these guys 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.200 just haven't had it, so I think, yeah, you would 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.039 probably go with the veteran guy at least as the 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.479 season goes on, though, I think things could change and 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.640 strong opponents to start off with right away. That's kind 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.960 of the scary thing there. But on the other hand, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.440 you know, you brought up a name the other day. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.839 You were talking about defensive ends for the Bronco crick 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.840 They're a defensive end. We can probably ask Mason about this. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.640 He's out of there for this week, so they'll be 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.640 kind of sounds like back surgery, back surgery. Yeah, he's 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:21.480 been having exactly right, he's they talked about spasms, you know, 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.200 and all of a sudden. I think he tried to 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.599 practice the other day and it didn't work out too well. 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.280 So i'd see my guy gots us. Yeah, played pretty 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.400 well the other day. That was kind of a psychic 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:36.040 prediction about that. Wow. You either that or I jin 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.240 the crick guy. Yeah, Shane Ray, come back to please. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.920 I'd love to see you. Oh, Shane, just stay where 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.880 you're at. Y you're at. But does that I mean, 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.240 everyone knows von Miller is going to be just absolutely 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:53.599 magnificent rob Yeah, but well that hurt him a little bit, 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.560 kind of missing a guy maybe having to get back 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.480 in step with a guy named gots Us in his line. Yeah, 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.120 they signed a guy, I don't want to get this 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.040 pronunciation wrong, a Tiebeau Ruben, veteran guy with the Seahawks 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.320 who started started a lot of games. He might get 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.240 some playing time. But yeah, they've had some injuries on 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.559 that D line, particularly in the middle of the line, 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.640 so we'll see. I still think with with Vaughan though, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.279 you line him up on the edge and whatever. Yeah, 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.560 and and look the Cowboys, We've talked about it. They'll 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.560 probably try to give some help depending on which side 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.800 he's on certain times throw some different looks. But he 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.200 is the key matchup to me, easier if you have 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.560 to just look at one side all the time, then 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.359 have to really worry about both. Absolutely. Absolutely. We have 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.400 a few moments until Andrew Mason, senior digital reporter from 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.880 the Denver Broncos, will be joining us. But Rob, you 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.960 kind of broke down some breaking news today of Zeke, 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.720 and let's have a law report from We're gonna law 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.640 student over here. I didn't bring my glasses, right, Oh yeah, 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.479 I think I've got it down. Okay, Okay, So as expected, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:07:03.240 no surprise The NFL has responded and has skilled Judge Zant. Yeah, 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.160 they were to correct a ruling there. They've they've gone 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.560 straight to the fifth fifth Circuit and New Orleans to 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.240 get an emergency motion filed for a stay of the injunction, 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.520 which means they're hoping they're asking for by September twenty six, 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.000 Between the nineteenth and the twenty six, they'd like a 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.600 ruling on that, so that could if it's granted, that 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.800 would pave the way for Zeke to be you know, suspended, 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.040 to serve that suspension after this game, depending on when 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.280 it comes down or possibly week four. We'll have to see. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.720 But there's some people in the in the legal world 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.120 that don't think that's going to happen. It's just all speculation. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.560 But again, that's that's where they are. They're trying to 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.280 do what they can to get that injunction waived. Boy, 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.840 it's it looks like a political campaign out there, with 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:53.200 the NFL throwing their stuff against the wall, the nfl 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.440 PA throwing their stuff against the wall. And I think 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:00.160 the hard thing that's gonna be for the NFL well 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.480 is to prove that if he doesn't start his suspension 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:09.080 right now that they're going to suffer irreparable harm. Yeah, 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.840 there's no irreparable harm. If the suspension starts week three, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:19.119 week five, week eight next spring, there's no irreparable harm. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.880 I can't imagine they're going to be able to prove that. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.960 And I'm simplifying it because there's more to it than that. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.560 But that's one of the basis for a stay, would 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.480 be proven that if he doesn't start his suspension, the 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.440 league's gonna suffer irreparable Is this as simple as saying 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.920 that Zeke, because he got granted the injunction, would serve 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:43.439 more irreparable harm than the league itself because because he's 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:47.240 off the fields games and that was where the ruling 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.200 came down from the tests from Zant. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.840 So now these other three judges get to decide on 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.440 I if that is so or not. So it gives 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.640 you tired head, but it goes on. It does. And 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.320 you know, last week we discussed Zach Martin and this 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.280 will tie into it, so just bear with me for 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.560 a second. We talked about how Zach Martin was understanding 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.439 of the fact that his contract extension negotiations have kind 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.960 of been tabled at least for now, we don't know 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.480 what will happen during the season agents that type of thing. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.440 But he said in his article, I think you wrote this, Rob, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.880 I could be corrected. He said, you know, he's just 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.120 happy he has the chance now to completely focus on football. 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:27.920 He did say that, and I thought that was an 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.040 interesting thing. And how you tie it back to Zeke 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.440 is you know, Mickey just said it. It goes on 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.200 and to kind of say, okay, today, where am I 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.640 at with this? Hey? Lawyer? Can you tell me what 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.360 I need to be doing? Where do I need to 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.960 be that? Football is obviously first and foremost. I don't 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.200 ever want to question his priority of his job, but 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.080 to have to continually think where am i? Am I 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.480 going to be playing next week? Am I not? Who's 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.480 after me? Now? Where am I with this? That's a 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.080 lot for a twenty two year old to handle. Yeah, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.480 and that's a lot for me or anybody in this room. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.280 It is and in your right today it's going to 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.320 keep going on until they decide Okay, we're not going 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.360 to stay this injunction. It's going to stay in place. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.800 There's not going to be an expedited appeal hearing there 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.559 either one. So if that injunction stays in place and 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:17.160 this hearing gets pushed out by months, then he's got 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.559 some relief in his mind. Over. Yeah, I'm probably playing 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.800 this whole season, but right now it's focus on today. Yeah, 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:23.960 right now, it's still up in the air. It's just 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.880 a feel for situation for us. Every Friday it's it's 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.000 new news. It seems like every day it seems like 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.960 new news. It's just completely mind blowing. But really quickly 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.160 before we get into Andrew Mason. I'm excited to have 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.360 him on here. We'll get to one of Nikki's, Nicky's point, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.319 my points, one of your points. We've talked about high 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.240 altitude here this week, and people are going to be 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.720 looking at maybe a closer game than they think. Obviously, 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.320 if the defense for the Broncos just shows up and 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.439 hurts the Cowboys offense, it's going to be closer. So 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.160 special teams will really matter in this game. And Mickey, 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.400 you brought up a point of outstoot effects on Dan 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.719 Bailey's range, so it should increase this range one of 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:10.920 the benefits of high altitude. I mean, the Bronco kicker 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:15.319 has the same deal. But if you figure that Bailey 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:20.040 over his career has hit fifty seven field goals of 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:24.200 fifty yards or more. Twenty seven field goals of fifty 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.040 yards or more with a long of fifty six, I 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.400 would think the altitude extends that by five to ten yards. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.160 So now if you get in a situation where you 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:40.320 can try something safe from sixty five, then you say, yes, 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.040 send them out there. But the deal is with those, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.920 and it depends how the game's going. Normally you don't 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.200 try those end of the half or desperate at the 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.640 end of the game because it's certainly in the middle 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.960 of the second quarter. Aren't going to go say, okay, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.240 let's go try a sixty five yard or and if 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:58.840 I miss, I'm going to give them the ball at 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.040 what the forty five yard line? Right? That ain't happening, no, 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.840 I think there. But your point two is at the 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.280 end of game game management, right, you know. Now, if 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.840 this thing turns into a tough, tight game, you know, 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.440 and absolutely the Cowboys are seventeen and seven on the 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.199 road since I think twenty fourteen, if i'm if I'm 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.120 right about that. So if you if you think about that, 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:23.680 and they're they're and they're I want to say, they're 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.720 eight and four in games decided by one score or less. 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.600 So to me, if it turns into you get into 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.040 a tough, tight game and all of a sudden you're 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.280 out of timeouts, you mean you're work in these situations 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.800 all week, out of timeouts, trying to move the ball, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.680 got to get the ball, wit it's gonna make a catch, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.160 gets out of bounce. Okay, now it's a sixty yard 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:47.400 field goal. You know you to Mickey's point, you have 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.280 to feel somewhat good about that. I mean not great. Yeah, 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:52.720 you're gonna have to win a game with maybe with 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.360 a sixty yard field goal. But it's a little different 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.360 than say if you're playing in Cleveland or Pittsburgh or 0:12:58.400 --> 0:12:59.840 one of those other New England and one of those 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.280 other places where you're not going to get that carried 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.680 because I mean, altitude might win you a game, believe 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.160 it or not. Just on special teams. It changed how 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:09.800 you call plays in general. I mean you go a 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.880 little more conservative if you if you're driving in the 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.560 in the drive stalls and you got a short yarded situation. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.440 But see what we saw it. But Denver blocked the 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.680 field goal. Denver blocked the fuel goal to save the 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.680 game the other day, so you have to be that's 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:27.440 in your mind. But they also, you know, the Chargers 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.840 made a fuel goal and then had the time out. Yeah. 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.160 This reminds me of the Thursday night football game that 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:36.000 opened up the twenty sixteen season. Last year, Grant Graham Gano, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.240 a great kicker in the National Football League, missed a 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.160 long field goal at the end of the game. Yeah, 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.439 and unfortunately I think it was Brandon mcmaan as their 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.640 kicker made it, right, he's used to practicing up there. Yeah, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.720 but what what what he was explaining? You don't want 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.400 to miss a field goal in the middle of the game, right, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.640 getting the ball at the fifty yards right. See that's yeah, yeah, 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.160 she's I totally understand what you're saying there, because, like 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.800 I say, it's you. It's one of those things that 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.400 you might have to figure out how you want to 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.320 manage if you're if you're say you're in the in 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.800 the hurry up mode, no time outs, you gotta do 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.400 whatever you have to do to win the game, tie 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.760 the game, whatever. But if you're a situation where you're 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.160 trying to milk clock and think about, okay, how close 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.600 can I I mean, what can I keep running the 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.560 ball here to keep you know, to have to throw 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.920 a third down? No, I don't have to run it again, 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:28.920 you know that kind of thing. So yeah, I think 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.520 the way that Jason Garrett, you know. But I'm gonna 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.440 give you guys an assignment, you know, because we do 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.560 the pregame show here. Oh, we'll watch for you watch 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.600 because please watch. Yeah, please watch when Dan Bailey goes 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.480 out there and tell me which side of the field 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.240 he's better kicking field goals into, because that might make 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.920 a difference too, of which direction they want to play 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.360 in the second half. Talking to him yesterday, he said, yeah, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.640 he'll go out before the game, and part of it 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.640 will be they always look right, what they're distance is distance, 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.120 find that distance way each way. Well, this time it's 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.080 gonna be okay, let's see how far. It's sort of 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.280 like when those guys come to AT and T Stadium, 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.080 the punters, and they all want to see if they 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.080 can punt and hit the video board video which the 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.760 guy last week Marquette whatever is the king is his name? 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.880 Not last week, but the Raiders guy. Uh, he hit it. 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.800 So I asked, I asked, Dan. I said, so, do 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.080 you have a feel like you have you ever kicked 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.640 an altitude? And he goes, not that I was aware of. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.960 He didn't sound like he'd ever kicked in Colorado. Um 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.360 I think although No, he said he kicked in Boulder. Yeah, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.440 so that means he kicked. So he kicked an altitude. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.080 I said, well, that's us high. Yeah. They were playing 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.720 Wyoming or those Yeah, yeah, and so but that'll be key, 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.600 that's when they warm up. Just yeah, that's a distance. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.000 That's something that'll be a good pregame. Note which way 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:48.960 he is going and how far the distance is. Well, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.640 we will bring that to you. And now we have 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:55.440 our altitude expert, but more importantly the Broncos expert, Andrew Mason, 0:15:55.520 --> 0:16:00.440 Senior Digital Report for the Denver Broncos. You are joined 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.480 Andrew by Mickey Spagnol and Rob Phillips and Brian brought us. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.800 We're very excited to have you on. So, how's everything 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.080 going up there in a Denver going great? How are 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.200 y'all doing great? Any snow in the mountains? If we 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.640 could take an hour trip, you know, I think some 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.320 of there's a couple of peaks up there. I saw 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.880 some pictures where there's a little bit of snow on 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.200 some of the peaks. But the big thing is if 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.680 you get up about forty five minutes up from here, 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.479 up towards about fair play places like that, the colors 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.840 on the aspens are really popping through. But what a 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.040 picture you've painted for us, and we're gonna get right 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.160 into it. This is obviously a big game for the 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.080 Cowboys coming up to Denver. They haven't won there since 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.720 nineteen ninety two. Now, the first question that I think 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.240 we're all wondering is how is this offensive line really 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.000 built up in the off season. I know that was 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.800 a big thing last year that Trevor Simeon was never 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.920 really protected. But adding one of our guys, Ron Leary 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.320 in the free agency, what do you think of it now? Well, 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.920 they definitely love what Leary can bring. Certainly you saw 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:11.440 that down there death. They liked the toughness and tenacity 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.120 that he's brought the introg interior the line. Of course, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.840 right now he's in the post concussion protocol, so they're 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.480 hoping he's a He's back. By Sunday, he was standing 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.400 on the sideline, was wearing a helmet on Thursday, which 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:28.120 is a a good sign for how he's coming through 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:32.359 the post concussion protocol to this point. But the rest 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.080 of the restaurants kind of kind of a work in progress. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.040 Aside from Matt Partis, who was a Pro Bowl selection 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.320 last year's center. Uh, you know Garrett Bowls first round 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.440 picket left tackle. Uh. You know, he's gonna come along 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.280 and fits and starts. You know, they like the add 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.000 to the nastiness that he's brought to. You know, had 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.640 a had a rough preseason game against San Francisco, three 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.240 holding penalties, but he's had some some flashes of brilliant 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:02.199 Menelik Watson at right tackle, uh, allowed some sacks on 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.840 Monday night. I think of they want to make sure, 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.000 they want to get him up to speed. I think 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.560 that's kind of what they're they're concerned about right now. 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.280 But you know, the line, it's a little I think 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.000 the thing you'd say is work in progress. Maybe they'll 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.240 try to kind of chip, but to chip on the 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.280 right side to help mintel a Watson out a little 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.119 more week too. Andrew, you know much was made about 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.480 the Broncos. You don't want to throw the football against 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.359 the Broncos, but running the football seemed to be a 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.800 good avenue of moving to football, made some offseason adjustments. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.399 Some guys actually bulked up, wait wise, So kind of 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.800 talk about where the Broncos run defense is right now 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.440 as you went through the preseason. Obviously you got San 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.440 Diego in a passing situation, But where does the team 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.679 feel like they are right now with their run game defense. 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:52.080 They're pretty confident in where it stands. And the Chargers, 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.200 you know, that was a run, that was a running 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.640 game that that caused the Broncos some problems last year. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.959 You know, Melvin Gordon had one hundred yard game against them, 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.040 against them, had and it was pretty consistent in both games, 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:10.000 consistently productive. And uh yet after that, after that first run, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.440 a twenty one yard or yard run to start the game, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.280 the Broncos really clamped down. You mentioned now that the 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.480 lineman got bigger, Derek Wolfe Adam Gotsis. Get that those 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.760 guys add about fifteen to twenty pounds. Jared Crick now 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.720 he's he's out for the season. He's out, he's out 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.080 on injured reserve because he just underwent the back surgery. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.800 But he had added weight as well. But between wolf 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.440 and Adam got to the second year guy. They're high 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:40.480 on adding adding weight and then bringing in Domtotecco from Cincinnati, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.879 a big three, you know, three thirty five pound veteran 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.760 nose tackle who is a kind of guy that can 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.560 occupy two blockers and three the inside backers up to 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.960 you know that they hope not have to take on 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.920 guard guards as often as as they were last year. 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.680 They feel like that can kind of help the rundee events. 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.639 But the big thing is the big thing is it 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.879 is upfront. I mean, last year, one reason why the 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.120 Broncos you know, struggled again struggled against the run. They 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.520 simply weren't making plays of the line of scrimmage so 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.600 many times, you know, most of their you know, it's 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.000 not they were allowing explosive runs twenty twenty five yards. 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:20.359 It was repeated four and five yard gashings over and 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.520 over and over again. Which is why the Broncos, you know, 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.600 we're in the bottom five in the league and run defense. 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.480 You go to Monday Night, they're they're getting a lot 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:31.679 more stops at the line of scrimmage or you know, 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.440 for one two yard games, and so they're getting the 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.800 kind of stop but with what they're getting up front, bigger, stronger, 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.359 you know, defensive linemen. They're able to get stops of 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.439 the line of scrimmage or within one or two yards, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.359 and so they're able to get to kind of stop 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:49.200 that knock an offense off schedule and force and force 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:52.120 to become one dimensional. So they're pretty happy with where 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.480 the run defense was in week one. That being said, 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.160 the Cowboys present a much bigger channels in week two. 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.280 So with Jared crick out, who takes his plays and 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.520 how do you think that guy moves in there and 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:06.440 how well would he perform? Well, they started Shelby Harris 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:10.000 in week one, and he's a guy he was with 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.800 the Raiders, actually was cut four times by the Raiders. 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.280 U Joe Woods, the defensive coordinator. He had worked on 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:19.439 the Raiders' staff a few years ago and kind of 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:25.119 brought him to the Broncos attention. He's he's been really 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.920 the big find of camp for the Broncos this year. 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:33.520 You know, impressed or impressed earlier in OTAs did now 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.800 he did a good job getting his hands up, knocked 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.080 down a lot of passes. So that really was the 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.000 first way he started getting a lot of attentions, so 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.520 you'll see a lot of Shelby Harris zach Kerr who 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:47.639 didn't play in Week one. He was a free agent 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.240 signee from Indianapolis and he had a knee bruise, but 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.240 looks like he's going to be back in the lineup 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:55.800 of week two. He's a three hundred and thirty pound guy, 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.720 so he's a he's a bigger defensive end and you 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.199 usually see will see him rotate in as well. And 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.160 then Adam Gottis, who was their second round pick last year. 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.720 You know, he had a frustrating rookie season for him 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.240 coming off the torn acl his team year at George 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.919 at Tech. He was not all the way back, but 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.600 had five tackles Monday night. Most of them were were 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.360 at or within one yard or the line of Scrimmish 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.560 was doing it was. You know, he's a guy that 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.560 added fifteen pounds of muscle in the offseason, much stronger 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.120 at the point of attack than he was last year. 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.160 Last year, Rul was really kind of getting pushed off 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.679 the line way too often. This year much stouter, and 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:36.960 I think those are the guys that are going to 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:38.640 step up and you're going to see plenty of them, 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.280 and of course Derek wolf is a is a guy 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.000 that you're gonna see that You're gonna see a lot 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.960 of He had an ankle injury throughout the preseason, but 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.680 he recovered from that and he said in week one 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.320 the only issue was it wasn't the ankle, it was Stammond. 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.760 I guess, getting his conditioning back, getting his win back 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.840 under him. All right, Andrew, will you just gave so 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.840 much information. I know you have to run to go 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.480 get your coach Vans Joseph and we will see you Sunday. 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.479 Thank you so much for joining us today. 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But it's time to realize 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.480 that not all fifty three players can play on Sunday, 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.320 even though you wish they could, especially when you're dealing 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.480 with certain depth at certain positions. Now I want to 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.040 ask you, guys, we did this last week. I went 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.240 around and kind of gave you my guesses. How did 0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.439 we do last week? By the way, we did? I 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.320 think we nailed it to knocked it out of mark. 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.439 I think I think we hit it. I think the 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.760 only question mark that we had, or at least I 0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.879 had written down on my notes, was really seventy nine 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.640 or sixty four. Obviously, it ended up being sixty four. 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:53.960 We understood that going sure, Okay, ready ready for this week? 0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:59.760 Cooper Rush, I'm gonna stick with Darren McFadden. Banay've been Wickery, 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:04.400 Orlando Scandrick obviously the new one there with the hand injury, 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:10.680 fifty nine, Anthony Hitchens, and then Jonathan Cooper and Noah Brown. Okay, 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.679 is there anyone there that you disagree with? I know 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.800 that certain people might be looking at a Terrence Williams 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:21.440 or maybe switching out Darren McFadden with Alfred Morris. Yeah, 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.000 could you consider going heavier at receiver because of Terrence's status? 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.360 Could you keep Noah Brown active instead or along with him? 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:29.879 But then you'd have to go light. You know, you 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:31.760 don't want to go light on the defensive line. You 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.920 would take that would be when the linebackers would come off. 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.440 Probably don't want to do that either really, or no, 0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.840 you can't take another running back off. Yeah, it only 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:44.800 got six healthy lineback fullback. Fullback wasn't a huge factor 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.280 in it the other day. But in this football game, 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.880 you could have probably need to run. Yeah, probably need 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:51.920 to move. You're gonna need to run, They're gonna need 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.000 to move them heavyweights in the middle too. Exactly. Yeah, 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:56.960 I mean, I only I see what you're saying, Rob, 0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:58.400 But I think if they were to do that, they 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.680 would just have to switch Charance Willy James and Noah Brown. 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.040 They couldn't both be active. If he's a go, If 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:04.560 they think Terence is a go, then he's a go. 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.040 That's what I'm think. They've got to feel good about him. 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.200 So yeah, I think you nailed it. Is there any 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.600 reason to think that they might switch, Darren McFadden offered Morris. 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.120 Jerry Jones said the other day and the fan, it's 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.760 kind of a close decision and it might be something 0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:22.040 where they alternate. Do you see the matchup being any different, 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:26.200 Brian No. I feel like though that there. I feel 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.800 like that they they want to talk about there's competition 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.640 between the two, but I really don't think there is. 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.960 I think that, you know, peck, Brian, I'm probably gonna 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.000 be wrong about this later on, but you know, looking 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:40.440 at it the way it is, I think it's still 0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.280 the same way, find a way to get to the line, 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.440 get through the hole. I feel like the coaches they 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.320 liked what he's able to bring. They like Morris's ability 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.600 to take the ball in the slash a little bit, 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.480 you know, And I mean you get a defense that 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.280 can tackle that. They've struggled against the run, you know. 0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.720 And Andrew said that though they've done a better job 0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.719 at least in the San Diego game of tackling up 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.840 front and so, but I still think it's I like, 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.880 exactly what you've done. I think that McFadden's the guy 0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.840 just because of the fact of this offensive line. They 0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:12.440 need to hit the whole quick, and they need to 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.680 get through the whole quick, and they need to finish runs, 0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.400 and I think he can do that. Now. Question, is 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.280 there any part of you that thinks they're keeping McFadden 0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.680 in his in their back pocket to keep them fresh 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.560 in case Zeke is has to service? Very reasonable? I 0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:31.600 don't you know what that Yeah, I make that change things. 0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.440 If Zeke wasn't here, if Zeke, well, if Zeke wasn't here, 0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.280 then he would be you're saying he'd be the starter. Yeah, 0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.360 I don't disagree. I think that's it's a Grassy Knoll 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.280 theory that going back to the Grassy Knoll being the 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:47.800 Kennedy deal. I'm sorry I dated myself there, but I'm saying, 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.320 I totally understand what you're saying, and I totally think 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.680 it's the plan that if you want to keep a 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.160 guy fresh and then spritting and we figure out this 0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.560 court thing and it doesn't work out in the cowboy's favor. 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:01.880 Now you got a fresh back and you put him 0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:05.280 out there. And because didn't they do that, Well, he 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.040 was in their back pockets sort of last year. He 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.080 was ready, but on bad he was hurt though, you 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:11.560 mean they well they had him on a reserve list 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.120 for most of the season, but they put him on 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.640 I R and then they just didn't activate him till 0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.800 what the last four games he was back in December. Yeah, 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.240 I was fresh. Yeah, So that's why that I don't 0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.640 I think it's a brilliant deduction on your part. I 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.360 remember the injuries he's had. Sure, it's like what they 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.640 should have done with the cornerback here, Mo Claiborne. You 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.160 should have kept him in active for nine weeks and 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.000 then put him out the second half of the season. 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.479 You probably have. Yeah. By the same token, though, wouldn't 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.240 you want to keep Morris fresh too? Like? I think 0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:47.920 it does come down to the two of them in 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:52.520 some respect, because Rod Smith is active because of special teams. 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:56.760 That's that is something he's earned. Yeah, no, one of 0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.480 those two guys. But maybe you look at Morris as 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.200 your your prime backup guy, right like he you know, 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.080 all he's gonna get is maybe four carries a game 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.520 like that, I think you're McFadden well made. Where else 0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:15.040 does McFadden help you if he's yea, Switzer's doing it right. 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:16.760 I kind of liked one of them, one of them 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.000 I didn't like. I see a lot of touchbacks on Sunday. 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.280 So your point as well made, Mickey. But then does 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:25.000 that answer the question of if this whole situation has 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.560 really become a distraction for this team because they have 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.560 to now kind of do Granted they had good depth 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.600 at running back, but they did it affect him in 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.240 the first game. I don't think so. But she's just 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.960 asking the question. I understand it. Yeah, I know. I'm 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.000 just not a big person on I know, I know 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.600 you're not, but you know, now it's showing that if 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.120 that's the case. And I think that's a great point 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.280 because of the fact that they kind of have to 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:52.000 tailor certain things knowing that this is the sixteen week season. Yeah, 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.760 sixteen games. Well, well, I tell you what, maybe we'll 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.440 know this if this thing goes full. If it goes 0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.960 full on where next week or whenever the league, whenever 0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.280 where we get the final rule, then then then if 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:06.160 then if McFadden comes back, Mickey's theory is absolutely or 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.040 I mean, like what if what if they would they 0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:09.880 find out he's playing the rest of the season, they 0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.400 change and then they say, you know what, Yeah, now 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.320 now it's well, we've given Alfred a few games, let's 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.960 give McFadden a few games, and then it becomes about ability. 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:21.480 Then I just yeah, but I just go back to 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.520 your point. You said, based on preseason work, you you 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.920 would I win the nod. I would. They both ran 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.040 well at times in preseason, but I think a body 0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.080 of work, you could say Morris was better. And I 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.280 don't want to say distruction because I know Mickey, you 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.400 know that's more of the fact, like they can't focus 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.520 on football, and maybe it's more about managing your team, right, 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:40.600 you know, because they've had to manage their team right 0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.200 now with Demontre Moore out for these first two games, right, 0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.520 So I don't necessarily think it's considered a distraction, But 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:49.920 it's definitely a kink in the way that you're going 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:54.680 to manage your team the rosters six rus. Just remember 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.920 what was the rotation in preseason? Who went Firstcfadden died, 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:03.200 Fadden did right, and who sat out on the practice 0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:07.200 when they sat out all the veteran guys mc McFadden, yeah, 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:11.200 Morris practice, Yeah, whole body. No, I you're you're nicky, 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.200 You're you're onto something. You're absolutely onto something, and I 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.319 think it's I think it's worth putting out there. I'm 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.799 glad you did that because that's something that you know, 0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:22.200 this team thinks about. They do think about. Okay, well, 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.600 if we're going to lose a guy, always say protecting themselves. 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.799 They're protecting themselves right here. They get say they do 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.759 put McFadden in there, but I think that Morris out 0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:34.080 played him the summer. I do that. That's me personally. 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.600 We'll see how they how they played, and you know, 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.600 Mickey could absolutely be right about how do you handle 0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.840 that as a player though, if they're like trying to 0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.799 kind of almost sugarcoat it, like, hey, you're not going 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.759 to get an active game week check this week, because no, 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.319 you'll always get it. They get us check. But but yeah, 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:53.240 but yeah, you're right. It is tough. He's a veteran guy, 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.160 sat out most of the last year. It is check. 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.600 But there's difference between being active and inactive. Sure, absolutely. 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:00.359 I mean this is a guy he carried the mail 0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.160 for them two years ago. It's got to be tough 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.000 to say, can you keep sacreds? It's like, hey, Yaren, 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.880 here's what we're doing. But don't say anything. Don't be upset. 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.400 You're you're gonna have the nicest sweatsuit out there. You 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.920 are gonna be just swaggy out Christine. Yes, but yeah, 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.319 this is why. But we do have a caller all 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:24.080 the way from Hawaii, Denny and Hello, Hello, how guys, Hello, 0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.080 see you guys. Uh see Brian, see you on November 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:32.080 nineteen with Star Sports Stories. Thank you, thank you. Yea. 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.600 I have a Smith and Smith question, but not the 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:39.240 Smith brothers. Um you guys brought up Keith Smith earlier. 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.520 I think with the three four defensive linement, I think 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.160 you know how you say, he can really dig up 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.080 those linebackers. Sure, and not only that, UM mean a 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.239 leage boker. But I like the way he receives the ball, 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.640 you know, in the screen passes and those swing passes. 0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.000 I think he does a great job with that, and 0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.120 I think I would like to see more of that 0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:03.120 package for this game especially. And then um, but for 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.600 Janen Smith, um, he looked good as a blitzer. And 0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:10.120 I don't think I saw where that he blitz at 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.520 all in the last game. But do you see him 0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:15.799 do you see him utilizing him more and more? Um 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.520 as a season? Goals aren't in this game. They still 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.560 get that pressure up the middle with right with see 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.399 in right And I'll hang up and listen to you guys, 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:27.960 Thank you so much. Are you like Jalen Smith blitz 0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:31.200 in there? Mick? I do if if if they're going 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.480 to play that, But yeah, it seemed like when they 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.360 were going to go to their three four package that 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.919 was going to be durant right, and they really didn't 0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:42.439 use it all that much. They placed basically played four 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:46.360 man front with a dime package with short linebacker. Sure, 0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.719 I'll say this about Jalen. I know you've always said 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:52.120 you like especially while he's still recovering or getting strength 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.239 in that foot going forward as opposed the backward. But 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:56.880 I like the way he was moving. I liked his 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:58.759 drops in the way he was turning and moving and 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.920 planning in game the other night. He's shown progress there. 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.880 He looked he really truly does look more and more 0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.200 comfortable movement out there than he has no he has. 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.319 I think you're absolutely right about that, Rob, I mean 0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.640 that's to me, but Mickey's right too. I mean, could 0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.440 we you know with a with a rookie quarterback, and 0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:17.239 if you go back and look Simeon's one of those 0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:21.040 guys that he does take sacks, but he actually thrives 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.520 when you pressure him. It's it's a strange dynamic with him. 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:28.160 He's almost a ninety five percent rated passer when you 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:32.880 pressure him, So he knows that's what I'm saying. He doesn't. 0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.200 He doesn't take sex. I think in one hundred in 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.839 his career, one hundred and thirty eight snaps or drop 0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:42.279 back attempts, he's only been sacked four times, so that 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.719 when you blitz him, so that you have to be 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.319 a little a little bit cautious about that. But in 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.920 normal down to distances, he's like six percent of his 0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:51.920 times he gets sacked. He's one of the worst in 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.359 the league when it comes to that. So maybe we're 0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.560 going to see more what Mickey's talking about. Three down lineman, 0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.720 clog and cover, try and make him make some accurate 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.919 throws there. If you can maybe get some pressure, maybe 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.680 if you bring the fourth rushure a is a slot 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.239 or one of the linebackers. But I just kind of 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.279 have a feeling though that they're not gonna blitz this 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.560 guy as much. They're gonna make him have to make 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.440 some throws. And we talked about what the problems are, 0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:18.160 Andrew even brought it up with the offensive line work 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:22.600 in progress. He's being really nice saying that because their 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:26.200 tackles have struggled, not to the Giants levels of struggle, 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:30.920 but you have to say, okay, tank Lawrence, go beat, 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.640 go beat Watson because he can do that. He has 0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:35.480 that capability and you know, we could see it in 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:39.040 this game, and maybe it won't require them to blitz. Yeah, 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:40.799 if you can just get home with four. I think 0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.000 that's what I think to me, that's the game plan 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:46.680 if a guy. If a guy's proven to me he's 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.480 got a short, you know, fifteen game career so far, 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.520 but if he's showing to me that he can handle 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.560 pressure and read, like you said, get rid of do 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.239 all that and he's complete and passes. I'm not gonna 0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.640 blitz him. I'm gonna make him have to make some throws. 0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.840 But if you telling me whoa he gets sacked on 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:06.080 normal down and distance situations, that's kind of where I'm going. Hey, 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.839 you just brought up a matchup that we haven't really 0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.600 thought about this this week, DeMarcus Lawrence and Watson. But 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.359 are there other matchups that we're just not really even 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.359 thinking about right now? You know? Is it the one 0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:22.000 the slot receiver versus the slot corner? Yeah? Who are 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:26.120 we really looking at? Yeah? Robie and Beasley matchupy, really 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:29.160 good matchup. Can Beasley win in space? Robi's a good player, 0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.359 He's a good space player for them, much like how 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.880 Scandrick is when he's healthy here. So that's a matchup 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.319 to watch for me. Yeah. Frederick at Pico mean again, 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.920 you know, Andrew talked about that they get this big 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.279 three and thirty pound, and last year Frederick was able 0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.000 to handle if we were doing our shows we were 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.480 about to Cincinnati Bengals and game matchups and Pico and 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.440 his ability to clog up the middle, big body doesn't 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.680 get turned, you know. And and last year I felt 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:59.040 like that Travis Frederick did a really nice job on him. 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:03.120 Matter of fact, him and Ron Learry and Martin were 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.480 able to control that middle. I think they're gonna have 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.440 to do. That's something we're not really focusing on. But 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.000 at the Cowboys, the way they run the ball, I 0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:11.640 think you got to find a way to get that 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:15.000 noseman secured. And especially though if they're playing, if if 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:16.879 we're get him in a nickel and they start spreading out. 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.680 Now it's about getting those guys all taking care of 0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.680 and getting to the second level. That's where the Cowboys 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.520 can have some success. A good thing. He got a 0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:27.960 three hundred and twenty pounds center. Yeah, yeah, moving him, 0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.080 he's done a lot better remembering his first in his career, 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.319 though he didn't handle the guy in his nose very well, 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.879 right If you remember, like early in his rookie year, 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.560 it was everything where it was athletic, moving was just fine. 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:41.000 But when a guy was on his nose, that's when 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:42.719 it was a problem. Now last week, the guy you 0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.319 know that snax wasn't on his nose. Snacks was like 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.080 a man removed or in a gap. That's a little 0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.200 bit more of a difficult block and Denver will play 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.600 a little bit more head up, true three four type 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.040 of affront, so you have to be ready for it. 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:56.920 I mean, he's gonna have to get on that to 0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:58.839 get on Peco quick and then they're gonna have to 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.520 get him up to the set level, get that thing secured, 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.280 and then allow twenty one to make those cuts. Mickey, 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:05.959 what do you think about the matchup of a Rod 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:11.680 Marinelli versus Trevor Simeon. You know, I don't know that 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:17.520 Rod does a lot of fancy you know things. I 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.520 think they do what they do, I don't. I don't 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:23.360 know that up that's his identity. Like these great schemes, 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:28.719 the trick people I now, changing up the formations sometimes 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.640 I think that can affect a young quarterback. But I 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.040 just don't think he comes up with these exotic blitzes. 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.759 Everybody wants a blitz. Well, when we talk about the 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.240 three four with two linebackers, where the linebackers are coming 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:44.600 in the gaps right, So it's not a matter of 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.960 the guy knowing how to blitz, it's a matter of 0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.920 are they picking everybody up? Did they read it right? 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.400 You know who's coming, because when you do it that 0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.759 you know you got three up there, but sometimes one 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:58.520 guy falls off and two linebackers blitz. So it's more 0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.640 of a confusion thing than it is your ability to 0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.800 blitz and get through, because when you're blitzing through the gaps, 0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:07.480 they're they're they're shooting the gaps basically on each side 0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.879 of the center. Right. How much room is there? Right? 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:12.879 You know, if those guys just kind of closed down 0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:15.680 in the middle, then maybe you freeze somebody on the outside. 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.520 But I just don't see Rod doing a lot of 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.480 fancy stuff. I think he gets guys ready to play, 0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.400 teaches them great technique, and you know, have at it. 0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.239 He relies really on their team speed defensively, and he 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.759 watched the Giants game. The Cowboys got to a lot 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:34.200 of a lot of tackles with speed. Rally to the 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:39.319 sound technique the tackle. Denver has trouble with defenses that 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.160 can run. You know, if you're a defense that can run, 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.520 they have problems with that. So that's gonna be the 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.200 Cowboys calling card. Mickey's absolutely right. I don't think you're 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.960 gonna see the exotics. You won't. That's just not gonna happen. 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.080 But what you're arguing to see is there, gonna try 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.720 and be sound. They're not gonna allow the underneath stuff. 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:57.799 They're gonna try and choke off the run the best 0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.680 they can get hats to the ball and tackle. That's 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:03.080 the team. They don't give a big place. Neither one 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.680 of these defenses give up big plays. That's that's going 0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:07.759 to be huge in this game. He's always tried to 0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.120 force the quarterback to drive the entire field. Yeah, and 0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.239 you make a mistake for a young quarterback, that's what 0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:13.960 your hoping is going to happen eventually. If you got 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.239 to put together ten twelve play drive, there's your altitude 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.000 play too. You kick the ball in the end zone. 0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.360 I think something too. You need to think about here, guys. 0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.080 You gotta make this guy score along with you. I mean, 0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:26.719 make Trevor Simeon have to score along with shoot doubt. Yeah, 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.000 may you turn it into a game where he has 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:32.080 to make a bunch of plays. I'm willing to bet 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:36.200 that Dak Prescott will make more plays. 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Why 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:35.120 the ingredients like the veggies never frozen and the pepperoni, 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:40.120 pork and beef? And tell you what what? There off 0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.920 the script? Now? If you order an extra large with 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:47.440 two toppings. You get it for eleven dollars. Okay, that's 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.879 a deal, and that's Papa John. You can't, you can't 0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:54.520 do it, that's can't Colby's special. Hey, we lead to 0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.040 Denver tomorrow and uh, Mickey, you're gonna be ordering some 0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:00.040 Papa John's tonight. Kind of get the packing ride and 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.279 everything ready to go for you know, they have pretty 0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.799 good pizza in Denver. By the way. Oh, it's funny 0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.200 with the altitude and what if the ovens? Sure, I 0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.400 think it helps. Hey, when I was younger and I 0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:11.640 would bake brownies or do anything like that, it was 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:13.600 always like my mom would make sure look at the 0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:18.040 high altitude instructions because mine always came out discuslay with 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:22.200 high altitude tennis balls I did. I did tennis and 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.360 tennis is something that Mickey and I have a common ground. 0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:28.640 You get this scheduled? Can we get this matchup film? 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.239 I think Rob? I think Rob and I could take 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:35.440 you two. No, yeah, it's not a hype thing, not 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:39.160 even me not having played a match basketball. I think 0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:42.880 we'd be okay, Rob, We're fine. We could, like I understand, 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.520 maybe a team sport, maybe football for sure. Flag football, 0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.840 no doubt, Tennis. Watch me. I'm a good player. I 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.000 get up to that. Now. You could wait with nail 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:55.279 Or from disc and Basketball, Chip, Chip and Chase all 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:56.960 day for these two. You wouldn't get a shot off. 0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:00.520 You wouldn't get a shot would and frustrated after let's 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.279 get back to fo Okay, you're not frustrated because drive 0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:07.200 right Hu hut damn Marino hard count on that Rob 0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.080 Before we get to your pool. We gotta call her 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:13.040 Kenny and tennessee what is up? Hey? How's everybody doing? Kenny? 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.719 Where are you been? I man, I've had a little 0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.440 bit of change in life and change jobs, and it's 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:23.279 hard for me to get when it's live now, you know. Yeah, 0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.960 well we miss you. Well, I miss I missed calling in. 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.799 I mean, I don't like watching it on the delay either. 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:31.759 I like watching it live. But I just got two 0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.120 quick questions and I'll let you go. All right, Yeah, 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:38.919 this is Zeke situation. First of all, I just think 0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:42.839 it's a conspiracy against Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:46.920 But anyway, if it continues home and goes like towards 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.360 the end of the season, is the league really that 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:53.839 common and with suspending and the miss playoff games. Sure 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.640 they would, yes, you know what, and it would depend 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.319 on when the courts decide. Absolutely here in the case 0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:01.200 if it's x AD died, right, it could be heard 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:02.920 later in the season, and then it just depends on 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:06.680 what it's heard. Yeah right, absolutely, yeah, they certainly will. 0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:09.600 You know, in that case, I want to look at 0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.200 it like I might want to go ahead and get 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:16.000 his old wids if it's bound behind us theory. Yeah, well, 0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:19.240 I got uh one more question because it really messed 0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.640 me up. Drafted my fantasy team because all I get 0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:26.400 to do is watch preseason games and stuff. Did Alfred 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:29.279 Morris really out play McFadden Because when I got to 0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:32.600 seek in the draft and I drafted McFadden as the handcuff, 0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.160 and then when that game started us to day, it 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:39.759 blew my mind. Alfred Morris was some second team I 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:43.080 feel you. And uh so that add did Alfred Morris 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:46.920 really out playing this year? He did. Brian thinks he 0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.799 did miss Kitty and Tennessee. Yeah he really did. Been 0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:54.360 like ten years. Yeah he did. He did outplay it. 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:56.959 But we'll see. But to them, like Micky said, Mickey 0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:00.480 threw you a great nugget right there about that, and 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.319 so I don't I like what he's saying. But if 0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.800 they the coaches feel like that, Nick Fadden, when this 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.279 whole Zeke thing comes to light completely to the end, 0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:13.239 if they suspended Mickey's right, I wouldn't be surprised to 0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.040 see mcfaddenback as your starter. I hope Kenny's keeping his 0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:18.399 neighbors at Bay two, by the way, because they would 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:22.600 give him trouble when the Cowboys lost. Yeah, Robert Poll 0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:27.280 and then to some rank up Okay pole today recap 0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:29.080 and we did a great job. I think, are recapping 0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.200 all these matchups throughout the week. We're gonna ask the 0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.239 fans what's the key matchups Sunday at Denver? Okay? Number 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:38.400 one does Bryant versus a keep to Leib Two Nolan 0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:43.160 Carroll against Damarus Thomas. Three, the Cowboys offensive tackles against 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:48.160 mister Miller von Miller, And fourth Zeke against the Broncos 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:51.080 front seven. How will the running game fairs or four 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.320 good ones? Yeah? What do you guys think? How I 0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:55.000 think they voted or how did we Who would you 0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.880 say I would take for? What do they say or 0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:00.680 what do I say? Your pick? I'll take or number three. 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:04.560 Okay von Miller, Okay, von Miller. That's an easy one. 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:09.319 I guess I'll say Zeke's a good one. Ryan, give 0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:13.560 me the front seven seven. Zeke. Yeah, go load the 0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:16.160 wagon and go, you guys, load the wagon. You guys 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:18.200 are on the money. Those are the top two answers. 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:22.240 Door number number one was door number four, Zeke against 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:25.400 the Broncos front seven, followed by the Cowboys tackles against 0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:28.680 von Miller. Your choice, Micky of the vote there. Well, 0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.960 if the tackles don't play, then Zeke doesn't play. No, 0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:35.360 that's true. But I think that you cannot allow von Miller. 0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:37.680 That would be captain obvious here. Don't let him wreck 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.240 your game, right, you know, don't let it be second 0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.560 and nine. Say, this is where the Broncos thrive. They 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:46.800 thrive in making you when you have to throw the football, 0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.880 they love it. That's how they they you know, and 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.439 you know Brad Allen is the official in this game. 0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:56.600 Brad Allen had the Philadelphia Washington game last week. Brad 0:50:56.640 --> 0:51:00.239 Allen's crew only called one defensive holding penalty. This is 0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:02.200 gonna be a key, and this is gonna be a 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:04.759 key if they and I have a feeling that Brad 0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:08.880 Allen's crew is going to let this defense play, you know, 0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:13.080 so Cowboy receivers had better be ready for a clutch 0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.640 grab hold game. Yeah. I just feel like it's that's 0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:19.120 what's going to be. I don't like to compare this 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:22.560 team to the twenty sixteen team. Obviously there's a lot 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:26.600 of returning guys and their identity is pretty much the same. 0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:29.880 But last year brand we were on Cowboys break, we 0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.560 weren't with these lovely gentlemen here. But I felt like 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:34.799 you would tell me a guy like von Miller, right, 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:38.880 they watch about an example in my mind is Vontes perfect, right, 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.520 And this team really found a way, whether it was 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.200 just in you know, the way they played and changed 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:45.680 it up in the game, but they found a way 0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.000 to really not make block him yet to block them 0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.719 and to make them not the big factors in this game, 0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:55.080 you know. And we're talking about Damarius Thomas yesterday. I 0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:58.520 feel like Rod Marinelli knows how to kind of take 0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:01.880 down these big time receive Alshan Jeffrey aj Green, the 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.440 ones that he's faced in the past couple of seasons here, 0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:08.719 they really haven't Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why 0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:12.680 that is. He wasn't calling the place when Johnson tore 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:16.920 him up Calvin john Troit No, Yeah, was that was that? 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.839 That was? I think that was that Rob was that two? Oh? 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:25.560 That was Marion Ellie's first year here? So which was here? 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.600 He just wasn't charging to your point on my shoulder 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:35.720 in Kansas City, Yeah, that's right for von von Miller matchup. 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:37.640 This is what Loo Collins has been working for for 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.839 four months. I mean, this is what he's been taking 0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:42.640 all the reps for back in OTAs he's gotten He's 0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:45.480 watched cut ups of every guy he's gonna face, and 0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:47.680 I would imagine that includes von Miller. It was Jpp. 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:52.280 They ever faced each other in college. Vaughan against Elia 0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:55.000 was a SEC or Vaughn was in the SEC. He 0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:56.960 was out, I don't think so he was out in 0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:01.120 the first ten, the seventh. He's in his seventh year. Solf. 0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:03.440 I was trying to think because sometimes you see SEC 0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:06.520 matchup guys and you forget that Texas A and m was, Yeah, 0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:08.920 he might have been a freshman Bonds last year. I 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:10.320 have to go back and look, but I mean, this 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.879 is this is what he's prepared for all year long. 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:17.239 So look these guys, the Petco guys three thirty three, 0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:23.120 twenty five, Ker three thirty five, Wolf is two eighty five. 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.239 Well he's bigger than that, now they might so it's 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.759 probably three hundred. So with those big old guys in 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.800 the middle, just make them go laterally, you know what. 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:35.360 The altitude bothers them too, by the way, So you 0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:39.799 get them running laterally, you'll run talk here, yeah, talk 0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:45.520 talking at altitudes like water. It sees it sees no 0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:51.000 difference in any right. Everybody's don't use to use to excuse. 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.759 Manuaco tried to do that and it's like, did you 0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:57.960 guys win that game out there? No? They lost. I'll 0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:00.560 see you, you know. I think you're on to something though, 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.600 to take Yeah, every time we want to talk about 0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:06.360 a matchup that maybe the game hinges and I like 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:09.440 the fact that you win on is there a secondary matchup? 0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:11.440 We're not. I don't think we all went into and 0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:13.360 we're gonna do rank them here, I'm sure before we 0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:15.520 get out of here. But we none of us really 0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:18.879 thought about DeMarcus Lawrence and the impact that he had. 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.920 He would have, you know, it's somebody like that it's 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:23.800 gonna be somebody in this game when you've got it, 0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:26.279 when you've got a matchup with with both sides, having 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:29.600 star players on both sides, and you always kind of 0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:31.680 think of the star players. It's always good to kind 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:33.920 of think of that that X factor guy that I 0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:36.080 got one might be the difference maker. You got one? 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:37.600 You want to lead us off rank? Oh, or do 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:42.640 it right now and rank them four minutes, Tyrone Crawford. 0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:45.960 I like it. I think Tyro and Crawford will be 0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:49.320 like heydla, let me have a few I mean a 0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:52.000 few rushes or a few sacks. Sacks. Oh, there we go. 0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.439 It's get a little better a week later from the ankle. Yeah, 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:57.520 he'll be. He'll be the guy that you're like, I 0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:01.920 forgot you were on this team. Yeah, how are you there? 0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:05.000 It is there, it is, Mick, you got one. I'm 0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:09.239 still thinking, still brewing Anthony Brown, Anthony Brown, good Way, Yeah, 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.120 Anthony Brown, I think is you know rank he's gonna 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.200 he was outstanding. I thought last week playing I didn't 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:17.719 pick him already, seems like an obvious choice. Okay, then 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:20.279 I would go I'll go for another one. There, I'll 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.000 go out. I'll go good if you want to. If 0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:24.360 you want an X factor player, maybe a Woozier. You know, 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:26.680 somebody's gonna have to step up in the secondary. It's 0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:31.879 gonna coming, Yeah, somebody's somebody's gonna have to pick off 0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.399 a ball, somebody's gonna have to make a tip play. 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.920 Somebody's gonna have to turn this game. It's gonna come 0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:39.920 down to possessions and how you do in your possessions. 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.680 If you could deny the Broncos possessions, if you could 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:45.520 deny their court breaks, if you deny, send me in 0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.320 the ability to throw the football and make him have 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:50.000 to make some tough throats. It's gonna have to come 0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:52.560 on some of those guys. Brown, a Woozier, you know, 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:55.760 Nolan Carroll, he might Nolan Carroll might be an X factor. 0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:58.719 He was kind of just just did his job last week, 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:00.239 but he might have to be a big or X 0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.040 factor player this week. May say every one of your players, Mickey, 0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:07.720 I am going with the champ. Who's that Marcus Lawrence 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:11.920 got the belt? Yeah he does. He does have the belt, 0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:13.520 which a matter of factly, when he showed up for 0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:16.239 his interview with us for the Jason Garrett Show. He 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:20.799 brought his championship WBC belt with him. We were looking 0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:26.799 over his shoulder. What was we get a belt? Marinelli's belt. 0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:30.520 The commissioner of the WBC showed up at training camp. Oh, 0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:32.919 I see everyone. He gave him a belt. Oh wow. 0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:36.040 And so now the defensive line votes give it a 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:39.239 player of the game and whoever has the belt, I mean, 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:42.239 whoever wins, it's the belt for the week. Great idea. 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:46.320 So he came with draped over his shoulder and the 0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.560 other guys were yelling at him, and he goes, I 0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:51.480 ain't giving it up. I'm the champ. That means if 0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:55.600 he wins again, I'll tell you what. Though, him against Watson, 0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:58.480 I like that. I like the matchup. You said pick him, 0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:02.319 You didn't say pick somebody obscurc it right. I mean 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:05.840 we could we could Joe Zeke Dak, We could do that. 0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:07.840 We could know we could switch this and make this 0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:10.319 more of than X factor type who won last week? 0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:17.120 I got co belts, They got co belts. All right, 0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:21.760 I'm gonna just because he made a job, they made 0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:24.520 a T shirt. Did you get a T shirt from that? No? 0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:27.520 But I'm in buy one for Mickey, dude, perfect catch. 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.080 And then at the end of the show, it's gonna 0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.360 say wardrobe provided by Taylor Stern for Mickey, that's all right. 0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:36.560 For Captain Angry Pan, we'll just pass it around. We'll 0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:41.160 pass the shirt Aptain Angry. Interesting there, I'm gonna go 0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.960 Stephen Paia. Can they shut down the game? C J 0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.680 Anderson kind of between the tackles? Guy, how does their 0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.280 nose tackle fair in the game? I like it. Rob, 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:51.600 We'll see. Well. Here we are, end of the week. 0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.320 Time to get on the road. Thank you guys so 0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:59.560 much for joining another edition of Talking Cowboys. This has 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.440 been a duction of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:04.160 Dallas Cowboys Football Club.