WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Who's The Pick? 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:15.159 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys Let's go. Are 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.040 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:23.200 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:27.080 much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:33.159 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:39.280 Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, April twenty seventh, 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.640 twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number six. Welcome to 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:44.519 the latest edition of The Break, live from the s 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.680 WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Got Nick Dave in 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.760 Amber with me today. We're gonna get you guys ready 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.920 for the Draft. It starts tomorrow, full three days of 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.200 draft coverage that will have on all of our platforms, 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.959 Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Cowboys Mobile. This is a great opportunity. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.120 If you've never checked out our connect to TV device, 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.199 which is on Apple TV and Roku and Amazon Fire, 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.679 you should download it because this will be a great 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.520 way to watch Dave's mug for three days straight right 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.040 from your couch. Sorry about that, and right from here. 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.240 Now do that and listen to all the great insight 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.480 they'll have about the draft as it goes on. There 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.679 is no better, absolutely no better draft coverage than what 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.840 those guys put together, and then obviously all the other 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.320 content that we create for all of our other channels. 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.480 So make sure you follow us this week Thursday, Friday, Saturday. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.920 We'll give you guys all the latest and greatest. How's 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:37.000 everybody doing today, I'm wonderful, Derek. It's football Christmas, best 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.720 three days of the year. Yeah. No, Like I mean 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:44.319 I'm speaking only for myself, like yeah for him, for him, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.040 not for us. People are always like like really like 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.080 I enjoy the draft more than like any game, more 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.960 than trading games. Absolutely, yeah, games are stressful. Draft is 0:01:54.000 --> 0:02:01.440 fun just yeah, yeah, studying all hundreds of face but 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.640 just because the game, like what does it mean? It 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.400 means you lost, or it means you won. Drafting Laton 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.240 Vanderesh in the first round doesn't mean anything for the 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.480 next two or three years, So it's hard to It's 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.800 fun to say all right, all this work and just 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.240 say like I got it, but like I still don't 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.200 know what it means, and I just I think it's 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.480 funny how people are gonna be like pissed off, like 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.080 I hate this draft, like you don't know anything what's 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:30.040 happened yet. But that's what I just think, it's just incomplete. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.240 But but see, I think that's probably why I think 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.040 it's so much fun, is it's just it's just a 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:38.480 big information gathering session and that's the most rewarding part 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.880 about it for me really. I mean, it's fun talking 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.000 about what the Cowboys are gonna do and we have 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:44.480 an idea of who they're gonna pick, and we get 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.640 to see how it works out. But like, if you 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.720 do this for enough time, you just know the league. Yeah, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.760 Like you're just like I got a baseline of information 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.720 about damn near every football player in the NFL because 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.040 I studied them during the draft. And it's a ton 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.960 of fun to just be like, that's that guy, that's 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:02.840 the dude that I loved in the third round that 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.720 the Bengals snatched. Good for them, you know that type 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.440 of thing. It's just fun. It's actually one of the 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.720 reasons I wish I have more time to really devote 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.919 to learning the draft, because you're right, you get a 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.720 you get an understanding of the entire league, every player 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.440 in the entire league, even the random guy that's playing guard. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.760 In Jacksonville. You kind of got an idea about him 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.240 because you you watched him during the tree always joke 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.120 about how like you know, two people just blow nick up. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.120 Every time there's a flea flicker, like every time, like 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.239 the good and the bad. Like every time Deebo Samuel 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.000 does something, people are like you, you were right about him. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.160 You loved him so much, you loved debo, you would 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.920 have drafted him in the first round. And then to 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.520 this day, every time Lakwan Treadwell does anything, which is 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.280 not often, they're like, you wanted to draft him in 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.200 the top five, you big dumb idiot. And I'm like, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.520 I sure did. Yeah, that's true. You're gonna be right, 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.000 you're gonna be wrong. It's fun. I love it. All right. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.360 Let's talk about the pre draft press So that happened yesterday. Yeah, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:00.120 Jerry and Steven and UH and coach McCarthy up there 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.560 and they were answering lots of questions and we covered it. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.760 But there are some different things that came out of 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.440 it I wanted to talk about. Let's start first with 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.440 a quote that Stephen made. He was talking about about 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.440 the drafts particularly, and he said that the draft this year, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.240 the depth is really found in the thirteen rounds three 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.680 through five, he says. He went on to say that 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.520 he expects it they'll have roughly fourteen to sixteen first 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.120 round grades, which again just for those that don't know, 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.960 typically teams don't have a full thirty two players who 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.200 are first round who have first round grades on them, 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.000 and just because it's their draft in the first round 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:38.839 doesn't mean they have a first round grade. But he 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.840 did say fourteen to sixteen, it's a little less than 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.279 what they would typically have. That being said Dave nick Amber, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.240 from what you guys have seen of draft prospects, you 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.160 agree with that assessment that really the depth of this 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.880 thing is really in those middle rounds. That's a nice 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.800 way to say it's an average draft. I mean, you know, 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.719 it's just there's not a lot of great players, but 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.359 there's some good players. That's where you're gonna take these guys. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.960 It also is a good way to say that there's 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.680 they're probably all over the board officially, there's a team 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.000 that has twenty five first round either grades. I mean, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.960 it's just different. It's just the way they evaluate them differently. Yeah, Well, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.240 my number one reaction is like they're always going to 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.320 frame it in a way that sounds good for them, 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.240 because I immediately thought he's like, yeah, rounds three to five, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:22.960 and I'm like, oh, you mean the rounds. You have 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.640 six picks in those rounds, right, cool. So of course 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.960 you think it stacks up well for you because that's 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.040 where what you have to work with. But the consensus 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.640 on this draft is, yes, it is lacking in sexy 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.320 star power in the first twenty picks. Like you know, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:42.680 you think about recent drafts twenty sixteen, obviously, even twenty 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.520 seventeen where there's just all like you go down the 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.599 top twenty and you're like, oh my god, like he's 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.200 an all pro. He's an all pro. I think the 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.159 consensus is like, it's short on that. But then really 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.760 starting around where the Cowboys pick, like, I don't think 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:01.360 there's a huge difference between pick twenty and pick sixty. No, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.120 that's what it's like. And Stephen said that too, which 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.880 I thought was interesting, is they have more good second 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:13.039 round grades than ever before, like or more than usual, 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.880 we'll put it that way. So they might have as 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:19.880 many as like two dozen guys where it's like not 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:21.800 quite a first rounder, but we feel good about him 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.840 in the second round, which is exciting when you think 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.440 about the third round and even the fourth round. Like 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.880 some of those guys tend to hang around. So I 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.920 do think that's right, but it's also convenient for them 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.160 that they feel that way. Yeah, I wasn't. I was 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.440 gonna say I was. I didn't necessarily like hearing that comment, which, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.679 if he's being honest about you know, Okay, these are 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.719 fifteen first round grades that we have in our list 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.640 right now. But then when you hear comments, I like, Okay, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.080 we don't have any musks. We don't our hands are 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.799 not tied to picking a specific position in this draft. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.800 So then IM we'll get to that. And yeah, I'm 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.560 sure we will. But just kind of looking into all 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.159 that and putting it all together, I'm like, Okay, first 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.919 of all, I do think you kind of do based 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.120 on your necessities. But then hearing that you have around 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.520 fifteen guys, I'm thinking, okay, that limits you even more. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.160 You know, you already have a certain limitation based on 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.440 your needs. Now you're talking about there's only a certain 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.440 group of fifteen guys. Yes, you can possibly trade up 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.040 and all that, and we'll see what actually happens tomorrow. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.640 But it's just like another aspect that wasn't like, oh, 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.520 that's great to hear. I would like to hear, you know, 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:36.400 maybe a bigger quantity of guys, which doesn't usually happen anyways. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.480 But the quarterbacks, there's no quarterbacks that are that are 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.840 anybody really want to go get And you know, I mean, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.760 there might be some in the first round, but I 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.240 bet you not a team in the league has a 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.600 first round grade on a quarterback. Well then that's not 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.320 to say they won't get drafted in the first round, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.960 but I bet you nobody has a first round and 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.040 that's that's pushing people down. You know, if I've ever 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.800 seen that in NFL drafting, I remember that like the 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.080 year where there were no well I didn't want the 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.560 year I got here. Twenty thirteen is famous for how 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.760 bad the quarterback class was. I think A. J. Manuel 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.840 was the first one taken, and he all the way 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.520 down at like sixteen. Yeah, y, I'll pull it up. Yeah, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.440 and then yeah, it happens every now and a year 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.800 to be twenty four when you hope that there's four 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.960 or five quarterbacks and you hope that there's teams that 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.160 want to trade up to get that quarterback and you 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.200 don't need a quarterback, you don't need perfect yeah, which 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.840 that's we do this all every year. We're like, you 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.960 need those quarterbacks to go because that's gonna push players 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.240 down to you. And you never know what might happen 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.600 because teams do stupid stuff with quarterbacks all the time. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:36.800 But like, I think you can't count on more than 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.400 one quarterback getting drafted before the Cowboys pick. It might happen, 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.280 but I don't think you can count on it. You know. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.520 One of the things that when he said that, that 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.200 jumped out to me and Nick, you and I are 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.360 talking about this a little bit yesterday, and I think 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:49.920 you have a little different spin on it. But it 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:54.400 made me wonder because there are only fourteen sixteen first 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:59.120 round grades for them, and because the real meat of 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.640 this draft, as he was saying, really can't in round 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.480 three to five. It makes me wonder if they would 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:08.240 consider packaging those first and second round picks to move 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.079 up in the first round to get a better player, 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.600 one of those players that they think really is has 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.040 a first round grade and for go maybe one of 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.559 those second round guys, because again, as you said, Dave, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.360 some of those second round guys that they have second 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.280 round grades on will likely drop to the third. Maybe 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.280 they're in the fourth. You might still be able to 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.440 get them later, but you can get a better top player. 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.319 What do you guys think, did you take anything from 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.080 what he said about maybe what their strategy could be? Well, 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.640 can we have the conversation about him saying that there 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.960 are no musts? Yeah, I think that. I think that 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.640 ties into it because I think that's one of the 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.360 most blatant lies I've ever heard at a pre draft 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.760 press conference. Like I was joking with Nick after it 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.280 was over. If I walked into the war room and 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.600 was like, Okay, y'all don't have any musts, so we're 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.240 just not gonna pick this year like you're from, Like 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.400 they would freak out and be like, absolutely not, Like 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.760 we need players, We got stuff we gotta do. And 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:01.200 so the reason I say that is, how can you 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.640 afford to package good picks again in a draft where 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.079 you think there's gonna be quality in rounds two and three? 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.320 How can you afford to package that to address one 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:14.320 position when there's probably four that you gotta do something 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.480 about in this draft? Well, it was my second round pick. Well, okay, 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.120 I mean I'm sorry. I think I lost one last year. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:21.880 I mean that's what I think right now. I think 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.120 I've lost my second round. You at least have to 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.959 you can't. I mean, you have to assume that that's 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.880 a possibility. So I can't. I can't waste another pick. 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.760 And I get it that, you know, but but to 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.360 move up for a number of like sixteen seventeen, I 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.600 mean that's still kind of a crapshoot as well, Like 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.680 I can't do that. But I'm gonna say this about 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.720 the must. Are we one hundred percent sure that he 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.200 wasn't referring to first round must. I mean, they've got 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.400 to get a guard, they've got to get a receiver 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.880 at some point. Was he saying that there's no must 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.319 for us, like right, that would make a lot more 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.719 sense to me, Like that would be he didn't say, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.480 but that would be to me, that would be like, oh, okay, 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.720 I get that, but but yeah, no, I mean positions 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:04.720 that they still have exposed. That's why it all seemed 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.960 a little weird too. I'm reading the transcript. He said 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.959 this is verbatim. I wouldn't say we have any must's 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.520 left in terms of having to take a particular position 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.040 at some point. The phrase at some point implies anywhere 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.559 in the draft, anywhere you just can't not have an 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.160 offensively you have to draft two offensive linemen. Well, if 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.320 you had told Stephen Wright and now you're like, hey, 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.880 I've been to the future, the drafts over and you 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.720 didn't get an offensive lineman, his face would turn white. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.840 He'd be like, are you serious? Like, unless unless there 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.560 are free and we talked about this last week on 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.480 our show, unless there are free agents that are still 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.320 out there that they're like, we could go sign that 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.800 guy tomorrow if we choose to, and he can he 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.280 can play the role that we need him to play 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.840 for this exactly. So, So if that's the way they're 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.880 looking at it, and they're saying, hey, we think we 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:51.600 got some vets out there that we can go get 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.440 tomorrow if we need to, that may be the wonderful 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.079 vote of confidence that you've left them sitting out there 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.840 unsigned for six weeks all the offseason program has started 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.200 on and the rest of the league is also, Yeah, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.679 what a wonderful I'm not saying I'm not saying that 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.600 that's actually what it is what I'm saying is that 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:10.600 would be the only way that that that statement makes 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.200 a lot of case to me, as if they already 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.040 know we got to back a plan. And this goes 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.559 back to what I've said for years, and I absolutely 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.640 hate this press conference because we're over here talking about it, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.840 and in reality is if Steven would have said, yeah, 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.520 we have some must I think you guys know what 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.400 they are. There's a couple of positions that we have 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.080 to take, probably in the first round. Yeah, never say so. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.800 Then when Kenyon Green and Zion Johnson sitting there at 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.800 twenty two and twenty three and some team in the 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.840 back is like, we want this guard. I mean the Cowboys. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.440 We know they're gonna take a guard. We better jumped them. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.160 So that's what this whole I mean. Yeah, which I 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.280 get it. I'm not I'm not I'm not offended. I'm 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.600 not offended at being lied to. But I've still got 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.800 to call into all those specifics. You can just say, yeah, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.280 we have some must like every other team every year, Yeah, 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.959 there are positions. God bless Yeah. You have to have 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.480 seen the YouTube video of Brian right Brian Broh when 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.959 Brian ran the Eagles draft, like he did one of 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.400 those pressers and like they cut they they asked him 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:08.920 that type of question. He was like, you guys know 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.400 what we need the fans know what we need to 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.920 like it's not a secret, which is in that quintessential. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:19.520 He would always do that on the show too. You 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.880 watch that, you you see you know? Yeah, yeah, you know. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.040 So let me ask you this question. And I'm not 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.240 saying this is what it is, but I do have 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.680 to ask the question. Do you think that maybe in 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.800 their minds they are looking at McGovern maybe Farniac, I 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:34.840 don't know, are they looking at guys that are currently 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.720 on their roster and giving them more credit than we 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.840 give them because they've seen them last year. They have 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.480 a different opinion maybe than we do of them. Of course, 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.560 of course they are. I mean they do. I mean, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.720 especially at the center, you know, like they have a 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.920 different opinion of be honest than I do. They have 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.480 a different opinion opinion of UM and I think they 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:59.120 have a different opinion of what that position is because like, yeah, 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.400 they had a had a much better thought. I mean, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.080 you got ball sitting out there. We don't know what 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.839 he is. I have no idea what he is they 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.560 may look at him and say, he's our swing tackle. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.760 We think he can be our swingtack. Who knows. I'm 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.559 just saying that has to be factored in here as 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.040 far as how they look at it, because they're ultimately 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.080 the ones that are answering those questions and they may 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.360 have a different opinion to those guys. Yeah, or which 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.760 maybe or also behind closed doors, they're like, somewhere between 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.840 pick twenty four and one twenty nine, we're gonna get 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.960 somebody to come in here and compete for this. Yeah, 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:30.400 and they're not going to say that to us, right, 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.920 It's fine. Do you think that maybe they are looking 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:38.240 at the old and again, they're not dumb. They they've 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.360 been in this business for years and years and they've 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.680 gotten the success that they've got in the past and 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.960 all that, so they have the experience and their knowledge. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.440 But do you think that maybe they're looking at the 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.960 old line differently than how we are looking at them 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:58.000 based on the soul reason that last year their offense 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.960 was still able to perform at a certain level with 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.240 the guys that they had at the time. I mean 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.760 right now they lost, Uh, yeah, they don't have oh 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:11.440 my god. Aside from Connor Williams le Collins either. But 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.120 I don't know, I don't know how I'm trying to 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.640 phrase this question. But do they see it just differently 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.680 given the fact that they produced so much last year 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.640 versus how we see them that it's like, Okay, your 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.880 passing game obviously needs it, your running game obviously needs it, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.560 and we see it at a much higher level of 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.440 priority at this time. There's sorry, go ahead. There's just 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.760 no way that they could think that unless they're delusional, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.880 because a like, the reason the second half of the 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:41.920 season was nowhere near as good as the first is 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.600 because their running game completely fell off a cliff because 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.680 they couldn't block anybody, and then and because Zeke was 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.200 hurt but whatever, and then the last impression we have 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.360 of this team is a better offensive line that had 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.360 Lyell and Connor Williams, who you can't tell me McGovern's 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.080 better than because they tried to bench him and put 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.960 him back. So stop better offensive line with two better players. 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.560 Our last impression is of them getting mauled by the 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.440 type of team you have to beat in the playoffs, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.520 like absolutely destroyed. Dak was sacked five times. They couldn't 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.040 run the ball. What else do you need to say? Like, 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.840 if that's how they feel, they are in some serious 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:23.480 denials differently. And that's the part that that you're trying 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.160 to figure out is are they just lying just because 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.880 is it a lie and they know it's alive because 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.400 they have to do that before the draft, slim char 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.600 or or or is it the situation where they really 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.120 believe that? And then you're trying to figure out why 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.160 would they believe that? And that's where you're kind of 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.160 left pulling straws, like what what do you think could 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.400 possibly be here? No, I've I've referenced this ten times 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.520 in the last few days. I'll do it again. I mean, 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.880 they told us that running backs is not not valued 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.680 very high in twenty sixteen. You can't take running backs 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:59.120 this high. And then they three days later, So this strategy, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.000 I mean, coit is like a nice way to say it, 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.560 but yeah, they lie. They lie three or four times 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.920 in that Jerry said that in the past, I'm pretty 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.080 sure to the media like if my mouth is moving around, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.320 jaff time, I might be lying. It's part of the game, 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.000 part of Jerry. Actually he did. There was an element 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.720 of truth in some of the stuff he said where 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.560 he was like, we chum the water at this time 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.920 of year, that's what we do. We're stern, I almost 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.680 said a bad word. We're string stuff up. So it's 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.600 part of it. Yeah, every every team in the league 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.800 is doing and that's these last like this last week 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.919 is really it's frustrating as somebody who starts talking draft 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.159 in like December, this week is frustrating because this is 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.919 when everybody's doing that. Like everybody's chumming the water. Everybody's 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.960 trying to accomplish this, that and the other, and there's 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.400 more media attention than ever. So you almost just need 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.240 to tune this week out and be like, all right, 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.160 let's just get to Thursday and just see what actually happens, right, Yeah, 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:55.679 all right, we're gonna take our first break when we 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.640 come back. We got some status updates. They did talk 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.399 about Michael Gallup. They also talked about Kelvin Joseph. We 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.080 want to hear what's going on with them and what 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.200 their thoughts are and where they are as far as 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.520 coming back, and Calvin Joseph in his situation that's going 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:08.919 on with the police. Will talk about that when we 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.960 come back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio at ATNC, 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.119 everyone new and existing customers get our best deals on 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.479 every smartphone. 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