1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Creature Feature with Katie gold that's that's staying in. I 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: think yeah, my new theme song gonna ditch the old one. 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Gonads man up about bats and bars and crews. Just 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: because Katie's right doesn't mean you were always wrong Creature Feature. 5 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Leaving of that in Welcome to Creature Feature production of 6 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. I'm your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. 7 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, and today on the 8 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: show a trio of tiny terrors and at the end 9 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: one humongous horror. And I'll let you decide if all 10 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: the tiny terrors formed a team could a defeat the 11 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: giant monster at the end of the podcast, discover this 12 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: more as we answer the angel question, are snakes forbidden? Spaghetti? 13 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: Joining me today are hosts of the podcast The Dogs Zone, 14 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: as well as One Hot Dog That's all Right, Sean 15 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Baby and Brockway. Have you guys ever heard of t 16 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: gandhi I? Uh? Is that the toxoplasmosis? Yes? Yes? Oh? 17 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Is that it's the toxoplasmos size like he said that 18 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: rules the world? Yes, And as we have talked about 19 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: on the show before, t GANDHIAI or toxoplasmosis can infect 20 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: rat brains that makes them unafraid of cats and possibly 21 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: even attracted to cats. So romance typically yeah, yeah, So 22 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: typically te Gandhi gays cycle goes like this, and it 23 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: infects a rats brain, it drives the rat to seek 24 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: out a cat, It gets eaten by the cat. Then 25 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Ti Gandhi I reproduces inside the cat's gut, winds up 26 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: in cats poop, and then it infects rats when rats 27 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: drink food or water contaminated by the cat poop. It 28 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: is quite a plan. It is an incredible plan. I 29 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: love it when a plan comes together. It's it's the 30 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Hannibal of cat parasites, and on a teeny tiny scale, 31 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: because they are actually unicellular protozoans under fifty micrometers small 32 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: and only visible under a microscope. So quite a quite 33 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: an extravagant mcgever situation for such a tiny thing that's 34 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: smarter than me. And I'm like four times that says 35 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: it's own and two species. I forgot to clack myself. 36 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: So researchers found that parts of the rat brain associated 37 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: with sexual behavior activate when the infected rats are exposed 38 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: to cat urine. So this makes rats look for cats, 39 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: hoping for love, and instead they get eaten, and then 40 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: the ti Gandhia can have like a couple's meat cute 41 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: inside of the cat's gut. Do um, rats king shame 42 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: because that's nasty. Yeah, that's a fetish stuff right there. 43 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I'm thinking this situation, kink shaming 44 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: probably saves lives. Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Let's kink 45 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: shame these rats, right, I mean, it's they are their 46 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: kink is literally too with some cat pea and get eaten, 47 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: So you need to be ashamed. What would your little 48 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: rat parents say they saw you just heffing cat pee 49 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: and trying to bank a cat? Yeah, I mean, you know, 50 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: that'd be an awkward funeral, awkward rat funeral, like, hey, 51 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: how did your rat son die? Oh? You know, like 52 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: a pervert. I've been to the human equivalent of that 53 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: too many times. But I'm not here to talk about 54 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: rats getting horny from cat p Weirdly enough, you brought 55 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: it up the show. Don't make it look like we're 56 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: the freaks. Come on, I don't know what. For whatever reason, 57 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: you guys come on my podcast and somehow we start 58 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: talking about cat pe and how rats get horny for it. 59 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how that happened. We will accept responsibility. 60 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: We know the kind of people we are. But yeah, 61 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: well you kind of you know, like it's sort of 62 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: like the Secret. You like, put things out into the 63 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: universe and you get horny rats and cat p back. Yeah, 64 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: that's the most chapter. Yeah, it's not in the Secret. 65 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: I skimmed it, but I think that was what it said. 66 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: But secret, all right, what I love it? Say it again, 67 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: Say it again. It's a secretive name at m my right. Okay, okay, 68 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: so when you make me repeated, no, but this is 69 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: part of the process. So what Brockway is referring to 70 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: is a nineteen ninety eight I'm going to say, uh, 71 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: sort of direct to video movie of a mouse who 72 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: had magical powers based on flowers and they and they 73 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: didn't that cat and they did have yes, they did 74 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: have relations with a cat in that movie. That's not 75 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: actually true. It's about a fun, magical mouse who saves 76 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: her family with magic. It's a beautiful little movie, highly underrated. 77 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: And what Brockaway was doing was making an allusion to 78 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: that movie in terms of what we were talking about, 79 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: which was the secret and rats and cat urine, which 80 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 1: was very clever and also ruined my precious childhood memories. 81 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: So a study has recently found that rats are not 82 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: the only victims of T. Gondi I. In fact, hyena 83 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: cubs seemed to be another victim of this tiny, weirdo protozoan. 84 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: Could this explain like Trump supporters, you know, it can 85 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: never make sense of them. Could it be uf cat? 86 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: Did Trump get elected by hyena cubs? It was a 87 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: close election by cat huffs. Definitely they were cat pe huffers, 88 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: no question, Alabama hyena cup got them. It's been like 89 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: what twelve months, six months since the election energy So, 90 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: hyena cubs infected with T. Gandhi I tended to approach 91 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: lions at a much closer distance than the uninfected and 92 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: these behaviors seemed to go away when they got a 93 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: little older, which maybe that the ones who survived and 94 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: didn't get eaten by lions learned that they might get 95 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: eaten by lions. But it's very strange because it seems 96 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: that this T. Condy I may be influencing the behavior 97 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: of something much larger, much more different than a rat, 98 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: a literal hyena cub, which I hate to burst everyone's 99 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: bubble who get all their information about lions and hyenas 100 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: from the Lion King. Lions as assholes they eat hyena babies. Well, 101 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: hyenas is that nature? Nature is an asshole? Right? Yeah? 102 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean hyenas would potentially eat a lion cub too. 103 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just saying, like the movie presented 104 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: this very one sided thing of like, oh, hyenas are evil, 105 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: but you know, Simba would be eating some hyena baby 106 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: while the hyenas trying to eat Nala or whatever. You 107 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just like the babies all 108 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: the time there, It's not w'd wake up with that 109 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: word hog and Mercat And he's like, you guys have 110 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: any zebra, which I always thought was like wow, that's yeah, yeah, Like, hey, 111 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: I recognize you guys are probably, you know, pretty related 112 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: to a zebra. You probably interact with zebras like your neighbors, 113 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: probably some zebra. Could I eat him? Can I eat 114 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: and eat your neighbor? Is what he was basically asking 115 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: when he was a child. Yeah. And so it gets 116 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: in a hyena cub, does it affect an older hyena? 117 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: Do they grow out? Of it, or is it just 118 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: like uh, generally, if you get it, you're almost certain 119 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: to be eaten and you don't grow out of it. 120 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Because of that reason, they do grow out of it, 121 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: but it's unclear why. If it has something to do 122 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: with the brain developing and changing such that the toxoplasmosis 123 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: doesn't affect anymore, or if it's purely through learning. So 124 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: maybe somehow learning overrides that inclination to get close to 125 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: a line because they learned, they get their your bitten 126 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: off or something and they get scared. Straight kind of 127 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: thing going on like that. They have kind of every 128 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: problem looks the same sort of thing, like toxoplasmosis gondae uh, 129 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: just kind of looks for a bigger cat, like that's 130 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: its only solution, bring you to a house cat, gonna 131 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: bring you to LINEA. In fact, it's something really big 132 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: this time. Where's the biggest cat? You know? Well, you 133 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: know that's interesting you bring that up because the reason 134 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: that TI Gandhia only reproduces inside cat guts is that 135 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: cats feelines, whether they're a house cat or a lion, 136 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: are the only mammal to have available linoleic acid inside 137 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: their intestines, which is an acid that T. Gandhia needs 138 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: in order to reach maturity and reproduce. So there is 139 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: a very specific reason that they love cat guts. But 140 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: who doesn't love cat guts? You know? Sure? I think 141 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: all biology should get together and decided to eat like 142 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: one thing, Like we all just eat Kelp and then 143 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: we won't have to like infect anyone's brains. I can't. 144 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: We all just live together bacteria, and then they only 145 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: need to infect the one thing to get us. Then 146 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: they just infect the help supply. It's like it's like 147 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: you don't know the succeedge warfare man. Yeah, you're right, 148 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: we can't trust these microbes. I do like the idea 149 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: of every living thing on the planet teaming up against KELP. 150 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: I kind of like that though, Yeah, yeah, you know. 151 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: It's it's like we thought it would take aliens to 152 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: unite us, not its Kelp. It's weird and slimy. I'm 153 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: gonna betray you guys so fast. I'm gonna go to Kelp, 154 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: like almost immediately. While it was previously thought that only 155 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: rodents such as mice and rats were driven by TI 156 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: Gandhia I to be ingested by cats. It turns out 157 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: that maybe hyena cubs are as well, which really opens 158 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: up a lot of possibilities such as how does this 159 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: alter human behavior? So I know that there's a lot 160 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: of kind of Internet chatter that maybe, you know, the 161 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: crazy cat lady trope is caused by t gandhi I, 162 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: where someone who's a cat hoarder is infected with it 163 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: and it makes them want to get more cats. There's 164 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: really no evidence of that, So there's like, has there 165 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: been researched? Donna have scientists said, like, dude, not gonna 166 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: prove these cat ladies are crazy for a reason you 167 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: found inconclusive results. No one has funded this research's been 168 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: so I think there's been some research on it. I 169 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: don't know if there's been any studies that have been 170 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: published that are specifically about cat ladies, but I don't 171 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: think whatever has been published has either been preliminary or 172 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: it's just really not pointing towards anything. But there is 173 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: research that shows just a tiny amount of evidence that 174 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: may indicate that people who are infected with toxoplasmosis may 175 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: take more risks such as reckless driving or starting a business. Okay, 176 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: it's the entrepreneur parasite. Yeah. Yeah, so the researches, I 177 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: hesitate to bring it up because of the research is 178 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: very threadbare, but it is super funny, So I am 179 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: going to do it. I'm going to bring it up. 180 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: Oh man, we we both did just absolutely wallow in 181 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: catch before we started Dog. As soon as we were done, 182 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: we were just, you know, let's start a business. Yeah. 183 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean if you like suddenly have like some great 184 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: idea for a business that you want to sink your 185 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: life savings into. Like did you clean a kidty box lately? Yeah? 186 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: All your best ideas happen while you while you're cleaning 187 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: them the litter box. Well, I didn't say they're good ideas, right, 188 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: but I think they could. Well, but that could be 189 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: you're affected with a brain paraside, though. I would be 190 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: lucky if it's just one. I'll take Do Do Do Do. 191 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: African Bush Cracket. I like their theme song. I'm on 192 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: board with them already. I hope they're not terrible. Would 193 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: incorporate PA. I have let me a interesting news for you. 194 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Here's a picture of one of these fellas. Sweet. Yeah, 195 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: that's the boss, the boss of all crickets. Yeah. Yeah, 196 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: so it's big it's kind of spiny. It looks kind 197 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: of like a gar puppet a little bit, you know, 198 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: it's got the spikes, or like an extra from Mad 199 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: Max scheme too. Yeah, sort of like a it's got 200 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: like a burnt umber and then sort of a shiny, 201 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: bluish black yeah. Yeah, yeah, classic. Yeah. Yeah. I've been 202 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: playing a lot of outer world's. Definitely looks like some 203 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: some outer worlds like Marauder armor for sure. So yeah, 204 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: this is the African bush cricket. And normally crickets are 205 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: not something terrifying. They're cute little guys who chirp and 206 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: jump around. But this guy kind of looks like an 207 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: hr Geiger concept for the alien movies. It's uh, you know, 208 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: it kind of looks like it's it's a scary I 209 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: bet when he rubs those legs together it plays Metallica. 210 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Before I go any, I was just doing the sound 211 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: fack for the next thing you were saying, thank you 212 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: is if the cricket was here with us, and then 213 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: Broccoli could be like, wait, I think he's I think 214 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: he's here, But yeah, I do want to mention before 215 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: I start getting angry letters from insect biologists. Cricket biologists 216 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: who are very vocal. They get mad if you insinuate 217 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: anything about crickets that is not true. These are not 218 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: really crickets. They are called bush crickets because they look 219 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: like a giant cricket um, but it's not a real cricket. 220 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: They are actually Katie Did's. So you know, I'm one 221 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: of those people who just find calling spiders bugs, you 222 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, yeah, like we have there's 223 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: like these stages of bug interest where like I'm not 224 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: as pedantic about it. So if they want to be 225 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: calling these Katie Did's, that's fine. I'm gonna call it 226 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: a cricket. Yeah it's look, you know, it looks like 227 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: a giant cricket. How can you fault someone for seeing 228 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: this giant cricket with spikes and then thinking like, oh, actually, 229 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a Katie Did you know, like I'd 230 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: beat out of my eye socket. Is that is Katie 231 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: short for Katie Did? It is? Actually yeah, I was 232 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: named after after Katie Did because Baby I was so 233 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: loud and annoying. So I guess we can get like 234 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: a personal reaction from you. If someone was to call 235 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: you cricket, would you be like, oh, hail no, or 236 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: would you be like, you know, that's fine. Uh, I've 237 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: never had it happen, and weirdly, this is the first 238 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: time it's happened, and it's filled me with just uncontrollable rage. Okay, 239 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: so maybe the right be These hypothetical bug nerds you 240 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: may have are right, and all we had to do 241 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: is just try to understand them exactly. Yeah, No, I 242 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: mean I actually was. When I was a kid, my 243 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: my parents called me Katie. Did's your nickname? Thank you? Yeah, 244 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: how are you right about that? You had no right 245 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: to be right about that? You know, you can't believe 246 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: you pulled it all. I ate a lot of cat turds, 247 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: and that gave me, like the the risk taking ability 248 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: to just make wild guesses about people's name origins reson 249 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: resonating with the hive mind inside us. All. Yeah, we're 250 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: definitely not saying on the show that if you eat 251 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: cat turns you'll get better at comedy. Wink wink, wink wink, 252 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: you will join the hive mind. And again, yes, it 253 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: gives you that edge you need. So armored African bush 254 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: crickets look like they're wearing alien armor. They grow up 255 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: to be about two inches long, which is sick two 256 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: inches Yeah. Yeah, it's a meaty it's a meaty thinging. 257 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: So it's like um, like a cocktail weener with legs, yeah, 258 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: medium size captured like a snack ca yeah yeah, yeah, 259 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: like a snack of captured. And they have a lot 260 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: of spikes, a lot of spikes like I like I 261 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: explained earlier. But if that's not enough, they have extremely 262 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: strong mandibles that are having a force to chew through carrion, 263 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: baby birds, and even each other when they decided to 264 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: be cannibals. Oh man, if I came across that thing 265 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: eating a baby bird, I would just I on even 266 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: think I would kill it. I would just run. I 267 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: would be sure that was going to mutate into something 268 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, grow some wings. That is pre horror monster 269 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: right there. That's when you're like, well, well what is 270 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: that thing? Let me get a closer look. There's something 271 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: about insects eating birds which does happen like praying mantis 272 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: is will sometimes rumming birds. There's something about it that 273 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: makes me deeply comfortable. It's true. It's a it's just 274 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: a gross thing, and I hate it. It feels like 275 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: something like a bird is out of your league. You know, 276 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: if you're an insect. Yeah, they'll have a tree lined 277 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: up with crickets. A shrike will just take them, stick 278 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: them on spikes and just leaving their phone to look at. 279 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: It's not even a yeah. I mean shrikes they do 280 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: kind of uh, they kind of deserve it. But you know, 281 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: hummingbirds don't. They don't impale anyone. They could too, they 282 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: got the beak for it, but they don't, that's true. 283 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Knock their feet all over the place to get the 284 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: whole place gets sticky, the whole outside, the hole outside sticky. 285 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: You're working really hard to play a play a insect 286 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: devil's advocate over there. That's I always feel like that's 287 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: the role I take. I don't know why a bug 288 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: lawyer trader sean baby bug lawyer. That was the plot 289 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: of B movie. Wasn't it that the be wanted to 290 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: be a lawyer? It sounds familiar, but I don't think 291 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: I've seen never said I did. I watched the movie. 292 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: I have an episode on B movie debunking B movie, 293 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: So I forgot what it's called, probably Scott the movie 294 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: in the title, but now it was as a bug 295 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: an animal enthusiasts. Do you find that pushing you to 296 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: watch terrible movies because they align with your interests? Yeah? Yeah, 297 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: I've definitely watched more than one terrible movie to kind 298 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: of address some of the misinformation about about insects in general. 299 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: B Movie was one of them. So was Ants with 300 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: the Z That was bad. Uh. I watched Boss Baby 301 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: because I thought I was going to do an episode 302 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: that involved Boss Baby. I don't want to explain it. 303 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, I have a lot of questions, but sorry, yeah, 304 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: that's fine, no follow up questions. I meant like, if 305 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: you saw a movie about, like, say, like a wolf 306 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: killing people, are you more likely to watch that than 307 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: a movie about a guy killing people? Uh, even though 308 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: it looks stupid. You're like, oh, because, like, because my 309 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: interest in animals compels me to watch more animal content. 310 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean it kind of depends. Maybe, I think, like 311 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: I definitely have a high higher tolerance for animals who 312 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: are bad actors than humans who are bad actors. You know, 313 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: It's like, I get it, except shrikes. Although speaking of 314 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: animal actors, that dog from the Thing was one of 315 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: the best actors in that movie. Like, I'm not it's 316 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: not a bit this isn't a bit. The way that 317 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: dogs like stared in the beginning was so chilling, and 318 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: that head spider was real good too. This is a bit. 319 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't actually think that the head spider was a 320 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: good actor. I think he was pretty good. The head 321 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: spider was really giving me like a lot of like uh, 322 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: Laurence Olivier, Okay, it was a little too for you. 323 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: So so these uh, these armored crickets are are pretty 324 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: serious business. Munching on baby birds, chewing on dead bodies, 325 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of extreme. But they go a step further. They 326 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: if I mean, like, if you are wild enough to 327 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: want to try to attack one of these things, first, 328 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: they will do stridulation, which is a very loud, buzzing 329 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: noise which should be enough to get you to back off. 330 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: But if that's not enough, you will be greeted with 331 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: a stream of toxic blood that the armored African bush 332 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: cricket squirts from its exoskeletal pores. Hell, yeah, alright, I'm 333 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: back on its side. That he would just like drain 334 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: himself of his own blood though, right, we have a 335 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: tactic to defeat him. You stick and move long enough 336 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: and he's just completely drained himself. Well, but you're getting 337 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: squirted in the eyes and mouth with disgusting, toxic blood. 338 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: Not if you're rolling, if you're doing a lot of 339 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: good rolls. Yeah, you'd have to, you'd have to do 340 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: a lot of roles. I think. Yeah, you've got dark 341 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: souls combat, you gotta just some are sault around him. 342 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: Keep some are saulting. Just Alley, you squirting all this blood. 343 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: You're watching his health bar go down, Like that's how 344 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: to get that Perry. So this is called auto hemorrhage. 345 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: And actually technically the blood of an insect is called 346 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: hemo lymph, So it is squirting toxic hamal lymph out 347 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: of its exoskeletal pores. And how many of these does names? 348 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: And I'm still I'm still planning, right, Yeah, I like that. 349 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: How much blood? How much? How much hamal lymph is 350 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: we're in an African bush cricket like pragmatically? How many 351 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: squorts does this guy have in in before? How many pumps? 352 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: Well are we measuring in metric or imperial? Just like cricket. Yeah, 353 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: he's pumped six times. Does he have any left in him? Yeah? 354 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say confidently, he's got six pumps yeah, simp cricket. 355 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to. Yeah. Uh do you qualify that 356 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: as and your expert opinion? Was that a good question 357 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: or a bad question? In my expert opinion, um, as 358 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: an expert on how much blood is inside an African 359 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: bush cricket, very good question that I'm able to expertly 360 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: answer because I definitely definitely know how much blood is 361 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: inside an African bush cricket. It's one of those things 362 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: I know definitely. If you had four paper towels folded 363 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: over themselves and you like smashed one of these things, 364 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: you need some more paper towels. That well, it depends 365 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: on the and Brawny gets one of these up right 366 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: up and just one ply, you know, one square. That's 367 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: what podcast read, brawny paper towels. That is the quality 368 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: engineering of brawny paper towels. How you land sponsorships? Yeah, 369 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: if you squash an African bush cricket and that slop 370 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: is getting all over your dining room table, just one square, Brawnie. 371 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: I wonder why Brawnie hasn't sponsored me yet, Viva boy 372 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: and I will not stand for this. Oh, come on, 373 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: we are are podcast is sponsored by the Secret of 374 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: nim sex wipes and so great secret of nim dude 375 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: wipes fleshable dude wipes, they're not fleshable. How many dude 376 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: wipes do you think you need after you get sprayed 377 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 1: by some toxic hemolymph by one of these fellers. Six? Yeah, 378 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: it's a six sex white cricket. It's a six white 379 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: crickets wipe, six wipe cricket. That's how they measure crickets 380 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: African bush crickets. How many wipes? That's a six wiper 381 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: right there? See that that's a six whip or big 382 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: big game cricket hunting. But you know, if a toxic 383 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: chemola streaming out at you from an angry, spiky, stridulating 384 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: bush cricket is not enough to get you to go away, 385 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: they will vomit at you as sort of a fine 386 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: like a little chef's kiss cherry on top. Parting gift 387 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: is that, No, I think he's eating some unidentifiable sort 388 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: of square of yellow lemon sorbet. He's like, sure, sure, 389 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: that's lemon sorbet, I'm sure it's not like some kind 390 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: of animal eyeball thing. Alright, that's a good segue to 391 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: the next one. That's a good segue to something not really, 392 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: but we do have to move on. Baby spiders eat snakes? 393 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: Do you guess? Did you know that it doesn't sound 394 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? I wouldn't have bet on that one. 395 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: It had to be a really small snake in a 396 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: really big spider. But in the underground flights, which I 397 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: certainly don't attend, I would not have laid my money. 398 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think would win? 399 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: A snake like a actual you know, snake snake, a um, 400 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: garter snake. Yeah, like a garter snake. Let's go with 401 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: let's go okay, all right, keep you know, keep it, 402 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: keep it, keep it in your pants. Let's go with 403 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: a scarlet snake, uh, and a black or brown widow, 404 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: Like who do you think? Who do you think is 405 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: coming out of that snake? Getting any weapons? Got like 406 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: little claws or anything we're gonna attach to. Nake gets 407 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: a gun but can't hold it because the trigger with 408 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: this little tail. Snake gets a snake gets no gun. No, 409 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said anything. I feel like it's just 410 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: that I had a ringer in this Like how do 411 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: they how do they fight? Like the snake has to 412 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: land a bite, but it's against a thing that it 413 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: can't hit, Whereas the spider has a chance to win, 414 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: but the snake. I think the snake leaves before any 415 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: bites get landed. The spider's hit box is very small, 416 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: very little bit unfair. Yeah, snakes are also just armored, 417 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: like that's what they are. Well, god, I say the snake, 418 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: even though you have clearly said that's not the case. Yeah, 419 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: I feel like we're setting up better. We both say snakes. 420 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: Snake wins. Every time snake wins, You fool, dumb stupid fools, 421 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: My money, my life savings, my god, how dumb you 422 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: are and how smart I am? Damn it. No, in fact, 423 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: the spider often wins in that circumstance. So a recent 424 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: paper was published in the Aerican Journal of our Acknology 425 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: called Spiders Versus Snakes Part six basically, honestly, honestly, not 426 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: that much of an exaggeration. New observation have shown that 427 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: spiders tend to have a much more colorful diet than 428 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: researchers have previous previously thought. Uh, and that includes snakes. 429 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: So this includes small snakes like blind snakes, which you 430 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: know it's that's understandable. They're they're like tight snakes. They 431 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: kind of look like earthworms. Sometimes they're so small, so 432 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, that's yeah, okay, that's technically baby 433 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: snakes again, kind of a little bit unfair. Uh. Spiders 434 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: also eat things like earthworms, velvet worms, which is very 435 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: sad because I love velvet worms. They're adorable, bristle worms, gastropods, crustaceans, bats, 436 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: small rodents, and small amphibians. Checking the like the stool 437 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: of these spiders, or they like watching them take out 438 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: a bat, watching them take them out. That's a pretty 439 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: good job. Yeah, yeah, you tell your boss like, yes, 440 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm late to work. You know, I was watching a 441 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: spider killer bat. It took him forty seven days to 442 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: do it. That'd be cool if your job was just 443 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: watching spiders kill stuff. That spider's got the size advantage 444 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: on that snake, I would say it does. But click 445 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: on click on that link, because they're definitely I don't read. 446 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: I don't have to read a lot of cat turns. 447 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: Who reads on the internet anymore. You just look at 448 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: the image and you make an assumption. There's a whole 449 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: gallery of spiders just challenging. Yeah, that second. That second 450 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: photo is like, that's the fight I was picturing, and 451 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: that is not the result I was picturing. So yes, listen, 452 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: that spider basically never has to eat like it again, 453 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: like that that's a hoarder. That's a hoarding spider. Yeah, yeah, 454 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: well gonna bunk her up. It's a costco run. Yeah no, 455 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: that's a that is like that is the giant bucket 456 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: of cheese puffs of the spider kingdom. I'll never get 457 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: through this, and then like to wait till like, holy god, damn, 458 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: I got through that just one binge watching of I 459 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: think you should leave and it's gone. Yeah. So thirty 460 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: species of spiders have been found to eat snakes. Uh, 461 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: Like we've mentioned, it is sometimes truly astonishing, like a 462 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: brown widow eating a scarlet snake many times her size. 463 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: So scarlet snake is kind of looks a lot like 464 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: a corn snake, same size basically, So that's just and 465 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: and you know, black widows and brown widows are kind 466 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: of scary for a spider, but they're still very small, 467 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: so it can eat something up to thirty times her 468 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: own body weight, and she does this by ensnaring the 469 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: snake in her extremely viscous and sticky web, and as 470 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: it gets stuck in that, she starts encasing it in 471 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: more threads and then bites it multiple times with her 472 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: potent neurotoxin. And once the snake is down for the count, 473 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: the brown widow or black widow will actually hoist her 474 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: prey up off the ground to eat, like she's holding 475 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: up a big old fish. But then she can just 476 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: kind of eat it at her leisure lounge it and 477 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 1: snack over. It's like a hammock and a snack. I know. 478 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: It's like a bed you can eat. They make like 479 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: a couch. How to cheese puffs perfect, It's like if 480 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: you could sleep on a giant hot dog. Yeah, well, 481 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: ye all right. Tarantula's also eat snakes, and they will 482 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: also the ones that have a toxic bite will use 483 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: their neurotoxin to immobilize the sneak long enough to eat it. 484 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes these spiders literally suck all its juices out, like 485 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: it's a go gurt. Just holds on one end and 486 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: just kind of sucks all sucks it out. Just Keg 487 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: stands that snake. Keg stands a snake, describing like the 488 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: eating habits of spiders is very much convincing of someone 489 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: that there is no God, I think, like and it's 490 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: I think the kind of person who could design a 491 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: spider and the way it captures its prey and eats 492 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: its prey is just a monster. Yeah, but what if 493 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: God is just all right? That would make a lot 494 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: of you know, I mean, just got the size wrong. 495 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: They were meant to be like bigger than humans and 496 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: rule the world. Yeah. Yeah, maybe heaven is for spiders 497 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: and this is sort of their purgatory, right, their trials 498 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: they have to kind of contend with, and those religious 499 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: makes a lot more sense through the lens of like 500 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: spider eyes. Yeah, exactly right. How does how does God 501 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: see everything at once? Just got a billion spider eyes? 502 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: Spider eyes spider eyes. Tarantulas have been found to kill 503 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: even pit vipers, so truly truly kind of a spider 504 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: David and Goliath situations here. Can't help but feel proud 505 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: of the spiders. I like at the at the very 506 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: end of this gallery, the scientists threw one to the 507 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: snake and showed the snake eating spider just just like 508 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: twenty nine images of snakes getting owned by spiders, and 509 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: then the very last one is a really just quack 510 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: eating grin on the snake, just like, yeah, there's a 511 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: picture of the research you're eating cat turns straight out 512 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: of the litter box a lot. I've got an idea 513 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: for a business. Spy is eating snakes emporium. Come on down, 514 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: a hundred percent deals on a hundred percent spiders eating snakes. 515 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: It's just come to me. So we talk about the 516 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: little things, the little little the little guys in life 517 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: that you may underestimate turn out to be terrifying. Uh, 518 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna switch it up and this time talking 519 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: about something that's big and scary. You know, no surprises, 520 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: no surprises. You know. Sometimes it's like I think a 521 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: lot of times on the show and like I'm going 522 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: to blow your mind, Like you wouldn't think this would 523 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: be scary, but it is. This time, I'm just gonna 524 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 1: play it straight with you guys. This is a big 525 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: old bear and it's terrifying. Sweet I look at a 526 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: big bear. Yeah, but it is all right. So you know, 527 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: bears are big, right, modern day bears they're big. They 528 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: absolutely can kill you. I think when I was on 529 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: your podcast, we talked about that pole where some people 530 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: thought they could fight a bear. She's absolutely not your 531 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: people on this planet. I think that they can beat 532 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: anything on this point. Yeah, they think they can beat 533 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: a bear. That's not true. I don't think anyone stands 534 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: a chance against Uh. I mean, if we're talking about 535 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: like a sun bear, like a little bear. Maybe, if 536 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about, you know, grizzly bear. I believe it 537 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: was specifically grizzly. It was Grizzly in the Grizzly Bear. Yeah, 538 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: no way, no, you're due. But we didn't always have 539 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: it this good, you know, with only certain death coming 540 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: from a grizzly bear. Uh. There used to be a 541 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: gigantic just completely nuts. I can't begin to describe. Well, 542 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: I guess I can here it is. It was called 543 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: a giant short faced bear, and it was the largest 544 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: carniver is mammalian apex predator to ever roam North America. 545 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: That is a lot of qualifications. Yeah, he's the largest 546 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: killer eighteen to thirty five in the women's division. P. 547 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: Ninety two. If you look at like a giant monster 548 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: bear and you're like, I'm gonna call it a short 549 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: faced bear, like you're you're digging on that bear, right, 550 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: You're just you're sticking it to him a little bit. Well, 551 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: all right, so I can simplify it a bit. It 552 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: is one of the largest carnivorous mammalians in the world, 553 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: and certainly the largest carnivore, uh carnivorous mammalian to ever 554 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: be in North America. But it's it's it's it's long dead, right, 555 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: Like I don't have to buy a bunker now, well, no, 556 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: but we did. It's not one of those things. Was like, 557 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: it died a long time ago. Humans never had to 558 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: deal with us. Our ancestors had to tangle with this 559 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 1: guy because it only went x dinked around eleven thousand 560 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: years ago, and humans were in North America at least 561 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand years ago. So we absolutely probably we're hunted 562 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: by these just absolutely nightmare massive eating machines. I would 563 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: have betrayed my own kind so fast inside of with 564 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: that bear. You would have gone bear. Yeah, yeah, it 565 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: would have gone team bear so quick. Dressed like a 566 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 1: beautiful bear woman, you who out with like a little 567 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: bow tie in here, because you know that's how that's 568 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: how you do it. Like you you dressed as a bear, 569 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: but you got like a little little pink bow behind 570 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: one of your ears works every time. Yeah, I'm on 571 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: that guy's side. Just the image, and I'm one of 572 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: those guys sitting behind with the bear. I'm I'm on 573 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: that team. Yeah, team of traders right there. I do 574 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: like I like this idea of this job interview you're 575 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: having with this big bear where it's like our teld 576 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: me about your qualifications and it's kind of salivating and measuring. 577 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm real and I don't have any love 578 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: from my fellow humans. I could get you. I don't know, 579 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: like three kids, three kids a day. Probably I'd say 580 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: I go, I go great with mustard eat me, and 581 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: then I would go a jump kick and that would 582 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 1: be my last decision. Jack knife in there. That's awesome. 583 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: D have You'd have a few sort of prehistoric legends 584 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: about you for everyone else. Tell everyone else in your 585 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 1: claim gets eaten. Yeah. Uh so, let's let's talk a 586 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: little bit about this bear. It weighed over one short 587 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: ton about two thousand reference to his face. Uh, are 588 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: you trying to dis this bear? Yeah? I feel like 589 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: the name of the bear is trying to diss the bear, 590 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: Like whoever named the first Well, it's called a short 591 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: faced barry guys, because it's it's face. It's got kind 592 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: of a shorter muggle than modern day bear. But that's 593 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: not the most remarkable thing this bear. I would have 594 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: called it the enormous monster bear. I like that when 595 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: you guys would have been getting eaten by this bear back, 596 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: you know, fourteen thousand years ago, and like it's got 597 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: your leg like in its mouth, bent at an impossible angle, 598 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: and you're like, like, your face is short, and it's like, 599 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: I could I have to do a lot of chew 600 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: in their buddy. Come on, stop it half your size 601 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: with faces twice as long. Are you kidding? I was 602 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: born those way. You guys are seriously not funny. Their 603 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: entire torso in its mouth. Yeah, so standing on its 604 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: hind legs, it reached up to twelve feet tall or 605 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 1: three point seven meters. When you look at these human 606 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: beings beside it. These are all adult men. Uh, they 607 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: get up about to the bears like thigh. I like that. 608 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: It's it's Paul is the size of all four of 609 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: their heads put together. That's a forehead. Paul. I could 610 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: just swipe off four heads at one. Yeah, I could 611 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: just like kind of grab four human heads and take 612 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: out a bunch of barbershop quartet just one fan. Have 613 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: you ever thought I'd get eaten by it? So if 614 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: you could do, like, if you could do spectacular dunks, 615 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: like if you can like put your elbow in the 616 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: rim like Vince Carter style, then you could when this 617 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: bear is reared up, jump up and like jam an 618 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: apple into his mouth or something. But I'm saying it 619 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: would take a spectacular like super dunker. He's got to 620 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: respect that movie. He's got faced guy in the face 621 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: while he's reared up. Yeah, yeah, you'd have to. I 622 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: don't even know how. Yeah, I think you have to 623 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: have one of the tallest basketball players in the world 624 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: with some of the best dunks to like dunka dunca 625 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: one of these giant, short faced bears in the mouth. Right, 626 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: maybe Tony Chock could kick him in the face. Like 627 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: you need to like do some sort of an acrobatic move. Yeah, 628 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, you just have handsprings to get speed going. 629 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: If you want to three guys Jackie Chan on each 630 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: other's shoulders, that's right, Jackie Chan could like run up. 631 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jackie Chan. Yeah, that's the only human actually 632 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: who could survive. This would be Jackie Chan little known fact, 633 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: little Loan. That's why their face is short, Ancient Jackie 634 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: Chan's that was striped in well, Jackie Chan has been 635 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: alive for you know, it's pretty since yeah, fourteen thousand years. 636 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: So thats so, so when it's like standing on its 637 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: hind legs, it is just ridiculously enormous. So you might 638 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: think like, okay, but that's not fair because these bears 639 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: are really bipedal. They walk on all fours most of 640 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: the time. Probably even when it's walking on all fours, 641 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: it's still six ft tall, it's still one point eight 642 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: meters tall. So when this bear is just like standing 643 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: bear style, it's still as tall as like a tall man. 644 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: It's pretty ridiculous. Yeah, no joke. Uh. And it also, oh, hey, 645 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: guess what could run up to forty miles per hour 646 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: seventy kilometers per hour, so it's great. So that's like 647 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: a five second dash. Yeah that's fast. Yeah, it's you know, 648 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: that's world record fast. Imagine driving your car forty miles 649 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: per hour, like you know, and then there's just a 650 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: bear just trotting alongside it, and it's the size of 651 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: your car. That's kind of the situation. Yeah, yeah, does 652 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: that mean they like if they ran full speed into 653 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: a tree though, like I mean they die right, Yeah, 654 00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: they'd wrap around that tree, saying tree, I think you'd 655 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: take out the tree. You'd probably take out the tree. 656 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: You want to do some roadrunner stout traps, You want 657 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: to paint a tunnel on a on a rock, that 658 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: type of thing. That's how you take out this bear. Yeah, 659 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: we're talking how we take out the bear because I 660 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: got a good plan. Let me hear it. The bear. Yeah, 661 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: you you immediately flip, all right, you go team bear 662 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: and you just you feed him kid. You feed him 663 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: so many kids. You feed him the best kids. Like 664 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: this guy cannot believe the quality of children that you 665 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: believe that you bring it for, like until until he's 666 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: just he's so fat with kids and he loves he 667 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: loves us. He trusted implicitly. Then you poison the last kid. 668 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: Oh how you do it? Yeah? I had kill a 669 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: bear with only seventy kids. That's a that's a really 670 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: h that's a great plan to have on record. Just 671 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: poison a bunch of kids, feed the bear one of 672 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: the other kids. Yeah, sorry, you only said what poison 673 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: one kid. I'm sorry, right, and you don't you don't 674 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: like you just bring him to the bear? You know, 675 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to kill them? Nothing wrong with me, 676 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 1: he's the murder right. This is like a trolley problem, 677 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: Like are you actually murdering the children if you just 678 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: bring him to a bear that will most certainly eat 679 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: them immediately? Just like people? Yeah, this is that. The 680 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: trolley problem is like do you divert the trolley from 681 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: one side the train tracks? Or do you just feed 682 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of people to a giant bear? You feed 683 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: a bunch of people, do a giant bear? Exactly? That's 684 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: what That's the clear moral choice. That's when philosophers still 685 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: talk about it because there's no clear right answer. I 686 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: think when I talk about big things, it's kind of 687 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 1: hard to get like perspective because it's just like, wow, 688 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: that's just like a big thing. Uh. Comparing Let's compare 689 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: it to like modern day current bears, because the largest 690 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: living bears are Kodiak bears and polar bears of Alaska 691 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: and the Arctic. Uh. Kodiak bears way up to only 692 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: a little over half of the giant short faced bear 693 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: and polar bears are still much smaller than the giant 694 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: short faced bears. Five hundred pounds smaller than the giant 695 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: short faced bears and polar bears. Standing on their hind legs, 696 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: uh kind of reach a maximum of only around three 697 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: ms or nine ft tall, So they are still three 698 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: feet shorter than a giant short faced bear. So they 699 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: would look like a cute little bear compared to this guy. 700 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: This is the shock of bears. It is. Yeah, it's 701 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: kind of maybe when you know nature was sort of 702 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 1: sorting things out fourteen thousand years ago, they're like, oh, well, 703 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: we'll put this guy in. It's kind of scary, and 704 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: it was just too scary. It was too scary to 705 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: stick stick around. Is that what happened that humans hunted 706 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: did because they were like so scared of it? Or 707 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: is it just too hard to eat when you're that big, 708 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: because that dude must eat like eight der a day. 709 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: I've seen theories that rain from humans potentially sometimes hunting them, 710 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: I guess in groups. I don't know how that worked, 711 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: but kids gotta gotta feed of kids just just put 712 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: like a tie a child onto a stick and then 713 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: hold it up to the bear. Well, from understanding the 714 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: extension of the mammoth properly, like their basic evolutionary goal 715 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: was to be so big nothing could hurt them. But 716 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: humans would get together in big groups and like rodeo, 717 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: murder him. And they, of course could murder a mammoth 718 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: in like a couple of hours, whereas a mammoth took 719 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: like eighteen months to gest date or whatever it took. 720 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: So obviously you do that bath long enough and there's 721 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 1: no more mammoths. Maybe that's the deal with this bear 722 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: because of it, one of these bears is pregnant for 723 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: like a good year and a half two years and 724 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: then during gestation probably shorter than an shorter than a mammoth, 725 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: because elephants have a really long gest station, and I 726 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: think bears have a much shorter gestation. So it's not 727 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: necessarily only size that the termons the length of gestation. 728 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: It's just the elephants, uh to have a pretty long one. 729 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: Putting myself in the mind of someone who lives near 730 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: this bear, and there's if they have the same hibernation 731 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: pattern his bear, I'm like, Okay, I'm waiting until it's 732 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: cold and then I'm gonna sneak into that bear's cave 733 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: and for sure murdering it. Like that's all I think 734 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: about all day long. People will be like, shut up 735 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: about the bear. I'm like, no, no, no no, buddy, We're 736 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna get this bear as soon as winter comes. I'd 737 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: obsess over it. And I feel like I'm not alone. 738 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: Your ancestors are the ones that did this. Your bear 739 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: obsessed to ancestors. You've got that gene. You can just 740 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: feel it right now. Let's see that. It's either we 741 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: do this now while let's just sleep, or he eats 742 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: a whole family later when he wakes up. Man, we 743 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: gotta we it's we gotta collect some berries. No, no, no, 744 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: we're drawn up plants. Bear plants. They planned for the bear. 745 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 1: We gotta fortifier berries. Yeah, it's There's also the theory 746 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: that these bears were killed off because of the ice 747 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: age and they just couldn't hack it, which, you know, 748 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 1: sort of funny to me that these big old jocks 749 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: just couldn't stand a little bit of cold. Yeah, too 750 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: cold for you, giant bear. Maybe your face was longer, 751 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: you could handle it. But now now the global warmings 752 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: here and we're warming back up, they get to come back. 753 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: That's how that works right. Probably one of these got 754 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 1: frozen in the black eyes and it's gonna thaw because 755 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: global warming. Bear's gonna pop out. It's gonna be alive somehow. 756 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: We're gonna clone it. We're gonna bringe. You know, why 757 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: why didn't Jurassic Park have more big giant mammals from 758 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: back in the day? Should have been should have been 759 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: the sequel? Yeah, the giantastic the giant like New Zealand 760 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: Australian eagle thing. Yeah, the moa been called for Assic Park. Guys, 761 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you heard me. I said fur as 762 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: sic Park, but you said we're not allowed to glick. Yeah, 763 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna click you on your own podet. Nobody knows 764 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: what clicking is on this podcast. It's well, they're going 765 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: to look it up. Well, I don't know, Phil, It's 766 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: as Katie Golden might put it. Jiminy Glick was a 767 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: character played by Martin Short years ago on his own 768 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 1: talk show called Jiminy Glick. And he would interview uh 769 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 1: celebrities and and he would sometimes go to it and 770 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 1: then he would talk like this, and then he would 771 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: talk like this when he found something delightful, right, and 772 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: what Sean Brockway do on their podcast is they use 773 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: that as a way to intimidate the guest when the 774 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: guest makes kind of a dumb joke, for a silly joke, 775 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's my way of letting someone know that 776 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: the thing they did was cute, but I don't know 777 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: how to engage with cute, So it's my defense mechanism. 778 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: It's a way of sort of bringing the conversation to 779 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 1: a screeching halt. Obviously, it's not for everybody, and Katie 780 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: has is carrying around a lot of hostilities from a 781 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 1: time my glicked turk, but I think it's perfectly accurate, 782 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: and that's what I love about it. Yeah, well, you know, 783 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: so now everybody knows. You can definitely catch more glicks 784 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: on Sean and Brockway's podcast. The Dog as the Zone. 785 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: That's how you pronounce it, right, Yes, that is proper pronunciation. 786 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: I wish more people would do it. Yeah, yeah, but 787 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: that's that's where you'll find all the glickable moments. The 788 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: Dog Zone. Nine thousands, you gotta you gotta add the 789 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: nine thousand. There's probably nine thousand. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, 790 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: we're yeah, well we're kind of at the end of 791 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: the episode. So it's time for plugs anyways. But before 792 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: we do go, what do you guys think if you know, 793 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: giant bear versus say we teamed up the T Gandhi 794 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: I snaking spiders and the you know, armored African bush crickets, 795 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: and you've got an army of those guys versus giant 796 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: bear ins If we got T. GANDHIA on our side, 797 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: then I think we could do it. We infect him 798 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: with it, and then he just really wants to go. 799 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: He'll find a bigger cat. I mean, we don't know, 800 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: he'll find a terribly stupid bear. Business just be ruined 801 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: and just completely throw his life away. You guys, listen. 802 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: It's a shirt that's also pants, says Big Johnson on it. Yeah, guys, 803 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: it really need you to buy one of these. I 804 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: got everything put into this. It's an energy drink, but 805 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,879 Speaker 1: it's also marrow wuana. We're listening all right now. I'm 806 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: back home, Team Bear. I hope the bear wins. I 807 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: if I'm picking the cause of my death, I'd rather 808 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: fight this bear than just a dystopian dark future or 809 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: a bunch of crickets squirting acid blood at me. I 810 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 1: do wonder if we reframe climate change and global warming 811 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: as a giant bear is coming to like our araces off. 812 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: You just call it bear weather. There will be a 813 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: giant bear that thaws. Yeah, there's at least seven or 814 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: these waiting to thaw. Approach and bear weather. It's almost 815 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: bare leather, you guys. We have to tackle this. Yeah, 816 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: it's almost bare times. The thaw in the Arctic is 817 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: getting to the point where under the perma frost, we're 818 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: going to find some of these bears and they're gonna, 819 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,439 Speaker 1: you know, come back the well rested, super hungry. Yeah. Yeah, 820 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 1: they're hungry, hungry bears. They're the size of like three 821 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: three dudes and uh probably actually more like five dudes, 822 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 1: and they're gonna start eating eating children that they're Brockway 823 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 1: and Sean is helpfully supplying to the bear. Just me, 824 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: just okay, nobody else still out on my team, me 825 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 1: against the world. All right, Well, you know im, but 826 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 1: I'm clearly going to betray you whoever is bringing the 827 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 1: free market, of whoever is bringing the bear the most children, 828 00:52:54,920 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: and that's what Well, no, I agree, I think t 829 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: Gandhia I probably probably would beat the bear just on 830 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 1: its own because they would be too busy halfing cat 831 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: cap p to do anything, you know, really heard self esteem? Yeah, 832 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: so funny, so funny. My face is like this and 833 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: I can't help it. I can't help with sniff capy 834 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: bear and sell. Well what better way to promote your podcast, 835 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: which is all about bear and cells than that? So? 836 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: So where can people find you? Guys? Oh, we are 837 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 1: available hot Dog. Yeah, and our podcast is The Dogs 838 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: h and um, yeah, I guess that's it. You have 839 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: a podcast, and you have a publication, an online publication 840 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: that has numerous interesting articles and and ways to divert 841 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: your attention in for hours on end. Yeah we run. 842 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: We run free ones every week if you just want 843 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 1: to go check them out the freeloader. But yeah, yeah 844 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 1: we do. We do have pay content that is just 845 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: far superior. Yeah, so goods what you get for not 846 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,439 Speaker 1: we're not paying the piper. We're just so funny every 847 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: day is the point? Not today? But well but this 848 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: is mainly yeah, that's yeah, yeah, it's I mean, you know, 849 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,760 Speaker 1: this is not a humor podcast. It's just it's about 850 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: big bears, and that's very serious. It's not nothing to 851 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:45,919 Speaker 1: laugh about, nothing to joke about about barren cells. It's 852 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: about barren cells. You can contact me well. 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