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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nor

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Speaker 1: with Jonathan Goldman. He's an international authority and pioneer in

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Speaker 1: the field of sound healing. Author of a number of books,

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Speaker 1: including Healing Sounds, The Seven Secrets of Sound, The Humming Effect.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan is the director of the Sound Healers Association, President

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Speaker 1: of Spirit Music in Boulder, Colorado. He has been named

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Speaker 1: as one of the Watkins Mind Body Spirit Magazines one

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Speaker 1: hundred most spiritually influencial living people, and tonight we're going

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Speaker 1: to be talking about healing sounds. Jonathan. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show. Geoy's great to be talking to you. Looking

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Speaker 1: forward to this, and it was great meeting you at

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Speaker 1: our Beyond Belief taping several months ago. I thought there

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Speaker 1: was an extraordinary session. Are you playing with those tuning forks?

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Speaker 1: I still have those tuning forks. I got through a

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Speaker 1: TSA easily with them, and it's great, great sounds that

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Speaker 1: you gave me, the great mega hurts. They were perfect

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Speaker 1: harmonically related, so they can talk about that way. We've

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Speaker 1: got three clips I'm going to play sometime this half

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Speaker 1: hour that I'm going to have you explained each one

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Speaker 1: before we go to these incredible sounds. But how did

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Speaker 1: you get started in this field of sound healing? The

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Speaker 1: bottom line, I was playing in a rock and roll

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Speaker 1: band in Cape Cod in Massachusetts. I came back from

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Speaker 1: a break. I looked out at the audience and realized

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Speaker 1: that the f I strapped on my guitar, that the

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Speaker 1: basically audience that had been imbibing an alcohol and ulsers

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Speaker 1: of other toxicans was really projecting in the ambiance of

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Speaker 1: negativity and violence. And I realized that the music that

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Speaker 1: I was creating at the time was not helping, you know,

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Speaker 1: a bait that negativity. And I thought, gee, I wonder

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Speaker 1: if music can be used to make people feel good?

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Speaker 1: And about a week later that shifted and became I

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Speaker 1: wonder if sound can be used to heal? Doors opened up?

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Speaker 1: And that was in the early nineteen eighties, if you like,

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine as a matter of fact. So it's

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Speaker 1: been over forty years since then, and life has been good,

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Speaker 1: and it's really an extraordinary, really interesting aspect that keeps

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Speaker 1: getting better and better. The Bible makes reference to sounds

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Speaker 1: knocking down walls and things like that, doesn't it? You bet? You?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Jericho joshua Is people go around.

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Speaker 1: On the seventh time they went around, they basically made sounds,

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Speaker 1: gave a great shout, and the walls came down. And

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Speaker 1: that basically is the concept of resonance. And you can

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Speaker 1: use resonance either to heal and transform or else chatter things.

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Speaker 1: There are some Jonathan that think that the Egyptians made

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Speaker 1: the pyramids by moving the blocks with some kind of

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Speaker 1: sound resonance as well. What do you think of that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think nowadays where we've got a little inkling of

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Speaker 1: that in terms of being able to use sound to

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Speaker 1: feel like levitate, ping, pound balls and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But I think back then the Egyptians and all these

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Speaker 1: other you know, ancient architectural structure is from you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you name it, and they've got giant stones.

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Speaker 1: How do they get moved there? The only sensible thing

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Speaker 1: is through some sort of means besides a lever pullice

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Speaker 1: system and most likely working with some sort of vibratory

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Speaker 1: feel that I'm going to suggest George that one of

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Speaker 1: the things is that there's an aspect of working with

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Speaker 1: sound to create and levitation. Actually they're talking about now

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Speaker 1: what are called phone arms, which are really, if you like,

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Speaker 1: quantum levels of sound that have the potential of actually

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Speaker 1: reversing gravity. But also one of the missing ingredients is

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Speaker 1: the importance of consciousness or intention being coded upon the sound.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Can you talk about two methods of using

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Speaker 1: sound to heal? What are they? Well, the first is

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Speaker 1: called psychoacoustics, and that is where the sound goes into

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Speaker 1: The other one is called vibro acoustics, and this is

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Speaker 1: where the sound goes into your body on a cell

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Speaker 1: your level, affecting you down to your molecules and your DNA.

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Speaker 1: And that's really really I feel like the big money

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Speaker 1: is going to be when they get into investigating sound

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Speaker 1: the way it should be, because here's a quote from

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Speaker 1: the New York Times sign section back in nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: so it's not new George. Sound shaped in the dazzling

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Speaker 1: tool can make break or rearrange molecular structure, and then

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Speaker 1: the tag is and levitate objects. So the idea of

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Speaker 1: using sound to literally rearrange molecular structure has been here

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Speaker 1: for a while. We're going to listen to these three soundclips.

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Speaker 1: Our first one is from Alex Simms. Tell us about him, Well,

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Speaker 1: Alec has been working with us at the Hearing Sounds

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Speaker 1: these harmonics are part of our natural vocal system. They're

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Speaker 1: found within all sounds, but particularly the most prominent in

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Speaker 1: our if you like vowels, and so what all Alec

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Speaker 1: He's singing one note and the other sounds that you're

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Speaker 1: hearing are the naturally created harmonics in his voice. All right, well,

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Speaker 1: it supposed to do to you? Well, a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: if you like George there, the color of sound. They're

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Speaker 1: the magical aspect of sound that for the most part,

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Speaker 1: by the ancients. The agients probably built their cathedrals there,

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Speaker 1: all sorts of different architecture, etc. And did sacred ceremony

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Speaker 1: the great gifts is to be able to include a

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Speaker 1: hundred minutes of different vocal excerpts that people can listen to,

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Speaker 1: because the big do is that you can read about

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Speaker 1: but a sound can be worth Encyclopedia. Absolutely. Our next

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Speaker 1: a door slamming. It's done in the cathedral. But you know, see,

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Speaker 1: by this person hitting one note and he's just generating

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Speaker 1: the melody with harmonics. And then we got after you listen,

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Speaker 1: all right, here we go. What created the amazing grace

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Speaker 1: certain global melodies, melodies that are found throughout the planet

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Speaker 1: you are working with vocal harmonics. It's really astounding, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: it's done by you, right, yes, it is. Here we go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: harmonic stound within my voices, I'm toning that one note, yep. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: because that is, if you like, a vowel oriented sequence

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Speaker 1: different traditions they talk about sound being able to do this.

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Speaker 1: how does these sounds heal somebody? How do they fix somebody?

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Speaker 1: sound literally, of course, restore their vibrational rate. The basic

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Speaker 1: about the latest edition and what it does, because it's

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Speaker 1: been around for a while, isn't it for thirty years? George?

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Speaker 1: been just wonderful. And this latest edition, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: it's got thirty excuse me, it's thirty years old, but

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Speaker 1: it's got a hundred minutes of audible downloads. And if

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Speaker 1: you can hear, hearing the sounds literally changes the way

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Speaker 1: that are so important because they're universal principles that were

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Speaker 1: well for them, didn't that. I do really think so.

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Speaker 1: And it's just I guess part of my purpose is

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Speaker 1: when I first created the book back in thirty years ago,

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Speaker 1: then somehow that disappeared. And I'm just here to trust

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Speaker 1: that we can actually open up levels of our consciousness

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Speaker 1: to It's like a new evolutionary state. I was first

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Speaker 1: But what does that sound do well them? If you like?

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Speaker 1: if you like, the original sound of creation. Although I

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Speaker 1: a book called The Humming Effect with my wife Andy,

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Speaker 1: and the hum and the home are very, very similar

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Speaker 1: are certain of the ancient Hindu scriptures that talk about

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Speaker 1: the humming of prana, and they had to give it

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Speaker 1: of being. It's pretty extraordinary. If somebody has let's say,

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Speaker 1: would sound healing fix that? Well? I have personally experienced

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Speaker 1: I think there are two aspects of that whole phenomena

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Speaker 1: acoustics bombarding off the tumor for example, right, Yes, so

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Speaker 1: I mean you know that's you know, actually there two

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Speaker 1: ways of doing it. Number one is to restore the

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Speaker 1: tumor disappears that way, And the other one would be

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Speaker 1: in science is doing this somewhat with ultrasound, where they're

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Speaker 1: literally easing ultrasound to if you like. I call it

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Speaker 1: the destructive use of sound or deconstructive where they're literally

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Speaker 1: or whatnot, can be pulverized with sound with sounds, so

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