WEBVTT - I Choose...A Brady Bunch Childhood Dream 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:09.280 You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everyone, 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.479 welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.079 the choices we make and where they lead us. I 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:20.040 have a really fun episode for you today. Something that 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:22.040 is so great about this podcast is that I get 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.080 to take you listeners with me for fun and interesting conversations. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.720 And today I choose to live out one of my 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:35.600 childhood dreams because you guys, I am recording this episode 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.680 at the Brady Bunch House. Yes, that's what I said, 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.760 The Brady Bunch House. My guest today is known for 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.640 playing the beloved Peter Brady and in recent years has 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.560 made appearances on shows like The Masked Singer and A 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.080 Very Brady Renovation. And outside of acting, he's also an 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.400 accomplished entrepreneur. Please welcome Chris Night to the podcast. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:58.520 Thank you very much. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.600 Oh my goodness, this is such an Are you tripping? 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:06.800 Well, yeah, I tripped here, I'm tripping. Yeah, you'll come 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:08.400 out of it eventually. 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:10.440 It's now real. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:17.360 So it is a trip, but not as as poignant 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.440 as it was when we first completed it. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.360 Because we're sitting here in this house that you all 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:26.080 have redone to look exactly like what was the set? 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.520 Right of the interior. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.080 Better than the set, as it turns out, because it's real. Now, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.199 this set was a pretend place. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.600 You know it is really no how I know. I 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.679 just went to the bathroom in your parents' bathroom. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:41.040 And that added toilet. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:41.839 It worked. 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.240 Yeah, and they work everywhere because essentially it's a real 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.240 Allison has to have an occupancy permit. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.040 Okay, well they I occupied. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:53.600 It couldn't faithfully replicate that part. No toilets. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:55.600 You know why we didn't have a toilet on the 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.560 show on the show because you weren't allowed to show 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.320 a toilet for nine nine o'clock. There was standards and 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.560 practices at the time, and actually that. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.240 Anybody was going to be wanting to use the toilet. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.520 The toilet, the toilet itself, It wasn't there. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.120 There's a tub, there's and there's something missing that's obvious. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:18.359 Article in every bathroom in all not that there was. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.880 But one bathroom that was really featured on the show. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.200 Wow, when did that change? Do you think because we 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:28.359 had toilets online? Or you want? Oh, good for you, Yeah, 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:29.880 we really will. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:31.760 We're built of different materials. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.680 Back in the sixties, they must have decided that toilets 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.119 are okay to show on prime time. 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.560 Is someone read through the manual and said, you know, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:41.560 we've got to update this. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:43.000 These are real people. 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.959 I don't know, you know, things, times changed things. I mean, 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.960 you know, do my podcast on our show. We're watching 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:51.880 the show for the first time in fifty years, and 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.160 it innocuous, is the Brady is. There's quite a few 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:56.680 episodes where we'd have to change some. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:57.280 Of the dialogue. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.480 I want to ask you a question about that. You're 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.960 watching the show from the very beginning. Is that something 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.720 that you had ever done before? Number have you ever 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.120 watched one full episode well when they. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:12.400 Were first on on Friday nights in primetime. Other than that, no, so. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.480 Kind of avoided it, you know, stumbling through the channels 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.960 and there it is. If it's Tevieland or whatnot, I 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.040 wouldn't watch it, you know. I don't watch my own work, 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.880 you know. And though it's you know, somewhere around forty 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.960 years afterward, it was distant enough to be able to 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.320 be watched objectively. I'm an adult and there's nothing there 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.480 for me, you know, as to consume. I didn't think 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.680 but in doing this house in the in the HGTV project, 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.800 it became apparent that so many people over the years 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.920 have driven down the street and taking photos of this 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:50.520 house that was sort of utilized to become the house, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.680 and that it could much to my surprise. Yeah, it 0:03:54.840 --> 0:04:02.080 now gives this tenth character an opportunity to exist in perpetuity. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.480 And Tina, who owns it, has been gracious enough to 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:11.560 allow well, podcasts like this to occur here, limited productions here, 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.880 and us access to the house. And it's very comforting 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.480 because it really was a special place, and you know, 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.160 it's just it's remarkable that it's still that we were 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.760 able to do it to this kind of detail, or 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:29.040 that HGTV kept at it so that this detail was 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:30.440 faithfully reproduced. 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.080 You said that the tripping would pass, but it hasn't 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:34.680 passed yet. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.360 I'm staring weeks or months. It's a couple of years now. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.040 I'm talking to Peter Brady. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.080 Guys, never left home. 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.920 No, I used to watch your show every day. I 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:50.480 lived on a farm way on the country and Illinois, Illinois, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.920 and I would come home down state upstate central central Illinois. Well, 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.080 I would sit right there in front of the big 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.480 TV with the wood around it, and. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.800 I would watch remote controllers. You have to turn you 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:03.840 had to actually get up, don't turn that die. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.719 I sat close enough to turn the dial like this. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:06.680 Well, of course we all did. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:07.839 That wasn't bad for my eyes. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.640 Right, I was supposed to, like, you don't watch television 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.240 like that because to do something to your teeth. I know, 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.240 it's a bunch of a bunch of wives tales, you know, 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.960 I think television or rot your brain, you know all. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.520 That's that's what my mom always said. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.360 Yeah, they were born in the same era. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.120 I think I connected with this show on such a 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.640 deep level because I was from a blended family, were you? 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.200 And if I'm not mistaken, I think The Brady Bunch 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.960 was one of the first shows, at least to my recollection, 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:38.360 that ever really spotlighted a blended family on television. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.200 Purposefully so because if you look at Sherwood, Sherwood had 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.320 two shows that are. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.600 You know, wildly popular, Gillian's Island in The Brady Bunch. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.200 He had a third that only lasted thirteen weeks. But 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.200 oddly I can still remember the theme song from which 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.440 is one of the things that Sherwood is very famous for. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.800 Theme songs. You can't forget, and that was it's about. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.960 Time, It's about time, it's about it's not in the 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.040 human race, And all three are the same premise, and 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.919 that is disparate people learning to get along, forced to 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:08.440 get along. 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:10.719 So on Gilligan's Island, they were forced because they were 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:11.520 stuck on the island. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:11.800 Yep. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.280 And it's about time, it's about space less only two 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.360 astronauts stuck in space. I don't know how that would 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.520 have lasted over years, but okay, being forced to get 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.080 along in a very small space. And then the Brady's 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.479 is this idea of new family being zippered together and 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.919 now watching it and getting caught up to where the 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:32.600 audience has. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:33.919 Been with it. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.400 It's clear what you know, the vision that Surewood had 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.279 on the show in those first two seasons, but those 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.679 you know, first twenty thirty shows are about a family 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:51.120 that is coming together and not easily being having but 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.000 then learning the benefits of getting along. And then by 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.800 the second or third year there's you know, there's never 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.839 any mention of you're not my sister ever, which probably 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.480 isn't real, but getting to that place is so important 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:12.920 because that really then is the family. When when when 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:14.600 It doesn't matter where. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.280 You're from, that you are my sister. 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.800 It was his and hers and it became ours. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.760 Well, there was a movie like that, His Heres and Hours, 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:25.239 His mine and ours. 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.280 Yeah, I was my My family was his hers, and 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.160 I was the Hours. So basically I was Tiger in 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:31.800 your family? 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:40.080 Were you part of Were you not the blend? Were 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.760 you the the the biological child was the blend? 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.280 You were the biological child of the two that had 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.160 his and hers, So they came together and then they. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.640 Had so you were the Yeah, you're the next evolution 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.239 of what we were. You would have been Oliver born 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:54.280 to Carolyn. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:56.120 Forgot about all. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.000 That's a whole flip on that because he wasn't. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.600 So he's the inside out version of you. 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:01.880 He's the cousin though. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.640 The cousin that wasn't even part of wasn't even on 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:05.640 the radar screen. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:08.800 Oh my god. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.200 Yeah, I mean a cherub found on the street. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.320 I think that that's what's so cool, because I know, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.080 being on a show in the nineties, your show really 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.720 represented the seventies, and being on a show that represented 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:24.480 the nineties, you're sort of forever frozen in people's minds 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:29.120 as a certain image, you know, like, I'm sure people 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:30.760 look at you and stare at you the way I'm 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.400 steering at you right now with that look of like 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.640 I can't believe what I'm seeing. And I know, people 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:40.600 it's weird. I'm tripping out because I'm I'm experiencing it. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.880 I'm doing it to you, but I've experienced. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:44.880 It as you, so you're doing it to me, but 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:46.240 seeing yourself do it to me. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.839 Yes, that's deep. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.080 Yeah, yeah, I feel like I should have a doctorate 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:53.960 psychology to. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:54.719 Be here, right. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.000 But how does that? I mean, I know how I've 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.760 dealt with it over the years, and what a role 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.559 my show and the significance of my show played in 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.240 my life. What would what is the significance that the 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.400 Brady Bunch played in your life? Like overall, would you 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:11.880 say pretty significant? 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:17.360 I mean, it's pretty much unlike your show's where you 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.319 sort of became an adult, a young adult before the 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.800 intersection of that celebrity, we were kids. I mean those 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:31.880 formatal years you were ten, tended to the pilot just 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.080 just about eleven, and then eleven twelve in the first season, 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.120 but then ended at sixteen, so you know, kind of 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:39.280 all that kind. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:40.480 Of childhood years. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:45.040 Yes, yeah, so you're forming yourself. You know, you're forming 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.760 an idea self. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.480 Do you think it's a realistic when you're in that bubble, 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.360 do you think that who you're forming is a realistic Well? 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.520 I think in my case it was very helpful because 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:01.840 it wasn't it offered exactly what the show people watching it, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:03.520 But for me it was in three D. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:04.560 It was around me. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.240 I mean it was more than just assumed through the script. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.640 It was lived in this environment. It's a really wholesome environment. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.760 And I do laugh at it because it's not exactly 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.800 I wouldn't if I had kids, I would try to 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.440 keep them away from show business until the're eighteen. I 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.640 don't think there's any success of consequence to anybody in 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.920 this industry, you know, as a child, that will help 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.200 as an adult, and the chances of you falling apart 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.240 in the process making that leap. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:33.400 Let me do it. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.760 Either way, you successful as a kid, being successful as 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.280 an adult, you know, is difficult because you're going to 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.200 have to it's a whole different person then, and no 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.200 success leaves you then with what. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.480 So either way you're kind of setting yourself up. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.840 And isn't that your parents' job to work, not you, 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.520 because having a childhood. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.199 Is why did you work as a child. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.560 Well, because my dad was an actor and he had 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.319 access to getting us agents, and my brother who's a 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.840 year older, thirteen months older, we got an agent at 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.240 the same time. I was seven, he was eight. I 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.600 immediately started working, much to my mom's surprise, because she 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.520 thought he was the outgoing one. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:14.400 I was the interviewed one. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.520 He had no idea what went on inside that room, right, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.520 because moms don't go in the room with you when 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.480 you're going on your interview, and we didn't go in together. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.480 You know, we were just so close in age that 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.040 we would be up for the same commercial together. I 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.880 got the first interview, at the third interview and just 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.160 kept working and. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:30.560 He never did. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.840 And she thought he would be the one working because 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.680 of her relationship, you know, with him and his outgoingness 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:42.719 in my quiet, you know, reserved sort of so and 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:48.800 self wasn't anything she thought would sell inside of a room, 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.160 and so she was quite surprised. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:51.880 I didn't learn about that until I was an adult. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:53.559 What was your secret? What'd you do in that room? 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:54.200 I don't know, I don't know. 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.160 I mean, I think what I did is I is 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:00.400 I lit up because in my environment it was hard 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.679 to even you know, take a breath. And so this 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.920 is what the Brady's provided, you know, the stuff that 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.360 I wasn't getting. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:10.880 Similarly, in that room, I. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:15.080 Was getting stuff I wasn't getting because of the environment. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:16.800 I had an older brother, you know, pecking order being 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.840 what it was. Who you know, he even laughs at it. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.719 I was literally trying to kill me when we were 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.400 one and two and and and I guess it's not 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.680 unusual or impossible when when you live in a in 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:37.680 an environment that is chaotic and and and not not abundant, 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.239 when survival is palpable. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.840 You know, my dad even said. 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.640 To me at one point, or told my mom when 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.960 because he's an actor, an unemployed actor raising two kids 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:51.920 in New York City, it was like, you know, there's 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.480 not a we don't have enough milk to feed the kids, 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:55.720 he said, feed him every other day. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.080 His environment from the old world. I mean, it's like 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.520 not all, not all your kids lived. That was his. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:09.640 Mindset might be. You know, he had a brother, didn't 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.520 that that didn't make it. You know, it's like a 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.520 lot of it's really a jungle law. You know, a 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.000 lot of the Fittest Survival of Fittest. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.959 And so Brady's is not that. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.760 Brady's probably was an extension again of that interview, which 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.840 is if somebody's asking me my uh, asking me questions, 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.679 asking me about something that doesn't. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:32.080 Happen at home. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.760 At home, it's that you talk to and you know 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.520 you're just in the way, and and so you kind 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.640 of receid. You know, you don't want to buck that. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.400 So been an interview all of a sudden you can 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.800 come out. So that's probably where that began. And then 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.560 here I really felt it. I mean, I remember one 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:53.160 episode Bob redirected and we were very inexpensive show, and 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:54.960 you got six of us, and so we got a 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:55.680 director coming in. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:56.760 He's going to do. 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.600 This scene with six of us, and you know, maybe 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.680 seven eight of us in the scene. So you three 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.559 stand there, you come up, you stand here, and we'll 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.880 do the scene like the static. So nothing organic about it. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.480 But he's trying to get done by the end of 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:08.960 the day, and how else are you going to block 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:09.360 this thing? 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.080 And then here's Bob read first thing in the morning. 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.760 It's a show that you know, I'm featured in and 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.520 he says, so, how do you see this blocking work? 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.760 How do you see this work? And it was like, wow, 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:24.480 I'm valued. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.480 I have an idea, but no one's ever asked me 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.720 my idea to that degree before. And that's where that developed, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.080 you know, And that probably wouldn't have happened at home 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:39.040 until I did it for myself at some in some 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:44.000 rebellious kind of way, and so it shaped me. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.920 It shaped me, and it gave me an idea of 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.120 how family can be cooperative. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.480 My mom was dead set against even believing that families could. 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:57.880 Be really Yeah, so it sounds like, much like myself, 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.600 you found the Brady Bunch sort of like a safe space, 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:02.320 a sanctuary. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.280 Yeah, And I didn't know how safe it wasn't until 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:07.320 you know, it was gone. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:08.480 And then when I was an adult. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.280 At that point, I was sixteen, but I realized that 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.000 the space that I was left in at like at home, 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.400 it's like, I need to escape this so that I 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.640 can go make something closer to that for myself. 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.760 That's that's a really interesting story. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.720 It's like, and my mom and I we'd have I mean, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.760 it wasn't like we were close friends when she passed away, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.200 but because we discussed it all. You know that she 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.520 had different ideas based on her experiences in life and 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.440 the hardships that she was under and the you know, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:42.240 the difficulties that were day to day confronting her. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.960 And she did the best that she could. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:49.040 But the result of that was these reverberations were you know, 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.280 a need to create something different. 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:52.880 Did your mom go to work with you? 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.560 Yeah? Since you were, she gave me every day. And 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.720 I mean, I have a brother seven years younger. I'm eleven. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.640 Did he come who was? No? 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.600 He's left home with my sister who's three years younger. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.840 So it's like, you know, she's he's been raised by 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:10.720 a seven year old. 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:11.360 Wow. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.960 Yeah, And I you know, I didn't get to witness that, 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.240 but you know, talking to my sister and you know, 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.200 you know, that's tough. And that's why when when friends say, oh, 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.680 my kid is so cute, he should be in show business, 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.840 And I said, do you realize what would happen if, like, say, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.160 they live in Ohio and they want to come out 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.880 for pilot season again, a pilot they you know, you're. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.080 Successful, What about the other kids? Where are you going 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.960 to live? What do you do to the family, and. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.040 You shouldn't me work for you know, and support your 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.640 kids and then let them do what they want. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:44.200 At eighteen. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.600 I became emancipated when I started working. I think I 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:55.280 was sixteen. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.080 So you can't get a massipated earlier than that, right, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.000 I think sixteen is when you first can be it. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.080 I believe so. And so you could drive, I could drive. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.399 I drove myself. I went to work just like an adult, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:06.400 like I didn't have my mom. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.200 Barry got himself emancipated because for a time my mom 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.480 would be on set and his mom wouldn't, and she 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.960 would be his guardian for that day until he got emancipated. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:17.760 His mom was there mostly in the first year. I 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.440 think that was the second year, because he didn't really 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.760 need or want his mom around, but he legally was 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.480 needed to have someone there looking, an adult looking after 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:27.120 him and. 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:27.920 Till that happened. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.960 Did they sequester the parents away from the set. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:34.160 Oh no, They were very much part of the entire program, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:39.200 because True's idea was that we first he wanted you know, 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:45.159 I don't know how much he actually took in to 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:49.480 account parents when he was casting us, but I'm sure 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:54.560 he had some I out for that. He didn't want actors. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.840 He wanted kids to kid act. So he wanted kids, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:04.040 he wanted he wanted people that they were people first, 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:09.879 person persons first before actors. And I'm sure part of 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.840 that process and looking for that was not just what 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.280 he got from the interview in the room, but somewhere 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.280 along the way there must have been. But it is 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.679 tough because you're not interviewing parents, right, So how do 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.919 you know what you're getting with the parents? 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.960 Are like, So, yeah, that's a tough question. I've really 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:25.600 not thought about it. 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.439 He couldn't have known too much about how the parents 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:32.359 worked out, and luckily it worked out. You know, we 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.639 had distinctly different kind of parents like Marine's. She lived 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.280 not too far away, but her mom couldn't drive. Her 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.399 dad was a school teacher, so and she was the youngest. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.000 In her family. Her brother's rolders. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.679 She had one brother whose special needs mom had some 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:49.960 eye condition tunnel vision or something. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:51.959 So you couldn't drive, We drove. We drove them. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.520 I mean that gave me an extra couple hours every 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:59.000 day to be like a quasi brother some Marine growing 0:18:59.080 --> 0:18:59.960 up in the back of a car. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.280 But it worked. I mean, the parents weren't the typical 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.919 None of them were the typical set parents. 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.280 Set parents, or you know, pushy kind of like this. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.640 Was also at the stage was it was an ensemble. 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.680 Now we're at times it would just it would show 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.520 itself in defense of those things that were important to 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:24.320 that person, like Eve's hair. She had this incredibly long, 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.720 gorgeous hair, but to keep it like that required a 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:31.720 lot of brushing. Mom was constantly brushing and brushing because 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.960 it wasn't I mean again, light lightly budgeted. Wasn't like 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.760 we had an abundance of hair and makeup people so 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.720 that they were probably you know, giving it a couple 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.160