1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Ron An, Indian. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 2: You have to destroy tire pressure sensors when you're going 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: with droll a hole a crush men advice, beat on them. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: You know, whatever you gotta do. It's it's you can't 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: leave it active because it does have a potential. Great 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: to call the car doctor. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: My OUTI twenty fifteen has a turbo in it, and 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: I've got this little nanny cam in it where it 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: says avoid warming of engine while stationary, go ahead and 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: drive it immediately. 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: I like warming things though, I just do you know 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: the environmentalists will think I'm crazy. 13 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor. 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 17 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 19 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: take your call at eight five five five ninety nine 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: hundred and now he. 21 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Running. 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: I want to talk about quinchal failure or maybe progressive failure. 23 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: I want to talk about when you leave that check 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 2: engine light on and you just it's okay. The truck 25 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: still runs. The car still runs. There's nothing really wrong 26 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: with it. I want to talk about the long term consequences. 27 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: You're really kind of digging a hole and you're creating 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 2: a problem that you may not be able to climb 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: out of. You're going down the rabbit hole, and you've 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: got to be ready for the rod twenty fourteen jeep 31 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: wranglers in the shop right now. The owner kind of 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: let it go. He you know, has probably been on 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: a year. I think it's not about fifteen months. It's 34 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: been on a while, and ran good. He knew what 35 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: the fault codes were was one was related to thermostat rationality. 36 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: I think every jeep is. I think that's designed into 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: it at the factory, the P zero one twenty eight 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: where they have a thermostabt fault or a failure and 39 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: you know, and actually it's it's it's actually a reasonable code. 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: I have seen that rationality fault set when a thermost 41 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: debt is as little as four degrees off its base mark. 42 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: And I think that's important. It shows you how precise 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: and how critical and how surgical the approach to fuel 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: system management is today, because based on engine temperature will 45 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: dictate and predicate you know, how they're going to run 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: enrichment through the injectors and such. So I think it's 47 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: actually a great fault code and usually at least to 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: a thermostat. It did in this case it required a thermostat. 49 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: But it was the other fault. It had a fault 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: code for the oil pressure sender circuit. It had set 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: a fault for that. It set a fault for an 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: two censor issue, I believe on the right side, and 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: it was setting a random P zero three hundred misfire issue. 54 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: And all of this started, you know, it started fifteen 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: months ago with the oil pressure sender circuit fault. That's 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: what turned on the check engine light initially, and it 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: was a question of time and money and when will 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: they get to it and when will they leave it? 59 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: You know, And now it grew into three or four 60 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: other conditions, and we don't know how many more are 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: coming because the problem is when you drive it vehicle 62 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: with a check engine light on, other things go bad, 63 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: just like this, right It developed more problems over time, 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: and it didn't happen right away. 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: You know. 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: It was based on mileage and age. They kept driving 67 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: it more mileage. And you've got to understand too, that 68 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: in some situations, some fault codes put more of a 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: strain on the engine to drive train the operating strategy, 70 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: and you know, it wears them out. It's like carrying 71 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: a knapsack filled with rocks when you don't have to. 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: You can do it. You're big and strong, but it 73 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: does wear you out faster than it needs to, and 74 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: it's an unnecessary exertion of energy. Cars are the same way. 75 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: So we did a thermostat. We did the oil filter switch. 76 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: We actually did an oil filter housing. The oil filter 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: housing on jeeps, the V six is where the oil 78 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: filter sits under the intake plantum always leaks. That plastic 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: housing is just it's an atrocity, and you know, of 80 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: course we replaced it. There's a nice aluminum housing set 81 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: up from the folks over at Dorman Dorman Products dot 82 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: com that allows replacement of the housing with something made 83 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: out of metal. It's an aluminum housing. It's a much 84 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 2: better grade of quality than plastic. We think the plastic 85 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: ones just continue to leak. 86 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: We changed that. 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: We put switches in it, obviously, and we changed the housing. 88 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: I should point this out primarily because you know it 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: was also starting to leak, which they do all right. 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: So it had two steps, two problems there, so two 91 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: steps we were you know fixed, So we got that 92 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: off the shelf. With regards to the misfire fault, it's 93 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: hard to diagnose something if it's not coming up to 94 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: temperature and it's not going into closed loop correctly. So 95 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: we did some basic mechanical things as far as relative compression. 96 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: It passed a relative cranking compression test. And while we 97 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: had the intake plan them off because you have to 98 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: take you know, when I say we did an oil 99 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: filter housing on a jeep, I think this was the 100 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: three six You know, this isn't four bolts and it 101 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: drops on. This is you know, half a day spent 102 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: on your knees leaning over an engine, you know, trying 103 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: to remove the upper and lower intake plant them down 104 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: to get down into the belly of the beast, so 105 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: to speak. And while it was a part, we pulled plugs. 106 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: Here's a vehicle with about sixty five thousand miles on 107 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: it and the plugs were smoked. And you know, you 108 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: say to yourself, why is that. Well, you know, here 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: in New Jersey we have this thing called traffic, which 110 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: is you know, usually created by the idiots on the 111 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: road that don't know how to drive, and that's what 112 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: they are. 113 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 4: And I'll say it just like that, and. 114 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: Tom's nodding his head in an appreciative manner because Tom 115 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: sees it quite a bit of this in his road trips, 116 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: you know. So it's yeah, everybody. You ever notice how 117 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: everybody everybody else is always the one that drives bad. 118 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: I never drive bad. Tom never drives bad. But regardless anyway, 119 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: you know, traffic does that. And the operating environment again, 120 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: operating environment did plugs, did coils? Put it all back together, 121 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: ran great, runs great. The fault that we're there are gone. 122 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: We never addressed the two fault because we didn't get 123 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: a clear beat or a clear read on it, and 124 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: it wasn't related to anything we were doing. In terms 125 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: of proximity of repair. I always liked that phrase, proximity 126 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: of repair. You've got it apart. Do plugs and coils. 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: It's ten years old. You've got it apart. Do an 128 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: oil filter housing it was seeping anyway, you've got it apart. 129 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: Obviously you're going to do the oil pressure switch, switch 130 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: and sending units. You know you're going to do a 131 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: thermostat you're going to replace coolant, which we did. We 132 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: did all those things. Now we've got a P two 133 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: zero ninety nine, which is related to an imbalance in 134 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: air fuel mixture in the way it reads. Now we're 135 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: still in the midst of our diagnosis. We see nothing 136 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: that could possibly have been left off. We see a 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: problem in that it won't run its O two cents 138 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: or monitor, so it may come back to O two's 139 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: but it's reporting the issue on the left side of 140 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: the engine, and we have to do a deeper dive 141 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: and understand why that is. And that's what we're going 142 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: to do next. And my point becomes that, yeah, there's 143 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: there's trips down the rabbit hole that can be avoided. 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: There are ways to avoid the bigger expense and the 145 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: bigger repair by getting things done as they fail. It 146 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: makes it easier for the technician, It makes it easier 147 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: for your pocketbook. You may not like it, it may 148 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: be an expensive year, but hey, what I always tell you, right, 149 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: cars are it's it's one hundred and fifty to Now 150 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: I think it's one hundred and fifty to one hundred 151 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: seventy five dollars a month. I was reading a report 152 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: from Triple A the other day. And the overhead cost 153 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: and the operating cost of a vehicle has increased dramatically 154 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: about thirty percent in the last three years. And you know, 155 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: like everything else has gone up. Heck, I went to 156 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: home depot this morning and bought a ninety dollars garbage can. 157 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: When did garbage become worth a ninety dollars garbage can? 158 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: I So you know, as as goes everything else, so 159 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: everything else goes up. So just take from this opening 160 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: conversation here, just understand that if you are driving around 161 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: with your check engine light on, you know, you know, 162 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: you may be saying, well, I don't have to worry 163 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: about this un till I go through state inspection. That's 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: not the idea. All right, it's going to be more costly. 165 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: And don't think you're going to drop it off the 166 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: last friday of the month that your vehicle is due 167 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: for inspection and it's going to get resolved that day. 168 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: All right, you can make the appointment, but it can 169 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: be it can take some time. It can take like 170 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: now we're going to start driving this jeep and watch 171 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: and diagnose the two zero ninety nine and see how 172 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: does the fault occur, When does it occur? Under what conditions? 173 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna be looking at mode six. We're gonna now 174 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: we've got to go do a deep dive to understand 175 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: all this, and it's going to take time, so it 176 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: may not be something as quick as you think that 177 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna that's gonna rail its way through and get 178 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: solved one two three. So just just just just saying, 179 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: you know, we're starting a new year soon, and let's 180 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: get into some better habits if you're not already of 181 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: doing better maintenance. And I'm taking better care of the vehicle. 182 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: So eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero, 183 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: we pull over, take this puse. When we come back, 184 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: we'll get going. I'm Ron on Any in the car doctor, 185 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: don't go anywhere. You'll have done. 186 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: What's more fun than listening to Ron and Any in 187 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: the car doctor and getting that car fixed? 188 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: Right? 189 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 190 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: Give Ron a call now back to Ron. Hey, hey, 191 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: welcome back. We're in the car doctor. By the way, 192 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: we are live and in living color. As Tom Ray 193 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: would say, this weekend here in New Year's weekend at 194 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 195 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: I'll do it again eight five five five six zero 196 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. So give us a call if 197 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: you've got a car question or a problem. Let's see where 198 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: are we. Let's do this Good morning, Ron, piece of email. 199 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: I listen to your show mostly on podcasts. We live 200 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: in Maine. WVOM one O three point nine carries your 201 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: show and they have for a long time. 202 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 4: We appreciate that. 203 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: We recently had some major windstorms here and I worked 204 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: for the utility, so I was away from home. Yeah, 205 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 2: Maine just went through some really crazy weather, right, and 206 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: I think Maine was in the news for this because 207 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: it affected their decision about mandating evs at some level. 208 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: And that whole thing is sliding down the pole again. 209 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: So we originally had some major storms. My college aged 210 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: daughter drives a twenty seventeen four Escape with a two leader. 211 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: She calls the check engine like him on, the car 212 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: was running real love. She immediately pulled over, shut the 213 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: engine off, and then called me. We had a toe 214 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: to a small independent garage about two miles from us 215 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: as our shop couldn't accept the car. So the news 216 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: shop was great. He took the time to explain what 217 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: he found and why he couldn't make the repairs very 218 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: helpful since I was not home and not readily accessible 219 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: to do the work. He diagnosed a misfire on cylinder three. 220 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: He swapped coils no fix. Did a compression test on 221 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: three found one hundred and fifty PSI. So he suspects 222 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: faulty injector, which he doesn't have the tooling for you. 223 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: There's some special tooling for the seals, everything special tooling today. 224 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: Matter of fact, if you come into the shop anytime soon, 225 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: you're going to see there is a valve spring compressor 226 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: tool for a four to six modular motor for a 227 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: Ford from the early late nineties. I forget when it 228 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: was one hundred and eighty six dollars tool that I 229 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: think we used once and I just decided to put 230 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: it on the counter. The other week. It came across 231 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: in a toolbox and I said, you know, let's leave 232 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: it out here. Show people the real expensive auto repair. 233 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: How you buy these special tools that you absolutely positively 234 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: have to have. In some cases, use them once and then 235 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: you throw them away or they become paper weights. So 236 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: in this case, it's going to become a presentation on 237 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: the counter. Going back to Tom's email, so called our regular garage. 238 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't have the tooling either. So the called the 239 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: local Ford dealer and spoke to a service writer and 240 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: ran through it. The other shop A diagnosed, not holding 241 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: the dealer to diagnose. I get it, but he said, 242 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: depending on the engine he has seen that it might 243 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: not be the injector but coolant intrusion. I'm trying to 244 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: get educated and not walk in blind. Would not the 245 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: compression test give a direction that way or no, can't 246 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 2: get it. Can't get it to an appointment at the 247 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: dealer until the twenty fifth of January. So trying to 248 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: educate myself. Thanks for information. I apologize my schedule doesn't 249 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: allow me to call it, which is why I'm doing 250 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: it here. The cars one hundred and eighteen thousand miles 251 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: and known. We purchased it with eighty regular service every 252 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: three to five thousand, minor oil changes. 253 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: Tom up in Maine, you. 254 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: Know, Tom. Yeah, the two leaders that generation had a 255 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: problem with porosity of the cylinder head and head gasket failure, 256 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 2: and they also had deck problems, and it was it 257 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: was predominant. It was more on the one point five 258 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: leaders that they had the issue. But it extended into 259 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: the two leaders as well. As a matter of fact, 260 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: we actually had a few customers that drive these. I 261 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: think two of them actually got replacement vehicles from Ford. 262 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: Ford was actually very good about it, you know, I 263 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: think this was a while ago. This is I think 264 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: Ford's changed a little bit and their approach to it. 265 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they're doing it now. But it would 266 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: not be impossible for this to be a coolant issue 267 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: and intermittent one would the compression test find it. Honestly, 268 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: I think compression tests, Yeah, for a hardcore mechanical failure, 269 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: they're okay. But I also take in we don't do 270 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: a lot of mechanical compression tests anymore simply because so 271 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: many engines today run variable valve timing and you know, 272 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: or different designs of camshaft intake, exhaust, valve overlap duration, 273 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: you know, timing marks, et cetera. They're not valid. We'll 274 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: do a relative compression test, either by scope or through 275 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: one of the other specialty tools we have in the 276 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: shop that allows us to just do a cranking compression 277 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: test right through a scan tool, or you know, we 278 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: will do a maybe a running compression test. My favorite 279 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: of all time is still a cylinder leak down test. Nothing, 280 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: Nothing will find a leak faster than one hundred and 281 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: fifty PSI and a cylinder from an air compressor and 282 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: watch the relative loss. So you know, it's possible. Yeah, 283 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: it's possible, especially as an intermittent. I'm not saying it's impossible. 284 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: I don't think and I'm gonna think about this for 285 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: a second. I've never seen an injector failure on an escape. 286 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, you know, there and I 287 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: see quite a few of them, you know, and I 288 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: know I personally know a few of them. I personally 289 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: know one really well with high mileage on it. It's 290 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: got all the original injectors. Having said that, that's probably 291 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: the condemnation. But my engineer Tom, he's got three probably 292 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: four hundred thousand miles on it by now. God only knows. So, 293 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: but you know, that's no reason, that's that's not how 294 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: we diagnose, right, that's you know, because this one didn't 295 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: do it. 296 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: This one does. 297 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: So it's possible. 298 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: You know. 299 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: My question is is the misfire there now? Is it's 300 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,479 Speaker 2: still doing it? You know? Can it be proved? Can 301 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: you know we do any sort of testing on it. 302 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: Can we move the injector from one cylinder to the next, 303 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: And I realize that's a lot of work because of 304 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: its location, it's not easily accessible. But I think we 305 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: have to do more than a mechanical compression test. I 306 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: think we have to do a cylinder leaked down test 307 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: and start to look at that because it's either spark 308 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: fuel or something mechanical. And it would not be impossible 309 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: for this to be a coolant problem where the cylinder 310 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: head has to come off. Now I will say this, 311 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: this could be more than ahead gasket. This could be 312 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: more than Ahead. I have seen a few of them 313 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: actually become engines because the block itself has a problem. 314 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: There are more than a few bulletins out there that 315 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: you can go talk to the local Ford dealer about. 316 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: And I don't think warranty is going to apply in 317 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: your case, because I think you're out by mileage. But yeah, 318 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: that's the gist of it, you know. And unfortunately this 319 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: is the weak knee in the later escapes. It started 320 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: around seventeen, it ran seventeen eighteen, in the early part 321 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: of the nineteen model year. From what I experienced, from 322 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: what I saw and then the problem got solved and 323 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: went away. And I was told on multiple occasions that 324 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: it was a vendor issue. It was how the engine 325 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: was assembled, how the engine was machined, and they they 326 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: blamed it strictly on that. So you know see what 327 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: that does for you? Tom? All right? You know it's funny, right, 328 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: you know Maine and looking at your email thinking about 329 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: Maine and the windstorms. Maine, you know, voted not to 330 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: vote on the EV mandate. Did anybody hear in the 331 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: news this week? It made me think of this. Did 332 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: anybody hear in the news this week that Germany has 333 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: repealed their subsidies of evs. I was reading this just 334 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: go Google search Geminy German geminy Germany EV subsidies and 335 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: the German government is pulling back or redefining their support 336 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: for an EV mandate there because they're finding it to 337 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: be too expensive and not working from a practical point 338 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: of view. Kind of interesting, right, you know, again, I 339 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: highlight Mark Mills. Mark Mills said this was going to happen, 340 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: and he just continues to be right, one step after 341 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: the next. I've got to get a hold of Mark. 342 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, he owes us a show. 343 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: We got to get a show out of him. He 344 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: wants to come on and talk about EV batteries in depth, 345 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: so I imagine that'll be very insightful and interesting, so 346 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: we should do that. I'll make a note maybe the 347 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: next two weeks we'll get him up here on air 348 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: and we can kind of talk about that. So again, 349 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 350 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: is the phone number. I'll do it again. Eight five 351 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero is the 352 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: phone number. Keep in mind that that number is on 353 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: after we're off air. We're here Saturday's two to four 354 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: pm Eastern time, but you can call the eight five 355 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero phone number 356 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: and leave a message. Tom Ray, we'll call you back. 357 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: And I've been trying to get everybody also real quick 358 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: before we go to the pause. If you can, you're 359 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: sending me an email Ron at cardoctorshow dot com for help. Listen, 360 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: put your phone number in there, and you never know what. 361 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to call you up, and I'm want you 362 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: to take that conversation so it's out on air because 363 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: I want everybody to hear our conversation as we talk 364 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: about it. Because I want everybody to get the education 365 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 2: about what's wrong with their car and how to properly 366 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: fix it and diagnose it. So I'm running any in 367 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: the car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 368 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 4: Don't go in. 369 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: Welcome back my name of the car doctor. 370 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 3: Here. 371 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: Let's cruise on over to Mike and Wisconsin and see 372 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: what's going on here. Mike, Welcome to the Car Doctor. Sir, 373 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: How can I help? 374 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: I'm calling in regarding a purchasing question. Okay, I own 375 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: a thousand and seven Cadillac Denali or Escalade. Excuse me, 376 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: I have a GMC Denali as well, but a Cadillac Escalating. 377 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: I really love I really loved the vehicle. And excuse me, 378 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 3: it has a one hundred and forty thousand miles on it. 379 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: But evidently the people that owned it before didn't have 380 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: it in a garage, and it's got some rusts that's 381 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: shown up around the bottom of the door panels and 382 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 3: around the fenders, around the gas tank, you know, all 383 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: the typical places that it starts that rust goes through. 384 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: And I really loved the vehicle, and I all of 385 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 3: a sudden had an opportunity now to pick up a 386 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: twenty and twelve that has been owned by a car dealer, 387 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: and he took care of it, and he's had everything done, 388 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 3: the brakes and the tires. It's got nice wheels on it. 389 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: It's had new lines put in, a transmission line. All 390 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: the oil has been drained, the transmission has been drained 391 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: and exchanged, the rear end differentials, all of this stuff 392 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: that you know has been done on it. But it's 393 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 3: got two hundred and twelve thousand miles on it, and 394 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm wondering should I grab that twenty and twelve and 395 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: get rid of my two thousand and seven? 396 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: Well, you know, rus well, you know they say rust 397 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 2: never sleeps, right, So you're right. You know, at what 398 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: level and to what point does that rust just chew 399 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: up the vehicle? And you know, when when does that come? 400 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: Does that come next year, the year after, it doesn't matter. 401 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: You know it's coming. So let's let's let's take it 402 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: out one step further. Right, Let's say you buy the 403 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: twenty twelve. What do they want for the twenty twelve? 404 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: About ninety eight, so ten grand? Right? 405 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: And I bought the whole seven a year and a 406 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: half ago for ten grand, So it's going to be 407 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: basically a swap. I could probably get you know, anybody's 408 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: and give me ten grand for a vehicle. It's only 409 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: got one hundred and forty thousand miles on it. 410 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: Right. Well, let's say let's say you get five grand 411 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: for it. Okay, right, anything that runs is worth five grand. 412 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: Somebody will get somebody will get two years out of it. 413 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: You're just trying to leave frog. You're way into something better. 414 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: So let's look at it like this. Let's say you 415 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: get five grand for it. It costs you five grand to 416 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: drive that two thousand and seven for two years, right, 417 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: not the worst, little little expensive, but not the worst. 418 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: Right now, you're in another vehicle. Maybe you get seventy 419 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: five hundred four. But start playing with those numbers. See 420 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: see what number you got to get to make yourself 421 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: feel comfortable? Listen, to drive anything Cadillac, all right, is 422 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: easily five hundred dollars a month. 423 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean That's why I'm saying. If you're 424 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 3: worried about what it costs to drive it, then there 425 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: ain't no sense in owning it. 426 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: Right. So, but the point I'm trying to make is this, 427 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: So let's say it's let's say you get five for it, 428 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: and you know it costs you five grand for two years. 429 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: That's twenty five hundred a year. That's cheap, right that 430 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: that didn't cost you a lot. So now you're in 431 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: this twenty twelve. You're in this twenty twelve. Let's say 432 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: it's ten grand. Let's round it off ten grand, okay, 433 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: And let's say six months from now the engine pops. 434 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: All right, let's just let's just play what if, all right, 435 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: and you put an engine in it and the engines 436 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: I don't know, seventy five hundred bucks. 437 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: Okay. 438 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: Let's say six months after that the trans fails, or 439 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: maybe while you're doing the engine, you'll do the trans 440 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: and the trans is five grand. So now you're into 441 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: it twelve five. Now you're into this truck for about 442 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: twenty three thousand, okay. And from what you're saying, it's 443 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: got good bones, right, the frame is good, the lines 444 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 2: are good, everything's. 445 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: Been done to this whatsoever on it? 446 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: Right, You're driving one hundred and five thousand dollars vehicle 447 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: for twenty five thousand bucks in in essence, right, A 448 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: new escalator, A new escalat is how much hold over? 449 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty I. 450 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: Think, right, doesn't look so shabby, does it? No? I don't, 451 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: So you know, the real question is just just just 452 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: thinking what if and kind of moving this needle out 453 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 2: a little bit. Is you know, who would you have 454 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: do an engine? Who would you have do with trans? 455 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure it exists, but just start thinking 456 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: in terms of that, because you know, it's not the 457 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: little things that are going to set you back. It's 458 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: not the power window that's going to break. That's gonna 459 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's gonna be annoying, and you know it's 460 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: gonna be a couple hundred bucks, but it's not the 461 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: back breaker. The back breaker is, you know, the back 462 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: breaker is when the engine takes a dive, when the 463 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: trans takes a dump, you know, where do you go? 464 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: But if you're if you're prepared for it, listen, you 465 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: know it may not break. 466 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: It's yeah, I know a lot of these get over 467 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: over three hundred thousand miles. 468 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely, absolutely listen. I often wonder my O four suburban, 469 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: which is actually the prettiest suburban on the planet left 470 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: I think it. It just turned ninety thousand miles on it. 471 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: You look at it. I run through the car wash 472 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: you think it's brand new. You know, I often say 473 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: to myself, what's that worth? And who would want it? 474 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: It's twenty years old? But you know it's it's been 475 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: it's been maintained, it's had everything done to it. It's 476 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: it's already had a trans it's you know, break lines 477 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: are everything is right where it's supposed to be. You know, 478 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: as long as you're willing to put up with a 479 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 2: bit of maintenance and maybe a surprise here and there, 480 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: you can close You can close the consciousness gap as 481 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: I sometimes call it, of driving an older vehicle that's 482 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: costing you one hundred thousand dollars less and justify it 483 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: in your mind. Right. 484 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: Sure, sure, you. 485 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: Know people say to me all the time, hend, I 486 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: don't want to spend any money on this car. I'm 487 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: going to go buy a new one. And I look 488 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: at mysel I look at it and I think to myself, 489 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: they don't want to spend any money, but they're going 490 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 2: to go buy a new one. 491 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 4: Do they have any idea what they're doing? 492 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: I know it doesn't make any sense, and I'll never 493 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: buy it new vehicle because you know you're going to 494 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: lose as soon as you drive it off. 495 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: Sure. 496 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: Well, and then the other thing is, you know, I 497 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: want to buy a new vehicle. I want reliability. I 498 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: understand that comment a little bit better, but I also 499 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: point out, you know, I also point out that you 500 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: can drive that thing out of the showroom and get 501 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: a flat the next day because there's a nail in 502 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: the road. 503 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: So exactly exactly. 504 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: Reliability, I think. But yeah, I get it. Listen, as 505 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: long as you're willing to put up with it, and 506 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: you seem to like and listen the most important you 507 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: seem to like older Cadillacs. Right, Oh, I love it. 508 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: I love the vehicle, you know. 509 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: So it's it's you know, if it was a hot rod, 510 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: if this was if this was forty years ago, Mike, 511 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: you'd restore it and drive it. Right, it's it's it's 512 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: it's your hot rod. This is your thing. This is 513 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 2: what you like, drive it, enjoy it, and and you know, 514 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: and like I said, you may. 515 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: Even before I ran into this twelve, I was looking 516 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: at it. I'm thinking, you know, the thing's starting to 517 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: rust out, and I really love it. I was thinking about, 518 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: you know, spending four thousand dollars and having all that 519 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: rust removed and having it redone and touched up and 520 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 3: stuff like that. But then again, now that you mentioned 521 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: the fact, say, okay, what if I only get five 522 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: thousand dollars out of it? You know when I go 523 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 3: to this twenty twelve, and I was just thinking, you know, 524 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 3: if that's a reality, which it possibly is, I might 525 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: not only I might only get five or six thousand 526 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 3: out of it, but it's got one hundred and forty 527 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: thousand on it. I could just pull it into the 528 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: barn and leave it there. And if my new and pukes, 529 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: I just have all the stuff right there ready to 530 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 3: do it. 531 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you've got And there's nothing like having a spare. 532 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: The other thing to be The other thing to be 533 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: aware of is either the twelve or the seven, all right, 534 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: have less electronics on them. And sometimes sometimes that's a 535 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: good thing, all right. 536 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I'm an electronics engineer from from way back when, 537 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: and I worked on cap scanners when they first came out. 538 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 3: And you know, the electronic circuitry that monitors how everything 539 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: operates is ninety nine times out of one hundred, what 540 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: goes wrong with them? To begin with, there's really nothing 541 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: wrong except for the stuff that monitors, right, and in. 542 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: This case, they've it stood the test of time, right, 543 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: you know. I I generally see when electronics get past 544 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: that magic seven eight year mark, it's a good chip set. 545 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: It usually lasts a good long time. 546 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: It's you know. 547 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: And with a vehicle to the first few years that 548 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: they come out with a with a change, and if 549 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: that's when they have the most problems. So a twelve 550 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: versus a seven, a lot of the bugs has been 551 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: worked out. Correct, yep, correct, it should be a better 552 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: vehicle all around. 553 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: Well, you know, like I always say, if you want 554 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 2: to convince yourself about whether or not you should fix 555 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: your car or buy a new one, is go price 556 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: a new one. It'll convince you exactly one way or 557 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: the other. 558 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: Well, that helped me out a lot, I think. I 559 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 3: think in a worst case scenario, I'm not going to 560 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 3: be out any money I could. I'll just pull it 561 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: in the und if that new one too, because I 562 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: got an engine and a training waiting in there. That's good. 563 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: It's only got one hundred and forty thousand miles on it. 564 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: And it may or may not be the same, but 565 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: you can check that. But regardless, I already have and 566 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: it's the same. 567 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they can switch him right off, because the guy 568 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 3: that I'm buying it from actually is my mechanic. And 569 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: when I saw it sitting on his lot, I go, dude, 570 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: why are you getting rid of your Cadillac. Of course 571 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 3: he's another one, he says, I'm getting old. I got 572 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: fifteen projects to do in fifteen cards. He said, I 573 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: can't keep them all. I got to get rid of that. 574 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: Well, I understand that, so I get that one hundred percent, Mike. 575 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: I enjoyed the conversation. Sir, you have a good, safe 576 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 2: New Year and a good rest of the weekend, and 577 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: we'll talk. 578 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: To you next God bless you man in twenty four. 579 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. I'm running Ay and 580 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: the car Doctor we are back right after this. 581 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 4: Don't go away, fucking. 582 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: Back running the car our Doctor here at eight five 583 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. We went 584 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: down the rabbit hole this week and we weren't supposed 585 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: to take the trip on a twenty eighteen Suberu cross 586 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: track and the son of a customer he was home 587 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: from mid school this week and it needed an oil 588 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: change of basic service and a look over. And when 589 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: Pat came in. We were talking at the counter. He said, 590 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: you know, it's making this noise that he wasn't quite 591 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: sure how to describe it. And I said, no, I understand. 592 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: I said, let me let me take it for a ride. 593 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: When I took it for a ride, it had a 594 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: failed rear wheel bearing. One of the real route which 595 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: they typically do. 596 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 4: Suberus seemed to chew. 597 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: Up wheel bearings. It's a chronic failure, and it seems 598 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: to be the rears more than the front. And I 599 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: said to Pat, I said, you know, listen, I said, 600 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: the one wheel bearing is bad. I said, it's home. 601 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: It's a part. We're in the neighborhood of the proximity. 602 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: Let's do them both. Let's get this over with because 603 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: we've got to send this young man back to school 604 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: and we don't have to have any problems and continue 605 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: on those course of studies. And Pat agreed. I've got 606 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: to tell you, you know, there's good steel and bad steel, 607 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: and there's good Japanese steel and bad Japanese steel. I 608 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: think of it as and maybe that's our cake, but 609 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: it's what I've noticed in the past fifteen or so years. 610 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: I go back to the times of how come certain 611 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: toyotas like that. Tacomas would rust out the frames as 612 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: bad as they did, and other vehicles. I think the 613 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: fore runners went through it too, you know, fives through 614 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: the twelves, something like that. But every once in a 615 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: while you get a car that just doesn't want to 616 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: come apart. I went to take out the right rear 617 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: wheel bearing, and yeah, I know there's a special tool 618 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: out there that you know, I've seen that not work too. 619 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: And we've got our own methods. We try heat, we 620 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: do a little layer chisel, we do some pushbolts from 621 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: the back. And nothing got this wheel bearing to move. 622 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: It just didn't want to go no matter what you did. 623 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: It was just stuck. Even well that I welded a 624 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: nut to the hub itself and try popping the bolt 625 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: off that you know, using a bolt through the axle 626 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: stud hole, and tried pulling it that way, and it 627 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 2: just didn't want to move. And it just it just 628 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 2: came down to letting it soak. Having some patience, you know, 629 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: I got it to move a little bit. I heated 630 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: it a little bit. I used some PB blaster on it, 631 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: of course, and the PB worked its magic. I went 632 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: through the thermal shock that you've heard me talk about 633 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: where I do the thermal shock treatment. Hit it with 634 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: a little water, get it to you know, react to water. 635 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: Get it a little warm, hit it with water, shoot 636 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: some PB in there and all of that and an 637 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: air chisel finally got it apart. The kicker was that 638 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: then and only then I then saw the boot that 639 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: was failing on the right rear axle. The outer boot 640 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: was starting to fall apart on an eighteen. You know, 641 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: somebody once said they're not making them like they used to, 642 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: and I think that's true. You never know what you're 643 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: gonna get sometimes you go down the rabbit hole. The customer, 644 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: fortunately it was very understanding and he's sending the young 645 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: man home with it different vehicle, and we'll get it 646 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: fixed up next week. But my point becomes, you never 647 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: know where the rabbit hole is going to take you. You 648 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: never know where the trip's going to be, and you're 649 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: better off taking the ride. And this is most important 650 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: because before you send a car back out on the 651 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: road where it's very unforgiving, at least you know you've 652 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: got a good saved vehicle underfoot and that you're safe 653 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: on the road and you're going to get to your 654 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: destination in one piece. I'm running ay in the car doctor. 655 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, welcome back. 656 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: I'm run naming the car doctor here at a five 657 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. But we're 658 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: we're done talking cars. I think this year, you know, 659 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: we've uh, we've said all that. We've said that all 660 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: that we could possibly say. And quite frankly, Tom and 661 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: I were talking during the week and we thought we 662 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: wanted to, uh, you know, we wanted to talk to 663 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: you guys. We just wanted to say how grateful we 664 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: are to have had you here this year, and uh, 665 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: to have been part of the family with you and 666 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: to talk to you about your problems and your car issues. 667 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: And you know, we consider ourselves really lucky, really fortunate 668 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: that in this day and age, Uh, you know, independent 669 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: broadcasters get to do this at the level that we're 670 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: playing here. We're playing the game at a very high level. 671 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: And uh, we're proud of that fact. But we're also 672 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: grateful for that fact. And you know, I have my thoughts. 673 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: I think Tom has some that he wants to share 674 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: as well. You know, he sits there quietly, the man 675 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: in the corner, so to speak. And uh, you know, 676 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: I got to tell you, folks, I've got the best 677 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: radio engineer in the world. And he's very humble about it. 678 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: He's a pain in the neck about it sometimes, but uh, 679 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: you know, he keeps me alive and keeps me on air. 680 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: Mister ray ye is you know you uh, you've been 681 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: the best, right You've we've we've we've yeah, you are. 682 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: You know what. We kid each other and we get 683 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: in each other's case a little bit, but you know, 684 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: we put out a quality show and we enjoy talking 685 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: it everybody. And you know, I know you've got some 686 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: thoughts on it. You know, it's It's the purpose of radio, right, 687 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: Isn't that what we're doing here? 688 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 5: Purpose of radio is to entertain and to be somebody's friend. 689 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 5: And you know, years ago I was always taught and 690 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 5: with broadcasts that the person listening you don't know what 691 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 5: they've got going on in their life, so you don't 692 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 5: bring your personal, you know, feelings or anything into it, 693 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 5: and you entertain them and you try to put a 694 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 5: smile on their face and you try to make their day. 695 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 5: And I think that's what we do, and I think. 696 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: We do it well. Yeah, I do too. I think 697 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: you know, I heard it. I heard the same thing 698 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: in a different connotation. I heard it along the lines 699 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 2: of you know that you do it as people don't 700 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: want to hear blue Cloud coming out of their radio. 701 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: They listen. If they want to be depressed, they'll go 702 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: watch the news. Uh, you know, it's quite frankly, you know, 703 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: they're looking for entertainment, they're looking for solutions. They're looking 704 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: for you know, that fireside chat. And while we're not 705 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: as anything in that league, but we try to be. 706 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 2: We just want to let you know that we've appreciated 707 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: v here and we plan to continue to do so 708 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: for as long as they let us. I'm Ron and 709 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 2: Andy and the car doctor Abel, assisted by the executive 710 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: Tom Ray, reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 711 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: See you