WEBVTT - How COVID-19 Works 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:03.560 Welcome to stuff you should know, a production of five 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:12.119 Heart Radios. How stuff works. Hey, and welcome to the 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:16.200 Global Nightmare. I'm Josh, there's Chuck, there's Jerry over there, 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.080 and we are stuff you should know. It was, uh, 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.840 that's an Alice Cooper song. Right, that's welcome to my Nightmare. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:28.240 Oh I think it. It is my nightmare, isn't it? Yeah? 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.680 But he should have thought bigger. Yeah, you really should have. 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.160 It was kind of excited. Yeah, well, put we saw 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.959 him in concert once, remember that's right, big shout out 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:42.760 to Anita Strouss. Yes, guitarist, extraordinary for Alice Cooper among others. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:48.360 It's enthusiast what enthusiast science? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.800 So we should uh. I think everyone knows right now 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.520 that we are now set up to record apart from 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:01.880 one another. Chuck. Um, So my first question before we 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.720 have to get serious is what are you wearing? I 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:09.960 knew it. Can I tell you seriously what I'm wearing? Yeah, 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.920 I'm going to tell you. Okay, Um, I am wearing 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:19.640 an apron and that's it. Wow? Yeah what about you? 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:25.480 So your cosplaying is sexy chef? Yeah? Yeah, that's what 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.520 I like to think of myself as it's not really cosplay, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.959 that's kind of normal life stuff. Yeah, I am wearing 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.399 um and this is not a plug, but it is 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.040 what I'm wearing. I'm wearing me and these I'm wearing. 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.920 I'm wearing my mac Weldon. Uh. I don't know what 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:43.480 they call him. You know, kind of the warm up 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.560 pants that you can go to the grocery store in sure, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.400 but do not go to the grocery store, Chuck, not not. 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.360 And I'm wearing a Max fun Con two thousand and 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:57.240 twelve T shirt and my slippers. So basically this is 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.400 your UM I got all this free outfit, boy, it 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.560 really is. I paid for the slippers, Okay, but I 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.400 mean if you name dropped the slippers, maybe you can 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.840 get a replacement for him. I don't want to do that, 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.680 even though they're super comfy. Maybe we can get a 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.639 slipper sponsorship. Did you did you ever stop wearing slippers 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:19.280 out of the house? Uh? Well, what do you mean? So? 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.639 I think it was our five second Rule episode where 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.200 we talked about the point of slippers is to just 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.320 have these things that are house bound and never leave 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.000 your house, and then you you just wear them in 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.480 your house and then instead of outside, so the outdoors 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.200 germs never come inside on the bottom of your feet. Boy, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.880 that's you're calling out like a nine year old episode. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.760 Uh you know, I may go get the mail or something. Okay, 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.079 all right, well before you were going and like getting 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:49.720 ice cream at the convenience store in those things if yeah, yeah, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.919 and I feel like the fact that you're not doing 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.400 any more, you may have forgotten, but that's my influence, chuck. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.320 Or I may have just gotten gained some self respect, 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.960 right there you go. I like to think both of 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:08.079 those from my influence. Okay, uh yeah. So at the 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.880 head of the show, I think we should announce we're 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:14.120 doing an episode on COVID nineteen. It is Tuesday. I 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:18.200 don't even know what date it is. And this will 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:23.440 come out on the right, that's what Jerry's promising right now. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.400 That remains to be seen though, so it'll be sort 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.519 of up to date. But two days a lot can change, um, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.280 as we all know. Uh. And the other thing too, 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.119 is it I think we are going to stay out 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.200 of sort of the politics and the economics of the 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.000 of this, because that's an almost separate podcast in itself 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.560 that I have no interest in ever doing I Well, 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.600 I'm surprised to hear you say that last part. I 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.840 was figuring that that would be one we do, like 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.840 years from now, like go back and look at the 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:59.680 coronavirus pandemic of because I think so many weird, remarkable, 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.000 in interesting things are going to grow out of this 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.920 and are already going on. I could totally see us 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.960 doing that. But I get what I can vibe on 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:14.800 what you're saying, because after recording this, like I'm hoping 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.320 that we can finish this episode and never talk about 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.440 coronavirus again. Like, I get what you're saying. That would 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.200 be great. Yeah, I'm tired of knowing about it, you know. Yeah, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.400 And we you know, we debated quite honestly whether or 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.919 not to even do this, but it seems like we 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.360 had more people asking for just a level headed take 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.159 on it from us than people saying, I would really 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.719 rather be distracted, so we'll distract you after today. Yeah. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.960 And we're also, I mean, we're not riding that wave 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.880 where we're like trying to feed your news addiction that 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:47.159 like you can't get enough breaking information about this global pandemic. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.400 Like like you said, we're just trying to add just 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.480 trying to do a stuff you should know on coronavirus, 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.760 on COVID nineteen specifically, and we we got we got 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.520 some big help, a big assist from Dave Rouge, who 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.039 initially pushed back. We had to convince him to do it. Remember, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.640 he's like, you sure if people want to hear this? Yeah, 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.240 We're like, yeah, we're pretty sure. We'll find out though. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.240 So thanks a lot, Dave Rouse, you did good. And also, um, 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.280 a big shout out to the grabster to who's been 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:18.400 under the weather so hanging their grab stir. Yeah, so 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.080 let's let's get going. I learned a lot in the 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.480 last couple of days. Uh. And the first kind of 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.840 dumb thing that I learned was that COVID nineteen stands 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:33.120 for coronavirus disease two thousand nineteen, which I didn't even 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.440 know that until two days ago. Is that right? Yeah? 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.039 I mean it's not talked about a lot, and I 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.000 didn't bother to look it up. So yeah, and I 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:42.960 guess it's not intuitive looking at it if you think 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.720 about it, But um, there's other names for it to 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.760 the who so so what you just said coronavirus disease 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:54.000 two thousand nineteen COVID nineteen. That's the name of the disease, right, 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.480 there's another name for the disease that the who calls 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:03.320 two thousand nineteen and cove okay, and then the virus 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.200 itself if you want to really show off at your 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:11.920 next online dinner party. Um, the virus itself is is 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:18.880 technically named stars Cove two. Yeah, dash big seed, little 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.719 old big vas too. That's right. And as we'll see, 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.320 the reason that it is called stars Cove two is 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:31.920 because it bears a striking genetic resemblance to stars Cove one. 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.120 I guess you could call it or the stars the 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:38.200 stars virus that um that swept the swept the world 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.000 not too long ago too, Yeah, And I can't help 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.560 every time I hear of stars I still the first 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.880 thing I think of is the Saturday Night Live sketch 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.760 with Peter stars Guard when he developed the Stars Guard 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.240 stars Guard. Yeah, when did we talk about that before? 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:58.120 Was it the virus is one or the Spanish flu episode? Maybe? 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.560 I don't think we did one on stars did No, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.560 not as far as I remember, huh, Because because I 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.080 don't know much about coronaviruses, or I didn't until we 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.000 really started researching this. But um, that is what covid is. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:14.960 It's a coronavirus, and coronaviruses have been around for a while. Um. 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:19.320 They're a family of viruses that typically cause upper respiratory 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:24.560 infections in humans and chickens and pigs and cows. Coronavirus 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:29.840 is usually cause um diarrhea or intestinal infections. Um, but 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.360 in humans it's usually the upper respiratory tract. Although we 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.560 have seen now that coronavirus can cause pig or cow 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.520 like infections in humans too, we've seen that recently. But 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.360 but for the most part, you've probably been exposed to 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.400 a coronavirus. You've probably been made sick by one. And 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.360 normally coronavirus is just give us something that we would 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:55.080 take as a cold or a common flu. Yeah. And 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.400 the corona means crown in both Spanish and Latin. And 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.360 these images that you've seen, the illustrations of what it 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:06.760 looks like under a microscope, Um, those little spikes protruding 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.760 from the surface, those are kind of what I guess 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.120 how it got its name as corona. Yeah, Dave puts 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.560 it here like it reminds him of Pinhead from the 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.920 Hell Raiser movies, who, by the way, has a really 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.520 good backstory. I was reading about him just happen by 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:25.880 happenstance the other day. Yeah, he's a really interesting guy. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.640 The whole reason he got into, you know, being a 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:33.319 center byte in Hell was, um, he was disillusioned by 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.080 the chaos of World War One and lost like all 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.800 all faith in any meaning to life, so he started 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.480 to he just ditched this world for hell instead. Oh wow, 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.480 I didn't know there was a backstory. Oh yeah, there's 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.040 a bunch of It's kind of been built up over 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.160 the course of some of Clive Barker's novels. The movies 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.400 have contributed to it, some other people have kind of 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.800 contributed to it. And there's like this robust kind of 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.280 mythos around that guy. It's it's really interesting stuff. See, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.000 I'm appreciated eating our sides more than ever today. Yeah, 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.360 I mean to it's kind of like, do we have 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.240 to talk about this? Yeah, let's talk more about movies. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.960 Have you seen the new Candy Man that's coming? Are 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:16.320 they remaking Candy Man? Yeah, Jordan Peel's producing it, and 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:20.400 I saw trailer looks pretty good. Did you like UM US. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:26.840 I did. I was, and I was not moved entirely 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.120 by it. I really like get Out a lot more 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.559 than US. But I'm a fan of Jordan Peel to 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.160 think he's got a great mind and everything. But I 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.000 don't know if I was expecting more from US or 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.120 I was expecting something different. I'm not sure. Well, I 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.319 like to get Out more. For sure. US got a 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.800 little wacky, but then I think I appreciate it more. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:47.320 It's like a sort of a Twilight Zone kind of wacky. Yeah. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.160 I guess if I had gone into it expecting that, 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.959 I think I would have liked it more. Yeah, I 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.680 dug it great acting too, Oh yeah, for sure, across 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.600 the board. All right, do we have to talk about 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.240 this now? Yeah? Back to it, all right. See's said 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.040 that chances are that at some point you might have 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.000 had a coronavirus UM. You might have just thought it 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.920 was a cold UM novel coronavirus viruses. You've probably heard 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.200 that in the news lately. This is different because this 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:17.480 is an animal coronavirus that evolves and then infects a 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:22.199 human and thus rendering it novel or new to us. Yeah, 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.440 like those other coronavirus is the ones that give us 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.600 colds or whatever. Who knows how long they've been around, 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.400 and it's possible they followed the exact same process that 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:34.400 these novel coronaviruses have followed. But this novel coronavirus that 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.000 causes COVID nineteen, like you said, it's new to us, 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.360 and we think that it literally just made the jump 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:46.720 from animal to human, possibly in a live animal food 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:52.560 market in Wuhan, China. Um and as recently as late 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.600 December two thousand nineteen. Yeah, so there's kind of a 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.920 lot to this. I think they pretty much are pouse 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.760 it of that that's what happened. Um. They think that 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.520 they have a patient zero, fifty five year old man 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:12.800 from the Hubai province, but they're not positive about that. Uh. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.720 And now there's some debate about the timeline. UM. Officially 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.520 it was December thirty one, but now they're saying it 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.320 may have been first detected in mid November. UM, the 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:28.800 patient zero is not confirmed. Uh. They they've also think 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.520 they have zero down the fact that it just like 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.920 in the movie Contagion, it started with a bat and 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.360 then this animal, this very strange animal that had never 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.560 heard of before, called a pangolin has served as the 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.280 intermediate host because they did genome sequencing of the virus 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:50.920 and it has identical genome sequence to that of uh 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.560 when it's in a human. Yeah, that's it's really interesting 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.240 to think that if you look at a lot of 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.920 the research Chuck, that we're hearing about and we're learning 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.479 and just generally stuff that people walking around know about coronavirus, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.440 it has come from China doing an astounding amount of 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.720 research and um work on examining and trying to figure 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.800 out and trying to defeat this coronavirus. So, um, I 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.280 mean they've they've they've definitely done a lot of work, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.760 you could say, for to to to kind of explain 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.240 to the world what's going on. Even though I believe 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.920 they're they're pretty roundly criticized for potentially not warning the 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.880 world and enough time. Um, but I guess that's getting 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.800 to that political stuff. Yeah, and just to be clear 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.720 of finding a patient zero isn't so they can, you know, 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.160 say you did it, you did it, you have to 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.480 pay for this. Yeah, it's it's helpful in trying to 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.400 figure this whole thing out. That's why timelines are important. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.040 Tracing it back to his roots is important. Uh. Since 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:56.560 that time, China has closed down about twenty wildlife arms 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.280 to try and curb in part to try and curb 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.120 the pangul and trade, which is a delicacy to eat 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.120 in China. Um, but I just read today apparently in 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.839 Nigeria they account for about fifty of the pangol in 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.960 trade and the penalty they already had in place is 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.480 still the current penalty, which is two dollars and seventy 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.000 cents for a first time offenders. So there's a lot 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.040 of pressure on Nigeria right now to shut down their 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.760 trade as well. And yeah, pangulin is a it's it's 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.240 a mammal, right, but it is covered in like these 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.520 kind of dragon like scales, and it looks like a 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.760 small ant eater. It looks like a dragon head sex 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:34.840 with an ant eater. Yeah, and it's tough to look at, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.960 Like it hurts my teeth looking at pangolins for some reason. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.720 I can't quite put my finger on why. But it's 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:46.800 almost like they just shouldn't be or something. Well, Uh, 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.520 I'm not gonna say what I was gonna say, So 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.760 let's talk about the spread of covid. Okay, so UM 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.480 there the way that it's spread initially or the way 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:02.240 that just about well, any zooonotic virus. I'm not sure 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.360 if all viruses start like this, but they usually typically 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.800 start in an animal and it spreads through close contact 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:13.199 between an animal, a sick animal, and human who then 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:18.240 contracts that it's a zoonotic transmission right from animal to human. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:22.280 It is I'm surprised we haven't hit on it before. UM. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.400 And then so that's an animal to person transmission. From 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.120 that point on, that person is infected, they get sick, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:33.200 and then they transfer it to somebody who UM, who 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.760 comes in close contact with them, which we'll talk more about, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.720 but these days, close contact for coronavirus and COVID nineteen 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.280 is considered within six ft for an extended period of 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.520 time or present with somebody sneezes or coughs in in 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.480 you know, a small area, and then that person can 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.280 get sick. That's person a person transmission. And then the 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.320 last one, and this is the one that's the hardest 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.000 to deal with and the one that we're seeing right 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.840 now the stage that we've entered UM around the world 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:05.040 is what's called community spread. Yeah, that one's the scary one, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.160 because that's the final stage where people get sick who, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.880 as far as they know, didn't have any contact with 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.600 another sick person. Um. And this is when you know, 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.760 those very first stages of the outbreak, it was all 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:23.440 person to person after obviously the animal transmission. Uh. And 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.840 then when it developed into community spread, that's when people 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.000 started to get UM a little freaked out. I think, yeah, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.520 because I mean they can't say, oh, I was around 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:37.080 you know Timmy, who's sick with this right now, so 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.040 I got it from him. It's like, I have no 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.840 idea where I got this, And that makes the whole 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.040 thing scary. It makes people freaked out. It makes it 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.720 much more difficult to UM to contain when people don't 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.840 know where they're getting it from, and it it makes 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.640 you need to take much more draconian measures to to 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.280 prevent the spread of this stuff. It's where it starts 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:00.920 to get out of cont role is when it hits 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.880 community spread. Yeah. UM. And you know when you see 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.520 like these graphic maps of of how it's spread, it's 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:12.000 really frightening, is the only word that can be used 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.280 to describe how quickly this thing has taken hold. UM. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.440 And you know this is stuff that everyone knows unless 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.720 you've just been under a rock or like my friend Clay. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.320 About a week before this happened, he went to Nepal 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:30.040 for a two month piking trip. Yeah. I was like, well, 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:31.880 that's your new home, buddy, I hope you like it. 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:37.280 Is he there still? Yeah, he's still there. Oh my gosh. Okay, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.680 that's good. He's not sick or anything. He's just hanging out. Yeah. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.480 I don't think he's seen a lot of people. I 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.520 think he's deep, you know, into the woods and stuff. Well, man, 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.480 that's about as good a place as you could possibly 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.760 be right now. Yeah, And he was planning on being 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.480 there for two months anyway. Uh, yes, he had a 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.360 plan a trip. It may not have been two months, 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.480 but I'm not sure. I mean, I am concerned about it, obviously, 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.840 But he says everything's cool. Yeah. It sounds like your 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:09.000 friend Clay maybe one of the luckiest people in the world. Maybe. Wow, Well, 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.360 keep it, keep at it, Clay. You're doing social distancing right. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.679 Just go to Nepal and stay in the woods. Should 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.040 we should we take a little break here? Yes? We should. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.320 All right, let's break and we'll talk about some of 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:27.120 the symptoms right after this stuff. You should know. Gosh, 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:47.120 sh stuff you should know. Okay, chuck. So we're talking 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:51.760 about symptoms here, um there. It turns out so the 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.360 there's like a classic set of symptoms that they now 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.760 recognize as if you have these, there's a really good 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.600 it's right now that you you have COVID nineteen. Um. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.119 The the cluster of symptoms are a fever. It's usually 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.520 a high fever m hm. A dry cough is a 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.159 really dead giveaway. And a dry cough is you know 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.359 where where you it's almost like the back of your 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.800 throat is tickling and you can get no relief from it, 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.600 and you're not like coughing up flim that can help 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.119 get rid of that cough or that sensation of needing 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.119 to cough. It's like a dry cough. Yeah, which is 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.320 really troubling right now because it's pollen season here in 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.240 the United States and dry cough for a lot of 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.520 people is a is a regular thing every spring, So 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.960 it's especially worrisome I think for a lot of folks 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.160 with allergies, Yeah, for sure. Um and and I keep 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.840 getting like I don't normally get allergies, but it's pretty 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.600 bad this year. And I'm like, I've got not a 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.399 dry cough, but you know, a little tickle here there, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.080 my nose is maybe a little running here there. So 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.040 I'm like always really paying extra attention to that stuff. 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:01.680 It's it's exhausting basically. Yeah. And then the third one 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.440 is UM. So you've got fever, dry cough, and then 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.479 difficulty breathing, shortness of breath, that kind of thing. And 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.680 from studies they they've found according to the Journal of UM. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.719 Uh what is JAMMA stand for? I used to know, oh, 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.400 the Journal of the American Medical Association, duh, so jama 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:25.159 UM found that on average, people start to display that 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.479 symptom of shortness of breath within five days of the 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.880 onset of the rest of their symptoms. So if you 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.320 have a fever, if you have a dry cough, and 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.560 after a few days you start to develop a shortness 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.360 of breath or difficulty breathing, you're a really good candidate 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.560 to get tested for COVID and maybe need to go 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.440 to the hospital. Yeah. And I've seen um, I've seen 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.359 the chess thing described from people who have coronavirus or 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:54.960 COVID nineteen is everything from you know, fifty pound weight 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:59.399 on your chest too, to a belt strapped around their 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.840 chest that keeps getting tighter and tighter that you can't. 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.720 That sounds awful, Yeah, it sounds very specific. Um. If 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:11.480 you feel actual severe pain and pressure in your chest. UM, 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.640 if you have bluish lips or a bluish face, if 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:20.119 all of a sudden you're confused and you normally aren't 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:24.080 confused mentally, then those are signs that they say you 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.960 really need to get to the hospital right away. Yeah, 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.800 for sure. I mean that's anytime your skin or lips 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.479 are blue, that's that's a bad sign. But that's one 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:36.000 of the big um signs of COVID is is that 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.680 difficulty breathing leads to a lack of oxygen, which is 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:43.399 why everybody keeps talking about this need for ventilators. Um. 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.439 Part of this process of a really bad case of 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.240 COVID we're talking about a bad case here, UM, is 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:52.639 that you may need a ventilator to help you breathe 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:56.200 because you're not getting enough oxygen into your lungs breathing 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.200 on your own. So that's why ventilators have been kind 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:03.080 of like sole pretty stars, um, really sought after in 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:07.320 this in this pandemic, right now, yeah, and why the 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:11.560 shortage of ventilators is super scary because you've got in 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:15.360 that situation and we'll talk more about, um, the biggest fear, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:19.639 which is overwhelming the medical system. But uh, then you 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:24.119 have potentially mild cases that develop into more serious and 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:28.320 even fatal cases, right, Yes, and that typically seems to 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:31.760 be in seen most in people who are older. I 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:36.159 think uh sixty five and over is at uh graduated 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.679 increased risk from that age forward. People who have compromised 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.680 immune systems already. I think people with diabetes are are 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.320 at risk. UM. But for the most part, something like 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.919 eight percent of cases of COVID are relatively mild and 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.000 are going to appear to you to be just like 0:21:53.160 --> 0:22:00.200 a seasonal cold, running knows, cough um, sore throat um, 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.480 just just something that you would wouldn't even need to 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:07.320 like do anything more than take some medicine at home. 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:11.160 For the vast majority of cases of people who are 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:14.160 who have are going to get COVID nineteen are going 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:18.359 to experience a mild case. It's actually it's I guess 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:19.920 what I'm trying to say is don't be freaked out. 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:25.719 It's very rare to get these extreme cases, Yes, statistics 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.520 are on your side, UM, and that's how it's treated 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.119 as well. In mild cases, it's treated sort of like 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.920 the flu. You get rest, you have a lot of fluids, UM, 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:38.879 you try to manage your fever, and generally in the 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.080 side of a couple of weeks, you will recover. In 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.400 mild cases, right, one of the problems that I saw 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:48.760 the chuck is that when the case becomes more advanced 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:53.199 and you have difficulty breathing, it's it's um. It just 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.159 kind of like reeks havoc on your lungs and the 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:59.480 air sax and your lungs avioli um start to become 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.240 damn it. And when they become damaged, they can very 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.480 easily get infected and filled with fluid, and then you 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:09.560 have pneumonia. And that's an entirely different co morbidity that 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:14.200 is um difficult to manage that that can kill you, 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.959 but also isn't necessarily going to kill you. But it's 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:21.119 it's another problem that they're finding can arise out of 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:25.640 a COVID nineteen infection. Yeah, I think uh Dave has 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.080 here down. The latest statistic is about one to three 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:34.680 percent of infections get to the secondary pneumonia, and if 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.840 that happens, you have what's called ARDS, acute respiratory distress syndrome. 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.120