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Speaker 1: I don't know. Every day click up the breakfast clubs, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Dumb yeps world most dangerous, wanting to show to breakfast

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Speaker 2: club Charlamagne and God, DJ Nvy just hilarious, Envy and

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Speaker 2: jets on here, but Laura l Rossa is and we

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Speaker 2: got a special guest in the building, A man.

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Speaker 3: I have no problem calling an icon.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it can in his head.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, my.

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Speaker 1: Man, man, I'm good. I mean I would say the

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Speaker 1: same about you, man, not yet not come on man,

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Speaker 1: quick playing. You know.

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Speaker 2: The reason made me think of that, I was I

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Speaker 2: was listening to you on myth Bleak podcast, okay, and

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Speaker 2: I was just like, I don't know if it's because

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Speaker 2: you and Bleak got such history, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I heard a different side of you

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. It was like it made me

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Speaker 2: Not like I didn't always look at you in that way,

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Speaker 2: but I'm like, yo, Nick has really done a lot.

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Speaker 2: And I remember it was one part you was talking

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Speaker 2: about how you just wanted to do things that were

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Speaker 2: always authentic. Yeah, And it made me start thinking about

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Speaker 2: all the different hats you won the comedian, acted, TV holes, rapper, directed, executive,

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Speaker 2: And I was just like, damn nah, especially.

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Speaker 1: Coming from you, man, because that's even that conversation that

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Speaker 1: was when Smith was up here, and he was. But

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Speaker 1: I've been in this game for so long, Like I've

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Speaker 1: been running through New York since the nineties, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. And I used to run with them

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Speaker 1: the nineties. And to your point, man, like I've been

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Speaker 1: blessed to be able to do so many different things.

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Speaker 1: But it's like time, you don't think, like, damn, thirty

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Speaker 1: I've done I've done so much stuff that I forgot

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Speaker 1: about a lot of times. But it's like you know,

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Speaker 1: can be. And you know, peace, that's a peace was

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Speaker 2: Which role feels more most authentically used and which one

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, if we're talking like artistry, I

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Speaker 1: love acting, I mean at the core, but stand up

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Speaker 1: Stand up is what you can do for the rest

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Speaker 1: it was like it ain't even really about that no

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Speaker 1: I really enjoy acting, but I'm still going to be

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Speaker 1: in that space where I just want to give people opportunities,

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Speaker 1: with you, man, I mean from the Black Effect to

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like, to me, the underestimated part

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was he was like, I brought it out, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it's just like, but that's a that's to me,

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Speaker 3: So you're the chairman of Team Nick for ten years.

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Speaker 1: Ten years. Yeah, yeah, we was over there fifteen fifteen

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Speaker 2: That story fucked me up because I didn't realize what

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Speaker 1: actually I was telling jokes in my stand up in NBC.

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Speaker 1: Got Talent, And everybody's like, yo, this is the biggest

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern was trying to convince me to stay, and

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Speaker 4: When you posted about you leaving AGC back all those

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Speaker 1: How am I gonna feed my family from this point on?

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Speaker 4: You learn about like how to navigate the race conversations

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Speaker 4: working with corporations from that, because I know the joke

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Speaker 4: I mean we can go anywhere. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: And it gets to a space where you know, spend

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Speaker 1: now even more than talent, I look for someone's drive

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Speaker 3: And understand that stand up comedian. You know how many

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Speaker 3: of course he's going to be.

437
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Speaker 4: They know who he is, but they I think sometimes

438
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 4: people don't understand how putting your reps in doing everything

439
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 4: that Marlon Wayne's has been brought up doing his whole

440
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 4: life prepares you to do whatever you want very well,

441
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 4: because we a lot of us get on stream or

442
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,479
Speaker 4: get online and numbers go and we're just here, we're

443
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Speaker 4: figuring it out. So to see somebody who's really talented

444
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Speaker 4: like him be with Kyson who's also talented, but you know,

445
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 4: like it's like a variety show stuff.

446
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was just fire to see them together.

447
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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, and you're one hundred percent

448
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: right to where that's what we should be one as

449
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: a community, taking our OG's and putting them with a

450
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: young guys and saying like, look, this is we're gonna

451
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 1: polish you. And that's really what wild'n Out always was.

452
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Speaker 1: And that's even why I switched it from like old

453
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 1: school in new school, because it's like we want all

454
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: of that energy because Kai and them they got their

455
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 1: finger on the pulse of what's going on. They got

456
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Speaker 1: all of the young people. But there's also a process

457
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: of being seasoned and longevity in this. And somebody like Marlin,

458
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Speaker 1: like that's my og, that's big bro. Like I've looked

459
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: up to him my entire career because it's like, yo,

460
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 1: that dude has done it all, you know what I mean,

461
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: from starts, like so much stuff that we forgot a

462
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Speaker 1: lot of times. But let's started several black blockbuster movies

463
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Speaker 1: and TV shows, and so it's effortless for him because

464
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Speaker 1: this is what he do.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, not that people don't know him,

466
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Speaker 4: but I think a lot of younger people don't even

467
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Speaker 4: understand the.

468
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 3: Preparation actual talent.

469
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that is exactly what I'm saying.

470
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Speaker 3: Let's think about the car the world.

471
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: We don't even know what they're gonna do yet, just

472
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: their platform introducing them.

473
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Speaker 3: We don't know what them skill sets are.

474
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Speaker 2: You Like the little dude Reggie that be doing the comedy,

475
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 2: I think he's hilarious. I'm looking at him like he

476
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 2: should be in movies and TV like that's what him.

477
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Speaker 2: But then I can see that for Kay as well.

478
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Speaker 1: Nah, because Kyle came on Wilding Out early on, like

479
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 1: it's funny my kids put me up on Ky back

480
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: in the day and he was like, Dad, you gotta

481
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: put Kay on wild Out. We put him on and

482
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Speaker 1: he rocked it. And I was this was before all

483
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: of the stuff, and I was like, yo, man, you

484
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: want to be on the show. And he was like, man,

485
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Speaker 1: you know how much money y'all make it? Right now?

486
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: I was like, I get it, you know what I mean,

487
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: because I was like right at the beginning, but I

488
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: was trying to you know, from the Cays to the

489
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 1: drew Skis, you know, like when they first started bubbling.

490
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm always seeing who's now. I remember even I showed

491
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Speaker 1: speed my son put me up on him when he

492
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Speaker 1: was like sixteen. He was like and like we was

493
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Speaker 1: talking to his parents and everything, trying to figure out

494
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Speaker 1: that it was a way to put a sixteen year

495
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: old on wild'n Out and all that stuff. So you

496
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Speaker 1: they they communicate with the youth in such a way

497
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: that we don't even know how to do it. I

498
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: don't like, it's like I don't know what the algorithm

499
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: is or from the clipping all that stuff, but they're

500
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: communicating differently. So I'm just trying to figure that out

501
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: because that is truly a talent in itself. And then

502
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: if they're they if they're gifted on top of that,

503
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: whether it's musically, whether it's you know, even like I said,

504
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: somebody like Speed, I'm like, dude is a natural athlete

505
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: and has turned probably made more money just doing what

506
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: he does than any professional athlete could because he's just

507
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: been able to figure it out internationally. And it's like,

508
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm so in all those young dudes and what they're doing.

509
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, they just now building a platform and

510
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: they're teenagers there, you know what I mean, Imagine what

511
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: they'll be, you know, five ten years.

512
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Speaker 3: That's how I.

513
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Speaker 5: Inspire what you're trying to do. That's what I mean

514
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Speaker 5: to say.

515
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Speaker 4: It's like, not that they're not talented, but they need

516
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Speaker 4: what you're trying to do at the same time.

517
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Speaker 2: That's why I don't think we're supposed to figure it about.

518
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: Like they have their audience right every now and then

519
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: they invite unks over and yeah, fun also can put

520
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: you in a movie, Yeah, can put you on TV?

521
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 3: Like you know, if that's what you want to do.

522
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: That's why I love the relationship Kevin got with them,

523
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: because that's the way I see it.

524
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Speaker 1: Nah, that's real, and that's that's how we all came up,

525
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Even when I was creating

526
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: wild'n Out and stuff, I would like I said, I

527
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: was talking to Cass like you know, Jamie Fox and

528
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: Marlin and all of them, and they were like, yo,

529
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: they was giving me advice and I was, you know,

530
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Speaker 1: paying attention to the game when I was a teenager

531
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Speaker 1: around them. So then when I got my opportunities to

532
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: be an executive or get deals and produce stuff, I

533
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: had already knew how to do it. So it's like

534
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Speaker 1: it's the same thing. We just got to pass the

535
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Speaker 1: information over to the to the young boys.

536
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Speaker 3: Do you see yourself as a bit a bridge building

537
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Speaker 3: for the next generation?

538
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Speaker 5: Uh?

539
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I never really thought of it like that.

540
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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, when I see what your building,

541
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Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, that's that's needed. I think at

542
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 1: some point I was on that for a minute, but

543
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: then it's like I just got to focus on what's working.

544
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: And then so I know how important wilding Out is

545
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: to the culture, so I can build those bridges through

546
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: that I can continue to be the conduit for those spaces.

547
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's it's still like trying

548
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: to build for the culture as much as it's just

549
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: really just trying to do the best work I could

550
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Speaker 1: possibly do.

551
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Speaker 3: I don't know why you acting like you don't do that.

552
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: I think Wilding Out does that.

553
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: Bro.

554
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Speaker 4: I also do that by the talent that you choose

555
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 4: to work with and some of the projects that you developed,

556
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 4: a lot of people be able.

557
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 5: To do that.

558
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: Soro matt Rife came from from Wilding Up. They was

559
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Speaker 2: already doing anything but.

560
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: Pete all of that stuff. Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean,

561
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: but it's definitely that's and that's why I said, like

562
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: probably I can focus on that and like I said,

563
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: everything I'm trying to build. But before, you know, like

564
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: when we I was, you know, the executive over there

565
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, it was just like we were

566
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: just trying to build stuff for us, you know what

567
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: I mean, and see how much we can and they

568
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: was allowing us to do it, you know what I mean.

569
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: So we were just trying to put on for the culture.

570
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: Where now I think, you know, as I've gotten a

571
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: little older, it's like I gotta pick and choose where

572
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: to put my energy because if I'm just there was

573
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 1: a point where I was like, I want to give

574
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: everybody a deal, and I want to design it and

575
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: I want to figure like I'll be up trying to

576
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: figure out how how can I build a streaming platform

577
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: and how can I do it? And it's like a

578
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff is so draining when you can

579
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: just focus on what's working in rock like that, Well

580
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Speaker 1: you got.

581
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 5: The Nicked Night Show. Now late Night Space? Why late

582
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: night Space is time?

583
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: I think? I mean, I'm be honest. They kind of

584
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, Amazon came at me and was like, yo,

585
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: you should do this, and I was like all right,

586
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, like it was a fun you know take

587
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: on how to flip late night and almost like late

588
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: night radio that used to be like the calling advice

589
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: for relationship and sex and stuff like that. So it

590
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: was a cool, uh we do it that, you know,

591
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: a spot that I have ownership in in Hollywood and

592
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: it's just like a cool little date night vibe to

593
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: where you know, we bring in a professional, whether it's

594
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: a therapist or a psychologists, and you know they give

595
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: the real advice and I'm just there for the commentary,

596
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: but it's super dope because then I do Man on

597
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: the Street bits with it and all that stuff. So

598
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: it's just another thing to do again, something to have

599
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: fun with. But you know, when they presented it to me,

600
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let's get it.

601
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: I saw you on this sand you don't believe in

602
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 3: you don't like the term co parenting.

603
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: I think that was again that they clickbait, I think

604
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: what I said, But in that sense, what I was saying,

605
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: I was like, is parenting you know what I mean?

606
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: I think we start, you know, trying to come up

607
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: with all of these phrases that kind of be like, no,

608
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: we just let's just be the best parents we can

609
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: possibly be, because then once you start trying to define

610
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: what co parenting is, and then it's like then that

611
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: diminishes what our experience as just as parents, you know

612
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: what I mean? I think everybody wants to be the

613
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Speaker 1: best parents to their child. So I was just saying,

614
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't like all of these terms that society just

615
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: starts putting putting on there, especially you know, based off

616
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: of they throw terms at me constantly, So I was like,

617
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: why can't it just be parenting, like why does it?

618
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: But that there's a negative connotation sometimes that it goes in,

619
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: like I've never had a bad experience, so I'd rather

620
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: just like, no, we parent together. Like that just sounds,

621
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: you know, a little better than what co parenting. Co

622
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: parenting sounds like you got lawyers involved and stuff like that,

623
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: which the people who do that, that's that's cool, but

624
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: it's like I feel like, if we're really getting to

625
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: the core of it, parenting is what we're doing.

626
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: I saw or I read the interview that Mariah Kare

627
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: did with Harper's Bazarre where she talked about wanting to

628
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 4: really be fair when you guys parents in situation because

629
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: like you know, growing up with parents who are not

630
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: together anymore is really difficult. Your kids are getting older now,

631
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: have they ever come to you and been like, dad,

632
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: like why are y'all not together?

633
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: When they were a little younger? Really yeah, but now

634
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: you know they fourteen, they kind of get it and

635
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: they like, we've always had a great relationship. I mean,

636
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: even with Mariah saying like I've always we've been present,

637
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, So even in that sense where I remember

638
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: when they were probably like ten eleven, that's kind of

639
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: when they would say, you know, can you guys get

640
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: married again and all that stuff. And it's because when

641
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: they see us as a family, it looks, you know,

642
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: like oh, this is this is what it should be.

643
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: But you know, like I said, they're fourteen now, so

644
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: they kind of they understand that it's just it's a

645
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: little it's it's not picture perfect, but it's their family

646
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: and they love it.

647
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: And then there was another clip people Love coming for You,

648
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Speaker 4: and apparentis though they do get this, does it ever

649
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: get to a point where you're just like, what the hell,

650
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: Like I'm over it? Everything you say.

651
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: Not really be cause it's like it's been that way

652
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: for years, Like I've never like I it's been since

653
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: you had twelve kids.

654
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: It's heightened because you I mean.

655
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: But it's always been able to like, I'm from the

656
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: stuff that we was talking about earlier that they always like,

657
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: I'll say something my mouth forget me in trouble or something,

658
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: and then it's like I got to clear it up.

659
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: And a few years back, I mean, I ain't even

660
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: worried about clearing that stuff up, especially when I have

661
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: so many platforms of my own that it's just like, well,

662
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: long as they promoting it, I'm not even tripping. So

663
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna I'm going to speak my truth and

664
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: if you know, I'm only responsible for what I say,

665
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: and that for what you understand.

666
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there was a clip of you talking about

667
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 4: your daughters and who you want your daughter to date

668
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: and oh yeah, And even with that, I was like,

669
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 4: when you listen to what he was trying to say

670
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: and understand it, you're just taking accountability that you changed

671
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: a lot. The men you are now is who you

672
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: want your kids to date, not.

673
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: Who you were to talk about that.

674
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, we did.

675
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And most men, if you asked them honestly, would

676
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: you be like, yo, would you want your daughter to

677
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: date a young boy like you? Yeah, they're gonna be

678
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: like no, you know, but in that sense, like as

679
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: we mature, you're gonna be like, look, dad did a

680
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff, made a lot of mistakes. Please don't

681
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: find somebody like that, but find somebody that is gonna

682
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: treat you right and do that. And that's that's all

683
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: I was saying. In that sense, it was like I

684
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: was taking accountability and just saying like, yeah, I do

685
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: have five daughters and I want them to make way

686
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: better choices than I made. And I think that's what

687
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: every parent.

688
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: I would want my daughters to have, the version of

689
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: me that went on a healing journey, right, that version

690
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: you can find that early. Yeah, because I know a

691
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: lot of my homegirls not tell me they won't even

692
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: date a guy who's not trying to.

693
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 3: Do some work on thisself. Yeah, in therapy or something

694
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: big fact.

695
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: And that's I think, you know, we obviously share that

696
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: that same energy of like therapy has changed our lives

697
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: in such a way because I used to feed off

698
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: of toxicity, you know, I used to you know, from

699
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: being diagnosed as a narcissist and all that. Like I

700
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: would like that's the type of stuff it was like,

701
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: yeah my ego, Yeah, yeah, is.

702
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 5: Gonna love that?

703
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: You like?

704
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: How does that work?

705
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: It's a pro You gotta one. You gotta have the

706
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: right psychiatrists or even psychologists that they both can do it.

707
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: But it's like a three week process to where you

708
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: gotta they do an in person verbal interview that you

709
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: got to answer all of these questions at a certain pace.

710
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: Then you got to fill out these forms. Then you

711
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: gotta write U and not like they're don't they're not

712
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: trick questions, but there are questions that you know, from

713
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: one to ten, how do you do this? How would

714
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: you handle this in this situation? And then they take

715
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: it takes about a month to come back. And then

716
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: it's a spectrum and it tells you where you land

717
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: on the spectrum of MPD. And you know, luckily, uh,

718
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: like the far end of the spectrum where people a

719
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: lot of people you know, associating narcissism with where there's

720
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: the lack of empathy and rage. I didn't have those,

721
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: Like those are the things where like people just you know,

722
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: they're so into themselves that it's dangerous. But all of

723
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: the you know, the self worth and you know, believing

724
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: that who you are and that you're you know, a

725
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: unique individual and your word matters more than most. Like

726
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: I had all of that, and you know what I mean,

727
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: so that you have to do the work once once

728
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: you've been diagnosed, you're like, oh wow, So even in

729
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: dealing with my children or dealing with the mothers and

730
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: my children, it's like, now I'm equipped with saying, oh, yeah,

731
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm probably gaslighting when I'm doing that, or oh you

732
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: know what I could probably present this a little softer

733
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: or at least with a little bit more compassion, because

734
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: my nature is to be like what, I created this,

735
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm this, I'm that. And then it's like, but that's

736
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: not helping, you know what I mean. We're not looking

737
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: for resolution. I'm just looking to be right and really

738
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: feeding my ego. So I've learned all of that type

739
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: of stuff and it's helped me become a better parent

740
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: and a better partner in a scenario, what'd you get

741
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: diagnosed when? Yeah, that was maybe like two years ago.

742
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: And then because you ever heard of doctor Amen, I

743
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: think you had to see him because he's all online,

744
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: but he does all of these brain scans. He's a

745
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: brain psychiatrist and he has it's called the Aiming Clinics.

746
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: And they did like this whole brain scan on me,

747
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking like, oh, I'm gonna be i'mna have

748
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: a genius brain and all of this stuff, and turns

749
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: out like I had like severe brain damage in my

750
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: frontal lobe what and like, and he would like he said,

751
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm the poster child for ADHD, which I kind of

752
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: always knew, but I believe it came from you know,

753
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: in the brain scans. He did a whole episode on

754
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: his platform about it, but it actually there said there

755
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: was like some trauma probably when I was a kid

756
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: that whether I fell or something like that that actually

757
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: shifted and from that, you know, he's like you were

758
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: probably already ADHD, but because your frontal lobe was damaged

759
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: and then there was like some other We can have

760
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: toxicity of the brain too a lot of times. So

761
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: there's like whether it's like and we don't even know

762
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: it in our communities, like everything from like mold and

763
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: all of that stuff can actually affect how we function.

764
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously you know it's the gut to

765
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: mine ratio, Like just the stuff we're putting in our

766
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: bodies actually affects our mind. So I learned all of

767
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: this stuff within like the last two years about like

768
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: having a better brain and having you know, being able

769
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: to control your mind and accept the things that you've

770
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: been diagnosed with but also know that you can get better.

771
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 5: What made you want to go out it?

772
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm tripping.

773
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: Because, like you know, when you started having a bunch

774
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: of the kids, right, there's a lot of people around

775
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: in the mental health space.

776
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: Spiritual leaders.

777
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: They would talk to me one person in particular, and

778
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say her name, and she was like,

779
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: he has narcisstic personality disorder blah blah blah. And I'm like, Nick,

780
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: because to your point, when I think of narcissism, I

781
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: think of lack of empathy rage.

782
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not nick, not she called it.

783
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: So you say that, it's like wow, nah, And it's true,

784
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it's like it gets

785
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: there's there's certain things, especially on the spectrum, where I

786
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: had to own up and be like, man, I did

787
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: do that, you know what I mean. I did try

788
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: to make it all about me. I did try to

789
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: create my own and that like those are those are

790
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: the concepts we used to embrace, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

791
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm the boss, I created this, it's my world. Chicks

792
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: gotta you know, fall in line and all of that stuff. Yeah.

793
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: So but what he was that ain't how you had kids.

794
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a process. That's part of it.

795
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: So what you baby Mama number twelve.

796
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: But that's I mean, you learn, Man I was, but

797
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: I was on that, you know what I mean. I

798
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: was on that for a long long period of time.

799
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: And a lot of obviously too. A lot of it,

800
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: if we're being completely honest, A lot of it is

801
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: the the trauma that I was experiencing and not knowing

802
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: how to handle divorce, you know what I mean, and

803
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: like me acting out because I'm like, oh, I'm the

804
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: man now and I can instead of healing and doing

805
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: what I should have actually did, I just jumped out there.

806
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: And because I had everything from wilding out and all

807
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: the things, is like, those were all distractions from the

808
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: actual work that I probably.

809
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 3: Should Did you feel like you two things?

810
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: Did you feel like you failed because the marriage failed?

811
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: Or did you were you worried about what the industry

812
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: would think because the industry was already on some.

813
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 3: How Did Nick Cannon get Mariah anyway?

814
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was a little bit of both.

815
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: Like I said, I hadn't did the work, you know

816
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I was just like, just as

817
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: long as I could keep moving, you know what I mean,

818
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: like long, and I didn't get a chance to slow

819
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: down until I got in therapy. But I was just like, look,

820
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I just got to keep making money. I gotta stay hot,

821
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: I gotta stay funny, and everything else to figure itself.

822
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: Out and I just didn't do the work. So then

823
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: I looked up, you know, twelve kids later, and I'm like, wow,

824
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: I could have did things very differently. But you know,

825
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: I stand firm on all of my decisions because you know,

826
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: I love all my kids, I love my family infrastructure.

827
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: But I know it all started from a place of

828
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: pain and not really healing properly, and you know, because

829
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: I had access to everything, so I just allowed that

830
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: to kind of cloud of my decision making.

831
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: So you think having all those kids was a response

832
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: to your.

833
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: Trauma, Yeahred hundred now that now I'm learning that now. Yeah,

834
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: And it wasn't. And it wasn't like I was acting out.

835
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: It was more of being careless, being frivolous with my

836
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: process because I could do it because I had the money,

837
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: because I had the access to whoever, and however I

838
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: wanted to move. And you know, okay, they coming at me,

839
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: they asking me opposed to like doing the mature thing

840
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, well it probably makes more sense to

841
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: do this, and then obviously life happens as well. So

842
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't by It wasn't like oh I'm gonna go

843
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: have twelve kids. It was more about like, yo, I'm

844
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: gonna just live life and have fun and whatever happens happens.

845
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: I can handle it when it probably, you know, you know,

846
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: being almost forty five, now, I could sit back and

847
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: be like, Yeah, if I would have thought the process

848
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: through a little bit more and took time to actually

849
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: do the inner work, things might have been a little different.

850
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: In certain scenario.

851
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: You wouldn't have twelve kids.

852
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: I don't need. I don't know, you know what I mean?

853
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: Like that, That's the only thing because every and I said,

854
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: I've always said this, Every child that I had was

855
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: made out of love and there were strong relationships. It's

856
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: just it was if I would have did the work

857
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: in the healing after getting divorced, I probably would have

858
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: took my time and a lot of a lot of

859
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: other scenarios, and for whatever reason, I thought that was

860
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: the answer. A lot of times it was like, oh, well,

861
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I'm gonna figure it out over here.

862
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure it out over here, apposed to like yore,

863
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: Now you're leaving trauma every every step of the way,

864
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: instead of you know, fixing it from its origin and

865
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: then being able to present itself. But then I still

866
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: I mean, like concepts like monogamy and stuff like that,

867
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: I still feel the same way, but it actually has.

868
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 5: Your view on that change then.

869
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: Nah, not really not for me, you know, And that

870
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: again that probably that's the work of you know, whether

871
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: you want to go back to like Freud's process of

872
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: like my childhood and my upbringing, I grew up in

873
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: a very unorthodox situation in household, so I've always understood that,

874
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, love happens differently, so monogamy has never really

875
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: been my thing. But so that I'm pretty sure there's

876
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: that plays a part.

877
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 3: Of it as well too.

878
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: How the women that are that you have kids with,

879
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: how do they handle the healed version of you now?

880
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: Because in the trauma you're talking about, I'm sure they're

881
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: coming to you with conversations that you're having differently now

882
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 4: than you were before you started to take the time.

883
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean shouts out to all my therapists, uh

884
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: because not no, not because there's you know, I'm definitely

885
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: I have family therapy with some of my kids, you

886
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: know what i mean, because there they have to understand

887
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: that this is an unorthodox, you know, non traditional scenario,

888
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: and I want them to be in the healthiest space

889
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: as possible. Then I have my own personal then I

890
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: actually do do relationship you know, therapy as well. So

891
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: depending on who like I, there's there's been something.

892
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: He said, depending on who take.

893
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: No. But in a sense, because I you know, through

894
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, trial and error, what I've learned with the

895
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: mothers of my children. They sometimes they'll say, can we

896
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: go to therapy together? And I say, of course, you know,

897
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: so then they get a safe space to present, you know,

898
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: their issues with me and what I'm doing, and you know,

899
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: I retreat a lot of times in my nature. That's

900
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: a lot of that's that's one of my defense mechanisms

901
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: is that I just be like, I don't want.

902
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: To deal with it.

903
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: So I've learned that all right, if we can have

904
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: a safe setting to where and I'd say, whoever you pick,

905
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: you know, because I have my own you know, counseling

906
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: and things like that. But if they find somebody that

907
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: they like and they want to invite me in, then

908
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: we'll sit and we'll do that. And that's so I

909
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: feel like that's once because there's so many once you

910
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: and what that does, that gives you the tools to

911
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: know how to communicate with each other right, and there's

912
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: like because there's even things that thinks, like there's the

913
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: goutment theory they call like the four horsemen that I

914
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: would teach this to anybody who's in any kind of

915
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: relationship because those are the four Yeah, it's like the

916
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: four things to avoid when having a disagreement with your partner.

917
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: And it's like, I think the first one is like

918
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: obviously criticism, and criticism turns into uh, just it just

919
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: spirals and it gets into this space where you find

920
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: yourself arguing more than actually finding the solution of what

921
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: the actual issue is. So if you can instead of

922
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: just instantly saying, well, you made me feel like this,

923
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: it's like, well, can I share with you how I'm

924
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: feeling right now? And then in those things where you

925
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: can actually get to the resolution and the solution so

926
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: much faster, but you can allow yourself to emote, and

927
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: then it's almost even like presenting to your partner and

928
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: be like, you know what, I really appreciate I see

929
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: you trying here, here, here, and here, but can we

930
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: work on this, this, this and this? And then when

931
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: you can find somebody that you can communicate with like that,

932
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: it actually you really won't have any problems because you

933
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: have the same goals and agenda, so you just go

934
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: about it in different ways.

935
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: Emotionally, I know, you got to go to this, so

936
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: you gotta go through dirty.

937
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: But I was going to ask, how do you deal

938
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: with the women you have kids with dating other people,

939
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: especially with like Mariah care Right, it's very public essentially

940
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 4: her Anderson pacop do y'all have conversations about who they're

941
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: dating when they meet the kids, Like is that normal

942
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: traditional for you?

943
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, I don't have no problems with it.

944
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: It never really did. I mean, I think, you know,

945
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: obviously Mariah has been in a few relationships, you know,

946
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: since we've been divorcing, it's always been cool, you know

947
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: what I mean, and you know, and even making sure

948
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: that it's healthy for our kids well, and they've handled

949
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: all of it, you know, extremely well. And even you know,

950
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: there's a few other mothers and my children who have

951
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: relationships and stuff, and it's like, again, probably if you

952
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I probably if you go back

953
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: a couple of interviews. The last time I was in here,

954
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: there was times where I was like, Nah, this is mine.

955
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: She can't she can't them. Yeah, yeah, like if she

956
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: go do what you want to do, I'm not. But

957
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: now I'm in a space where like I just want

958
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: everybody to be healthy and happy, and if someone else

959
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: can make you happy, please by all means, you know,

960
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: long and especially if it's gonna for the betterment of

961
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: our child. Like yeah, like a lot of times that

962
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: I see that as as you know, help in that

963
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: sense to where because you want the mother to be

964
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: in the most healed and healthy space that she can

965
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: possibly be in, and whatever gets you there, then that's

966
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: what should be. Now. Of course, the little bit of

967
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: ego that that I struggle with each and every day,

968
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: it's like I want to make sure if you want

969
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: to be with me, then I want to be with you,

970
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: and we can you know, reciprocate that energy. But I'm

971
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: not going to force anybody to to be, you know,

972
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: down with me if you don't want to. But you know,

973
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: if you do, I appreciate that.

974
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: You never wanted to get at the board.

975
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: Digit uh ah, I don't know. That's that's complicated now obviously, No,

976
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Like the easy question is like nah, like that you said,

977
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: I felt like a complete failure on so many different

978
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: levels because of that, but I also knew it was

979
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: probably that's what's was. It was best for you know,

980
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: specifically our kids and and kind of being able to

981
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: be the best parents we could be. So it was

982
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: a tough decision. It was definitely a tough decision, but

983
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't change it, you know what I mean,

984
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: looking back, I think it was the it was the

985
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: right decision. And I think, you know, when I look

986
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: at all of the amazing things Mariah's doing right now,

987
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, that's that's dope, you know what

988
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Like she's in such a wonderful space, and

989
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing all right, and the kids are thriving.

990
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: So I'm like, we we did. We made the best

991
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: decision for us, because I don't know if it would

992
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: have been that way, if I would have been the immature,

993
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: young dude. I was trying to figure it all out

994
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: back then.

995
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: And it's just wild because you know, you said you're

996
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: trauma response with the God damn be it as many

997
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: women as possible. But if in that moment you would

998
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: have just said, maybe even the Mariah or whoever you

999
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 2: hurt my feelings right, like, you know, my feelings are hurt.

1000
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's so hard for men to say it is,

1001
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: and to me it wasn't. It's like I hurt my feelings.

1002
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: And that's what I didn't I couldn't understand because the decision.

1003
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: I was so insecure and really letting the outside noise,

1004
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: uh get to me in that sense of like where

1005
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: people will calling me like a boy told and that

1006
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: I was, And then I felt like I watched my

1007
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: own existence kind of get put in the shadow, and

1008
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: so I didn't know how to deal with that. So

1009
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: then there was this the ego in me was acting

1010
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: out where opposed to like and I was trying, you

1011
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was like, nah, I can

1012
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: do it. I can hold it down in it, but

1013
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: it was just eating away at me. It was like

1014
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm being myself. I don't feel

1015
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: like I'm getting the opportunity, and I can't be in

1016
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: somebody shadow my entire like I want to make money,

1017
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: I want to be a CEO, I want to be

1018
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: a billionaire and all of that stuff. And it was

1019
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: I was having all these experiences that I was creating

1020
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: on my own, like it wasn't reality, Like I was

1021
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: the one making all of this stuff up. Like I

1022
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: had a loving wife who just loved me and we

1023
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: had amazing but I was like, nah, I gotta gotta

1024
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: wear suits every day and I gotta be like I'm

1025
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: the ball, like and it just created this monster in

1026
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: me that you know, took me in a direction that

1027
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: I really didn't have to go in. But the ego

1028
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: of wanting to be the man in my household, wanted

1029
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: to be the man in the industry, wanting to prove

1030
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: everybody wrong, that took over. And then therefore, you know,

1031
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: years later looking back and lots of therapy and like,

1032
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: oh man, that was purely my narcissistic ego really tearing

1033
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: me down, which was really all of these insecurities that

1034
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: I had never worked through.

1035
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 4: Do you ever have times where like you like slipped

1036
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: back into it. Because we did a segment up here

1037
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: where Mariah care was saying that she was she had

1038
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 4: didty tupac oh yeah, and then Charlotte joked like she

1039
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: didn't need to, but you reposted it. When you reposted it,

1040
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, Nick, can it like stopped playing

1041
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 4: with him?

1042
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: But I mean the thing also that Charlie knows this

1043
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: about me, Like I'm I'm all for the jokes. I'm

1044
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: all for the good time. Like you, I'm never going

1045
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: nothing can make me mad, you know what I mean?

1046
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: So like that type. And it's funny like even in

1047
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: our house, like Maria used to have like literally the

1048
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: picture of Tupac in the bubble bath or she got

1049
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: a big giant version. I think, you know what the

1050
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: like on are the bathrooms and stuff like that. But

1051
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: it's like women love Tupac like that. Ain't like that's

1052
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: one of them things you can't You ain't never gonna

1053
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: be able to compare yourself to Tupac.

1054
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 5: You never asked her like why this picture of all

1055
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 5: the pictures?

1056
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: I think you know, it was a David la Chapelle picture.

1057
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: And now she got a relationship with all that stuff.

1058
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: But I get it. I wasn't intimidated by it. I

1059
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: mean I got ads too.

1060
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: They wove Smith ever bond over that.

1061
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 4: Now I understand Nick at Night in the show and

1062
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 4: the love and the relationship and advice and all that

1063
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 4: stuff with you because you hear right today, I'm like, okay,

1064
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: I get it. Before I'm like why and not a relationship.

1065
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: It's so funny too, because when people hear like, oh,

1066
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: Nick can't give an it. I'm not giving no advice,

1067
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: Like if anything, I can get insight. But there's professionals

1068
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: there that are given the real advice. But it's just

1069
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm going through a healing process. I'm working and a

1070
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: lot of the therapists that you see on their therapists

1071
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: that I've actually really worked with in the past and

1072
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: kind of done stuff, so I know their history and

1073
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: that and they can actually really help. And that's just

1074
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: the same thing that I mean, Charlotte does this as well.

1075
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: It's like we just got to encourage doing the work

1076
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: in therapy, and especially for black men, because we look

1077
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: at it as a bad thing. We look at it

1078
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: as like yo, you must be crazy or something wrong

1079
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: with you. Where it's like, nah, man, it's really saved

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Speaker 1: my life in so many aspects, from relationships to personal

1081
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: work to you know, working through trauma. It's made me

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00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: a better person. So if I can offer up platform

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00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: from whether it's a the Council culture platform, whether it's

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00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon at Night, where I can introduce psychologists and

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00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: therapists to the space and people, you know, brace it,

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00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm with it.

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Speaker 3: No, you inspired me I need to dig deeper. I

1088
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: want to talk to that guy that you talked about

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Speaker 3: that did.

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Speaker 1: The brain scan and doctor amen and diagnosed you with

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Speaker 1: the n He wasn't the one that did the MPD,

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00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: but he was, like he actually helped me because when

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00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: he found out that I got diagnosed with MPD called

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00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: me and he was like, he was like you, He's like,

1095
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: you definitely have MPD, but I believe it's because of

1096
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: your brain and not because of the decisions that you make.

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00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: And so that actually helped me understand it because that's

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00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: because once you once somebody labels you with something, then

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00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: you're like oh, and he was like, no, you actually

1100
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: he's like, we can fix all of that. And then

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Speaker 1: so he actually, you know, gave me a process of

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00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: like how to you know, physically work through all of

1103
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: that trauma and actually have a healthier brain.

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Speaker 2: My last question, if you had a child with every

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00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: woman you ever had sex with, how many kids would

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00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: you have?

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Speaker 1: Damn? I don't know. That's like I don't every I

1108
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: don't know.

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00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 3: That wasn't a real question to be twenty years from now.

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Speaker 3: Nick can.

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Speaker 1: Legacy, I don't know, man, somebody that really just it's

1112
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: weird because I'm in a space right now. I feel like,

1113
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, obviously we live I feel like we live

1114
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: in a simulation and it's as fast as this world

1115
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: is moving. We're in this like dystopian society right now,

1116
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: and I'm almost the present is so important, you know

1117
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: what i mean. I'm not even thinking about the future

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00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: other than my children and just wanting to create a

1119
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: best space for them. But because of I mean, I'm

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00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: sure you've heard like from how Fast AI is Moving

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00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: and even like I'm like, have y'all ever read that

1122
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 1: the book from back in the Day George orwell nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty four. Yeah, yo, yeah, it's so it's happening as

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00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: we speak. So was this dude. He wrote a book

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Speaker 1: right after World War Two called in nineteen forty nine.

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00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: It's called nineteen eighty four because he was talking about

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00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: the future and what he thought he was and it said,

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Speaker 1: I mean you've heard like Big Brothers Watching and all

1129
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: of that type of stuff, but it's literally what today

1130
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: is to where they had like as the Ministry of

1131
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: Truth and they were like literally changing history, and that

1132
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: it was dude's job to actually go and change history

1133
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: for the powers that be it was a constant war

1134
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: always going on so they could perpetuate money. It was

1135
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 1: like everything was under surveillance and they had this stuff

1136
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: called like truth speak and knew and it's like wow

1137
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: when you look at how one it was predicted, But

1138
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: how really stuff like time and all that stuff is

1139
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: so man made that I always, at least the space

1140
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm in now, I'm like, I'm not even thinking about

1141
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: the future in that sense. I'm just really trying to

1142
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: operate in the present as much as I probably and

1143
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: be the best person I could be in the present,

1144
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: because I do I feel like this this is a simulation,

1145
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to get as much as we're supposed

1146
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: to get out of it because it can change like that,

1147
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: and I just think, I mean, obviously we all know

1148
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: what's going on in the world. It's like it's so

1149
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: much poison out there that the future is not inspiring

1150
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: to me. So I just want to be the best

1151
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: I can be in the moment now. My lineage obviously

1152
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: is all about my children, but I don't even that

1153
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: legacy thing. I kind of and also one of my

1154
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 1: therapists that taught me that that legacy conversation can also

1155
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: be associated with the narcissistic approach as well, because now

1156
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: I'm building my legacy when that's all ego as well

1157
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: to putting your name on buildings and buying all of

1158
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: this stuff. It's like, we think that's what we should

1159
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: be achieving. But in a if we're going to get

1160
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: to the the utopian aspect of what we all do,

1161
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: we all should be each other like this.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: If you love nineteen eighty four, I want to recommend

1164
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Speaker 2: because I know people are going to go buy that

1165
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 2: book after they heard and talk about the Octavia Butler's

1166
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 2: parable of.

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00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: The Sour Sore.

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00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you should read that too, because that talks

1169
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: about like what's going on now. She put that out

1170
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three, and it talks about Los Angeles

1171
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, and it's ravaged by climate change

1172
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: and social inequality instability.

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00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, nah, I'm a definitely top that one. But yeah,

1174
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: it's just so weird. I mean, like, obviously it's to

1175
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: know that it's always been in the books and nothing's new,

1176
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: and then it really makes you step back and be like, yo,

1177
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: people know, the people who know, they know, and they

1178
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: put it in the books and we just come we

1179
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: glaze over it a lot of times, but it's like, yo,

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00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: this is we living in a time. And I think

1181
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: we've probably always been living in this time, but it's

1182
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: so potent right now because of the energy that's out there,

1183
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: and it's really it's a dystopian society, but you know,

1184
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: there is hope that we can get it to the

1185
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: other side of it, and you know that's where I

1186
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: hope we're going in that direction.

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Scott Cannon. Ladies and gentlemen, sir, thank you for

1188
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: joining us.

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00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: My brother.

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Speaker 1: This is fun.

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00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club.

1192
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: Hold on every day, a wake ago, class up, the

1193
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Y'all finish for y'all done.