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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast scores more than the Browns offense.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanzas and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: truly a room filled with heroes. Chris Westling, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What up, boys? Westling's back. We've got them back.

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Speaker 1: The prodigalsun has returned here. Good to be back in

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Speaker 1: the studio. And you've got just a tiny bit more

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Speaker 1: of hair on top of your head. He's letting it

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Speaker 1: grow in the New West. It's a it's an experiment

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Speaker 1: for a new month. I might whack it at any point.

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Speaker 1: Have you checked him with a charge to remind them

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Speaker 1: that you still are an employee here? I have not.

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Speaker 1: You think I was going for more than seven days? Um?

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Speaker 1: Today is Sunday Sunday Night. It is our annual uh

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Speaker 1: look back at the Sunday Night games, and there were

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Speaker 1: a lot of good games to go through. We'll get

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Speaker 1: going before before that, want to say hi to kay

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Speaker 1: Rich behind the glass. It's up, kay Rich. K Rich

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Speaker 1: said before the podcast started that you did not know

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Speaker 1: who you two was my favorite band ever and it

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Speaker 1: really really hurt me. Singer, Well, you knew that Bono

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Speaker 1: was a person that was famous on some level. You

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Speaker 1: had no idea was attached to a world famous rock band,

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Speaker 1: totally under the radar group though a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have never heard of that group. Um, all right, Greg,

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Speaker 1: what you're about to say something? Go ahead? Well, no,

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Speaker 1: you you had called this our annual look back at

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Speaker 1: the week that was. I want to do it more

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Speaker 1: often than that. I love this podcast. Did I say that?

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm frankly, I'm a little nervous to have

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Speaker 1: the whole group back together. It's like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's almost this is like the real thing.

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Speaker 1: We're all together. But uh, let's get going. Let's get

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Speaker 1: right to it, and we'll start with the game of

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Speaker 1: the day, the game of the week. Peyton Manning threw

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Speaker 1: for four hundred in three yards and five touchdowns, four

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Speaker 1: of them to Eric Decker, and the Denver Broncos held

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Speaker 1: off a furious rally to beat the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: thirty five when he ate Sunday season control of the

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Speaker 1: a f C West UH West in your first day

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Speaker 1: back at the Officer, first Sunday back, you watch that game.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what you were taking out of it. I

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Speaker 1: thought the story of the game was Peyton manning to

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Speaker 1: arm looked just fine, nothing wrong with it whatsoever. I

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Speaker 1: believe he was eight of ten on passes over fifteen

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Speaker 1: yards for two and sixty eight yards. He looked great.

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Speaker 1: He threw perfect passes to Decker down the seam, hit

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Speaker 1: to Marius Thomas on his seventy seven yard game, hit

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Speaker 1: Wes Welker really nicely on one diving catch. He looked great.

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Speaker 1: The only time he had trouble, and this was Greg

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Speaker 1: rosenthal theory after watching film. When he doesn't set his feet,

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Speaker 1: if he's forced to run, or if he has pressure

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Speaker 1: up in the interior, that's when we see the fluttering passes.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense to me, and and I think we

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Speaker 1: saw that today. He's I saw him throw every time

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Speaker 1: I looked over, I felt like he was dropping one

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Speaker 1: I would think if you're a Broncos fan, is a

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Speaker 1: very encouraging game to see the offense get back on

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Speaker 1: track like this. Can I ask a question? I want

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Speaker 1: watching this a bit from home after I left the office,

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Speaker 1: or all afternoon. Now I understand the cause, so many

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Speaker 1: They don't adjust the entire time. I feel like, if

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Speaker 1: I think it's a fair criticism, but like you said,

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Speaker 1: what are they gonna do about it? Right? If it's

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Speaker 1: not him, it's someone else. Yeah, it's pick your poison offense.

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Speaker 1: We've been saying that since August. Do you think now

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Speaker 1: you know, break all the records. That was your big

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Speaker 1: So I don't see why they can't do that. How

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Speaker 1: that was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: at his back in plenty of cities and metropolitan areas

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Speaker 1: need water. In your post today, you you said that

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Speaker 1: have to win out most likely, right, because that Patriots

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Speaker 1: maybe the Broncos don't need that game, but the Raiders

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Speaker 1: I'm just impressed that the Eagles defense has been such

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Speaker 1: moving the ball in The Eagles defense was the difference.

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Speaker 1: Billy Davis. We've talked about him a lot of creative

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Speaker 1: blitz is seemed to confuse Carson, Palmer baited him into

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Speaker 1: Now they're two seven and five teams in the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: Could we possibly have to playoff teams from the NFC East?

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Speaker 1: That would have been stunning. I don't really think plane

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Speaker 1: you said eight and eight was gonna win this division

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Speaker 1: his interception streaks should be over. He made a terrible

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Speaker 1: that because they're a run team. Why don't they just

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Speaker 1: not change their offense? Yeah? Care Rich, Why didn't they

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Speaker 1: He had a tough game today. That defense is just

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Speaker 1: too good. He made some bad throws, He had an ugly,

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Speaker 1: What he's kind of I had a funky here though,

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Speaker 1: like he was the only receiver early in the season,

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Speaker 1: then they went away from him for a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and now the last two games he's been great again.

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Speaker 1: He's had a renaissance, like a mid season renaissance, because

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Speaker 1: he's very frustrating for Danny m and Dola Fantasy and there,

435
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Speaker 1: because you're kind of like, yeah, wait, uh, we're gonna

436
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Speaker 1: let it pass racism. I've always thought with the Patriots,

437
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: none of it is predictable. It's all just matchups. And

438
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: he happens to be getting the good ones that week.

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Speaker 1: That's about it. And Tompkins got hurt today. Ryan Townehill

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Speaker 1: through for thirty one yards and two touchdown passes, leading

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins to a twenty three to three win over

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets on Sunday, keeping the Dolphins playoff

443
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Speaker 1: hopes alive and burying essentially my New York Jets. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This was a game notable for the Jets at least

445
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Speaker 1: because you know, Smith finally got benched in a meaningful

446
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Speaker 1: way after a terrible halftime, and you know, after terrible

447
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: first half in which he completed four passes for twenty

448
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Speaker 1: nine yards had an eight point three quarterback rating U

449
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Speaker 1: Matt Simms came on and because Matt Simms also stinks, uh,

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Speaker 1: he didn't do much nine of eighteen seventy nine yards

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Speaker 1: and an interception, and that that might be worse. And

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Speaker 1: this is listen, this is a this is a we

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Speaker 1: talked about this. This is a terrible situation for poor

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. We were all excited, well I think we

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Speaker 1: all kind of like Rex in here for the most part,

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Speaker 1: and we thought he was in good position to save

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Speaker 1: his job. Now the worst case scenario has come to

458
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Speaker 1: roost where Gino Smith has the Geno Coaster is obviously

459
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Speaker 1: off the rails, floating deeper into the Atlantic. And what

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Speaker 1: is Rex have Now? What does he have to choose

461
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Speaker 1: from a completely untested and uh quarterback and met sims

462
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Speaker 1: that obviously he's not the future either, and he's trying

463
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Speaker 1: to save his job. Well, you know, and you made

464
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Speaker 1: a good point in your post about this. Stand John

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Speaker 1: Edsick can jump in and say I'm gonna get rid

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Speaker 1: of Rex Ryan. But how about the fact that John

467
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: Edzick uh drafted two players, one of them at quarterback,

468
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Speaker 1: the other to replace Durrell Reeves and they both failed.

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Speaker 1: Zick lives in the shadows he doesn't like to talk

470
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Speaker 1: publicly a lot, but his first draft is not looking good.

471
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Speaker 1: He had just got the Defensive Rookie of the Year,

472
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Speaker 1: the top three picks John Edzicks for year. D Milner

473
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Speaker 1: was benched for the third time the season. Today was

474
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Speaker 1: absolute train wreck. Today. Number two Sheldon Richardson, a legit

475
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Speaker 1: defensive player of the Rookie of the Year candidate, and

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Speaker 1: the third is Geno Smith, who leads the NFL in interceptions,

477
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Speaker 1: also got benched today. Not not a great situation for

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Speaker 1: my favorite stat possibly possibly evers this year. If if

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles throws an interception on his next fifty five zero,

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Speaker 1: he still is a higher passer rating than how is

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Speaker 1: that possible that Philly beat guy Reuben frank That's awesome.

482
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Speaker 1: If he I saw the follow up tweet, he would

483
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Speaker 1: then have a sixty point four passer rating or sixty

484
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Speaker 1: point five passer rating for fools. Sixty point four for

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Speaker 1: the numbers from today's game are just outrageous. Thirteen for

486
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Speaker 1: seventy eight total yards. As a team, their combined QBR

487
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Speaker 1: was four point seven. Matt Simms had a three, and

488
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: Gina Smith was under two. And I because I'll always

489
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Speaker 1: know this guy's voice just from back in the old

490
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Speaker 1: inside the NFL days with Len Dawson and Nick Bonacotti. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Gary Myers asked Rex after the game about the Mark

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Speaker 1: Sanchez decision in the preseason. Um again threw it. Adam said,

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Speaker 1: you know, now, knowing how it played out, do you

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Speaker 1: have regrets about playing Mark in the fourth quarter. This

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00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: is a game that was played on August, by the way,

496
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Speaker 1: and Rex you could see like him melting on the

497
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Speaker 1: inside because it's like, Rex can't answer this anymore and

498
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: he knows that he messed up. He can't, he can't,

499
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Speaker 1: there's nothing else he could do. And all these guys

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Speaker 1: are kind of I feel like relishing in the fact that, yeah, Rex,

501
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Speaker 1: ultimately that decision did burn you. Well, I I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if it would matter. I mean,

503
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Speaker 1: he's throwing a David Nelson and Kellen Winslow and Comby.

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Speaker 1: This is not a group that's going to be winning

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Speaker 1: with many Now. Whether or not Sanchez would have been

506
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Speaker 1: better or worse is obviously up for debate, but he

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Speaker 1: would have been in the game. You would in the

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00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: mind if somebody just waiting for Rex Ryan to fail,

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Speaker 1: what do you think that Mark Sanchez is some kind

510
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: of savior calling Jeff Cumberlin. Yeah, let's uh do we

511
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: think this is a FOK team? I mean you're kind

512
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: of talking about I know the committee has to meet later,

513
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: but I mean, he's got to get together the hell out.

514
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: I gotta get the Dana show. I can't believe only

515
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Speaker 1: three weeks ago I got a hero pick for picking

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Speaker 1: against the Jets. It wasn't that long ago that people

517
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Speaker 1: have to pick the Jets four more weeks after this.

518
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Speaker 1: Let's give the Dolphins some credit too. I think they

519
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: played really well last week. We have to give him

520
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: a little credit. They get to pull it out of me.

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Speaker 1: Tannehill played very well in the second half, but they

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Speaker 1: did every if the Jets first half not great. If

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Speaker 1: he missed the missing a lot of throws, a lot

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Speaker 1: of throws for a lot of weeks. If the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: if the Jets were even halfway functional as a team

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Speaker 1: right now, then this game, this game would have been

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Speaker 1: totally different because the Dolphins gave up so many um

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Speaker 1: chances to jump out to a big lead. I have

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Speaker 1: an idea in the a f C. Remember the old

530
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Speaker 1: nine playoff brackets where you just had five teams get

531
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: your three best division winners and have the other to

532
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: play a wild card game. You have no sixth seed.

533
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: No one's worthy. I could buy that. I like that.

534
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't feel resounding supporting. When I listened

535
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: to the podcast, I heard this, uh this notion that

536
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Speaker 1: nine and seven is gonna win. I'll be shocked if

537
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: anybody goes nine and seven. It's gonna have to be

538
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Speaker 1: Baltimore winning three out of four to do it. It's tough,

539
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: but they've played fairly well lately. Spare the view. They

540
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: have to go to Detroit, home to the Patriots, and

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Speaker 1: then at Cincinnati in the last three games. You guys,

542
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: just don't you know this Dolphins team is fighting against

543
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: all odds in the in the media. You know, Jonathan

544
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: Martin and all this Wells, likable, scrappy. My fantasy team

545
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: name next year is gonna be uh gum shoot ted Wells.

546
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan hit a thirty six yard field goal three

547
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: minutes into overtime to lift the Atlanta Falcons to a

548
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: one win. It's a big day for kickers around the NFL.

549
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: A lot of big kicks at the end of the game. Anyway,

550
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: for the Falcons to it to lead the Falcons thirty

551
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: one win over the Bills in Buffalo's annual sad home

552
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: game in Toronto West. You watch this game with By

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00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: the way, there's thirty seven thousand people in Toronto to

554
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: watch this game. They staged this game on a random

555
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: Tuesday in September and just decided to show it. Now, wait,

556
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: what does that? What does that even mean? Well, why

557
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: would anybody watch these two teams? It's it's like an

558
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: experiment or something. Nobody would watch these two teams because

559
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: it's unfolding in Canada. The Canadians are watching it. Fred

560
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: Jackson was involved some fancy moves. Fred Jackson the replica

561
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: jersey worn by rob Ford, Toronto's crack Mayer at the game,

562
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: eating chicken wings, stealing someone's seat in the stadium, a

563
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: very surreal scene. Fred Jackson was also responsible for the

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Speaker 1: first weekly Around the League podcast clown Suit of the

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Speaker 1: Week award we are we are breaking this out. He

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Speaker 1: put a move on Desmond Truefont, Falcon's rookie cornerback that

567
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: had Greg and I in looking at f Jacks in admiration.

568
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: A nice year for f Jacks. By the way, Let's

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Speaker 1: give f Jackson credit. Let's put a clown two on

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Speaker 1: him and this this might ruin the falcons chances of

571
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Speaker 1: getting to Davan Clowney, so they're still get him. The

572
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: Bills really blew this game too, didn't they? Yes, they did.

573
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson was a big culprit with a fumble. Uh.

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00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Bill's outplayed the Falcons most of the game. Give Matt

575
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Speaker 1: Ryan some credit. He played better than e. J. Manuel.

576
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: His offensive line was terrible once again. He got sacked

577
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: six times, hit nine times. Steven Jackson did a pretty

578
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: good game, but Matt Ryan really brought them back and

579
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: won the game for him. Cecil Shorts caught a twenty

580
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass from Chad Henny with forty seconds left,

581
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: rallying the Jacksonville Jaguars to a thirty win over the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns on Sunday. Mark I I said on Friday,

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00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: I could never pick a game where Brendan Wheeden was

584
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: the starter. But it looked like it was actually gonna

585
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: blow up in my face. Apparently it didn't work out

586
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: that way because they did not get it done. This

587
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: might have been listen, Cleveland's had a lot of bad

588
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: losses since they've come back into the league. This has

589
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: to be top three because if you can't beat Jacksonville,

590
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: a two win Jacksonville team, Yeah, exactly. The season goes

591
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: along markets more and more aggravated by that soundclip, but

592
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: keep bringing it looks because it's the best. It looks good.

593
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: Kill Mark was. It's like, I paused for the SoundBite

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Speaker 1: to finish, and then I will continue to think silently

595
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: going out and it was perfect. Marks. Really that was

596
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: a little bit vile that look that you gave back there,

597
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: not in penstional, not towards you. I'm sorry, Crystal Iry

598
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: this I don't know. It was towards the sky. Someone

599
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: told me. Someone told me coming into this game that

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00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Weeden was going to connect with Josh Gordon for

601
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty one yards and they were gonna

602
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville. This would have felt like the game you

603
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: just walk in and roll through. But instead, what what

604
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: else happened is that on three drives in about a

605
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: minute two and a half minutes, right before halftime, weed

606
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: And throws two crushing interceptions, awful throws, and then fumbles

607
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: the ball on a display of terrible ball control. That

608
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: was the game right there. That allowed Jacksonville right back

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Speaker 1: into it. And then yeah, Hayden, who I think is

610
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: a pro Bowl level cornerback, get Cecil Shorts gets right

611
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: behind them on that play. We even seen him give

612
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: up that kind of throw this year. Everything ugly that

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00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: could have happened happened that series of inaptitude from Weed

614
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: and you were loving it. Well, always have a leslie

615
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to the unprecedented move of an official

616
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: team's twitter feed trolling the starting quarterback. Did it really did? Listen?

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Speaker 1: We didn't? Continues and this is my last point. Remember

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Speaker 1: the two weeks in a row when he threw this

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Speaker 1: bizarre shuffle pass right these picks that were just what

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Speaker 1: is this? Is this like dodgeball in sixth grade? And

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Speaker 1: he did it again like three times today. I don't

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00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: think he plays again for the Browns barring which probably

623
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: will happen. Another quarterback getting hurt. He suffered a concussion

624
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: in this game, he revealed afterwards, and Jason Campbell is

625
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: coming off a concussion, So there is an outside chance

626
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: here if neither one of them is ready, we could

627
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: be seeing Alex Tanney trick shot NFL starting quarters. There

628
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: a nickname for him like kick alicious or anything. Sadness.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if Cleveland we're least weed in

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00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: this week, you are a factory. Next game him here

631
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Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. West, are you defending weed and

632
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I don't think. I just think

633
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: it's he threw a touchdown pass yards to go ahead

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00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: with under five minutes to go. The defense kind of

635
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: blew it from there. You have to admit they did.

636
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: The defense did blow. Listen, could have been here. Listen.

637
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: He gives you two or three awful turnovers every game.

638
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: You cannot do that. You can't do that. He's a

639
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: turnover droid. Two point one. All right, let's move on, Marco.

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Speaker 1: Sorry that that got so he did. Hang there, It's okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. Bolden caught nine passes from Colin Kaepernick. Michael

642
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Speaker 1: Crabtree made his long awaited season debuts six months after

643
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Speaker 1: achilles tendant surgery, and the San Francisco forty Niners beat

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Speaker 1: the St. Louis Rams twenty three thirteen on Sunday. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how much to take

646
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Speaker 1: from this game. The Niners are a much better team. Um.

647
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Speaker 1: They beat the it was actually not quite as close

648
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Speaker 1: as a score indicated. This. The Niners have this game

649
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Speaker 1: in hand the whole time. The one, maybe the biggest

650
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Speaker 1: takeaway I had from the game is how much I

651
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Speaker 1: really do like the Niners as possible sleeping giant in

652
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: a conference where the Saints and the Seahawks are seen

653
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Speaker 1: as the overwhelming favorites, especially with crab Tree back, and

654
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: I know he had a sixt yard catch and run

655
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Speaker 1: today where it was clear that he's not moving near

656
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Speaker 1: to where he is when he's completely healthy. But at

657
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Speaker 1: the same time that he's just he adds something to

658
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Speaker 1: that offense. And I don't think it was a coincidence

659
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Speaker 1: that Vernon Davis and an Kwan Bolden both put up

660
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Speaker 1: big days as well. So I really like what I'm

661
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Speaker 1: seeing from the Niners right now, and I don't have

662
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Speaker 1: any doubts that they're going to get that six seat

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Yeah, I when I saw that play

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Speaker 1: to Crabtree, you could tell that he's a fraction of

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Speaker 1: what he was before the injury. Now, when Damarius must

666
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Speaker 1: had a similar injury, he didn't do much in the

667
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Speaker 1: first half of the season. It took him eight or

668
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Speaker 1: nine weeks. Crabtree might take until the playoffs before we

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Speaker 1: see him resembling. But I think the key point that

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Speaker 1: Dan said was, I don't think it's a coincidence that

671
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Speaker 1: Bolden and Davis both had good games because crab Tree

672
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: draws more attention than any Kyle Williams, Mariomanahem guy would

673
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: ever draw. And he started over manning Ham. I was

674
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Speaker 1: surprised how easy this game was for them. Nine point

675
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: eight yards per attempt for Kaepernick against this Rams defense,

676
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Speaker 1: and we spent a couple of weeks talking up that

677
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: they're so feisty and and so dangerous down the stretch,

678
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Speaker 1: and the forty is handled them. This is, dare I

679
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Speaker 1: say it, Dan close? Close to a statement game? Mm hmmm,

680
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: state the statement game committee. The statement committee is gonna

681
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Speaker 1: get together. I don't know, against the team that they're

682
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Speaker 1: obviously better than, Maybe they need to put forth a

683
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Speaker 1: bit more of a dominant effort, so we're probably not

684
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Speaker 1: going to give him that. But at the very least,

685
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a victory that that once again reaffirms

686
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Speaker 1: that they are a very good team. But I mean

687
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Speaker 1: that's maybe the definition of a statement, So maybe it

688
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: is a statement. I think they clearly stated that they're

689
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Speaker 1: gonna win the sixth seed in the NFC. They are

690
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: now a full game out in front of the Cards.

691
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: The Cardinals aren't. Yes. One other one injury note though,

692
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Speaker 1: to take out of that game is uh Niners left

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00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: tackle Joe Staley had a right knee injury left in

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Speaker 1: the first quarter. I think I saw some tweets out

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Speaker 1: there that it's not um initially believed to be an

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Speaker 1: a c L situation, but it's something to keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on. This week. Andy Dalton threw a go ahead

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Speaker 1: twenty one yard touchdown pass to a wide open A J.

699
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Speaker 1: Green late in the third quarter in the a f

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Speaker 1: C North leading Cincinnati Bengals Bengals beat the San Diego

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Speaker 1: Chargers seventeen ten on Sunday. The Bengals are now eight

702
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Speaker 1: and four and uh they keep their two game lead

703
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Speaker 1: over the Ravens in the a f C North greg

704
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: huge win for them. I think it's a lot harder

705
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Speaker 1: to come up with the scenario where the Bengals blow

706
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Speaker 1: the division now. I think this is a tough place

707
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Speaker 1: to get a win. San Diego the way they've been

708
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Speaker 1: playing now, and the Chargers defense just they're coming up

709
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: with new ways each week to kind of not impress me.

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Speaker 1: And this week they didn't have a single quarterback hit

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Speaker 1: or a single sack on Andy Dalton. They knew that

712
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: the Bengals were gonna run the ball late in the game.

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00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: The Bengals got the ball back up seven to go,

714
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Speaker 1: and they just ran it and ran it and ran

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Speaker 1: it until the game was over. And that was it.

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Speaker 1: We saw the Chiefs in back to back games did

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Speaker 1: not have a single quarterback hit. Greg, tell the people

718
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Speaker 1: what you want. Oh, that's right. We uh, we need

719
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Speaker 1: a name for this. When there I always look in

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Speaker 1: the box score. I don't know why to see what

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Speaker 1: how many quarterback hits and sacks? We need a name

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Speaker 1: for it. When you don't have any of either. No

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Speaker 1: quarterback hits, no sacks, you did not touch the quarterback

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Speaker 1: are around the league? Listeners should tweet at us some

725
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: some ideas for this. There's only been six or seven

726
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: times all year this happened. I have a great one.

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Speaker 1: Should I share it now or should we wait? Show

728
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Speaker 1: it out? When you do not have a quarterback hit

729
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: in the whole game, that is a dirty Peter? Why

730
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Speaker 1: is that? I like it? I don't know why, but I,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, it was a dirty Peter. I don't

732
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Speaker 1: know why, but I love him. Just that's my idea. Readers,

733
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Speaker 1: don't even bother tweeting, even though I feel like that's

734
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Speaker 1: never gonna be topped. Can we can we throw it

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Speaker 1: out there to the Twitter verse all the A t

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Speaker 1: L NFL underscore A t L tweeters, tweets, followers, followers,

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Speaker 1: we will dirty Peter if you like that. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's just my suggestion. I want we want them to

739
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Speaker 1: give theirs. And maybe if there's a health's sack you

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Speaker 1: did not touch the quarterback, what should we call I

741
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: think if it's simplified it just because the sack is

742
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: obviously QB hit just so you don't hit the quarterback. Yeah,

743
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of a hollow exercise for the listeners because you've

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Speaker 1: nailed it. Well. I don't know. Greg doesn't seem sold

745
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Speaker 1: on the dirty I have not sold on it. What

746
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: I need to explain it? Its just I feel about

747
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: the dirty Peter the way you feel about the Dalton scale.

748
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Speaker 1: They don't understand after this one just sounds this was

749
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Speaker 1: a I know it, but I just I don't want

750
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Speaker 1: to force it through legislation. Listeners, just right in writing

751
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Speaker 1: your things. Take a shot, try to beat Dirty Peter.

752
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: Try your best, but fail as you try tilt at windmills.

753
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: This was a perfect game for the literary reference. Literally

754
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: of our listening public will not get Maybe that should

755
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: be the term. If you don't hit the quarterback, you're

756
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: tilting at windmills. Greg is getting furious. Why would I

757
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: be getting furious. I'm the one who threw this out there.

758
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. Filting net windmill. It's a windmill tilt

759
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: when you when you don't hear a quarterback. That's almost

760
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: as good as the Dirty Peter, both from obscure literary reference.

761
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: I don't know where mind spread actually, And that takes

762
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: us to the Sunday night game, a seventeen Giants win,

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00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: in which the Giants overcame a fourteen nothing deficit early

764
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: but obviously, uh, when you're dealing with two teams that

765
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Speaker 1: are kind of also rans. At this point, the only

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00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: thing really to take out of the game is what

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Speaker 1: happened at the end, and I will I will throw

768
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: it to my boss Greg to explain to the people

769
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Speaker 1: what he what he saw. Wow, this was confusing, but

770
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: the Redskins were driving late down seven points, and it

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00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: looked like they had picked up a first down, and

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00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: the marker on the sideline changed the you know, the

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00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: the number on the sideline to first down, and the

774
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: in the Redskins through the ball twenty yards down the

775
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: field and ended up being a drop. It was an

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Speaker 1: incomplete and then the officials came back and they changed

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Speaker 1: it back to a fourth down. So basically the Redskins

778
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: had never picked up the first down the whole time.

779
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: The officials made a mistake. They made the Redskins think

780
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: that they had picked up the first stopped down the

781
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: clock to even even do a measurement or anything, and

782
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: they just clout forward to all this happening with right

783
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, on the final drive

784
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: of the game. Yeah, sometimes there's a game between two

785
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: teams that don't have great records, but you think, wow,

786
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: if you didn't know they were bad teams, like this

787
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: is a good game. This was not one of those games.

788
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: But it's just this ending is gonna stick with you

789
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: because you don't really see the NFL officials make a

790
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: mistake that big. Most of these end of game controversies,

791
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: to me remind me of the Chris Webber time out scandal,

792
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: where it's so overblown because they probably weren't gonna win

793
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: the game anyway. Nothing I saw from the Redskins in

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00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: the second half made me think they were going to

795
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: complete that drive for a touch two. Well, I will

796
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: say that you had. Of course, the referees fouled up,

797
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: and that will be the big talking point coming out

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Speaker 1: of this game. But Fred Davis, as Greg alluded to,

799
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: dropped a thirty yard reception that hit him right in

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Speaker 1: the chest. And then and then you had the confusion

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Speaker 1: with the down and it's fourth down and r G

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00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: three completes a first down pass to pr Garson, who

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00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: doesn't compete well enough to hold on to the football

804
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: gets ripped out of his hands, and that's really how

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00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: the game ends. That's how it was decided, not because

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00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: of the bad spot because Garson couldn't control the ball

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00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: after he had the first down. Um, it was just basically,

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00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: if you want to just talk about the Redskins themselves,

809
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: it was. It was a real study and why they stink.

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00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: They they had several chances to make big plays on

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00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: that final drive and they just couldn't finish, and they

812
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: got beat by a Giant's team that we all know

813
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: is not very good, a ton of drops. RG three

814
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: started well again, but they, like you said, they didn't

815
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Speaker 1: make any big plays in the entire game. They were unimpressive.

816
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's blowing up the ending too

817
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: much to focus on that, because this was a really

818
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: basic mistake. We've all watched a lot of NFL games.

819
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that ever happen at any point

820
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: in the game. I've never seen it, and it was

821
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Speaker 1: pretty bad. It's pretty bad. Dean Blandino's red phone is

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Speaker 1: ringing right now next to his trut, next to his

823
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: his nightstand, and is the color of Shanahan's face right now.

824
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: Dean's wife is like Dean, it's the red phone blinking.

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00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: Um all right, So that is that is the the

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Speaker 1: Sunday Games are is one more game? Uh, the New

827
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: Orleans Seattle Tilt. We might even have to talk about

828
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: that one, you know, who knows. But we will be

829
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. Um anything, what do we have coming

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00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: up on Wednesday? Well, we'll talk some forkage. Well we

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Speaker 1: do for a toaster. I forgot that existed. Forgot about

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00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: it because it's been a while yeah, I gotta get

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Speaker 1: Lyle the Intern to work up some questions. Maybe won't

834
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: screwed up this time and he's still recovering. You know,

835
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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, you owe someone to rematch I

836
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: do Sean sem Ya Shum the toaster controversy of two thousand. Yes,

837
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Speaker 1: well maybe that will be in play this week or

838
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: next week. We'll figure it out, but uh yeah, we'll

839
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: be back either way on Wednesday. And um, I hope

840
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: you're there to listen. You know, we'd like when you

841
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast. Tell your friends, tell them all. Um, okay,

842
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Speaker 1: this is dany to signing off for the Mailman, the Boss,

843
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: the Sizzler came bridge behind the glass and Lyle the

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Speaker 1: Intern until Wednesday