WEBVTT - Ronald Gladden 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.480 You see an ad on Craigslist. Is this where do 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.240 people still look at ads on? Apparently they do look 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:11.320 at ads at ads on Craigslist. You see a Craigslist 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:13.320 ad for what exactly? 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.880 So, first of all, I should definitely be the spokesperson 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.720 for craiglist, because I love it. I still okay, I 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.720 don't think it's as popular as it used to be, 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.079 but I've found some gems on there, dating all the 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:25.800 way back to me being in college. There's some good 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:27.760 stuff on there, sometimes dating. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.800 So you you mentioned the word dating. Do you do 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.839 you date from Craigslist? No? 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:33.960 No, no, no, no, no. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:38.080 Okay, all right, just dating? Okay, okay, jobs, all right. 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.239 Hi, my name is Ronald Gladden and I am a 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:50.360 corgy enthusiast. 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.240 Hi everybody, Well, it's a Tuesday, and you know what 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.240 that means. It means it's time for another episode of 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:05.520 Off the Beat with me your host, Brian Bonmgartner. William 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:11.080 Shakespeare once said some are born great, some achieve greatness, 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:15.760 and others have greatness thrust upon them. Well, my guest 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.800 today was probably born a pretty great guy, but he 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:23.440 definitely had fame thrust upon him. I'm talking to the 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:28.760 star of Amazon's Jury Duty, Ronald Gladden. Now, if you 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.480 don't know the story, run, don't walk, and watch the show. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.160 But here's the short version. Ronald signed up for what 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.640 he thought was just a regular run of the mill, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:44.319 Jury Duty, doing his civic duty and participating in our well, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:49.160 our glorious democracy. But what he was actually participating in 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.600 was basically The Truman Show where he was sequestered from 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.320 the outside world, filmed twenty four to seven, and everyone 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:02.760 around him was an actor and every single was meticulously staged. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:07.040 Now this might sound like a stress dream come true, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.279 but Jury Duty is some of the funniest, most uplifting 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.760 television in recent memory, thanks in no small part to 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:20.320 Ronald's big heart and well can do attitude. So I 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.079 wanted to talk to Ronald to hear about the process 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.680 behind this insane experiment and his feelings about the big 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.520 reveal and the whirldwin that he's been on since the 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:36.760 show ended. Hollywood has embraced Ronald with open arms. Folks. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.000 Not only did he quit his day job, but he 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.639 recently signed a deal with Amazon MGM for future projects. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.800 So I'm so excited to talk to him today. My 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:53.440 favorite former solar panel contractor, Ronald Gladden. 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:01.560 Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak on 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.840 Bubble and Squeak, I cooking it every month, lift over 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.440 from the night before. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.720 Well, well, well, hey, look at here. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.119 What's happening Brian Man. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.160 First of all, it's a pleasure to meet you. I 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.560 gotta say thank you so much for having me after 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.799 seeing your face on my TV for you know, over 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.840 a decade. This is amazing. I love it. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.880 Well, thank you for saying that your face has been 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.600 on my TV the last year. I might call it 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:50.040 the best comedy of last year. Congratulations on Uh, well, 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:54.840 she's on everything that's It's amazing. And you got to 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.720 work even though you didn't know it at the time 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:01.080 with a couple of old pals of mine, Jean Stepnitski 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.680 and Lee Eisenberg. First off, I talked to Jean last 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.840 summer when around the time the show came out, because 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.600 I became such a huge fan of the show, and 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.160 I talked to him about it and I told him 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:16.760 I've got to talk to Ronald here at at some point. 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.560 But now, have you hung out with those guys after 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:21.000 after the fact? 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.800 Oh? Absolutely, they are great. I heard that Jean is 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.520 a little bit of a recluse, though I heard he 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.200 is kind of hard to get in contact with. 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:34.440 Yeah, well they all, you know, all great writers are 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.600 a little reclusive, right. I guess. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.159 I'll take your word for it. Man, I'm still figuring 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:42.120 out how this all works. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.120 Well, I want to, I want to. I want to 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:49.040 talk a little bit about about your history first and 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:54.440 then how you got propelled onto this, uh, this wild 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:58.479 ride of Jerry Duty. First off, you were born in Oregon? 0:04:58.839 --> 0:04:59.360 Is that right? 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.920 Correct? So I am initially from Oregon. I'm from a 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.080 very small mountain town that no one's. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:09.640 Ever heard of. Okay, how how how was that growing up? 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.920 Was that? Was that a good childhood or I. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.600 Mean it was it was hit and miss, Like there 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.039 was definitely benefits for growing up in a small town. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.080 But like, for example, I was really big into sports. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:21.320 I feel like if I would have grown up in 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.800 like a bigger city, I would have gone further with that. 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.520 Just I mean, like I said, you know, pros and 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.200 cons for sure, But I liked it. It's a beautiful place. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:31.840 All majority of my family still lives there. I mean 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:32.640 they seem to love. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:37.520 It, right, and now I heard at some point you 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.480 took the jump to San Diego. Are you in? Are 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.600 you in Los Angeles now? Yeah? 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.800 I am in Los Angeles now, but grudgingly, I might 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.520 add I I definitely moved to San Diego specifically, but 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.080 you know, work relocation. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.080 So is this since the show? You've been in LA? 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.920 Where were you when? When you when you found out 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:58.560 about the show? 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.039 So I was in and Diego. What it happened was 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.640 when I moved to San Diego in twenty nineteen, I 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.080 got into the Solar world. And so I've been doing 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.200 construction pretty much my whole life, but I had never 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.359 done solar specific so I really threw myself into my 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.600 work because I wanted to learn as much as possible 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.599 to be as good as possible, and so I really 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.840 just kind of dove into it. And I found out 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.400 about the show because after doing this for a few years, 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.520 I burnt myself out, you know, twelve fifteen, sixteen hour 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.200 days living on the road. I just had enough. So 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.839 I was really just looking for just something different, just 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.800 to kind of shake it up. And the show was 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.280 just the perfect opportunity to get an experience I had 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.160 never done before, you know, they were going to pay 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:38.320 me a little bit of money for a couple of 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.160 weeks of my time. I figured why not. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:46.120 Okay, So you're doing solar construction, and I understand you 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.920 went to OSU. Correct for construction engineering. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:51.239 That is correct. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.960 Okay. So you're doing that, working in the in the 0:06:56.080 --> 0:07:03.000 solar solar panel industry, and you see an ad on Craigslist. 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.760 Is this where do people still look at ads on? 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.720 Apparently they do look at ads at ads on Craigslist. 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:14.120 You see a Craigslist ad for what exactly? 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.720 So, first of all, I should definitely be the spokesperson 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.600 for craiglist because I love it. I still Okay, I 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.520 don't think it's as popular as it used to be. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.920 But I found some gems on there, dating all the 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.640 way back to me being in college. There's some good 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.600 stuff on there, sometimes dating. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.680 So you you mentioned the word dating. Do you do 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.840 you date from Craigslist? No? No, no, no, no, no, okay, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.800 all right, just dating? Okay, okay, jobs? All right? So 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.239 you look on Craigslist, you see an ad for what? Yeah? 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.360 So, well, I do want to say too, I wasn't 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.080 just looking on Craigslist. I mean I was looking everywhere 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.400 it could on Facebook. Indeed, you know, zip recruiter, you 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.120 name it. But basically the ad was pretty vague, and 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.640 that's kind of what intrigued me. It basically just said, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.120 you know, be a part of a jury where and 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.080 be doing a documentary about you know, the behind the 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.360 scenes look at what goes on during the judicial system 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.720 and what goes on in like the deliberation room. Is 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.760 that all you have to do is participate in the 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.120 trial and then you know, answer our interview questions. So 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.239 it seems simple enough. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.680 Okay, So had you ever served on a jury before? 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.320 No, that was actually one of the main requirements that 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.480 was in the initial ad. They just had a couple 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.160 of things that you had to be, you know, certain 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.080 age range, you had to be a male, and you 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.880 could have never served on jury duty before. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:35.160 Okay, okay, so when you show up what we see 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.640 in the show, do you do you have any other 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.280 meetings before this or or where the show picks up. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.040 Is that you showing up to potentially be chosen for 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:46.320 this jury? 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.800 Yeah, so the very first day is exactly what you said. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.280 I was prep from the very beginning that even though 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.400 production could love me and they want me to be 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.600 a part of it. I still ultimately have to get 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.000 selected by the judge. So I was prepped from day 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:00.559 one that I may not even and make it, and 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.240 I could potentially just have to go home. 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.720 Got it? Were there other people in the room. There 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.760 weren't other people in the room that first day who 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:16.719 might have been chosen. No, it was this was about you, right, Yeah. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:17.760 Well, I mean I didn't know that at the time, 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.880 but yeah, yeah, about me. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.400 Okay, So when they said you had to be selected 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.679 by the judge, that was that was bullshit. I mean 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.560 they yes, but but but for you, you didn't You 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.600 didn't know you had to show up, and you probably 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.800 assumed that other people who were there were we were 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.520 trying to be on this documentary for the for the jury, right. 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.920 Actually the other way around, the way the way it 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.120 was pitched were there were a couple people there that 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.400 were there specifically for the documentary part of it, but 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.640 a majority of the other people were all trying to 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.560 get out of it, essentially because these were all people 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.240 who received real summons. And the way that it worked 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.360 was that after everyone was selected, the camera crew approached 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.160 to all the people who weren't initially a part of it, 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:03.800 and they said, hey, this is what we're doing, we'd 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.120 like you to be a part of it, and then 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:06.680 this is what we can do for you. And so 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.680 that's how they you know, brought everybody on. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:18.080 Wow, okay, how difficult was it in terms of the 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.080 So how long how long were you sequestered from then on? 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:24.160 Uh? Three weeks? 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.439 Three weeks and no phone? 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.680 Yeah, no phone, no connection to the outside world. They 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.680 did have an option where you could make monitored phone 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.640 calls at the end of the day, but that's not 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.679 even something I really wanted to do because you literally 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.760 had somebody wearing, you know, an earpiece just listening to 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.080 your conversation, and so I hated the idea of that. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:53.520 Oh my god, so did we're okay, Oh my god, 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.680 there's just so much. So here's the thing that's so 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.880 fascinating to me about the show is, I mean, I 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:05.240 guess by its definition, it's a prank show, right, but 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.880 because you are being pranked in a way, but it's 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:14.280 not at your expense, right, Like it's you're you're you're 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.760 you're never made to be like the butt of the 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:21.200 joke or whatever. I know, some some people have called 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:26.120 it the first feel good prank show ever? Are you 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:33.520 What was your feeling like when you found out in 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.960 the end? What was what was going on? 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.880 If I had to sum up in one word, just disbelief, 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.720 you know, like I just would have because I mean, 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.520 I know people want to call it a prank show 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.640 because we don't really have like a term for what 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.319 this is. Like that's the closest thing that you can 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.840 describe the show, because I got Truman showed. You know, 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.880 it's like it was, it was kind of a prank show. 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:58.880 But to your point, I was never the butt of 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:00.599 a joke. So that's why I don't like calling it 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.680 a prank show, because, if anything, it was everybody else 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.760 making themselves look like morons? 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:10.760 If anything, right, did you? Were you angry? 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.000 Not at all? I mean, after the initial disbelief wore off, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.680 Like I like to think that I have a pretty 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.920 good sense of humor, and I mean, you know, I 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.000 realized that I was never made to look a fool, 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.439 and so like I could definitely see the funny side of. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:31.040 It, right. Jeane told me they they did this two 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.880 other times with two other people, and yours was the 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.920 one that's stuck, Which makes sense everything seemed to play 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.559 out perfectly. Did you ever see any of the other 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:48.160 footage or see any of the other meet and the 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.520 other two people who who who this happened to? 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.640 No, I was unaware that they did this multiple times. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.280 So that's honestly a great feeling to know that I 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.280 was the one that was chosen. But no, I didn't 0:12:59.280 --> 0:12:59.560 know that. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.240 Oh you didn't know that till right now. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.280 Yeah, I didn't know that. I mean, I know that 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.240 people had talked about it, but like, I mean, everything 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.840 is just always so hush hush, there's always so there's 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:14.679 so many levels to it, Like I have no idea. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.079 What were some of the moments. Did you ever suspect 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.160 that something else was going on? First off? 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.920 I mean, so this is hard to describe, Like they 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.319 got me on camera multiple They only show it once, 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.520 but they got me on camera multiple times saying like 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.200 I feel like I'm on reality TV, Like something doesn't 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.040 feel right, Like I don't know what's going on, but 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.839 this is something's just not right. But I never seriously 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.280 entertained the idea that something else could be going on, 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.240 because that just led me down this rabbit hole, you know. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.520 And then at some point when I started questioning my 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.760 entire reality. I'm almost starting to question my sanity. At 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.680 that point, I'm like, oh my god, am I fucking 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.079 losing my mind right now? You know, so like I 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.360 could never seriously entertain that idea. I mean, I thought 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.400 about it jokingly, But in what world do you ever 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.800 sit down and say, Okay, everything around me is fake, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.280 everyone's an actor, this is all an elaborate show, and 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.599 I'm the center of attention. You know, Like that's a 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.280 pretty conceited thought to have. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.960 Yeah, the Truman Show, it is. I mean, I think 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:18.760 that's actually way better said than a prank show. Yeah, 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.680 it is like the Truman Show where yeah, you're the 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:27.680 only one who's not aware of what the world actually is. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:34.480 Tell me a couple of the moments that happened that 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:40.760 looking back, you go, I can't believe that that played 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.760 out and I didn't realize it. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.520 I mean, the Margaret. I hate watching the fourth episode 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.120 because that's the Margaritaville episode, because to me, that should 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.760 have been a red flag because I thought to myself 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.200 the whole time, I was like, how are we even 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.280 able to do this? You know, that was at the 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.560 end of the second week going into our third week. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.320 They pitch it as like a, you know, we feel 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.120 bad that we've kept you guys locked up for this long, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:04.680 so we want to treat you to a night out. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.360 But even then I was like, man, I just didn't 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.240 think that that was something you'd be able to do. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.320 But I kind of just went with the flow. I 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.760 wasn't going to argue with it, but that definitely raised 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:13.680 the red flag for me. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:21.520 Yeah, James Marsden, did you like him as a person now, 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.960 I'm not talking about now, but as a as the 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.600 person that you met as the character James Marsden? What 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.080 were your secret thoughts about him? 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.320 Well? I mean, initially I wanted to love the guy, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.000 you know, after I realized who he was and I 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:39.760 realized that I knew some of his work and I 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.000 was a fan, I wanted to enjoy him. But James, 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.640 to his credit, did exactly what his character development process 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.880 was supposed to do. Over time, he made me hate 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.960 him and not want to be around him because he 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.840 was just such an asshole, you know, like there's no 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.400 better word for it. He was just he played such 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.200 this smug, entitled version of himself so well that I 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.000 couldn't I didn't want to be near him. Towards the end, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.520 I just absolutely didn't want to deal with him. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:05.880 Who was your favorite. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:12.240 Ooh, that's tough. Probably a toss up between Maria Russell 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:17.080 who played Annez, and probably Ron Song who played kN 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.640 I feel like he didn't get enough screen time simply 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.360 because his character was meant to be his delivery was 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.240 so slow, so just for time constraints, they cut back 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.360 on it. But he was very fun to interact with. 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.840 Did everybody else got to go home? Right? You just 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:31.520 didn't know that? 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.320 Uh? Well, four were there? 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:35.040 Four or five? 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.200 I think there were four other people who stayed in 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.840 my hotel and then everybody else did get to go home. Yes, 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.000 but it was pitched. As you know, this sequestration was 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.360 so last minute that they couldn't find a hotel to 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:47.960 fit all of us, and so they broke us up 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.360 into two hotels where the majority of them did get 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:51.800 to go home, and then we were the only ones 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:52.760 who stayed in the hotel. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.119 Have you stayed in touch with people since? 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.320 Absolutely? Like, something I really want people to know about 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.439 this show is that, like it really was like a 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.880 feel good comedy and that we all connected, Like I'm 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.080 still friends with all of these people. And it's not 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.600 just the people that you see on screen as well too. 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.320 I'm talking about the EPs, the show runners, the cameraman 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.159 Chris Darnell even too, Like I've got all these people's 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:35.840 phone numbers and I still stay in contact with them. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:36.920 It's a great group of people. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.840 Yeah, Now were you talking to as this was going on? 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:49.479 Were you talking to the quote unquote documentary crew? Like, 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.679 were you like, are the people who were supposedly producing 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.119 the documentary or were you sort of I don't know, 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.280 sequestered from them so. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.879 I could talk to them like at the course. I mean, 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.080 I could talk to them wherever, but really I dealt 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.200 with them mainly at the courthouse. So I didn't realize 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.840 that I was being filmed the entire time because I 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.600 only ever saw four cameras in total, and they were 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.920 cameras that were, you know, wheeled from room to room. 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.240 So as we're moving places, they have to get set ups. 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.280 There's tons of downtime. So I would kind of just 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.280 talk to them during those transitions. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:28.160 Okay, okay. And so the people who were producers, you 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.719 you were seeing them, you just didn't realize exactly what 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:31.600 they were producing. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.280 Yeah, they I don't know what you would call them, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.840 an infield producer maybe, but there was two of them. 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.840 There were the people who actually interviewed me and gave 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.280 me this opportunity to even bring me on, and so 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.320 I saw them every day. They're the ones asking us 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.080 questions at the end of the day, just trying to 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.560 get information for the documentary. 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:55.760 Did you have any moment that you considered not signing 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.359 on in the end, because my assumption is because that 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:03.440 no knowing how the business works, as I watched it, 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:07.080 I'm like, this guy had to have agreed at some 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:13.200 point in the end right to say, okay, you can 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.440 go with this, right. Yeah. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.800 Ultimately they did leave it up to me to sign 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:19.520 off and improve on it or not. They said like, 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.480 do you want to move forward with this or not? 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.520 I don't know what would have happened if I would 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.200 have said no. I guess they'd try the whole thing 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:30.040 over again. But though I really didn't have any reservations 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:34.240 for a few different reasons. One, I didn't I approached 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.200 this thinking that nobody was going to see this anyways. 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.000 You know, this was pitched to me as being very 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.960 low budget and informational, and who's going to want to 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.399 watch a documentary about an informational jury duty process, you know, 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.199 So I didn't think anybody was going to see this. 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.320 When I found out that James was going to be 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.360 a part of it, I thought, you know, maybe we'll 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.480 get a few more eyes on this. But truthfully, I 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.480 didn't think this was going to get outside of la 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.960 let alone the state. So I really wasn't too worried 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.440 about it. I'll say though, I almost didn't sign up 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.639 for it in the beginning because the first thing I 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.560 had to do when I answered the ad was I 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.359 had to submit like a sixty second self tape just 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:13.320 talking about myself, where I'm from, hobbies, interests, things like that. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.800 And I hated the way I looked on camera. I 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.239 hated the way I looked. I hate the way I 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.760 sounded like. I almost didn't submit it because I was like, 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.240 oh my god. I redid it multiple times and I 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.800 finally just said whatever, I'll just I'll see if it works. 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.000 Did anybody share with you why you were chosen? 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:34.280 Not specifically, I mean I've heard like kind of like 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.680 people's thoughts on the matter, but not specifically. I think 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.159 it was more of just like I was just open 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:44.119 and honest, like Alexis san Pedro. She was the one 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.040 who was giving me the interviews. She commented about how 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.840 she was like, oh, I really appreciate your honesty when 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:50.919 she would ask me about have I listened to certain 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.640 podcasts or seen TV shows? And she's like, some people 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:54.960 will lie and try to say that they have, and 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:56.800 then I'll ask the more questions further and they won't 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:58.520 be able to answer them. But I was just very 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:00.160 blunt and honest with her. 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.679 Well, that's a good way to be. Anything make you 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:09.800 uncomfortable because part of you know, part of what happens 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.359 when some of the other characters are made to maybe 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:17.359