1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You see an ad on Craigslist. Is this where do 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: people still look at ads on? Apparently they do look 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: at ads at ads on Craigslist. You see a Craigslist 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: ad for what exactly? 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: So, first of all, I should definitely be the spokesperson 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: for craiglist, because I love it. I still okay, I 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: don't think it's as popular as it used to be, 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: but I've found some gems on there, dating all the 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: way back to me being in college. There's some good 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: stuff on there, sometimes dating. 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: So you you mentioned the word dating. Do you do 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: you date from Craigslist? No? 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. 14 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, just dating? Okay, okay, jobs, all right. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Ronald Gladden and I am a 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: corgy enthusiast. 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: Hi everybody, Well, it's a Tuesday, and you know what 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: that means. It means it's time for another episode of 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Off the Beat with me your host, Brian Bonmgartner. William 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Shakespeare once said some are born great, some achieve greatness, 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: and others have greatness thrust upon them. Well, my guest 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: today was probably born a pretty great guy, but he 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: definitely had fame thrust upon him. I'm talking to the 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: star of Amazon's Jury Duty, Ronald Gladden. Now, if you 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: don't know the story, run, don't walk, and watch the show. 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: But here's the short version. Ronald signed up for what 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: he thought was just a regular run of the mill, 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: Jury Duty, doing his civic duty and participating in our well, 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: our glorious democracy. But what he was actually participating in 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: was basically The Truman Show where he was sequestered from 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: the outside world, filmed twenty four to seven, and everyone 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: around him was an actor and every single was meticulously staged. 33 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Now this might sound like a stress dream come true, 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,279 Speaker 1: but Jury Duty is some of the funniest, most uplifting 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: television in recent memory, thanks in no small part to 36 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Ronald's big heart and well can do attitude. So I 37 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to Ronald to hear about the process 38 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: behind this insane experiment and his feelings about the big 39 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: reveal and the whirldwin that he's been on since the 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: show ended. Hollywood has embraced Ronald with open arms. Folks. 41 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Not only did he quit his day job, but he 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: recently signed a deal with Amazon MGM for future projects. 43 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: So I'm so excited to talk to him today. My 44 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: favorite former solar panel contractor, Ronald Gladden. 45 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak on 46 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: Bubble and Squeak, I cooking it every month, lift over 47 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: from the night before. 48 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: Well, well, well, hey, look at here. 49 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: What's happening Brian Man. 50 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: First of all, it's a pleasure to meet you. I 51 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: gotta say thank you so much for having me after 52 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: seeing your face on my TV for you know, over 53 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: a decade. This is amazing. I love it. 54 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for saying that your face has been 55 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: on my TV the last year. I might call it 56 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: the best comedy of last year. Congratulations on Uh, well, 57 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: she's on everything that's It's amazing. And you got to 58 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: work even though you didn't know it at the time 59 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: with a couple of old pals of mine, Jean Stepnitski 60 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: and Lee Eisenberg. First off, I talked to Jean last 61 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: summer when around the time the show came out, because 62 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: I became such a huge fan of the show, and 63 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: I talked to him about it and I told him 64 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: I've got to talk to Ronald here at at some point. 65 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: But now, have you hung out with those guys after 66 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: after the fact? 67 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, they are great. I heard that Jean is 68 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: a little bit of a recluse, though I heard he 69 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: is kind of hard to get in contact with. 70 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they all, you know, all great writers are 71 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: a little reclusive, right. I guess. 72 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: I'll take your word for it. Man, I'm still figuring 73 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: out how this all works. 74 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: Well, I want to, I want to. I want to 75 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about about your history first and 76 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: then how you got propelled onto this, uh, this wild 77 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: ride of Jerry Duty. First off, you were born in Oregon? 78 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: Is that right? 79 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: Correct? So I am initially from Oregon. I'm from a 80 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: very small mountain town that no one's. 81 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: Ever heard of. Okay, how how how was that growing up? 82 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: Was that? Was that a good childhood or I. 83 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: Mean it was it was hit and miss, Like there 84 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: was definitely benefits for growing up in a small town. 85 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: But like, for example, I was really big into sports. 86 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: I feel like if I would have grown up in 87 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: like a bigger city, I would have gone further with that. 88 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: Just I mean, like I said, you know, pros and 89 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: cons for sure, But I liked it. It's a beautiful place. 90 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: All majority of my family still lives there. I mean 91 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: they seem to love. 92 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: It, right, and now I heard at some point you 93 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: took the jump to San Diego. Are you in? Are 94 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: you in Los Angeles now? Yeah? 95 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: I am in Los Angeles now, but grudgingly, I might 96 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: add I I definitely moved to San Diego specifically, but 97 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: you know, work relocation. 98 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: So is this since the show? You've been in LA? 99 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: Where were you when? When you when you found out 100 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: about the show? 101 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: So I was in and Diego. What it happened was 102 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: when I moved to San Diego in twenty nineteen, I 103 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: got into the Solar world. And so I've been doing 104 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: construction pretty much my whole life, but I had never 105 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: done solar specific so I really threw myself into my 106 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: work because I wanted to learn as much as possible 107 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: to be as good as possible, and so I really 108 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: just kind of dove into it. And I found out 109 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: about the show because after doing this for a few years, 110 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: I burnt myself out, you know, twelve fifteen, sixteen hour 111 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: days living on the road. I just had enough. So 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: I was really just looking for just something different, just 113 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: to kind of shake it up. And the show was 114 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: just the perfect opportunity to get an experience I had 115 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: never done before, you know, they were going to pay 116 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: me a little bit of money for a couple of 117 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: weeks of my time. I figured why not. 118 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're doing solar construction, and I understand you 119 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: went to OSU. Correct for construction engineering. 120 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 2: That is correct. 121 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Okay. So you're doing that, working in the in the 122 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: solar solar panel industry, and you see an ad on Craigslist. 123 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Is this where do people still look at ads on? 124 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: Apparently they do look at ads at ads on Craigslist. 125 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: You see a Craigslist ad for what exactly? 126 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: So, first of all, I should definitely be the spokesperson 127 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: for craiglist because I love it. I still Okay, I 128 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: don't think it's as popular as it used to be. 129 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: But I found some gems on there, dating all the 130 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: way back to me being in college. There's some good 131 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: stuff on there, sometimes dating. 132 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: So you you mentioned the word dating. Do you do 133 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: you date from Craigslist? No? No, no, no, no, no, okay, 134 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: all right, just dating? Okay, okay, jobs? All right? So 135 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 1: you look on Craigslist, you see an ad for what? Yeah? 136 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: So, well, I do want to say too, I wasn't 137 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: just looking on Craigslist. I mean I was looking everywhere 138 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: it could on Facebook. Indeed, you know, zip recruiter, you 139 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: name it. But basically the ad was pretty vague, and 140 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: that's kind of what intrigued me. It basically just said, 141 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: you know, be a part of a jury where and 142 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: be doing a documentary about you know, the behind the 143 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: scenes look at what goes on during the judicial system 144 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: and what goes on in like the deliberation room. Is 145 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: that all you have to do is participate in the 146 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: trial and then you know, answer our interview questions. So 147 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 2: it seems simple enough. 148 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So had you ever served on a jury before? 149 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: No, that was actually one of the main requirements that 150 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: was in the initial ad. They just had a couple 151 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: of things that you had to be, you know, certain 152 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: age range, you had to be a male, and you 153 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: could have never served on jury duty before. 154 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so when you show up what we see 155 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: in the show, do you do you have any other 156 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: meetings before this or or where the show picks up. 157 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Is that you showing up to potentially be chosen for 158 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: this jury? 159 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the very first day is exactly what you said. 160 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: I was prep from the very beginning that even though 161 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: production could love me and they want me to be 162 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: a part of it. I still ultimately have to get 163 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: selected by the judge. So I was prepped from day 164 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: one that I may not even and make it, and 165 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: I could potentially just have to go home. 166 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: Got it? Were there other people in the room. There 167 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: weren't other people in the room that first day who 168 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: might have been chosen. No, it was this was about you, right, Yeah. 169 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I didn't know that at the time, 170 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, about me. 171 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So when they said you had to be selected 172 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: by the judge, that was that was bullshit. I mean 173 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: they yes, but but but for you, you didn't You 174 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: didn't know you had to show up, and you probably 175 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: assumed that other people who were there were we were 176 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: trying to be on this documentary for the for the jury, right. 177 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: Actually the other way around, the way the way it 178 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: was pitched were there were a couple people there that 179 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: were there specifically for the documentary part of it, but 180 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: a majority of the other people were all trying to 181 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: get out of it, essentially because these were all people 182 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: who received real summons. And the way that it worked 183 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: was that after everyone was selected, the camera crew approached 184 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: to all the people who weren't initially a part of it, 185 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: and they said, hey, this is what we're doing, we'd 186 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: like you to be a part of it, and then 187 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: this is what we can do for you. And so 188 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: that's how they you know, brought everybody on. 189 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, how difficult was it in terms of the 190 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: So how long how long were you sequestered from then on? 191 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: Uh? Three weeks? 192 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: Three weeks and no phone? 193 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no phone, no connection to the outside world. They 194 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: did have an option where you could make monitored phone 195 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: calls at the end of the day, but that's not 196 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: even something I really wanted to do because you literally 197 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: had somebody wearing, you know, an earpiece just listening to 198 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: your conversation, and so I hated the idea of that. 199 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, so did we're okay, Oh my god, 200 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: there's just so much. So here's the thing that's so 201 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: fascinating to me about the show is, I mean, I 202 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: guess by its definition, it's a prank show, right, but 203 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: because you are being pranked in a way, but it's 204 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: not at your expense, right, Like it's you're you're you're 205 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: you're never made to be like the butt of the 206 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: joke or whatever. I know, some some people have called 207 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: it the first feel good prank show ever? Are you 208 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: What was your feeling like when you found out in 209 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: the end? What was what was going on? 210 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: If I had to sum up in one word, just disbelief, 211 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: you know, like I just would have because I mean, 212 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: I know people want to call it a prank show 213 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: because we don't really have like a term for what 214 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: this is. Like that's the closest thing that you can 215 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: describe the show, because I got Truman showed. You know, 216 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: it's like it was, it was kind of a prank show. 217 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: But to your point, I was never the butt of 218 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 2: a joke. So that's why I don't like calling it 219 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: a prank show, because, if anything, it was everybody else 220 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: making themselves look like morons? 221 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: If anything, right, did you? Were you angry? 222 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: Not at all? I mean, after the initial disbelief wore off, 223 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: Like I like to think that I have a pretty 224 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: good sense of humor, and I mean, you know, I 225 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: realized that I was never made to look a fool, 226 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 2: and so like I could definitely see the funny side of. 227 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: It, right. Jeane told me they they did this two 228 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: other times with two other people, and yours was the 229 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: one that's stuck, Which makes sense everything seemed to play 230 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: out perfectly. Did you ever see any of the other 231 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: footage or see any of the other meet and the 232 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: other two people who who who this happened to? 233 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: No, I was unaware that they did this multiple times. 234 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: So that's honestly a great feeling to know that I 235 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: was the one that was chosen. But no, I didn't 236 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: know that. 237 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't know that till right now. 238 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that. I mean, I know that 239 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: people had talked about it, but like, I mean, everything 240 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: is just always so hush hush, there's always so there's 241 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: so many levels to it, Like I have no idea. 242 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: What were some of the moments. Did you ever suspect 243 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: that something else was going on? First off? 244 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: I mean, so this is hard to describe, Like they 245 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: got me on camera multiple They only show it once, 246 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: but they got me on camera multiple times saying like 247 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm on reality TV, Like something doesn't 248 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: feel right, Like I don't know what's going on, but 249 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: this is something's just not right. But I never seriously 250 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: entertained the idea that something else could be going on, 251 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: because that just led me down this rabbit hole, you know. 252 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: And then at some point when I started questioning my 253 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: entire reality. I'm almost starting to question my sanity. At 254 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: that point, I'm like, oh my god, am I fucking 255 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: losing my mind right now? You know, so like I 256 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: could never seriously entertain that idea. I mean, I thought 257 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: about it jokingly, But in what world do you ever 258 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: sit down and say, Okay, everything around me is fake, 259 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: everyone's an actor, this is all an elaborate show, and 260 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 2: I'm the center of attention. You know, Like that's a 261 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: pretty conceited thought to have. 262 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Truman Show, it is. I mean, I think 263 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: that's actually way better said than a prank show. Yeah, 264 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: it is like the Truman Show where yeah, you're the 265 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: only one who's not aware of what the world actually is. 266 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: Tell me a couple of the moments that happened that 267 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: looking back, you go, I can't believe that that played 268 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: out and I didn't realize it. 269 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the Margaret. I hate watching the fourth episode 270 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: because that's the Margaritaville episode, because to me, that should 271 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: have been a red flag because I thought to myself 272 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: the whole time, I was like, how are we even 273 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: able to do this? You know, that was at the 274 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: end of the second week going into our third week. 275 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: They pitch it as like a, you know, we feel 276 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: bad that we've kept you guys locked up for this long, 277 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: so we want to treat you to a night out. 278 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: But even then I was like, man, I just didn't 279 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: think that that was something you'd be able to do. 280 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: But I kind of just went with the flow. I 281 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: wasn't going to argue with it, but that definitely raised 282 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: the red flag for me. 283 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, James Marsden, did you like him as a person now, 284 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about now, but as a as the 285 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: person that you met as the character James Marsden? What 286 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: were your secret thoughts about him? 287 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: Well? I mean, initially I wanted to love the guy, 288 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, after I realized who he was and I 289 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: realized that I knew some of his work and I 290 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: was a fan, I wanted to enjoy him. But James, 291 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: to his credit, did exactly what his character development process 292 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: was supposed to do. Over time, he made me hate 293 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: him and not want to be around him because he 294 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: was just such an asshole, you know, like there's no 295 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: better word for it. He was just he played such 296 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: this smug, entitled version of himself so well that I 297 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: couldn't I didn't want to be near him. Towards the end, 298 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: I just absolutely didn't want to deal with him. 299 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: Who was your favorite. 300 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: Ooh, that's tough. Probably a toss up between Maria Russell 301 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: who played Annez, and probably Ron Song who played kN 302 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: I feel like he didn't get enough screen time simply 303 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: because his character was meant to be his delivery was 304 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: so slow, so just for time constraints, they cut back 305 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: on it. But he was very fun to interact with. 306 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: Did everybody else got to go home? Right? You just 307 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: didn't know that? 308 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: Uh? Well, four were there? 309 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: Four or five? 310 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: I think there were four other people who stayed in 311 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: my hotel and then everybody else did get to go home. Yes, 312 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: but it was pitched. As you know, this sequestration was 313 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: so last minute that they couldn't find a hotel to 314 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: fit all of us, and so they broke us up 315 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: into two hotels where the majority of them did get 316 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: to go home, and then we were the only ones 317 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: who stayed in the hotel. 318 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: Have you stayed in touch with people since? 319 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Like, something I really want people to know about 320 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: this show is that, like it really was like a 321 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 2: feel good comedy and that we all connected, Like I'm 322 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: still friends with all of these people. And it's not 323 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: just the people that you see on screen as well too. 324 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the EPs, the show runners, the cameraman 325 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: Chris Darnell even too, Like I've got all these people's 326 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: phone numbers and I still stay in contact with them. 327 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: It's a great group of people. 328 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now were you talking to as this was going on? 329 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 1: Were you talking to the quote unquote documentary crew? Like, 330 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: were you like, are the people who were supposedly producing 331 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: the documentary or were you sort of I don't know, 332 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: sequestered from them so. 333 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: I could talk to them like at the course. I mean, 334 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: I could talk to them wherever, but really I dealt 335 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: with them mainly at the courthouse. So I didn't realize 336 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: that I was being filmed the entire time because I 337 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: only ever saw four cameras in total, and they were 338 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: cameras that were, you know, wheeled from room to room. 339 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: So as we're moving places, they have to get set ups. 340 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: There's tons of downtime. So I would kind of just 341 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: talk to them during those transitions. 342 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. And so the people who were producers, you 343 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: you were seeing them, you just didn't realize exactly what 344 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: they were producing. 345 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they I don't know what you would call them, 346 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: an infield producer maybe, but there was two of them. 347 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: There were the people who actually interviewed me and gave 348 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: me this opportunity to even bring me on, and so 349 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: I saw them every day. They're the ones asking us 350 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: questions at the end of the day, just trying to 351 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: get information for the documentary. 352 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: Did you have any moment that you considered not signing 353 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: on in the end, because my assumption is because that 354 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: no knowing how the business works, as I watched it, 355 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy had to have agreed at some 356 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: point in the end right to say, okay, you can 357 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: go with this, right. Yeah. 358 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: Ultimately they did leave it up to me to sign 359 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: off and improve on it or not. They said like, 360 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: do you want to move forward with this or not? 361 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what would have happened if I would 362 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: have said no. I guess they'd try the whole thing 363 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: over again. But though I really didn't have any reservations 364 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: for a few different reasons. One, I didn't I approached 365 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: this thinking that nobody was going to see this anyways. 366 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, this was pitched to me as being very 367 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: low budget and informational, and who's going to want to 368 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: watch a documentary about an informational jury duty process, you know, 369 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 2: So I didn't think anybody was going to see this. 370 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: When I found out that James was going to be 371 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 2: a part of it, I thought, you know, maybe we'll 372 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: get a few more eyes on this. But truthfully, I 373 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: didn't think this was going to get outside of la 374 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: let alone the state. So I really wasn't too worried 375 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: about it. I'll say though, I almost didn't sign up 376 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: for it in the beginning because the first thing I 377 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: had to do when I answered the ad was I 378 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: had to submit like a sixty second self tape just 379 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: talking about myself, where I'm from, hobbies, interests, things like that. 380 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: And I hated the way I looked on camera. I 381 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 2: hated the way I looked. I hate the way I 382 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: sounded like. I almost didn't submit it because I was like, 383 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: oh my god. I redid it multiple times and I 384 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: finally just said whatever, I'll just I'll see if it works. 385 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: Did anybody share with you why you were chosen? 386 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: Not specifically, I mean I've heard like kind of like 387 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: people's thoughts on the matter, but not specifically. I think 388 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: it was more of just like I was just open 389 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: and honest, like Alexis san Pedro. She was the one 390 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: who was giving me the interviews. She commented about how 391 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: she was like, oh, I really appreciate your honesty when 392 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 2: she would ask me about have I listened to certain 393 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: podcasts or seen TV shows? And she's like, some people 394 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: will lie and try to say that they have, and 395 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: then I'll ask the more questions further and they won't 396 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: be able to answer them. But I was just very 397 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: blunt and honest with her. 398 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: Well, that's a good way to be. Anything make you 399 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: uncomfortable because part of you know, part of what happens 400 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: when some of the other characters are made to maybe 401 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: not look so good, specifically some racial comments that happen. 402 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: What's occurring to me is in the first episode. Anything 403 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: make you like overly uncomfortable. 404 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: Not uncomfortable, just kind of weirded out, I guess. But 405 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: to be honest, I approach this with the mentality that 406 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: I'm going to be surrounded by twelve other individuals that 407 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: could be who knows what you know. I'm going into La. 408 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 2: La is already known to have characters for people. I'm 409 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: going into Jery duty, so it's a random assortment of people, 410 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 2: so I kind of approach this with the mindset that 411 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to be surrounded by some pretty weird people. 412 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, it's I mean the balls that you had 413 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: to stay with it and your I mean your openness 414 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: and honesty. I mean, good good for her for choosing you, 415 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: because I mean, it would have been so easy for 416 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: it to go so totally wrong and just be unwatchable. 417 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's a there's a rule in improv. 418 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this when I knew I was 419 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: going to talk to you, and I don't even know 420 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: if you know this or not, but it's it's the 421 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: it's the say yes. In other words, if somebody says 422 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: something and you say no in improv, it's dead. It's over, 423 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: like there's nothing else to do. But you stayed open 424 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: and attempted to mediate at times, attempted to keep people 425 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: on the team, if you will, at times, which was 426 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: just so so pleasurable to watch. 427 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. And it's 428 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: it's funny that you say that because I've I want 429 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: to live in the comedy world. I love comedy, no 430 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: matter what form. 431 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: That is. 432 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: I'd really like to get into it. But I've been 433 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: looking a lot more into improv because it seems like 434 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: that's something I really like doing. And I've had a 435 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: few people who live in that world tell me that 436 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: I already live my life in the yes and way. 437 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: So that's why I feel like improv would be like 438 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: perfect for me because I'm already open to doing that 439 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: in my natural life. 440 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: Now, is this what do you do? You want to 441 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: continue to work in the entertainment industry. I read that 442 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: you got a little deal there going with Amazon MGM. 443 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: Is this is this something you want to continue to pursue. Oh? 444 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely. We are working on a few different shows right now. 445 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 2: We're holding meetings, from meeting with showrunners writers, Like, this 446 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: is definitely something I want to live in. I can 447 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: always go back to my construction life if I want to, 448 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: you know, I can go back to contracting at any 449 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: point in time. I don't really want to. I'd like 450 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: to try and make this work, so I'm going to 451 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: do my best of that, but you know, I always 452 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 2: have fallback options if it doesn't work out good for you. 453 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: What's what's your favorite thing that you've been able to 454 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: do or experience because of the show. 455 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's tough, because I've had a ton of great opportunities. 456 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: I would just say being invited to all these events 457 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: just kind of in general, like just getting to meet 458 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 2: a list celebrities was never even on my list of 459 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: things I thought would happen to me. So I'm just 460 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: enjoying that as much as possible. 461 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: Did you ever want to be an actor before this? 462 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's funny. 463 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: No is the easy answer, Okay. 464 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: I also never, like, I was never the child that 465 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: had aspirations to be famous, to be a singer, to 466 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 2: be an actor. I never I never wanted the spotlight. 467 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: I've always been kind of like a behind the scenes player, 468 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: pulling the strings. So it's very it's very different to 469 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: be the face. 470 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: Now are you taking classes? 471 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: I have? Yeah, Actually, I don't know how far I'm 472 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: gonna go. It's something that I'm just doing to see 473 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: if I like it. I've sat in on Emerson's classes. 474 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: They have a communic arts division, so just kind of 475 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: just seeing if it's something I'm interested in. But I 476 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: definitely am exploring that. 477 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: I saw you had a little commercial go there during 478 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. How exciting was that for you. 479 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: Oh, it's amazing. And again just getting able being able 480 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: to meet all of those people as well too, people 481 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: that I've watched on my TV for years, you know, 482 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: like those are the experiences that I'm really just like 483 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: soaking and that's what I'm enjoying the most. 484 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: Did you go to the Emmys? 485 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: I did go to the Emmys and I got to 486 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: go to the Globes too. 487 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: You did good for you. 488 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, And that was a wild time. 489 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: What way, what was your favorite party? 490 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: Ooh, probably the party, the pre Emmy party. I'm not 491 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 2: sure what it's called, but like I can't even tell 492 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: you how many people I met there. That was just 493 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: like an overload for me. 494 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that's so incredible. Again, in case you didn't know, 495 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: Lee and Jean are pretty damn smart. Okay, they are 496 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: pretty damn smart and too. I mean, I think the 497 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: only thing that's a problem is I don't know, I 498 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: don't know how you repeat it. I was talking to 499 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: him Jane about this, uh before, because now the cat's 500 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: out of the bag, and I mean for it to 501 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: have started on freebe and to have gotten so much 502 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: attention speaks to the quality of the material and that 503 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: people will find things that are interesting and unique and different, 504 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: and certainly you are a big part of that. 505 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I will say too, I'm obviously a huge 506 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: fan of Lee and Jean loved the office obviously, but yeah, 507 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: just getting being able to talk to those guys is 508 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: just like that is an experience in and of itself, 509 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: just like being able to pick their brain and what 510 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: it is they're thinking and how they work Like that 511 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: was really cool. 512 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: What interests to you about about about the work? Like 513 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, you said, you're you're you're you're looking at 514 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: maybe selling some projects and you're taking some acting classes, 515 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: like do you want to create? Do you want to like? Where? 516 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: Where do you see yourself here moving forward? If if 517 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: things go. 518 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: Well, well, It's kind of hard to say because I'm 519 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: more of in like this experimental process, just kind of 520 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: trying things out to see if I like them. I'd 521 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 2: like to give my shot at producing as well. And 522 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: so I'm trying to work with David Bernad as well too. 523 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: We're trying to work on stuff, so I'd like to 524 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: shadow him kind of see how he does his things. 525 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 2: I really like the idea of doing like voiceover work 526 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: because I love animated shows, and so if I could 527 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: do like an animated comedy, I would love to do that. 528 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: Hosting is something that I'm going to try to entertain 529 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: as well too, So I'm just going to kind of 530 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: give my shot at anything and just to see how 531 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: it goes and. 532 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: If I like it. You know. The other thing that 533 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: occurs to me this is so cool is you have 534 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: so many people who are trying to get into this business. Uh. 535 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean saying for the wrong reasons. That's that's simplistic. 536 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: But all they want is to get into the business 537 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: because of some perception of what it is or or 538 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: what they could be or what they could do. You're 539 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: you're tricked into it. You're here, You're you're tricked into 540 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: being on uh. You know again, maybe the biggest comedy 541 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 1: of last year, and your your temperament is just like, well, 542 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: let's let's roll with it. Let's just see what happens, 543 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: and if not, you can go back to doing what 544 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: you did before. But you had a good time and 545 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: you're learning a lot, and I uh, I love that. 546 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: I wish all of the best to you, Ronald, and 547 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: and continued uh success, either in this industry or something else, 548 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: and I had a little bit of a family illness 549 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: there for the evening before party, or I would have 550 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: seen you. But one of these days we'll we'll run 551 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: into each other at one of those events. 552 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: A man, yeah, I wish I could have met you there. Damn, 553 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: that's that's a bumer. I'm sorry. I hope everything's all right. 554 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: No, no, everything's fine. But but that that's why I 555 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: wasn't there. But we'll uh well, we'll do it next time, 556 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: all right. 557 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, please, man, I would love to officially get 558 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: to meet you for sure. 559 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you so much, Ronald. I appreciate it, and 560 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: good luck to you. All right, thank you. 561 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: It was a pleasure, Brian. I appreciate you having. 562 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: Me on, Ronald, thanks for coming on. 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