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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything. Well, it's the show, and the name

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Speaker 1: of that show is Holy Shit. Yep, the year Holy Shit.

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Speaker 1: The year Welcome to Holy Shit, the year the show

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Speaker 1: where we learned that years happen and are shocked by

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Speaker 1: this because all of us missed the days in school

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Speaker 1: where the basics of linear time were explained. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a flat circle because my entire education was

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Speaker 1: a single episode of the first season of True Detective

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Speaker 1: and one episode it was it's a great education time.

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Speaker 1: Long time to wait until you can get educated. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean seven years ago, right, Yeah, it was not

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Speaker 1: long ago, Cody. I was in my mid twenties, real,

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Speaker 1: real indictment of the American education system. But I did

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Speaker 1: learn to read. Unfortunately, all I can read is cands

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Speaker 1: of Lone Star's right. That's really been most of what

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Speaker 1: I've needed. Uh, And I would I would be sponsored

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Speaker 1: by a Lone Star, except for as a Texan, I

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Speaker 1: know that Lone Star is the trash Texas beer and

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Speaker 1: the quality, which doesn't mean I won't drink it, but

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Speaker 1: not going to advertise for it. I'll advertise for it,

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Speaker 1: not I have no principles. Um whatsoever? Um, I mean

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Speaker 1: the only principle we stick to is no brain pills

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Speaker 1: or baldness cares. Um, it's about it. That's that one's

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Speaker 1: hard and fast. I will go for a non joke

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Speaker 1: one and say no diet culture ads please, thank you

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Speaker 1: turned that down out of the gate. Yeah, we're getting

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Speaker 1: in trouble with that mistake made this week. Um. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know who else is getting in trouble this week?

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Speaker 1: Internet nationally is the Israeli government for carrying out an

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Speaker 1: ethnic cleansing. There we go in Gaza and East Jerusalem,

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Speaker 1: in the West Bank. I'm told they have that right,

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Speaker 1: though they have the right to defend themselves. Yes, to

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Speaker 1: defend themselves. It's it's like that can't reach their city.

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Speaker 1: When I crash my lifted f J cruiser through the

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Speaker 1: gates of my neighbor's house and start firing a rifle

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Speaker 1: into the side of his trailer. If he comes out

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Speaker 1: and throws a rock at me, I have the right

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Speaker 1: to defend myself. That's an assault upon my person. Um.

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Speaker 1: What I was doing prior to that assault is I

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Speaker 1: would argue immaterial Um. Yes, that is for a violence

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Speaker 1: more or less the argument is for real snaking. I

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Speaker 1: accept that no questions asked UM, and it's it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things I think probably before we get into

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Speaker 1: the nitty gritty we should we can have like a

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Speaker 1: little bigger picture talk about the overall morality of the

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Speaker 1: situation UM on both sides. And by saying both sides,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not making a both sides argument

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Speaker 1: because the death toll is very I mean, like we

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Speaker 1: we can just we have a little graphic here we

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Speaker 1: can go over kind of what the death toll has

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Speaker 1: been in the operation. Since two thousand eight Operation cast Lead,

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Speaker 1: which lasted twenty three days, fourteen hundred and forty Palestinians killed,

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Speaker 1: fifty three hundred injured, forty seven thousand houses destroyed or demolished,

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Speaker 1: thirteen Israeli's killed, five eighteen injured. In two thousand and

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Speaker 1: twelve Operation Pillar of Defense, a hundred and sixty seven

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Speaker 1: Palestinians killed, six Israeli's killed, a thousand Palestinians injured, two

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Speaker 1: hundred thirty nine Israeli's injured, a hundred twenty six houses

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Speaker 1: destroyed a demolished. In two thousand fourteen, one hundred Palestinians killed,

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Speaker 1: seventy three Israeli's killed this Operation Protective Edge, which lasted

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Speaker 1: fifty days, eleven thousand Palestinians injured to seven hundred twenty

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Speaker 1: Israeli's injured, and twenty thousand houses destroyed or demolished. So

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Speaker 1: while they're like it's it's like saying saying violent, there's

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Speaker 1: violence on both sides, is like saying, like somebody starts

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Speaker 1: firing into your yard and you throw a rock at him.

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Speaker 1: There is violence on both sides. That is a fact.

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Speaker 1: It's violent to throw a rock, it's violent to fire

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Speaker 1: blindly into someone's house. But the proportional to keeople out

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Speaker 1: of their houses, yes, absolutely violent to uh continue to

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Speaker 1: do that. Um yeah, it's um, the disparity is very

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Speaker 1: obviously staggering and um yeah um, and even considering like

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Speaker 1: all the you know, the defense systems that are in

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Speaker 1: place to keep that number, um so low compared to

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Speaker 1: so many things that um, they don't even have in

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Speaker 1: CAUSI like just the the electricity alone. Um, but they've

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Speaker 1: been prevented from having what they've been prevented for. Yeah, exact. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason it's often referred to as an open

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Speaker 1: air prison. Yeah. One of the things that I think

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Speaker 1: um Ramala in the West Bank has more rainfall annually

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the things, like I think too often,

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Speaker 1: even even people who are on this kind of on

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Speaker 1: will be like, well, these rockets are don't compare to

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Speaker 1: the kind of weaponry that Israel has and the death

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Speaker 1: tolls don't compare. But you're right, Cody, the the violence

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Speaker 1: goes so far beyond just hamass firing rockets is real

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Speaker 1: firing missiles. It's it's a pattern of behavior designed to

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Speaker 1: slowly eliminate the Palestinian population. UM. And most of that

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Speaker 1: does not involve ordinance. Ordinance is one aspect and kind

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Speaker 1: what the majority of the ethnic cleansing these really state

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Speaker 1: it enters into UM is logistical. Yeah yeah, UM, so

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Speaker 1: what kind of violence does that justify from Palestinians? In response, UM,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a hard and fast

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Speaker 1: the same situation watching my friends and family die, UM, starve,

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Speaker 1: lack have you know, no access to COVID medication, no

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Speaker 1: not enough food, um, no opportunities for the future. Would

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Speaker 1: I feel justified in firing rockets at the people doing that? Yes? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Like I think everybody listening to this show on our

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Speaker 1: other shows know that I've been preoccupied with a lot

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Speaker 1: of family stuff. So I am when I let you

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Speaker 1: guys take lead. But I want to ask some questions

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Speaker 1: and I do have I have been following It's awful,

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Speaker 1: but I I want talk to me about Hamas and

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Speaker 1: the relationship with Palestine and Palestinians, you know, because they

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Speaker 1: broadest overview. And I've checked and checked my understanding of

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Speaker 1: In the beginning sort of of the Israeli state coming

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Speaker 1: part because number one, there were leftist elements of Israeli

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Speaker 1: We're we're actually kind of agree with a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: internationally it gave the Palestinians a lot more um sympathy

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Speaker 1: a lot of those were Marxists, but like a strong

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Speaker 1: Israeli governments saying we're we founded Hamas, we made them happen.

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Speaker 1: And the person I was talking to the Palestinia was like,

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Speaker 1: them united in resistance, You foment divisions, you fund whichever

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Speaker 1: wing and since two thousand six they have taken control

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Speaker 1: a militia, a terrorist group. They do all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: They also run hospitals and schools and stuff. And that's

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Speaker 1: of ship Hamas is doing. One of the things that

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Speaker 1: with social services. And some of that is cold blooded

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Speaker 1: real polity. Some of it is well, we live here

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Speaker 1: and these are our family members, and like it's not

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Speaker 1: I'm really not trying to like be overly simplify it's

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Speaker 1: it's just it's very broad. There's lots of aspects to

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Speaker 1: But it does all tie back to what this oppression

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Speaker 1: And if you look at UM even just sort of

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Speaker 1: various attacks and things like that, it can be relatively low.

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Speaker 1: But then you have an instance where um, so we

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Speaker 1: we referenced the deadliest numbers from Operation Protective Edge, the

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Speaker 1: support from OSS was declining at a certain point, and

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Speaker 1: then this thing and support for them grew. And that

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Speaker 1: probably has something to do with the fact that you're

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Speaker 1: living in this place and you have this bloody conflict,

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Speaker 1: and who is the only entity that's like protecting you

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Speaker 1: in any sort of way. Yeah, Like it makes sense

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Speaker 1: like not targeted Hamas but a civilian. And it's just

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00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: the same old sort of like approach because like you

430
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: get like, okay, um, like the I mean, the human

431
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: shield thing is so frustrating. First of all, Israel is

432
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Speaker 1: his human shields as well. Yeah, I mean, it's it's

433
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: It is one of those questions where it's like, okay,

434
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Speaker 1: so you you're saying it's it's you. Israel are saying

435
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Speaker 1: that you can strike these civilian targets because military targets

436
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: are embedded them. Well, your entire civilian population are are

437
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: basically veterans or active service and can be called up

438
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Speaker 1: to serve. Does that not make every civilian target in

439
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: Israel also a military target? Um? If that's that's not

440
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: the argument I would make, because I don't think it's

441
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Speaker 1: good to strike civilians. But if we're if we're judging

442
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: Israel Israel by the same standards they're judging Palestine, UM,

443
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: then yeah, what Hamas is doing is is just fine.

444
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: Is Jim Dandy by the standards Israel's using in their

445
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: own strikes. Um. Yeah, it's very frustrating to see that, Um,

446
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: the sort of just justification like that and just sort

447
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: of like waving you know, it's even like progressed like Okay,

448
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: well it's human shields. Well they know the human shields. Therefore,

449
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: like it's like it's okay, maybe they're like maybe they're

450
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: asking for maybe they're doing it on purpose, and it's

451
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: just like this is it's just a bizarre, disgusting way

452
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: to talk about civilian casualties when also it's it's like, um, personally,

453
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: I would say, don't shoot the human shield. Yeah, yeah,

454
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: here's the thought I would say. You know, one of

455
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: the things about having um the the Iron Dome and

456
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: having incredibly advanced, first class military hardware and doctrine is

457
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: that maybe you should be able to protect your population

458
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: without massively leveling an entire city. Like if Israel's response

459
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Speaker 1: to all these rockets was to hunker down and defend

460
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Speaker 1: their population and then maybe blockade roads afterwards and stuff.

461
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: And they weren't launching missiles, would they would have a

462
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: lot more sympathy. They would be like, Oh, look, only

463
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: one side's firing rockets. We're just using her. That's not

464
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Speaker 1: what they would ever do, the fire rockets. They want

465
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Speaker 1: them to fire the rockets so they have a reason

466
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: to disproportionately react. Yeah, it's massive retaliation. Um, you know,

467
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: and it's uh, the whole situation is just it's very frustrating. Um,

468
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: it's very frustrating. And like, I've been thinking a lot

469
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: about how effective Israeli propaganda has been in the United

470
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Speaker 1: States because I was subject to a huge amount of

471
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: it when I was a kid. Um. I can remember

472
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: in school learning about the nineteen seventy three yam Kapur War,

473
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: which was it was kind of it was it was

474
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: it was framed as the same thing as like the war,

475
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: all of these Arab nations simultaneously invaded Israel, and We're

476
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: going to wipe it out and kill everybody, and they,

477
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: through sheer stick, tuitiveness and gumption and courage, managed to

478
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: fight off, you know, against incredible odds. And I recently

479
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: watched a really good documentary on Al Jazeera called The

480
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: October War UM that is very even handed, talks to

481
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: a number of veterans on both sides, and for the

482
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: very first time realized, like, oh, they didn't win that one,

483
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: Like that wasn't a victory for Israel. Egypt actually like

484
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: they I mean, the Syrians definitely lost, but Egypt kind

485
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: of one. They took land back, they defeated Israeli forces

486
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Speaker 1: in the field and fought them to a sand standstill elsewhere. Um.

487
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: And it was it's just and I you know, I

488
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: had I had come around to the Palestinian side of

489
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: things before, but I still had never never thought to

490
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Speaker 1: re examine the basics of even what I learned about

491
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: military history in that region. Um. Because all like and

492
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Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons one of the things

493
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: the Israelis have done that's very smart when it comes

494
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: to propagandizing to Americans is they focused on the military

495
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: dimension of things. Because if you if you just start

496
00:28:54,280 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: paying attention to the active fighting, um, you kind it's

497
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: hard not to be sympathetic to the Israelis because they

498
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: have a fascinating military with really interesting doctrine that has

499
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: been very successful for interesting reasons, and they make like

500
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: it's what if you're a military history nerd, even without

501
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: thinking about like why the fighting is happening right and wrong,

502
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: it's easy to just kind of tunnel into learning about

503
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: the strategies and the different things these special forces units

504
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: have done, and like how they were able to so

505
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: successfully destroy the Egyptian UH and Syria I think with

506
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: Gypsum and Syrian air forces during the Six Day War.

507
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: All that you can, you can nerd out over all

508
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: that stuff and kind of without thinking wind up um

509
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: sympathetic to Israel, without ever considering what also happened, what

510
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: happened in between the wars, why the wars were being fought,

511
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: the degree to which things like the years of attrition um,

512
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: and all these kind of like insurgent campaigns the Israelis

513
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: waged against their neighbors like fed into it um. And

514
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: it's it's very smart because Americans see soldiers who look

515
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: our soldiers um and cool military ship, and a lot

516
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: of us won't think about anything beyond that. Even though

517
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: if you were to strip what's happening in Palestine of

518
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: its of its of its locational context and just describe

519
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: the fight to the average dude living out in the

520
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: sticks that would be sympathetic to the Palestinians because they're

521
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: the they're they're the underdogs, they're the people. Yeah, just

522
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: look just like the map over decades and decades. Do

523
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: you think to state solution is even possible? Jesus, I don't.

524
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean I think a question. I think the existence

525
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 1: of states is a big part of the problem here, right, Um.

526
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: But well, two states would just make an official war

527
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: between the two states, right, they would just cause more Um.

528
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: Like this, this idea of states is like part of

529
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: part of the problem. Um. And I'm not going to say,

530
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: like I know how to solve it. Um. But that's

531
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: that's not Yeah, that's just not a thing that I

532
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: think is um. It is in my opinion, in that

533
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: way of thinking about it. If i'm if I'm being asked,

534
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: like what I think could improve the situation. Some of

535
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: it would be an end to the legal justifications for apartheid.

536
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: There are a bunch of Palestinians who are Israeli citizens.

537
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: They do not have the same rights as Jewish Israeli citizens.

538
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: Change that, UM, give Palestinians citizens the right of return

539
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: um to the communities they were kicked out of. Make

540
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: it illegal to have these villages and other communities that

541
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: are are Jewish only. And there's a bunch of them

542
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: in Palestine, often in villages that were Palestinian villages taken

543
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: over during the nakba. UM. So I know that, And

544
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: obviously that wouldn't solve everything. That wouldn't maybe not solve anything.

545
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: But I think just from from a basic stance of

546
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: what's the right thing to do, Um, well, stop but

547
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: number one stopped selling weapons to Israel. They've got enough weapons, um.

548
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: And number two make it like Corvett, the at them

549
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: as an international community until they actually give Palestinians equal

550
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: rights under the law. Um, and see where that goes.

551
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: It seems like a good place after one step one,

552
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: no apartheid anymore, Yeah, I would say, in the Indo

553
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: parteime like it is. I don't know how to solve

554
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: the whole problem, but ending apartheid and not no longer

555
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: giving who are what is already a first class military power,

556
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: tens of billions of dollars in military aid, those two

557
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: things seem pretty simple and doable. Um. And then we

558
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: can kind of see what happens. Um. You know, I

559
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: think I just like you have all these you know,

560
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: such a long old conflict and such a such a history,

561
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: and too sort of try to solve it by doing

562
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: the same old kind of thing. Uh seems like not

563
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: very helpful, and um, you know, ultimately the borders we

564
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: make are meaningless, um and uh, the way to move

565
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: forward is to become closer together, um and not to

566
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: be crashed fuck each other and like live your lives.

567
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: And just like you know, generationally, every generation the generous

568
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: Raeli government heavily restrict heavily like misgenation is like legally

569
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: discouraged basics exactly, and like the like you if you like,

570
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, every generation gets closer together and more accepting

571
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: and all these sort of like history and the conflicts

572
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: melt will melt away, as opposed to being like, well

573
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: now it's now you got you got your country, you

574
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: got yours, everything's fine. Uh, it's it's just like building

575
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: a wall between uh something, and then it gets worse

576
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 1: and or and worse over. Everybody's gonna get mad at

577
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: me for asking that question, but it is the thing

578
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: that people keep talking about. And I love, I love

579
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: this conversation and where it's going. Well, you know, I

580
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: think one of the again, one of the things that

581
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: is used to shut down productive discussion about what's happening

582
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: in Palestine is well, how would you solve it? And

583
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: like if you don't have a ready made solution like okay, well,

584
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: how do you make the two state things where well,

585
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: the Palestinians aren't going to how do you agree on things?

586
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: Like okay, let's take all of that out of your

587
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: question equation, Let's stop the Israeli state from being an

588
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: apartheid state. Let's like remove the legal restrictions on Palestinians,

589
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: give them a right of return at least equal to

590
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: what Jewish Israeli's have UM, And that's a thing you

591
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: can do. I don't know how to solve the whole problem.

592
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how to fix um what is now

593
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: three quarters of a century of um escalating violence and

594
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: ethnic cleansing. But I know where it starts, and it's

595
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: by not having apartheid legally codified in law. Off UM.

596
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: So let's I mean that there. That would be my suggestion,

597
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: and hasn't worked. Stop apartheid, stop the settlements and the occupation.

598
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: It's legal occupation, internationally recognized as the legal occupation. Yes,

599
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: stop the illegal occupation. And again it's one of those

600
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: you don't have to know how to fix the whole problem,

601
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: to fix some of the problems, to fix the most

602
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: obvious problems, the glare, the glaring problems. It's not a

603
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: justification for allowing the atrocities to continue. Yeah, Well, that's

604
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: often the game with stuff like that, Right, it's too

605
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: sort of like, well, throw your hands up though, because

606
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: you don't. You can't. You can't tell me step by

607
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: step every single thing that should happen. So throw your

608
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: hands up, and uh, consider the issue unsolvable and just

609
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: let it continue. Yeah, And that's what the people who

610
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: benefit from the situation as it currently stands once. It's

611
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: the same reason why they will try to get people

612
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: to stop talking about the issue if they don't have

613
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: a complete and scally grasp of the entire history of

614
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: the conflict at all the different sides, is because the

615
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: goal is the longer you delay any kind of productive discussion,

616
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: the more people you kind of frighten or discourage from

617
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: participating in the discussion or from urging things one way

618
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: or the other. The longer this all goes on, and

619
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: the more accomplished, the ethnic cleansing becomes um it's called

620
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: cancel culture. It's called cancel culture, and we hate it.

621
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: We hate it, folks. I think we can take you know,

622
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: I think you can take a head. You know what

623
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: does know how to solve the crisis in Palestine? No, No,

624
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: alutely not. I'd be willing to bet you if you

625
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: ask Lone Star Beer's opinion on the situation Palestine, it

626
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: would get pretty racist and like comprehensively racist. Like Lone

627
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: Star Beer definitely least supports Israel. But in a way

628
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: that's racist, Yeah, in a very like it's very obviously racism.

629
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: But we still would take their ad money. I mean,

630
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Lone Star Beer once is to exist for

631
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: the rapture, right, Yeah, that's probably that seems like a yeah. Yeah.

632
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: Lone Star Beer invested a lot of money in trying

633
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: to breed that special uh cow that they can sacrifice

634
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: on the Temple mount Um in order to ring in

635
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: the apocalypse. So by their beer together everything, we're back.

636
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: Why are we We're solving it. We've did it, We've

637
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: done It's solved the crisis. We did what Jared couldn't

638
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: what did what did Jared Kushner do seems like fixed?

639
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: Well that was Trump, right. Trump was the guy whose

640
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: call it was to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of

641
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Israel again the embassy maybe his Jared's idea? Who knows

642
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: he did win an award, doesn't That doesn't seem right?

643
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: Man in America? Okay, roast dude, Okay, yeah, I mean

644
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: that's what brought us. Are you saying you'd rather if

645
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: you're saying rather Donald Trump than Jared God damn it.

646
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: There's no way to win or Donald Trump Junior? Alright,

647
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: I Trump, he did not win. You have to admit

648
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: that Kushner is more fusible than Donald Trump and Trump

649
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: j and that Scott an invitation. He is more fusible

650
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: than all of the Trump boys. Um, is that really?

651
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Is that really something? To be happy? You're the one

652
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: that brought it up, gave him the award, trying to

653
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: be funny. It didn't if Gene Hackman, Like theoretically, if

654
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman were to um gas attack an entire Walmart

655
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: and then strapped the people in the Walmart with bombs

656
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: and forced me to have sex with either Jared Kushner,

657
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: one of the Trump boys, or Donald Trump himself, Um,

658
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: in order to save the denizens of that Walmart, I

659
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: would pick Kushner, Like, if that was the choice I

660
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: had to make, That's the choice, objectively, the right. Yeah,

661
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't enjoy it, and I would take my

662
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: vengeance on Gene Hackman even more readily than I'm already

663
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: planning to take vengeance on Gene Hackman. Not a babe, certainly, No,

664
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: not a single member of that administration. UM even verged

665
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: on what about Nuchen, what about let's let's go, let's

666
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: be fair, especially especially Manuchen. I mean, we've all got

667
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: our taste, and my taste is manut. The closest, closest,

668
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: the closest de fuckable in that in that administration was

669
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: Mike Flynn. M because he's because he's he's he's out

670
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: of his goddamn mind, and that's kind of hot sometimes. Um,

671
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, you never know he's gonna do. Yeah, that

672
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: lunatic sex, Oh boy, that that honestly believes nobody, no, no,

673
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: there hangs in the bushes. Really, it's really hard to

674
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: be imagining all these people having sex right now. It's unwitting.

675
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: I don't even think spicery like Sean Spicer isn't even

676
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: a virgin because calling him a virgin would imply the

677
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: possibility of him having sex. Yeah, well, everybody's appetite. Yeah,

678
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: imagine like going to a party and it's one of

679
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: those things where you've got to eat sushi off of

680
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: somebody's body. But it's Sean Spicer, I know. Horrible, horrible,

681
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: Like Steven Miller. That was bad, Katie, that was bad. God. Yeah,

682
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: I imagine the fish would spoil as soon as it

683
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: touched Miller's body. Yeah. Yeah, he's part of the problem

684
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: here in Santa Monica. He walks in the ocean and

685
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: all the fish rides to the surface. That's exactly to

686
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: the topic that went far off. Okay, so Jared didn't

687
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: solve it. We did, we did, did we? No? Absolutely no,

688
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: one's no no, no, no, no, no, no no. Um.

689
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. As we record this. UM

690
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: in the occupied West Bank, Israeli forces killed four Palestinian

691
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: protesters during demonstrations UM. Two Palestinians were killed during the

692
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: general strike after they were shot in the chest, and

693
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: another protester diet after being shot in the head. The

694
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: Palestinian Red Crescent says its teams have treated more than

695
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty people in Jerusalem and the West Bank,

696
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: including thirty five with live bullet wounds and over eighty

697
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: from tear gas inhalation. UM. The Palestinian authority says that

698
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: Israeli forces have killed twenty four Palestinians in the West

699
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: Bank since t UM. Palestinians were shot by live ammunition

700
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: nearing the legal Israeli sediment bite l UM. And of

701
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: course a lot of the violence is being done not

702
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: just by by paramilitaries, you know, by paramilitaries and at

703
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: least one case wearing fucking punisher skull patches um and

704
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: really kitted out like fucking proud boy types UM. Because

705
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: that's I mean there and there's a there's a huge

706
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: amount of interchange between those communities. UM. And uh, you're

707
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: you're seeing these groups, these these paramilitary groups in Israel

708
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: being allowed to do a lot of things that our

709
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: own paramilitaries want to do. UM. But in the case

710
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: of Israel, what they're doing, I mean, there have been

711
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: some of these people have been arrested UM for shooting Palestinians,

712
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: but not most of them. UM. And it's uh, it's

713
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: only going to get more stream because that I mean,

714
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: for one thing, UM, Israel has the most conservative young

715
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: population in the Western world, like incredibly strong right wing,

716
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: basically a non existent left wing, about eight percent of

717
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: the electorate. UM. And that's one of the things when

718
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: I think about, like, how can this actually get fixed?

719
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: International condemnation could I think matter, especially if it led

720
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: to economic consequences and a lack you know, a cessation

721
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: of weapons being still sold to the State of Israel,

722
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: that would have an influence. But at the end of

723
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: the day, most of the Israeli population is broadly supportive

724
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: of what's happening. UM. And I don't know how you

725
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: fix that. UM. That's the thing that's scariest is how

726
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: comprehensive a lot of the Likud party, which is you know,

727
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: net Yahoo's party, the right party, how comprehensively they dominate

728
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: a lot there. And it's not to wash away the

729
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: the dissidence within Israel. In fact, there was just a

730
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: big this weekend, a march of I don't it looked

731
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: like a hundred or so um Israeli anarchists marching against

732
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: the violence in Gaza and the West Bank. And there

733
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: absolutely is a peace movement within Israel, but they have

734
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: been UM basically for twenty of the last twenty five years,

735
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: been getting their asses kicked electorally. And I don't know

736
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: how to UM. I don't know how to turn that

737
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: ship around. I certainly don't. I do know, I don't, UM.

738
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: And one of the problems is like the fact that

739
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: you have to serve in the I d F UM,

740
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: which UH inculcates a lot of people into that culture.

741
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: And also, like I knew UM the first Israeli guy

742
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: I ever like befriended the student named Yoni that I

743
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: met in India. UM had just like I wasn't sure

744
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: if he was ever going to get to go back,

745
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: if he was ever going to go back home, because

746
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: he had fled the country to travel around the world

747
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: rather than join the I d F. Like he was

748
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: keep you from being able to go back, Yeah, I mean, well,

749
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 1: I mean you would have he would have to serve

750
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: a term in prison or something. I don't actually know

751
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: what one wound up happened to him, but we hung

752
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: out for a few months, UM, And it was one

753
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: of those things I did not have a particularly strong

754
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: political understanding, but the way he framed was just like

755
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that. I didn't want to

756
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: do the things that I would have to do if

757
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: I was in the I d F UM, and this

758
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: would have been this would have been right around um,

759
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: right after Operation Pillar of Defense UM and right before

760
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: Operation Protective Edge. And so he was just kind of, um,

761
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, a dissident. But also because you know what

762
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: it takes to be a dissident. There, I think is

763
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: part of why. Um. It's it's hard. You know, you're

764
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: you're you're giving up a lot to uh, you know,

765
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: not just in terms of like the fact that you'll

766
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: have to do time in jail, but like, um, you're

767
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: so marginalized. Again, it's like eight percent of the electorate. Um.

768
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: And that's that's a lot to ask, uh somebody to do.

769
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: Most people don't have that kind of moral courage in

770
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: any society. UM. So I do, like I have nothing

771
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: but the greatest respect for those Israeli anarchists marching against

772
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: their government. You know that that takes Uh? Yeah, well

773
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: is that it for us today? If we resolved it,

774
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: we should talk. We're gonna talk a little bit about Gates, right.

775
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: We could end this on on Gates Gate a little

776
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: bit of a fun fun note. Yeah, I mean we

777
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: could also in with the joke that Biden told today

778
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: about Israel and Palestine. You mean apriate that Trump ship

779
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: he pulled earlier. Ye, but I didn't see this, I've

780
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: been so this is from Matt Visor. Matt Visor, white

781
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: house reporter for the Washington Post. So he tweeted this

782
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: out early today. Biden's been at a Ford factory test

783
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: driving their electric vehicles. Right. Um, so he's test driving

784
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: one of them, was like an electric for one. As

785
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 1: Biden was test driving a Ford f onefty reporters asked

786
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: if they could inquire about Israel. No, you can't, he

787
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: said the appooler Alex Thompson. Not unless you get in

788
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: front of the car. As I step on it. I'm

789
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: only teasing. Biden said, okay, here, we're ready to go.

790
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: Here we go ready, and then he floored it. Um right,

791
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: the crowd and over people. Very good, very very fun

792
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: funny man. We love our funny president. We love we

793
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: love our funny president. Um. I didn't set It's just

794
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: like the most progressive president we've ever had. I mean,

795
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: he's certainly is the most talked about this on the

796
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: other show. Yes, he is, but also other things we're saying.

797
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: So if I'm saying, why, what, what use is it

798
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: that our president is test driving cars? I'm sorry? I mean,

799
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: what use was it for Trump to get in that

800
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: truck and scream like a big boy? That was the

801
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: only thing he did. I liked because his his attitude

802
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: is exactly what mine would be driving a similar car. Yeah,

803
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of like when he walked

804
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: onto Air Force One with toilet paper dangling off his shoes.

805
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: That I like. I like when he stared at and

806
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: pointed at the sillary clips literally when someone screamed, don't

807
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: look at it. That was pretty good. You're right now.

808
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: That was our funny little president. I liked when he left. Yeah,

809
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: that was good too. Yeah. And yeah, let's talk about

810
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: Gates Gate as which is different from the Bill Gates

811
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: Gates but well but both of them are do probably

812
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: involve sex with underage? Yeah, very similar. Gates. Yeah, so

813
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: always the person you kind of might suspect still in office, Gates.

814
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of those things. A lot of

815
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: like folks further on the left have been like saying,

816
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: this is part of the you know, you have the

817
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: kind of Blue Q and on ship where people are

818
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: expecting Trump to go to prison and you know, all

819
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: of his his family and like this wave of arrests

820
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: that are never going to get like like I think

821
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: he'll probably continue to get sued, he may lose a

822
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: bunch of money as a result of lawsuits. Nobody's putting

823
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: him in prison. It's not going to happen. It should

824
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: have happened, but it's not. Um, And people are lumping

825
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: in what's happening with Gates to that like, oh, he's

826
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: never going to actually get arrested, And I don't know

827
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: that I agree with that. Um, yeah, I think that, Um,

828
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: there seems to be quite a bit there and the

829
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: guys like his buddy flipping on him. Yeah, it seems

830
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: pretty significant. Um, I don't all like that's yeah. I

831
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 1: I get the you know obviously, like most people don't

832
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: face consequences, and I get the desire to be like

833
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: don't don't like, don't have any hope that that will happen,

834
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: because you probably, I mean, but it really does seem

835
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: like he's in he's it really does, um, And he's

836
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: just like he's just like flying through it. He's just

837
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: like posting he's it's like it's not, nothing's happening, but

838
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: it really does seem like blows my mind. Well that's

839
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: the move, right, that's the move that usually works. You post,

840
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: you post through it, you don't, you don't. Uh, you

841
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: say either the lying media, But I don't know, is

842
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: your buddy lying to? Are the VENMO receipts lying? Um?

843
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: Veneral receipts don't lie, Cody. There seems to be. And

844
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: maybe it'll wind up that he doesn't. They can't catch

845
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: him on actually having sex with a minor. Maybe there's

846
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: just not any way to prove that. But like, it

847
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: definitely looks like he was trafficking women, like he was

848
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: paying for sex and transporting people across state lines to

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Speaker 1: pay for sex, which on its own carries some time. UM.

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Speaker 1: Not that I think it should be illegal to do that,

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Speaker 1: but it is is um and he would certainly publicly

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Speaker 1: say that it should be. UM wanting you know, he

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Speaker 1: rails against uh, you know, mandatory, like he wants mandatory

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Speaker 1: drug test for anyone getting welfare and things like that. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're doing drugs, buddy, Yeah, he's definitely doing a bunch

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Speaker 1: of coke and ship next to see. Yeah, but like

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Speaker 1: the stuff coming out has been fun because he sounds like, um,

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Speaker 1: all of the worst people I partied with when I

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Speaker 1: was twenty, But he's in his forties and in Congress, right,

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Speaker 1: Kates Kushner Kushner, Yeah, I think it has to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get him a trophy that says most fuckable person

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Speaker 1: in the least fable group of people ever assembled. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's nice. That's a nice one. That because maybe we

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Speaker 1: could do some sort of merch along those lines. Huh yeah,

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Speaker 1: m hm. Anyways, this sucks, so yeah, I have hope

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Speaker 1: he'll go to jail. I hope so for X changing

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Speaker 1: money for naughty favors, as he phrased it, Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: naughty favors. Definitely. That's just the example of him not

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Speaker 1: pretending to not take it seriously. Yeah. Yeah, Um, I

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Speaker 1: think this is one of the few cases where it's

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Speaker 1: like maybe maybe he's not going to get through this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And he's doing all this America First stuff with Marjorie

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Speaker 1: Taylor Green where it's like, so like that's the only

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Speaker 1: person who's like willing to chill with you anymore. Um, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, we did that just you

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Speaker 1: Can we just end it on you? You to Ethnic Cleansing,

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Speaker 1: you to Matt big thumbs down. Yeah, you guys are

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Speaker 1: some big thumbs up. Big thumbs up. Listeners, Listeners, y'all

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Speaker 1: rock Put that thumb up there, shut that thumb right

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Speaker 1: on up. Yeah, get that. I'm in there wiggling around

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Speaker 1: again because it's so good. Thumbs up, what are you

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Speaker 1: talking about? And so dumb everything so dump it's got

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