1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Rian Ink 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are fresh off the 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: field following the Ravens first padded practice of training camp. 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: This day that we all look forward to, and you know, 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: it feels more like football today. 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: I thought it felt more physical when the energy was 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: definitely ramped up, like it was. It's not just lip 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: service that it felt like a different practice. There was 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: way more physicality and energy and it was fun to watch. 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: I thought like, in particular, I thought the defense came out, which, 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: like the first day I've hadded practice, you kind of 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: feel like this is a defense day. I always feel 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: that way, Like the defense gets revved up, they're ready 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: to go, They're really excited. 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: To take the physicality, to get paid to hit people. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like that feels like a defense day. And 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 2: I thought that like they came out to play that way. 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: I know they've spent a lot of time talking this 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: offseason about wanting to be a feel defense and kind 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: of get back to that brand of football, and I 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: thought that they came out and played today with an 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: attitude that was resembled that mindset that they have. 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. I thought the offense hit 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: it shots though too. 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was like a dominated you know 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: that the defense just totally. 27 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: Dominated the day. 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: There was a lot of zach Orr and the defense 29 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: brought a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure. The 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: offense handled, you know, handled it well sometimes and the 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: defense got home sometimes. But I thought, actually, the offense 32 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: like did pretty well with it. And uh, you know, 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: Lamar found out. Let's found Derrick Henry on one that 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: he kind of gashed him on on a little screen 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: is what it looked like. So I thought it was 36 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: just a good day all the way around. And I'll 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: tell you one guy that stood out to me that 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: should be no surprise. That's a big dog, Mark and 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Yes Manrews was O Barkin, Yeah, and he I think 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: it was the first play of eleven's Lamar to Mark 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Andrews gets gets kind of behind row down the scenm 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: then just runs runs through two tacklos. I think it 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: was Nate Wiggins and a safety and just just kind 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: of was like, nah, I'm running through this the two 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: of you, and then later had a eighty eighty five 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: yard touchdown where I think he was you know, nobody 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: was even following him after forty yards, and he just 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: continued just roll like a runaway train down the field 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: just to kind of prove the point it was. 50 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: It was classic Mark Andrews. 51 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: I mean, runaway train that was going full speed, like 52 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: he didn't slow down. He was sprinting. 53 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: Runaways trains don't slow down fair like he. 54 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 4: Was sprinting when there was nobody within twenty. 55 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: Yards of him. Yes, that's correct. 56 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Mark was good. 57 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: I actually thought I was watching individual drills and this 58 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: is just when they're kind of getting loose and getting 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: warmed up, and he was like coming in out of 60 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: he was barking, coming in and out of his brakes, 61 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: like huffing and puffing, and like you could hear him 62 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 2: just watching watching the drills like no big dog bark 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that, Like I know, there's a 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: lot of talk about Mark Andrews this offseason, and both 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: of us were firmly in the camp of the team 66 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 2: is better with Mark Andrews on it, and so it's 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm very glad that he's here. And I think that 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: there's been like multiple moments to me in training camp 69 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: that illustrate that point. Today being one of them where 70 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: I thought the defense, I thought, especially early in practice, 71 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: the defense was was winning practice. I thought that they 72 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: were handling the line of scrimmage, they were getting pressure, 73 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: and there were a couple of moments where like Lamar 74 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: just finds Mark Andrews when you need when you need 75 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: to play, like when you need something to happen. Mark 76 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: is the guy that's there. And like he he plays hard. 77 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: I think he's a tone center. That's the other thing 78 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: that like it's hard to quantify, but like Mark has 79 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: such an edge to him and he plays hard all 80 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: the time. That like when you go out there on 81 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: the first day of pads and the defense is revved up, 82 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: Like I just mentioned, who's going to match that on 83 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: the offense? Well, I think Mark Andrews is the perfect 84 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: guy to match that intensity. 85 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: Yep. 86 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: Talk about another guy who plays with physicality, and that's 87 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins, who should have, in my opinion, 88 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: had the highlight of the day. 89 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, one handed catch in the back of the end zone. 90 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Uh, just a phenomenal play and gets called for the 91 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: offensive pass interference. I'm going, you know, we're we can 92 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: review the tape on that one, but I'm calling Belgoney 93 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: on that. 94 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: Well, Nate Wagas was the one of coverage. 95 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure he meet you with disagree he he disagree 96 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 3: with you firmly. 97 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: The DBS and that and the guys on defense definitely 98 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: thought it was O PI. 99 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: That's correct, it was. I thought it was pretty clean, 100 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: little hand fighting both ways. I did. 101 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: I did enjoy the way and they afterwards kind of 102 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: went up to Lamar and was like kind of celebrating 103 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: rate in the space to kind of be like suo, 104 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: so you can didn't get me, you know, and Lamar 105 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: kind of jokingly kind of punched the back of his 106 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: shoulder pads and uh, they were having fun out there. 107 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you that that was a heck of 108 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: a catch by Nuke. Oh. 109 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Look, we've we've talked in the past week just about 110 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: how DeAndre Hopkins continues to make plays. 111 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: Thought that that was another one. 112 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: I mean, that was regardless of whether it was OPI 113 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: or not. Like Wiggins was right there, like he had 114 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: great coverage. This is the situation of like when he's 115 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: not open, he's still open. Wiggins, who I think is 116 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: going to be awesome this year, was right there and 117 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: Lamar put it up where only Hawkins could get it, 118 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: and he makes a one handed catch toe tap in 119 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: the back of the end zone. 120 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: Remarkable play. 121 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Now again some hand fighting and DBS would say it 122 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: was OPI and Hopkins felt like it wasn't. Probably could 123 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: have gone either way or no call, and obviously the 124 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: ref ended up throwing the flag on it. But still 125 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: like from in terms of just watching practice and having 126 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: a great play and feeling like feeling good about a player, 127 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: I come away from that feeling like, man, DeAndre Hopkins 128 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: just continues to impress me. 129 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: Here's what I take away from that is there's one 130 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: call down in the red zone that I really. 131 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: Loathe, and that's the jump ball. 132 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: It just it just feels to me, I don't have 133 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: the analytics on this. Maybe I should ask the football analytics, 134 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: as they know a lot more than I do. 135 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: It feels low percentage to me. 136 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: I think generally speaking, the analytics show that it is 137 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: a low percentage play. 138 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: And and really that isn't like you're not throw fades 139 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: to say Flowers lobs, you know, jump balls to Zay Flowers. 140 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: It's not really Bateman's game either, Like does it put 141 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: that with d hop I don't. I don't hate the call. 142 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it kind of. 143 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: Puts it in the repertoire potentially for Todd Munkin. Now, 144 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here calling for fades all day long 145 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: now with Derreck Henry in the backfield and the other 146 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: all the other assortment of weapons that the Ravens have 147 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: that are so dangerous in the red zone. But like, 148 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: to me, d hop gives you that's a matchup problem, 149 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: especially with all the other weapons. 150 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: He's gonna be one on one. Yeah, And I don't, 151 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: I don't hate it. 152 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be tough for DB's like he's 153 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: got a size advantage over most dbs. He's got great hands, Yep, 154 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: he can still go up and get the football. So 155 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: it's a low that fader out being low percentage. The 156 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: percentage ticks up when it's Hopkins in that one on 157 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: one situation. 158 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: So I don't like it. 159 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: Does it put it in the play, But I think 160 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: it does, that's the question. I think it probably does. 161 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: I think that, like it's probably in the mix. 162 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Well and honestly, like, yeah, it's practice right and opa 163 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: OPI got called, but you're going against Nate Wiggins and 164 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: he made a hell of a catch. And if you're 165 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: top monking and you're watching to make that catch, you're like, 166 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, you know, maybe maybe maybe I'll give 167 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: that a shot. 168 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: Right. 169 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: Look, he's He's caught plenty of back shoulder, deep or 170 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: fade routes. 171 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: Right, So I want to roll it back when Di 172 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: hop catches the fade touchdown this year, run it this 173 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: tape back, mark the date down, mark it down, first 174 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: day pads. 175 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: We were calling it for the first day, call. 176 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: For on the we got it. 177 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it could be part of 178 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: the repertoire this year. And like when we talk about 179 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: Hopkins and elements that he's adding to the offense, that 180 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: is one of them. I think the outside the numbers 181 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: can test to catch stuff is really what we're talking 182 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: about in large measure, and that is a piece of 183 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: that equation. 184 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: Yep, I thought offensively. Another guy that continues to stand 185 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: out for me is keithon Mitchell. I mean, you know 186 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: you talk about even when the pads come on, like 187 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: this dude, that's kind of the test, right. It is like, 188 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: all right, he looks really fast, confirmed, but I thought 189 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: the pads come on, he was still running with physicality, 190 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: running between the tackles. It's not just like, it's not 191 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: just gadget stuff with him. I thought he looked good today. 192 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought like he didn't break any big runs, yeah, 193 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: which is caught his calling card. 194 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: I will tell you one he sidestep Ojabo and it 195 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: was just a whiff. I mean it was a ridiculous 196 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: cut in a phone booth. 197 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: Crazy. 198 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: Well, what I like about Keith Mitchell And I remember 199 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: this with him as a rookie with a small guy 200 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: who's calling card to speed. You think, can't run between 201 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: the tackles, right, exactly that, And it was not the case. 202 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: He could still run between the tackles and he didn't 203 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: hesitate to get out there today. And there were some 204 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: there was a couple of plays where like it was physical, 205 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: there were bodies kind of battling in there, and he 206 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: was able to find some some yardage. Again, no big 207 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: runs for him, but I do like the willingness and 208 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: like the his ability to make people miss even in 209 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: tight spaces. 210 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, flipping over the defensive side. You know, 211 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: this is the first padded practice for the rookies. And 212 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: one dude that caught my eye throughout practice was rookie 213 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: Mike Green, the outside linebacker, second round pick. This dude, 214 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, lead the nation and sacks last year, but 215 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: he is not a finesse rusher. Is a big, physical man, 216 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: and honestly today he stood out to me more today 217 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: than he has at any point during training camp so far. 218 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. I think that he 219 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: seemed to take a step when the pass came on. 220 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: There was one playing in particularly now it was kind 221 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: of a jailbreak play. There were like five guys in 222 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: the backfield, but he was probably the first, the first 223 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: one there to meet Cooper Rush in the backfield and 224 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: you saw the power and the athleticism and the and 225 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: the kind of the burst to get to the quarterback, 226 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: and so he was right there. Probably would have had 227 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: a sack on that play. Again, there were like three 228 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: others in pursuit, so I don't know what was going 229 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: on in the protection on that play, but he was 230 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: in the backfield and that wasn't the only play where 231 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: he got into the backfield he was. 232 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: He's good. 233 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: He has he has a full arsenal of pass rush moves. 234 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: He has the athleticism and like he's big and physical, 235 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: like you look at him just when you when he 236 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: steps onto the field for these practices. 237 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: He does not look physically like a rookie. 238 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes you see a guy out there and you're like, 239 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: he's he really needs a year to get in the 240 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: weight room and to get his body ready for NFL contact, 241 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: and there's he can still be good, but you might 242 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: still need to put on weight. Like, he does not 243 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: look physically like a rookie, and that was evident today. Yeah. 244 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: I thought a couple of plays. One he kind of 245 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: peeled back to tackle Keaton. I thought it was good 246 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: play to get off the block and kind of get Keaton. 247 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: He also in one on one drills put a dude 248 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: on his back. 249 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: Huh. I thought that was eye opening. And and then. 250 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: Did the Senior Bowl. 251 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yes, that was one of the viral clips 252 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: from the Senior Bowl. 253 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: That was the guy went in the first round. 254 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget who it was, Josh Connell, Yeah, connor Ley. 255 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: It's been so long since the draft, it feels like 256 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: two years ago. But you know, one play that caught 257 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: my eye with Mike Green was like Lucas Scott, who's 258 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: an undrafted former offensive lineman. He's converted to fullback. This 259 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: is a big dude six three three h five came 260 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: across the formation and he and Mike Green just it 261 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: was a coalition and like, that's a big fullback hitting you. 262 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: And Mike Green stood in there and just took that lick. 263 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh man, that was a 264 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: big one. And I just I just I it wasn't 265 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: like Mike just like he bounced off of Mike or whatever. 266 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: Like it was both of them got a good lick. 267 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: It was a collision and uh and I just I 268 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: just was like this dude. I come away from the 269 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: practice being like, Mike Green is a physical, powerful man. 270 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels like he feels pro ready, and I 271 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: think that he is somebody who when the pads come on. 272 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: I've kind of felt like he's gonna look even better 273 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: once the pads come on, because he's not, like you said, 274 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: he's not a finesse player who's just like relies only 275 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: on a speed who's gonna look really good in short, 276 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: It's like he's a powerful He's a powerful rusher who 277 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: has a lot of different ways that he can get 278 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: to the quarterback and and powers one of them yep, 279 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: and he can put you on your back, or he 280 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: can stand in there and you know, take a hit 281 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: from a three hundred punds full back coming across the middle. 282 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: So I like the way that he plays the game. 283 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: And I think that today was a good sign for him. 284 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: Well, we'll stay on the outside. 285 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Linebackers and the rookiesdafe Oa and Carson Vincent. Yeah, I 286 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: mean early in practice, this was kind of early indicasion. 287 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: Pads are on, it's a different kind of day, and 288 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: those two got into it a little bit. And oh 289 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: way swinging and with Vincent, which all right, like fine, 290 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: you know you hey, you don't want. 291 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: To see O dafe Away get hurt. 292 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't really love you know, he's a very important 293 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: player swinging with helmets on. 294 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: I don't really love that. 295 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: I do kind of like that. The rookie, I don't know, 296 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: it depends on what sparks it. But like Carson Vincent 297 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: being a physical rookie and like getting after somebody a. 298 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: Little bit, like all right, you know, like you're kind 299 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: of a rookie. It depends on what he did. 300 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, something to know. 301 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: I think sometimes like when the pats come on and 302 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: guys are getting physical, that's the type of stuff that 303 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: that can see that you. 304 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: See and credit to both guys like flared up, cool down, 305 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: real fast. You know, it wasn't like it was something 306 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: that it derailed practice by any stretch of imagination. 307 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: But like this stuff happens. 308 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: It's hot, it is really hot out there first fat 309 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: of practice, and so like it happens. But I thought, 310 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's a way as a monster. He's been 311 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: I think, really good in training camp and like, all right, rookie, rookie, 312 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: he's giving him, giving him something, you know what I mean. 313 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: I mean, look, we're talking like pass rush. A thing 314 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: that stood out to me. 315 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: There's a period during eleven on a eleven drills where 316 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: the defense really ramped up the pressure like they were 317 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: bringing it one at one point in particular, like they 318 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: were sending dbs while Humphrey came downhill and had a 319 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: collision with Derrick Henry in the backfield. Another one Kyle 320 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: Hamilton came down just crashed down and just kind of 321 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: blew up the line a nice spin move. Yeah, Like 322 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: they just kind of blew up the protection on that play. 323 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: And I thought in that period, like the defense really 324 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: seemed to win it for me, like they they they 325 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: were getting after the quarterback. Both Lamar and Cooper Rush 326 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: were under a lot of dress. 327 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: I thought. 328 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: I thought, generally speaking, I thought the interior blocking was 329 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: pretty good, but yeah, the defense was bringing the heat. 330 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna lose, Like when that happens, you're gonna lose 331 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: some Yeah, right, they're bringing extra pressure. 332 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 333 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: I will also say it does make me think about 334 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: like how more how much more aggressive this defense could 335 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: be this season under Zach Orr especially and John Harball 336 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: talked about a little bit when if you have confidence 337 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: in your outside corners to match up man to man 338 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: one on one, you know, and and maybe playing single 339 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: high coverage or whatever, like you have Jay r Alexander 340 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: now Nay Wiggins and year two that you're expecting to 341 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: take a big step, you got Marlon Humphrey, you know, cheeto, 342 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: like you're loaded at corner. If you feel really good 343 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: about your ability to play outside, which John Harwall referenced 344 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: like outside the hash marks, you know those boundary what 345 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: is he called red line the red line areas, Like 346 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: if you feel strong about that, it gives you more 347 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: ability to do more blitzing and like kind of saw 348 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Zach Gord Island it up today. 349 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: And also with guys that like are good blitzers from 350 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: the dB standpoint. Kyle Hamilton and Morton Humphrey are both 351 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: really good blitzers, yes, and they're they're willing to do 352 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: it sure, And so I think that like you have 353 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: players who you have the good corners like you're talking about, 354 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: but then you also have dbs who are really good 355 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: at getting after the quarterback when called upon in that situation. 356 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: So they kind of have the advantage on both ends. 357 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: And I think we got a taste of that today 358 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: and I really thought like particularly they brought the heat 359 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: on Cooper rush Tom and Mike Green as we just 360 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: talked about, he was one of the guys in that 361 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: situation as well. 362 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Yep, it was a little bit of a tougher day 363 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: for Tyler Loop had his first misses of training camp today, 364 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: three misses, one of which went his first one went 365 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: off the left upright, whereas John Hoyland did not have 366 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: any misses today. So a good day for John Hoyland. 367 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: But you know, I think that Tyler Loop overall has 368 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: had a really good camp. He had misses a forty 369 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: three to thirty eight and forty five yards. I think, 370 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, as I said, these are his first of camp, 371 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I think that overall he's been good. 372 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: He's been good. Today was not his best day. I 373 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: do like he bounced back, you know, it's all like 374 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: he kind of went went into a hole after missing kicks. 375 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: He bounced back and then was able to hit the 376 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: kicks after missing him. So you know, that's that's part 377 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: of what we're gonna see here, is how these two 378 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: young kickers. I think the first last week, Tyler Loop, 379 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: we were really talking about him. 380 00:16:59,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: Later in the week. 381 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: He had a sixty three yarder in full team and 382 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: he had a sixty eight yarder earlier in practice, not 383 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: during the full team portion, but he showed off the 384 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: leg and the accuracy, and so now you got to 385 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: keep it going. 386 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 4: You need to be consistent, and today wasn't as consistent. 387 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: But I think that him being able to bounce back 388 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: and get back on track is going to be kind 389 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: of the story for him over the course of camp. 390 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that'll be kind of a storyline tomorrow. Right, 391 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: you have a tougher day, you bounce back and go 392 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: perfect next day, right. 393 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: Like, obviously he's not going to go perfect throughout training camp. 394 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: That's just not realistic. But you want to be as 395 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: close to that as possible and you don't want to 396 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: see any kind of trend. So three misses in one 397 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: day is more than you'd like. And and then, like 398 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: you said, the story for the next day will be 399 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: how we respond to it. 400 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: Yep, all right, let's take a break. 401 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk about some injury updates 402 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: from practice as well as what we heard from Zay 403 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: Flowers today on podium. 404 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Latch podcast. We're coming to you 405 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: from the Seakeek studio. We also want to mention our 406 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: partners with Drafting sports Book. They are an official sports 407 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draftking Sportsbook. The Crown 408 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: is Yours. So we did have some injury updates today. 409 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: JayR Alexander did not practice today. John Harbaugh said after 410 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: practice that he had some swelling in his knee, and 411 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: so did say that he expect him out there tomorrow. 412 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: But that's why he was not out there practice today. 413 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: Right, He missed that. 414 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: The knee was why he missed time last year and 415 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: he's coming off of arthroscopic knee surgery, So like keep 416 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: that in mind, right, Like, this is a player who 417 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: had season ending surgery ultimately last year. So you know, 418 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: he said he feels great and all that, but I think, hey, 419 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: John said he expects him back tomorrow. 420 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I'm not raising the alarms here. 421 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 422 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: The other thing too, is for guys who are he 423 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: wasn't on the team this entire offseason and so these 424 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: are his first practices. He hasn't practice, so he's been training, 425 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: but he hasn't practiced until this last week. So also 426 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: Razar Bateman did not practice, just sick, sent home sick. 427 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the last one, the rookie Blokne was 428 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: not I practice today. 429 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: John Harwell said he landed on his shoulder. Expects him 430 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: to be back soon. Yep. 431 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: So there's some injury updates off After practice today, we 432 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: also had a chance to hear from day Flowers and 433 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: some interesting notes and takeaways and hearing from Day one 434 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: of which is that he said that he's faster, Like 435 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: he said that he went to work this office. He's 436 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: already super fast. Okay, let's start there. So I don't 437 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: know how much faster he could get, but he said 438 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: he went to work this off season trying to improve 439 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: that speed running hills. Maybe he's taking lessons from Derrick 440 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: Henry running hills. 441 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: So we saw him with Lamar running away best. 442 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's doing all of that, and so that 443 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: was part of his off season training. And he said 444 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: that since he's been out here on the field, he 445 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: feels faster, feels more explosive, and his teammates are saying 446 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: the same thing to him. 447 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: And Greg Lewis, the Ravens wide receivers coach, backed that 448 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: up with the analytics, said that, yeah, the analytics show 449 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: that he's faster. His day kind of was like, I 450 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't pay attention much attention to that stuff, 451 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: but Greg Lewis did, and he said, yeah, it's it 452 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: says he's faster too, So you know, he also said 453 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: to your question that he expects hit more deep plays 454 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: this year than that's a focus of theirs. And certainly 455 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: if you feel faster, you know, yeah, there you go 456 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: hit more plays over the top. And I mean it 457 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: was the first I think it was Lamar Jackson's first 458 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: throw a training camp was a cross or to Zay Flowers, 459 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: like a ten yard crosser or something. That he took 460 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: and just looked like got was shot out of a 461 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: cannon after he caught that ball and just ran through 462 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens secondary in the route to a touchdown. So 463 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: you looked he does, to the eye, look very very fast, 464 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: And I think that that is kind of a you know, 465 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: I would say, certainly as a rookie, and even last 466 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: year when I would talk about za Flowers, the thing 467 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: that stood out to me was his shiftiness, his ability 468 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: after the catch to break your ankles, the jukes, all 469 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: that stuff. Super shifty. Like I didn't say, like, oh, 470 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: that's the fastest guy on the field. You know, like 471 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: when you watch Keaton Mitchell run, you're like that dude's 472 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: crazy fast. Will I will say, And again it's not 473 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: like he's like that much faster or whatever, but like 474 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: he does look fast. 475 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: He looks faster. 476 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a couple of years last year, 477 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: Lamar lost the weight and came back in training camp 478 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: and like we were like, wow, he looks faster compared 479 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 2: to what he was now. It's not like there's been 480 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: a body change with Zay, but sometimes you just watch 481 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: practice and you're like, man, that guy just seems faster. 482 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: And I get that sense with him, like he's been 483 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: awesome early in camp, He's made a lot of plays, 484 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: and honestly, sometimes I would say in training camp, star 485 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: players are often quiet in camp, Like that's because they're 486 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: not going crazy with the number of reps that they're 487 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: taking and they're not force feeding it. And star players 488 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 2: can often get the star treatment and they're not like, 489 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: you know, they're easing in a little bit and so like. 490 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: But that's not been the case with say, Like he 491 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: has been putting up big plays. He's getting a lot 492 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: of action. I just think he looks great and it's 493 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: really encouraging. 494 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: He's he's a hungry dude too. 495 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: I mean you think about how his rookie season ended 496 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship Game and the pain of that, 497 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: and then last year he didn't even get a chance 498 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: to play in the playoffs because of his knee injury. Yeah, 499 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: and like this is a hungry, hungry young guy. 500 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited. 501 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: Coming off a career year top one thousand yards and 502 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: went to the Pro Bowl. 503 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think he could take given another step 504 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: this year, and just seems like he seems like he's 505 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: going to be such a he's already like a focal point, 506 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: but just seems like he's going to be somebody that 507 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: when other teams are playing the Ravens, like starting the 508 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: conversation with how they stop Zay Flowers in the passing game, 509 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: I think is going to be a critical piece for that, 510 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: for opposing defensive coordinat. 511 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: I think it always starts with Lamar and then it 512 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 3: probably gives the Lamar. 513 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: Is obviously conversation point number one. 514 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: Derek Henry might be right behind him. 515 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: There's a lot of weapons. 516 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys to talk about a lot 517 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: of weapons, and honestly that helps say man, that opens 518 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 1: it up for everybody, including him and I I think 519 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna top of the thousand again and he's gonna 520 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: be really good. 521 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he looks great, So I'm a curt 522 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 2: And John Harball even made the point too, like what 523 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 2: do you expect from him? 524 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: Like we expected to be one of the best. 525 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: And that's that's the view that the Ravens have Ham 526 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: and their outlook for what he could do. 527 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: Yep, yep. 528 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: So fun first practice and pads. 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