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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz,

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Speaker 1: were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau

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Speaker 1: Field and West we have the preseason opener for the

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Speaker 1: Packers to talk about. Took place last Thursday at lambeau

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Speaker 1: Field against the Tennessee Titans. And I think when you

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Speaker 1: start evaluating analyzing this game, a game in which Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers did not play, I think it starts with the

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Speaker 1: fact that all three of the Packers backup quarterbacks were productive,

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Speaker 1: got things done, moved the ball, scored points all three

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Speaker 1: of them. Now, there were some opportunities that were missed,

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Speaker 1: some opportunities left out there on the field, but the

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Speaker 1: Packers have to feel pretty good about where their quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: at suation sits right now. Yeah, the passing game wasn't

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Speaker 1: an issue at all in this contest. Three seventy two

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Speaker 1: total yards of offense by the three backup quarterbacks combined.

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Speaker 1: And I mean you look at those passer ratings. Tim

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Speaker 1: Boyle walks away with a hundred sixteen point seven Brett

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Speaker 1: Hunley uh and economical eighty one point one. All told,

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Speaker 1: they were ninety eight and some big plays. I think

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Speaker 1: all three of them made big plays throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of that game. Each one had a passive at least

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Speaker 1: forty eight yards. The completion at the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: game from Brett Hunley down to Davante Adams, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you could make a case that that might be the

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Speaker 1: finest throw he's made in in three four four camps. Now,

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Speaker 1: so that was an impressive play. And that was against

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, not mistaken. Yeah, so your margin for air

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Speaker 1: was really small on that plane, yet he still put

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Speaker 1: it in the right spot. Davante Adams, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: are one of our videos we did for three things

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Speaker 1: this week. He looks like he's in mid season fom

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Speaker 1: already to Sean Kaiser comes in fifty one yard completion

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Speaker 1: down to Marquez Veldez scantling, and then Tim Boyle, not

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Speaker 1: being one up to all, not to be outdone, finishes

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Speaker 1: the night with a fifty two yard pass uh to

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Speaker 1: Jake kumarout. So a really good solid performance, and I

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Speaker 1: thought we got to see a lot from those young

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Speaker 1: receivers on this roster as well. Yeah, I think when

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Speaker 1: you look at where things are at the backup quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Brett Hunley, he was going against the ones for the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. I think he's clearly ahead of Deshaun Kaiser

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Speaker 1: right now, and just in terms of his efficiency and

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Speaker 1: everything with the offense, that's to be expected. This was

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser's first game essentially running this offense against another opponent.

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Speaker 1: So we will watch that as the preseason goes along.

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Speaker 1: But you mentioned a couple of those young receivers Valdez, Scantling,

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Speaker 1: had four was a four catches for sixty one yards UM. Now,

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Speaker 1: this was coming on the heels of those comments from

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Speaker 1: many mental mistakes, not really finishing through when they're tired

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Speaker 1: after a long practice, that kind of thing. A couple

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Speaker 1: of these guys really stepped up and answered the bell.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was most interesting. Valdi Scantling had a

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Speaker 1: really good comment after the game saying and that, well,

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Speaker 1: that's your quarterback, that's a Hall of Fame type player. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's telling you you need to rise your game, need

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Speaker 1: to rise your level play. H that's gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: light a fire under everybody. And both Valdes Scantling and

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Speaker 1: Jake Kumro said after those comments were made last week,

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers came together, they had a meeting about that.

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Speaker 1: They agree they were not gonna have a practice like

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Speaker 1: that again. They were gonna rise their um you know,

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Speaker 1: raise their level of urgency if you will, um and

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Speaker 1: and really not let that moment be lost on them

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Speaker 1: that you only get a month here to show what

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Speaker 1: you have to offer trying to make that fifty three

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Speaker 1: man roster, and ultimately everybody this is a full time job.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's just trying to make a living. But if you

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Speaker 1: do make the fifty three, I think one of the

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Speaker 1: things that everybody understands is you have to be relied on,

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Speaker 1: you have to be counted upon, you have to be

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Speaker 1: trusted by Aaron Rodgers. So while for them, I'm with them,

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Speaker 1: you know you got impressed, you gotta show your skills

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Speaker 1: and you need to make that roster for this in

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Speaker 1: of this to be meaningful. Aaron Rodgers is looking in

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Speaker 1: catch the coach's eye when it's you know, as they say,

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Speaker 1: like a fifty ball, when that defender has just to

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Speaker 1: receiver can not only prevent a potential interception but make

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Speaker 1: what that play in the in the back of the

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Speaker 1: you know, footwork wise, he still managed to to stay

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Speaker 1: We've seen these young receivers have their rough moments in practice.

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Speaker 1: We saw Jamon more This guy was getting open a

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Speaker 1: the big play could have been a sixty five yard touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Really nice throw from Tim Boyle, can't quite bring it in,

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Speaker 1: I think that's another guy we're gonna be talking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I was talking to Tim Boyle a little bit

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Speaker 1: all three of them really step up. The biggest key

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Speaker 1: for them is going to be the consistency factor. The

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Speaker 1: it felled this scantling again, I mentioned over and over again,

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Speaker 1: when those big play opportunities came, they capitalized one shifting

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Speaker 1: came in with a very basic game plan defensively, not

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Speaker 1: It was a game of let's line up and play

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Speaker 1: and let's see what we have a lot of guys,

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Speaker 1: a lot of read others. On defense, we're sitting out,

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Speaker 1: now is the guy who's raising his hand in the classroom.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I've always loved about the way, and this

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Speaker 1: and Caper's definitely blitz more in preseason than what then

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Speaker 1: what Petton did in this game, but with the when

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Speaker 1: it is getting vanilla, when there isn't a lot of scheme.

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Speaker 1: And I wrote about this an insider in box this weekend.

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Speaker 1: This is where it's on the player to make a play,

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Speaker 1: show your work, make a play, and make progress in

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Speaker 1: those apps. And Reggie Gilbert, you go back and look

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Speaker 1: at all three of these years that he's been in

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Speaker 1: he was shocked. He was blindsided when he found out

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Speaker 1: he didn't talked with his agents. And and i'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this right now, Mike, I remember I won't name names,

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Speaker 1: even though there was that disappointment that he didn't get

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Speaker 1: probably should have been elevated earlier with what he showed

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Speaker 1: motivates Reggie Gilbert. What motivates Reggie Gilbert is the idea

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Speaker 1: that you know what, I'm confident what I can do

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Speaker 1: as a football player, I want to show it. I

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Speaker 1: don't need any chips on my shoulder or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: I just want to play football and in this game,

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Speaker 1: and I know it ended up only being what two

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Speaker 1: in this contest, the guy affects the football game, and

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Speaker 1: I thought he did it again, and now he's putting

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Speaker 1: I think he's putting himself in position to do that.

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Speaker 1: the decisions the Packers made was they thought, Okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: bring Reggie Gilbert back on the practice squad, will sign

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Speaker 1: a Mod Brooks, a veteran outside linebacker. That was the

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