1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. The Colin Cowherd Podcast brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fan Duel, whether the love basketball, golf, soccer, or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport. There is a contest for every fan Fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, Welcome in to 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: my Monday Night Tuesday Morning podcast with former NFL scout 7 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff. So, yeah, I was thinking about this when 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Seattle lost its NBA team. I blame the owner, Howard Schultz. 9 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: He's a billionaire. He bought the Sonics and he didn't 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: have the stomach for it. He never really fought, really 11 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: fought for any duration to keep the Sonics once they 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: clearly needed a new arena and did. I'd been to 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: KI Arena multiple times, a dozen times. Bad parking downtown 14 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: Seattle during the NBA season. The winter is dark, poorly lit, wet, damp. 15 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: They should have gone to the burbs, go to Kirkland, 16 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: goes somewhere better NBA arena. But Howard Schultz was cheap. 17 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: If you're gonna get into owning a team, then get 18 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: into it emotionally and fight for it. When the Chargers 19 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: left San Diego, I didn't necessarily bash Dean Spanos. He 20 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: has no intention of selling the team. He's owned the 21 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: team forever. He loves the team and he fought his 22 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: ass off to keep it in San Diego. But local 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: politicians are, how can I say this, mostly untalented hacks 24 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: and in Cleveland. This is why the Browns left because 25 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: the less popular baseball team got a new stadium and 26 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: the more popular football team playing in a dump did not, 27 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: so they left. In San Diego, Qualcom was falling apart. 28 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: They didn't have the same day revenue of the top 29 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: ten teams in the league. They didn't have enough suites. 30 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: It was hard to get in and out of I've 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: been to Qualcom fifty times in my life. The Padres 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: and Chargers both played there. But what do you know? 33 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: The Padres got a new baseball stadium and the more 34 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: popular NFL team had a site picked. The Spanos family 35 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: fought forever for it, and then it came down to 36 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: a vote, and the vote was a tourist tax, meaning 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: locals didn't really have to foot most of the bill. 38 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: It would be people like me who rent a car 39 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: and stay in a San Diego hotel every couple of 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: years Vegas has a big tourist tax thirty six percent. 41 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: If I recall, the local politicians didn't fight for it, 42 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: and it failed, and the Spanos family, who's not going 43 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: to sell the team, who loves the team, who's had 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: it forever, said okay, what are our options? LA came 45 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: knocking the fifth biggest economy in the world, a wildly 46 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: dynamic sport market, a pretty sweet deal with the Rams. 47 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: They would never get it again or stand San Diego, 48 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: cross your fingers that you can get a stadium. You 49 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: tell me what businessman would pass on that. They didn't 50 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: want to move the team anywhere else. But when your neighbor, 51 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: your wealthy neighbor two hour drive north, says here's a 52 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: sweet deal, come on up. And the reason I bring 53 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: this up because the Chargers now have now blown past 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: their season ticket average in San Diego the last twenty years. YEP. 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: It's officially now the fastest growing season ticket sale base 56 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: in the entire league. They're at ninety percent. Nobody wants 57 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: to mention this. You can never side with the owner. 58 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: But in the end, this is why they left. And 59 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: this tells you two things. One we knew LA has 60 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: two NFL teams, a baseball team that draws almost five 61 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: million usc UCLA, two NBA teams, a hockey team, and 62 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: on any given night they're all crushing. San Diego is 63 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: a sleepier town, ohays, one of the teams would be 64 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: filling it up, the other wouldn't it qualcom And when 65 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: local politicians blew it, there you go. It also indicates 66 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: how big of a star Justin Herbert is. I just 67 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: bought some season tickets to the Chargers. I have two 68 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: friends that have bought multiple season ticket to the Chargers, 69 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: and for the same reason. Justin Herbert and Patrick mahomes 70 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: in a home game every year. But Howard Schultz didn't 71 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: have the stomach to really own the Sonics. He didn't 72 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: fight for years and years in years go through the 73 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: ups and downs of owning a pro franchise. I blame 74 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: Howard Schultz for the Sonics leaving Seattle. But I'm a 75 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: business guy. You've followed my career. Somebody comes knocking offers 76 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: just significantly more, and the play Sarratt's fallen apart. What 77 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: are my options to die? Go? Ask any business man, 78 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: you have to adapt or die. And so I'm happy 79 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: for the Chargers and I'm not going to take the 80 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: wildly popular side of what about the common man? Well, 81 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: the problem the common man is represented by the common 82 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: local politicians and they mostly stink. Former NFL scout my 83 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: buddy John Mintelcoff three and Out podcast. He's a rockstar, 84 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about. I took a 85 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: four day siesta to Park City, which was amazing. All right, 86 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: let's start with this. Calvin Johnson didn't think the Lions. 87 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: I was okay with it. In his Hall of Fame speech, 88 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: if you've ever worked for a lousy company, I don't 89 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: think just because you've employed me at one point, I 90 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: have spent a lot of time given you kudos. I 91 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: also thought Peyton Manning saying he's not done with the game, 92 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: he wants to be part of the growth was cool. 93 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: And I also thought, John, you know, one of the things. 94 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: This sounds probably corny, but I think it's pretty remarkable 95 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning's arch rival, Tom Brady is a upplo 96 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: rose back. And I thought to myself, that is fantastic. 97 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: Not everybody has to hate everybody, Not everybody has to 98 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: be Michael Jordan and Isaiah Thomas. I loved it, and 99 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, my takeaway was all these things were really 100 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: emotional and fantastic. But I'm gonna take the I'm gonna 101 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: take Calvin Johnson's side, and I really love that Peyton 102 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: Manning is all in. I'm not going anywhere. I'm going 103 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: to be part of this league for a long time. 104 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: Just your thoughts over all the weekend. Yeah, I mean 105 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough, you know, working in football before 106 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: I got into doing this, and I've always believed that 107 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: the highest level people in that profession, college and pros 108 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: would be the highest level people in society. I mean 109 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: there's nothing. I mean, John Lynch, what could John Lynch 110 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: not have done if he hadn't made it in the NFL? Right, 111 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: Peyton's the same way. Now they had Hall of Fame careers. 112 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: But you've been around John Lynch, I mean it's they're 113 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: a higher level guy around, you know. I mean he 114 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: just smart, smart and adaptable. Yeah, and Peyton's just a 115 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: unique I've always believed this and been saying this for 116 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: a long time. I think that for the Internet age, 117 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: that Peyton and Tom were the magic and Larry of 118 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, a football taking it to another stratosphere. Now 119 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: where the analogy gets weird. Tom also morphed into Michael Jordan, 120 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: so he kind of played both roles. But Peyton is 121 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: a very unique personality. And you see the story, I 122 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: know you detached from social media. The Lions had offered 123 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson five hundred thousand dollars to become a part 124 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: of his organization. He said no, And I saw a 125 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of people on the internet making a big deal 126 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars. He's the second most famous player 127 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: in the history of the franchise. Like, this is the franchise. 128 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: They just got three hundred million dollars their media rights bill. 129 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Like if you want to get Calvin Johnson, who made HUT, 130 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: I think like one hundred and fifty million dollars in 131 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: his career, who has a thriving weed business. Now, like 132 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: you got to offer a little bit more than that. 133 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Like that's that to me, he's on the line. It's 134 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: just a low level franchise. It's it's really remarkable. I 135 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: was thinking about this. I talked about on the Three 136 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: and Out, like Peyton Lynch and Charles wood And are 137 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: good examples of three. I mean, Charles and Peyton are 138 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: all time talents. John had to be kind of put 139 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: in the right situation. But even Peyton Manning, whose viewed 140 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, a 141 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: lot of stuff was out of his control. Right. He 142 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: was lucky he got drafted to a team with a 143 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame general manager who already had Marvin Harrison. 144 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: The following year that GM passed on Ricky Williams, drafted 145 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: Edger and James, who also went into the Hall of Fame. 146 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: R Peyton really benefited a lot from Indie's structure. They 147 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: got Tony Dungee when he got fired, like he's an 148 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: all time grinder worker and controlling what he could control. 149 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: There's probably never Brady kind of copied Peyton the second 150 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: half of his career, but Peyton benefited a lot from 151 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: those people. Same with Charles, like he couldn't you know, 152 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders let him go. He ends up with Green 153 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: Bay thinking he's getting with far if it turns into Rogers, 154 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: they win the Super Bowl. He's the defensive player of 155 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: the Year. I thought it was just a great Sunday 156 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: night was pretty special. The lineup of guys that they 157 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: threw out their big night for the NFL. Yeah, and 158 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL has done something which is it's 159 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: so odd, obvious and easy. But you know a lot 160 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: of these sports can't get their calendars right, and the 161 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: NFL does it so well. So camp's open and you 162 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: give a little taste of it. Oh, camp's open, and 163 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: then the Hall of Fame weekend sucks us in emotionally. 164 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: Then we go to preseason stories, then this season, and 165 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: then when the season ends, you get about three weeks 166 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: and then the free agent rumors start, then the free 167 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: agent signing combine and the draft, and like a lot 168 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: of these sports, they can't figure out the easy shit, 169 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: and the NFL just really basically, the NFL just takes 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: two weeks of June and July off. They give you 171 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: about six weeks off. And sometimes you'll see these Baseball 172 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: they'll give the awards out, the season's over. NBA, You're like, 173 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: the stories over, We've moved on. Like I've been saying 174 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: this forever with baseball, John is that if baseball cut 175 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: out forty games, which is twenty an owner. Okay, you 176 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: look at the new TV deals, you'd get fuller stadiums. 177 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: You start the season three weeks later, you don't get 178 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: the rain and the gloom. I mean if you open. 179 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: They always say when you're write a column, don't bury 180 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: the lead. Make the lead great. Baseball starts every season 181 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: with rainouts. It just starts clunkily, and then at the 182 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: end of the season, you're going head to head with 183 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: college in pro football. If baseball, no chance. If baseball 184 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: started May fifteenth ended August fifteenth, playoffs are done, and 185 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: you start the playoffs, John, you get people that emotionally, 186 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: you suck me in the Dodgers now we're in the NLCS. 187 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: I'll choose that over a crappy NFL game. I agree. 188 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: But if you start your playoffs and I'm already in football, 189 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: even if I like the baseball got it, the NFL 190 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: just is got me. Can you imagine right now, for example, 191 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: the Giants and Dodgers might play in the first round 192 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: of the playoffs this year, if that was happening in 193 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: two weeks and we got that for a couple of 194 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: weeks before the NFL season. Instead, we're gonna get it 195 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: August first, forty nine ers could be four and one 196 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: play in the Rams. No one's gonna you know, it's 197 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: not gonna be the same. I'm someone in my mid 198 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: thirties and I love baseball, but it's hard in October 199 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: it's special time, but I can't football. Trump's it's not 200 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: even close. That's what people care about. I'm with you 201 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: in basketball struggles, you know, trying to get their calendar right. 202 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: Football just is lucky with the way society is. Right, 203 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: they play once a week. There's urgency in every game. 204 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: Every game, there's a build up to the game. Right, 205 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: Baseball you just go for four, you play the next day? Right? Right, 206 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: basketball you score ten points, will you get to play 207 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: in two days? Right? You play three four times a week. 208 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: Football is pretty lucky that the setup, the way society 209 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: has just transitioned to urgent, no patience. There's a lot 210 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: of benefits to the way the sport works well, and 211 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: also the elevation of gambling, which is another visceral connection. 212 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: By the way, it's why Adams Silver the minute the 213 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: Supreme Court passed the right to gamble on sports, Adam 214 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: Silver said very interested. He's not, but young people discretionary income, 215 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: like like Europe is so far ahead of us. You 216 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: can bet, and you can bet during an EPL game 217 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: in stadium. It's fine, right, Like we're going to be 218 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: there in the next five ten years. I mean, that's 219 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: where we are. 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Gaming problem called one eight hundred five 238 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: two two forty seven hundred in Colorado, one eight hundred 239 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: nine with it in Indiana, and one eight hundred Gambler 240 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: in Jersey. All right, let's talk Niners. Last time we 241 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: talked to you, you were going to Niners camp. You 242 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: had not been there yet. You live in the Bay Area. 243 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: A lot of stories out there about Trey and Lance. Again, 244 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: it's preseason. Everybody's everybody's Tom Brady in preseason. But what 245 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: did your eyes tell you? Yeah? I mean, he's just 246 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: a remarkable physical talent. You know, he's We've talked about 247 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: this before. But when the pads are on and you 248 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: see Brandon Aiyuk and George Kittle, and what Kyle's doing 249 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: while he runs with the twos, he doesn't run with 250 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: the twos when it comes to skill guys. He rotates 251 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: those guys in. So Brandon and I You, George Kittle, 252 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, those guys play with Trey Lance, And in 253 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: my experience, there is a distinct difference between the ones 254 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: and the twos. So if we went to Tom Brady 255 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin run with 256 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. When Kyle Trask or blame Garret whoever their 257 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: backup quarterback is. There's a new group of guys, and 258 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: that's how every team doesn't like Patrick Mahomes gets Tyree 259 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: Hill and Kelsey the backup Chad Henny doesn't well with 260 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. They're both rotating with the groups. You look 261 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: up and you go, oh, that's a bomb from Trey 262 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: Lance to George Kittle. So it's he's manipulating the situation 263 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: a little bit because this young guy deserves it. He 264 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: is physically in a different universe than Jimmy. Now, there's 265 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: no pass rush right because the guys have to stop, 266 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: so you're not seeing him ever get hit. They run 267 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: the ball out with Trey and he's running all over 268 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: the place, but he can't get tackled. So there's some 269 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: unknown which we will see in the games. But he 270 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: he looks pretty poised and pretty talented, and it's not 271 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: like Jimmy is some immense talent, right, So it's I 272 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: don't think it's out of the realm for him to 273 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: beat him out by week one in them to nate 274 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, now, it's got to go well. In these 275 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: preseason games. They also Colin they have joint practices this 276 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: week next week with his chargers down in LA. So 277 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna get several practices every day against Derwin James, 278 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: against the Bossa Kenneth, all these guys, right, And what's 279 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: Kyle gonna do with Brandon Staley. They're gonna manipulate the setup. Hey, hey, Brandon, 280 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: when Trey comes in, give him all these different looks. Well, 281 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: what if Trey starts handling it. I saw Kyle tell 282 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Albert Brewer, who I was at practice with the other day, 283 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: that you never know, right. We threw a bunch of 284 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: stuff at Trey and we didn't expect him to. A 285 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: lot was happening in OTAs and even Trey was like, 286 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't even compete. I'm just trying to 287 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: learn it. Well, forty days off, now he comes back, 288 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: kid knows it in an offense that is historically hard 289 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: to learn, right, can be a struggle for Rogers that 290 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: first year. Matt Ryan, It's take a minute, and he 291 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: looks very comfortable and he's just physically again in a 292 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: different stratosphere than Garoppolo definitely when it comes to running. 293 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: But even he's got a bigger arm, yeah, you know, 294 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: and it's one of these things where I don't think 295 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: they have a lot of holes in their roster. You 296 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: know their roster better than I do. I don't think 297 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: they're great at corner. I think they're pretty Yeah, not 298 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: many really, you know you could probably. I mean, listen, 299 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: let's take the Colts off the Jimmy Garoppolo list. They're 300 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: not going to pay for another injury prone, expensive quarterback. 301 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Let's take them off. Listen. You read stories out of 302 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Houston Deshaun Watson, I mean Houston. If Deshaun Watson doesn't 303 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: suit up, you're looking at it sixteen seventeen team. So 304 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if if I said, give me a list 305 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: of two or three teams where you think may call 306 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, Houston jumps out to me. I 307 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: think the Giants will give Daniel Jones. The Dolphins will 308 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: give to a till Thanksgiving before they make a decision 309 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: in the house. I'm trying to think of somebody else 310 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: that would be desperate. Anybody that jumps out to you, 311 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: I think making twenty five million dollars, no one one. 312 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: People don't have the cap space. Jimmy would have to 313 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: take a pay reduction. I also think the Niners have 314 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: so much on the line this year that their teams 315 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: so good that even would if Trey were to roll 316 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: an ankle, like, what's an extra? You know the ideally, 317 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: if Jimmy doesn't start, you'd want him to take a 318 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: big pay cut. But to the forty nine ers, they're 319 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: closer to the Cowboys the most NFL teams, they have 320 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: an unlimited amount of who cares stack the deck? Just 321 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: keep Jimmy around. What's Jimmy gonna do? Be a bad guy? 322 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: He's still a young player. He doesn't want like you to, 323 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, tell the league what a bad guy is. 324 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: He's going to act the right way. He's been on 325 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: the other side of that. To me, you just go 326 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: into the go into the season with you know, a 327 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: quarterback room you feel pretty good about. You have a 328 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: star young player. If he beats him out and if not, 329 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: if you have to shift mid season. I don't know 330 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: if there's a huge market for him. Like you said, 331 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: he's an injury prone guy that makes a lot of 332 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: money now his contract. Even if he wouldn't take a 333 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: pay cut, you can cut him every year. You don't 334 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: the pay them. There's no guaranteed money left. But I 335 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: think his value to the Niners right now is more 336 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: than if you're the Texans, why don't you want to 337 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: be terrible? Like? Why aren't they just kind of tanking? Right? 338 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: Who the Colts? Like you said, they're just they're paying 339 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: so much money to Carson they don't have. You can't 340 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: bring in Jimmy for twenty five plus million. That doesn't 341 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: make any sense. I think he's just stuck on the 342 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: Niners this year, and I actually think that's the right 343 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: thing for the Niners to do, just because they, I mean, 344 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: Kyle's needs to make the playoffs this year, right, He's 345 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: really he's had the one great season. But I think 346 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: him and mcveighan compared a lot. Yeah, they both made 347 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. The difference is Seawan's made the playoffs 348 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: a couple other times. You know, Kyle's drafted pretty high 349 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: those other three years. So the Chargers and the NFL 350 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: have jointly announced they have blown through their previous twenty 351 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: years of season ticket sales. They average forty five forty 352 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: six thousand a year in San Diego. They've blown through it. 353 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: They have the fastest growing season ticket base in America 354 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're at ninety percent. I bought them. 355 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: Two friends boughtom. And I said two things. One justin 356 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: Herbert's rock Star, That's why I bought them, and Patrick 357 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: mahomes once a year, that's a good ticket. And I 358 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: said the second thing is is everybody always blames the owner. 359 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: When the Spanos family left, everybody crushed him. But Qualcom 360 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: was increasingly a dump. Like Cleveland. The baseball team Less 361 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: Popular got a stadium and La said, you want to 362 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: come up here, and the Spano's family is like, if 363 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: we don't take this, we'll never get offered La again. 364 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: It's only two miles up the road, two mile two 365 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: hour drive up the road, and our stadium's falling apart, 366 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: and our local politicians won't give us a new stadium. 367 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: So I was never like anti Spanos. And I know Dean, 368 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: I met him a couple of times, and it's not 369 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: like my opinion here is going to change my relationship 370 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: good or bad. But I look at I look at 371 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: the Charger situation today, John, and I think to myself, 372 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: they were right. They really. I know everybody hates to 373 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: say it, but Qualcom was a dump at the end, 374 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: and they had a spot picked out and it failed 375 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: to vote. Yeah. I mean it was very challenging thing 376 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: to get done in the state of California to build 377 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: an independent stadium that is not disputable. It took you know, Crokey, 378 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: what's he in now? Six billion, and they thought it 379 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: was gonna be like two and a half, and he 380 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: has unlimited wealth and any other any other super rich guy. 381 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: It would have got ugly, right, it would have been tight. 382 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: But six billion to him is you know, he can 383 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: handle it. I do think they had something pretty special 384 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: in San Diego. They had the area of themselves. I 385 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: think they had San Diego is an underrated sports town. 386 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: You see what the Padre games places rocking and rolling. Now, 387 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: it would have been difficult. He doesn't have the funds 388 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: that some of these other mega owners doesn't. He can 389 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of you know, what's his rent a dollar? There's 390 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: an element of luck here though, Colin. I mean, they 391 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: got this generational player, right, the kind of fell into 392 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: their laps. Is there a general manager in the league 393 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: right now? They would take two o over Herbert, not 394 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: a soul, right, Brian Flores would drive to a right now, 395 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: to to La to trade him for Justin Herbert. So 396 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: that fell into their life and he's been awesome, and 397 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: if he does what we think he's gonna do, I'm 398 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: with you if if he's a great player, But are 399 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: they ever going to be a big deal in LA 400 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, well let me throw this at yet. 401 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: If you want to blame somebody, I said this when 402 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: it happened, the NFL would have stepped up and saved 403 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: the Eagles from leaving Philadelphia or the Giants from leaving 404 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: New York. They would have yeah, okay, and they and 405 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: they didn't. In San Diego, they could have given them 406 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: a billion dollars one percent loan, and they didn't. And 407 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: so my takeaway is, if you want to hand out blame, 408 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: oh give Spanos, give them. But you know that the 409 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: NFL would never let the Packers, the Cowboys, the Eagles, 410 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: the Giants, the Niners, the Bears ever let them out. 411 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: And I do think the NFL sort of looks at 412 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: this John, and I think commissioners look at this Oakland too, right. 413 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: They wanted him at Oakland for sure. Is that the 414 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: NFL and the NBA and baseball sometimes they're only going 415 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: to fight for about a third of the league. The 416 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: rest of it is a bunch of owners saying, well, 417 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: we got an eight hundred million dollar expansion fee. If 418 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: Jacksonville can't handle it, if San Diego can't handle it, 419 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: if the A's can't handle it, We're not talking the 420 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Tigers leaving Detroit. We're not talking in the Red Sox 421 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: leaving Boston. So the San Diego thing I kind of 422 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: look at it is if you're not one of these 423 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: like tier one, tier two teams in any sport, then 424 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: the owners they're looking for the expansion fee. Yeah, I 425 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: mean well, I mean Vegas is going to be a 426 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: huge success, right, and all the all four teams, you know, Baseball, basketball, football, 427 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: and the NHL and and football are already there. The 428 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: A's are gonna end up there, and a basketball team's 429 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna end up there, right. They just they should have 430 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: all four major teams and they're gonna get it. If 431 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: I was Dean, now, LA might work out very lucrative 432 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: to him. But Mark Davis and just the Raiders, whoever 433 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: owns the Raiders after him, we'll just have their own stadium. 434 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: Dean will always split that thing, not even split it, right, 435 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: He'll just be a tenant for the owner. Now, like 436 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: you said, football, it's so big. If his quarterback turns 437 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: into Mahomes junior, he's gonna be a really big deal. 438 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: I just don't know. You feel like the Chargers are 439 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: really going to resonate in the town, like the brand, 440 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: not the player, but the brand. Here's the way I 441 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: look at Los Angeles. The real loser in Los Angeles 442 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: is USC and UCLA football. So when Pete Carroll was here, 443 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: the Clippers were a joke and there were no NFL teams. 444 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: There wasn't LAFC. The city's changed. That's why you can't 445 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: have Clay Hilton. You need somebody with a presence. The 446 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: loser in this town is the college teams. John. This 447 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: is becoming New York. There's too many options. Nobody cares 448 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: about Saint John's basketball. I mean, if USC, unless they 449 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: go out and get a big dog like like even 450 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: if you don't like him, horrorball, they go to Chris 451 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: Peterson and bring him out of retirement, and you can 452 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: compete for a national title two out of three years. 453 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: That's the loser in this market. I think I think 454 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers if Herbert is as good as you and 455 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: I think, and I put him in that, I think 456 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: he's as good as mahomes bigger, stronger, I mean he's 457 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: a bigger never been hurt. I think if he becomes that, 458 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: I think La is a city of transience, John, they 459 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: don't care like is that kind of the West Coast. 460 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we're just we're more pro centric now that 461 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: you're a north West guy. The Seahawks are enormous now, 462 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: they weren't that big fifteen twenty thirty years. No, how 463 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: is you dub ever going to compete against them? As 464 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: long as they have Russell, they can are just no chance. 465 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: The Niners. Stanford was a top five program for five 466 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: straight years of David Show. Nobody cared, not a soul, 467 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: especially once Harbaugh went to the Niners. They have no 468 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: cow's been good historically with Jeff Tedford. It's hard for 469 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: them to just compete with the local teams. I think 470 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: it's more of a you're right, a cultural thing on 471 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: the West Coast. The moment pro teams are good, that's 472 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: all anyone cares about. Yeah, I mean the reality the 473 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: Angels years ago, the rally Hats wildly popular, rally Monkey. Yeah, 474 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: now they have Otani and Mike Trout and nobody can. 475 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: The bottom line is because the Dodgers are great. The 476 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: Dodgers have stars, The Dodgers win, and they frankly, it's 477 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: a big boy baseball team. I mean they go out 478 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: and get Max Schures are at the deadline. They're cool. 479 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: They're cool. Yeah, they're cool. So I don't think LA's 480 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, and I say this as a person that's 481 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: only lived here for five six years, I don't think. 482 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the Dodgers and the Lakers will always be popular, 483 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: but hell man, there was no LAFC. You can't get 484 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: a ticket to those games. Now. LA is about what 485 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: is winning. Now, people here, this isn't Philadelphia. You know 486 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: it's my dad. My loyalty is not the same, for sure. 487 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: It's like that northern California. I think, just think it's 488 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: a West Coast thing. You're just not as loyal. You just, 489 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, what's kind of cool. You got like you've 490 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: always said, you got options. You know, they're just you're 491 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: not stuck inside for six months a year I lived 492 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: in Philly. Those people wouldn't change their allegiance if you 493 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: paid them, you know, a year's salary the rest of 494 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: their life. Right, they're going down with the birds, but 495 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers get cool and you're a Rams guy, 496 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: you maybe you just will start rooting for the Chargers. 497 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: All right, tell me, is there you know we've got 498 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: camp news every other day, there's something that jumps out. 499 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: Is there a story to you that's underreported or story 500 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: or interest today? Yea, I got something. They had. The 501 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: Jets had a you know, a scrimmage you know thing 502 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: at MetLife on Saturday, and Zach Wilson was terrible and 503 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: seeing and listen, the media and the fan and the 504 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: fans are just going to react to the media and 505 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: the mock drafts. So when a guy gets drafted too 506 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: high or too low, their anger is based on what 507 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: they've read or what they've seen, and maybe some of 508 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: these really famous guys they've watched them play. But we 509 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: got to the point last year going in like Brian 510 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: Flores and Chris Grew with the Dolphins. Whether everyone loved 511 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: the too A pick or not, it doesn't matter. It's 512 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: their job to get it right. That's their only job 513 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: is to pick the right player, not who's going to 514 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: give them the best bass draft grades or not. The 515 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: Jets just it felt like just locked into Zach Wilson 516 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: from right after the season they did. Listen, I'm out 517 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: there with Trey Lance. Listen. I didn't know that much 518 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: about him, Like most people in North Dakota State, I've 519 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: never seen him play. But by the time the draft 520 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: process happens, you get to go meet him and see him. 521 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: And how could you walk around this guy, or even 522 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: watching justin Fields at some Bears practice and just be like, 523 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: we have to take It'd be one thing if he 524 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: was coming from Alabama, right Zach Wilson, he was at 525 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: BYU in a Corona year where they weren't playing anyone. 526 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'm not trying to like write 527 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: his career resume right now, but he's not as physically 528 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: talented as Trey Lanz Fields. And to just think now, 529 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe the Niners would have taken 530 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson over Trey Lance. I don't know. I don't 531 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: have that information right now. I'm sure we're going to 532 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: find out as years come. If one of them doesn't 533 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: turn out to be very good, that seems kind of crazy. 534 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: That's something just to keep an eye on because I 535 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: know this that guy with Kyle's more than likely going 536 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: to be pretty good, and Zach Wilson turnover in New York, 537 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: the pressure New York guy, a lifetime Utah guy going out. 538 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: They're huge, jump up a lot going on. The Jets 539 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: have a first time coordinator, a first time head coach. 540 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: Someone told me this because one thing Zach Wilson has 541 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: like some cockiness and some people that turns people off. 542 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: But Joe Douglas is a Baltimore Raven guy, and they 543 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 1: kind of like that, right. They had been around Ray 544 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: Lewis and Ed Read. They kind of eat that up. 545 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: And someone I was like, he's really gonna like Zach Wilson. 546 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, they're gonna like he's gonna like kind 547 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: of his arrogance and just when he walks in the room, 548 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: he thinks he belongs. But you also have to have 549 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: the talent to go around with that. I'm not saying 550 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: he's not talented, but no way, he is physically gifted 551 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: as the Bears and the Niners. Guy, he's just not 552 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: so and that market man and you know you've lived 553 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: in the Northeast, it is intense, so better dial. This 554 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: could be a long season. They just might not be 555 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: that talented this year, right, So can can you battle 556 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: through the adversity. I don't know. Well, it's not a 557 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: good ownership group. With the Jets. You also have arguably 558 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: the best defensive coach in league history in Belichick, the 559 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: best young defensive coach in Sean McDermott, the second best 560 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: young defensive coach, and Brian Floris. So so I've said 561 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: this for there's nobody, including Tom Bradier in Montana, when 562 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: you talk about the great quarterbacks, there's nobody that had 563 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: a shitty coach. I got nothing against Robert Sala, but 564 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: there is no way for the next two years he 565 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: is not the fourth best coach in that division. That's 566 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: what he is with the worst supporting roster Zach Wilson has. 567 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: So I think I've said this every year there's a kid, 568 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: and I have my doubts. I don't think the Zach 569 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: Wilson thing is gonna work. I don't. Yeah, I think 570 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be very, very difficult. I really do. 571 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: And again it's just social media clips. It sure looks 572 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: like Sam, Like could they have just roll with Sam 573 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: and traded that for a bounty and got a bunch 574 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: of stuff and kind of built up their team fast 575 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: and they had a guy like what are the chances 576 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: that Zach Wilson is more talented than Sam Donold. Well, 577 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: he's not as big, he's not as strong, And there 578 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: were guys reports in the building that I think some 579 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: of the coaches were like, let's just take this guy 580 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: in trade. But the GM and the new head coach 581 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: always want their young guy buys you a little more time. 582 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: But that's just one of those situations. Colin. It feels 583 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: like some to monitor that, That's all I'm gonna say. 584 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: Some to monitor. I want to go to the Lamar 585 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Jackson appearing apparently hasn't been vaccinated, had COVID a couple 586 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: of times, Kirk Cousins last week's story not been vaccinated. 587 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: You know the media and I think you know. I mean, 588 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: I've said this about our business before. People report on 589 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: plane crashes, not on plane landings, so we report, you know, innately, 590 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: intrinsically on bad stuff. But lost in all of this 591 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: is the NFL players are ninety percent vaccinated. John, if 592 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: you went to the research triangle, which is in the 593 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Carolina's elite hospitals universities, I don't believe they have ninety 594 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: percent vaccination. Like I think we're we're losing sight of 595 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: the fact that the NFL nine out of ten dudes 596 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: put the needle in the arm. It's incredible. Yeah, there's 597 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of high profile I got into 598 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: this discussion with my wife, like, I'm a dad, I'm 599 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: in my fifties, I'm going to vaccinate soul Is. My 600 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: wife and I have kids, so why I wanted them vaccinated? 601 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: But I you talked about this, like, I get Lamar thinking, 602 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: come on, man, I'm the fastest guy in the league. 603 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: I had at once. I was tired for a week. 604 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to give Lamar and Kirk Cousins a pass, 605 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: but I do think sometimes we have to acknowledge NFL 606 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: is getting this ship right, like overwhelmingly right. Why. I 607 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: think the one thing the NFL has set up different 608 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: from the other sports is the players look up to coaches, right. 609 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the hierarchy of kind of the sport, 610 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: and the coaches and the general managers have been pleading 611 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: with these guys to do it. And you know, essentially, 612 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: as a coach you're kind of in the trenches with 613 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: the players. You're not actually on the field, but the 614 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: amount of time you guys spend again. It's a very 615 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: unique setup, you know, for any private sector business in America. Right, 616 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: the amount of time those two guys spent, and they're 617 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: pleading with these guys to do it. It's why you 618 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: haven't seen that many coaches not get it, right, the 619 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: coaches because obviously if they didn't get it, they were 620 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: not going to be able to work. So they all 621 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: had to get it. And then they've pleaded with their 622 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: players because ultimately they want to win. And a lot 623 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: of players who, like I said, most of my friends 624 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: are in their mid to early thirties, he's probably fifty 625 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: fifty with some of them. And some of them have 626 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: had to get it as industries got back, but a 627 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: lot of them have got it, and they said it 628 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: didn't FaZe them. If Lamar Jackson at this point, it's 629 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: not going to get it. He's telling you like, yeah, 630 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: I had Corona. It didn't do much to me, right, 631 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: because why if you had it, it was really bad. 632 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: And they're telling you, well, the vaccine will make you 633 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: not feel like that. Why wouldn't he get it? So 634 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: it's like the guys had it multiple times and the 635 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: cousins thing religion, who knows to me, though, the big 636 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: issue is the quarterback. It would be a problem, like 637 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: if Lamar test positive. That's to me is like the 638 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: positive and the protocols. You can't get out of the protocols. 639 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: And then if the Ravens don't have Lamar Jackson for 640 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: a game, they're gonna lose. The Kirk Cousins is listen, 641 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: I know we all used to beat him up for 642 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: a long time. Turned into a pretty good player. I 643 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: think he threw thirty five touchdowns last year. They don't 644 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: have Kirk Cousins, They're not gonna win. That to me 645 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: is why the coaches are so nervous. Not they're not 646 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: worried about their health, right because they've already a lot 647 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: of these guys have had it and they're fine. They're 648 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: worried about their ability to win on Sunday if that 649 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: guy's tests positive. And what could be a big deal 650 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: is it's been reported on the forfeiting of games, the 651 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: no pay if something like that happens. You talk about 652 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: an explosive story. Colin. If because all these guys now 653 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: are vaccinated, I would put yourself in those situations, Mice, 654 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: we'd be pissed off, right, Well, yeah, and Kirk Cousins 655 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: is interesting because his dad is the pastor of a 656 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: megachurch and if you look at statistically in America who's 657 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: not getting the vaccine is Evangelical Christians are way up 658 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: at the top of the list. And again I'm not 659 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: giving kirk Cousins a lamar a pass. I think you 660 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: have an adult responsibility, almost like a dad to a family, 661 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: not screw things up for your team. But I do 662 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: think sometimes but at this point, at this point, all 663 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: your teammates have it, you know, at this point, all 664 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: the teammates have it, Like what is their excuse? But 665 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: I've been in this media game for thirty years and 666 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: there are times that I'm like, media, I mean, you 667 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: gotta occasionally give me the glass half full. I mean 668 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: so much, you know, you know, And I want to 669 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: segue to something else that's non football. I was talking 670 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: to a group of people a couple days ago about 671 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: the Olympics and the ratings are terrible, you know, And 672 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: in America today, everybody jumps on, well, it's politics, and 673 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's a lot of things. The Olympics 674 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: have always been cost prohibitive for a network, and they've 675 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: lost money many times. If you go back to nineteen 676 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: seventy six, the Olympics in Montreal, We're a disaster. There 677 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: was some strong consideration to get rid of the Olympics. 678 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: Then Jimmy Carter postponed the eighty Olympics were in Moscow 679 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: and we wouldn't allow our American athletes to compete. I mean, 680 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: the Olympics have almost died multiple times. And then there 681 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 1: were a couple of robust Olympics. Part of the Olympics 682 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: is the aesthetics. Barcelona, Sydney, Australia did remarkably well. Not 683 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 1: because the stories were necessarily better than average Olympic years. 684 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: It was so beautiful when you turned on your television. 685 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: A big part of these Olympics was there was nobody 686 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: in the arenas. It was brutal. It's like watching a 687 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: small college where's parents and family there. So the aesthetics 688 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: were awful. And that's my number one takeaway, and my 689 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: second takeaway is I don't think NBC did themselves a 690 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: big favor demanding in many instances, you sign up for Peacock, 691 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: their new streaming service, and know a lot of I 692 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: had two buddies that were like I'm out, like I 693 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: got enough. I've signed up for everything. I got Hulu, 694 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: I got this. I'm not signing up. So let me 695 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: just ask you off of football for a few minutes. 696 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: Did you watch the Olympics? Did your friends watch the Olympics? Yeah? 697 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: I actually had a couple of friends over and we 698 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: ended up going out to dinner and just TV was on, 699 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I think it was gymnastics was on TV. 700 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: And both these guys were Division one fletes. I mean 701 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: they watched baseball, basketball, big football guys. One of them's like, 702 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, I haven't watched a minute and we're watching it, 703 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: and the other guys like, it's terrible without the fans. 704 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: That that is a huge impact. It is a terrible 705 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: product without the fans. I also think twenty twenty, in 706 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I guess this twenty one. When I was 707 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: a kid, the Olympics were a really big deal. I 708 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: remember in nineteen ninety six when Michael Johnson was just 709 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: a rock star, and obviously you're older than me, some 710 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: of the other guys in the in the eighty I mean, 711 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: they were a really big deal. Carl Lewis, Yeah, sometimes 712 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: don't just some things just lose their luster. I mean, 713 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: once upon a time, Ken Griffey Junior was the baseball athletes, 714 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: when my youth were bigger than ever there. I mean, 715 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: most people couldn't point Fernando Tattoos out of the lineup. 716 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: Now things change, right, I just think things change. Even 717 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: if the fans were there, maybe the ratings would be 718 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: a little bit better. But I don't know if the 719 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: Olympics will ever be the same. I really don't. We 720 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: just too many options, Colin, No, this is a this 721 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: is something my bang that I said. They've been slowly 722 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: less interesting for years. My big takeaway in the Olympics 723 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: was zo was in the sixties and seventies and eighties, 724 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: guys like you and I got three straight weeks of 725 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: TV on all day that our mom and our dad 726 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: like two. My mom didn't like sports, but she liked 727 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: the pageantry, the European teams. Now everything's on every channel, 728 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: So now I'm just left with curling and track and 729 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: field and should I don't care about not that I 730 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: don't think the athletes are remarkable, but the uniqueness of 731 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: three weeks of NonStop sports on TV. Once you lose that, 732 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: you're left with people. If you look at the ratings, 733 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: older people who are really into it for the pageantry 734 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: more than the points. And yeah, for sure, all right, 735 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: great stuff, John Middlecoff, Frank Reich colts coach coming up 736 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: this week. It's great to be back. I hope you 737 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: missed me. I missed you mostly at The Volume Sports, Twitter, 738 00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: and Instagram, Rate, review and subscribe. Mm hm The Volume