WEBVTT - Stephen A's Take:  Stephen A discusses coaching options for the Knicks and breaks down great New York point guards of all-time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get started in the NBA and a story that

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<v Speaker 1>made headlines throughout the league yesterday the firing of Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Thibodeaux by the New York Knicks. The move came just

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<v Speaker 1>a few days after the Knicks made their deepest playoff

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<v Speaker 1>run in twenty five years. Tibbs, who led the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>to back to back fifty win seasons for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time since nineteen ninety five, leaves ranking fourth all time

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<v Speaker 1>on a franchise list and coaching victories. Now, the focus

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<v Speaker 1>shifts to potential head coaching replacements to lead the team

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<v Speaker 1>currently built around Jalen Brunson and call Anthony Towns. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me say this before I get into it, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you this. There are a bunch of names

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<v Speaker 1>that need to come up. In a few seconds. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you about five. I'm gonna give you about

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<v Speaker 1>five because you need to know, you need to know,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to hear the people that saw on my

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<v Speaker 1>list are right. And I got some honorable mentions as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll explain why because I'm going all down the line, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going all down the line. Just to tip off

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<v Speaker 1>my producers are Sam Cassell email, you don't I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk about coaches of the contract, mind you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the tie Lows of the world, and the Mike Maloons

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody else. Rick Brunton's evens, all of them. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming with a second, but let me say before I

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<v Speaker 1>even get into it, let me play a clip for

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<v Speaker 1>you that was very, very interesting doing my day job

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<v Speaker 1>on First Take number one morning show for the last

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen years in counting. Thanks to y'all. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Continue to support your brother. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna first Take this morning on ESPN. Well, my

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<v Speaker 1>man Jay Williams, and I can't take credit for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta give him credit for this, because my man

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Williams came out with an idea that absolutely positively

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<v Speaker 1>blew me away because.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think about it. Why would I think about it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know why, but I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute, but not before I play this clip

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<v Speaker 1>with me and Jay Williams talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Check this out.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't win in twenty twenty five playing nineteen nineties basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to change up your style.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do think there is a coach out there

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<v Speaker 3>that is currently coaching the Houston Rockets that will be

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<v Speaker 3>the most amazing fit in New York City, and that's Amyiudoka,

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that understands Boston Celtics and how they built

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<v Speaker 3>with Brad Stevens and Danny Ainge and what their personnel

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<v Speaker 3>looks like. Has an understanding of that and has a

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<v Speaker 3>similar but updated culture in Houston with some young dogs

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<v Speaker 3>where he's built a pretty incredible foundation over a quick

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<v Speaker 3>period of time, and understanding how the Western Conference is loaded,

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<v Speaker 3>and look, the Knicks have money to spend. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Imudoka is the choice. I think he's the person you

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<v Speaker 3>run towards, and I think you find any way to

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<v Speaker 3>pry him away from the Houston Rockets organization and bring

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<v Speaker 3>him to the New York Knicks, because I think he

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<v Speaker 3>epitomizes who the New York Knicks are as a franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what you didn't see there was to me going

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think of that. It's a great idea. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's why I didn't think about that. I know a

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<v Speaker 1>few people in Houston, including owner Tilament for Tita, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling y'all, ain't no way in hell New York

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks getting email U Doka Forget htown being h town

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<v Speaker 1>because it's pretty fly. Forget it being in the state

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<v Speaker 1>when no state didn't come taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool too.

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<v Speaker 1>Email U Doka is under contract for the next two years.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't leave unless tilerm and for Tita granted him

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<v Speaker 1>the freedom to do so. And I'm here to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that shit ain't happening. Ain't happening, email U Doka

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<v Speaker 1>ain't going nowhere if Tilaman and Fetida has anything to

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<v Speaker 1>say about it. He loves that man, His staff loves

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<v Speaker 1>that man. His employees love that man. Email you, Doka.

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<v Speaker 1>Just they't Bosston.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you're sat.

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<v Speaker 1>There and railroaded him out of town. And I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bring up why. All I'm gonna say is that damnit,

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<v Speaker 1>he won the first and he ain't the last. But

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<v Speaker 1>somehow his personal business, which could have been an HR issue,

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<v Speaker 1>became public consumption.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't gonna get in effected as a hope, but

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<v Speaker 2>to white boys.

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<v Speaker 1>That were guilty of such proclivities for decades, and we

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<v Speaker 1>ain't hear nothing. I know at least three dudes that

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<v Speaker 1>lost their job in the last couple of years, all white,

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<v Speaker 1>and landed.

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<v Speaker 2>On another NBA team nobody said.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing we knew, we ain't reported because the team didn't confer,

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<v Speaker 1>because the team didn't want it out there like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They let the people go on about their business.

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<v Speaker 1>But email Udoka, they threw under the bus and tried

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<v Speaker 1>to ruin his career and tell me Fatida and the

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<v Speaker 1>Houston Rockets said, damn that we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to win. It's one of the greatest.

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<v Speaker 1>Coaches of the game, easily top five coaching basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>That brother special, a hell of a coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would have coached Boston in a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>But that ended up being joy Missoula.

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<v Speaker 1>That email Udoka, Oh my lord, everything I said about

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks yesterday that raked my damn nerves, even their

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<v Speaker 1>weak ass statement.

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<v Speaker 2>By president Leon Rose. I would have forgave that. If

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<v Speaker 2>they came and.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, yo, man email Udoka is the head coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Knicks, all would have been forgiven. All

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<v Speaker 1>would have been forgiven because that man, not Leon Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>Email Eudoka is a hell of a coach, and that

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<v Speaker 1>brother right there, if they could get him, fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's got two years left on his deal in Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>And I called the source within an organization five minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said you couldn't pay us enough. He ain't

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<v Speaker 1>going nowhere. I know it's a double negative. He ain't

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<v Speaker 1>going nowhere, but he ain't gone nowhere. Grammatically and correct

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<v Speaker 1>and all. He ain't gone nowhere. He may you don't

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<v Speaker 1>can stayd in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me give you a list of names you

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<v Speaker 2>might want to consider.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to throw out Sam Cossel, assistant coach with

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<v Speaker 1>the Boston Celtics, because he should be a head coach

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<v Speaker 1>in this game, and he deserves an honorable mention. It

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<v Speaker 1>just may not necessarily need to be in New York

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<v Speaker 1>because you know he was in Boston last year. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even want to contaminate us, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's Boston's New York. I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sam Conceptius does to be a head coach in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA, so he gotta throw his name for consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna throw out these names for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw out Jay Wright, former head coach at

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<v Speaker 1>Villanova to Tom National champion, four trips to the Final four.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna say why. Jalen Brunston is the start of

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<v Speaker 2>the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Hart and Michel Bridges are on the team for

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<v Speaker 1>the foreseeable future.

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<v Speaker 2>They ain't going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And on top of it all, not only are they

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<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere, even though Michael Bridges might end up

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<v Speaker 1>being moved because he'll be looking for a contract extension

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<v Speaker 1>in the year, the bottom line is all three played

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<v Speaker 1>at Villanova. Jay Wright is a consideration. I'm gonna throw

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<v Speaker 1>out another name for you. Rick Brunson, Jalen Brunton's daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been on the bench last couple of leagues, that's

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<v Speaker 1>two three years, who I can tell you knows his basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>You start Temple, played in the NBA, rough and rugged,

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<v Speaker 1>no punk in him at all. You're gonna be tough

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<v Speaker 1>playing for him. You're gonna be accountable playing for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Rick Brunton. I think he's somebody that we

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<v Speaker 1>should keep our eyes on for future opportunities in the NBA. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>i'm'a let you know that right now. I'm just throwing

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<v Speaker 1>them on my list. Number three on the list Mike Malone,

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<v Speaker 1>former coach in Denver, one of the NBA Championship a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. Just work with me doing the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Conference finals I would have no problem if the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Knicks picked him as the next head coach

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<v Speaker 1>of the franchise, no problem whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he departed on.

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<v Speaker 1>The tense terms because players kind of needed to hear

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<v Speaker 1>a new voice. He was big on player accountability. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the greatest relationship reportedly anyway with the GM

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Booth, and so both of them ended up getting

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<v Speaker 1>booted out of there by the gron Keys.

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<v Speaker 2>Who on the team. But Mike Malone is a champion.

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<v Speaker 1>And a damn a damn great basketball mind who is

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<v Speaker 1>proven he could coach. We ain't sleeping on that, so

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<v Speaker 1>he would definitely be on my list. Wouldn't put him

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<v Speaker 1>top two though, I put Mark Jackson at number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the Mark Jackson used to coach a Golden State.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Mark Jackson and starred at Saint John's. Remember the

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Jackson that was Rookie of the Year in the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA for the New York Knicks. Remember the Mark Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>that played for the Indiana Pacers. Remember that Mark Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>that ultimately coach the Golden State Warriors and groomed the

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<v Speaker 1>Splash Brothers for Steve curR to capitalized off of remember

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<v Speaker 1>that that Mark Jackson. Can somebody explain to me why

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<v Speaker 1>this man is still black ball from the NBA, not

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<v Speaker 1>even an assistant coach, as good of a job as

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<v Speaker 1>he has done, as knowledgeable as he is about the

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<v Speaker 1>game of basketball, me personally him Van Gundy.

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<v Speaker 2>I splashed them together.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved them being on the same coaching staff because

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<v Speaker 1>I missed them calling the games.

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<v Speaker 2>Love the job JJ Reddick did calling games.

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<v Speaker 1>Loved the job that Richard Jefferson with Dorris Burke and

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Breen do calling the games. Loved the job that

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Legler does. Love my man Ryan Ruko, the whole bit.

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<v Speaker 1>No shade on nobody. I'm proud to call these folks colleagues.

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<v Speaker 1>They're great. But I'm not gonna lie and tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't miss Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy, who,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Jeff and Gunny is a leader sistant

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<v Speaker 1>on the Los Angeles Clippers bench. I think if Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson would get a head coaching job, Jeff Van Gundy

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<v Speaker 1>should be his top assistant. I think if Jef Van

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<v Speaker 1>Gundy gets a head coaching job, Mark Jackson should be

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<v Speaker 1>his stop assistant.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I'm flowing with it. That's how I'm flowing

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only that, when you consider New York in

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<v Speaker 1>the sizzle that you need since players, since people like

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<v Speaker 1>Leon Rose don't want to talk to the media, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it helps to see a guy like Mark Jackson talking

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<v Speaker 1>because he's one of our own in New York. You understand,

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<v Speaker 1>we love Bishop Locklan, Saint John's Nicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Mark Jackson one of the greatest point guards in New.

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<v Speaker 1>York history, by the way, and you're talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>brother that grew up the great Kenny Nsen. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong, one better than these dudes. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>in that ballpark because he was a safe to Rod

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<v Speaker 1>Strickland just saw him the other day at the Knixt game.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephon Marlbury might be the greatest point guard in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not sleep on that, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you got the Nate tiny Archiballs, the Stephar Marlbury's,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rod Stricklands, the late great d Wayne Pearl Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest show in the history of college basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>You think I'm lying, go back and watch the tape.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back and watch the tape. Listen d Wayne Pearl

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<v Speaker 2>Washington and went to Syracuse. We had some great point

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<v Speaker 2>guards Kennedy and Jet Smith. Let's not forget him.

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem Reid out of Saint Ravens, Let's not forget him.

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<v Speaker 1>God Sham god Well, one of the greatest handles in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not forget him. With all of that being said.

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<v Speaker 1>Still got to mention Monk Jackson. Still got to mention

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<v Speaker 1>mank Jackson. He's one of us in New York City

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<v Speaker 1>with him as the head coach worth consideration. Just can't

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<v Speaker 1>put him number one at the list against another dude

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<v Speaker 1>who's under contract, and I put email you doak in

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<v Speaker 1>this category, slash him number one with the great Ty

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<v Speaker 1>Lou for the Los Angeles Clippers, a champion, some man,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who continuously overachieves, who makes in game adjustments. Who

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<v Speaker 1>if James Harden was short for Game seven, who knows

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<v Speaker 1>where far he would have want he would have gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just sorry. I love James Hardiper Damn. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying these are things to consider. So I got ty

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<v Speaker 1>lu slash email you Dooka. Both under contract teams ain't

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<v Speaker 1>letting them out their deals. We understand that I got

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Jackson, who everybody should have on their list to

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<v Speaker 1>be a head coach in the NBA. I got Mike Malone,

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<v Speaker 1>who everybody's have, on the list to be a coach

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA. He's a champion, okay. I got Rick Brunston,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got Jay Wright with an honorable mention for

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<v Speaker 1>my man, Sam Counsel and Boston who deserves a head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching opportunity at some point, if not already.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just me, that's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>A producer in my ear brought up Danny Hurley really really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he's at Connecticut. Yeah, Yukon, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I mean, you know he's can coach, Danny Hurley.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna pooh pooh that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hurlies are the Hurlies. They're an institution, so we

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<v Speaker 1>know we I was getting ready to get on my

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<v Speaker 1>producer about that, but he's actually right, And since he's right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna leave it at that.