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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky, Rhett back with

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Speaker 3: you and we have playoff games to recap. Dude, it

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Speaker 3: was an incredible, incredible weekend. There were some blowouts. I

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Speaker 3: was just like, man, give us a close game. Please

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Speaker 3: just give us a good close game, man, Buck, we

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Speaker 3: got one. We got one there at the end. We're

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Speaker 3: feel like one of the things with scouting that you're

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Speaker 3: always doing is you're always trying to figure out not

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Speaker 3: just where the league is, but where it's heading, and

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Speaker 3: what the smart teams are doing, what the successful teams

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Speaker 3: are doing, roster building, all those types of things. Buck,

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Speaker 3: anything when you watch this weekend of football that you thought, Okay,

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Speaker 3: there's something here, like something that kind of tied this together.

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Speaker 2: Draft and development strategies require everyone to be invested in

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Speaker 2: it being successful, meaning the coaches in the front office

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Speaker 2: and to put them on the field. It's not a

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Speaker 2: And the only way that you can do that is

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Speaker 2: you have that kind of alignment, you can have the

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Speaker 2: kind of success that we've seen. I would say the Rams,

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Speaker 2: even though they lost, the Detroit Lions, the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say that's a great point, and it was

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Speaker 4: the GM and talked about how they've been in lockstep

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Speaker 4: Saint Brown and in La with Pooka and Cooper. But

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Speaker 4: I mean seven different guys could have caught any number

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Speaker 4: I just think that the draft and development and the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point, man. I think being in

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Speaker 2: Buck, Yeah, uh so, I love it so and responding

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Speaker 3: So let's spend it forward a little bit here. Obviously

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, man, it's either coaching, personnel, or scheme.

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Speaker 4: It comes down to the plane and how you utilize them. Right,

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Speaker 3: And well, we can keep him. We only do the

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Speaker 2: Man look a very I mean it was a very

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Speaker 2: He was on fight. He was absolutely amazing in terms

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Speaker 2: but I will say this, a motivated Jared Goff early

433
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Speaker 2: in the game was throwing absolute darts. The first one

434
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Speaker 2: that he ripped to Josh Reynolds on that square ind

435
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Speaker 2: I mean it was, oh okay, Jared, you can't you

436
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 2: came to play today like you can't show Matthew Stafford

437
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Speaker 2: and crew that I got it. And so I think

438
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Speaker 2: we have to keep that in mind as we begin

439
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Speaker 2: to transition to the draft and what we're looking for

440
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Speaker 2: at that position. Man, that number one overall spot, it

441
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Speaker 2: has to have someone who has supreme talent and exceptional

442
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Speaker 2: toughness to be able to get it done, because both

443
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Speaker 2: of those quarterbacks show with it.

444
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and DJ, I think you know it's obvious, but

445
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 4: this game came down to red zone production right where

446
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 4: the Rams were zero for three on scoring touchdowns in

447
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Speaker 4: the red zone the Lions.

448
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Speaker 5: Were three for three.

449
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Speaker 4: That is literally where this game was decided because the

450
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Speaker 4: other way Rams put that in the paint two out

451
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Speaker 4: of the three times.

452
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Speaker 5: One out of the three times.

453
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Speaker 4: We're talking about a win, you know for La And look,

454
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Speaker 4: it was a number of things like I don't know

455
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Speaker 4: that you can just point to. Well, you know, I

456
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Speaker 4: was play calling here, it was it was protection here,

457
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Speaker 4: it was you know, route running here, was really good defense.

458
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Speaker 5: By Detroit by the way down there.

459
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Speaker 4: It was all that stuff, And it was a bunch

460
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Speaker 4: of different things at a bunch of different plays.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, protection got beat a couple of times.

462
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't run it maybe as much as they probably,

463
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Speaker 4: you know, looking back, wanted to in a couple of

464
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Speaker 4: different situations. Yeah, Marcus Robinson got jammed up and forced

465
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Speaker 4: you know, Cooper Cup to adjust his route.

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Speaker 5: That might have been a touchdown.

467
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Speaker 4: But again, little things here in there, and they get

468
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Speaker 4: amplified down there in the red area.

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Speaker 5: We all know it.

470
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Speaker 4: But real quick, because I want to go back to

471
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Speaker 4: you and let you dig in on the comp you

472
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Speaker 4: made on Twitter yesterday talking about pookin a COUA and

473
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Speaker 4: Hines Ward. We've all seen it by now right, the

474
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Speaker 4: less sneed and Sean McVay conversations on Draft Day about

475
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Speaker 4: Pook and a COUPA about the type of receiver that

476
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Speaker 4: Sean wanted. You know, you remember the things that he

477
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Speaker 4: said when you when they released that video.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I want a guy who's where he's supposed

479
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Speaker 1: to be. He's grounded through the catch, aggressive hands, dig

480
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Speaker 1: out in the run game, and then he can be

481
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Speaker 1: an extension of the run game.

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Speaker 5: And Less is like, well, why don't you take the

483
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Speaker 5: whole draft with all that? Right? But but here's the thing.

484
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Speaker 4: Two things he had a vision for what he wanted,

485
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Speaker 4: and two he didn't ask for four to three speed.

486
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Speaker 4: He didn't ask for you know, insane athleticism, which, by

487
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Speaker 4: the way, fine if you get that, it's great. But

488
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Speaker 4: those other things that he knows he can succeed with,

489
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Speaker 4: that's what you talk about with coach in person being

490
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Speaker 4: in lockstep. That's how they came together and found an

491
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Speaker 4: absolute steal of a player in Puku Nakua in the

492
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Speaker 4: fifth round. So again, toughness, tenacity they talk about there.

493
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Speaker 4: That was Pooka in this game, run after the cash,

494
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Speaker 4: the whole deal.

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Speaker 3: Can I take this and you're gonna this is gonna

496
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Speaker 3: feel like it's a super weird turn, But can I

497
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Speaker 3: tell you how excited I would be right now, if

498
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Speaker 3: I was a Washington commander fan based off what you

499
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Speaker 3: just said right there in that conversation, and I'm gonna

500
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Speaker 3: draw it together for you, because this is starts with

501
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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan, right Kyle Shanahan. Sean learned and worked together

502
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Speaker 3: with Kyle.

503
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Speaker 2: They had a.

504
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Speaker 3: Shared vision of what they want and wide receivers. Think

505
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Speaker 3: about what the Rams have done with wide receivers. Think

506
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Speaker 3: about what the forty nine ers have done with wide receivers.

507
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Speaker 3: Think about the Minnesota Vikings. With Kevin, what he's done

508
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Speaker 3: coming underneath Sean and him identify he was. I had

509
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Speaker 3: a text from him about Jordan Edison two months before

510
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Speaker 3: the draft, how excited he was about him because of

511
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Speaker 3: a lot of the same things you're talking about. They

512
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Speaker 3: know what they want and what works in that system,

513
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Speaker 3: especially at the wide receiver position. Adam Peters is gonna

514
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Speaker 3: be the new GM in Washington. Has spent all this

515
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Speaker 3: time and Buck we've known him forever, uh with with

516
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Speaker 3: Kyle up there, he knows it. He's got the secret

517
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Speaker 3: sauce here of how to evaluate that position. Now, they're

518
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Speaker 3: pretty good in that room. They've got Terry mclaurin's is

519
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Speaker 3: a stud John Dodson is a really good young player.

520
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Speaker 3: But they're going to continue to add to that group.

521
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Speaker 3: It's it's interesting to me that there's certain groups of

522
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Speaker 3: you know, under that tree where they can evaluate certain

523
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Speaker 3: things really really well. Man. That's that's a great example

524
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Speaker 3: of what they know how to how to scout that.

525
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Speaker 4: Which one of those three teams is going to get

526
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Speaker 4: Lad McConkey, Yeah, let's well durability.

527
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Speaker 3: We'll get to him.

528
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Speaker 2: We'll get to him later.

529
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Speaker 3: I like him, I like player.

530
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Speaker 2: But no so so I love those things that you're

531
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Speaker 2: talking about and read. Like when I think about the

532
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Speaker 2: wide receiver position, as Sean McVay is describing it, reliability

533
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Speaker 2: to depend the billy, that's what I wanted to beturity

534
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Speaker 2: and intelligence. So that's the other thing. So you know

535
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Speaker 2: we've talked about I've talked about like with young quarterbacks,

536
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Speaker 2: I want to pay him with a him a receiver

537
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: because I want them to know that, hey, you can

538
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: let the ball go, you can trust it, you can

539
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: throw it to the spot because the old guy is

540
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: going to be exactly where they're supposed to be. I

541
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Speaker 2: would say Hookah is mature beyond his years. The other

542
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Speaker 2: thing that I would say in the Rams case, and

543
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 2: I said this, they had a perfect clone already in

544
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Speaker 2: the building to be able to vividly say this is

545
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: what we're looking for. I think I told you the story.

546
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: The same guy that coach Cooper Cup coach Pooka Nakoua

547
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Speaker 2: at you, Dubb Junior Adams, And so when they're doing

548
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Speaker 2: the draft stuff and we talk about the scout's job

549
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: is to go and do the back, hey, maybe Junior

550
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Speaker 2: Adams told him, Hey, guys, I know this. He reminds

551
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Speaker 2: me a lot like the guy that I had at

552
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Speaker 2: Eastern Washington. So maybe he will be a perfect fit

553
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Speaker 2: in your system.

554
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Speaker 4: And look, look, Pooka might might have gone on to

555
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 4: have been a terrific player if he'd have been drafted

556
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Speaker 4: somewhere else. But I guarantee you he's not setting rookie

557
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 4: records if Cooper Cup's not there, if Matthew Stafford is

558
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Speaker 4: his quarterback, if McVeigh didn't have that kind of vision

559
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Speaker 4: for him, they utilize it that way. And I don't

560
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 4: want to take that away from anything that Pooka is

561
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Speaker 4: just saying it all matters.

562
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Speaker 2: Eighty five percent of the league. It's about the system.

563
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: It's fit in system. He's a perfect fit for the system,

564
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 2: which is why in DJ I talked about this. Sometimes

565
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: it's hard on our end now to scout for the

566
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: league because we don't have those parameters in place. When

567
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Speaker 2: you work for a team, you should if it's a

568
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 2: good organization, they give you clear aight, this is what

569
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Speaker 2: we're looking for at the position. So now when I'm

570
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Speaker 2: rank them from one to ten, these guys fit and

571
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: qualify to me, those places that you talk about Minnesota,

572
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Speaker 2: the Rams. Hopefully when we talk about the commanders, they're

573
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Speaker 2: gonna have a clear vision for what they wanted each

574
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Speaker 2: of those positions one percent.

575
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Speaker 3: All right, let's keep it moving here. Let's get to

576
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. In a frigid, frigid cold game, they get

577
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Speaker 3: after the Miami Dolphins. A lot of different ways we

578
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: can go with this one, ratt But to me, I

579
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: think that everybody's going to talk about a couple of

580
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Speaker 3: things come out of this game. Talk about the weather,

581
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: They're going to talk about Taylor Swift, They're going to

582
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: talk about UH, Pacheco and running hardy service, wag the

583
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Speaker 3: whole thing.

584
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Speaker 4: UH.

585
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Speaker 3: To me, anything that doesn't start at the headline of

586
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Speaker 3: the chief defense and what they continue to do playing

587
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: dominant football for a long time. Now, That to me

588
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 3: is the biggest takeaway in this game.

589
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and and Bucky, It's gonna be really quick for me,

590
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 4: and I'll spin it right back to you here. I

591
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Speaker 4: think you see that in the fact that the Miami

592
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: Dolphins had zero run game, zero explosives in the run game.

593
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Speaker 4: And we could talk about the Dolphins defense being all

594
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 4: banged up and they've had injuries, whatever, it didn't they

595
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 4: had everybody they needed to have on the offensive side

596
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Speaker 4: of the ball to run the offense the way that

597
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Speaker 4: they they want to right, which is explosive plays in

598
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Speaker 4: the run game, you know, and then hit. They didn't

599
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 4: have it, and the Chiefs defense is a big part

600
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Speaker 4: of it. But bottom line, they did not have the

601
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Speaker 4: explosives on the ground that they need to for that

602
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Speaker 4: offense to be successful.

603
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Speaker 2: I mean, let's go back to the talk we talked

604
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: about observations, observations about getting young people ready to play.

605
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Speaker 2: So when the Kansa City Chiefs made the commitment to

606
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes to pay them the blockbuster deal that they did,

607
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: they basically told the defense, you're gonna have to draft

608
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: and develop your personnel. There's no one coming in from

609
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: the outside that's gonna be a marquee name with blockbuster

610
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: money to save it. So we need to make sure

611
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: that we can play a defense that allows young people

612
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Speaker 2: to play. And when you think about the guys to

613
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: show up outside of Chris Jones, George Carl Loftus is

614
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: what second year you think about that second wave of linebackers.

615
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: Both of those guys with exception and Drew Franquell are

616
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: young guys the secondary. All first and second year guys

617
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Speaker 2: with exception l Jerry Sneid who's a little older, but

618
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: all developed in house. And so we talk about being

619
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: in lockstep front office and coaching staff. Here are the

620
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: players that we need. When we get them, we're going

621
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Speaker 2: to play them. And shout out to my old high

622
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: school teammate David Mary who coaches the secondary at Kansas City.

623
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Speaker 2: They've been able to do it with so many young players.

624
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: Jerry Steve Man, I just gotta I just gotta figure out.

625
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: I got to call it day and be like, hey man,

626
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: what are you doing with these young guys? Because it

627
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who they put into secondary young they are

628
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: playing and they're playing well and knowing a little bit

629
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: about Spags the system, it ain't real easy to learn.

630
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: So they've done a really good job of getting those

631
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: guys up this meet. And the only way you can

632
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: do it is the scouts have to go on the

633
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: road knowing exactly what they're looking for, and then the

634
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: coaches have to take those players and give them to

635
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: the next level really quickly.

636
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Speaker 3: All right, can I can I change gears here? Let

637
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Speaker 3: me get to Miami, and I want to just kind

638
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Speaker 3: of ease the concerns and the panic and the hysteria

639
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: for the Miami Dolphin fans here. Okay, I'm gonna do

640
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: it by giving you two different sets of numbers here,

641
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: you're ready, mm hm, three and five? Okay, remember that

642
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: three wins, five losses. Now, let's look at two wins,

643
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: five losses. Okay, Well, let me tell you what that is.

644
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: That is Peyton Manning's road playoff record, and that is

645
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 3: Drew Brees's road playoff record. Now, I'm not saying that Tua.

646
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Tua is Peyton or he is Drew Brees.

647
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying those teams were specifically built on precision passing,

648
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: which requires them to play home playoff games to be successful.

649
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: The regular season matters more to precision passing teams than

650
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 3: it does to anyone else. Tua is a precision passer.

651
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: He is not a play in minus thirty degree weather quarterback. Okay,

652
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: that's okay, that's okay. That doesn't mean that you can't

653
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: win a super Bowl with Tua. You can win a

654
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: super Bowl with Tua, but you better freaking take care

655
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: of business in the regular season and play at home.

656
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: And that doesn't And those two are dome teams. This

657
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: is a warm weather team, but their team's bucky are

658
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: built the same. They're built to play with the lead.

659
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: They're built to be very precise and accurate and throw

660
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: with anticipation. They're not built to throw in fifty mile

661
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: an hour gusting wins and negative thirty degree win chill.

662
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: And you have to know that. And the funny thing

663
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: when we talk about normally DJ we always talk about

664
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: where we talked about building your team to win a division. Well,

665
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: even though you're the Miami Dolphins and you play in

666
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: warm weather for eight or nine games out the year,

667
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: you still have to go to New York Buffalo in

668
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: New England. So you would like to think that you

669
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: would have an element of your team that could deal

670
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: with inclement conditions, because it's likely that you're gonna play

671
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: a game or two during the regular season in that fashion.

672
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: And so as fun as the Miami Dolphins are to watch,

673
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: I would say they're ill equipped to deal with these

674
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: kinds of conditions. And so the question that Mike McDaniels

675
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: has to ask himself when he reflects, can we go

676
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: forward kind of being the splashy team that we are

677
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: or do we need to tweak it a little bit

678
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: to be able to give us a chance to have

679
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: the success.

680
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: Fuck, they didn't lose this game this week. They lost

681
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: this game last week at home against Buffalo in perfect

682
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: weather conditions. Even like, even if you say, okay, you're

683
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: again between those three divisional teams, you're gonna get one

684
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: crappy weather game probably if you handle your business at

685
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: home and you know, do split in the road, Yeah,

686
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit better you're gonna have. You're gonna

687
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 3: be home. Like they lost that game at home. They

688
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: cannot lose that. I know they're missing guys, but that

689
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: team needed to win the game at home against Buffalo.

690
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: Their playoffs ended when they lost to Buffalo at home.

691
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: That was it.

692
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I don't have anything. I think we

693
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 5: covered it.

694
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: I mean like when when they can't throw the ball

695
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: the way they want to and they're not successful and running.

696
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: The floor, just the team, there's nothing to them, that's it.

697
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

698
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not a grounded they're not a grounded out team.

699
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 2: So they are a finests team. They want to get

700
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: on the perimeter, they want to do all the Q

701
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: stuff or whatever. And it works in South Florid. It's

702
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: better in South Florid. And well, I think the pressure then,

703
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: did you if you talk about it, we got to

704
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: go eight to oh, nine to zero at home, you're

705
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: sure that we get a home game or home games

706
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. But even then, DJ, if that's the deal,

707
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: this is your chef life and window that you can

708
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: do that. I know you're talking about Peyton Manning in it,

709
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: but it's hard. If you're a dome team built to

710
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: play just in the confines of your spotted it just

711
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: makes it hard to have I would say, high level

712
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: of Super Bowl success to be able to do it. Yeah.

713
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: No, and those teams didn't because they don't have like

714
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes has already won a couple and Patrick Mahomes

715
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: has been fortunate he's been at home. But Patrick Mahomes

716
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: and like Josh Allen, those guys can play in any environment,

717
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: any quarterback, It doesn't matter.

718
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: The quarterback makes you weather friendly.

719
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: But I think I think I think some people kind

720
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: of look at that and say, Okay, you know, we

721
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: got to throw our quarterback out because he's not Josh

722
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: Allen or Patrick Mahomes, Like yeah, no, what not. Many

723
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: dudes are.

724
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: Man.

725
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: Now, once you get to that kind of level where

726
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: Tua is right now, I think he's in the tough

727
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: to discard him level, you know what I mean, Like

728
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: you can't just say, yeah, it's hard to find better,

729
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: like like to me, like the difference, like that's a

730
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: conversation and Justin fields and Tua, Like Tua's just shown

731
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: he could play at a much higher level than Justin.

732
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: So that's a different conversation because I can already hear

733
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: people saying what you're saying, maybe they need to move

734
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: on from Justin, maybe they need to get better. I

735
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: think it's a little bit fine. I think it's easier

736
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: to find No, I think it's easier to find that

737
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: level just above justin I think the level above two

738
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: is gonna be that's hard to find.

739
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: Okay.

740
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: So, so where you're at and listening to the conversation

741
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: two tell you about Lowe and Dak Proscott are more

742
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: alike than different.

743
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair.

744
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: They're they're good enough to get you to a certain level,

745
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: but they're hard to replace because it's rare to find

746
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: guys that are better than their best. That's the perfect

747
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: so said, and and and so you're there. Then it

748
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: becomes Okay, if my quarterback is going to be like this,

749
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: how can I squeeze? How can I ring the rag out?

750
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: What can I do? So? Do I need to put

751
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: a level players around them? Do we need to put

752
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: something on the defense? What it is the quarterback is

753
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: going to get me to this level? I need the

754
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: rest of the pieces to get us over the top.

755
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: That's where both of those teams are.

756
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great way. That's a great way to

757
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: tie that together. I don't think I've heard anybody compare

758
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: to A and Dak. That's an interesting spot to be in.

759
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: I think the reaction, the immediate reaction to both of

760
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: those fan bases is get these guys out of here.

761
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: They're not good enough. And it's a dude, you better

762
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 3: tell me where you're going to get somebody better. Last

763
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: I checked, you ain't picking the first pick in the

764
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: draft now, like, so that's interesting, interesting dilemma there. All right,

765
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: Brown's Texans, uh buck, I will give you the floor.

766
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 3: Can we start? I'm going to force you to start

767
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 3: here first though.

768
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: C J.

769
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: Stroud is twenty two years old. I've never seen anything

770
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: like it, man, I'm telling you, like I'm not. I

771
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: try not to be about hyperbole, and I never seen

772
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: I've never seen somebody so completely dialed in and locked

773
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: in and to play that elite level of football at

774
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: this This is insane. I don't even know. I don't

775
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: have words for it, but go ahead.

776
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really insane. And I kind of kip myself

777
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: because having known the kid, having been around the kid

778
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: when he was in high school, he had the same

779
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: kind of stuff to him. But DJ like, here's the thing,

780
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: and here's the thing as an evaluator, because everyone will

781
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: go back and look at like the drafts of him

782
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: and Bryce or whatever. But I'm be honest with you,

783
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 2: Like what we're seeing now we didn't see at Ohio State.

784
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: I mean you saw flashes and snippets, but not this

785
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: dude that showed up in Houston. And he's a completely

786
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: different animal than the one that we saw in college.

787
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know how you factor in the development

788
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: piece or whatever. I think what this speaks to is

789
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: when we're evaluating and when decision makers are evaluating the

790
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: quarterback position, man, so much of it is the guy

791
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: more so than the tools. Like how is the guy?

792
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: Because when you hear Demiko Ryants talk about we are

793
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: here because of that guy, We are here because of CJ. Stroud,

794
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: we lean on him, we're doing this all of that,

795
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: it just tells me that and probably this dude is

796
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: demand Like everyone knows that he is the guy, and

797
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: he carries himself in a way that on the outside

798
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: maybe we don't know it, but there's a dog that

799
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: lurks in that no one has necessarily seen, and no

800
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: one saw during the pre process.

801
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: So I'll just tag it real quick and get to

802
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: you at the We've talked about this a million times.

803
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: I've brought this up a million times by other people

804
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: in other positions. There's three levels, right, There's interested, there's invested,

805
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: and there's obsessed. I don't know how you can watch CJ.

806
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: Stroud and even just watch the pregame routine go in

807
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: like this dude is obsessed with greatness. And I tip

808
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: my cap to him because I thought he was talented.

809
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: I didn't know that he's because wired like this obsessive

810
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: maniac that is just I never seen, Honestly, I don't

811
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: seen anything like it. What he's doing right now, at

812
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: this stage, at this level.

813
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 5: I think I would agree.

814
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: And what I'm what it reminds me of right now

815
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: is two thousand and nine, twenty thirteen Drew Brees and

816
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: that every time that dude drops back to pass completion completion,

817
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: they gotta find no explosive They're gonna hit something down

818
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: the middle of the field like it. And you know what,

819
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 4: in the same way that Sean Payton was scheming stuff up,

820
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 4: Bobby Slowik is scheming up winners for CJ.

821
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 5: Stroud.

822
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: Like we want to talk about the p's play caller.

823
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: They got that in spades there now. I think they

824
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 4: they've got some playmakers now, especially when Tank Dell comes

825
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: back next year. But I think there's still some work

826
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: that they can do on the protection front, especially since

827
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: they've been banged up and had to kind of use

828
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 4: a lot of different parts this year. But they've got

829
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: everything you want. I am, I would tell you right now,

830
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: and then I'll just flip to the defensive side here

831
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: real quick, because Nick Cassario and you know, the guys

832
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: have worked a masterclass in trying to find different ways

833
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 4: to figure out the players they need on this defense

834
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 4: to make it work. They've done it with high draft picks.

835
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: They've done it with in free agency. They with you know,

836
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: guys like Denzel Perryman. They've done it, you know, with

837
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 4: guys like Jimmy Wars. They continue to build in so

838
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: many different off waivers we talked about atop of this show,

839
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 4: Derek Barnett, My j Sanders, and then development. How about

840
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 4: Christian Harris might have been the best player on the

841
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: field for the Texas. I mean, yeah, tekeond round pick

842
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: and but again it took a little bit of time

843
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 4: and he's now found his way.

844
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: And hey, Patrick Queen, by the way, Patrick Queen, by

845
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: the way, maybe let's not maybe let's not say these

846
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: off the ball linebackers have to come in and light

847
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: the world on fire. Year one, maybe let's be a

848
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: little patient with those guys. It's a lot of responsibility.

849
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 5: Good call. Again, that's a that's a lockstep.

850
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: That's a lockstep franchise right now with coaching and evaluation,

851
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: like they they get it.

852
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 5: They know.

853
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: And there are two teams that I am really excited

854
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: to watch what they do this offseason. And obviously the

855
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 4: Texans are still going I'm in no means ending their run.

856
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: But going into next year, it's the Rams and it's

857
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 4: the Texans with the youth movement and the and the

858
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: playmakers at quarterback.

859
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of things. We can talk about players

860
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: all day, but I think not enough has been said

861
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: about Demiko Ryans in terms of the job you're done. Like,

862
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: you know, at a time where everyone is looking for

863
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: a head coach now, leadership is underrated in terms of

864
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: what he's done. He talked about, you know, from a

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Speaker 2: leadership standpoint A. We want to create a positive environment.

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Speaker 2: We want to give positive reinforcement, positive criticism. We want

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Speaker 2: to be honest with them. We want to demand a lot,

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Speaker 2: but we don't want to demean them. You won't hear

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Speaker 2: our coaches cursing guys out you won't hear us doing

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Speaker 2: the A. We're gonna throw our arms around them, were

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Speaker 2: gonna hug them, but we want to be honest with

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Speaker 2: them at a time where we talk about this new

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Speaker 2: generation of player, because you're here, the new generation of player. A,

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Speaker 2: they're softer this and that. I think Demiko rans has

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Speaker 2: done a great job of creating a cooperation between he

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Speaker 2: and his players, and he uses the quarterback as kind

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Speaker 2: of like the main driver of that. We're in a

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Speaker 2: business now in the National Football League. It is a partnership,

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Speaker 2: and the coaches that are able to kind of create

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Speaker 2: that investment between players and teams, they're the ones to

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Speaker 2: be able to get it. The other thing because I

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Speaker 2: think we can talk about this in DJ's point, when

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Speaker 2: you talked about the quarterback, DJ, we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: They're guys that like it, and they're guys that love

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Speaker 2: it right now the teams that have it, because I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at Detroit and I'm thinking about Dan Campbell, there

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Speaker 2: is nobody on those lines teams that don't love it

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Speaker 2: like Dan Campbell does. And I think everybody has to

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Speaker 2: do it. Like we just got to be able to

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Speaker 2: have the right guys that are obsessed with the success

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Speaker 2: and obsessed with doing the dirty work to be able

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Speaker 2: to be a great team and a great player.

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's it, man, I absolutely think it's it.

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Speaker 3: And all these teams that have won have done a

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Speaker 3: great job of building out the rosters. And we've got

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Speaker 3: a couple games coming up today which we have a

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Speaker 3: chance to recap this week as well, so plenty more

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Speaker 3: playoff football to dig into. But that's gonna do it

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Speaker 3: for us today.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 3: I hope you guys enjoyed this one. It's always fun

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Speaker 3: to get to talk when we have high stakes and

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Speaker 3: win or go home football. There's nothing better. I hope

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Speaker 3: you guys have enjoyed as much as we have, and

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Speaker 3: we'll see you next time. Right here Onmove the sticks.