1 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Hey, that folks at a Saturday, January twenty fourth, and 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: we have a breaking story out of Minneapolis, a city 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: that right now is on edge about what will happen 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: into the night because there has been another shooting, another 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: ice involved shooting, and another American is dead. Welcome to 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: this breaking episode of Amy and TJ and Robes. Let's 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: start with that, there is another ice involved shooting in Minneapolis. 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: Happened this morning. 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: Yes, it happened around nine AM. And by the way, 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: temperatures were around ten degrees below zero. And yet people 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: are out peacefully protesting as they have been for the 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: past several weeks. But the person we know who was 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: killed is a thirty seven year old white man. He 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: is believed to be a Minneapolis resident with no prior 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: criminal record, And that's all we have right now. But 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: we are seeing videos and I'm saying videos plural, because 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: there have been now at least two significant angles of 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: videos that covered the moments leading up to the shooting. 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: So yes, folks, there is another video of the shooting 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: that people will now debate and debate and debate. But 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: right now we are getting and we will pass along 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: to you this story in three different versions, the version 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: we're getting from the city, the version we're getting from 24 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: the FEDS, and the version will give you from what 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: we see with our own eyes in studying these videos 26 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: as we have for the past several minutes before we 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: hopped on here, let's start those rods with a DHS. 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: They were the first to put out I guess, official 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: statement about what the incident was, and this is their story. 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: Yes, this is from DHS. 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: At nine oh five am Central time, as DHS law 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: enforcement officers were conducting a targeted operation in Minneapolis against 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: an illegal alien wanted for violent assault, an individual approached 34 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: US Border Patrol officers with a nine millimeter semi automatic handgun. 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Scene here they have a picture of the gun in 36 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: a seat of a car below this statement. The statement 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: goes on to say this the officers attempted to disarm 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: the suspect, but the armed suspect violently resisted. More details 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: on the armed struggle are forthcoming. Fearing for his life 40 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent 41 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: fired defensive shots. Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid 42 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: to the subject, but was pronounced dead at the scene. 43 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: The suspect also had two magazines and no ID. This 44 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do 45 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: maximum damage and massacre law enforcement. About two hundred rioters 46 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: arrived at at the scene and began to obstruct and 47 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: assault law enforcement on the scene. Crowd control measures were 48 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: deployed for the safety of the public and law enforcement. 49 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 2: The situation is evolving and more information is forthcoming. 50 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Can you go back up to the sentence at the 51 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: beginning where they said this approached with what was that? 52 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: Just say that line to me again. 53 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: Yes, they said that the office. Wait, hold on, okay, 54 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: an individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a nine 55 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: millimeter semi automatic handgun. 56 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna hold on to that, and we're gonna 57 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: get back to that. That's going to be a very 58 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: important point in telling this story. We did end up 59 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: seeing a live press conference by the ICE, the guy 60 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: who's heading of ICE operations. There he did add a 61 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: few more details. He said, this person wanted this sounded 62 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: like an ambush, he said, this person in his opinion, 63 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and he went a little with that and describing He said, 64 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: this was someone who appeared and had two extra magazines 65 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: he said that were full. He wanted to make sure 66 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: he made that point and said this is what was 67 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: on him, and they think he was approaching to do 68 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: maximum damage. He went a little farther with that. He 69 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: went as far as also trying to justify why they 70 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: were there. They named the person who was targeted. It 71 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: wasn't the individual that's dead. 72 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: No, No, the individual who is dead, all we know 73 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: is he is a white Minneapolis resident. So he is 74 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: not someone who immigrated to the United States or somebody 75 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: who is wanted or targeted by police. 76 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: So no, he had. 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: Nothing to do with this targeted mission they were on. 78 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: But they claim he came up and approached the officers 79 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: with that handgun. So and we heard all of this, 80 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: at least I heard all of this and read all 81 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: of this before I watched the video. 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: All right, we're going to get to that third version 83 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: of events, which is the one we're seeing with our 84 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: own eyes here in a second. But Rosey, this was 85 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: the incredible part. The person who's dead is not the 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: person who was the targeted person in the operation, who 87 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: they say was an illegal immigrant who had what a 88 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: criminal history, And they went on, yes, how they put 89 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: it illegal alien as they excuse me as they like 90 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: to put it. But then the city Now. Something the 91 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: Ice guy said in his press conference was that Mayor 92 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Fry had left out the detail that the subject had 93 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: a gun during his press conference. So yes, we listened 94 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: to a Mayor Fry's press conference as well, including the 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: police chief. This was I guess this was early on 96 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: when they gave this particular press conference. They didn't have 97 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: a lot of details, but they were the ones that 98 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: let us know they have a name. They just didn't 99 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: announce it correct. 100 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: And Mayor Fry in that press conference said he watched 101 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: the video and in his opinion, it shows Ice agents quote, 102 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: pummeling one of our constituents and shooting. 103 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: Him to death. 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: And then he added, how many more residents, how many 105 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: more Americans need to die or get badly hurt for 106 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: this operation to end? So he was definitely adding fuel 107 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: to the fire. 108 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: And right now. And the police chief was up there 109 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: after this shooting happened. They said on the southeast side 110 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: of the city, I believe it south side of the city. 111 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: There was an unlawful assembly, as the police chief put it, 112 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and they were pleading with folks to go home because 113 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: there was an angry group of a couple to a 114 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: few hundred folks, they said, robes that were collecting there, 115 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: and this was becoming a very explosive situation. So it 116 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: was an unlawful assembly, and they were asking for mutual 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: aid for help from other agencies to come in and 118 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: try to calm this. As of right now, I think robes. 119 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: As of this recording, things have calmed down. But it 120 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: was an ugly scene for a little bit. 121 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: Yes, they said about yeah, two hundred folks came to 122 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: that area and they actually had to. It looked like 123 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: they were throwing out tear gas and at least some 124 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: sort of chemical irritant to try and disperse the crowd 125 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: because people. 126 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: Were bringing in garbage. 127 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I was seeing videos if people created trying 128 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: to create barricades like it looked as if they were 129 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: starting to have or prepare for some sort of street war. 130 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: And look, the tensions are reaching a fever pitch. And 131 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: considering what the weather, I mean, we just walked out 132 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: and ran Errand's this morning here in New York City. 133 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: It was feels like I think zero or negative something. 134 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: But they are even in colder weather than that, and 135 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: so it's just kind of remarkable to think that the 136 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: tensions are still building there given the weather and the storms. 137 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: That are on the way, and there's some anxiety over 138 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: what could happen tonight. I mean this was a different 139 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Renee Good, that was video. I mean, 140 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: nothing's going to happen that's not going to get caught 141 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: on video. It appears there in Minneapolis, but robes this 142 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: story that we got from Frankly, both sides didn't match 143 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: with what we got from the video. So we will 144 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: let you know. And many of you hearing our voices 145 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: may have seen the video all already. The video hit 146 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: I think the internet before Homeland Security was able to 147 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: even have a press conference and get their statement out. 148 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: So there are two angles, I guess rogues. We'll start 149 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: there of the shooting, but there is one that has 150 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: a longer video where you actually see the first interaction 151 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: with the guy who ends up dead, his first interaction 152 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: with ICE agents. This is what you saw as well. 153 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: Please tell me if you saw something different. So this 154 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: is the guy they say approached them with a nine milimeter. 155 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: So I asked what the quote was, but I guess 156 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: you can get by he approached with a nine millimeter 157 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: sounds like he had it out in a threatening way. 158 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: He might have had it on him, but Robes, I 159 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: feel pretty confident in saying this man in no way 160 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: was brandishing a weapon as he approached officers. 161 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: The two videos that we watched, both angles show him 162 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: holding out a cell phone. He was taking it and 163 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: recording ICE officers. And look, you can hear the harassments 164 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,239 Speaker 2: that's going on in the streets where they're blowing whistles 165 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: and shouting. 166 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it is. 167 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: Annoying and intense and probably incredibly frustrating for ICE agents 168 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: who are trying to carry out their orders. So you 169 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: can see that it's creating this really tremendous pressure. And 170 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: now you've got this guy and it looks like he 171 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: was with a woman and he is recording. 172 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: Wait before this, now ropes he was with in the 173 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: beginning of the video, I saw him with no one. 174 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: Yes, correct, oh, yes, when he was standing in the 175 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: middle of the street. 176 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: And at that point, what would you say, at least 177 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: twenty feet away from ICE agents or maybe more from 178 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: what was going on, which was some kind of disturbance 179 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: that was happening with agents. 180 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: There was some sort of issue, and so he was 181 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: recording it and then he follows them over and please 182 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: interrupt if you think I'm saying this incorrectly. They walk 183 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: over to towards the side of where the curve is is, 184 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: and you know, the woman, I think it's a woman 185 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: is you know, in some sort of argument with the 186 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: Ice officers and they eventually throw her, like push her 187 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: on her back onto the curve. Correct And then he 188 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: gets into it with the officers at that point. 189 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: And again as he's getting into it, what we see 190 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: as a scuffle. Yes, we don't know what any of 191 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: this is about who these people are, but rogues, we 192 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: see pretty well what the dead guy's initial interaction was 193 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: with Ice agents. 194 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 3: And it wasn't threatening. 195 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: It was not threatening, No, and it wasn't until I'm sorry, 196 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: I absolutely saw an ICE agent throw and push a 197 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: woman to the ground onto her back, and she landed 198 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: on her back and that is when a physical scuffle began. Now, 199 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 2: I absolutely and you absolutely did not see him brandishing 200 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: a weapon or threatening the officers with the weapon. 201 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: They they get him. 202 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: To the ground and it looked like it was I 203 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: didn't count five or six to one. I mean, there 204 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: were several officers on top of this phone. 205 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because they were. 206 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: There were several now we have at least three individuals 207 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: involved in a scuffle, so yes, several agents started showing up. 208 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: The person who was I guess fighting back or resisting 209 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: was this one guy. 210 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: He was resisting. 211 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's an absolutely, a pretty violent scuffle, give them that. 212 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: What happened in the midst of that, you start hearing gun, 213 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: gun gun. Someone starts yelling gun, and you see the 214 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: ice agent. None of them have their weapons out at 215 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: the time. But there's one particular moment and something caused 216 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: a guy who was he wasn't even scuffling necessarily, he 217 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: was standing there and something causes him to go for 218 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: his holster and he draws and he fires. 219 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: Is it at least three? Four time? 220 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Yes, shots at this guy. What was it he saw? 221 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: But they were definitely yelling gun un gun. 222 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: And when someone started yelling gun, gun, gun, you could 223 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: see all of the officers disperse. It's like they jumped 224 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: back from the man who was on the ground, except 225 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: for the other officer who was kind of standing over 226 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: the scuffle. 227 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: He's the one who shot or fired the shots. 228 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: So stay here. We got more details from the city 229 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: about this citizen. Even though they have not given us 230 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: his name, they have given us details, including whether or 231 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: not he was allowed to have a weapon on him. 232 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: Stay here, we continue here. 233 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: On Amy and TJ hopping on on this Saturday afternoon 234 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: with his breaking story out of Minneapolis, and things right 235 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: now are just as hot as they have been after 236 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: ICE agents were involved in another shooting and now a 237 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: thirty seven year old US citizen, according to the city, 238 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: is dead after a violent scuffle that the video of 239 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: it is everywhere online. It's a good chance you've seen 240 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: it by now, but people are going to debate it 241 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: robes just like the Renee Good situation, our own eyes 242 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: looking at something and we're interpreting it differently. 243 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I just know the way DHS described it in 244 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: their statement does not match for me in my eyes 245 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: what I saw. And we watched both angles and slow mode, 246 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: it paused it, tried to incrementally look at it as 247 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: much as we can, and it's here's the point. I 248 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: can't see. You can't see whether or not he pulled 249 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: out his gun, or if maybe they just saw a 250 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: gun in his holster. 251 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: It's unclear. 252 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: You cannot tell once he got on the ground, if 253 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: he pulled out a gun. 254 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: An individual approached US Border Patrol agents with a nine 255 00:13:53,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: millimeter semi automatic handgun. Okay, are we really getting into 256 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: semantics here? He technically had it on a maybe, so 257 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: that means he approached with he was not. Now this 258 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: is just folks, this is not up for interpretation. He 259 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: had a phone out. I actually saw it and grabbed 260 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: you and say, hey, is it possibly he's got a 261 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: gun in his hand? 262 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: Now is a phone? 263 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: If he had had a gun out, he would have 264 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: been shot because they had thirty feet to do so 265 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: as he was walking towards so he did not. Yes, 266 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: he was struggling and scuffling and fighting with those officers. 267 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely robes what. 268 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Happened in a split second to change it from a 269 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: physical get him in custody to he needs he became 270 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: a violent, deadly threat. 271 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: Yes, you can't see that on the video. I mean 272 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: he resisted arrest. 273 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: There's absolutely no question he did that, and he was 274 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: violently struggling with the officers. But yes, what happened in 275 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: that moment when they got I mean it looked like 276 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: they got spooked. And is it because he pulled out 277 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: a gun or is it because they saw he had 278 00:14:59,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: a gun? 279 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: Don't know. 280 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: That's a question. 281 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: Not sure how we're going to actually be able to 282 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: find out. 283 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: And they put up that picture. They did they when 284 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: they made the announcement about the incident, they accompanied it 285 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: with a photograph and two clips just like they said 286 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: of the weapon they say that he had on them, 287 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: and the city officials said he was allowed to ropes, 288 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: he was allowed to have it. 289 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: They said he had a license to carry. 290 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: Now, obviously federal agent doesn't know that should he have 291 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: let them? What was How is that going to play 292 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: into this robes? This is a it looks split second. 293 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: You you can't second guess what a law enforcement officer. 294 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: Yes, you resist a rest, but to get shot because 295 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: you had a gun on you versus brandishing a gun 296 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: at police officers. 297 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: The question ends up being did that officer have a 298 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: reasonable a reasonable fear of his life? And if he did, 299 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: that's a that's a they make sure that's a very 300 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: very high bar for officers. 301 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: Did he I don't know? Will he be called in? 302 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: What happens now? 303 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: Another investigation, another possible criminal investigation, another fight of it. 304 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, I know. 305 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: And more concern ning is the reaction from folks who 306 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: live there. The residents who are now fed up, they 307 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: were fed up three weeks ago. 308 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: How are they going to feel now, you know? 309 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: And hearing Mayor Fry doesn't necessarily quiet some of that anger. 310 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz said just recently that he has 311 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: spoken out to the White House twice today, and he 312 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: said his first request is that ICE agents leave the state. 313 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: That's his first thing. 314 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: And then to say that state officials are going to 315 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: investigate this shooting, not the Feds. 316 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: He said, the Minnesota justice system will have the last 317 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: word on this. 318 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: We shall see about that because that has certainly not 319 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: been the case. 320 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: And there rene good investigator, you. 321 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: Said, those were his two requests to the White House. 322 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: His two requests of the White House were that leave 323 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Ice and the state wants to take on the investigation. 324 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: Did he say what the response was? 325 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: Right? 326 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: No, he did not add that something of note to 327 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: just about the concern about what comes next, what happens 328 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: next on the streets of Minneapolis. NBA just postponed a 329 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: game between the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Golden State Warriors. 330 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: It was supposed to take place this afternoon in Minneapolis. 331 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: And now they say, you know, what, We're going to 332 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: punt it to Sunday. 333 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: So is it weather related or it's no. 334 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: They said the decision was made to prioritize the safety 335 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: and security of the Minneapolis community. They are concerned about protests. Oh, 336 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: they are concerned about violence. So they have postponed the 337 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: NBA game scheduled for this afternoon and it's now going 338 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: to take place tomorrow at four thirty pm Central time. 339 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: What's the time on that announcement ago? Yeah, no, again, folks, 340 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: this has been We did not plan on hopping on 341 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: doing any breaking news today. In fact, we had an 342 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: idea of posting something else that was a little. 343 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: Light or fair for the weekending season. 344 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, some relationships on episodes, and unfortunately 345 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: we can't get away from this news. 346 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: This happened, so folks, we will hop back on if 347 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: any you know, any breaking news warrants, but just wanted 348 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: to hop on and give that update. It's always appreciate 349 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: you sticking with us on t J. Holmes on behalf 350 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: of Amy Robot. We will talk to y'all soon.