WEBVTT - Andor Season 2 (Episodes 7-9) Recap

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<v Speaker 1>Warning today's episode Canadid's spoilers for and Or episodes two,

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<v Speaker 1>O seven, two eight, and two nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jason Concepcion Han on Mersey Night and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to x ray Vision of the podcast where

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<v Speaker 2>In today's episode and Or and the creators Tony Gilroy

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<v Speaker 2>were obviously inspired by our three episodes a week because

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<v Speaker 2>they too are dropping three episodes a week, and this

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<v Speaker 2>week it is episodes seven, eight and nine, And if

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<v Speaker 2>you can believe it, it's just getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically getting every.

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<v Speaker 3>Chapter is getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>This is some of the best TV that we've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>all year and probably will stand as that.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode seven and Or season two we open a year

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<v Speaker 1>after episode six. It is now bby two. The Rebel

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<v Speaker 1>base that I know, we're so close. The Rebel base

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<v Speaker 1>at Yavin is a hub of activity. Ships are gathering powered.

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<v Speaker 1>We should add by the Crydo stolen by Saugre's cell.

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<v Speaker 1>Willman arrives on the planet Cassian and Bickx are already there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're camping in the woods. Willman comes in to break

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<v Speaker 1>up there snogging. They've been clearly spending some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like some personal time together, which is wonderful. Their love

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<v Speaker 1>affair is only growing and deepening, and they welcome him

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<v Speaker 1>back into the fold. Cassian has been injured at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>has been hit by a blaster and the shoulder, and

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie wants to know what where Will has been, what

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<v Speaker 1>he been working on, and Will says that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>answer right away, but he says Luthan wants to know

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<v Speaker 1>if you're ready to again. Are you ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>back into the field, And apparently Cassian has been ignoring

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<v Speaker 1>Lutheran's calls. As the rebellion is really beginning to look

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<v Speaker 1>like a real thing here on Yeavin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's has to look like what we see in other

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<v Speaker 2>Star Wars movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Cassian has kind of been caught up in that

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<v Speaker 1>energy and also like, I think, happy to spend time

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<v Speaker 1>just with Bicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the place where they're staying is so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of this mixture between like a treehouse and a.

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<v Speaker 3>Yum and nice, so calm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good it's very cozy, and I understand why,

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<v Speaker 2>and also Cassian feels like he's done enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think this is really interesting because we've been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Will's evolution and how far he's gone every year,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got to remember, this is a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>was on Ferix, who was basically a kid who until

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<v Speaker 2>the funeral in the final episodes of season one, had

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<v Speaker 2>he ever really done anything. Before he throws that grenade,

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<v Speaker 2>he becomes part of the rebellion, he becomes part of

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<v Speaker 2>Cassian's family. But here we see that Cassian is so

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Luthen loop that now essentially his younger

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<v Speaker 2>brother is the one who's giving him commands from Luthen.

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<v Speaker 2>So lots has changed here, but it's clear that Cassian

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<v Speaker 2>is becoming tired of the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Cassian suggests, like that Luthen come and see what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>on Yavin, because you know, they've been working towards us

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<v Speaker 1>so long. But Luthen's like, you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>security risk, like people are showing up all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know who these people are. Luthen's not gonna come,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cassian says, basically like I think I'm done sneaking around,

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<v Speaker 1>shooting people in the back in the dark. The fight

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<v Speaker 1>is going to happen in the broad daylight. Now with

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<v Speaker 1>the alliance, the rebel Alliance starting to strengthen, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that, we go to Gorman. It's even

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<v Speaker 1>worse than it was a year ago. Of course, tensions

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<v Speaker 1>are rising. Imperial propaganda has been very effective at branding

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<v Speaker 1>the Gorman Front as terrorism. Palmo is under curfew, Cyril

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<v Speaker 1>is there, but his he's the Front knows he's an

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<v Speaker 1>Imperial double agent, but he's still trying to like make

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<v Speaker 1>stuff happen somehow. He's Yeah, he's a desperate figure.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very desperate. He's hated by the Front everybody. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not particularly trusted by the ISB, and he's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find ways in his own twisted way to help the Front.

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<v Speaker 2>He like he's obsessed with this idea of an outside agitator.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we'll talk more about soon.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the life of a rat let. All rats

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<v Speaker 1>be warned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is what they this is what the show

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<v Speaker 2>is telling us. Is like, it is an unhappy place

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<v Speaker 2>to betray people. It is a lonely place to take

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<v Speaker 2>part in rat activities like this, like Tony is saying,

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<v Speaker 2>snitches get stitches, and maybe those are the stitches of

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<v Speaker 2>your autopsy.

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<v Speaker 1>You more on that in a bit. So Will has

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<v Speaker 1>been on Gorman, That's where he's been, and he lets

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie know this. Cassian thinks this is a waste, thinks

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's happening on Gorman is going to be They're

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<v Speaker 1>just wasting lives there on you know, get standing in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the Imperial tank and as the treads just

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<v Speaker 1>roll over people like, what's the point Luthan's next mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Will tells Cassian is Deirdre. She is the butcher of Feryx,

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<v Speaker 1>is on Gorman, running a false flag, running this whole

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<v Speaker 1>false flag operation. This is our chance to take her

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<v Speaker 1>off the board, and let's go kill her. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>Luthan wants to do. This is their best chance. We

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<v Speaker 1>go to Coruscant, part of gas Is, we go to Gorman.

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<v Speaker 1>Deirdre's on Gorman, zooming with part of gas He is like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just talked to the Emperor. He plaque fucking

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<v Speaker 1>loves love. Keep we gotta keep going with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, we looked around the galaxy, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>find any synthetic cal kite out there, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to mind Gorman for its cal kite, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course means the utter destruction of Gorman. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>need martial law, we need all that stuff. Deirdre, you're

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<v Speaker 1>running point on this. We're sending Captain Kaido, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a specialist in crisis. They call him their their crisis specialist.

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<v Speaker 1>And Deirdre is stressed out by all this and she

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<v Speaker 1>kind of doesn't want to go through with it. She's

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<v Speaker 1>having second or even third thoughts about like what her

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<v Speaker 1>what her role in this is, and what it means

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<v Speaker 1>to Gorman. And part of guys is like, don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't worry. This is you're gonna get. This is

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<v Speaker 1>great for your career promotion. The Emperor has its eyes

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<v Speaker 1>on this as a project he believes in, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>running point on it. This is great for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>then she's like, well you should know that the front

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<v Speaker 1>the rebels have weapons armed, and Party goes is like, good,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what we need all that war.

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<v Speaker 1>Cyril comes to see Deirdre, he like basically has to

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<v Speaker 1>break into the so the imperial offices because security is like, again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a lonely, isolated, desperate figure. He's been cut

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<v Speaker 1>loose by everybody, and he just feels like he's not

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<v Speaker 1>in the loop and he wants to be in the loop,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with Deirdre's someone who is a really disgusting but

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<v Speaker 1>strong emotional connection too. He's like, what you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>rebellion is active here, and why can't I do more? Like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the outside agitators are firing everybody up, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I can, you know, like I can be useful

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<v Speaker 1>to like expose that. Andre's like, Cyril, shut the fuck up,

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<v Speaker 1>go pack your bags. Okay, we're almost done here, just

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<v Speaker 1>shut up and get ready to fly off the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they kiss and she orders him to do

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<v Speaker 1>as told.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely interesting too because Deirdre gets she's her kind

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<v Speaker 2>of mission. This chapter is like, she's just focused on

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get to go home no matter what. We

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<v Speaker 2>have to just do anything so me and Cyril can

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<v Speaker 2>get to go home. And it's like, Babe, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you going home to? You're not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 2>run from what You'll do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Encoruscant Imperial spying on senators is increasing, especially the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who they believe aren't with the program. Man Mathma

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<v Speaker 1>is her assistant Erskine, who we saw speaking to Luthen

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago at the wedding party, and her are

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<v Speaker 1>discussing this and the fact that her driver is clearly

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<v Speaker 1>spying on her. She's like, I gotta fire this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and Erskin is like, no, no, don't fire him because

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<v Speaker 1>he's incompetent. The next guy might be good.

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<v Speaker 2>She's crazy, but I love that, right, Just this guy sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>Just like, just keep him on because you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what's going on. Don't get tricked by a bast by.

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<v Speaker 1>The news on Coursant is just Gorman, Gorman, Gorman, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's full on war on terror propaganda about how terrible

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<v Speaker 1>the Gores are and the rebellion there and all this.

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<v Speaker 1>Mathma arrives at the Senate and it's bad news after

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<v Speaker 1>bad news. Senator Oron of Gorman is like, things are

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<v Speaker 1>getting worse, We're getting we're isolated. The lies are really

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<v Speaker 1>taking a toll, and it's clear that Senator Oron is like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just desperate now, he doesn't you know, he's like

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<v Speaker 1>the only person he could talk to. Basically, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>building is Man, and Man is like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to put in a petition, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's clear that she wishes she could do more,

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<v Speaker 1>but like even doing this is very brave and right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now in the space, she's doing what she can publicly, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And Oran's like, just be careful to protect yourself On Gorman,

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<v Speaker 1>the Front is at each other's throat and each other's throats, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Like having a figure is in the lost gen definitely

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<v Speaker 2>come a little further, but they are still fighting, and they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Having how really vigorous debates about strategy and tactics and

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<v Speaker 1>how to how to be more active about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Someonet to be more active, someone will be more careful. Rylands,

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<v Speaker 1>who was so gung ho a year ago ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the transport heist, is now one of the more let's

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<v Speaker 1>be careful voices because having seen the toll of this

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<v Speaker 1>now now he's like, you know, it's a room full

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<v Speaker 1>of young people, including his daughter, and he's wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see them all die. And one of the Gorman Front

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<v Speaker 1>makes members makes a really important speech about their shared

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<v Speaker 1>history and their culture and how they're being wiped out

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<v Speaker 1>and now's the time to really try and do something,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that means.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting too, because Ryland's is definitely learning from

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<v Speaker 2>Cassian and Luthan, because what he really wants is for

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<v Speaker 2>everyone to do everything under the cover of darkness.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants to not fall for the obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>Perial try, don't fall for the trap, don't do the

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<v Speaker 1>thing they want, do the thing you want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know it feels like you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>this right now, but don't do the thing they're looking for.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's really sad to see, say how all.

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<v Speaker 2>He's listened to, but also sad to see how, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his ideals have kind of been broken over the loss.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, complete sadly Gorman is at the point

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<v Speaker 1>where you're they're going to lose. It's clearer, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>is it not. The argument you're having with yourself is like,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it better to do something and to be seen

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing something then and to like grasp onto

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<v Speaker 1>some shred of honor for your culture and your people,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than have it be said that you just got

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<v Speaker 1>rolled over and did nothing. You know, even though you

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<v Speaker 1>lose both outcomes on Yavin bis Kind of tricks casting

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<v Speaker 1>into going to see the Force healers.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, this made me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is this is like such an unexpected

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<v Speaker 1>and incredible scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Just an unbelievable Star Wars moment that we've never really

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<v Speaker 2>gotten to see before. And I was just so overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 2>by the entire scene and the introduction, the light introduction

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<v Speaker 2>of the Force, something that was never you know, meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of Rogue one, though.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course we had Force adjacent.

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<v Speaker 2>Characters like Chirum Bays, But yeah, this what a scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was important, I think because I love the Jedi,

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<v Speaker 1>have my criticisms. We we know, but like ideology is

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<v Speaker 1>only one way of viewing the Force, and clearly there

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of other ways, right, and we're seeing this

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<v Speaker 1>so uh Bis tries to givince Cassian to let them

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<v Speaker 1>help him. He feels set up, like were you taking

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<v Speaker 1>me here for this hocus focus? Like bullshit. The Force Healer,

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<v Speaker 1>who is working on somebody else like, immediately feels Cassian's

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<v Speaker 1>pain without knowing that he had arrived in the crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes over to him and she talks to

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<v Speaker 1>him a little bit. She knows that he's been hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the shoulder, she puts her hands over it and goes

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<v Speaker 1>to work on him, and then she like is like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for the clarity, which I took to mean

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<v Speaker 1>like the moral clarity of Cassian and what he is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, And I also think I think she can

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<v Speaker 2>feel that they're gonna win this mission, that she knows

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<v Speaker 2>what's gonna happen in Rogue, but in this very deep

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<v Speaker 2>seated place where she kind of can't really tell, but

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<v Speaker 2>she just knows this man is important and if he

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<v Speaker 2>stays in the fight, we are going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to win.

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<v Speaker 3>She just knows that.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, he's to Bis. You know, he's a messenger.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one place he needs to be, which again I

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<v Speaker 1>take to be Rogue one. Foreshadowing back on Gorman, Cyril

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<v Speaker 1>goes encounters Enza ry Lance's daughter in the street and

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<v Speaker 1>he tries to say, like, oh, the Empire is convinced

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<v Speaker 1>it is the front, but listen, I know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>outside agitators that are doing this. You get them, and

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<v Speaker 1>she slaps and walks off again, which is nice because

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<v Speaker 1>when people say outside agitators, I too want to slap them. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like this is it's so fascinating because Cyril,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you from? Are you from Gorman?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you here? Are you not?

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<v Speaker 1>Not a thing that you are talking about? And it

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<v Speaker 1>just shows like how people, It's such a wonderful encapsulation,

0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.680
<v Speaker 1>how people can get so lost in their own in

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<v Speaker 1>their own personal propaganda that they don't even realize like

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<v Speaker 1>what it is that they are doing. Later, back on Yavin,

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<v Speaker 1>Cassian's shoulder is improving and I told you what I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, And Cassian is like he doesn't believe in

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<v Speaker 1>the forest and all the force hokum. Cassians getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to leave for the Coruscant mission, so he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>grab a ship off the docks and General Draven, future

0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.000
<v Speaker 1>hero of the rebellion, he will he will perish on

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<v Speaker 1>Scariff with all the other rebels. Is like, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>just take ships and like don't log it in and

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell anybody where you're going, Like why do you

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<v Speaker 1>never check in? Like you're a professional, Yeah, we're a

0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.440
<v Speaker 1>professional army. Like I know that you've are doing other

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<v Speaker 1>things and that you're have been with a rebellion a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, but like we need to start acting like

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<v Speaker 1>a professional army. I'm so glad that they put these

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<v Speaker 1>tensions in between me too, these kind of the freewheeling

0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:50.800
<v Speaker 1>life of a spy when the resistance was completely underground,

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<v Speaker 1>to the more like, we've got to build up our

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<v Speaker 1>legitimacy as a thing that could truly, not just militarily

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<v Speaker 1>but politically, be a you know, antidote to the Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's really important, which Raven is saying,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they're.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and I think I'm arguing very telling that

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<v Speaker 2>Cassian's basically like, no, the moment someone tells me what

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, this is the battle between what Cassian,

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<v Speaker 2>why Cassian is great at what he does, but also

0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.480
<v Speaker 2>why his road is going to take him where it

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<v Speaker 2>takes him, because he's so centrally focused on the mission

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<v Speaker 2>and he's been so molded by Lutheran that he can't

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<v Speaker 2>really see the future. He can't see a better future.

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<v Speaker 2>What he can see is like the steps to take

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<v Speaker 2>that so other people might get to experience it, and

0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.400
<v Speaker 2>he's already done so much and we really feel that

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<v Speaker 2>weight on him in these three episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on Yavin, Velle is in camp. Now she comes

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<v Speaker 1>to see book. She says like, I'll be around it

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. I'm training. I'm out of the field,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm training the new recruits. She says that, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you should know that there's a lot of tension vis

0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a vis Cassian right now because he's one of the

0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:16.760
<v Speaker 1>most experienced fighters that we have and so Draven uh

0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:22.000
<v Speaker 1>future heroes of the Rebellion generals Draven and Dodnna. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to make him a general. I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen you don't have to do that much in the

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<v Speaker 1>rebellion to immediately become a general.

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<v Speaker 3>They just given everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody will be a general, and Cassian really, you know,

0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:43.600
<v Speaker 1>they would they need his leadership and him just taking

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<v Speaker 1>ships and leaving like it makes it hard to think

0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.240
<v Speaker 1>about making him a leader in that way, and he's

0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.159
<v Speaker 1>really needed. And Velle, for her part, is thrilled to

0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.840
<v Speaker 1>be out of the shadows. She's like really happy to

0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:01.720
<v Speaker 1>be part of a proper professional army now, and she

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<v Speaker 1>wants Bicks to convince Cassian that he should put away

0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the kind of like his shadow cloak and come into

0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the light and be part of this force because people

0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.120
<v Speaker 1>will really look up to him. The Imperial Curfew goes

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<v Speaker 1>into an effect on Gorman. Cassian arrives and he's like,

0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.640
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, like things are really crazy now. Will points

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<v Speaker 1>out the office building where Deirdre's been operating out of.

0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Cassian checks into the hotels. The guy who checks him

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<v Speaker 1>is the same guy who was his bell hop when

0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:40.760
<v Speaker 1>he was under the variant Sky identity, and the guy

0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:45.560
<v Speaker 1>clearly recognizes them, and there's these wonderful there's another one

0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.720
<v Speaker 1>of these later on in this episodes we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love the contrast between the rat with power

0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Cyril and the everyday person who's using whatever small amount

0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.600
<v Speaker 1>of agency they have to try and stop the machine.

0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And so this guy is one of these regular people

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<v Speaker 1>who's doing what they can and tells Cassian basically while

0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.000
<v Speaker 1>not blowing his cover, but letting him know, hey, I

0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:16.800
<v Speaker 1>remember you from last time. He's like, oh, your room

0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:18.560
<v Speaker 1>is going to be right on the square, which usually

0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.159
<v Speaker 1>people don't like. And by the way, every morning, we

0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.320
<v Speaker 1>have to give the list of all of our all

0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of our the people who stay here to the Empire,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has another woman sitting by and by the desk,

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<v Speaker 2>and he kind of lets Cassian know like she will Hondo. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's happening like there's no getting out of it,

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Like she's going to hand it over, so you better

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<v Speaker 2>be out all cathful.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cassie goes up to his room and he can

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<v Speaker 1>see right into the Imperial offices. Meanwhile, Will who listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Rebellion is a thing of passion and hope, and he's

0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 1>always fallen in love with somebody. So he's got a

0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:59.480
<v Speaker 1>new girlfriend, Drina, a young lady of the front. He

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<v Speaker 1>makes con tech with Cassian, and Cassian's unpacking his sniper

0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.560
<v Speaker 1>rifle and it's clear like his while this is going

0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 1>to be a very tough mission. There's snipe, there's stormtroopers everywhere,

0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.679
<v Speaker 1>on the roofs everywhere. It seems like Cassian's plan is

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna hit Deirdre as she walks across the

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.399
<v Speaker 1>square or in her office. Let's take a break and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go to episoding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're back. Episode A, We're back. We're in Gorman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the next morning. Cassian puts his rifle together. Then

0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.200
<v Speaker 1>he hears a commotion on the square and the Imperials

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.720
<v Speaker 1>are sealing it off. They're getting ready for something big.

0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:50.359
<v Speaker 1>On the Square, So Cassian tells Will and he says, listen,

0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going this Plan A is not really gonna work.

0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:57.000
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to figure something out. Deirdre calls Party

0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Gaz and she's increasingly alarmed. Mining hardware is already here.

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 1>What's going on now? This like Captain Kaito is doing

0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.159
<v Speaker 1>this fucking shit on the square and like, what is happening?

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Party guys is like, now is it time to incite

0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a violent reaction from the Gorman so we could crack down?

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what? What did you fucking think? Yeah?

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.479
<v Speaker 2>Like this was the planol along, babe, Like yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>in that since the beginning?

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.560
<v Speaker 1>What did you fucking think? Meanwhile, back on course, on

0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Edie's watching the Imperial News with growing alarm for what

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<v Speaker 1>it means for her beautiful baby boy rat who lives.

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Has been a beautiful baby rat gormant Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Protesters now are beginning to flock to the Square and

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.360
<v Speaker 1>talk of like a general strike and yeah, we're gonna

0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>go there in peacefully protest. Papa Rylands is like, no, no, no,

0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:53.400
<v Speaker 1>We're being lured into a trap. This is so many

0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.439
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna die, and he argues with his daughter,

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.119
<v Speaker 1>like about like don't you see, like, what's what they

0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.080
<v Speaker 1>want you to do this? So don't do the thing

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that they want. And she's like, well, how can we

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, how can we how do we do nothing?

0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 1>How can I tell these people to do nothing? And

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.880
<v Speaker 1>as the crowds grow, you could see that there's members

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:18.200
<v Speaker 1>of the Front armed who are among the protesters. Cassian

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.400
<v Speaker 1>goes down there because he's going to have to improvise.

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:25.919
<v Speaker 1>He puts his gun under his coat. Rylands see Cyril

0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 1>in the crowd and he confronts him and he's like,

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>how dare you rat walk a walk among us after

0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 1>all you've done? In Cyril again is try to say, look, no, listen,

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but like I have a lot of information.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know it's not outside agitators and like and

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I know, you just get them to believe it. There's

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.360
<v Speaker 1>all these lies out there, and it's these outside you're

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:50.360
<v Speaker 1>saying that there's mine equipment here and all this stuff.

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 1>And Ryland's asks Cyril, what do they want from us?

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.160
<v Speaker 1>What do they want from the stuff out of the ground,

0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Like why, why? Why is the mining equipment here? What

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 1>do you want from us? And Cyril clearly is for

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 1>as much as he seems in this moment to be empathizing,

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>In is in a completely mistaken way with the front.

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I also think what he's trying to do is like

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>prove to Deirdre, like, look, I can still get information,

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Like let me back in to the loop. Cassian, as

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 1>he's checking out the clerk, tells him, PS, I never

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 1>checked you in. I didn't put you on them. Yeah,

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 1>I didn't put you on.

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<v Speaker 3>The gumming up that system, gumming up that machine.

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 1>And he then tells him Jinn's line from Rogue one

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>that rebellions are built on hope, and they wish each

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>other well and they head off things. The square, all

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the while is getting more intense. Tie fighters now or

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 1>buzzing the square. Cassian sees Deirdro overlooking the square and

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>he's thinking, oh, maybe I can get a shot through,

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, through this crowd. Uh Grewish, who is basically

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Deirdre's like left tenant, is able to get Cerril into

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the building. There's a bunch of Kate extroids there now

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>clearly we're getting ready to meet Katuso. At some point,

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>one of them stares down Cyril, which is this I

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>love this moment because clearly, like the Imperial droids are

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>still these are Imperial terminators. But I think it's I

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's a measure of how isolated Cyril feels. It's

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>almost like his own.

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 4>Pain, Like the robots are against him.

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everybody is against him. Everybody doesn't trust him.

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 2>And we get this really great moment too with one

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 2>of the Fox News kind of guys, the Imperial Fox News,

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 2>who's like that all there peacefully protesting and he's like,

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 2>look at this insurrection like it's thedest, Like he's.

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 4>He's already telling the Empire's story.

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:58.120
<v Speaker 2>When what people can see on the screen is different

0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:00.199
<v Speaker 2>from what he's telling them. And that idea of an

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 2>objective truth and losing an objective truth is a huge

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 2>theme running for this huge episode.

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Cyril gets into the room with Deirdre and he confronts

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>her and he's asking me, like what have you done?

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>What I'm here in mining equipment? Like is the Empire

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>actually doing this? Like is this actually us? And Deirdre's like, listen,

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>we're just following orders and this will all be over soon,

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and how he's getting really really mad. He's like, how

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>long did you know about this. He's he's been made

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.880
<v Speaker 1>to feel that he's been a fool, and he gets

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>really mad. He wraps his hands around Deirdre's neck and

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:42.120
<v Speaker 1>he's squeezing, and then he stops and didre. Deirdre tells

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.919
<v Speaker 1>Cyril that the stuff in the ground is stuff the

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 1>empire needs and when we get it, we're going home

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>as heroes. So just again, get with the program. It

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>was gonna happen anyway, she says, So what does it

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 1>matter that we're involved, like it was gonna happen if

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>we're not here gonna happen. It's gonna happen when where

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, go with it. We may as well

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>take credit for Yeah, we might as well benefit. He

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>storms off. She's really shaken by this. Ceryl goes out,

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I guess to try and do something, but he just

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of gets lost by the events in the crowd.

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Deirdre tells Garrish to detain him, but is he's out

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>there and it's too late. Partigas car part of gas

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>orders Deirdre basically begin the massacre, and Deirdre is questioning

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>whether she should relay that order, but she absolutely does.

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>She's like, yeah, yeah, in a way.

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I almost feel like this is such they do such

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 2>a good job here, and it's this kind of like

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>for a moment, I was.

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Like, is she is she questioning? And I felt I

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 3>think she is a little.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 2>But I also think it's like anticipation of understanding that

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 2>when she makes the call, like everything's gonna change, you know,

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>she thinks she's now going to be a hero.

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about this before the mics went on.

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that this showed us such an incredible job,

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and this is one of I think Tony Gilroy's like

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>one of his techniques. One of his moves is to

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>show you that evil, that fascism, which is this is

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>a very Unstar Wars thing, but that like these people

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>are human. They wonder if they're doing They're not some

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>inherently evil robot. They they're like, oh my God, like

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't do this, but in the end they end

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>up doing it, you know. I use the example of

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Michael Clayton, which is a movie I talk way too

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>much about.

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>But now we love Michael Clayon, we do. We can

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 2>talk too much about it.

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>But till the Swinton's character, who is like the lead,

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>who is the in house attorney for this terrible chemical company.

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Like when we meet her, she's nervously practicing a speech

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and like putting her hand into her armpit and wondering

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>if she's sweating too much. And it's like we get

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to see how this person who's about to go out

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 1>and do the most terrible shit is a human, frail person,

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think we get those moments with Deirdre, and

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it's really really powerful.

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 4>It's really good stuff.

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>So the crowd is now singing the Gorman Marseillae or

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 1>whatever their you know, their version of the Marseillaie is,

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and the order is relayed for the Imperial troops to begin.

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>And the false flag is really diabolical. So an Imperial

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>sniper snipes one of their own troops and that's how

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>it sets it off. The massacre begins and it's just

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>like a fire. It's just a brutal suppression of the gores.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Some of the front are fighting back, but people are

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 1>falling all over the place. I mean, it's like an awful, awful,

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>awful death hole. Kaido is pleased. Deirdre goes out to

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the balcony to look for Cyril. She's very worried about this,

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>they send the k Extroids into the frame and.

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 2>This is some awful, horrifying stuff. I think you're absolutely right.

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 2>They are the Star Wars terminate to that. Yea, they're

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>uns they you can't do anything about them, Like we've

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>never really gotten to see them in full imperial.

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Mode, and it is truly horrifying.

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>They are like snapping people's backs, They're throwing people against

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 2>wolves that anything you can do, you cannot do it

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>to them, like they are basically untouchable.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Enza Rylance's daughter is thrown clear across the square and

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:34.959
<v Speaker 1>killed by this chaos ride. And as the fighting has

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>taking place, the clerk gets to has a grenade somehow

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and he takes out a squadron of smallshoopers with it.

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>And Cyril again has just been like hypnotized by this violence,

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>but he snapped out of it when he sees Cassion

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and he recognizes him and remembers him from the age

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the Axis Hunt and he attacks him and it's a brutal,

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>brutal fight.

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems like this is I found very interesting

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 2>because I think that generally they have tried to portray

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Cyril as pretty submissive, submissive to his mother submissive to Deirdre,

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 2>but in this episode we see him kind of trying

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>to find some semblance of independence, and for him that

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 2>does mean violence.

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 3>He attacks Deirdra, Yeah, he chokes her.

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 2>And then we see this fight with Cassium, which in

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, should have been a one sided fight that

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Cassian immediately won, but instead the first thirty forty seconds

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Cyril is fucking smacking his head against the ground.

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 4>He is like going for his eyes.

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Like to Cyril, I think in that moment he is

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 2>blaming Cassian for everything if he hadn't I had this

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 2>very comfortable happen.

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had this very comfortable job with the Bureau

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of Standards, and then I got involved with hunting for you,

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and now I'm here isolated and everybody hates me and

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>heat and he explodes. He gets a drop on Cassi

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and gets his rifle. He's about to shoot him. Cassian

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>is like, who the fuck are Like, Cassie doesn't even

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>know who the fuck are you? And then Papa Rylance

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>pops Cyril's rat head off.

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Boom, just straight off, just shout it up like boom.

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>People are streaming away from the square. Now it's it's

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just a blood bath in there and.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>At least some people getting trampled on her. The last

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>case scenario.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Wilman and Cassian managed to find each other and they're like,

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>we gotta we have to leave now. And Woman's like,

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't you know my girlfriend is here, Like I

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know where she is. She's right now on the

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>radio actually calling through any open channel that she can

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>find across the gallaxy and tell people like we're being slaughtered.

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>We're on Gorman, We're being slaughtered. The Empire is killing us. Now,

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>there's bodies on the ground like help us. Meanwhile, the

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>k Ex droids are rampaging and they and they start

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>rampaging towards Woman and Cassian. They stand and fight. They're like, well,

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna die, but we got to shoot at this

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>thing so it doesn't kill the unarmed people. And just

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>as it's about to kill Cassian and Willman, it gets

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>run over in a by a transport driven by one

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>of the members of the front sam I believe. Yeah.

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Cassian then gets a big idea like, Okay, we've got

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>to flee the planet, but use the you know, use

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the tools of the beast to attack the beast. Maybe

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>we can get some value at at this k xtroid.

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:23.959
<v Speaker 3>I mean, bring me that joid.

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>So I think that if you're wondering when we're gonna

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>meet K two S. So here he is, baby, this

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>is pre pre unbrainwashing k K two S.

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>So meanwhile, Deirdre is Deirdre's like hand is like shaking,

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>She's upset, and it's like, okay, bitch, what do you think?

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like, what do you mean she's having a panic attack.

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, babe, you literally.

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Have been like foaming at the mouth for this massacre.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Like live it up, enjoy it, because like what the.

0:32:52.760 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Fuck imperial propaganda, you know whatever. Whoever hears Drina's message,

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>they are vastly outnumbered by the people who are being

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>poisoned by the imperial propaganda that I that this was a.

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Terrorist interrorist against the empire. They killed all these innocent people.

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Are the heroes? Are imperial heroes have fallen again?

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, as as we've said throughout this series, definitely

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 2>no real life allegories, this is all fictional. Doesn't doesn't

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>feel particularly relevant right now, Tony, Tony go, we thought

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>the tone zone the turns we're in it.

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Uh, And Edie back on Coruson is watching this and

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>she's like weeping, not knowing that her rat son has died.

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>But what but worried that.

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>The Rats scene made pretty sure, Like I think she's

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 2>feeling it in the fourth Uh, let's know.

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I told him he should go there.

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Liz is tak a quick reak and we'll come back

0:33:52.560 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>with the episode Episode nine. Things are coming to a

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>head now. The Gorman massacre has happened. The news is

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>rippling across the galaxy en Coruscant Senator Senator Orrin of

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Gorman is arrested on zero charges just because it's a

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>due process, no due process. He's being taken away. He's

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>screaming at at all these people who are just watching

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.720
<v Speaker 1>it happen, like you're you realize, like you're next, your next.

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, He's like, he's like, if you don't do anything

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>like this will happen to you. Yes, if one person

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have due process and doesn't have.

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 4>Rights, then none of you do.

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Man and Bail, in hushed tones, are talking about this.

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>They are shocked at the Empire would stoop to this level.

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Mon is insistent, like I'm going to take the floor

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to speak out about it.

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 2>Dude, I got to say this is really funny because like,

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 2>this is such an important moment and this episode is

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>so great, but these two are both so fine that

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 2>whenever they talk together, I'm just like, wow, that's so hot.

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Bail Logan, this is like you guys have.

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Who I completely agree. This is a this is a

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a this is a detour.

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:20.720
<v Speaker 1>But I think one of the wonderful and weird surprises

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of like Rogue one to and or season one to

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and Season too is the my developing feelings for Mon Mathma,

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>who I just find wonderful. Mon call me anyway. So uh,

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm gonna take the floor and be like

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>they're never gonna fucking let you. But implicit in all

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>of this is I think something really important which Mon recognizes,

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and that is as vile and powerful as the Empire

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>seems right now, they've made a grievous error in doing this.

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>They've made a can't pretend this is.

0:35:59.360 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Mon says, Okay, I'm gonna speak out, but then we

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>need to flee you and I Bail, we need to

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>get out of here, and Bail's like, I can't because

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:12.439
<v Speaker 1>reasons I can't tell you about Akam harboring Darth Vader's daughter,

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>which nobody do.

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to rewatch everyone.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 3>I love that version of Leah so much fantastic, So.

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I so I and it's not. Mon feels betrayed, and

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he's like, listen, this isn't me chickening out. This isn't

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like there's something else, is it betrayal? This is okay,

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you about it, but it's a real thing.

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>And also the rebellion isn't quite ready to really step

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>out into the light, but they do need your leadership.

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna stay behind and you go. And she's like,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be a hostage. They're just gonna use you,

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and and you're gonna be a prisoner and probably be executed.

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And he says like, don't worry, I've made arrangements for

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you to leave. Right after you make your speech, Clia

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>tells Cassian who that you're going to stay under your

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.479
<v Speaker 1>mid rim Uh news cover and you're going to be

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>covering events in the Senate as the Senate response to

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the what I don't know what the Imperial is called

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the Gorman Mascaret, but they probably call it like the

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Gorman Insurrection and the Gorman the Gorman Attack or something. Uh.

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Cassian says, listen after this, I'm done. I'm not this

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>man's always done, by the way, You're not done, You're

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>not dumb.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 4>I wish you could be done, but it ain't true.

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>And Claia, who I've love, is increasingly like, but what

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>does that mean? Your feelings got hurt? Like you're tired,

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>You're tired. I'm so fucking sorry for you. Do you

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>not like understand what we're doing here?

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 3>And she gives people.

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.240
<v Speaker 1>And Cassian is like, listen, Luthen will know what I'm mean.

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 1>And Clay gives him more shit, and she's like, listen, man,

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Matha is about to risk her life to make the

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>most important speech in galactic history, and you're gonna save

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>her life, okay? And you want out? And he's like,

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I just I need to start making my own decisions, okay,

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>whatever that means. Erskine. In man Mathma's office finds a bug,

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>which is very concerning. She smashes it. Also like the

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Imperial bugs are like the size of like an asthma

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>so huge.

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 2>There's a day like a chunky brick Nokia, like a

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Nokia three ten or something. I love when she smashed

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 2>it too, but I also I love to fury. But

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 2>also I'm like, Mon, you should have known to just

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>keep the bug that and only talk about things that

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 2>lead them in the wrong way.

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 3>That's the what you really do.

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 4>And there's a bug, come on.

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>So the ICP is now flag Mon because they immediately

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 1>lose the bug and they're like, uh oh. Mon tells

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>her Skin keep looking for bugs. I'm gonna go outside

0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and practice my speech. Luthen, which feels like a very

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>dangerous move, meets her there and he tells her, listen, Mon,

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I have something important to tell you. Erskin works for me.

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I recruited him at the wedding. He's been protecting you,

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>but he couldn't tell you that he works for me.

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 1>And Man is upset now, and she's you know, we

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>saw the isolation of Cyril, and now you see Mon

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>on the edge. She's about to take this incredible step

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>into that's at once incredibly courageous and will open her

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>up to all sorts of like dangerous reprisals and the

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>people who have been supporting her, have been working with her,

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>have also been hiding things from her. So she feels

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 1>she's very, very vulnerable and bewildered. Right now, Lusen tells

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Mon that listened more distressing news for you. Baylor Ghana's

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>circle has been penetrated. I know why. We'll find out why. Well,

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 1>why is because Donnie told him. Lonnie knows about it

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>because the agent that the ISB sent to penetrate Bail's

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>circle works for Lonnie. Solanie had to do that, but

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 1>he immediately went and told Luthan. So whatever you do,

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>don't go with his people. After the speech, he tells Mon,

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>but you can't tell anyone, and don't even tell Bail

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that you know this because this could blow up his

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Lonnie source. Like whatever you do, don't you know that's

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the most important sources that the rebels have

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>right now, directly to the ISB leadership. And Mon is

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>again she's like emotionally, she's unmoored by all these developments

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>in the stress and she's like, to remember, Tay take Homa,

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>my old boyfriend, the banker who helped us longer the money,

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>and then you killed him. And she's basically saying, like,

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.240
<v Speaker 1>is this what it's come to, like when when someone's

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>not of use anymore, they're seen as a slightly a

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 1>risk without thinking about like what their other value is

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>like as a human, as a person, Like we just

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>we just cut them loose now. And she's very scared.

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>She says, I'm more scared of you than I am

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>of the Empire right now, which is a crazy thing

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 1>to say.

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, but at the same time, I get it. Yeah,

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that stealin scars. God brings that energy to

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 2>this interaction where there is a desperation and a kind

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 2>of you can sense the horrors that he has committed

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>for the rebellion. And this is not the side of

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Luthan that she usually sees. She usually sees like societal Luthan,

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Luthan the art dealer. But now she's seeing Luthan the

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>man who will just shoot.

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Someone in the head.

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 4>If Luthan the operator danger exactly.

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>And Luthen says, listen, I get it, but I'm sending

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>someone I trust to get you off Coruscant. He will

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>give you the password. I have friends everywhere. Go with him.

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Do not go with bails people. Mon's driver is busy

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>ratting her out to the ISB and saying she's staying

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>late at the Senate House. She doesn't know often do this,

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>so the ice bat tech is like passing this report

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>on and this, including the fact that the bug is down,

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 1>really means that they're watching her. She goes back to

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.439
<v Speaker 1>her office. She tells Erskine, like, you're fired. How could

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you do this to me? Like, I feel betrayed about you,

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and Erskine is like, well, it was the honor of

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>my life to serve you. And okay. Luthen meets Cassian

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and clea. No one knows what Mon is going to

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>do now because all of these developments and the fact

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 1>that she feels betrayed by Luthen and what's she going

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.760
<v Speaker 1>to do? Erskine doesn't know either. Luthen says that after

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the speech, I am staying on course. I will not

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>be evacuated to yeah, and I still have things to

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>do here, important things. And Cassian is like, they're going

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to find you, They're going to find you out, and

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Luthen says he basically says, I know that that's the

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>outcome at some point, but I still have things to

0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>do here.

0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it hawks back to his speech.

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 2>He knew he's never gonna survive to see the brave

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:06.240
<v Speaker 2>New world. And now we are only two years away

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>from the Battle of Yavin, so he's gonna die soon

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 2>because he doesn't get to see that, you know, And

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy.

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>One of the things I love about Rogue one and

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and or season one and two is it shows you that, listen, Luke,

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Luke took the ball in on the five yard line

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and ran it into the end zone right, and it

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>was very important. We all love Luke Skywalker for everything

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>he did for the rebellion, but there were a million

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>different other little interactions with little things that needed to

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 1>happen to get Luke to that moment. And I love

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>how this all comes from mon Mathma's original. You know,

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.280
<v Speaker 1>many Bothams died to get us this information.

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's one of the most interesting. And sorry

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 2>to super producer Aaron, I do love Rogue one and

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>the discord. That has been a great topic of conversation.

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 2>So we're loving you guys, are loving your wrong friend.

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 2>But the truth is that I think Tony Gilroy with

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Roguwan I'm with these series makes this unbelievable statement about

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 2>the reality of like who gets celebrated after a war,

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 2>who gets celebrated when evil is taken down.

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>That's such a good point and that's a big part

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>of the end of this episode. I can't wait to

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about that. So the Senate House is filling up.

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Cassion comes in as his reporter I D. They're like, well,

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:32.919
<v Speaker 1>we no one your your outlet didn't check you in,

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:34.839
<v Speaker 1>but fine, Like you're just gonna have to float around.

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't have a spot. Yeah. Meanwhile, Organa's folks are

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>prepping their plan to whisk her away, and we don't

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>know which one of them is the ISB agent. The

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>ISB now knows that they've gotten information that certain senators

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.800
<v Speaker 1>may try to speak out about Gorman, but the ISB

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>chief on site is not too worry about it. He's like, well,

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>they've been ordered, the speaker's been ordered not to let

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>it speak, so's don't worry about it. Bail tells Mom, Hey,

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>my team is ready leave with them the moment you're

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>done speaking Gate nine.

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 4>She is.

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't say anything about what Luthen told her, but

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>she's like, do you trust them? And she's like, yeah, totally.

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, do you know them, and she's and

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>he's like, no, not personally.

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 2>So this is in that case a Luthan's guy. Luthen

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't trust many people. So if he says he trusts

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:24.359
<v Speaker 2>this guy going Luthen.

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 1>In the Senate, how speaker after speaker after speaker is like,

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Gorman is bad, Gorman is bad, Gorman is bad? Are

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 1>imperial heroes? They gave their life blah blah blah blah blah.

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, on they're on the fucking ticket.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Now they're just on the mail ticket saying all the

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 4>lies that they want to say because they're scared.

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.280
<v Speaker 1>But they are still complicit. Some of them are scared

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and complicit. Some of them truly believe it, and some of.

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Them, some of them are probably getting money.

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Meanwhile, the IB agent in Bail's group is revealed.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>As they are they're gathering their weapons from their hit

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>is spy may he starts making a call to like

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 1>isb headquarters? And so yeah, I'm with him. And then

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the one of Bail's people's like what was that?

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:12.879
<v Speaker 1>What are you? And so she has to kill him.

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 4>She should have just been like, oh, it's the rebellion. Yeah,

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 4>oh it's bail ogana.

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Like come on, meanwhile, bail uses some uh it uses

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>like Decree A seventeen twenty five which the Emperor himself

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 1>put in, which allows a senior senator to speak in

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a time of crisis, and that is manman the isb

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>is like su shut the feet down, like shut it

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 1>down before she could speak, So they're trying to do that.

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:42.280
<v Speaker 1>And Mom makes her speech in which she lays bare

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>all the lies about Gorman and how and she lay

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>she's like building to this incredible climax while and basically

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>lays it all at the feet of the empire. The

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil, she says,

0:46:56.640 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 1>And like who is the great evil behind them? The

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>monster screaming the loudest, the monster we helped create as

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Emperor Palpatine. And she says, this is like the feet

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 1>is about to be about to be cut.

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.839
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, well, let's talk about how it was how

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 2>she was able to speak for that long, because you

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 2>made some great points about the gumming up the machine kind.

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Of well, I think it's like such it's one of

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the most vital points I think about this show, about

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>how regular people can use whatever power they have and so,

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and contrasting that with the life of the rat Cirrial.

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.279
<v Speaker 1>There's those two workers at the Senate House who are

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>just like whatever, low level like workers. They have the

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>keys to the room where the broadcast hardware is, and

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 1>they're the Empire is trying to get in there to

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.359
<v Speaker 1>like shut the feet off, and they're just like, well,

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.320
<v Speaker 1>we don't we we did our job. We gave the

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 1>key to this person, so we eat the door. We fit, yeah,

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and so we can't open it. We don't know where

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the keys are. Sorry, And it's clear that they are,

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:04.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, in some unspoken way, collaborating with each other

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to do this. They give each other a very knowing look.

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's one of the it's this moment

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the clerk at the hotel. These are like very important

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>things to to acknowledge that the rebellion wasn't just the

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Luke or the pilots and the X wings. It was

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like all these little people or even also just normal

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>people doing everything.

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 2>And that's why people they heat the Imperial kind of

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 2>like you know, servant whatever. This guy is, this low

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 2>level guy. He only manages to shut one's speech off

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.479
<v Speaker 2>after she's called said the whole sk and she said

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>it was Emperor Palpatine and then he cuts the feet off.

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 2>So without those two women, that speech would never have

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 2>been able to happen. And I think, yeah, that's this.

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>These little moments just totally moved me.

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 3>It was very episode.

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was. It's very powerful, and it's something

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 1>for people to realize. It's like you, you can do

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 1>something you and if it's small things. Cassian makes contact

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 1>with Mon right as she's coming off the floor, and

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Mon's like, you know, she doesn't know who he is,

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and she's reeling. She realizes now that this is the

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>end for her, this is the end of her career

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>as a senator, that might be the end of her life,

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and she doesn't know who this person is. He gives

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>her the password. I have friends everywhere, and you know,

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Cassian is insistent. He's like, the Ice B's ordered your

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 1>arrest and we need to go. And I know what,

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Luthen is a fucking asshole, but he's right, and I'm

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>here to protect you. They get to the bottom of

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the elevator, reporters are swarming Mon. The ISB agent in

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Bails group, who's now basically the point person pretending to

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>be bail Or. Ghana's person comes and she kind of

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 1>blows it right away. She pulls her gun out. It's like,

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>isb You're under arrest. Cassian shoots her, and Cassian whisks

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 1>man away and as Erskine is like, I'll stay back

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'll buy time, and it's a crazy chase. The

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 1>building is being locked down. The icebe learns that their

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>agent is down, and this is where we learned that

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 1>that agent was one of Lonnie's. So again, how this

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 1>is how Luthan knew about it.

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Good job, Lonnie, because you obviously sent an incompetent person.

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Lonnie's doing competent.

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 2>She blew it, Lonnie. I think your family's going to

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 2>be okay. I know Luthen was, you know, threatening them.

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:21.879
<v Speaker 2>He's that must suck. But you did a good.

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Job Himnie is Lannie is really really doing great. The

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>life of you know, a reverse rat whatever the reverse

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:39.399
<v Speaker 1>version of the serial is Cassian kills Bond's driver because

0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:40.760
<v Speaker 1>he look, he does I will.

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Say, look, I'll give Cassian a little bit of prop

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, because he basically does try and like he's

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 2>like how far can we get? Like will he play

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 2>the game? Because he's like, oh, we found her, let's

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 2>get her safely away and the driver immediately is.

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Like who are you.

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 2>So Cassie is like, shit, just got to shoot you

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 2>in the head. He's like, you could have played the

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:00.439
<v Speaker 2>game man, So they speed away long.

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Mon is obviously like terrified.

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 2>She's starting to see the real rebellion. Yes, this is

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the the rebellion.

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 1>So on Yavin Bell begins her training of the recruits

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:14.359
<v Speaker 1>and we see that one of them is Melchi, who

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to be one of the marines who dies

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>with all of the other rebels on Scariff. Yeah. Cassian

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>brings Mon to the safe house, the Corussant safe house,

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 1>when Erskine and Clay are there. He goes back to

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 1>see Will, who was injured back on Gorman and he's

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:36.479
<v Speaker 1>there with Drina and Will is in bad shape. Clay

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 1>tells Mon that Lusen is safe, so the network is

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>fine for now. Mon says to Cassian like, how do

0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I thank you? And he just says, make it worth it.

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Cassian gets Drina and Will to Yavin and updates Draven

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 1>about everything that happened, and then Draven tells Cassian this

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 1>is really important because he also he brought Man in,

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I assume. But but you said about how important messaging

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>is and how important it is for the rebellion to

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 1>step out into the light and the right way, And

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>so the cover story for what actually happened is going

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to be that gold Squadron of the Rebellion delivered Man

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to Yavin and rescued her, not that this ragtag spy

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:26.800
<v Speaker 1>never didn't know. This is how we're going to announce

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to the galaxy that the rebellion is a real thing

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and we're capable of being an antidote and an answer

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>to the Empire.

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 2>And if you were like inspired by Mon's speech, then

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 2>be on the side of the rebellion, because that's the

0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 2>side she is on.

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought this was such an important thing to put

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 1>in because at the same time as Man is saying

0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>we have to call out the lies when we see them,

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 1>when we know their lives, the Rebellion is also saying,

0:52:56.880 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 1>in a kind of pragmatic way, listen, this isn't true

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the way Man was rescued. But in order to show

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 1>people that were strong enough to do this, we need

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:15.359
<v Speaker 1>to tell this lie. And yeah, it's an important thing

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.440
<v Speaker 1>to think about because I don't know that it's I

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's the right decision.

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I understand why they're for the bigger yes, for the

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 2>bigger rebellion picture. But I also do think again, Tony's

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 2>making that commentary on like, who are the people who

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:32.839
<v Speaker 2>don't get the recognition, Who are the people who do

0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 2>the hard work, who are willing to do the scary things,

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:39.319
<v Speaker 2>who you know, in history would only be recognized like

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:42.319
<v Speaker 2>fifty years later and someone found some journal about them

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 2>or something. And I think it's interesting that he's keeping

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 2>that fucking real.

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's very real. And so Draven is like, listen, Mon,

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the story is going to be gold Squadron rescuer, and

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 1>then Man is going to make another speech that will

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>bring the galaxy to our side. And so it's basically

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Draven saying, hey, I recognize what you did, Cassian, but

0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it's never going to be part of the main narrative. Ever.

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Cassian goes home to Bix and tells Bix like, that's it.

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm done, I'm not doing this anymore.

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Which, honestly, fab because he did the big thing today.

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 3>He's done so much in his.

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Life and today he did the thing and he saved

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Mon and if I was Bix and I was Cassian,

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I too would say it's done.

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 3>I've done what I have to do.

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Let me leave.

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 1>And he says, let's just find like whatever quiet corner

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.960
<v Speaker 1>of the galaxy there still it is, and just go

0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:36.239
<v Speaker 1>there and be done with it. You know. He's like,

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I've rolled the dice so many times and I feel

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 1>like my luck is run out, Like I can't keep

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.480
<v Speaker 1>rolling the dice, and nothing is worth more than this,

0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 1>he says, which is like their relationship together. But when

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>he wakes up, Bix is gone. She leaves him a

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 1>video message basically saying, you're too important to the rebellion

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the force healers feel it that you're going to play

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a crucial role in defeating the Empire, and I can't

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 1>be the reason that you stop doing it. So I

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:09.200
<v Speaker 1>have to go away from you until the fight is done,

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll be together. It's heartbreaking. Cassian runs to

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the landing paths, but she's gone, Gone, gone. And later

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Cassian watches as the rebel engineers are rebooting the hypothetically

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>reprogrammed k extry. Nobody knows if it's going to work right,

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and they turn it on and it's ky and we

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:34.280
<v Speaker 1>realize that it's K two s O born or reborn

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in this in this moment.

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 2>And we get the great Allentic voice as yes, wonderful

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Cassium with this gun pointed at KOs two K two

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:48.799
<v Speaker 2>s O and Alentini's voice. Sorry if I offended you

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:52.280
<v Speaker 2>in some way, But could I ask that you lower

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:55.759
<v Speaker 2>your gun? And and you know sure has and has

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Cassian lost Bix? Yes, but does he now have his

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 2>other forever part and a K twos so orso?

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:03.759
<v Speaker 2>So we can that can warm our hearts as we

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:07.279
<v Speaker 2>cry for Cassian and his love that he will never

0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 2>see again. Jason, Yes, what about this episode?

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Has you been I mean all of these, this tranch

0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of episodes, this chapter is just incredible. It's like it's

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I think, take it all together, seasons one and two.

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:29.799
<v Speaker 1>This the recency bias, I'm calling it out. Yeah, this

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:33.280
<v Speaker 1>could be objectively the best Star Wars.

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so too. I've ever I see I

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 3>think so too.

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it understands what George Lucas loved about Star Wars.

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it understands the way that politics shapes the

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:51.200
<v Speaker 2>world of Star Wars and often is more impactful than

0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:55.080
<v Speaker 2>somebody with the lightsaber. I think the cast is unbelievable.

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And while those three, the three episodes set on the

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 2>prison in and Or season one, are probably my favorite

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars ever. But I think consistency wise, I think

0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the quality and kind of themes and writing and production

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 2>on this season, I think it might be edging out

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:19.479
<v Speaker 2>season one quality. I think, like, I think it's better

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 2>season one, which is crazy, it doesn't exist without season one,

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:26.120
<v Speaker 2>and we love season one, but I would yeah, I'm

0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 2>We've got three episodes left, which we're going to be

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 2>talking about, you know, next week. But for me, I

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 2>just I think it's it's there, man, Like every episode

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 2>is better, and every emotional beat hits at this point,

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:43.240
<v Speaker 2>and it's just even like, look, this is not the

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:45.959
<v Speaker 2>kind of show where people are like looking for Easter

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 2>eggs or a deeply excited by came.

0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and when mel she showed up, it may my

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 4>heart like jumped.

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 3>That was And I also.

0:57:57.480 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Joelle put this in the question, and I think put

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 2>this in the chat, and I think this is a

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 2>good point. Is this version of and Or does it

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 2>feel better because of the release schedule.

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 3>I think the answer is yes.

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I think so.

0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 3>I think they'd have.

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Done the chapters in the arcs last time, it would

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:15.160
<v Speaker 2>have been way way more easily digested by the general

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:15.960
<v Speaker 2>viewing audience.

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree, and I think it listen Obviously, it's also

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 1>meeting the moment in a in a wider societal sense,

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's the chapter kind of release schedule, which you know,

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I think is at least partially driven by the fact that, again,

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 1>this is like a very low rated show, uh just.

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 2>On pure when it comes to how many people watch

0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 2>this obviously very critically acclaimed, but.

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that it also you know, it feels like

0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it feels like a tale, Like I kept thinking this

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 1>must have been what it was like to read A

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Tale of Two Cities when it was coming out in

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:05.240
<v Speaker 1>serial form, Like you're absolutely, it's incredible drama, it's incredible

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:11.520
<v Speaker 1>social commentary. It feels of the moment, and uh, it's

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it's incredible. It's just so jaw droppingly outrageously good, with

0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>so much to think about in there.

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think the chapters make the themes incredibly clear.

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I think there is like a clarity to each chapter

0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:34.960
<v Speaker 2>essentially being about something else and not just narratively but

0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:38.280
<v Speaker 2>also thematically, like the theme of truth and having an

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 2>objective truth and losing truth and double think and all

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that kind.

0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 4>Of Awwellian.

0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Reality that we're living through. That is what this chunk

0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:50.240
<v Speaker 2>of episodes is about. And I think that when you

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:53.320
<v Speaker 2>break them up like this, it's giving the audience a

0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:57.840
<v Speaker 2>chance to digest them and to really live in the

0:59:57.840 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 2>themes and the story in a way that when you're

1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:03.160
<v Speaker 2>doing a weekly release you don't necessarily get.

1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I also think that there's you know, something I've been

1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 1>thinking a lot about is like it there's something in

1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:13.800
<v Speaker 1>this series about like, okay, but what does it mean?

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:17.919
<v Speaker 1>You know something you and I have talked about We've

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:21.560
<v Speaker 1>talked about off mic is you know, in the in

1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the in the age of some of our recent protests,

1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:31.240
<v Speaker 1>or in the age of rhetoric against whatever's going on

1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in the world, Like what is it through the lens

1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of this show? What does it mean to have your

1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:42.400
<v Speaker 1>rhetoric match your action? And I love the way and

1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:44.600
<v Speaker 1>we talked about a bunch through these episodes, but I

1:00:44.640 --> 1:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>just love the way this show highlights the bravery of

1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:50.680
<v Speaker 1>just like normal people who are trying to do whatever

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:51.160
<v Speaker 1>they can.

1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I love the way you put it to gumming up

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:55.760
<v Speaker 2>the machine. And I think that's a lesson that all

1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:58.040
<v Speaker 2>of us can take, Like, how can you gum up

1:00:58.080 --> 1:00:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the machine?

1:00:58.680 --> 1:00:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Of how can you come up the machine?

1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:02.080
<v Speaker 2>How can you gum up the machine that is hurting

1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:04.480
<v Speaker 2>your neighbors and your friends, Like, take that from this

1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:07.720
<v Speaker 2>episode and be the person who comes up the machine.

1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like those are the real heroes.

1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:11.600
<v Speaker 1>And how can you do it when you don't control

1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the economy, you don't control the media, you don't control

1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:18.560
<v Speaker 1>any of the sources of power in this world, and

1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:23.560
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing people in this world take agency in any

1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:26.200
<v Speaker 1>way they can. I think it's an extremely powerful message.

1:01:26.200 --> 1:01:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see where this show takes us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on the next episodes of Extra Vision, we are returning

1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to and Or for our roundtable for an even deeper

1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:40.800
<v Speaker 1>dive to continue talking about the really fascinating themes and

1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:42.920
<v Speaker 1>all the things that are coming up as we're watching

1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the show. And then next week, of course, we have

1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:47.320
<v Speaker 1>more last of Us and we're gonna be covering the

1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.280
<v Speaker 1>last three episodes of and Or. So that's it for

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.

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