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Speaker 1: Dj introduced yourself to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Man, now, thanks for thanks for joining us right before
Speaker 2: we popped on. It seems like you guys grew up
Speaker 2: in similar areas. Uh, Delaney, he takes great pride. He
Speaker 2: is great pride and Promona Pomona.
Speaker 3: You know what it is, bro, Stop playing well. So
Speaker 3: we he was like, I bet you he's not from Pomona.
Speaker 2: I said, Look, I said, no, I said, I said,
Speaker 2: I said, Uh. The page we got said he is
Speaker 2: from Riverside. He said, he ain't from Riverside. He from
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask him. You from the town, You're already
Speaker 2: gonna know what's up?
Speaker 4: He said. He do know what's up.
Speaker 1: He said. Now, my grandparents grew up there, That's what
Speaker 1: he said.
Speaker 5: But my grandparents lived there. Oh, my dad, my brother,
Speaker 5: my dad's brothers, i' my uncles. Yeah, I grew up
Speaker 5: in Pomona. I lived there for a couple of years
Speaker 5: at my grandparents house for a couple of years. But
Speaker 5: no ship, I said, from the Empire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about I want to get into right away
Speaker 2: because I feel like you have. You've had a fascinating
Speaker 2: journey starting at Clemson. You were like you were like
Speaker 2: you were the man coming out of high school. You
Speaker 2: go to Clemson, transferre to Oregon State. Now you're transferred
Speaker 2: to Florida State. Talk us through like the process of
Speaker 2: now the transfer portal and your kind of journey of
Speaker 2: going from Clemson, the Oregon State now Florida State.
Speaker 5: I think, honestly, Man, it's nothing now I would have
Speaker 5: thought of when I was coming out of high school
Speaker 5: like this, what I would have been at here at
Speaker 5: Florida State.
Speaker 4: I would have been at three different colleges.
Speaker 5: But I mean, I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: I think that's part of the journey, what guys had
Speaker 5: for me. I think that's the blessing in it. I've
Speaker 5: learned a lot in my five years being here in
Speaker 5: college and then for me, Man, I'm happy to be
Speaker 5: here at Florida State.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for the next journey. But it's been a blessing.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: Guys put me through some trialge stribulation, some good, some
Speaker 5: ups and downs. But for me, Man, I've been able
Speaker 5: to come out of the fire on the other side
Speaker 5: and just learn through the times that God's giving me.
Speaker 2: So I've been blessed in the When you were at
Speaker 2: Clemson that was like the pre and ile era, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right before the state, right before.
Speaker 2: I think about talk about how that's just developed over
Speaker 2: time because you obviously wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Be here if the transferport and all that stuff wasn't
Speaker 1: going on. Talk about how like you've witnessed it all
Speaker 1: kind of come to light.
Speaker 4: I think it's been crazy.
Speaker 5: I think Nil transfer portal, I think for me Man
Speaker 5: and I, al's been a blessing. I think it's been
Speaker 5: huge for me. For me, Man, it's been able to
Speaker 5: take care of my family, be able to make extra
Speaker 5: means for my family, be able to pay rent, be
Speaker 5: able to pay for different stuff for my parents, mom
Speaker 5: and dad, and different stuff like that. So for me
Speaker 5: and I, al's been great. I mean that's something that
Speaker 5: I would have never thought of. That's helping my family
Speaker 5: out of help my life out, being my life a
Speaker 5: lot easier. And then transfer portal, I think it's something
Speaker 5: that's been for me Man, it's been beneficial. I mean,
Speaker 5: be able to tri If it wasn't for the transport,
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be able to be here at Florida State.
Speaker 5: So for me, Man, I'm super excited about my time
Speaker 5: for this next year of Florida State. I'm thankful the transferport.
Speaker 5: I think it's a great tool as long as people
Speaker 5: use it the right way. But I think it's great.
Speaker 4: So what made you come back to the ACC though?
Speaker 4: Coming back? For me, Man, I feel like Florida State
Speaker 4: is the best fit.
Speaker 5: I feel like coach Norvel, coach to Cards, coach Atkins,
Speaker 5: everyone here on the offensive staff, I feel like it's
Speaker 5: the best fit for me. I felt like the offense
Speaker 5: played to my tools and my strengths, to what I
Speaker 5: want to be as a quarterback when I do as
Speaker 5: a quarterback. And also I felt like Florida State, Man,
Speaker 5: I feel like they're on the rise, Like they had
Speaker 5: a great season last year. Should have been the playoffs
Speaker 5: in my opinion. But I feel like, Man, everyone's here
Speaker 5: hungry to get a national championship, win another AC championship,
Speaker 5: and that's what I want to do. Man, I want
Speaker 5: to be able to come here and win, be able
Speaker 5: to get developed, be able to be a great player.
Speaker 1: In their coach novel, why don't why didn't it work
Speaker 1: out with Clemson?
Speaker 5: I think it's a multitude of things. I think for me, Man,
Speaker 5: it was a blessing. I think coach Dad would think
Speaker 5: all the people there, my boy coach Streeter, my quarterback coach,
Speaker 5: and all the guys that were there. But I think
Speaker 5: it was just it just didn't work out for I
Speaker 5: think it was great at times. At times I was there,
Speaker 5: I think things went well, but obviously things didn't work
Speaker 5: out to how I thought it would and probably how
Speaker 5: everyone else started with at Clemson. So for me, Man,
Speaker 5: I felt like I wanted to go somewhere else and
Speaker 5: just go somewhere different.
Speaker 4: So that's why I ended up going to Oregon State.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it was like a clean break break?
Speaker 5: I think I think so. For me, Man, I wanted
Speaker 5: to start. I want to go somewhere. Fresh Man hear
Speaker 5: in my mind, I want to go somewhere. I want
Speaker 5: to do something different on offense, learn a different scheme,
Speaker 5: and for me, I want to go do something different.
Speaker 4: Played my strengths better.
Speaker 3: Us being in this our age and not being able
Speaker 3: to experience the portal like when you do hit the portal.
Speaker 3: What is the feeling like after leave leaving a team,
Speaker 3: do they feel like you turn your back on them, Like,
Speaker 3: I mean, what's that feel like?
Speaker 4: Locker room?
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, when I left Clumps, it was tough
Speaker 5: because I mean all those guys I was there for
Speaker 5: three years, coaching staff, the guys, support staff, all my players.
Speaker 5: I mean all those guys. I was boys. I was
Speaker 5: tight with them. I mean, honestly, I didn't want to leave.
Speaker 5: But it's also like kind of like a business ission, Like, man,
Speaker 5: if I want to be able to get to be
Speaker 5: my best, I need to leave, you know, I need
Speaker 5: to leave the situation. And it's tough, Like I mean,
Speaker 5: when you're on a team, you're putting out tons of
Speaker 5: working with guys every single day, like you're out here
Speaker 5: in the summer, put it in working the summer, the spring,
Speaker 5: then the season comes around and doing everything with your teammates.
Speaker 5: You're around the guy, so you're bonding like you guys
Speaker 5: are close, like it's a brotherhood for a lot of
Speaker 5: people talk about on the locker room. I mean, you
Speaker 5: guys know, being in the locker rooms like you're super close.
Speaker 5: So leaving that part it's tough. We obviously know in
Speaker 5: your heart, like it's the best decision I gotta do.
Speaker 5: But and depending on how you are as a teammate
Speaker 5: and as you are as a player. I think the
Speaker 5: locker room that the team that you're leaving, I think
Speaker 5: it shows like if the team's okay with you leaving, like, man,
Speaker 5: you know what, DJ could be your best, like do
Speaker 5: your best wherever you go, or some cases is like man,
Speaker 5: I forget that dude.
Speaker 4: If that dude like man, we ain't want to hear anyways.
Speaker 5: I think that depends on I think that shows what
Speaker 5: type of person you are in the type of character
Speaker 5: that you left on that team.
Speaker 4: And then the people around you.
Speaker 3: So did you ask for their blessing when you did
Speaker 3: hit the portal?
Speaker 4: Like I just want to know, like, do you go
Speaker 4: and talk to him?
Speaker 1: I'm about to I'm thinking about making a move.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, yo, you know I didn't. It's not
Speaker 3: working out the way I thought. I wanted to know
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this anyway. I just wanted to see,
Speaker 3: like what your blessing is because we didn't get to
Speaker 3: experience it. And I feel like it's a great opportunity
Speaker 3: for players nowadays because you do have the opportunity. Ain't
Speaker 3: going away you you like, are they fired off? The
Speaker 3: quarterback coach and you get a new one in he
Speaker 3: don't like you, like it gives you that statute.
Speaker 4: Yeah one percent.
Speaker 5: I mean I think my first time I told I
Speaker 5: called that one and let him know, like, hey, man,
Speaker 5: I want to probably enter the portal.
Speaker 1: I'm nervous for you.
Speaker 5: I was definitely yeah, I know, like, yeah, I was
Speaker 5: definitely nervous. You know, that's not a conversation you want
Speaker 5: to have. That's not an easy conversation to have. It's
Speaker 5: like if you're trying to like you're a head employee,
Speaker 5: you want you know, you're talking to your employee, or
Speaker 5: like you want to go talk to the boss. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know what, man, I think I'm leaving. So I
Speaker 5: mean that conversation wasn't It wasn't. It wasn't the easiest.
Speaker 5: But coach I think Coach Sweeney he understood where I
Speaker 5: was coming from and then obviously he didn't want me
Speaker 5: to go, but he understood, you understood.
Speaker 4: Where the place I was at.
Speaker 5: So I appreciate Coach Sweety for that making that conversation
Speaker 5: a lot easier than a lot of head coaches w
Speaker 5: instead of screaming like no, hell no, you're not gonna
Speaker 5: leave not gonna leave me. But he made that easy
Speaker 5: and he understood the process. We need absolutely transparency.
Speaker 1: You live in the world.
Speaker 2: We're all we all we all love capitalism, we all
Speaker 2: love making money, we all love having all of our
Speaker 2: decisions after our careers. Everything revolves around you know, what
Speaker 2: are they paying here? What are they paying there? Since
Speaker 2: you are somebody who has experienced the pre in IL
Speaker 2: and now the NIL for what it is today, Like
Speaker 2: when you're making the decision to go to a school
Speaker 2: back when you when you first went to Clenson, back
Speaker 2: when we played, You're like looking at it.
Speaker 1: Is it a football factor?
Speaker 2: You look at all these different assets of why you
Speaker 2: go to school?
Speaker 1: How does that change?
Speaker 2: Like how much more does that like maybe not mean
Speaker 2: as much with the whole nil, Like is it more
Speaker 2: financially driven? Yea, when you make your decisions now when
Speaker 2: you are doing the portal in the NIL and everything else.
Speaker 2: I think high school I think is definitely different. I
Speaker 2: think I mean it depends. I think it all depends
Speaker 2: on case the case scenario. I think depends on the athlete.
Speaker 2: What are there means? Like some athletes say, hey man, no,
Speaker 2: oh see everyone their.
Speaker 5: Goal is trying to get to the NFL and get
Speaker 5: developed in college and go to a great place where
Speaker 5: you get developed.
Speaker 4: But in il it's it's also a plus. You know.
Speaker 5: It's like, hey, you know what I do want to
Speaker 5: make some money. I want to be paid for. Like
Speaker 5: in some cases athletes like, hey, this is what I
Speaker 5: feel like I'm worth, Like this what I want to
Speaker 5: get paid for. And colleges will pay money out there.
Speaker 5: So it is blessing and stuff like that. But I
Speaker 5: think where it gets tricky is where people just want
Speaker 5: to go like, hey, I want to go here, like
Speaker 5: I just want to get paid. You know, they're just
Speaker 5: going money first. At the end of the day, where
Speaker 5: you make your real money as when we make it
Speaker 5: to the NFL. You know, like this money in college
Speaker 5: only lasts for a short amount of time. You know,
Speaker 5: you're not making the big bucks for like all these
Speaker 5: NFL players see they're signing their second contracts, some guys'
Speaker 5: third contracts are making hundreds of millions of dollars. Like
Speaker 5: that's where you're not getting paid that much in college.
Speaker 5: Like that's that's where you make the real money. So
Speaker 5: when you're going through the process, I would say in
Speaker 5: high school, you're still going through the same process as
Speaker 5: you were before.
Speaker 4: At il you're looking.
Speaker 5: Where you're going to get developed, where's the best fit
Speaker 5: for you as a player, and where you're going to
Speaker 5: be able to shine at to where you can be
Speaker 5: able to make the big bucks in the NFL and
Speaker 5: be able to be ready.
Speaker 4: I think that's how it.
Speaker 2: So like in your brain as an athlete, does you
Speaker 2: say it checks all those boxes? Then does it kind
Speaker 2: of like fall in a range of what a team
Speaker 2: might be willing to pay for them to meet all
Speaker 2: of the standards that you're kind of going through in
Speaker 2: your head.
Speaker 4: I think with that part, I think that comes second.
Speaker 5: You know obviously, like when you're going through it, you're
Speaker 5: picking the team, and then whatever the money is, I
Speaker 5: think that's a bonus at the end of the day.
Speaker 4: I mean you also you also, I mean you're it's
Speaker 4: also a business.
Speaker 5: So you want to be able to be paid what
Speaker 5: you're worth, Like you don't want to get cheaped out
Speaker 5: on anything, just like the NFL contracts.
Speaker 4: You're like, man, like, this is what I'm worth.
Speaker 5: Like, don't come out here with some bull with some
Speaker 5: bull crap and tell me I'm not worth this, you know,
Speaker 5: So I feel like it's also it's like the real world.
Speaker 5: I mean, you got to be able to you got
Speaker 5: to be able to conduct yourself as a business person
Speaker 5: as also as an athlete at the same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always so fascinated by that.
Speaker 2: Mean too, they're such a different like they ultimately they're
Speaker 2: in the shoes of like like he was just saying,
Speaker 2: because when we're choosing the nfls, if we're choosing an
Speaker 2: NFL teaven free agency where we feel like we're getting
Speaker 2: compensated the best, or if it's a way better fit
Speaker 2: or a winning team here right there.
Speaker 4: You might take a little less money, might take a
Speaker 4: little less money.
Speaker 1: Like that's what our decisions are based around. Then too,
Speaker 1: I almost.
Speaker 2: Feel like as a as a college athlete, you you
Speaker 2: do have to like try and stay like I guess
Speaker 2: true a little bit to like where can I develop
Speaker 2: a vehicle?
Speaker 1: Because they're like, you know what I mean, they're young.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean once you stop performing at a high level,
Speaker 3: them nil deals stop. You're only getting it because you
Speaker 3: was a top high school athlete. Are you that college athlete?
Speaker 3: And they paying you for that reason? And sometimes I
Speaker 3: feel like young athletes don't understand that, like, yes, you
Speaker 3: are great, but once that performance drop, them nil deals.
Speaker 4: Drop when they won't pay you. It's just like the NFL.
Speaker 3: Once you don't perform at a high level, what you get,
Speaker 3: you gone.
Speaker 5: It's no different than free agency. You're in the pus.
Speaker 5: It's no different. Like it just like you said, like
Speaker 5: if you're gonna go somewhere and take the best fit,
Speaker 5: like yeah, maybe it might not be a little bit
Speaker 5: less money than somewhere else, but like at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, it's the best fit. You're going somewhere
Speaker 5: where you're gonna be the best fit to where you
Speaker 5: can be able to make a lot of money.
Speaker 4: So that's where I think, because.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like when they do give you all
Speaker 3: that money, they expect you to perform right now, working
Speaker 3: it up right now, like first rounders. If they don't
Speaker 3: before they get two years after that's tag a year,
Speaker 3: but they gone.
Speaker 2: You feel like the locker room overall has like shifting
Speaker 2: a different mindset with all the nil and guys understanding
Speaker 2: who's making what come in here. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys do, like I don't know if it's like
Speaker 2: public knowledge, but do you feel any shifted off from
Speaker 2: when you were first in locker room and Clemson toil
Speaker 2: your last couple of years.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't think so. I think it depends on
Speaker 5: the team. I think some cases, you hear some teams,
Speaker 5: they might get they talk about like oh, man, like
Speaker 5: this guy's making this much, like why am I not
Speaker 5: making that much? But I think when you're in a
Speaker 5: brotherhood here like a Florida State, I think everyone understands, like, hey, man,
Speaker 5: you make like this is your money.
Speaker 4: You make your money. But like at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, man, you come here to work.
Speaker 5: You know, no matter how much money you make, how
Speaker 5: much money you make off the field, Like, man, at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, you got to come in
Speaker 5: here and perform. You got to come in here to
Speaker 5: the list, Like you're not missing no work that's because
Speaker 5: you make an x amount of money or you're in
Speaker 5: the portum made this much money, Like you're coming here
Speaker 5: to perform, Like there's a standard to be met each
Speaker 5: and every day, no matter how much money or if
Speaker 5: you make.
Speaker 4: No money here.
Speaker 5: So that's why I feel like in Florida State, there's
Speaker 5: no difference with how much money, say everyone makes, like
Speaker 5: there's no difference with in Il with before and since
Speaker 5: I've been here, it's like is your brotherhood, man, You're
Speaker 5: coming here to work.
Speaker 4: There's a standard to be met. You know how much.
Speaker 3: Money you make and you know what I do with
Speaker 3: some research on you, like if these guys don't know
Speaker 3: like you really care about football, because you did. You
Speaker 3: were drafted by the Dodgers as well, correct, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but didn't sign the contract. Yeah yeah, didn't sign a
Speaker 3: contract though, So that just shows you like dedication to
Speaker 3: the football, Like even though yeah, we know you got
Speaker 3: a great NIL deal, but you could have signed with
Speaker 3: baseball too and had a contract as well with them,
Speaker 3: but chose to play football strictly, So that that says
Speaker 3: a lot about you that how.
Speaker 4: Appreciated there about the game. And the money really doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: You just want to be in the NFL and I
Speaker 3: know your family that's what they want to see you doing.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and that's why they worked so hard to
Speaker 4: get you to where you at.
Speaker 1: You know, definitely, No, That's what I said.
Speaker 2: It's everybody's curiosity is so high with all this all
Speaker 2: the NIL stuff, and it's crazy. You have like a
Speaker 2: you have a unique case and journey because you've kind
Speaker 2: of been in both worlds and you're going, this is
Speaker 2: your fifth year. Yeah, fifth year? What what what made
Speaker 2: you leave or transfer from Oregon State? Did the coach
Speaker 2: leave or the whole staff left?
Speaker 5: My head coach left, So after our last game and
Speaker 5: the next day our head coach, you ended up taking
Speaker 5: the job in Michigan State, coach Smith. So when he left,
Speaker 5: my quarterback coach, my tight end coach, my coach in
Speaker 5: the first place, we had the main reasons why I
Speaker 5: was there. It was the whole offensive staff. And like
Speaker 5: when he left, the whole whole offensive staff left, and
Speaker 5: he was he was the offensive guy, my quarterback coach, lineman,
Speaker 5: offensive line, my tight ends, and that's the best damn
Speaker 5: near the whole offensive staff left.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, dang, yeah. Like when that left, and.
Speaker 5: Then the Pac twelve, like not having a conference anymore,
Speaker 5: or now that's being not in a conference anymore, like
Speaker 5: that did help as well. I was like, well, shoot me,
Speaker 5: I want to be able to compete for a national championship.
Speaker 5: I didn't know like being in he can't, but I've
Speaker 5: being in a conference, like in a big conference AC
Speaker 5: Big twelve, Big ten, and SEC.
Speaker 4: It's kind of hard to compete for that national championship.
Speaker 1: Verd So was that when the Big twelve kind of
Speaker 1: got blown up.
Speaker 5: To be at Pack twelve, it was crazy, like it's
Speaker 5: in the summer. I mean, for me, I grew up
Speaker 5: on the West Coast, grew up and I'm from sun California.
Speaker 4: I grew up a SC fan.
Speaker 5: Years of me watching the Pack ten Pac twelve just
Speaker 5: get dispersed and just leave.
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but I mean you you're in a greater
Speaker 3: opportunity to have success by going to a national championship
Speaker 3: being here, especially after what they did last year.
Speaker 4: You know, we'll be excited to watch and see what
Speaker 4: you do.
Speaker 3: Definitely, when when we found out I was interviewed, I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's my dog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I'm like.
Speaker 1: I'm for really Laney Walker Delaney was fired out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was fed like, yeah, that was my dog. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you got to do this interview
Speaker 3: and we got to meet you, and man, I like
Speaker 3: everything you're doing.
Speaker 1: So you know, we wish you the best. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you to find the stead real quick. Y'all didn't play?
Speaker 1: Uh if y'all play Colorado. Last year we played Colorado.
Speaker 1: They remember they Colorado Oregon. No Colorado's they start falling down?
Speaker 1: When when did you all play that played them like
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. I got you.
Speaker 2: I got you, because if y'all played them earlier, I'll
Speaker 2: be curious like all the everything that was kind of
Speaker 2: coming with Colorado Prime and everything else, crazy reality going
Speaker 2: against and be like, yo, you know you're like wanting
Speaker 2: to take everybody down.
Speaker 4: There's Hella cameras on the field. That's all I remember.
Speaker 5: Like I got to the field and it was packed
Speaker 5: and like cameras everywhere, like Hella media.
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, it's crazy.
Speaker 5: Constant show. Yeah, constant show. It was wild, Like I
Speaker 5: ain't never seen that many cameras on the field.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was wild, Like on players, it was crazy following plays.
Speaker 5: I think they had Kirk Franklin there. I was like, damn,
Speaker 5: Hella celebrities and Kirk Franklin like k yeahs and stuff
Speaker 5: come out.
Speaker 4: Like oh damn this this Hella fire. Kirk Franklin.
Speaker 2: They let a lot of yeah, they let a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff. Dudes will be like doing their vlogs and stuff.
Speaker 2: It was all types of celebrities on the FI. I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 2: they led celebrities on the field during the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was like, Man, who's coming to
Speaker 4: the game. I'm like, the celebrities gonna be at the game?
Speaker 1: Like who? Your thoughts? Your thoughts on not making the
Speaker 1: college football playoffs? You guys want you guys?
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously I wasn't on the team, but I think
Speaker 5: I think, honestly, I think they should have made it.
Speaker 4: I think that sucks. I mean, when you go.
Speaker 5: Underfeel, I don't think they should have made it here.
Speaker 1: I think they just like sitting back, didn't get in.
Speaker 4: I think it sucks. I think I knew. I mean,
Speaker 4: I know in Florida State about saying.
Speaker 1: Trouble.
Speaker 4: I know, yeah, about saying a tough position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we always got we gotta mess with people every time.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I mean my situation with that, the
Speaker 3: Florida State situation, you know, I don't it was a
Speaker 3: tough one th quarterback. I think that was a big play,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it was. It was the play.
Speaker 4: That's what that was.
Speaker 2: Like, they have the top two guys, the top two
Speaker 2: cats went down.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So that hurts you. I think that,
Speaker 3: but you know, Alabama is the Alabama ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was just hoping I wanted Michigan to go down,
Speaker 2: and so in my subjective personal opinion, I thought Alabama
Speaker 2: was more of a viable option, a healthier option to
Speaker 2: take down Michigan.
Speaker 1: So there was nothing against Florida States.
Speaker 3: Then against Florida State. I just didn't have trust me.
Speaker 3: I wanted y'all. Yeah, I know that's that's better though.
Speaker 3: I'm glad they're doing that because they realized they jacked
Speaker 3: Florida State, so they was like, we gotta put twelve.
Speaker 4: You know, you want to championship and don't go like,
Speaker 4: I mean, what else are you supposed to do?
Speaker 5: You know, even with an injury with you and Travis
Speaker 5: getting hurt, Like, man, when you win your conference without
Speaker 5: your starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's gotta say a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was an unfortunate I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was a tough situation.
Speaker 1: But hey, thank you, man, we appreciate you coming on
Speaker 1: to watch. We got to come out. We was we
Speaker 1: was out last night.
Speaker 4: We hit the township.
Speaker 3: I don't think he goes to that type of stuff,
Speaker 3: but I heard about it just like, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Just said township. He like, what go to that?
Speaker 1: Going out?
Speaker 4: Tell you he don't do that stuff?
Speaker 3: Is being a yeah great the great athlete?
Speaker 4: Yeah athlete, Yes, that's absolutely bro.
Speaker 1: Do they Miami in Northwestern didn make you watch the
Speaker 1: Year of the Bull for each season?
Speaker 4: No, make you watch it, but you watched it.
Speaker 1: I watched it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a stable Yeah, I watched it. Definitely watched that.
Speaker 6: She was crazy you yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Or the shower or the shower postgame meetings are they
Speaker 2: a little different now?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: A little different?
Speaker 6: When well, I was there with coach maxes that it's
Speaker 6: basically the same. He just he can't move as much
Speaker 6: like coach Max. He was a deeper coordinator on new videos.
Speaker 6: He was the head coach when I was there, but
Speaker 6: he was he was exactly the same when it came
Speaker 6: to screaming and cuts and all that. But but he
Speaker 6: couldn't really slop people, you.
Speaker 4: Know, running around. We can't really move as well as
Speaker 4: did you ever try? You? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Everybody, everybody get it.
Speaker 6: I remember one time we was after like our first
Speaker 6: two games. It was in the gym, and he was
Speaker 6: going player for player, like even all the star players
Speaker 6: on the team like it was me Cam Kitcheners from
Speaker 6: Miami to safety Ramelo Grenson. He telling everybody what they're
Speaker 6: doing wrong. He came, he said, Patrick, I don't care
Speaker 6: how many touchdowns he school, you still ain't doing nothing
Speaker 6: this year.
Speaker 4: He was one of those type of players, like everybody respect.
Speaker 3: How did they feel being rookie defensive Rookie of the
Speaker 3: year for the ACC It felt great because like just
Speaker 3: going through the season, I didn't even know I was
Speaker 3: how it turns to even wind over.
Speaker 6: I was just trying to play in just put my
Speaker 6: name out there and make plays for the team. And
Speaker 6: at the end of the season, coach Novel called me.
Speaker 6: All the coaches just called me out. Woke up one morning.
Speaker 6: I thought I was in trouble, but everybody called me.
Speaker 6: They congratulated me, and I just felt great. I felt
Speaker 6: love from the similar family and everybody.
Speaker 3: And that's what's up. Like they come out be rookie
Speaker 3: defensive Rookie of the year, ball out, do what you
Speaker 3: do and then to come back, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: and still be successful here and uh, you know, we
Speaker 3: got to talk about it because we heard about it.
Speaker 3: But the portal, why did you mention the portal when
Speaker 3: after having so much success here in Florida State.
Speaker 6: It was a personal matter with like us and my
Speaker 6: family when it came to certain stuff with and I
Speaker 6: and all that. But I had to put my mind
Speaker 6: to it just knowing that then I really is at
Speaker 6: the next level for real, and I love Florida State.
Speaker 6: So it was like, I know, it was a big
Speaker 6: mistake on mind behind like when I think about it
Speaker 6: some day, I'll be trying to think about it. When
Speaker 6: I do think about it, I know why I messed up.
Speaker 3: Money can to that because you're a Miami guy, so
Speaker 3: you Florida all day, like being here in Florida State,
Speaker 3: not too far from your family. But I understand what
Speaker 3: you're saying about situations with your family and you got
Speaker 3: to do the right thing for your family to be successful.
Speaker 4: So I understand that.
Speaker 3: When we read that, I just wanted to hear it
Speaker 3: because she was like, no, I'm not hitting the portal.
Speaker 4: I'm actually gonna stay.
Speaker 3: And I see that as a big thing because you
Speaker 3: look at some of these players that's coming out of
Speaker 3: Florida State right now, top ten draft picks, dudes moving
Speaker 3: up in their stock, and you are one of those
Speaker 3: guys that's on the board already, it's being can be
Speaker 3: in the top ten. You know what I mean if you,
Speaker 3: you know, keep doing what you're doing, practice your craft,
Speaker 3: and be successful as you are here in Florida. Stay
Speaker 3: And I see that just by watching your film and uh,
Speaker 3: the way you go out there and play the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, how how quickly do you feel like you
Speaker 2: were acclimated to the to the game speed or being
Speaker 2: out there on game. They coming from Miami Northwestern, you
Speaker 2: obviously played at a high level in high school, But
Speaker 2: how quickly did you realize like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: still the same cat that I was. I was still
Speaker 2: the same cat, and I'll be able to catch on
Speaker 2: all this stuff quick.
Speaker 4: It was really the year I won the Richie of
Speaker 4: the Year.
Speaker 6: We was playing against Louisville and I know, y'all know
Speaker 6: jer Verse that saying he had got hurt. And so
Speaker 6: when he got hurt, he just came off a big
Speaker 6: game to LSU. So everybody looking at him like, oh,
Speaker 6: he's the guy, He's the guy. Like even I was
Speaker 6: like that still my god to this day. But he
Speaker 6: had got hurt. He had a little mind, a little
Speaker 6: injury that he couldn't play for the rest of the game,
Speaker 6: and I just knew, like I knew something. They needed
Speaker 6: somebody to step up at the time, and I had nothing.
Speaker 6: Went in like I ain't even ask my coach if
Speaker 6: I was in, and I just went in and I
Speaker 6: made a player on the first very play I was
Speaker 6: and it was a screen. I ran down the screen.
Speaker 6: I made the play, and that's when my mind it
Speaker 6: just slowed down, knowing like okay, Pat, you got this.
Speaker 6: And I just went on the rest of it again.
Speaker 6: I just made it plays. Then the next week came
Speaker 6: and then I just went on from there.
Speaker 1: Just started getting more wraps. When you were you ran
Speaker 1: in and nobody was even saying.
Speaker 6: Nobody saying nothing. He just I looked at him, I said, man,
Speaker 6: and I went and out there, and then the next
Speaker 6: week I had got my first sack, and then I
Speaker 6: just went up there from there.
Speaker 3: So if you had twenty eight solo tackles, seven sacks,
Speaker 3: two force fumbles.
Speaker 1: Several people used yeah, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fresh, I mean.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's what you want to see when somebody go down, You.
Speaker 4: Going the game.
Speaker 1: Ball like that. He was nervous when you first went in.
Speaker 4: A little bit.
Speaker 6: It was a big game to playing Louisville on a
Speaker 6: Friday night, everybody watching. We was our first time winning
Speaker 6: the all white uniformia. Yeah, I was a little nervous.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Take us to the moment where you guys are all
Speaker 2: sitting around watching for the College Forball playoff and Florida
Speaker 2: State doesn't get picked.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was very heartbreaking just knowing like we
Speaker 6: worked so hard from January all the way to December
Speaker 6: just to try to show the world what Florida State
Speaker 6: football is all about. And it really hurt me because
Speaker 6: of my own main man, Jordan Travis. I know he
Speaker 6: felt like in the moment, like everything was his fault.
Speaker 6: I knew what he was going through the first few
Speaker 6: weeks he got hurt like it was really because of him,
Speaker 6: because I knew he felt like, oh if Alli never
Speaker 6: got hurt, we was gone in the playoffs. That's what
Speaker 6: it really was on my mind. I knew it was
Speaker 6: hurt for the whole team too, but I just I
Speaker 6: felt so bad for Jay trying because it wasn't his fault.
Speaker 4: For real, It's just football. That's so true.
Speaker 3: What he just said is kind of true, Like to
Speaker 3: be that player and didn't hear everyone say that's the
Speaker 3: reason why they didn't get in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah, did you.
Speaker 2: Guys have an inkling that y'all weren't gonna get picked him?
Speaker 2: I mean, where did you guys feel confident?
Speaker 6: I felt like we felt confident coming off the Louisville
Speaker 6: game because our defense we played so good, and we
Speaker 6: had a true freshman out there quarterback respect the block game.
Speaker 4: It was his first game really out there. You know,
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot.
Speaker 6: Of kids can't just go out there as a quarterback
Speaker 6: and just go out there and just play like Joan
Speaker 6: Travis on their first game out there. And then our
Speaker 6: second sing quarterback he got a percussion in the Floorida
Speaker 6: game too, So that just made our defense play so
Speaker 6: good that game. So knowing that that was our mindset
Speaker 6: when we go in these playoffs. If we get into
Speaker 6: the playoffs, we just gonna play as hard as we
Speaker 6: can on defense.
Speaker 4: If they can't score, they can't win. And that's what
Speaker 4: we did. We hold.
Speaker 6: We held Louisville six points, two field goals, And that's
Speaker 6: that was really our mindset.
Speaker 3: That's real, that's really how that scenario win. Starting quarterback
Speaker 3: go out extreme quarterback concussion started true freshman and the
Speaker 3: Louisville Game championship. You get you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: and it's still get overlooked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was a tough I'm sure it sucked.
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 3: I mean from hearing it from they mouth, it's sound
Speaker 3: even worse just because it's like.
Speaker 1: The result is ultimately out of your control.
Speaker 3: Nothing y'all went what was it twelve and oh thirteen
Speaker 3: and oh thirteen and oh that was the first time.
Speaker 1: What happened? What happened with the Georgia game.
Speaker 4: Georgia game.
Speaker 6: I felt like, it's just Georgia, though the Georgia people
Speaker 6: know that if we had our full team out there,
Speaker 6: it would have been a complete different game.
Speaker 4: We just had.
Speaker 6: It was really how many starters on the on the
Speaker 6: D line, it was one started out me and then
Speaker 6: linebackers we oh we had d little one starter, you
Speaker 6: know dB only one starter sha He Brown in the
Speaker 6: same anything. It was for the offense, it's just all
Speaker 6: our guns felt like they had to go put together
Speaker 6: their training and get right and stay healthy for when
Speaker 6: they come for their pro day and draft time. So
Speaker 6: I respect them boys for doing what they had to
Speaker 6: do because that's that's them boys career.
Speaker 4: But that's all it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, because y'all that y'all kind of looked at
Speaker 3: the game as meaningless pretty much because they like, we
Speaker 3: just we should have been in the national championship. Since
Speaker 3: we been in a national championship, we about to go
Speaker 3: get ready for this draft. And I understand that, and
Speaker 3: that was probably like a team decision, because I like
Speaker 3: that's how we heard.
Speaker 4: It was like a.
Speaker 6: Team decision where like, again, we're not gonna play so
Speaker 6: and then Georgia came out with that mindset, Oh, we
Speaker 6: should have got in too, so we're finn show the world.
Speaker 6: Yeah we finished show y'all what we're finna do to
Speaker 6: Florida State to get in with with their whole team, right,
Speaker 6: So that's it was just it was just I wish
Speaker 6: we could have had our whole team against them. They
Speaker 6: was out there talking trash all. I just couldn't even
Speaker 6: say nothing because I feel me I could have been like,
Speaker 6: next year, bro, what we do next year?
Speaker 2: Growing up in uh uh ain't going to Miami Northwestern?
Speaker 2: What were some of your favorite schools growing up? Was
Speaker 2: Florida State your favorite? And that's what you want to
Speaker 2: play for.
Speaker 6: It wasn't Miami was as crazy as Florida State wasn't
Speaker 6: my favorite.
Speaker 4: I used to like Miami. My daddy. It was the
Speaker 4: biggest Florida State fan.
Speaker 6: Ever since I've been able to talk, he'd been talking
Speaker 6: about Florida State Deon Sam's guys like that, even when
Speaker 6: they won the national championship. I watched the game with him.
Speaker 6: He'd been his dream was for me to go to
Speaker 6: Florida State. You don't matter what what sport I played, whatever,
Speaker 6: He just wanted me to come play for Florida State.
Speaker 6: I really was a big Miami fan growing up, just
Speaker 6: because growing up in Miami is right there. You see
Speaker 6: it every weekend. Your grandma got it on until he
Speaker 6: got it on. And then what's crazy is nah, my
Speaker 6: whole family don't even wear Miami no more. Everybody West
Speaker 6: Florida State. It's just but it was a yeah, it
Speaker 6: wasn't really a dream. It was a dream school just
Speaker 6: knowing it's in Florida.
Speaker 2: Right, But it was Were they close? Were they close
Speaker 2: in your recruiting process? Like, were you close to going
Speaker 2: to Miami or somewhere else over Florida State?
Speaker 4: Not Miami?
Speaker 6: Because I guess like no direspect to the new coach style,
Speaker 6: but the old coach style they scheme was a little different.
Speaker 4: In their positions.
Speaker 6: They seen defent ends that's like outside linebacker and stand
Speaker 6: up linebackers. So I guess they didn't really see me
Speaker 6: as one of them big interior detail because.
Speaker 4: You know, I was very skinny and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: So there's no disrespect that like Mario crystaball or nothing
Speaker 6: of it, because I know, like he's a big like
Speaker 6: he could recruit a lot of people down there, so
Speaker 6: I know if he was like coach, it would have
Speaker 6: been a little closer.
Speaker 4: But nah, they didn't really recruit me at all for real.
Speaker 3: But Jo Pops really was like Florida State, It don't
Speaker 3: even matter like all these other schools Florida States where
Speaker 3: you're going pretty.
Speaker 6: Much like you got on that zoon with coach novel,
Speaker 6: just listening to him talk and even if how bad
Speaker 6: I record was he had on first got here though,
Speaker 6: so I wasn't really paying attention to that. I was
Speaker 6: just focused on the way he talked and Holloway coach
Speaker 6: O'Dell talked because he was here for so but just
Speaker 6: listening to him on that zoom.
Speaker 4: It just it clicked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what team in the A C C Do
Speaker 2: you look forward to playing two most this year?
Speaker 6: This year, I feel like it's gonna be Clemson because
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a big game. It's gonna be a
Speaker 6: solid it's gonna be here. And you know our new
Speaker 6: quarterback DJ I know him like in his mind what
Speaker 6: type of game it's gonna be for him. So I
Speaker 6: know what type of game that's gonna be when we
Speaker 6: play Clemson, when we play Miami again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be the two big games there.
Speaker 1: You gotta you got any any other question for him? No?
Speaker 3: I think everything you answered was great and we had
Speaker 3: a great time talking to you.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I look forward to seeing you doing your thing. So
Speaker 3: you're gonna be a star in the NFL. Man, just
Speaker 3: keep your head straight and keep grinding.
Speaker 2: That's but it's nothing we got to hit in in
Speaker 2: the interview.
Speaker 1: Who is it smelliest guy in the locker room? Present
Speaker 1: a boy, dude, Kennon. We'll get right. We got to
Speaker 1: smell goods. We brought the goodies, so needs it the most.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, you gotta say one of the big
Speaker 6: guys the old line of d Line.
Speaker 4: It's one of one of the three hundred pound guys.
Speaker 4: But I feel like we got it going. We're good.
Speaker 4: But just for I'm gonna just say, Julian Urmela, I'm
Speaker 4: just trying to get you right.
Speaker 3: That's a free shout out with no shout out.
Speaker 2: Pat Thank you, bro. This is awesome man. That wish
Speaker 2: you all all the luck in the world. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I hope you become a monster in the NFL because
Speaker 2: we'll know we got to sit with you like right
Speaker 2: out of here, a c C Freshman of the Year.
Speaker 2: But but thank you, man, seriously, thank.
Speaker 4: You, Thank you. Bros.
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