1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: D j Oui langa lay I'm. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Dowey what d j unga la ooy unga lay. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Dj introduced yourself to the podcast. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Man, now, thanks for thanks for joining us right before 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 2: we popped on. It seems like you guys grew up 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: in similar areas. Uh, Delaney, he takes great pride. He 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: is great pride and Promona Pomona. 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: You know what it is, bro, Stop playing well. So 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: we he was like, I bet you he's not from Pomona. 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: I said, Look, I said, no, I said, I said, 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: I said, Uh. The page we got said he is 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: from Riverside. He said, he ain't from Riverside. He from 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask him. You from the town, You're already 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: gonna know what's up? 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 4: He said. He do know what's up. 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: He said. Now, my grandparents grew up there, That's what 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: he said. 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 5: But my grandparents lived there. Oh, my dad, my brother, 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 5: my dad's brothers, i' my uncles. Yeah, I grew up 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 5: in Pomona. I lived there for a couple of years 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 5: at my grandparents house for a couple of years. But 22 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 5: no ship, I said, from the Empire. 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about I want to get into right away 24 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: because I feel like you have. You've had a fascinating 25 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: journey starting at Clemson. You were like you were like 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: you were the man coming out of high school. You 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: go to Clemson, transferre to Oregon State. Now you're transferred 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: to Florida State. Talk us through like the process of 29 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: now the transfer portal and your kind of journey of 30 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: going from Clemson, the Oregon State now Florida State. 31 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 5: I think, honestly, Man, it's nothing now I would have 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 5: thought of when I was coming out of high school 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 5: like this, what I would have been at here at 34 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 5: Florida State. 35 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: I would have been at three different colleges. 36 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 5: But I mean, I think at the end of the day, 37 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 5: I think that's part of the journey, what guys had 38 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 5: for me. I think that's the blessing in it. I've 39 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 5: learned a lot in my five years being here in 40 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 5: college and then for me, Man, I'm happy to be 41 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 5: here at Florida State. 42 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: I'm excited for the next journey. But it's been a blessing. 43 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Man. 44 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 5: Guys put me through some trialge stribulation, some good, some 45 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 5: ups and downs. But for me, Man, I've been able 46 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 5: to come out of the fire on the other side 47 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 5: and just learn through the times that God's giving me. 48 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: So I've been blessed in the When you were at 49 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: Clemson that was like the pre and ile era, right. 50 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, right before the state, right before. 51 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: I think about talk about how that's just developed over 52 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: time because you obviously wouldn't. 53 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Be here if the transferport and all that stuff wasn't 54 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: going on. Talk about how like you've witnessed it all 55 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: kind of come to light. 56 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: I think it's been crazy. 57 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 5: I think Nil transfer portal, I think for me Man 58 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 5: and I, al's been a blessing. I think it's been 59 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 5: huge for me. For me, Man, it's been able to 60 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 5: take care of my family, be able to make extra 61 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 5: means for my family, be able to pay rent, be 62 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 5: able to pay for different stuff for my parents, mom 63 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 5: and dad, and different stuff like that. So for me 64 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 5: and I, al's been great. I mean that's something that 65 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 5: I would have never thought of. That's helping my family 66 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 5: out of help my life out, being my life a 67 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: lot easier. And then transfer portal, I think it's something 68 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 5: that's been for me Man, it's been beneficial. I mean, 69 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 5: be able to tri If it wasn't for the transport, 70 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be able to be here at Florida State. 71 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 5: So for me, Man, I'm super excited about my time 72 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 5: for this next year of Florida State. I'm thankful the transferport. 73 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 5: I think it's a great tool as long as people 74 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 5: use it the right way. But I think it's great. 75 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: So what made you come back to the ACC though? 76 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 4: Coming back? For me, Man, I feel like Florida State 77 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: is the best fit. 78 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 5: I feel like coach Norvel, coach to Cards, coach Atkins, 79 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 5: everyone here on the offensive staff, I feel like it's 80 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 5: the best fit for me. I felt like the offense 81 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 5: played to my tools and my strengths, to what I 82 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 5: want to be as a quarterback when I do as 83 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 5: a quarterback. And also I felt like Florida State, Man, 84 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: I feel like they're on the rise, Like they had 85 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 5: a great season last year. Should have been the playoffs 86 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 5: in my opinion. But I feel like, Man, everyone's here 87 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: hungry to get a national championship, win another AC championship, 88 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 5: and that's what I want to do. Man, I want 89 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 5: to be able to come here and win, be able 90 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 5: to get developed, be able to be a great player. 91 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: In their coach novel, why don't why didn't it work 92 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: out with Clemson? 93 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 5: I think it's a multitude of things. I think for me, Man, 94 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 5: it was a blessing. I think coach Dad would think 95 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: all the people there, my boy coach Streeter, my quarterback coach, 96 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 5: and all the guys that were there. But I think 97 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 5: it was just it just didn't work out for I 98 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 5: think it was great at times. At times I was there, 99 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 5: I think things went well, but obviously things didn't work 100 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 5: out to how I thought it would and probably how 101 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: everyone else started with at Clemson. So for me, Man, 102 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: I felt like I wanted to go somewhere else and 103 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 5: just go somewhere different. 104 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: So that's why I ended up going to Oregon State. 105 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: Do you feel like it was like a clean break break? 106 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: I think I think so. For me, Man, I wanted 107 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 5: to start. I want to go somewhere. Fresh Man hear 108 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 5: in my mind, I want to go somewhere. I want 109 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 5: to do something different on offense, learn a different scheme, 110 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 5: and for me, I want to go do something different. 111 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: Played my strengths better. 112 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: Us being in this our age and not being able 113 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: to experience the portal like when you do hit the portal. 114 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: What is the feeling like after leave leaving a team, 115 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: do they feel like you turn your back on them, Like, 116 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: I mean, what's that feel like? 117 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: Locker room? 118 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, when I left Clumps, it was tough 119 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 5: because I mean all those guys I was there for 120 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 5: three years, coaching staff, the guys, support staff, all my players. 121 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 5: I mean all those guys. I was boys. I was 122 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 5: tight with them. I mean, honestly, I didn't want to leave. 123 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 5: But it's also like kind of like a business ission, Like, man, 124 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 5: if I want to be able to get to be 125 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 5: my best, I need to leave, you know, I need 126 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 5: to leave the situation. And it's tough, Like I mean, 127 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: when you're on a team, you're putting out tons of 128 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: working with guys every single day, like you're out here 129 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: in the summer, put it in working the summer, the spring, 130 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: then the season comes around and doing everything with your teammates. 131 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: You're around the guy, so you're bonding like you guys 132 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 5: are close, like it's a brotherhood for a lot of 133 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 5: people talk about on the locker room. I mean, you 134 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: guys know, being in the locker rooms like you're super close. 135 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: So leaving that part it's tough. We obviously know in 136 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 5: your heart, like it's the best decision I gotta do. 137 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 5: But and depending on how you are as a teammate 138 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 5: and as you are as a player. I think the 139 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 5: locker room that the team that you're leaving, I think 140 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: it shows like if the team's okay with you leaving, like, man, 141 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 5: you know what, DJ could be your best, like do 142 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 5: your best wherever you go, or some cases is like man, 143 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 5: I forget that dude. 144 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 4: If that dude like man, we ain't want to hear anyways. 145 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 5: I think that depends on I think that shows what 146 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 5: type of person you are in the type of character 147 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 5: that you left on that team. 148 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: And then the people around you. 149 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: So did you ask for their blessing when you did 150 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: hit the portal? 151 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: Like I just want to know, like, do you go 152 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: and talk to him? 153 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm about to I'm thinking about making a move. 154 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, yo, you know I didn't. It's not 155 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: working out the way I thought. I wanted to know 156 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this anyway. I just wanted to see, 157 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 3: like what your blessing is because we didn't get to 158 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: experience it. And I feel like it's a great opportunity 159 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: for players nowadays because you do have the opportunity. Ain't 160 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: going away you you like, are they fired off? The 161 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: quarterback coach and you get a new one in he 162 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: don't like you, like it gives you that statute. 163 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: Yeah one percent. 164 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 5: I mean I think my first time I told I 165 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: called that one and let him know, like, hey, man, 166 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 5: I want to probably enter the portal. 167 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm nervous for you. 168 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 5: I was definitely yeah, I know, like, yeah, I was 169 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 5: definitely nervous. You know, that's not a conversation you want 170 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 5: to have. That's not an easy conversation to have. It's 171 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 5: like if you're trying to like you're a head employee, 172 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 5: you want you know, you're talking to your employee, or 173 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: like you want to go talk to the boss. Yeah, 174 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 5: you know what, man, I think I'm leaving. So I 175 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 5: mean that conversation wasn't It wasn't. It wasn't the easiest. 176 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 5: But coach I think Coach Sweeney he understood where I 177 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: was coming from and then obviously he didn't want me 178 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: to go, but he understood, you understood. 179 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: Where the place I was at. 180 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: So I appreciate Coach Sweety for that making that conversation 181 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 5: a lot easier than a lot of head coaches w 182 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: instead of screaming like no, hell no, you're not gonna 183 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 5: leave not gonna leave me. But he made that easy 184 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 5: and he understood the process. We need absolutely transparency. 185 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: You live in the world. 186 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: We're all we all we all love capitalism, we all 187 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: love making money, we all love having all of our 188 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: decisions after our careers. Everything revolves around you know, what 189 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: are they paying here? What are they paying there? Since 190 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: you are somebody who has experienced the pre in IL 191 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: and now the NIL for what it is today, Like 192 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: when you're making the decision to go to a school 193 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: back when you when you first went to Clenson, back 194 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: when we played, You're like looking at it. 195 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: Is it a football factor? 196 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: You look at all these different assets of why you 197 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: go to school? 198 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: How does that change? 199 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: Like how much more does that like maybe not mean 200 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: as much with the whole nil, Like is it more 201 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: financially driven? Yea, when you make your decisions now when 202 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: you are doing the portal in the NIL and everything else. 203 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: I think high school I think is definitely different. I 204 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 2: think I mean it depends. I think it all depends 205 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: on case the case scenario. I think depends on the athlete. 206 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: What are there means? Like some athletes say, hey man, no, 207 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: oh see everyone their. 208 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 5: Goal is trying to get to the NFL and get 209 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 5: developed in college and go to a great place where 210 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 5: you get developed. 211 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: But in il it's it's also a plus. You know. 212 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: It's like, hey, you know what I do want to 213 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: make some money. I want to be paid for. Like 214 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: in some cases athletes like, hey, this is what I 215 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 5: feel like I'm worth, Like this what I want to 216 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 5: get paid for. And colleges will pay money out there. 217 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: So it is blessing and stuff like that. But I 218 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 5: think where it gets tricky is where people just want 219 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: to go like, hey, I want to go here, like 220 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 5: I just want to get paid. You know, they're just 221 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: going money first. At the end of the day, where 222 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 5: you make your real money as when we make it 223 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 5: to the NFL. You know, like this money in college 224 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 5: only lasts for a short amount of time. You know, 225 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 5: you're not making the big bucks for like all these 226 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 5: NFL players see they're signing their second contracts, some guys' 227 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 5: third contracts are making hundreds of millions of dollars. Like 228 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 5: that's where you're not getting paid that much in college. 229 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 5: Like that's that's where you make the real money. So 230 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 5: when you're going through the process, I would say in 231 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 5: high school, you're still going through the same process as 232 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 5: you were before. 233 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: At il you're looking. 234 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: Where you're going to get developed, where's the best fit 235 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 5: for you as a player, and where you're going to 236 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 5: be able to shine at to where you can be 237 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 5: able to make the big bucks in the NFL and 238 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: be able to be ready. 239 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 4: I think that's how it. 240 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: So like in your brain as an athlete, does you 241 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: say it checks all those boxes? Then does it kind 242 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: of like fall in a range of what a team 243 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: might be willing to pay for them to meet all 244 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: of the standards that you're kind of going through in 245 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: your head. 246 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: I think with that part, I think that comes second. 247 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 5: You know obviously, like when you're going through it, you're 248 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 5: picking the team, and then whatever the money is, I 249 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 5: think that's a bonus at the end of the day. 250 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 4: I mean you also you also, I mean you're it's 251 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: also a business. 252 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 5: So you want to be able to be paid what 253 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: you're worth, Like you don't want to get cheaped out 254 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: on anything, just like the NFL contracts. 255 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: You're like, man, like, this is what I'm worth. 256 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 5: Like, don't come out here with some bull with some 257 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 5: bull crap and tell me I'm not worth this, you know, 258 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 5: So I feel like it's also it's like the real world. 259 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 5: I mean, you got to be able to you got 260 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 5: to be able to conduct yourself as a business person 261 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 5: as also as an athlete at the same time. 262 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always so fascinated by that. 263 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: Mean too, they're such a different like they ultimately they're 264 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: in the shoes of like like he was just saying, 265 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: because when we're choosing the nfls, if we're choosing an 266 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: NFL teaven free agency where we feel like we're getting 267 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: compensated the best, or if it's a way better fit 268 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: or a winning team here right there. 269 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 4: You might take a little less money, might take a 270 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: little less money. 271 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: Like that's what our decisions are based around. Then too, 272 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: I almost. 273 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: Feel like as a as a college athlete, you you 274 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: do have to like try and stay like I guess 275 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: true a little bit to like where can I develop 276 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: a vehicle? 277 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: Because they're like, you know what I mean, they're young. 278 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: Well, I mean once you stop performing at a high level, 279 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: them nil deals stop. You're only getting it because you 280 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: was a top high school athlete. Are you that college athlete? 281 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: And they paying you for that reason? And sometimes I 282 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: feel like young athletes don't understand that, like, yes, you 283 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: are great, but once that performance drop, them nil deals. 284 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: Drop when they won't pay you. It's just like the NFL. 285 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: Once you don't perform at a high level, what you get, 286 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: you gone. 287 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 5: It's no different than free agency. You're in the pus. 288 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 5: It's no different. Like it just like you said, like 289 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 5: if you're gonna go somewhere and take the best fit, 290 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 5: like yeah, maybe it might not be a little bit 291 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 5: less money than somewhere else, but like at the end 292 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 5: of the day, it's the best fit. You're going somewhere 293 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 5: where you're gonna be the best fit to where you 294 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 5: can be able to make a lot of money. 295 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: So that's where I think, because. 296 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like when they do give you all 297 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: that money, they expect you to perform right now, working 298 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: it up right now, like first rounders. If they don't 299 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: before they get two years after that's tag a year, 300 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: but they gone. 301 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: You feel like the locker room overall has like shifting 302 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: a different mindset with all the nil and guys understanding 303 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: who's making what come in here. I don't know if 304 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: you guys do, like I don't know if it's like 305 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: public knowledge, but do you feel any shifted off from 306 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: when you were first in locker room and Clemson toil 307 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: your last couple of years. 308 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't think so. I think it depends on 309 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 5: the team. I think some cases, you hear some teams, 310 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 5: they might get they talk about like oh, man, like 311 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 5: this guy's making this much, like why am I not 312 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 5: making that much? But I think when you're in a 313 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 5: brotherhood here like a Florida State, I think everyone understands, like, hey, man, 314 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 5: you make like this is your money. 315 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: You make your money. But like at the end of 316 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: the day, man, you come here to work. 317 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 5: You know, no matter how much money you make, how 318 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 5: much money you make off the field, Like, man, at 319 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 5: the end of the day, you got to come in 320 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 5: here and perform. You got to come in here to 321 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 5: the list, Like you're not missing no work that's because 322 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 5: you make an x amount of money or you're in 323 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 5: the portum made this much money, Like you're coming here 324 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 5: to perform, Like there's a standard to be met each 325 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 5: and every day, no matter how much money or if 326 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 5: you make. 327 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: No money here. 328 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 5: So that's why I feel like in Florida State, there's 329 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 5: no difference with how much money, say everyone makes, like 330 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 5: there's no difference with in Il with before and since 331 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 5: I've been here, it's like is your brotherhood, man, You're 332 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 5: coming here to work. 333 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: There's a standard to be met. You know how much. 334 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: Money you make and you know what I do with 335 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: some research on you, like if these guys don't know 336 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: like you really care about football, because you did. You 337 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: were drafted by the Dodgers as well, correct, yeah, yeah, 338 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 3: but didn't sign the contract. Yeah yeah, didn't sign a 339 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: contract though, So that just shows you like dedication to 340 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: the football, Like even though yeah, we know you got 341 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: a great NIL deal, but you could have signed with 342 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: baseball too and had a contract as well with them, 343 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: but chose to play football strictly, So that that says 344 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: a lot about you that how. 345 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: Appreciated there about the game. And the money really doesn't matter. 346 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: You just want to be in the NFL and I 347 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: know your family that's what they want to see you doing. 348 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and that's why they worked so hard to 349 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: get you to where you at. 350 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: You know, definitely, No, That's what I said. 351 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: It's everybody's curiosity is so high with all this all 352 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: the NIL stuff, and it's crazy. You have like a 353 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: you have a unique case and journey because you've kind 354 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: of been in both worlds and you're going, this is 355 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: your fifth year. Yeah, fifth year? What what what made 356 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: you leave or transfer from Oregon State? Did the coach 357 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: leave or the whole staff left? 358 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 5: My head coach left, So after our last game and 359 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 5: the next day our head coach, you ended up taking 360 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 5: the job in Michigan State, coach Smith. So when he left, 361 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 5: my quarterback coach, my tight end coach, my coach in 362 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 5: the first place, we had the main reasons why I 363 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 5: was there. It was the whole offensive staff. And like 364 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 5: when he left, the whole whole offensive staff left, and 365 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 5: he was he was the offensive guy, my quarterback coach, lineman, 366 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 5: offensive line, my tight ends, and that's the best damn 367 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 5: near the whole offensive staff left. 368 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: So I'm like, dang, yeah. Like when that left, and. 369 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 5: Then the Pac twelve, like not having a conference anymore, 370 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 5: or now that's being not in a conference anymore, like 371 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 5: that did help as well. I was like, well, shoot me, 372 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,119 Speaker 5: I want to be able to compete for a national championship. 373 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: I didn't know like being in he can't, but I've 374 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 5: being in a conference, like in a big conference AC 375 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 5: Big twelve, Big ten, and SEC. 376 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: It's kind of hard to compete for that national championship. 377 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: Verd So was that when the Big twelve kind of 378 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: got blown up. 379 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 5: To be at Pack twelve, it was crazy, like it's 380 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 5: in the summer. I mean, for me, I grew up 381 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 5: on the West Coast, grew up and I'm from sun California. 382 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: I grew up a SC fan. 383 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: Years of me watching the Pack ten Pac twelve just 384 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: get dispersed and just leave. 385 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: It was crazy. 386 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but I mean you you're in a greater 387 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: opportunity to have success by going to a national championship 388 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: being here, especially after what they did last year. 389 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: You know, we'll be excited to watch and see what 390 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: you do. 391 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: Definitely, when when we found out I was interviewed, I'm like, 392 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: that's my dog. 393 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I'm like. 394 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm for really Laney Walker Delaney was fired out. 395 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was fed like, yeah, that was my dog. Yeah. 396 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you got to do this interview 397 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: and we got to meet you, and man, I like 398 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: everything you're doing. 399 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: So you know, we wish you the best. I appreciate 400 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: you to find the stead real quick. Y'all didn't play? 401 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Uh if y'all play Colorado. Last year we played Colorado. 402 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: They remember they Colorado Oregon. No Colorado's they start falling down? 403 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: When when did you all play that played them like 404 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. I got you. 405 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: I got you, because if y'all played them earlier, I'll 406 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: be curious like all the everything that was kind of 407 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: coming with Colorado Prime and everything else, crazy reality going 408 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: against and be like, yo, you know you're like wanting 409 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: to take everybody down. 410 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 4: There's Hella cameras on the field. That's all I remember. 411 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: Like I got to the field and it was packed 412 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 5: and like cameras everywhere, like Hella media. 413 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: I was like, damn, it's crazy. 414 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: Constant show. Yeah, constant show. It was wild, Like I 415 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: ain't never seen that many cameras on the field. 416 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: It was. 417 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: It was wild, Like on players, it was crazy following plays. 418 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 5: I think they had Kirk Franklin there. I was like, damn, 419 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 5: Hella celebrities and Kirk Franklin like k yeahs and stuff 420 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 5: come out. 421 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: Like oh damn this this Hella fire. Kirk Franklin. 422 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: They let a lot of yeah, they let a lot 423 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: of stuff. Dudes will be like doing their vlogs and stuff. 424 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: It was all types of celebrities on the FI. I'm like, Yo, 425 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: they led celebrities on the field during the game. 426 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was like, Man, who's coming to 427 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: the game. I'm like, the celebrities gonna be at the game? 428 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Like who? Your thoughts? Your thoughts on not making the 429 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: college football playoffs? You guys want you guys? 430 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously I wasn't on the team, but I think 431 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: I think, honestly, I think they should have made it. 432 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: I think that sucks. I mean, when you go. 433 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 5: Underfeel, I don't think they should have made it here. 434 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: I think they just like sitting back, didn't get in. 435 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: I think it sucks. I think I knew. I mean, 436 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: I know in Florida State about saying. 437 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: Trouble. 438 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: I know, yeah, about saying a tough position. 439 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we always got we gotta mess with people every time. 440 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I mean my situation with that, the 441 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: Florida State situation, you know, I don't it was a 442 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: tough one th quarterback. I think that was a big play, 443 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: but yeah, it was. It was the play. 444 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 4: That's what that was. 445 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: Like, they have the top two guys, the top two 446 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: cats went down. 447 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So that hurts you. I think that, 448 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: but you know, Alabama is the Alabama ball. 449 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 450 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: I was just hoping I wanted Michigan to go down, 451 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: and so in my subjective personal opinion, I thought Alabama 452 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: was more of a viable option, a healthier option to 453 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: take down Michigan. 454 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: So there was nothing against Florida States. 455 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: Then against Florida State. I just didn't have trust me. 456 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: I wanted y'all. Yeah, I know that's that's better though. 457 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: I'm glad they're doing that because they realized they jacked 458 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: Florida State, so they was like, we gotta put twelve. 459 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 4: You know, you want to championship and don't go like, 460 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: I mean, what else are you supposed to do? 461 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 5: You know, even with an injury with you and Travis 462 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 5: getting hurt, Like, man, when you win your conference without 463 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 5: your starting quarterback. 464 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 4: I mean, that's gotta say a lot. 465 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was an unfortunate I mean, yeah, yeah, 466 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: that was a tough situation. 467 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: But hey, thank you, man, we appreciate you coming on 468 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: to watch. We got to come out. We was we 469 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: was out last night. 470 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 4: We hit the township. 471 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: I don't think he goes to that type of stuff, 472 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 3: but I heard about it just like, you know, I. 473 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 4: Just said township. He like, what go to that? 474 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: Going out? 475 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 4: Tell you he don't do that stuff? 476 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: Is being a yeah great the great athlete? 477 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 4: Yeah athlete, Yes, that's absolutely bro. 478 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: Do they Miami in Northwestern didn make you watch the 479 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: Year of the Bull for each season? 480 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: No, make you watch it, but you watched it. 481 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: I watched it. 482 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a stable Yeah, I watched it. Definitely watched that. 483 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 6: She was crazy you yeah? 484 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 485 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: Or the shower or the shower postgame meetings are they 486 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: a little different now? 487 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? 488 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 4: A little different? 489 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 6: When well, I was there with coach maxes that it's 490 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 6: basically the same. He just he can't move as much 491 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 6: like coach Max. He was a deeper coordinator on new videos. 492 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 6: He was the head coach when I was there, but 493 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 6: he was he was exactly the same when it came 494 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 6: to screaming and cuts and all that. But but he 495 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 6: couldn't really slop people, you. 496 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 4: Know, running around. We can't really move as well as 497 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 4: did you ever try? You? Yeah? 498 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: Everybody, everybody get it. 499 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 6: I remember one time we was after like our first 500 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 6: two games. It was in the gym, and he was 501 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 6: going player for player, like even all the star players 502 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 6: on the team like it was me Cam Kitcheners from 503 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 6: Miami to safety Ramelo Grenson. He telling everybody what they're 504 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 6: doing wrong. He came, he said, Patrick, I don't care 505 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 6: how many touchdowns he school, you still ain't doing nothing 506 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 6: this year. 507 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: He was one of those type of players, like everybody respect. 508 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: How did they feel being rookie defensive Rookie of the 509 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 3: year for the ACC It felt great because like just 510 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: going through the season, I didn't even know I was 511 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: how it turns to even wind over. 512 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 6: I was just trying to play in just put my 513 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 6: name out there and make plays for the team. And 514 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 6: at the end of the season, coach Novel called me. 515 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 6: All the coaches just called me out. Woke up one morning. 516 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 6: I thought I was in trouble, but everybody called me. 517 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 6: They congratulated me, and I just felt great. I felt 518 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 6: love from the similar family and everybody. 519 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: And that's what's up. Like they come out be rookie 520 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: defensive Rookie of the year, ball out, do what you 521 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: do and then to come back, you know what I mean, 522 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: and still be successful here and uh, you know, we 523 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: got to talk about it because we heard about it. 524 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: But the portal, why did you mention the portal when 525 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: after having so much success here in Florida State. 526 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 6: It was a personal matter with like us and my 527 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 6: family when it came to certain stuff with and I 528 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 6: and all that. But I had to put my mind 529 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 6: to it just knowing that then I really is at 530 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 6: the next level for real, and I love Florida State. 531 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 6: So it was like, I know, it was a big 532 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: mistake on mind behind like when I think about it 533 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 6: some day, I'll be trying to think about it. When 534 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 6: I do think about it, I know why I messed up. 535 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: Money can to that because you're a Miami guy, so 536 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: you Florida all day, like being here in Florida State, 537 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 3: not too far from your family. But I understand what 538 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: you're saying about situations with your family and you got 539 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: to do the right thing for your family to be successful. 540 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 4: So I understand that. 541 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: When we read that, I just wanted to hear it 542 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: because she was like, no, I'm not hitting the portal. 543 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: I'm actually gonna stay. 544 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: And I see that as a big thing because you 545 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: look at some of these players that's coming out of 546 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: Florida State right now, top ten draft picks, dudes moving 547 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: up in their stock, and you are one of those 548 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: guys that's on the board already, it's being can be 549 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 3: in the top ten. You know what I mean if you, 550 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: you know, keep doing what you're doing, practice your craft, 551 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: and be successful as you are here in Florida. Stay 552 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 3: And I see that just by watching your film and uh, 553 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: the way you go out there and play the game. 554 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, how how quickly do you feel like you 555 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: were acclimated to the to the game speed or being 556 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: out there on game. They coming from Miami Northwestern, you 557 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: obviously played at a high level in high school, But 558 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: how quickly did you realize like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm 559 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: still the same cat that I was. I was still 560 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: the same cat, and I'll be able to catch on 561 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: all this stuff quick. 562 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: It was really the year I won the Richie of 563 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: the Year. 564 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 6: We was playing against Louisville and I know, y'all know 565 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 6: jer Verse that saying he had got hurt. And so 566 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 6: when he got hurt, he just came off a big 567 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 6: game to LSU. So everybody looking at him like, oh, 568 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 6: he's the guy, He's the guy. Like even I was 569 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 6: like that still my god to this day. But he 570 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 6: had got hurt. He had a little mind, a little 571 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 6: injury that he couldn't play for the rest of the game, 572 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 6: and I just knew, like I knew something. They needed 573 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 6: somebody to step up at the time, and I had nothing. 574 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 6: Went in like I ain't even ask my coach if 575 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 6: I was in, and I just went in and I 576 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 6: made a player on the first very play I was 577 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 6: and it was a screen. I ran down the screen. 578 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 6: I made the play, and that's when my mind it 579 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 6: just slowed down, knowing like okay, Pat, you got this. 580 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 6: And I just went on the rest of it again. 581 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 6: I just made it plays. Then the next week came 582 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 6: and then I just went on from there. 583 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: Just started getting more wraps. When you were you ran 584 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: in and nobody was even saying. 585 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 6: Nobody saying nothing. He just I looked at him, I said, man, 586 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 6: and I went and out there, and then the next 587 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 6: week I had got my first sack, and then I 588 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 6: just went up there from there. 589 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: So if you had twenty eight solo tackles, seven sacks, 590 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: two force fumbles. 591 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: Several people used yeah, like. 592 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, fresh, I mean. 593 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: Hey, that's what you want to see when somebody go down, You. 594 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: Going the game. 595 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: Ball like that. He was nervous when you first went in. 596 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 4: A little bit. 597 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 6: It was a big game to playing Louisville on a 598 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 6: Friday night, everybody watching. We was our first time winning 599 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 6: the all white uniformia. Yeah, I was a little nervous. 600 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah. 601 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: Take us to the moment where you guys are all 602 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: sitting around watching for the College Forball playoff and Florida 603 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: State doesn't get picked. 604 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 6: I mean, it was very heartbreaking just knowing like we 605 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 6: worked so hard from January all the way to December 606 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 6: just to try to show the world what Florida State 607 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 6: football is all about. And it really hurt me because 608 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 6: of my own main man, Jordan Travis. I know he 609 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 6: felt like in the moment, like everything was his fault. 610 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 6: I knew what he was going through the first few 611 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 6: weeks he got hurt like it was really because of him, 612 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 6: because I knew he felt like, oh if Alli never 613 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 6: got hurt, we was gone in the playoffs. That's what 614 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 6: it really was on my mind. I knew it was 615 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 6: hurt for the whole team too, but I just I 616 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 6: felt so bad for Jay trying because it wasn't his fault. 617 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: For real, It's just football. That's so true. 618 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: What he just said is kind of true, Like to 619 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: be that player and didn't hear everyone say that's the 620 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: reason why they didn't get in. 621 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah, did you. 622 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: Guys have an inkling that y'all weren't gonna get picked him? 623 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: I mean, where did you guys feel confident? 624 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 6: I felt like we felt confident coming off the Louisville 625 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 6: game because our defense we played so good, and we 626 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 6: had a true freshman out there quarterback respect the block game. 627 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 4: It was his first game really out there. You know, 628 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot. 629 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 6: Of kids can't just go out there as a quarterback 630 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 6: and just go out there and just play like Joan 631 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 6: Travis on their first game out there. And then our 632 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: second sing quarterback he got a percussion in the Floorida 633 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 6: game too, So that just made our defense play so 634 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 6: good that game. So knowing that that was our mindset 635 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 6: when we go in these playoffs. If we get into 636 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 6: the playoffs, we just gonna play as hard as we 637 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 6: can on defense. 638 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 4: If they can't score, they can't win. And that's what 639 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 4: we did. We hold. 640 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 6: We held Louisville six points, two field goals, And that's 641 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 6: that was really our mindset. 642 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 3: That's real, that's really how that scenario win. Starting quarterback 643 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: go out extreme quarterback concussion started true freshman and the 644 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 3: Louisville Game championship. You get you know what I'm saying, 645 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: and it's still get overlooked. 646 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was a tough I'm sure it sucked. 647 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 4: It does. 648 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: I mean from hearing it from they mouth, it's sound 649 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: even worse just because it's like. 650 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: The result is ultimately out of your control. 651 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 3: Nothing y'all went what was it twelve and oh thirteen 652 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: and oh thirteen and oh that was the first time. 653 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: What happened? What happened with the Georgia game. 654 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 4: Georgia game. 655 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 6: I felt like, it's just Georgia, though the Georgia people 656 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 6: know that if we had our full team out there, 657 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 6: it would have been a complete different game. 658 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: We just had. 659 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 6: It was really how many starters on the on the 660 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 6: D line, it was one started out me and then 661 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 6: linebackers we oh we had d little one starter, you 662 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 6: know dB only one starter sha He Brown in the 663 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 6: same anything. It was for the offense, it's just all 664 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 6: our guns felt like they had to go put together 665 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 6: their training and get right and stay healthy for when 666 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 6: they come for their pro day and draft time. So 667 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 6: I respect them boys for doing what they had to 668 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 6: do because that's that's them boys career. 669 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: But that's all it was. 670 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 3: I mean, because y'all that y'all kind of looked at 671 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: the game as meaningless pretty much because they like, we 672 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: just we should have been in the national championship. Since 673 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: we been in a national championship, we about to go 674 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 3: get ready for this draft. And I understand that, and 675 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: that was probably like a team decision, because I like 676 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: that's how we heard. 677 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: It was like a. 678 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 6: Team decision where like, again, we're not gonna play so 679 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 6: and then Georgia came out with that mindset, Oh, we 680 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 6: should have got in too, so we're finn show the world. 681 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 6: Yeah we finished show y'all what we're finna do to 682 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 6: Florida State to get in with with their whole team, right, 683 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 6: So that's it was just it was just I wish 684 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 6: we could have had our whole team against them. They 685 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 6: was out there talking trash all. I just couldn't even 686 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 6: say nothing because I feel me I could have been like, 687 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 6: next year, bro, what we do next year? 688 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: Growing up in uh uh ain't going to Miami Northwestern? 689 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: What were some of your favorite schools growing up? Was 690 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: Florida State your favorite? And that's what you want to 691 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: play for. 692 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 6: It wasn't Miami was as crazy as Florida State wasn't 693 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 6: my favorite. 694 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 4: I used to like Miami. My daddy. It was the 695 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 4: biggest Florida State fan. 696 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 6: Ever since I've been able to talk, he'd been talking 697 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 6: about Florida State Deon Sam's guys like that, even when 698 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 6: they won the national championship. I watched the game with him. 699 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 6: He'd been his dream was for me to go to 700 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 6: Florida State. You don't matter what what sport I played, whatever, 701 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 6: He just wanted me to come play for Florida State. 702 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 6: I really was a big Miami fan growing up, just 703 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 6: because growing up in Miami is right there. You see 704 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 6: it every weekend. Your grandma got it on until he 705 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 6: got it on. And then what's crazy is nah, my 706 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 6: whole family don't even wear Miami no more. Everybody West 707 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 6: Florida State. It's just but it was a yeah, it 708 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 6: wasn't really a dream. It was a dream school just 709 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 6: knowing it's in Florida. 710 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: Right, But it was Were they close? Were they close 711 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: in your recruiting process? Like, were you close to going 712 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: to Miami or somewhere else over Florida State? 713 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 4: Not Miami? 714 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 6: Because I guess like no direspect to the new coach style, 715 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 6: but the old coach style they scheme was a little different. 716 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: In their positions. 717 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 6: They seen defent ends that's like outside linebacker and stand 718 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 6: up linebackers. So I guess they didn't really see me 719 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 6: as one of them big interior detail because. 720 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: You know, I was very skinny and stuff like that. 721 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 6: So there's no disrespect that like Mario crystaball or nothing 722 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 6: of it, because I know, like he's a big like 723 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 6: he could recruit a lot of people down there, so 724 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 6: I know if he was like coach, it would have 725 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 6: been a little closer. 726 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: But nah, they didn't really recruit me at all for real. 727 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: But Jo Pops really was like Florida State, It don't 728 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: even matter like all these other schools Florida States where 729 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: you're going pretty. 730 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 6: Much like you got on that zoon with coach novel, 731 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 6: just listening to him talk and even if how bad 732 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 6: I record was he had on first got here though, 733 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 6: so I wasn't really paying attention to that. I was 734 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 6: just focused on the way he talked and Holloway coach 735 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 6: O'Dell talked because he was here for so but just 736 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 6: listening to him on that zoom. 737 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 4: It just it clicked. 738 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, what what team in the A C C Do 739 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: you look forward to playing two most this year? 740 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 6: This year, I feel like it's gonna be Clemson because 741 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 6: it's gonna be a big game. It's gonna be a 742 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 6: solid it's gonna be here. And you know our new 743 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 6: quarterback DJ I know him like in his mind what 744 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 6: type of game it's gonna be for him. So I 745 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 6: know what type of game that's gonna be when we 746 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 6: play Clemson, when we play Miami again. 747 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be the two big games there. 748 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: You gotta you got any any other question for him? No? 749 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: I think everything you answered was great and we had 750 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: a great time talking to you. 751 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: Man. 752 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: I look forward to seeing you doing your thing. So 753 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: you're gonna be a star in the NFL. Man, just 754 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: keep your head straight and keep grinding. 755 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: That's but it's nothing we got to hit in in 756 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: the interview. 757 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: Who is it smelliest guy in the locker room? Present 758 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: a boy, dude, Kennon. We'll get right. We got to 759 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: smell goods. We brought the goodies, so needs it the most. 760 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, you gotta say one of the big 761 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 6: guys the old line of d Line. 762 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: It's one of one of the three hundred pound guys. 763 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: But I feel like we got it going. We're good. 764 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: But just for I'm gonna just say, Julian Urmela, I'm 765 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: just trying to get you right. 766 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: That's a free shout out with no shout out. 767 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: Pat Thank you, bro. This is awesome man. That wish 768 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: you all all the luck in the world. And yeah, 769 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: I hope you become a monster in the NFL because 770 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: we'll know we got to sit with you like right 771 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: out of here, a c C Freshman of the Year. 772 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: But but thank you, man, seriously, thank. 773 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 4: You, Thank you. Bros. 774 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: Photo