1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: M coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage 2 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Campus in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on 3 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: eight fifty esp in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. Alright, let's do it live on 5 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: a very special first Friday edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. 6 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Joining me here in studio, and in this case I 7 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: am very merely bow. The great Z is here, Gerade 8 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Cherry is here, and the voice of the Cleveland Browns, 9 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: Jim Donovan is here. They are here because we are 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: here to announce your new look game day radio team. 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: This starts in These are the men involved on the 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network. Z goes upstairs taking 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: over of the legendary Doug Deacon. An incredible promotion. I'm 14 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: so happy for he lots to get in on that. 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Gerard steps into zase spot on the sidelines, and of 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: course captained by no better captain than the great Jim Donovan. Uh, 17 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: let's start there, Jim, because this has been uh. This 18 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: is your voice, this is this is your team, and 19 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: now the gentleman is gonna be a part of it. Uh. 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: As we go to evolve from what it has been 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: for so long to this, Um, what have you? What's 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: it been like for you with the process. Well, I'm 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: really happy. I'm really happy for these guys and I 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: and I hope, I hope it's a big day in 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: their broadcasting careers because I can remember back in when 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: I got the nod to become the radio voice of 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and you know, second to none, it 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: was the greatest day in my broadcasting career. And uh, 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: it's still send shivers up my spine. Uh, to get 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: that call that you're gonna represent a team. It was 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: something that when I grew up, I always wanted to 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: be the voice of a team, and then to become 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: the voice of a legendary team like the Cleveland Browns 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: is unbelievable. So for Nathan and Gerard, I hope it's 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: as exciting for you guys as it was for me 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: back in Now for me personally, uh, you know, this 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be a great and exciting time. Nathan and 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: I did a game a while ago. Nathan just reminded 39 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: me it was five years ago. It seems like it 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: was five weeks ago, but it was five years ago 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: over in London when he was pressed into service. Doug 42 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: couldn't make the trip over to London, and Nathan came 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: up in a pinch hit situation and really nailed it 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: that day. And it was a great feeling. Right away. 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: I kind of went, wow, this is kind of the 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: chemistry here is pretty good. I will say every Sunday 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: afternoon when I would walk out of First Energy Stadium 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: after a home game, I would flick on the radio 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: and Gerard would be doing the postgame show and someone 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: would be saying, Hey, Gerard, why didn't they run the 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: ball a little bit more? You know? And I thought 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: he handled that great. And so his expertise are being 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: a player and and going to the sideline position, which 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: Nathan handled with you know, great great experiencing and great 55 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: reporting skills. Uh, and Gerard will be able to do 56 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: that and add even more to it. I'm very, very excited. 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: And for the guy that leaves us after we were 58 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: together for twenty three years, Doug Deacon, um, I uh, 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, gonna miss him a great deal. But I 60 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: welcome these two guys. This is gonna be a lot 61 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: of fun. I don't know, I'm nervous even looking at you. 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I am because I'm you know, I I think this 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: is a tremendous thing. What's happened. And you know I 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: love you, and UM, I've thought since I've done this show, UM, 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: that you are the voice of the fans for this 66 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: fan base, this tremendous fan base, and you are beloved 67 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: and rightfully so. UM. And I think a few people 68 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: who are more worthy of this type of honor than you. 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: I am so thrilled for you, buddy. We've been together 70 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: a long time in this show. This is this is appropriate. 71 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: You will crush this, truly crush it. I mean that, 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: thank you very much. And yeah, I mean it's crazy, 73 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: it feels very surreal. I when I was told I 74 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: was when I got it to you said you got 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: the call. When I got the call, I got very emotional. 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: It was one of those things I've like, you wanted 77 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: to do something like this. And since that day in 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: London when we were there calling a game, by my 79 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: first game ever in the crowd. We're not in a booth, 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: we were no booth, no monitor, no boards either in 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: the stadium because it was a soccer sive, so that 82 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: we couldn't really get a replay. And and from that moment, though, 83 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: I it's something that I want to do. I never 84 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: knew if I would get the opportunity, and and I 85 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: am just humbled and honored beyond belief. I know that 86 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: Doug is an absolute legend, and so you can't those 87 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: are shoes too big to ever even try to fill. 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna try to do kind of put my 89 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: own stamp on things, and you know, bring people a 90 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: perspective from my time here in this organization out ten 91 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: years with this team and the relationships I had with 92 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: the coaches and players, to try to bring some of 93 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: those stories into the booth. And you know, I will 94 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: work my butt off to be prepared to make sure 95 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: everybody loves it, and and I have a little bit 96 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: of energy every now and then, so I'm sure that 97 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: that Jim and I will have some fun with that 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: up there. But I'm thrilled. This is more than a 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: dream come to through. And I am so grateful for 100 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: the support of the organization of Jim uh to work 101 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: with Gerard and we've done it many times as a 102 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: part of this broadcast, and of course the best fans 103 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: at all professional sports, because it is such an honor 104 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: to be a part of something so iconic. I'm gonna 105 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: stay in my lane. It's the Jim Donovan Show, and 106 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: because he is, he is the man, and I can't 107 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: wait to just be a part of it. Like we've 108 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: had the worst winner, so I don't want to wish 109 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: some of the way, but I can't wait for September. 110 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Don't don't speed summer, brother. You know we're gonna be 111 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: cart passed until July. Uh, Gerard, You know I think 112 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: about I talked playing career and you say, all right, 113 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: what's my why? What I'm gonna do? You've had a 114 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: very successful run on the radio here obviously locally um 115 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: and and in terms of the various roles, this is 116 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: adding something to it. And I think the idea of 117 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: a former player on the sideline that adds a lot 118 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: of punch, um and and how will you approach it? 119 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: And what does this mean for you? Oh? It means 120 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: everything to me. It's a great opportunity one to work 121 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: with guys I've worked with in the past. And I feel, 122 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: like Jim just said, chemistry and enjoying the process and 123 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: when you go to work sending yourself. Do I enjoy 124 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: working with these guys? Am? I allowed? To be who 125 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: I am and represent what I have to say and 126 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: I can say. And it's each interacting that I've had 127 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: with them, I'm me. So you won't get a deviation 128 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: from that whatsoever. But what you will get is a 129 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: player's perspective. And if you've ever watched the game with me, 130 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm watching the sidelines. I'm looking at body language. I'm 131 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: looking at how's this guy approaching his cleats? Is he 132 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: tying them? Is he changing them? Little fine nuances It 133 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: seems like much, but they're everything. So paying attention to 134 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: the small details. I do that naturally, and on top 135 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: of that, whatever I can do to help assentuate the 136 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: points that they're trying to make, I'm gonna do that 137 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: and back my guys up. So I'm looking forward to 138 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: it as an honor. It's a privilege to work with 139 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: these guys. And again talking about be excited. Now, I 140 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: won't go to the point of getting myself kicked off 141 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: the sidelines like somebody, but I will tell you this, 142 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: I am so invested in it, loved the Browns and 143 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: what it represents, being a part of this iconic organization. 144 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: Looking forward to and, like Nathan said September can't get 145 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: here fast enough. Yeah. And in jim my goodness, what 146 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: a season. I mean this, Uh, this is a snake pit. 147 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: You've got all the things that this team has done. 148 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: The addition of Deshaun Watson, the top five quarterback in 149 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: this league, uh in a f C, which is just 150 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: an absolute meat grinder. H the excitement for the season. 151 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: And we're not wishing summer to go away. We want 152 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: to enjoy summer a lot. But this season has the 153 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: potential will be an incredible one. He really does, and um, 154 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, uh, and I know last season we didn't 155 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: hit the mark the way we thought because, uh, you know, 156 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. Um, but sometimes you learn 157 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: from that, you know, you learned from a tough season 158 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: and uh, and you come into the next season kind 159 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: of like what happened in nineteen and then in twenty 160 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: it was really good, right, And they learned from what 161 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: happened in nineteen and how they didn't hit the point 162 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: of where they wanted to be. And and I think 163 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: now you look at and you you can't help but 164 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: be excited, um, and you can't feel that. Guys look 165 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: back at last year and say, gosh, maybe that one 166 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: slipped away. We're not gonna let that happen again. So 167 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: it is very exciting from the radio side, you know, 168 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: and I think you know Nathan experiences it, uh down 169 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: on the sideline and gerade certainly as a player did. 170 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: But um and up on the broadcast booth. A great 171 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: radio broadcast in an NFL game is kind of like 172 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: a symphony of sound, and it really is. And you 173 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: bring that it's it's an amazing feeling in a pack stadium. Um, 174 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, moments before the game, or as momentum in 175 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: a game changes on a turnover or a great play, 176 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: and how you orchestrate that and the chemistry that comes 177 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: and how the different parts of the broadcast fit. Um, 178 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: you know, we'll get into a rhythm together and it 179 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: will be very very natural, I think, and we'll find 180 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: out how each other work and and how it works 181 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: the best, and it really becomes a great thing that 182 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: people I think it very comfortable with as a listener. 183 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: And that's why I think they've really enjoy their local 184 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: broadcast because they get very comfortable with the people who 185 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: are a part of it. And so you spend Sunday 186 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: afternoons with three guys that you would sit beside maybe 187 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: in the dog pound, you know, if you're going to 188 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: the game, and I think that that's the owl, and 189 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get over that goal line. There's a 190 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: voice that you know there. It's a friendly voice, c E. 191 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: But a voice of God to you know, it's in 192 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: your ear. And I know that's something that you'll bring 193 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: to the team when you when you think about, you know, 194 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: we have fun here on the show talking about the 195 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: scores and stuff with the scores. Are the scores for reasons, right, um. 196 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: And the insight that you have within the organization is 197 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: something that I think will be an incredible asset to 198 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: this team. And that's what I tried to bring when 199 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: I was on the sideline. And then Jim knows. When 200 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: you're on the sideline and Drod, you will find out 201 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: it goes very quickly because all of a sudden, you 202 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: may think you have a great point to make and 203 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: then they break the huddle and you gotta get it 204 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: back up to Jim so that he can paint the 205 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: picture like only he can. So I'm I'm excited to have, 206 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, not much more time, but maybe a little 207 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: more time be able to share some of those stories, 208 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: especially about our players and even into the preseason, you know, 209 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: kind of give that background on guys fighting to make 210 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: the roster, my relationship with the coaches, and and we 211 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: have an incredible staff. We've been very generous with me, 212 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: uh in terms of helping me learn about the game 213 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: so that I can speak intelligently about what we're seeing 214 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: out there on the field, but also to understand some 215 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: of those things that are going on in the building 216 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: that will translate to what you see on the field 217 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: on Sundays. And by the way, I'm thrilled also to 218 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: be up there because when you're up to you can 219 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: see the field, you can see the game, you can 220 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: see the route concepts unfold, you can see the defensive 221 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: coverage is unfold. And it's gonna be pretty exciting, I 222 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: think to be able to see that, bring that and 223 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: kind of add some of those points about what I 224 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: know the tendencies and get into some of the numbers 225 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: of what we should expect every Sunday from this Brown team, which, 226 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: by the ways, we were talking earlier Jim, when you 227 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: know Denzel was asked about how great is he, He's like, Hey, 228 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: we're pretty good too, you know, And I think we 229 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: are gonna be a pretty darn good football team to 230 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: talk about. As he told you anything about wardrobe already 231 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: the second half, Like you gotta survive, man, you know, 232 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: some sort of waterproof is gonna be required. The one, 233 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: the one. I mean, you had three different types of weather, 234 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: three different extreme weathers in one game, uh, the game 235 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: against Houston, A couple of I mean, so that's that's 236 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: what you're in for. So wardrobe wise, Gerade, we want 237 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: to make sure you're on top of that. Buddy. Oh, 238 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: I'll be ready to go for that because I have 239 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: tricks from the trade of being a player to keep 240 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: yourself warm, because you gotta remember with the player, obviously 241 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: you're not fully covered. So with that trollium jelly works, 242 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of different things that you can employ. 243 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: There's lots of different things that you can put in 244 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: practice that will help you stay warm. But ultimately, like 245 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: I said, being on the sidelines for what nine years 246 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: as a professional player, you know what to expect. You know, 247 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: certain days it could be brutally cole out there and 248 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: also doing a pregame shows I had to learn too 249 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: that you have to come prepare with your dress code 250 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: as well, So believe exactly exactly, Jim. I know, I 251 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: know you've you've experienced the Z as well in terms 252 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: of um what it will mean when I mean, you 253 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: dare to dream when you think about winning it all 254 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: and and being that, and I always think you're masterful 255 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: at this. You are the conductor when you think of 256 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: overseeing it all. I think that percha is appropriate for you. 257 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: And the way that you called the run to the 258 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: playoffs a couple of years ago, we are in for 259 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: now a pretty remarkable run. It seems you don't want 260 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: to put the cart before the horse. But this is 261 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: a young team, good cap situation, incredible top five in 262 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: the league quarterback. All of those things start to line up. 263 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: You think about, this is gonna be the group of 264 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: records that ought to call call really one of the 265 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: golden Eras and Browns football. Yeah. I have to tell 266 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: you I dream about a lot, but I dream about 267 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I have walked around the Metropark down at 268 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: around Hinckley Lake for like sixteen years, and the Browns 269 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: have they have a dynasty down there because I recreate 270 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: games and called play by play walking the dogs around 271 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: around the lake and and that's how I kind of 272 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: get into the rhythm of everything. So I mean I 273 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: dream of that. You know, you bring up a really 274 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: good point, Um, and I want to go back to 275 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: just Doug for a moment. If you really think about 276 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: what Doug did throughout his career, minus the sixty four 277 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: championship game, which he wasn't a part of, but if 278 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: you think of the things that he was a part 279 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: of that are just amazing. I mean, he was part 280 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: of the Cardiac Kids, he was part of that. He 281 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: played in that epic Ice Bowl Radar red right eighty 282 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: eight playoff game. He was a part of that. And 283 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: then he seamlessly went up into the broadcast booth and 284 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: he became part of the Kozar era and those incredible 285 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: playoff games, the double overtime game against the Jets, those 286 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: a f C Championship games against the Denver Broncos, and 287 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: then you know, ushered in the new era. And I 288 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: would always say to him, Doug, I want to be 289 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: calling those games that you were a part of, both 290 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: as a player and and as a broadcaster up in 291 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,239 Speaker 1: that old rickety wooden press box that they had broadcast 292 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: booth on the top of that old stadium down on 293 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: the Lake Municipal Stadium and he was a part of that, 294 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: and that's what we want to do. You want to 295 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: be there for the call of that game. And like 296 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: I said, the day they made the playoffs, in the 297 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: win and you're in game against Pittsburgh, the only thing 298 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: that was missing was all of the people because you 299 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: could have only imagined the sound factory that would have 300 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: been on that afternoon as those seconds and they field, 301 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, got that first down and the game was 302 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: over and they were really going to the playoffs and 303 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: what that would have been like Now for the fourteen 304 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: thousand that were there, it was something they'll never forget. 305 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: But you know, I want to be there and I 306 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: know these guys do too, when it's for real and 307 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: it's full and it's really the moment that nobody will 308 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: ever forget as a Browns fan. And you want to 309 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: call that, well you will and that will be I think. 310 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: The the other thing to note here, folks, is uh 311 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: that none of you are Northeast Ohioans by birth. You're not. 312 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: You came here and every one of you have the 313 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: talent to do this anywhere else, and you chose to 314 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: do it here. And part of the reason you do 315 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: it here is it matters a little bit more here, 316 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: and I know no one knows that more than you 317 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: in terms of what you see, in terms of the 318 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: show we do in the experiences. You have the conduit 319 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: from the fans the organization, but it's that passion that 320 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: and the responsibility I think it comes with serving that 321 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: passion that is so critical to what you guys are 322 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: gonna do going forward. You're right about that, And that's 323 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: the word that you know when they asked me and 324 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: I gave some comments about you know this that will 325 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: I guess being the press release and that's the word 326 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: I use with responsibility, of responsibility the best fans and 327 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: I think all of professional sports. As you pointed out, Yeah, 328 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: I grew up in the Bay Area. Gerarde spend some 329 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: time out in the Bay Area as well, and you know, 330 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: I grew up in the Joe Montana era and it 331 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: means so much more here than it did in the 332 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: Bear even though that was one of the greatest runs 333 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: any organizations had in a decade. It means so much 334 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: more here. And you're talking about being there, and you know, 335 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: I was one of the few people on the planets 336 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: literally that were at the playoff game in Pittsburgh because 337 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: there was literally nobody there, and the opportunity to get 338 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: to have that happen now with this team, for this 339 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: city and everybody together, I think it's so special to 340 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: be just a small part of bringing that voice to 341 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: the people during those times. I think it is gonna 342 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: be I mean, you get goosebumps just just thinking about 343 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: who else said. And one of the things for me, 344 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: I went to a high school where football didn't matter. 345 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: I went to a college where football didn't matter. Now, 346 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: obviously when I got to the pro level I went 347 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: to it's a couple of teams that weren't that good, 348 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: but football did's somewhat matter. But to live in the community, 349 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: well one, I've been embraced and I'm not from here. 350 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: It's just tremendous. Because people ask me all the time, 351 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: why do you live in Northeast Ohio? Why don't you 352 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: go back to California. I tell them I love the 353 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: sense of community that you have here in Northeast Ohio 354 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: and what it represents. And it's been nothing but great 355 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: towards me and my family and my friends that I've 356 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: built through living here. Has just been incredible. But the 357 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: other part of it, too is just being a part 358 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: of a situation where football really does matter and actually 359 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: living in an environment where it is seven. We could 360 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: be oh in sixteen, we could be one in fifteen, 361 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: but it still matters. It's still permeates everyone's consciousness around 362 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: the community. So I love being a part of this, 363 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: and I'm excited about being a part of this. And 364 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: I could talk ball all day every day and guess 365 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: what it's embraced around here when you go out in 366 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: this city. I'm sure when you go anywhere in the city, 367 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: if I go anywhere in the city, you go anywhere 368 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: you go anywhere in the city, people want to come 369 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: up to you and talk about the Browns the entire 370 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: time you are anywhere in public, because that's how much 371 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: it means the city. It doesn't matter if it's January, 372 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, if it's June doesn't matter, if it's August, September, 373 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't It is a Brown's town. And there's something 374 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: that is palpable and tangible about that love that this 375 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: fan base has for this historic organization. And to be 376 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: somebody who's gotten to become a part of that and 377 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: I've done it on the sidelines for eight seasons and 378 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: now to get to come up into the booth with 379 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Jim is gonna be me just I still can't believe 380 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: it's real. Like by the reason I want to get 381 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: this September because once I'm actually doing it will actually 382 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: feel real. But I am. I'm so excited. And Jim, 383 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: we were talking before the show about your growing up 384 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: in Boston and the legendary voices you heard and one 385 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: of the great sports cities in the world in Boston, 386 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: and and the passion that they had for the Bruins 387 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: and later the Celtics with Bird in the eighties and 388 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: the Red Sox forever. Uh, that is all kind of 389 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: wrapped up here. I mean you're getting that. That's that, 390 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: that's the football version is right here. Yeah. And when 391 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: I first came here and and I interviewed here in 392 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland to get the job, that was in um I 393 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it right away. I Mean, the Bronx were 394 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: coming off kind of a socio year. Marty Schottenheimer had 395 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: become the head coach of the team. He had been 396 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: the interim head coach at the end of that season. 397 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: Coach Are then changed everything when he made the announcement, Hey, 398 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave Miami. I want to come into the 399 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: NFL and I want to play in Cleveland. And I 400 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: just couldn't believe, you know, the reaction that everybody was 401 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: just counting down to go out to uh, to go 402 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: out to training camp to to see him, and it 403 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: was like a rock star and they all were like 404 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: rock stars. And it's just continued no matter what the 405 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: record is, like you said, and it has been a 406 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: little lean at times, but it's just amazing how it 407 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: just everybody has their arms around it and and everybody 408 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: worries about it, they fret about it, they celebrate it. Uh. 409 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: They take the losses with the team, they celebrate the 410 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: wins with the team, and it's absolutely Uh. It's a 411 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: very very special situation. And I know it is like 412 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: that in other NFL towns, but it's very unique to 413 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: this town. It really is, and I think people around 414 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: the country realize it, and it has such a following. 415 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: It's so unbelievable when we go on the road and 416 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: we see the Browns fans come out in whatever city 417 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: you're at, and how they remember it and how they 418 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: remember the great days and how they want those days 419 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: to come back, and and I think they are here. Yeah, 420 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: I think it's it's the fact that Canton's a little 421 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: an hour down the road, you know, and Paul Brown 422 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: and all of it. The connection of all of it 423 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: is incredible. Well, I'm thrilled for all of you guys. Uh, 424 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: this is this is really awesome. On you know, I 425 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: gotta if I can slip a quick story, and I 426 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: hope these guys have had a great day because the 427 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: day I got the Brown's job back in uh and 428 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: they were bringing me downtown to the Blue Point, nice 429 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: restaurant right to offer me the job. And it was 430 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: something that I had waited for all my life, but 431 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: specifically for the Brown's job, for about a year of 432 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: auditions and interviews and extra auditions and things like that. 433 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: So finally it was the greatest day to get the 434 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: knight that you got the job. And I wake up 435 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: that morning and I have two roaring toothaches and I 436 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: go down to the Blue Point and I'm sitting there 437 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: and they're saying congratulations, and I'm going thanks, thanks very much, 438 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: thank you very much. And I did everything, I mean, 439 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: I had advil. I even went back to my Irish 440 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: upbringing and took a shot of whiskey to try and 441 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: kill the pain. And here was the greatest day of 442 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: my career here, I mean as a kid holding the 443 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: tape recorder in Boston garden, you know, and then sending 444 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: the tapes out and doing all the you know, all 445 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: the stops bow that we've done in this crazy business. 446 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: And I'm finally I'm the voice of the Cleveland Browns 447 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: and I really can't celebrate it. And and at the 448 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: end of the luncheon, I immediately went and had two 449 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: emergency root canals that afternoon on the day I got 450 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: the Browns shop. So I hope your dental health is 451 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: good and I feel good right now. Yeah, I hope 452 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: this is a great day for you, because it's I 453 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great experience for all of us. 454 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: And Jim for the record, you can interrupt with all 455 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: the stories you want, as much as you want, for 456 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: as long as you want. You want an hour and 457 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: a half, we can do them all. I'll take them all, buddy. Uh. 458 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: So this is it. This is a it's a big 459 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: day for the organization, a big day for the three 460 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: of you. Uh, This is your official game day radio 461 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: team for your Cleveland Browns for two and beyond, the 462 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: great Jim Donovan. Of course Nathan's girl Gerage Cherry. We're 463 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: often running here. Cleveland Browns Daily, Yes, in Cleveland, Cleveland 464 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: Browns Daily on ESPN, Cleveland Video. Oh Yeah, Ohio Business 465 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: Machine perverked copy or provider if you're Cleveland Browns. While 466 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: the X and oes for your office called two six thousand, 467 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: visit Ohio Business Machines dot com. From an entire room 468 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: of luminaries and a luminary presents themselves now, our good 469 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: buddy Glenn Cook, VP of Player Personnel joining us. This 470 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: is a This is a big, big, big luminary. I 471 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: covered him in the state championship game Florida High School, FLA. 472 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: You guys go way back. He was good. Yeah, I 473 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: know he could play a little bit. I know he 474 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: could play real football at a very high level. Did 475 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: it in high school, didn't in college. And then I 476 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: was in back when I was still a semi young man, 477 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: which I wasn't. Actually was probably the oldest guy in 478 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: the league. He was in the Flag Football League. And 479 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: I haven't retired yet. Glenn was I'm retired Glenn was 480 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: very amidable. I had to say that before they went out. 481 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Mine was I felt like my after one of my throws, 482 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: my arms just gonna fly detach itself, like from my body. 483 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: That was it. The body speaks. The Achilles thing is 484 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: a terrible I wanted parts. Yeah, yeah, not rehabing, not 485 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: doing that. Man, did everybody when you stepped in it? 486 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: Was everyone aware in the flag football of of your 487 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: previous abilities? Yes, well I know you were, But did 488 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: everybody in the organization who played in the league. Were 489 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: they aware of what Mr Cook was all about? If 490 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: they weren't, and they had eyes, it was readily apparent. 491 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: It was fun. It was just fun, you know. I 492 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: didn't take it too serious. We had some legit people 493 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: out there. We did compete. It was very competitive. Who 494 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: else who could cover our general manager? He was basically 495 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: ed read on defense? And then Michael he was the 496 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: most He's the most dominant flag football player I've ever 497 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: seen him. People so, but he was quarterback. He was 498 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: a four or four guy coming out, so, I mean, 499 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: and he can lefty and he can sling it. And 500 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: then on defense he covered all fields. We played them 501 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: one game and our team scored like the most points 502 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: in the league. The last year I played our second 503 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: last year, the last time a B played, there was 504 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: a game where he couldn't make because he was in 505 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: meetings for the first half. And I remember we scored 506 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: right before the half to go up like we'll call 507 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: it six. Feeling pretty good. Not No, he could cover 508 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: an entire field. Now. He was definitely the most athletic 509 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Domini dude out there. That's amazing, Like you can still 510 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: run four or five when I see a bouncing around Juliani. 511 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: Also under the radar, Bonkers Dave who does a lot 512 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: of ore. He's the guy who keeps everybody, you know, 513 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: should we go for it here? Should do this? A 514 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: lot of situation updates in the head. He's fast the ball, 515 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 1: he's gone, Yeah, we played a Stanford baseball so wow. Yeah. 516 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: What is um? What is the next hours like for you? Quiet? 517 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Right now? Uh? So that you know we're having our 518 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: final discussions and for us it will be a little 519 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: bit differently because it's a little more waiting to see right. So, um, 520 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: we have a luxury of waiting a whole day or 521 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: at least twelve hours to kind of see how the 522 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: first round played. Out and analyze who's available, who could 523 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: potentially be available? Do when I move up? Do when 524 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: I move back? Do you want to sit? And uh, 525 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: kind of just take it from there. So it's it's 526 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: not the worst place to be sometimes, you know, we 527 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: can kind of sleep on it and think about who 528 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: could potentially be on the team. You guys have not 529 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: picked at your assigned spot in the second round the 530 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: last two years since abies come back as as a 531 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: general manager, you've moved back, got grant help at oh 532 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: and by the way, Nick Harris for free for moving back, 533 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: and then last time you move up and go get 534 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: or my USU Cormo. I would also point out that 535 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: you guys have gotten people that were pretty much consensus 536 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: first round picks in the second round, and so you 537 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: were getting first round talents in the second round. You'd 538 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: like to be able to do that again this year, right, 539 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: How does this draft kind of stack up from the 540 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: ability to do something like that. You don't, We don't 541 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: know how it plays out. You know, the market is 542 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: a market sometimes, so I don't think anyone saw us 543 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: moving up what was it nine picks? Wasn't any of 544 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: your simulations you guys read a billion. Yeah, So like 545 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: I think we you know, we we try to prepare 546 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: ourselves well enough to be agile for any situation. So 547 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: that could be moving back a couple of spots, a 548 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: lot of spots, moving up, multiple spots. Um. You know, 549 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: obviously we have a foundational strategy, but truly about acquiring talent. 550 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: So we're gonna put ourselves in the best position to 551 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: do that first and foremost. So we'll see. Like it's 552 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: an interesting place to be again not having a first 553 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: round pick this year, but I think what we feel 554 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: good about how we approach it. Yeah, we were saying, 555 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: like you could just say your first round pick as 556 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson for the next ser that then you feel 557 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: pretty good about that. In terms of uh, you know, 558 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: we've never been in a room. We've seen the movie 559 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: Draft Day, but what is it like in there? What 560 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: what can you compare it to to other experiences of 561 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: the way. That funny. I think every room is different, right, 562 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: Like some you have tons of people, um, your entire 563 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: scouting group, uh, your medical staff. Maybe in there's some 564 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: coaching staff obviously the ownership groups. Some there's just head 565 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: coach gm ownership, right, So every room is different I 566 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: think we take a little bit more of a smaller 567 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: group approach, And honestly, we've had so many discussions and 568 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: worked through so much beforehand, there's not much to be 569 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: talked about. It's really, oh, this is this is how 570 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: this played out, this is what we would do in 571 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: this situation. So I think, uh, it's probably not as 572 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: exciting as his draft day of the movie, and in 573 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: that regard, there's not a lot of arguing or yelling. 574 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: But um, you know, it's it's different. Have you been 575 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: in ones that do have that? Have I have a 576 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: couple of stories. I don't know a fact, no, no, no, sure, 577 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: but just how different it is now than others you've experienced. 578 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's there's always situations where it 579 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: gets intense, you know, because you feel passionate about a 580 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: player and you want to speak up. Um, you have 581 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: time constraints because you're you know, on the clock. So yeah, 582 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: when you want to make your final push and statement 583 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: on a guy, it could be a little a little contentionous, 584 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: but that's that's the healthy nature of it, if you 585 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: don't want to get too crazy about it. But yeah, 586 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen a few things, so one of 587 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: the things I talked to A B Monday and for 588 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: our draft preview show, and I asked him, you know 589 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: about trades and how does that go? And one thing 590 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: he said that I found very interesting was that basically, 591 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: every time you make a pick in the first three 592 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: runs and maybe even into the fourth, either you're making 593 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: a call or you're getting a call at that pick. 594 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: What's that situation like? And and are these are things 595 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: that you are always prepared for? I would imagine you 596 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: guys are I'm sure one of the one of the peas, right, 597 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: you guys are prepared. You got a plan, you gotta 598 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: process to implement that plan. But is that kind of 599 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: fun when the phone rings, You're like, oh, what are 600 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: they going to say? Because you never know, right, it 601 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: could always be could be something you never know what's 602 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: coming out of the mouth of the person on the 603 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: other end, right, Like, it could be, hey, are you 604 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: guys interested in moving back? You know this guy we're targeting, 605 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: we really want your spot. And your response is okay, 606 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: what are you offering? Or it could be, um, you know, hey, 607 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: you know in a couple of picks, you know, if 608 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: this guy is available, would you be interested? And then 609 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: on the other then we're calling and saying, hey, we're 610 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: trying to get out of the spot. What are you 611 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: willing to do? So yeah, especially early on, there's a 612 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: lot of activity. Um people like to to move around 613 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: and yo yo a little bit, so that that part 614 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: is pretty fun. We kind of split up a call 615 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: so it's not too crazy and you're not You have 616 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: like a group of people like me, Ken and SAgs 617 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: on the phone this year making sure we keep that 618 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: part on. Do you guys do some like good Cop 619 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: Bad Cop? Ever? No got you know, everybody has their 620 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: shees seasons. I'll tell him you said that, But everyone 621 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: has there, you know, their sheets and kind of how 622 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: they value each pick and so you you typically find 623 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: a middle ground somewhere and then work out and do it. 624 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: If you really want to work or deal out, you 625 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: get it done. You know, typically on the clock it's alright, fine, 626 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: let's let's do it. You know. So it's so like 627 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: go back a couple of years ago with Grant And 628 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: obviously to make a move there have to be you 629 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: have to be okay with the person that if you 630 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: stayed there and pick the potential that it's gone. I 631 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: know you guys do your research and kind of your investigating. 632 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: So you felt good that he would still be there. 633 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: But when you make a move like that, are those 634 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: picks the next few picks nervous? Oh? I mean you 635 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: don't know, right. Everyone can say, oh, we feel good 636 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: and the eyes or X, Y and Z, and the 637 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: probability of one of those players being there is X, 638 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: but you don't know. So you know, it's you're taking 639 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: a gamble, and that's what that's part of our business 640 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: is taking risks, not only in picking players but also 641 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: where we position ourselves to pick them. So, yeah, it's 642 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: it's no fun to have that lump in your stomach. 643 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says. If you don't have that. 644 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: You know this thing is an important too. It's no 645 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: different than being a player. So yeah, you kind of 646 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: hold your pants a little bit, you know, wait for 647 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: you've gotta be there. But that's that's the fun part 648 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: of it. You're one of the most emotionally level guys, 649 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: I know, but I am sure or maybe there's not. 650 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: You have you ever found yourself getting emotionally attached to 651 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: a prospect and seeing it slip out? And definitely the 652 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: way our process is built up. Um, you can't help 653 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: but do that sometimes, right, Like you you get the 654 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: first i'll say taste of who the person is, say 655 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: in August, when you visit the school for the first 656 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: time and they actually talk about them, and then you 657 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: go to a couple more practices and a couple more games, 658 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: and then you meet him at an All Star game. Um, 659 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: and then you have an opportunity, if they're fortunate enough 660 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 1: to meet them at the Senior Bowl. And so just 661 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: you build relationships and you root for guys, and you guys, 662 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: you hear different stories of the challenges and adversity that 663 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: some of these young men face. So yeah, you definitely 664 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: you have to guard against that cloud in your judgment 665 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: sometimes because you know, as human as we root for 666 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: all of us to be successful, and there's some you 667 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: really root for it just because you understand where they 668 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: came from. So, um, yeah, I definitely have favorites in 669 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: every draft, irregardless of like what level of talent I 670 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: think they are, how well I think they'll do in 671 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. There's always guys you favor. Is there a 672 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: guy in the past that you were like, I love 673 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: that dude, and it didn't work out, and it's worked 674 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: out for him elsewhere, just the timing didn't work. Is 675 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: there somebody that jumps from being on the team I 676 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: was a part of Yeah, yeah, or even not even 677 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: a guy that we messed out on, whether it was 678 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: a team that you were in the front office or not. 679 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: But you loved him in the process and you knew 680 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: that he would be something and he ended up being. 681 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: What's a hit that you didn't end up being able 682 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: to capitalize on? Is there anyone that jumps to my 683 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: good question? Thank you? This is what I h I 684 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: say my first year, Um, Bobby Wagner. Yeah, yeah, he was. 685 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 1: And I honestly, this isn't like you know, you can 686 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: have a little hindsight bias here. But it wasn't because 687 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: I thought it would be a great player, because I 688 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: didn't you know, I was green. I didn't know I 689 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 1: played linebacker in college, but it was my first year 690 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: in the league. But there's just something about him. So 691 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: I had to when I was in Indianapolis, I had 692 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: to read all the reports background, the player evaluation component 693 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: of it, sometimes edit them if they were necessary. So 694 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: the first time I read his report, I mean, this 695 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: dude was like a special guy. Forget the player part 696 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: of it, right, but just a special guy. And he 697 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: he was like my favorite guy. He was my favorite guy, 698 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: and then unfortunately he went on to be pretty good, 699 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's that's probably unfair answer. 700 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: But like the person, I think he's going on to 701 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: do great things like Adventure Capital, um, a lot of 702 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: stuff in the community in Seattle and probably where he 703 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: is in l A now. But yeah, that was that 704 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: was one that's good when you and it's a gold jacket, 705 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: so that pretty good. It's probably on his resume he's 706 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:08,239 Speaker 1: think about it might be okay, it might be all right, 707 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: it might be already's done a good job outside with 708 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: a b as well. And then Paul Dividestad told us 709 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: about this last year. But the exercise where you try 710 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: to put together a draft board, and the draft board 711 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: can only have people that everybody or multiple people have 712 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: said yeah, that's my dude. I banged the table for 713 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: that guy and couldn't be made up of anybody where 714 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: somebody was like I don't want that guy. That's the 715 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: guy that I'm against. And then you ended up with 716 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: like twelve people who were obviously going very early in 717 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: the first round, but just to kind of show how 718 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: difficult it is and how so many people who are 719 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: excellent what they do can see things differently. Was that 720 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: kind of an eye opening thing for you? And had 721 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: you ever done anything like that anywhere else? No, it was, 722 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: it was definitely eye opening. But also I think that's 723 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 1: a misnomer sometimes because consensus is tough, Like it's just 724 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: it's just hard to get a census on any decision. 725 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: But what you want to do is have everyone understand 726 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: and why you view it the way you view it, right, um, 727 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: and then kind of dig into those pain points of differences. So, hey, 728 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he is great at this position. I 729 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: don't think he does as well. Separating and gets this 730 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: type of coverage and go study it and challenge yourself 731 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: to to say, hey, am I seeing this correctly? Or 732 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: should I change my opinion? And I think that's the 733 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: great thing about what we do, Like we're always challenging 734 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: each other in some of those smaller areas to to 735 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: question our beliefs, question what we think and try to 736 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: get to the right answer versus just our answer. And 737 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: so there's a part of this that I think that 738 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: everybody he could go and you could watch tape, right, 739 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: if you can get the access to it, you can 740 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: watch tape, and that's a part of the evaluation. Then 741 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: there's all the meetings and the white boards and the 742 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: medicals which nobody will ever know. So when players see 743 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: those guys supposed to when a pertending ends of going 744 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: in the fifth round, it turns out there was some 745 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: medical issue that you typically causes a fall like that. 746 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: Big question I have is how do you And I'm 747 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: sure that there's a huge component. I know there are 748 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: people involved in the organization whose job is just to 749 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: try to assess this, but dealing with one year olds 750 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: are young, They are young people, and all this guy 751 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: is immature and all this East twenty one. Yeah, I'm 752 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: sure he is a little immature. How do you kind 753 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: of factor in that human piece of it? You said 754 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner was a special guy, so you wouldn't have 755 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: had any of those concerns, And I guess it's probably 756 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: a risk mitigation thing, But how do you kind of 757 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: deal with that that these are young guys who probably 758 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: are coming from a situation where they were like the 759 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: dude on campus where everybody was like, you're the greatest 760 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: thing ever probably what's true in high school and that's 761 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: basically their form of life and now they're about to 762 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: be millionaires. That's I think a hard part to get 763 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: your head around. So I'll say one, it's tough. Whoever 764 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: has the answer to that, it's probably really really rich, 765 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: heavy downpack in every instance. So it's just tough. Right, 766 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: You're dealing with humans were fallible. We're all unique, all 767 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: eight billion of us um. So that's that's the one part. Honestly, 768 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: it is is complicated, but too I mean, honestly, you 769 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: try to build a good process and so um we 770 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: try to have metrics and different things in place that 771 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: we're looking for to help us assess, you know, whether 772 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: it's high, medium, low, or pretty good, pretty bad risk 773 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: in terms of who they might be at the end 774 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: of the day, you don't know, you know, like they 775 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: can not have any incidents in college and come into 776 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: the league and make a poor decision, or they could 777 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: have really struggled because they were immature, didn't have the 778 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,959 Speaker 1: right set up in college and coming into the league 779 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: and turn into a pretty good young man and until 780 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: so you just try to make the best decisions with 781 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: the information you have, But it's the bigger point is 782 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: it's really tough to do that. It's really tough. Yeah, 783 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: it is. And I think one we talked about all 784 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: the time with with Coach during the you know, when 785 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: we do Coachdevanski show is how collaborative he is in 786 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: the process of coaching, and that same thing here in 787 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: this organization applies to the front office in terms of 788 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: the collaboration that that comes in the organization. And it 789 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: feels like from our advantage. But my evenchument won't speak 790 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: for you, but I'm sure that you and I share 791 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: this and that for for you guys, when it comes 792 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 1: to the next few days, it's kind of like you've 793 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: done the homework. This is the fun part, you know, 794 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: it's not. It doesn't feel like it's an emotional thing 795 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: like it is, because it's there's an emotion to adding 796 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: people to your family, so to speak. But in terms 797 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: of the decisions that are made, it's pretty level here. 798 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean, when you have good people who are smart, 799 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: all working in the same direction, it's gonna be good. Yeah, 800 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: I think that's I think at the end of that's 801 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: what our group is. You know, we all care about 802 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: the same things. We're all trying to accomplish the same goal, 803 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: and that's just when you know. So we're trying to 804 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: provide our coach and half with the best players. Our 805 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: coaches are going to coach them with the best, and 806 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: then our support staff we're gonna give them the best 807 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: resources we can. That's we've tried to keep it that 808 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: simple and not make it too complicated, and so far, 809 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: I feel like we have done that as a group, 810 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll continue to do it. But yeah, this 811 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: it should be fun, you know, Like like you said, 812 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: I at least I can speak for myself. This stuff 813 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: you dream about doing, you know, being in the draft 814 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: room and and and picking players and seeing them walk 815 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: across the stage. So this is the fun part for us, 816 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: definitely the fun part for the players. So it should 817 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: be an exciting next few days. I think it's gonna 818 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: be an exciting like weak plus. And what I mean 819 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: by that is you have the draft and then I know, 820 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: I know a lot of the people in this building, 821 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: you guys get fired up for the undrafted free agent 822 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: process because that's kind of that's like recruiting. It's like 823 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: trying to get somebody. Yeah, come on over, here, and 824 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: there's kind of a back and forth in that you 825 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: have that and then I feel and we've talked about 826 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: this a lot, and I won't speak for you, but 827 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: I believe we've we've talked about so I know you 828 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: feel the same way. But it seems to me there 829 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: is an overabundance of very talented veterans that have not 830 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: signed compared to other years, and so I feel a 831 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: lot of them are probably waiting for the draft. How 832 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: that shakes out, how teams that need to go approach it. 833 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: So it feels to me like we're gonna have this 834 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: bizarre kind of third wave of real free agency along 835 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: with college free agency coming out of the draft. Is 836 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: that Do you agree with that? Or? I mean, it's 837 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: so like you know, obviously, it's been probably quiet the 838 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: last week. Teams are trying to prepare for the draft 839 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,720 Speaker 1: and make sure they have they have their strategy downpack. 840 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: But to your point, there are a lot of quality 841 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: football players still on on the street, so to speak. 842 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, once teams get through the draft, and and 843 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: maybe they did an acquire a player to position they 844 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: want it, I think you'll start to see more moves 845 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: um and and see more guys signed contracts. It is. 846 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: It's been very unique the last couple of years, not 847 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: only this year in terms of just you look up 848 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: and it's June, and oh man, that dude is still available. 849 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: He still cont sign with the team. So don't be surprised. No, 850 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: certainly not. And I think one thing that you should 851 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: have looked at the camera when he said that that 852 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: was a good that was like that was a camera. 853 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. And I know you you you and 854 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: I've talked about this like you I've loved as a 855 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: as a little kid, the draft, like that Saturday, sign 856 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: me up, like I I'm taking notes, who got better? 857 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: Grading each Mini milk Keiper doing all this stuff? Did 858 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 1: you see a BIS contract? We told him he doesn't 859 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: love it. I don't think. I don't think he loves that. 860 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: It's it's out in the mix. He should. It's a 861 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: credit he actually got. When he was ten, he wanted to, 862 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: he want to eat played an NFL general manager, and 863 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: he became one. I would have I would have grown 864 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: up as a g I Joe if that was okay. 865 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: So that's the difference, you know, in those two things. 866 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: Um No, I did see that, and and I never 867 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: take and now that you know in the organization and 868 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: seeing it in person here, you never take for granted 869 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: the dream that you're making and the voyage that that 870 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: kid has gone through the work. You've done it. You 871 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: did the work you live that life and the amount 872 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: of practice and work. And it's one thing you dream 873 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 1: of playing college football. You dare to dream to play 874 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: in the league. But then all of a sudden, what 875 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: and and honestly, when that when your name is called, 876 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: my guess is all what if there's disappointment that you slipped, 877 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: it all goes away because you just want to hear 878 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: that name. So I tell guys. I tell guys on 879 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: on their visits. So when I see him throughout the spring, listen, 880 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: I know it's an interview of some sorts, right, Like 881 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: you're still trying to potentially sell yourself in terms of 882 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: your ability on the field or who you are as 883 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: a human being. But make sure you take a moment 884 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: and be grateful and celebrate getting to this point. You know, 885 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: like you've been playing. Some guys have been playing since five. 886 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: I started playing when I was nine. Two people start 887 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: in high school. But think about that journey and not 888 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: just your four years in college, Like a lot of 889 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: people want to be in your position. Even if you 890 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: get drafted in the seventh round, you have a lot 891 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: of people want to be in your position and say, hey, 892 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: I got drafted and just don't take that for granted. 893 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: So I agree with you, I hope, and I think 894 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: most of the guys celebrated. You see the tears and 895 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: the passion flow because it is a relief like you, 896 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: you kind of like ball up and get anxious and 897 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: then when you can finally release, it as pretty cool. 898 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: So you know, hopefully we can make more than a 899 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: couple of guys dreams come true this weekend. It'll be fun. Yeah, 900 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: speaking of dreams come true, I don't know if you 901 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: were gm NG when you were ten, but it feels 902 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: like this is becoming a factory here. And you got 903 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: to go on some interviews that had to be pretty 904 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: darn cool for you to get that experience, and what 905 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: was kind of out like, and you know when you 906 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: dream about being the guy because when people told me 907 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: about that exercise, he goes at the end, he said, 908 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: the only person in this room, it's gonna for sure 909 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: pick somebody that's not on there. Do not pick list 910 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: is Andrew, Barry b and finish and someday, you know, 911 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: hopefully that's gonna be true of you. I'll say one thing, 912 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: don't rush to the seat. I'm not rushing to it. 913 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: I think between watching uh Andrew and some other people 914 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: live that life, I think you grow in appreciation for 915 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: tough the job is, and I've definitely done that. And 916 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: then going through the interview process it was challenging. I 917 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: think both organizations really put us all through the wringer 918 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: and really wanted to see who we are as people. 919 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: I think I showed myself well and there's things I 920 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: learned about me that I'm gonna try to work on. 921 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: But really my focus is, hey, let's get us, you know, 922 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: to compete for championships and all that other stuff. Yeah, 923 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: but still we were happy to see it for appreciate 924 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,959 Speaker 1: and well deserved. Always good talking to you buddy, saying 925 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: you have h This was really enjoyable. I know I 926 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. A great deal with my friend. Next time 927 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: he's here, when he hits the money lines, he's gonna 928 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: you watch. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know which it's true 929 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: that you have? Was he on his solos on his 930 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: ice so Gibbe, I did have I did have an ice, 931 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,439 Speaker 1: so maybe he did, maybe gave it a little played 932 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: a second. Gibby's directing the cameras to now he does 933 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: it all. It's kid. I don't think anybody needs a 934 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: shot at Jamison more than me. Right now, I'm not 935 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna Would we give give you more responsibility? What are 936 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: we doing? 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We 963 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: announced the new look Game Day radio team and Z 964 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: heading into the Doug Deacon radio booth and joining joining 965 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: Jim in that role in then Gerade coming in on 966 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: the sidelines, um and we had it was great in 967 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: off the top of the show talking about all this 968 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: with all of you, but for you personally, Pal, I 969 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 1: know one of the things about you that I find 970 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: so incredible is your preparedness. So I know what you 971 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 1: did just from a sideline perspective, the amount of work 972 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: that you're going to put in on this thing is 973 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: going to be remarkable, um and and the preparedness that 974 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: you will have for this will be nothing short of elite. 975 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: Big responsibility with this, I know you don't take it lately. 976 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: I do not at all. And like I said, it's 977 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: such a great honor and it's such a it's such 978 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: a privilege to be in the booth and to be 979 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: in the Dug Deacon Radio booth alongside Jim Donovan and 980 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: to just be a part of that. And I know 981 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: that I play a very small role and quite frankly 982 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: in radio broadcasting for the National Football League gets A. 983 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: It's the play by play guys show, and guess what, 984 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: we happen to have the best in the NFL. And 985 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: so my job is going to be to try to 986 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: add insights where I can and and have some fun 987 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: and share the things that I've learned, you know, from 988 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: the coaches and from the players and from you know, 989 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: watching the tape and getting into our opponents and their 990 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: tendencies and what they like to do, and trying to 991 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: share that with our audience so that when we watch it, 992 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna all be in awe of Jim's 993 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: calls and having fun and hopefully enjoying what we see 994 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 1: on the field. And I'll try to kind of explain 995 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of the y and a little bit 996 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 1: of the stories behind that. And I think it's gonna 997 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. I mean, I am so 998 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: excited and and so just like I said, I can't 999 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: wait for it. I appreciate all the kind words that 1000 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 1: you said, and so many people have already reached out 1001 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: to me on text and on Twitter, and I appreciate 1002 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: everything that you know, everybody who supported me and helped 1003 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: me get here, because this is something that for a 1004 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: while probably was not possible, Like it didn't seem like 1005 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: this was something that was actually possible to get to 1006 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: do it. And so I am I couldn't be more 1007 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: ecstatic to be able to to do this and make 1008 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 1: this dream come true. And I think it's gonna be 1009 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: so fun. I think this team is gonna be good. 1010 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's crazy, but yeah, I will 1011 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, you will have to worry about that. I 1012 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: will know everything that I can possibly know about the 1013 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: match up our team, their team, everything possible to try 1014 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: to enhance the broadcast experience and just add, as they say, 1015 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: a little color to the side of it. And like 1016 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: I said, Jim is Jim is the prime rib. I'm 1017 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: a little koutman on the side. Maybe I'm just give 1018 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: you a little dash owes you here and there and 1019 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: and well we'll be off to the races. You're not 1020 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: leaving me with him? Are you alone? Right? I don't know. 1021 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: Apparently according to social media, you know, you don't want 1022 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: that guy's got an anger issue. People reacted to what 1023 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: you want to say. You're saying that gives gives, produces 1024 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: an episode of the bp A. We do that when 1025 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: people have enjoyed that one, which is no surprise, uh 1026 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: and gives this like smiling throughout the entire thing. And 1027 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: people were giving you a tough time on on the 1028 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: social gimme which is hurting your biggest I've never even 1029 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: seen you mad, great usage of BRONI never even seen you, man. 1030 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I have seen you mad. Have I 1031 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: seen you mad? At me? I've seen gim me mad 1032 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: once or twice. What did I do? What I do? 1033 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: What I do? What I do. Let's not we'll relive 1034 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: it off the air. You can remind me of something. Yeah, 1035 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: you've seen me angry. I've seen you angry for sure. 1036 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: Well i've seen him in full cage rattling mode. You 1037 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: hadn't got a front row seat once to me really angry? 1038 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: Oh indeed I did. A lot of people were angry 1039 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: that day, my friend. I was not the only one. 1040 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: I know you were. Have you seen the uh? I was? 1041 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: I was shocked in the break to realize, to come 1042 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 1: to the realization that Zagura had not seen the eighties 1043 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,959 Speaker 1: classic just one of the guys I have not seen. 1044 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: You have not seen it either. I've never feels like 1045 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: a stunning hord of both of your resumes, considering where 1046 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: men were forty like this was consistently on rotation on HBO. 1047 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: Heard of it when I watched all that stuff. Can't 1048 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: buy me love, right, I mean it's in that realm 1049 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,919 Speaker 1: like Johnny Lawrence old man, like I mean I saw 1050 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: all those movies. It's transformed big a lot of I've 1051 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: never heard of this type of a transformation. Is this 1052 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: is this your purporting? And then the poster made it 1053 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: looked like it was a football movie. I was like, 1054 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: I know, Wildcats, I got necessary rob this for you, 1055 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: not Football MOVI, No shocked. I've never heard who's in it. 1056 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: Johnny Lawrence is in it. He's the big bad My question, 1057 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: she defends in it. My question. Not sure who the 1058 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: lead is. I don't know that she was in a 1059 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: lot of other things. No, I've already seen her. I 1060 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: recognized the the sidekick guy was in a bunch of 1061 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: eighties stuff. But like, okay, first of all, I mean 1062 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: he's he's in a ton of stuff. He's in a 1063 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: ton of stuff. But I can't say if I was 1064 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: watching this movie, I kind of just one of the 1065 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: guys you, I can't. I mean, the morrow Borough man 1066 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: probably has no time for just one of the guys. 1067 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: Like what would he say when you were watching? Just 1068 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. The really had one TV in my house, 1069 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: so if I was watching, I was in the living room, 1070 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 1: And if I was in the living room, my dad 1071 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: was in his chair because he had his chair. This 1072 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: is where he was out of the mix. He was 1073 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 1: outside a lot. I mean, there was there were a 1074 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: lot of times where you could pull something like this 1075 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: off and get around it. Uh let me, let me, 1076 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm pretty well versed on eighties. I know, 1077 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,240 Speaker 1: that's why I'm shocked. Yeah, a Joyce Heiser is your lead, 1078 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: and yeah, there's not a whole lot of the in 1079 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 1: the resume. I mean it's an hour and forty minutes. 1080 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:25,879 Speaker 1: It's great she's in This is spinal tap I have. Yeah, Yeah, 1081 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: I had had a decent run, really talk about on 1082 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: the air. Yeah, and then it's a lot of you know, 1083 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 1: from that point on, it's a lot of I had 1084 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: a run on The Bolt and the Beautiful as a stewardist, 1085 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: and here she headlined this. She was in l A 1086 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 1: Law had a real run in the mid eighties and 1087 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 1: it all went to hell. I'm gonna tell you what. 1088 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: It's got everything you want. It's got everything you want, 1089 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: everything you want. I just feel like when I think 1090 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: of like Pantheon eighties movies, I don't know that it's Pantheon, 1091 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 1: but it's in that mix. It's are you gonna candles? 1092 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: You're gonna put on camp buy me love levels, it's 1093 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: in a it's in that realm. It's one of those. Yeah, 1094 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 1: it's in one of it's in that realm of movies. 1095 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: Like that's the it has of movies that would not 1096 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 1: be made today. Correct. It hits all the benchmarks that 1097 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: a mid eighties movie, you know, sophomoric eighties, certain eighties 1098 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: benchmarks you have to hit. It hit all of them. Um, 1099 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 1: so that's good. Do you guys, watch you gotta coming. 1100 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: We've never really accounted for the Glenn Cook Saunter before. 1101 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: It's really kind of just to be fair, to be fair, 1102 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,879 Speaker 1: he's the he's probably is the original Saunter and he's 1103 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: probably the only one who really carries it. There's a 1104 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: lot back in that sent up. Yeah, there's a lot. 1105 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot to that. There are others who Saunter 1106 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: around here. That's you know, it's false bravado, that's real bravado. 1107 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 1: That is he was a dude in high school. And 1108 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: this just came in from my buddy Burns. Just one 1109 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: of the guys is Austin watching zillion times as a kid. 1110 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,399 Speaker 1: Of course, did I know not of this movie? Yeah, 1111 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: Burns is right, Burns is a smart man. Yeah, Burns 1112 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: and os. Yeah, it's a. It's a. It is a. 1113 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: It's on the list of really important eighties movies that 1114 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 1: are in that genre. It's on that list. Okay, all right, 1115 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna addit. It's I don't know when I'm gonna 1116 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: have this viewing, but I'm gonna make sure that, like, 1117 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 1: is it stream It's got to be somewhere. This feels 1118 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: like it's on Netflix or all those other I don't know. 1119 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: Netflix is losing all of it. That's because people want 1120 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: the movies back. This doesn't feel like a movie that 1121 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,760 Speaker 1: somebody's demanding to have back in their exclusive you're aware 1122 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: of it. If those that are aware, all right, let's see, um, 1123 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: you can watch it on Pluto TV right off the 1124 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: bast Prime Video got it boom? Like we have to 1125 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: rent it on Prime Video? Or is this for free? 1126 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: It's see if it just comes with Prime because this 1127 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: feels like a five Now, you gotta rent it. You 1128 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 1: buy it for eight bucks and then you can run 1129 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: it back if the buy it now I don't know 1130 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: if you do this, but if the rent fee is 1131 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: single digits and the buy it now fee is also 1132 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: single duits, I'll buy it every time, just because every time, 1133 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: and typically I'll never watch. But in the event that 1134 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: I will, the fact that i'd have to rent it 1135 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 1: are gonna be limited to forty eight hours. That's my 1136 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: my philosophy on that is because most of the times 1137 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: when we buy, when he takes something off Prime, it's 1138 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: for the children, and so the odds are they're gonna 1139 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: want to run it back, like saying or any of these. 1140 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: So even if those are in the twenties, I do 1141 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: it because I know I'm gonna be renting that thing 1142 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: a hundred times between now and forever. So by the way, folks, 1143 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: no scores here or whatever. But it feels like we're 1144 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: while it is the day before the draft, is it 1145 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: not for us? Doesn't feel like it is for us. 1146 00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: Feels like it is December, which unless it's your birthday, 1147 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: you're the birthday of somebody that you really care about, 1148 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: is like a forgotten day, like nobody's Oh it's December, 1149 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,439 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, then Christmas for us, this typically would be 1150 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: the eve, not this year. I think in general it's 1151 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: a ho Hume draft. It just is. I mean, that's 1152 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: just the reality. And I think it will show in 1153 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 1: the ratings. I think this will be a down ratings 1154 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 1: draft when you have the beautiful thing of the NFL 1155 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: draft in most instances is and I think this is 1156 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: kind of a reflection on the way teams are now 1157 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: viewing first round picks versus how we used to. We 1158 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: used to view first round picks as you can't touch him, 1159 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: will not trade him. Hey, you can have all the 1160 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 1: ones you want. We'll take a dude who we've seen play, 1161 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: who we know who he is. That's right, that's right, 1162 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: that's right. So that's what's changed. But you know, of course, 1163 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: for most of our time around the league, loving the league, 1164 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 1: you do not trade ones. You do you protected them 1165 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: like they were your firstborn. And and that is that 1166 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: has changed. So that has led to you several teams 1167 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 1: controlling most of this first round. You add to that, 1168 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel like there's is a a I asked, 1169 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: this is Sam Mason this morning. Let me ask it 1170 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 1: to you, guys, is there any team in this draft 1171 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: that it changed that with this draft hitting it out 1172 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: of the park, it changes their standing and the way 1173 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: you view them, because I the two that come to 1174 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: mind are the two New York's But the problem for 1175 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: them is there in the a f C. So so 1176 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: the one that I think is could Giants the Giants 1177 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: picket what five and five and nine or something like 1178 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: there to two high picks. The Giants have a lot 1179 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: of weapons on offense. You know, you know there's that's 1180 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 1: out there. Who else the Eagles, But what they if 1181 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: they do something trying to speak this into existence. This 1182 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: is where you come out of nowhere other than just 1183 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: not connecting by us because we're educated gentlemen. Yeah, and 1184 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: I think you you say to yourself, like you you 1185 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,320 Speaker 1: know you Now they're in a position to swing for 1186 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: the fences to try. Yeah, well it happened. I don't know, 1187 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: but I guarantee will try. Yeah, they'll call, they'll call 1188 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: in the offer. I mean, like I said, I mean 1189 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: they can give up four ones in two drafts, this 1190 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: one and next one. That's pretty good. You know, as 1191 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: you're trying to if you were in the market of 1192 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: moving off of a you know, transformative player like would 1193 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: potentially be in the mix. So I don't know, I 1194 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: don't sense like we say, Jets, but to me, there's 1195 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: nothing they're gonna do with this draft that I'm gonna 1196 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, now they're a contender because they still 1197 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: have big questions at quarterback. So I just all right, 1198 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: if Zack Wilson, as they believe Zach Wilson is right. 1199 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: But if the Jets, let's say got a really good 1200 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: player with one of their picks and traded the other 1201 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: and got Deebo Samuel, You'd be like, Okay, now, does 1202 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: that immediately catapult them ahead of New England? No? Does 1203 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: it immediately catapult them out of Miami? No? So does 1204 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: it really change their standing? I guess not, But you 1205 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: could also the problem is you would add them to Okay, 1206 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,479 Speaker 1: here's now it's convinced they're going to the playoffs. Yeah. See, 1207 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: I if if I'm them, I don't think they're windows now, 1208 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: Like they're still a couple of years from their window. Like, 1209 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: if I were them, I wouldn't do the debot thing 1210 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 1: because I don't think they're there yet. I need more 1211 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 1: depth of talent. It depends on what they think. But 1212 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, let's just to play, you know, 1213 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 1: like a little a little Devil's advocate. They didn't get 1214 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: the benefits of of Carl Lawson last year, Right, it 1215 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: comes back. You've got a good defensive coach obviously in Salid, 1216 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,919 Speaker 1: you've got a good offensive mine in the floor. If 1217 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: you were trotting out your three receiver sets with Corey Davis, 1218 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: with Elijah Moore and Deebo Samuel, Like, that's pretty formidable. 1219 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: You feel like a quarterback is going to have some 1220 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: success there. Get somebody to run the ball or catch 1221 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: the ball. Fine, but just that trio is pretty darn good. 1222 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: So could they be interesting? Sure? The Dolphins. I feel like, 1223 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: how are the Dolphins not going to be interesting? All 1224 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: the question is to us? But are they setting themselves 1225 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: up to be the next ready made place that somebody 1226 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 1: says that, you know what, I'd like to go to? 1227 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: Miami probably feels that way. And two was going to 1228 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: try to shut everybody up that thinks that's what's happened, 1229 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: that he's just a placeholder until they get the dude. Yeah, 1230 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: it's just loaded, man, that's the thing. And here's the 1231 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: thing you mentioned this draft. We talked about it. Eight 1232 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: teams control half of the draft picks in the first round. Eight, Yeah, 1233 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: which means there are I think it's seven teams that 1234 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 1: don't have picks in the first round this year. That's 1235 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot, Yeah, it is. Yeah, so it's seven markets 1236 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: that aren't as affected. I think you couple that with 1237 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: the standpoint of you don't have the quarterback intrigue, like 1238 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: I know that in two thousand nineteen when we didn't 1239 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: have a one, the ratings were still really big for 1240 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 1: the draft here, and the ratings will be big for 1241 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 1: the draft here regardless. But the fact that there's no 1242 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks of consequence, I think being drafted the other kind 1243 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: of factor here. Who in nineteen and I can't recall 1244 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: of top of my head for some reason, but nineteen 1245 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: was Kyler? Who else went at quarterback in that draft? 1246 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Because I feel like there's a Dan Dimes draft, right, 1247 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Danny Dimes, right, Danny Dimess Haskins, That's what it was. 1248 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Those are the three first rounders. And there you know, 1249 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean Kyler was a known and and Haskins was 1250 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: a Heisman finalist at Ohio State in a first round pick, 1251 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: so you know that dress Okay, So here you go. 1252 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: This this kind of buttresses the point. So Murray goes 1253 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: one in nineteen. Number two is Nick Bosa. Okay, So 1254 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 1: dudes one to Quinn and Williams Cleveland, Farrell, Devin White, 1255 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 1: our guy, Devin White. I believe on the steed that 1256 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: would be the answer to myke Glenn Cook question. He 1257 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: would be on the shortlist of answers. Mine would have 1258 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 1: been Alan Robins where we were like and he was 1259 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: the second round pick, late second round pick. I think 1260 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: he was in this like sixty pick sixty or something like. Yep, 1261 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: Danny Dimes went six. Uh, Josh Allen the other one 1262 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Yeah, t J. Hockenson at Oliver still sits 1263 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: in there on his steed. Um, Devin Bush of course 1264 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh on Williams or Shawn Gary. Yeah, I mean 1265 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins and then Dimes is wet like Jeffrey Simmons 1266 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: went nineteen and then and so Jeffrey sim that's the guy, right, 1267 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: that's the Ojabo of this draft in terms of a 1268 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,439 Speaker 1: guy that was a study. It was a top five talent. 1269 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Now job was not a top five talent, and which 1270 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 1: is why I think he could fall into the second round. 1271 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Which in my mock draft, that's what that's the scenario 1272 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: that I have for the Browns. Um. But yeah, he's 1273 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 1: he's a pretty darn good he's a pretty darn good player. Um. 1274 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: But Simmons has turned out to be just an absolute monster. 1275 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Here the second round receivers in nineteen, Debo goes thirty six, 1276 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: A J. Brown goes one. DK Metcalf. Yeah, is Deante 1277 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Johnson and that too. Um, I don't see. He might 1278 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: be third. He's the top of the third. He went 1279 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: sixty six. So those four all go in the second 1280 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: and third round. In two thousand nineteen, Terry McLaurin went 1281 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: seventy six and fourth round, third round, third round. McLaurin 1282 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: went seventy six overall. Winovich one spot ahead of Chase 1283 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 1: one of Itch went, holy cow, that's crazy at receiver. 1284 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: Pretty see. I don't think that's gonna happen again, though, 1285 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: because I think people are getting smarter to the receivers. 1286 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 1: They're going look at that. That's five guys, all, dudes, 1287 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: how many went in the first round? That one? Since 1288 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: you have it in front of you right now, receivers 1289 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: uh Nick kill Harry went thirty two. Bust Mark's Brown 1290 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: to Baltimore Hollywood. Brown went, Um, that's it, just to 1291 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. That's how much the least change 1292 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: in two years. Go back to the twenty draft. He 1293 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: had a ton of them. One draft, he had a 1294 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:55,919 Speaker 1: ton of them. Twenty draft, he had rugs draft Justin Jefferson. Yeah, 1295 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty draft, Rugs, Ruggs was first. He was 1296 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: first receiver off the board. He went twelve, Judy went fifteen, 1297 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb went seventeen, Jalen Reagor went twenty one, Justin 1298 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 1: Jefferson went twenty two, Brandon Ayuk went twenty five. UM 1299 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: second round had Higgins and Pittman off the board right away. 1300 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 1: Lavisca Chennault went forty two, kJ Hamler went forty six, 1301 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool forty nine, ten Van Jefferson went seven, Denzel Mims. 1302 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 1: That's two thousand twenties. That tells you the difference of 1303 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: just one year how we viewed receiver. Yeah, and just 1304 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: and it feels like that's it's not going to change 1305 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: year after year. And I think the Browns are an 1306 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 1: interesting position. I know there are a lot of people 1307 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: that want the Browns to take a wide receiver at 1308 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,439 Speaker 1: forty four, and I get that. I understand that. One 1309 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if the guys that you want for 1310 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: the Browns, I don't know if any of them are 1311 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: going to be on the board at forty four. And 1312 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,959 Speaker 1: if there is one that might be on the board 1313 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 1: at forty four, it feels like kins from the stuff 1314 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: that's coming out about him, sure he's talented coming off 1315 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: an injury, but there feels like there's a lot of 1316 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: red flags. He might be the one and he might 1317 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: have be a guy who has a free fall, but 1318 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 1: at the same time, he's a guy that could be 1319 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 1: a top five talent in this class. I don't just 1320 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 1: don't know who's who matches up. I think what you 1321 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: say is if if you don't have if you don't 1322 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: have that receiver at forty four, it feels like receiver 1323 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: defensive in in um. But if you don't get that 1324 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: receiver forty four, then you gotta get because we need 1325 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 1: somebody opposite of a Mari No doubt DPJ, and I 1326 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 1: think DPJ can absolutely be an effective receiver in this league. 1327 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: I think we've seen and I think you will only 1328 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: get better with the Shaun Watson. But what we need 1329 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: is either a Anthony Schwartz who really step up on 1330 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 1: the outside, or we need to get somebody outside that 1331 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 1: can take the top off the defense to let Amari Cooper, 1332 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 1: like I envisioned a Marii Cooper, great route runner gets 1333 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: open all the time. Yes, he can be he's more 1334 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: of a vertical threat than theeling, but when you think 1335 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 1: about this offense and what it was in Minnesota. I 1336 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 1: see him are kind of in that theling role where 1337 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: he can vacuum the ball up, give you a twelve 1338 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred yards and ten touchdowns. But he's not the 1339 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: game wrecker, which is I think what we're still looking for. 1340 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: And then you're talking about a guy out of the 1341 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 1: slide who can be a catch and run guy or 1342 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: a guy that's just the guy who gets open and 1343 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: does everything right way like with Jarvis, if you brought 1344 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Jarvis back to play on the inside, but you know, 1345 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 1: you don't want Schwartz to step up, and here's a 1346 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 1: third round pick a year ago, like we we we 1347 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: need to see some production out Anthony Schwartz this year. 1348 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 1: But I do think you need to add somebody on 1349 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: the outside. They're still veterans. Will fuller to Sean Jackson, 1350 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: Sehn Jackson already has made it like a picture of 1351 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: him in a Brown's jersey and so who knows there, 1352 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 1: but he could still fly to He was very productive 1353 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 1: vertically for the Rams and for the Raiders last year. Yeah, 1354 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 1: a lot of options out there, um, but yeah, I 1355 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 1: think it's a little flat for for for several of 1356 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: those reasons. 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Did you guys watch 1366 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: John last night? Did you see any of it? Or 1367 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: you just see it this morning? I saw I needed 1368 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 1: to see you when I saw him post riot posters 1369 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. I think I kind 1370 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 1: of knew what he was getting out of the way, 1371 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 1: but I mean he took off. He was almost like 1372 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 1: a Jordan dunk that was also in a game in 1373 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 1: somebody's face. Well, so I was watching it live. It 1374 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,040 Speaker 1: was the end of the third quarter. End of the 1375 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 1: third quarter. That's an awesome series, awesome and the young 1376 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: talent in it is stunning. So you got I have 1377 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: a little personal time covered D'Angelo Russell love covering him 1378 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. Great kid, delightful kid. And then Scooney 1379 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: penn is on the Memphis staff, so a great friend 1380 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: of mine and he's on the Memphis staff, so you 1381 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: follow him. And I remember when they drafted jaw and 1382 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,439 Speaker 1: early on I was talking to Scooty and I said, 1383 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 1: is he is it all right for me to get 1384 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: the boys his jersey? Like? Is he a good human? 1385 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: He's like great, great human, Like he's all of the 1386 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: he checks every box. So what I was thinking about. 1387 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: They'll watch it because at the end of the game, 1388 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: Edwards was the number one pick a couple of years ago. 1389 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: Hits the three to tie it with three seconds to go, 1390 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: and then John finishes a layup, walk off, layup um 1391 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: and Edwards went for the steel at the end. I 1392 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: read some quote where he said I decided he was 1393 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,439 Speaker 1: gonna go for the steel instead of and he said 1394 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 1: turned and then and and got there. I mean, he 1395 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 1: got the guy in front of you. It's between if 1396 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: you can't defend him. To the point I watched it live. 1397 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: My wife's got a little bit of a sinus thing 1398 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 1: going on. You woke her up. She threatened to divorce me. 1399 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 1: I went downstairs with screaming at the TV UM. I 1400 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: if you can't get there, just pull back because you've 1401 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: gotta keep it. He has to be in front of 1402 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 1: you have to be between him and the hoop. And 1403 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I did not understand that. I mean just 1404 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 1: it's just it just it's a miss It's a big 1405 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 1: it's a big miss um. It also speaks to I 1406 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 1: think John's success this year speaks to what's happened in 1407 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 1: that league, where so many guys shoot threes, that the 1408 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 1: game has become so spread out that if you are 1409 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 1: a slasher, a penetrator, you can feast because there's nobody there. 1410 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 1: You're oftentimes you break a guy down. You're on encumber 1411 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 1: to the rim. There's not rim protectors anymore. Bigs are 1412 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: out shooting threes, so there's nobody to fear at the rim. 1413 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: So you're seeing it like if you're willing to attack, 1414 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: you can get to the cup. I mean just relentlessly 1415 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: attacked it, like gravity does not apply to him. Apparently, 1416 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 1: he springs off of the ground with the bout trampoline. 1417 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 1: It's outrageous. Sounds is pretty real. They had what was 1418 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 1: it a six or seven point lead the the t 1419 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 1: Wolves Dad with like four minutes to go. Yeah, and 1420 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: he but you knew he was the only one getting 1421 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, Arl Anthony Towns, no premature, none of that. 1422 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 1: Then they go they went down seven run after he 1423 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 1: did that. Well he yeah, he's not He's kind of punchable. 1424 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,720 Speaker 1: He's a lot of this stuff he does is a 1425 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 1: little bit. It's an incredibly contentious series, though, and it's 1426 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 1: been really good. It's three to now going back to 1427 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota three too, which got me thinking though about Jaw 1428 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,720 Speaker 1: because it did feel like in watching it that it 1429 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 1: was almost like a Hello World moment for him. And 1430 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 1: I know NBA people are aware of job, but I 1431 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,280 Speaker 1: almost felt like, oh, now he's going to be this 1432 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: type of guy. And we've had several of those. I 1433 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 1: remember Damian Lillard hit that game winner a few years 1434 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 1: ago in the playoffs where he went and stared at 1435 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: the Cameron was like, you know that one, that's the gift, 1436 01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 1: like that one. But he never it never went to fruition, right, 1437 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: because you know you don't win the next round. He's done, 1438 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: he's out of the playoffs. I thought of you know 1439 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:10,879 Speaker 1: what are what are great moments where something transcendent happens 1440 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 1: and it it isn't remembered because the team results. For example, 1441 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 1: if it doesn't doesn't happen, if Memphis doesn't win this series, 1442 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 1: this will all be forgotten. It's all gone. So they 1443 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 1: have to win the series. And the first thing I 1444 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 1: thought of was like Josh Allen last year against Kansas City, 1445 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:32,919 Speaker 1: he had two game winning drives. He played perfect quarterback 1446 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,880 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it will be remembered because 1447 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,560 Speaker 1: they did not only did not even go to the 1448 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: super they even go to the f C Championship game 1449 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,840 Speaker 1: because Mahomes one upped him both times. But he was 1450 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 1: superb in that game. Superban that he was superb in 1451 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I get his playoffs stats because I've been 1452 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 1: thrown out a stat that I believe is correct. We'll 1453 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,519 Speaker 1: find out if it is. But uh, I think through 1454 01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: nine touchdowns and he threw nine incomplete as in the 1455 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: two playoff games, I believe is correct, and they did not. 1456 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 1: To your point, they did not make it to the 1457 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 1: a f C Championship game. So it's gonna pull up 1458 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs here last year A few more in completions, 1459 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 1: so he was only completed of his past is sorry. 1460 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: He was a forty eight of sixty two, nine touchdowns, 1461 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 1: zero interceptions, average ten yards in attempt, thirteen yards per 1462 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 1: completion three or eighteen yards a game, and four and 1463 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 1: a half touchdowns and at a quarterback rating of one 1464 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 1: point zero. Right, And I don't know five years from 1465 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: now if you'll recollect that or if it's just because 1466 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 1: it's fresh in our memory, we will, Like if you 1467 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: don't finish the job, it can disappear on you. I mean, 1468 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,040 Speaker 1: what's amazing is if you remember in nineteen his first 1469 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 1: playoff game, Josh Allen was the Bills and the Texans, 1470 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: and he was dreadful. I remember we had the man 1471 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,759 Speaker 1: with whom this show's loins have were saying at the combine, 1472 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 1: we had him on at the combine, we had Vicon 1473 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 1: and he said he was really down on Josh, like well, 1474 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 1: like that he he might not be yet, like they 1475 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: got to figure out if he can be it or not. Well, 1476 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 1: he worked hard and since that time in the playoffs, 1477 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: he's completed over his passes with fourteen touchdowns, one interception, 1478 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: and the team and he's won three playoff games. I 1479 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,720 Speaker 1: don't know that anybody has improved more and since from 1480 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 1: what he was going into the league to what he 1481 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 1: is now. You know, I truly don't know. I don't. 1482 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody. I'm trying to think five 1483 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 1: six years ago, if there's a football, if there's a 1484 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 1: playoff team, well, yeah, it's a transcendent support like for example, 1485 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 1: do you think and it's not the same, And don't 1486 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 1: don't act like I'm not saying it's the same, but 1487 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of like it reminded me a little bit 1488 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 1: on a much smaller level and not the consequences. So 1489 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,479 Speaker 1: I think I put enough precursors into it of of 1490 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,640 Speaker 1: Lebron against Detroit when he scored every pime in a 1491 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 1: row whatever that was, and it's like, which is one 1492 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: of the most But I don't do people remember that 1493 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: outside of Cleveland now Lebron and it's maybe not it's 1494 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 1: argue these dominant I've ever seen anybody an individual in 1495 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: a team sport environment. That was I think maybe the 1496 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 1: best performance ever. Yeah, And I don't know if people 1497 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 1: outside of here remember it because that did not result 1498 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: in a championships with then they went and played the 1499 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Spurs swept, swept. I remember it, Yeah, we do, we do, 1500 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: But do the rest of us, you know, does everybody else? 1501 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,879 Speaker 1: Because it was something that happened in a loss. Like forever, 1502 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,559 Speaker 1: people remember the Carlton Fisk home run, the game six 1503 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 1: Red Sox home run this, but then they they lost. 1504 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,599 Speaker 1: I don't even know. Sometimes that moment was presented almost 1505 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 1: to where people think the Red Sox won the World 1506 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 1: Series on that end. You know, it's like it's like 1507 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 1: the Buckner moment. They didn't lose the series in that game. 1508 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: Don't you think? Those were? Though? And for the kids 1509 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 1: out there, if you were our age and you got 1510 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrator, one of those magazines, they would send you 1511 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: great moments in sports vhs and they would replay that 1512 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,280 Speaker 1: stuff on ESPN all the time. That's how I saw 1513 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. Of course, there was nowhere else, and it 1514 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,560 Speaker 1: was in like almost every ad for one of those things, 1515 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 1: always in the ads, ycause and that would be your team, 1516 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: and that's when you get I mean, those are the 1517 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 1: glory days when you would your team would win the 1518 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you'd get the big thing their year 1519 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 1: video and you'd get their sweatshirt and you know, everything 1520 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,920 Speaker 1: like that when they'd come out with the end of 1521 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 1: the year reviews and great Moments of the Year and 1522 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,320 Speaker 1: special issues of Sports Illustrated that had all that stuff. Yeah, 1523 01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 1: so you saw a lot of that. Let me ask you, 1524 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,599 Speaker 1: do you think people remember this because you talk about 1525 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,240 Speaker 1: winning so Joe Flacco, do you think people remember in 1526 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,759 Speaker 1: the year that they won the Super Bowl Joe Flacco 1527 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 1: lego four. No, obviously they wouldn't super leg beat the 1528 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,839 Speaker 1: Niners two thousand and twelve. That Flacco throws for basically 1529 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 1: three hundred yards a game, with eleven touchdowns and no 1530 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,800 Speaker 1: inter exceptions, average fifteen point six a completion nine yards 1531 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: an attempt. Quarterback rating a one twenty. Like, do you 1532 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 1: think anybody even remembers Joe Flacco in the role that 1533 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 1: he played in Super Bowl? No? I remember, didn't they 1534 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:18,680 Speaker 1: beat uh Denver? That's the one I raheem more. Yeah, 1535 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,200 Speaker 1: it was the safety was with us for a hot second. 1536 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think people remember how he 1537 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 1: bet on himself, but they couldn't tell you who he 1538 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 1: played or what he did in a game other than 1539 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, the Super Bowl win over thet But I 1540 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you what he like what his stats were. 1541 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 1: If there was something that stood out, I just I 1542 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 1: was at that Super remember being on the field after 1543 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 1: they wanted and they the NFL network post game was 1544 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 1: playing in the Superdome and Dion Sanders, he said, you're 1545 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 1: about to get paid and they did. You know he did. 1546 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 1: He did get paid based on because didn't he bet 1547 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 1: on himself? If the only thing you remember though, and 1548 01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: he would make one more appearance in the playoffs in 1549 01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,919 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, went one and went through six touchdowns 1550 01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: to who picks in those two games, but that was it. Yeah, yeah, 1551 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 1: it's but if you have finish the job, otherwise it 1552 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 1: goes away, it'll it'll disappear. Can Garland bran, No, he 1553 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have that athleticism. No, jaw Is jah Is, Derrick Rose, 1554 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:26,759 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, Um Derrick Row's previous prior to injury, Russell 1555 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 1: Westbrook level explosiveness. You know, they're just Garland does not 1556 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 1: have that explosiveness. I think Garland he's a rim wrecker. Yeah, 1557 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: he is. To me, Garland's game can be as he grows, 1558 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 1: can be how Chris Paul's has been job. Jaw also 1559 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,720 Speaker 1: has a little bit of if he were bigger and 1560 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 1: I might actually be wrong on their heights, but he 1561 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 1: just feels like he's bigger than Steph Marburry, like when 1562 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: Steph Marry was in his like peak prime. Yeah, because 1563 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 1: he would be dunk on people. He can, he could 1564 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 1: do it all. But I feel like John looks bigger. 1565 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 1: If John were six six, he'd be like Jordan Kobe, 1566 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,360 Speaker 1: like from an that type of athletists as young things 1567 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,080 Speaker 1: like six to as Johnny can't be much bigger than Marbury, 1568 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: then no, probably not. Wow, it was just bounced though, 1569 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 1: is it was amazing franchise. You knew there was only 1570 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 1: one guy touching the basketball down the floor. He's on him, 1571 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 1: and I didn't know if anybody else was going to 1572 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 1: get another touch unless it was an offensive rebound off 1573 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 1: of Mets and they could not stop it, which, yeah, 1574 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,680 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I mean now he's he was, 1575 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: he was sensational. It does feel like one of those 1576 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 1: moments we'll get into back to the draft talk here momentarily. 1577 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,800 Speaker 1: Take a look at some of these receivers, specifically guys 1578 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 1: who could be second rounders. Will know more obviously once 1579 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,160 Speaker 1: the first round and if there's a run that's coming 1580 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 1: up next. Let's to cleve the brounds dately on YESP 1581 01:17:45,320 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Cleveland owns daily sp N Cleveland. Are your 1582 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: business operations suffering from internal communication breakdowns? Bo Here from 1583 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,639 Speaker 1: my friends at eo x vantage, the data scientists also 1584 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,200 Speaker 1: business opts experts. Your e o x vantage team helps 1585 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 1: you build a streamlined communication system. Brings together your email, chat, 1586 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: Internet announcements, and CRM into one clear flow. Your people, 1587 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 1: including those who work remotely, gain a centralized hub. 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Draft Pro Comparisons analytical team fits for the 1597 01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:02,760 Speaker 1: top one receiver prospects. So that being said from a 1598 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 1: wide receiver standpoint. Garrett Wilson, her pro comp Odell Best, 1599 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,599 Speaker 1: don't mind that I don't mind that. I think that's okay, okay, 1600 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 1: maybe this is a little agree or disagree you a 1601 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 1: little traveling music. I think I think that seems fair. 1602 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of similarities there. Catches for sure. Yeah, 1603 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,920 Speaker 1: I think Garrett is a little And I didn't know 1604 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 1: this until we had Odell in the in the building. 1605 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: And I don't mean this as any sort of slight 1606 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 1: I think Garrett physically is a little more imposing than 1607 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:38,240 Speaker 1: Odell was. Um. I think it's like when we finally 1608 01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 1: got to meet O'Dell and he was here in the building, 1609 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 1: I was floor. I thought he would be physically more imposing, tremendous. No, 1610 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,480 Speaker 1: no, no no, of course, but like from a physical trait standpoint, 1611 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't. It was just a stunning amount 1612 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 1: of ball skills, incredible and late touch and burst and 1613 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 1: all of that stuff that was ridicted saying the villa body. 1614 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: But I think if two guys are just walking down 1615 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,200 Speaker 1: the street, you'd look at Wilson and go, yeah, that guy, 1616 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 1: he looks more of the part her team fit for 1617 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,720 Speaker 1: one Garrett Wilson the New York Football Jets. Yeah, I 1618 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,840 Speaker 1: mean that would work. Home run, You've got it. Like 1619 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 1: I said, you would have Elijah Moore working on the inside. 1620 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,160 Speaker 1: Corey Davis from her first round pick or early first 1621 01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 1: round pick of Tennessee. He's got thousand yard season under 1622 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,759 Speaker 1: his belt. Uh. And Wilson, I mean, if Zach Wilson 1623 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 1: can't make that work, that's on Zach Wilson. When did 1624 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:37,120 Speaker 1: they get rid of those uniforms? I hope they had 1625 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 1: good ones. They had great ones. I mean, you got 1626 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: what's your preferred era for them, name like Pennington. That's 1627 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 1: what they had with Pennington. Yeah. The only thing was 1628 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,760 Speaker 1: when when Joe was there, when Nameth was there, they 1629 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,160 Speaker 1: had a it was a little bit more of a 1630 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 1: Kelly green as opposed to the Hunter, a little bit 1631 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,120 Speaker 1: of a brighter green, which was great. By the way, 1632 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 1: as I I all, I Google search is Joe Nameth 1633 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,360 Speaker 1: Jets and among the images that pop up are him 1634 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: and Fara faucet and a towel. It's just fantastic. And 1635 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,559 Speaker 1: this appears to be him. I mean, this is him 1636 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 1: on the cover of Sports Illustrated in nineteen seventies, nineteen seventy. 1637 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 1: My god, look at him here. He looks like he 1638 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 1: could be sales. He could be on Black Sales. That 1639 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 1: looks right out of the Black Sales playbook. They don't 1640 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:35,280 Speaker 1: even identify the woman who's on the cover with him. 1641 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 1: Yeah it was Monday's for some reason. He has a holster. 1642 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 1: He's wearing a holster with bullets in it. Yea in 1643 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:48,400 Speaker 1: big thing. What a hero, He's everything you want. Nameth 1644 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams Alabama pro comparison per Cynthia Freeland will Fuller. 1645 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,240 Speaker 1: I feel like she might be doing him a little 1646 01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 1: disservice there. Will Fuller is incredibly productive when he could 1647 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,479 Speaker 1: stay healthy, very productive. I feel is he more? Is 1648 01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:09,400 Speaker 1: he more to Sean Jackson? I don't know if he 1649 01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:14,880 Speaker 1: has that. I was I was thinking Brandon Cooks, okay 1650 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 1: five ten. I think he's bigger than Cooks and he 1651 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,439 Speaker 1: can fly. I mean there's a lot there's some rugs 1652 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 1: to him, yeah you know. I mean there's a little 1653 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:32,400 Speaker 1: bit of that. How big was Ruggs is rugs like six? 1654 01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:40,600 Speaker 1: I know that could get dunk a basketball his uh. 1655 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:45,120 Speaker 1: By the way her team fit for Mr Jamison, the 1656 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,639 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs would be a home run. I don't 1657 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,760 Speaker 1: think he'll be there when they pick. I think I 1658 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,960 Speaker 1: think someone will go get him. He's going first receiver 1659 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 1: off the board. Let's go. It could be hot takes 1660 01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 1: all right, who's our comp for Drake London Vincent j 1661 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 1: oh Boy and her team fit Atlanta Falcons. Uh. He 1662 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 1: needs a quarterback that can If he's Vincent Jackson, you 1663 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 1: need a Philip Rivers. He's gonna get you ball down 1664 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:15,360 Speaker 1: the field. Because Vincent Jackson was big, fast, strong, vertical work. 1665 01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,680 Speaker 1: The intermedia game they play North Turner would play him 1666 01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,639 Speaker 1: the slot so you could get free releases Vincent Jackson. 1667 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,720 Speaker 1: I like that Atlanta. It feels like Atlanta is going 1668 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be the worst team in the 1669 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 1: league and they will be able to draft c J. 1670 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,439 Speaker 1: Stroud next year. You throw c J. Stroud with Kyle 1671 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,760 Speaker 1: Pitts and Drake London and now you're off. You got 1672 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,519 Speaker 1: some where, you got some things you can work with. 1673 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Her comparison for Chris Alaby, Chris Godwin and the best 1674 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:49,160 Speaker 1: team fit the Washington Commanders. I don't want him, and 1675 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they would draft him either because McLaurin 1676 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,799 Speaker 1: kind of already is that, like they're used vertically, it's 1677 01:23:55,840 --> 01:24:00,040 Speaker 1: more of your intermediate. But then they do this a 1678 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,920 Speaker 1: love right high for two guy like he's a burned 1679 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 1: guy too. I mean, he can gotta do everything you want. 1680 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 1: Two of those guys. He's justin Jefferson for you, that's 1681 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: that's the comp For me is a little bigger, I think. 1682 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:18,919 Speaker 1: But I love a love should I think that a lovey? 1683 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: There there are days where I'm like, I think a love. 1684 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 1: If I had to take him or Wilson, I would 1685 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,720 Speaker 1: take a lobby. I don't. I don't think that that's 1686 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 1: a stretch. I think that that's very very fair to 1687 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 1: have that opinion. They're both great. I mean I want 1688 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 1: him in Green Bay. I want him in Green Bay 1689 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,800 Speaker 1: or Kansas City. I want him with a green if 1690 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 1: he's a Green Bay. Say he's a better Randall Cop 1691 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 1: and Randall Cop was really good. Yeah he is better. 1692 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 1: He's he's just so I'm trying to I heard or 1693 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:50,080 Speaker 1: Lovesky say, um say this, and I think this is 1694 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:55,080 Speaker 1: what a love is. Such a clean prospect. There's nothing 1695 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:59,000 Speaker 1: there that you're like, uh nothing, I mean, it's just now. 1696 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,200 Speaker 1: He's probably doesn't have like Jamar Chase explosive you know, 1697 01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 1: make you miss, stop, start all that, but just plug 1698 01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,439 Speaker 1: yards ten touchdowns on a good team. I could see 1699 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 1: it next year, like if he went to Green Bay 1700 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Yards eight nine touchdowns. Yeah, he's old man, sold ye 1701 01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:22,439 Speaker 1: sold trailing Burke's some mocks have him pretty high up now, 1702 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 1: top ten, top fifteen, have him not in the first 1703 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,280 Speaker 1: round at all? Yeah, all over the trail. And Burke's 1704 01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:36,800 Speaker 1: pro comparison Dez Bryant, Oh boy, best team fit Philadelphia. 1705 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,200 Speaker 1: Think you want to go there? I mean I loved 1706 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 1: I was a big Dez Bryant guy. Yeah, he was 1707 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,640 Speaker 1: a stud at Oklahoma State too. Yes, I don't know that. 1708 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know that. Burks has that 1709 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,519 Speaker 1: receiving and he was a receiver. He was not a Yeah, 1710 01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 1: Burks kind of did everything, and he did everything. Did 1711 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,720 Speaker 1: wildcat ran the ball? How far did these go? Gibb it? 1712 01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,759 Speaker 1: Do we get into the second round? Guys, I'm working 1713 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 1: my way down. Johan Dotson pro comparison is Tyler Lockett 1714 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:09,920 Speaker 1: Team Fitts. Oh boy, he's really good there. That'd be 1715 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 1: real nice compliment, Pittman. That's a nice fire and ice 1716 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:18,760 Speaker 1: type of a combo. Can be healthy, can burn, he 1717 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:25,559 Speaker 1: can burn skymore Western Michigan Pro comparison Brandon Cooks team 1718 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,599 Speaker 1: fit the New York Football Giants. You can get all 1719 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,160 Speaker 1: the wide receivers by the way you want New York. 1720 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 1: You still have a garbage quarterback d Dimes. Ye, don't. 1721 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,639 Speaker 1: They have to do the fifth year option on him 1722 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,320 Speaker 1: within the next week. Him and Kyler are both up 1723 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,519 Speaker 1: for fifth year option. The next week. Some thought that 1724 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,679 Speaker 1: they're not going to pick up his fifth year option, 1725 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:46,439 Speaker 1: and then they just have to be in the Cousins 1726 01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,760 Speaker 1: situation because he's great, they franchise him and if not, yeah, 1727 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,719 Speaker 1: it's not the worst thing. That's as far as she goes. 1728 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 1: That's it. So who would still be on the board 1729 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,679 Speaker 1: at that point if the if the first round ends 1730 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,360 Speaker 1: and those seven, Yeah, we didn't hear Watson's name into 1731 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:07,040 Speaker 1: him rights Pickens, Jalen Tilbert from South Alabama, Christian Watson 1732 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 1: from North Dakota State, John Mechi Alabama, Alec Pierce, Cincinnati, 1733 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: David Bell Perdue would be David Bell. David Bell is 1734 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: a really good player. He's a really really good Yeah, 1735 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,760 Speaker 1: but neither was Jarvis coming out the guys. All he 1736 01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,960 Speaker 1: did was set the record for most catches first five 1737 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 1: years in the league. You know what I mean. I 1738 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,360 Speaker 1: think Jarvis ran a four seven, if I'm not mistaken, 1739 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,759 Speaker 1: David Bell and a mock few I think maybe one point. 1740 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 1: He was incredibly productive at Perdue. Now you watched a 1741 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 1: lot of Perdue. I'm guessing he didn't watch a lot 1742 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,120 Speaker 1: of Perdue. I watched a lot of I watched them 1743 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,679 Speaker 1: play Ohio State, and if memory serves, he shredded Ohio State. 1744 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,920 Speaker 1: So he and I wonder it was he a guy 1745 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,960 Speaker 1: that you know because ron Dale Moore didn't have the 1746 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,840 Speaker 1: impact that I think any of us expected in his 1747 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,719 Speaker 1: rookie year, not saying he started to He's Bell's big though, 1748 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:03,200 Speaker 1: like more more is more. It was more foot to twelve, 1749 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 1: but he ran a four six five plays bigger than 1750 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:10,040 Speaker 1: six ft some people. And that's it's that crazy. But 1751 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,720 Speaker 1: that's also hard to do at this level. And here's 1752 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:18,439 Speaker 1: the summation. Um, he was a guy who finished his 1753 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:23,280 Speaker 1: career hundred one point two receiving yards per game. Uh smooth, 1754 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 1: savvy pass catcher, dependable ball skills, flashes, Michael Pittman lik 1755 01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 1: ability at times fishing Nana's roots, but his ability to 1756 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,639 Speaker 1: uncover his base more on roots subtleties and not roots. 1757 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,839 Speaker 1: Sudden nous. Overall, He doesn't have ideal speed or explosive 1758 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 1: traits by NFL stands, but he's a productive ball winner 1759 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 1: with body control and toughness to translate to the pro game. 1760 01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,439 Speaker 1: A high floor, low ceiling NFL starter. Al Right, here's 1761 01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,479 Speaker 1: your here's sorry who What he did against the best 1762 01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,320 Speaker 1: defenses they played against Notre Dame, he was seven catches 1763 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,720 Speaker 1: for sixty four. That's fine. Iowia maybe have the best 1764 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,639 Speaker 1: defense at the Big Ten. Last year he was eleven 1765 01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 1: catches for two forty. Michigan State was of the number 1766 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 1: three great team in the country at the time they 1767 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,960 Speaker 1: played them. He had eleven catches for two seventeen. 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