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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we've always got a four

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Speaker 1: hundred page organizational bible just nearby in case we ever

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Speaker 1: need a new job.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio with my friends

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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodriege of The Athletic and Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 2: She's back, I'm back.

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Speaker 3: What's up. Great to see you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I was New Orleans jealous. It was great.

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Speaker 3: I love New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: I had only been there one other time and it

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Speaker 4: was for Thursday night football, so it was really quick

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Speaker 4: parachuted in and out. So this time I had a

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Speaker 4: little bit more of a chance to check it out

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Speaker 4: and have some good.

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Speaker 5: Dinners and New Drea, where'd you go? Where'd you go?

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Speaker 4: I don't remember the name of any of the places,

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Speaker 4: but I can get them to you.

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Speaker 3: It was just like and it was so festive there.

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Speaker 3: They really go.

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Speaker 4: All out for Christmas. It was so fun. And then

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Speaker 4: immediately very on brand for New Orleans. My first Uber

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Speaker 4: driver just immediately started talking about Lil Wayne. So there's

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Speaker 4: it's thriving there in New Orleans.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait for the super Bowl there.

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Speaker 1: I cannot either. We were talking about it earlier. And yes,

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Speaker 1: Colleen Will, we're a long way away from the summer

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Speaker 1: of Connie. When you're going around the country and you

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Speaker 1: were prepping, you were prepping for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait.

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Speaker 1: When I started out in this industry, I was at

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Speaker 1: roade a World NBC, and NBC sent me to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl for the very first time in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight for the two thousand and seven season Giants Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and I said, my goal, if I make it to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl in two thy and twelve, then I've

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Speaker 1: achieved something.

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Speaker 2: That's all I want out of this career.

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Speaker 1: And when I got there and it ended up being

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Speaker 1: for the NFL and doing around the NFL or pre

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Speaker 1: around the NFL, I was like, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking for anything more.

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Speaker 3: You can reach the mountain.

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Speaker 1: So to be back twelve years later, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully we're going to have you here there. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we can announce that yet, but let's go.

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Speaker 5: Jordan figures crossed. And Colleen, whenever you say you parachute

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Speaker 5: in somewhere, I never actually rule out the potential that

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Speaker 3: And that would be so cool and I actually would

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Speaker 3: like I would.

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Speaker 2: Not she is a pilot. She is a pilot.

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Speaker 4: I don't have my license street air legal, I guess

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Speaker 4: you could say, but I did go to ground school

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Speaker 4: for my private and yeah, working on some hours.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and and uh a stadium at the Super Pig

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Speaker 1: before a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Got to watch you, Oh yeah in the sixteen. That

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little holiday season. It's time on this show.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna send some holiday cards out. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've started receiving them. I kind of doubt either

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Speaker 1: of you guys are organized organized enough to send it.

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Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong.

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Speaker 4: This is a total shot. But you are not wrong, Okay,

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Speaker 4: And I'm sad that.

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Speaker 3: I haven't gotten any yet. I haven't gotten one holiday.

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Speaker 2: It's people that can you please me?

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Speaker 5: And Tucky will send you.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start sending myself guards.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll send the cards from one figure to another,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: It was really left wide open.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do a little TNF preview talk a

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Speaker 1: little Rams giants, and we got Stafford and Purty who

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Speaker 1: about that then. But let's start with the cards. And

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Speaker 1: this was your idea here, Colleen, And so I'm going

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Speaker 4: So I really love getting Christmas cards, which makes it

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Speaker 4: much sadder that I have not gotten one Christmas card yet.

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Speaker 3: But I'm really.

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Speaker 4: Festive, I'm in the spirit. So here we go. This

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Speaker 4: is my first Christmas card. Dear coach Tomlin, I know

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Speaker 4: you've been in the exact same spot for eighteen seasons now,

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Speaker 4: but for some reason, I can never find your address.

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Speaker 4: As the Coach of the Year award.

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Speaker 3: I've been sending myself around for a while now.

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Speaker 4: So I wanted to personally greet you this holiday season

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Speaker 4: and just get ahead.

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Speaker 3: Of things this year.

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Speaker 4: Christmas is a time for family, for love, for gratitude,

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Speaker 4: and I'm just so thankful to have you in my life,

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Speaker 4: despite never telling you before this As the longest tenured

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Speaker 4: never spent time together. I love coaches that win, and

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Speaker 4: considering you've never had a losing season and you're consistently

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Speaker 4: successful with an array of varying roster talent year after year,

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Speaker 4: with leadership and adaptability that deserves recognition, this seems long overdue.

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Speaker 4: I know you probably don't care about having me in

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Speaker 4: your life, but it's Christmas, Mike, and I hope this

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Speaker 4: new year brings me my wish of finding my way

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Speaker 4: into your heart and your warm embrace.

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Speaker 5: Oh a, it's a holiday card day.

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Speaker 3: Public.

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Speaker 5: This is what you're missing by not sending or receiving cards.

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Speaker 3: Come on, you can send them to the network. Someone

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Speaker 3: send me your dawn car.

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Speaker 1: Please do that and tell them it's care of Colleen

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Speaker 1: Wolfe at NFL Daily and put the address there you

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Speaker 1: can find it.

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Speaker 3: I will read one on the air.

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Speaker 5: We would if I get what that would be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I love that. I feel like in part because

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Speaker 1: of the New Hard Knocks. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: get five weeks of it. Just watching five minutes of that,

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, Yeah, that's why Mike Tomlin's never had

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Speaker 1: a losing season. It's so it's so obvious that his

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Speaker 2: It's there's no one like him.

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Speaker 5: It has to be either Tomlin or three of the

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Speaker 5: it's got to be one of one of these guys,

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Speaker 3: So his whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Was because he was asked about this before and he said,

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Speaker 4: that is overachieved for a team that the expectations weren't

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Speaker 4: pretty up there. So he doesn't really care if he

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Speaker 5: I love that though, because even in even in deferring

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Speaker 5: and like sort of like telling us why he doesn't

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Speaker 5: care as much about it he is. That's such a

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Speaker 5: flex Yes, Like I know my standard it is just

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Speaker 1: The standard is the standard, and this year's a little

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Speaker 1: different though because of the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Situation coming into the year.

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Speaker 1: The expectation high over under was about eight and a half,

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Speaker 1: which is average, but for a Steelers team, that's about

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Speaker 1: as low as it's ever going to be.

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Speaker 2: So I think you're onto something.

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Speaker 4: Everybody questions justin fields like switching to Russell Wilson, just

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Speaker 2: He didn't know.

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Speaker 1: He always knows, and yet if he doesn't win the award,

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Speaker 1: this card's going to almost seem like a little gas lady.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like, well it turned to sunder. It

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Speaker 3: hasn't like actually reached him.

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Speaker 1: Well if it gets there before Christmas that he doesn't

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Speaker 1: get the award, all right, Jordan, you give us a card.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I have a holiday card from a GM desperate

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Speaker 5: to keep his job. He'll do anything seriously to the

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Speaker 5: team owner. Season's greetings. I hope the holiday season is

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Speaker 5: bringing you warm times with family. I would like to

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Speaker 5: my office. This also could have been an email, but

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Speaker 5: for some reason I can't access my work account anymore,

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Speaker 5: and it says username not found, although the check's still cash,

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Speaker 5: so we're good right right. Holiday season aside, I'm also

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Speaker 5: writing to tell you how motivated I am to get

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Speaker 5: this coaching hire right this time. I'm leaving no stone unturned,

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Speaker 5: no angle unsearched. I'm looking for inspiration in places some

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm writing to you from a post office

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Speaker 5: down the street from Hopcat in Detroit, a bar where

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Speaker 5: tonight a Dan Campbell lookike contest was held.

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Speaker 5: I took a plane, a train, and an automobile okay,

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Speaker 5: the qualities of fan base holds dearest in its beloved

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Speaker 5: head coach. One hopeful winner even brought a wheelbarrow with

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Speaker 5: the kind of confidence we're looking for at our next

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Speaker 5: head coach. The actual winner, a man named Jeff Randall,

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Speaker 5: We're looking for that kind of energy. I have to

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Speaker 5: tell you I've never been more inspired. After three failed

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Speaker 5: attempts over the years, I finally understand Wow. NFL players

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Speaker 5: want a coach who gets them, who can navigate situational margins,

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Speaker 5: who builds a culture in the team building and in

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Speaker 5: the community, who hires a great staff. How crazy is that?

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Speaker 5: I promise you, if you activate my key card again,

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Speaker 5: I'll go find that coach. Please m.

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Speaker 3: A Christmas holiday card that is begging for a job.

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Speaker 1: Just a desperate general manager. Seriously, GM out there. I

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Speaker 1: was immediately trying to think, like what GM has gotten

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Speaker 1: that many swings up the Apple And you know what

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Speaker 1: one that came to mind was Nick Asario and Tom Telesco.

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Speaker 1: He did kind of get it done right on the

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Speaker 1: third try with the Tamiko Ryan, So you can't have

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Speaker 1: a happy ending.

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Speaker 5: I want to thank Colton Palsy, my colleague at the Athletic,

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Speaker 5: because he has this great recap of the Dan Campbell

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Speaker 5: brought on stage.

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Speaker 2: I love that one.

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Speaker 5: It just it seemed like an incredible atmosphere. It's looking

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Speaker 5: at all then big Dan energy.

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Speaker 1: I love the women that got in the mix here,

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Speaker 1: one of them legitimately just is Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Is it like a cardboard cutout? Is ai? I don't

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Speaker 2: even know, like that that guy right there, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's the one.

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Speaker 5: That's the guy who won. That's Jeff Randall. He won.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that look like Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Here's there are here's the thing there. There's no way

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Speaker 1: to recreate Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 5: Like.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting though that the Mike Tomlin's the Dan

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Speaker 1: It seems germane Ah, I've got a card that has

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Speaker 1: this too, Greg, Mary Christmas Man yet he had it

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Speaker 1: all right. Merry Christmas Man or whatever you guys celebrate

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Speaker 2: And sure yet you nailed that one, buddy. Wow, it's

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Speaker 1: I'm in a better place now. Good to see you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I heard that one too. I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 1: for God's sakes. Come on now, So when you're watching

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Speaker 2: Up in the sky. That's not Santa Claus.

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Speaker 1: That's one of those sexy deep balls falling from the

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Speaker 1: heavens to blow up one of your naz lazy narratives.

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Speaker 2: Win the seventh Russell Wilson, Wow.

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Speaker 5: Sheets of paper. Seems like for that cover there.

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Speaker 2: Was a lot of a lot of words like over libert.

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Speaker 3: Well, sometimes you get those like newsletters from people.

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Speaker 3: This is what's going on?

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Speaker 5: A third day of September.

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Speaker 1: My dog breathed, Did you know that Russell Wilson has

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Speaker 1: a catchphrase in Pittsburgh? No, and it's win the seventh

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Speaker 3: I did not know that he was doing catchphrases.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I thought he'd kind of given up.

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Speaker 5: But I wanted him to. At least he has d centered.

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Speaker 5: There's no lets, there's no first name reference by himself,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, and he does deserve respect out here

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Speaker 1: Yes, process, But to be fair, I think that section

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Speaker 1: I don't think like it's it's pretend they really all

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Speaker 5: You know what I really appreciated out of this letter

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Speaker 5: It was like a graciousness with two g's m about

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Speaker 5: and really just even the receipts provided by Russell to

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Speaker 2: It showed it he's a good list.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 2: He just showed he's a strong list.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little concerned that he is watching and listening

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Speaker 3: It's just a little worrying.

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Speaker 5: Is he Santa?

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Speaker 1: Where he's Santa's Russell Wilson real on the next NFL?

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Speaker 2: Do all right, Colleen, give give you another card?

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Speaker 4: Okay, here we go, where's my Music's great?

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Speaker 5: There she is?

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Speaker 4: Seasons Greetings to everyone trying to gaslight the Eagles into

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Speaker 3: I bring to you and your kin.

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Speaker 4: It's with great pleasure I inform you that everything is

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Speaker 4: better this holiday season. There's absolutely no tension or unresolved

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Speaker 3: And you'll tide during this special time of peace and joy.

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Speaker 6: You know, Christmas has all always brought the wolves closer

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Speaker 6: together as in my family, including Tim, including Tim, never

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Speaker 3: And that last one is true for aj Brown and Jalen.

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Speaker 4: Hurts to nine straight wins led them to this special

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Speaker 4: more cheerful if you didn't project your own problems onto

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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four has brought blessings

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Speaker 4: to twenty twenty five This year is not last year.

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Speaker 4: all of this, may the holiday spirit fill whatever emptiness

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Speaker 1: Okay, what a nice note depended on And I like that.

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Speaker 1: It's everyone trying to gases. It's basically everyone that you

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Speaker 2: I mean your emails.

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Speaker 3: So many cards went out. I'm out of cards.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, perturbed or upset or you know, on

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Speaker 5: It's interesting he said it so confidently in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Know, That's what I would say privately.

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Speaker 4: I think I think it was very it was done

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Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, I think so too. And it honestly, I

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Speaker 5: Isn't it so classic of what we know this regime

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like why vibes are fine?

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Speaker 5: It's like it's like a red flag team in terms

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Speaker 3: Gonna be fine, guys, Everything's totally fine. There's nothing to

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Speaker 1: was a great play by him. He just stood up

446
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: and walked stone face back to the huddle, and I

447
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 1: was like, man, is this guy having any fun at all?

448
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 3: He's all business.

449
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: I get it, Like he is a very serious dude,

450
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: but he just seems like he's gripping the ball too tight,

451
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: which is maybe what AJ Brown is getting out a

452
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Speaker 1: little bit.

453
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Speaker 4: It's like he has all been quite a few times

454
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Speaker 4: wide open and AJ did not go to him, or

455
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 4: Jalen did not go to him, or if he did,

456
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 4: it was not a great ball.

457
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 2: All right, let's get your next card, George.

458
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Speaker 5: This SOE's a little bit shorter than Greggs.

459
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Speaker 2: My next one's even longer.

460
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Speaker 5: Oh no, to this is to the rest of the MVP,

461
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Speaker 5: the rest in all caps of the MVP candidates From

462
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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, Dear Josh, se Quan Lamar, Jared and Pennay

463
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Speaker 5: writing to wish you a very warm Mvpson's greetings. Am

464
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Speaker 5: I right own, Jared, I know you love that one. Listen,

465
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Speaker 5: I still consider myself a part of this group. Have

466
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Speaker 5: you seen my stats? And boys, I know you're pulling

467
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 5: for me too, even though it's from the warm comforts

468
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 5: of your respective teams that haven't royally screwed each of

469
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Speaker 5: you over during MVP caliber seasons in literally literally historic fashion. Anyway,

470
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 5: this isn't about me, even though I fully expect to

471
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Speaker 5: take one of your spots on many five Canada ballots

472
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Speaker 5: when it comes to time co. But it's not about me.

473
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Speaker 5: I just wanted to wish you all a very happy holiday,

474
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Speaker 5: a happy hey, let me try that again. I wanted

475
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Speaker 5: to wish you all a very happy holiday and a

476
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Speaker 5: happy post season. Love you my bros. And you deserve it.

477
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Speaker 5: I mean I deserve it too, so does Jamar. But

478
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Speaker 5: it's not about me. It's not about me. Ps can

479
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Speaker 5: I and Jared can you send me ben Jonson's cell

480
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Speaker 5: phone on?

481
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Speaker 2: There you go.

482
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Speaker 1: I love Joe Burrow getting on our agenda by putting

483
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Speaker 1: Pinay just even.

484
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Speaker 2: On the list.

485
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Speaker 5: I know, right, get it? That wh gets it?

486
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: You never know.

487
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if Burrow went absolutely crazy down the stretch

488
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Speaker 1: and finished mentally crazy.

489
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Speaker 5: No, I mean just share with.

490
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Speaker 1: Him just the numbers, maybe they could be so good

491
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Speaker 1: that he does get it.

492
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Speaker 3: They're not mathematically out of well that too.

493
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 4: According to Cynthia Freeland, I asked her last night, so

494
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Speaker 4: how did the probability move?

495
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Speaker 2: She said, it went.

496
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Speaker 4: From like one point three percent to what looks like

497
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Speaker 4: about five percent chance of making the playoffs now, so hey,

498
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Speaker 4: I mean.

499
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Speaker 2: That's that's real.

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Speaker 5: Now.

501
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that those numbers, are you know,

502
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Speaker 1: accounting for the fact that it took the Cowboys completely

503
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: botching up, you know, fake pudd just to beat Cooper Rush. Like,

504
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: there was about fifty eight minutes of concern that reminded

505
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Speaker 1: you why this Spegels team is where they are and

506
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Speaker 1: that's what makes it so fresh.

507
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Speaker 3: They needed this, they really needed that.

508
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Speaker 5: And to reiterate, Joe Burrow is seventh in EPA per dropback,

509
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Speaker 5: seventh and totally first in completion attempts, completions, completion attempts, yards, touchdowns,

510
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Speaker 5: and fourth in passer rating. Joe would want me to

511
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Speaker 5: tell you that.

512
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Speaker 1: He is outstanding. He's a good looking young man. I

513
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Speaker 1: watched the game yesterday.

514
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Speaker 5: You're getting your stacy with.

515
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Speaker 1: The younger with some younger generation like friends of my

516
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Speaker 1: daughters and my friends, and there was a lot of

517
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow as hot talk that was between the moms

518
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Speaker 1: and the and the just saying he's connecting on the level.

519
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Speaker 4: Good for him, that's great. He's winning in multiple departments.

520
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Speaker 5: I guess anything from the dads or they.

521
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Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about his outfit quite a bit.

522
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I thought so I was going

523
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Speaker 4: to bring that up because I'm not even sure how

524
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Speaker 4: to describe it, because it was just like it was

525
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Speaker 4: a two piece matching set.

526
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Speaker 2: But they were like he was wearing Christmas lights lines

527
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Speaker 2: all over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but and it was almost like was it yarn like?

529
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Speaker 4: Kind of looked like yarn. It reminded me of or

530
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Speaker 4: like a house to created for Christmas with lights.

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Speaker 5: He was in the spirit, guys. Didn't you hear how

532
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Speaker 5: much in the spirit he was in.

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Speaker 1: His According to my sources, he he ate it, you know.

534
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Speaker 1: He he looked great.

535
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Speaker 3: Yeah, might we get you in that outfit?

536
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Speaker 1: My last card is that would be great. I would

537
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Speaker 1: not I would not eat. My last card is from

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick to exactly twenty nine. NFL Team Owners starts

539
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Speaker 1: out very traditionally, when the magic of Christmas fills the air.

540
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Speaker 2: I hope you find it everywhere.

541
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Speaker 1: I have found anything, but over the last few months,

542
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Speaker 1: after watching the human Detrius on the field and the

543
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Speaker 1: hackneyed tragic comedies that qualify for game plans in twenty

544
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: twenty four, surely you felt that something integral was missing

545
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Speaker 1: from this twenty twenty four season.

546
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Speaker 2: Namely me.

547
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: Oh, sure you could have found me on McAfee or

548
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: the Underdog show Coach with Michael Lombardi and Matt Patricia

549
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Speaker 1: two point zero, or The Man in CAF on Monday Nights,

550
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: or The Breakdown, a show with Peyton Manning that should

551
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: be football Nirvana and yet no one has told me

552
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: they watched it no One, or inside the NFL on

553
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Speaker 1: the CW, which at one point aired opposite The Breakdown Wow,

554
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Speaker 1: Or in my role with or in my role with

555
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Speaker 1: a thirty third team as a strategic advisor, which means

556
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm potentially advising on the Jets coaching stars. Or Let's

557
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: go a legendary podcast with Jim Gray in which I

558
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: replaced Master orator, How does the Tom Brady? If you

559
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: caught me on any of those mediums, you will recognize

560
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 1: I have not lost my fastball. I've been keeping up

561
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: with league trends and constructing a plan of attack that

562
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: makes that story about Mike McCarthy buying a PFF subscription

563
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty look like Harold and the Purple Cram

564
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Speaker 1: No book. I will return better than ever, but with

565
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Speaker 1: many of the favorites you came to love. Patricia two

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Speaker 1: point zero, Humble, Josh McDaniels, and Dante Scarnekia. If that

567
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: rascal would just return my calls, think same old greatest

568
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: coach of old time, but with a ib new banner.

569
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Speaker 1: And yet I haven't heard from any of you. No

570
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: one responds to my dms. I am sending this while

571
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: flirting as hard as I possibly can with UNC and

572
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: other college teams, just hoping that being wanted makes me

573
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: look more attractive to the league where my father once

574
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: played for the Detroit Lions. If you have any concerns

575
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: that I spoke negatively about your players or organizations on air,

576
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: fear not. I only dismiss players from the Jets, Patriots,

577
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: and Falcons because they wronged me, and you wouldn't want

578
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: to wrong me too, would you? From my home to yours,

579
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Speaker 1: I hope you have a hot, happy holiday season and

580
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: a prosperous new year, preferably with me running your organization.

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Speaker 2: Haha. Wink emoji So a holiday threat?

582
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, wink Emoji's new.

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00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like he tried to end it yeah after Wow.

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00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's learning. You know he could really I mean

585
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 5: with language like that, he could really connect with the youths.

586
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: You know, this guy could really use a break Bill Belichick.

587
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: So I hope he does get another job. He doesn't

588
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: have enough.

589
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: Now he doesn't all of those jobs. And the news

590
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: that came out from our friend Ali Connolly and Insider,

591
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: let's talk about it right now. Outside of this card.

592
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: Ollie Connolly, who's been on this show three or four times,

593
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: including co host in London, does an awesome job. One

594
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: of the best exes in OS guy has been reporting

595
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: about Bill Belichick. So let's just go over what he

596
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: reported to He said in his words that Belichick had

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00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: agreed to become the UNC next UNC coach, although the

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00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: UNC side of it was not settled. Belichick had handled

599
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: the school a four hundred page organizational bible with structure,

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Speaker 1: payment plans, staffing choices, and decisions on whether to commit

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Speaker 1: with UNC, and he's expected to know their decision maybe

602
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: by the time you guys hear this within twenty four hours.

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00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: You know, as of Tuesday morning, he has a college

604
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: and pro version of his updated manual, and he shared

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00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: it with NFL teams and schools, but he made one

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00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: specifically to UNC that touched on every aspect of the program.

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00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 1: And uh, there's already been some pushback at UNC from

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00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: their group of trustees because Essentially, Belichick is unsure if

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00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: the school will meet his demands, and he is unwilling

610
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: to negotiate at all. He just says, this is what

611
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Speaker 1: we're going to do. He wants, and it'll include a

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00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: GM that does all the signing of the players and

613
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: the probably the recruiting. Yeah, all of that and and

614
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: that's that's his plan.

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Speaker 2: Pretty amazing.

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00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: So Belichick would actually have a GM.

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Speaker 1: He would have Now that's not fair, that's not fair.

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00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: Maybe later in his career at the very end when

619
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Speaker 1: he was not runn but think of a lot of

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Speaker 1: good personnel people came from that tree.

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Speaker 3: But he wants full control over what's happened.

622
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 1: But yes, Scott Pialde was never totally in charge, if

623
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: that's your point, Nick Casaria.

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00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 5: No, we feared to another direction. But yeah, so this

625
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: is this is obviously a huge story. This is significant.

626
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Speaker 5: Kudos to Ali. By the way, we're going to start

627
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Speaker 5: referring to him as insider Ali.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 5: When I opened up the post this morning, I was like,

630
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 5: what the hell, why is Kirk Cousins breaking news? Yeah,

631
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, because they look so similar to me,

632
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 5: We really I have to they really don't. Yeah, this is.

633
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Speaker 5: It's also significant because it's there's more reporting and shining

634
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Speaker 5: a light on some of the dysfunction that's been happening

635
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Speaker 5: and the infighting among the board of trustees group over

636
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Speaker 5: at UNC. It's a thirteen person board of trustees, and

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Speaker 5: then the athletic director Bubbuck Cunningham and the chancellor of

638
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 5: the school, Lee Roberts, they were the ones who ended

639
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: up dismissing mac Brown, who reportedly had the support of

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Speaker 5: the trustees. And now there's infighting over financial restructuring and

641
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 5: financial allocations and personnel decisions such as this one. So

642
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 5: it doesn't surprise me that Bill Belichick, through his four

643
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 5: hundred page like manifesto, was like, hey, man, guys, this

644
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 5: is a mess, Like I want full control over what

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00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 5: we're doing. And the fact that they have. He has

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Speaker 5: salary allocations reportedly included within this and set numbers for everybody,

647
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: set personnel. Steve Belichick wh would have a role of course.

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Speaker 2: He would be the next head coach.

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Speaker 1: This whole story, to me, the most important thing from

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Speaker 1: it was that Belichick had already sent this to NFL

651
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: teams that he is ready to go work for UNC

652
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: because of something I've been saying on this show he

653
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Speaker 1: is not confident whatsoever that he is going to get

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Speaker 1: an NFL job, and he loves football and he wants

655
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Speaker 1: to coach. In fact, I would surmise that if he's

656
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: doing all this, he's guessing he won't have a job

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And he's got a plan and he's

658
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: done a lot of studying on how to make it

659
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Speaker 1: work at the college level that he would be excited about,

660
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: and here is his plan. Something tells me he's been

661
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Speaker 1: working like just like a little harder on this plan.

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Speaker 1: Then let's say his Let's Go appearance with Jim Gray.

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Speaker 2: It supports my theory that.

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Speaker 1: He has been phoning in these media appearances, which has

665
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Speaker 1: been really disappointing to me.

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Speaker 4: I have listen you personally also really I kind of

667
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: feel like it could be a marketing ploy too, like, Okay,

668
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: look at look at all of the people who want

669
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Speaker 4: me NFL, Like I could be going here. You could

670
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Speaker 4: lose out on me, like people want other people who

671
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Speaker 4: were wanted by other people.

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Speaker 1: That was what the card was all about. Yeah, you know,

673
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Speaker 1: he sort of he sort of got to.

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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, what does he have time to write all

675
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: of these bibles?

676
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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's what I was getting at. His full

677
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: time job has been making this bible and trying to

678
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Speaker 1: get jobs while he got all other media jobs here.

679
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Speaker 5: I hope he copyrighted the phrase the Belichick Bible, because

680
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 5: if none of this works out for him, sell that

681
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 5: thing man, bind it into an actual book and sell.

682
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: It would be the best seller immediately.

683
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: Yes, the Bill Walsh book Finding the Winning Edge is

684
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: just that, his sort of bible on football and is

685
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: one of the most famous and treasured football books of

686
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: all time. I can guarantee you Bill Belichick has it,

687
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: and it's up on his thing, and it'll cost you

688
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: like one hundred and eighty bucks on eBay to get it.

689
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: It's out of print, but he is the next guy

690
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Speaker 1: to do it. That would be amazing. Give him a job.

691
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Speaker 1: I hope you UNC gives him the job. Someone gives it.

692
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Speaker 5: It would be interesting to watch him navigate again a

693
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 5: very modern and rapidly changing college football. So do landscape,

694
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Speaker 5: particularly at that school. I cannot state this enough how significant,

695
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 5: And this is Brendan Markson Ralf Ruso at the Athletic

696
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 5: reporting on this for several months now. The infighting and

697
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Speaker 5: the interpersonal drama that is happening over it at UNC

698
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Speaker 5: with the board of trustees and between them, the athletic

699
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Speaker 5: director and the chancellor, and to throw a figures such

700
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Speaker 5: as Bill Belichick into the midst of that. And then also,

701
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: by the way, trying to be a football school.

702
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Speaker 1: You know, well they have it in the past. I

703
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: saw a story that said where they ranked in terms

704
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: of nil money and they were behind my two lane

705
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Green Wave, way low in the ranking. So they are

706
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: not a team, they're not an organization.

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Speaker 5: Fascinating structure over there.

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Speaker 4: Well, to your point, I found it really interesting that

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Speaker 4: he was talking to directly to the chancellor and not

710
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Speaker 4: the athletic director, because that's usually how it goes when

711
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 4: guys are hired to be a head coach.

712
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Speaker 1: And when you're going for a job like he is,

713
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: he might think this is a long shot actually that

714
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: UNC does all this, but he is absolutely prepared to

715
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Speaker 1: take the job if they are willing.

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Speaker 2: To do all that. Succession, Yeah, Steve Belichick.

717
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 5: Would have to take over baby succession.

718
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Speaker 1: And they would be fine with that. Apparently you're not

719
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: going to be able to pull that off at the NFL.

720
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Speaker 1: So I want Bill Belichick back in our lives and

721
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: I want him happy, and that's coaching football and clearly

722
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: not doing podcasts, even though I think he could have

723
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: had a lot of potential if he actually put the

724
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: energy that he put into coaching into doing that.

725
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 5: Take someone please think of Bill Belichick and throw him

726
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 5: a w Oh my god, would someone please about think

727
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 5: of him.

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Speaker 3: It's about On.

729
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: That note, we will take a break and we'll be

730
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Speaker 1: back talking about two teams that badly need a w

731
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Speaker 1: the Rams and.

732
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Speaker 2: The forty nine ers.

733
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Speaker 1: There's in a football so I want.

734
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Speaker 2: Back on NFL daily.

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Speaker 1: That Belichick thing happened to It means we can get

736
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Speaker 1: our UNC correspondent, David ee More back in. That would

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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. I just know I just

738
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Speaker 1: made his day, even just saying his name. Like no

739
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: one wants clout more than any of it.

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Speaker 5: He has reason for upim as the Panthers too. Yeah,

741
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 5: like love that for him.

742
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: Panthers have the most feel good three game losing streak

743
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.

744
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: It's awesome. Everything's all right.

745
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Speaker 1: It's the time of the show for our T and

746
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: F preview presented by Amazon Prime Video. Even going into

747
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 1: last weekend, we didn't know how important this game would

748
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: be if the Niners and Rams had lost to the

749
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: Bills and Bears, respectively, would feel kind of like a

750
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: dead game. And yet Jordan one of my favorite rivalries

751
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL, because of all the history between

752
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: the two coaches, which you've lovingly detailed on the athletic

753
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: and of course times hatefully with the play callers, it

754
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: matters that the winner of this game is gonna feel

755
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: a little something inside. The Rams will have every reason

756
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: to believe that they could maybe go make the playoffs

757
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: and at least get to Week eighteen with a chance

758
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: to win the division, and the forty nine Ers would

759
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: have just broken the heart of their rival and maybe

760
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: put themselves back in the mix at seven and seven.

761
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: Maybe both teams also coming off their best game that

762
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: they've played literally all season long. I know, I know

763
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: the difference in quality of competition was different, but for

764
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers fans, I think it was really exciting

765
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: for them to win a game convincingly. They literally haven't

766
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: done that, like since Week one against the Jets.

767
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: The coaches now are in a place where they have

768
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: like an ominous respect and friendship happening. Right although when

769
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 5: they play each other not so much. These teams freaking

770
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 5: hate each other though, Like there are players in both

771
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: locker rooms that they freaking hate each other. And you know,

772
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 5: Aaron Donald, who is retired, will still go come pop

773
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 5: up from out of nowhere, out of like this amazing

774
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 5: post career life that I hope he's taking every victory

775
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 5: lap he can, and he'll just say I hate that team,

776
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 5: Like he'll just be a sad bite somewhere, and like

777
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 5: that's the thing is. Even if the forty nine er,

778
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 5: i mean the forty nine ers, their window or their

779
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 5: their chance is slim, right, winning this game would be

780
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: huge form. It would swing things significantly, although they would

781
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 5: still have a long road ahead. Both teams have a

782
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 5: long road ahead regardless of the outcome. But they will

783
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 5: always be up for each other, like up to play

784
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 5: each other, ready to go. It will always be a

785
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 5: physical game. It does not matter who is at quarterback,

786
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Speaker 5: who is at running back. The forty nine ers are

787
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 5: going to be missing, probably Isaac Grendo who's dealing with

788
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 5: the foot sprain. It does not matter. This will be

789
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: a game that both teams get the heck up for

790
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 5: because it matters that much to the players in the

791
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: locker room, even regardless of the stake.

792
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Speaker 1: And the first time they play this year, the Rams

793
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: stole one. It's a big reason why they're in position

794
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: to possibly make the playoffs. Was that late comeback in

795
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: a game that San Francisco kind of dominated.

796
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: Early Shanahan had won nine straight games against Sean McVay,

797
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: and now in the regular season, now Sean McVay has

798
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: two in a row, so he can start his own.

799
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Speaker 3: Little streak here.

800
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Speaker 4: But I think one of the most interesting things about

801
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: this game is the fact that Pukanakua and Cooper Cup

802
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: will be playing together for the first time against the

803
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: forty nine ers. It's never happened before, so that I

804
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 4: think is obviously huge. They're averaging a ridiculous one hundred

805
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: and fifty point five combined receiving yards per game in

806
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: those twenty games that they have played together since Pukonakuah

807
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: was drafted, So now the forty nine ers have to

808
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: deal with both of them at the same time for

809
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: the first time.

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00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Couple of good last week they used them more vertically.

811
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: Everything they did last week was awesome and got Rams

812
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: fans like my daughter and wife thinking, oh wow, like

813
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: maybe they're gonna do it again because when their offense

814
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: is humming like that, that was as impressive an offensive

815
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: performance as we've seen all season long. If they can

816
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: run the ball on the forty nine ers and then

817
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: be that efficient with the big plays, they don't have

818
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: that long a road. Jordan, really, they we got to

819
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: win this game, but then you had you're at the

820
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Jets and you finished with two division games at home, Cardinals, Seahaw.

821
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Speaker 5: They control their own destiny, and they really do.

822
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 1: They could even afford to probably lose that Cardinals game

823
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: because Seattle has such a hard schedule and go in

824
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: with a chance. So I think it is very fair

825
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: because they've done it in the past, and because their

826
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: ceiling games are that high. To think, man, maybe they

827
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: are revnant. Back up again the offensive linet. Tell me

828
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Speaker 1: what you've seen out of them, and tell me why

829
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: you think they went empty so often. So that's what

830
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: they did very often. It means no running backs in

831
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: the backfield with Stafford. They did it to great effect

832
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: when they won the Super Bowl. They weren't doing it

833
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: nearly as much recently, and they did it way more

834
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: in that Bills game and kind of caught them off guard.

835
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Speaker 2: And very successfully. Do you think they keep doing that?

836
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, in part it's because they trust their offensive

837
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 5: line a little bit more. It's just going to be

838
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: the third game this year that that group as intended

839
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 5: will be together because of the injuries early in the season.

840
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: But they also go empty because Matthew Stafford likes to

841
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 5: use it to get teams to declare their pressure. So

842
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 5: all of the different intricacies that a team could send

843
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: against you, whether it's extra pressure, stand under pressure, the

844
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: types of even the types of like body language or

845
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 5: shifts that you see from a defense. When all of

846
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 5: a sudden you spread the field out wide into empty,

847
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 5: it gives Matthew Stafford a ton of information and then

848
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: he can adjust accordingly. And they also are using different

849
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 5: spacing on the field themselves to maybe get some of

850
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 5: the voids downfield that they that the Bills weren't quite expecting.

851
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 5: You saw players schemed open a lot this game, and

852
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 5: in part.

853
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: That's hasn't been happening quite as much this season end.

854
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I would say the receivers aren't necessarily it's

855
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 5: not the fastest group in the league. I mean, even

856
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 5: Pu Kunaku, who's an absolute superstar, it's not necessarily they're

857
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 5: not going to like wow you early in the route

858
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 5: necessarily other than some of these really physical catches. And

859
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 5: we know Cooper can he's still got some juice left

860
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 5: in him, and some of that short yardage stuff as well,

861
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 5: but overall it's not the fastest. So this group declaring

862
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 5: different voids on the field by spreading the field out wider,

863
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 5: win and empty, and then also you're disguising some of

864
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 5: your passing contours in that way, but you're also getting

865
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 5: the defense to tell you what it wants to do

866
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 5: you when you go in empty, which is why Matthew

867
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 5: Stafford really likes to use it. Now, this was a

868
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 5: Puka Nakua like ascension game in that we've seen.

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Speaker 3: That catch on the sideline, Yes, with that body control

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00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: was yeh.

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00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 5: Walcker is so correct. Pukakua does in fact rule and

872
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: part of it is he has no he has no

873
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 5: fear or like the biggest thing for him is he

874
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 5: loves football and he does not want to let anyone

875
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: down in the in particular Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford can

876
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 5: put him put it on him in any particular way

877
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 5: with with the catch radius that Pooka has, and the

878
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 5: trust that these two have developed, in part because Cooper

879
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 5: was injured for so much of last year, has really developed.

880
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 5: When Pukinakua is healthy and feeling good, he is almost

881
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 5: unguardable between the trust that Stafford has in him and

882
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 5: the catch radius that that widens because of that and

883
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 5: the crazy things he'll do to sell out for the ball.

884
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 5: But then also because he just he gets open. He's physical,

885
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 5: even when he is can tested, even when there's a

886
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: contact at the catch point, he just wins. This kid

887
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 5: is just a winner. He just is.

888
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: I love him like I do.

889
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: Wonder in this game if the forty nine ers defense,

890
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: like I feel like that game like no one rarely

891
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: watched that game live. When I went back to watch it,

892
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this was a great performance by Purty.

893
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

894
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: We're going to get to the quarterback Island element to

895
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: this in a second, but let's get through sort of

896
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: what the game talk to. Perty had one of his

897
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: best games of the season after getting kicked off quarterback Island.

898
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: Just like Matthew Stafford. He was pressured on forty eight

899
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: percent of his dropbacks against the Bears, which is a

900
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: really high number. And yet barely had an incompletion. He

901
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: was throwing with anticipation. He was fantastic. Kittle is having

902
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: a great, great season.

903
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: Yes, he's having an all pro level for his position.

904
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: See he's at eight hundred yards. It's him or Bowers

905
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: that those are the top two for me. Debo, let's

906
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: talk about Debo for a second. Debo had a funny

907
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: tweet afterwards. I don't know if you saw this, Colleen,

908
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: what is tweeted out? He's not struggling at all, just

909
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: not getting the ball.

910
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, a receiver that's like upset that he's

911
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: not getting the ball?

912
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: Is that what's happening here?

913
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: We were seeing a screen cap of it with four

914
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: million views, but you can no longer find it because

915
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: he has Does.

916
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: The views match the amount of times he used the

917
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 4: exclamation point?

918
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: He's deleted it? He is getting the ball. He's so

919
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: much less effective as a runner than he's ever been.

920
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: He's not breaking tackles. He's not the same Deebo. Samuel

921
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: I put it like when he had an anticipatory throw

922
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: early in that game that Perdy found him down the field.

923
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, more of that.

924
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Deebo catch a normal receiver like passed

925
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: on the field and so long, and they do give

926
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: him the ball six seven, eight times a game and

927
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: he's not the same guy as before. So was this uptick, Colleen?

928
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: You think for the forty nine ers, like their defense

929
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: and their offense playing a perfect game just a blip

930
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: or did they go on one of their late season

931
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: runs too, Because I wouldn't put it pass them. I've

932
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: just seen them win too much, especially in this matchup

933
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: that you mentioned. They have totally dominated except for the

934
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: most important game they ever played against each other, which

935
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: was the NFC Championship. But in the regular season they

936
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: they've had their number and it's a big test for me.

937
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: I think for Stafford and some of the older players

938
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: like Cup and some of the offensive line to get

939
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: it going again just on an on three days rest

940
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: and win again.

941
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: I think if one of these two teams is going

942
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: to go on a run based on their game last week,

943
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: it's going to be the Rams.

944
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: This is kind of what the Rams do also.

945
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I thought it was interesting last year they

946
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 4: went seven to one after their bye.

947
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 3: This year they're six and two.

948
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: They both struggled both years they struggled before the bye,

949
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: so they're kind of following that up. They were so

950
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 4: good on third down eleven of fifteen. That was an

951
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 4: area that they completely struggled in. I think they were

952
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 4: converting thirty three percent of the time. That was third

953
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 4: worst in the entire league. So now that they're healthy,

954
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 4: this is the offense that they kind of envisioned and

955
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 4: that I thought was going to be the case all

956
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: year long. So now that they have all the pieces

957
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 4: in place, I think it's the perfect time for them

958
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 4: to go on a run.

959
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: And I think that's what we're going to see.

960
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 5: Keep slowing me down with them, and they have a

961
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 5: massive pile of data from last year about getting hot

962
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 5: this time of year and then just going right. If

963
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 5: they would have won that wild card game against Detroit,

964
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 5: no team wanted to face them in the playoffs, and

965
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: you heard that pretty publicly from people after the fact.

966
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: But I also I sat in New Orleans up in

967
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 5: the rafters of the Superdome and I watched the Sean

968
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 5: McVay team with a full cast, with healthy receivers, with

969
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 5: a healthy Stafford, with a healthy Kiren and Puka and

970
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 5: Cooper get shut out in the first half against the

971
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 5: New Orleans Saints defense or buy the New New Orleans

972
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 5: Saints defense, and like to the point where it just

973
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 5: didn't it didn't just look bad. It looked like they

974
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 5: were moving backwards comparative to what they were able to

975
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 5: do against Buffalo. And so that's where I'm like, all right,

976
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 5: two games in a row. They have not done this

977
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 5: yet this season. They've beat bad teams and they've lost

978
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 5: to really good ones. Buffalo might have been their breakthrough,

979
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 5: and they certainly hope to carry this momentum forward and

980
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 5: to ride that wave because but they're going to need

981
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 5: more from their defense because Josh Allen, Wiers.

982
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: Say, is what it starts.

983
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 5: Yes, but Josh Allen went into like god mode, like

984
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 5: omniscient ball playing at that point. But you know, and

985
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: you can't do a lot against that if you're a

986
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 5: defense and you're reeling from explosive after explosive after explosive

987
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 5: that he's compounding against you. But they need more from

988
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 5: their defense. They need more from their defense. When a

989
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 5: quarterback works out of structure, they need more from their defense.

990
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 5: Tackling after the catch, they need more from their secondary.

991
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: So they need more from their young pass rushers I

992
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: would say they got They got run over in that

993
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: Eagles game, which wasn't really about the pass rushers. It

994
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: was about physicality. And in the last two weeks they

995
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: had a twenty five percent pressure rate and then they

996
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: had a twenty two percent pressure rate against Josh Allen,

997
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: which is really poor. So is this young group hitting

998
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: a bit of a wall.

999
00:47:59,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: We'll see. We don't know.

1000
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: If Williams is not practicing on Tuesday, neither's Nick Bosa.

1001
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: That's good news for the Rams, but you're right, the

1002
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: Rams need to get it going. But ultimately it is

1003
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: kind of about Stafford and now we get to the

1004
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: QB Island of it all, because this game will be

1005
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: really interesting for the QB Island discussion. One of the

1006
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: reasons when of the reasons said the same, why Matthew

1007
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: sav not about the QB Island seff one of the

1008
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: reasons why he's not out there. Like all time great

1009
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: players towards the end of their career, sometimes they can

1010
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: get it cranked up for that for a brilliant game,

1011
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: but they can't maybe do it week after week after week.

1012
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: And I think we've seen that out of Stafford this season,

1013
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: that he's had some lulls, and now he's got to

1014
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: do it on the road on a short rest against

1015
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: his rival, and then if he doesn't play well, Jordan,

1016
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: you can take back all that guilty feeling that you

1017
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: shouldn't have for kicking Stafford off set us up here.

1018
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: You've been going through it.

1019
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 5: I've been going through it. I think I've sent you

1020
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 5: like thirty texts about this fret I'm a fretterer. I'm

1021
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 5: a catastrophizer. It's part of what propels me through the

1022
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 5: season to get work done because I can never be

1023
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 5: behind on anything. And in this case, I am fretting

1024
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 5: and catastrophizing because I tried to be a good teammate

1025
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 5: on Quarterback Island after Greg Rosenthal and Colleen you were

1026
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 5: not here and you got to know what happened. I

1027
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: can't believe it because Greg autonomously decided to shrink the

1028
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 5: list down to ten, which is fine, that's we've talked

1029
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 5: about doing that, probably late in the season, down to ten.

1030
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 5: If it was still twelve, I had Matthew as my eleven.

1031
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 5: But shrinking down to ten, I wanted to be a

1032
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 5: good teammate and open debate, and because I had so

1033
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 5: vocally backed Matthew Stafford even in lull times. Over the

1034
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 5: course of the year, he's been hard to figure out.

1035
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 3: He's had stood by your man.

1036
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 5: He's had some highs, and he's had some real crash

1037
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 5: outs and some very erratic game And I thought, I'll

1038
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 5: be a good teammate. And because I was the one

1039
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 5: that fought for him so hard, I will say, Okay,

1040
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 5: let's talk about pulling him back and then we can revisit.

1041
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 5: At the end, we voted and all of that, and

1042
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 5: it was a triple no vote. We were all on

1043
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 5: the same accord because again there were ten spots. What

1044
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 5: I did not expect to happen late in the game

1045
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 5: was for Greg to totally just just bastardize the meaning

1046
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 5: of the riptide card in the meat and the worst

1047
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 5: way and just kidding. It was an accident. Greg accidentally

1048
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 5: messed up the definition of the riptide card, which is

1049
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 5: you have to pull somebody off the island, huh, and

1050
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 5: then you can vote over who can Instead, he autonomously

1051
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 5: put Gino on the island with no discussion. He tabled

1052
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 5: him the entire time because Steve brought him up as

1053
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 5: a potential no candidate.

1054
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: I think he was I.

1055
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 5: Don't necessarily agree with that, because he's been playing great football.

1056
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 5: But again, we were down to ten spots and it

1057
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 5: was supposed to come down to a tongue of I

1058
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 5: love who's been statistically extraordinary over the last several weeks,

1059
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 5: and it was going to come down to Geno, a

1060
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 5: debate between Geno to a probably Stafford again yes, and

1061
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 5: Sam Darnold. And instead what happened was Greg made us

1062
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: table the Geno discussion until the very end, then panicking

1063
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: pulled the the fake riptide card that had was not

1064
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 5: actually the definition of the previously introduced riptide card.

1065
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: I don't love that he's saying that this is a

1066
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 3: Colleen move.

1067
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: Well, what it was.

1068
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: What I was was I didn't understand the rules in

1069
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: the moment, which.

1070
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: Is a problem.

1071
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 5: You're so confident, the host of the show.

1072
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: No one pointed out to me at the time. We

1073
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: heard from a lot of listeners and what I said

1074
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: to Jordan on.

1075
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 5: Multiples and I've been in not.

1076
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: At as the executive producer of this segment, as the originator.

1077
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, a little controversy, isn't the worst thing.

1078
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: People are responding that they're very upset.

1079
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 5: That I can say that because your guy played great

1080
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 5: last week and the guy that I introduced to vote

1081
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 5: off played amazing.

1082
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: Here's where I could get you're conflating things. Vote.

1083
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: In the end, Stafford was not getting on that island

1084
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: me using the ripcord or not riptide or not he was.

1085
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: He was not getting on it. I was.

1086
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: I actually went into the Stafford discussion with the open mind.

1087
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: I had a list of about four or five guys, and

1088
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: I thought, maybe he's on, maybe he's not. He was

1089
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: kind of on my borderline, so I was surprised when

1090
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: you brought him up. But once we went through the conversation,

1091
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: it was clear both Steve and I would have had

1092
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: to a tongue of iloa over Stafford. We did have

1093
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold over Stafford, and we put him on, and

1094
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: from the.

1095
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: Sound of it, we probably both had you. So in

1096
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: the end, like the same thing happened. You made the

1097
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Speaker 2: right decision in the moment.

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Speaker 5: And you this is gaslighting. This is what dictators should

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Speaker 5: know when they don't give you a vote. You should

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Speaker 5: have We should have had the opportunity to discuss and vote,

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Speaker 5: because if we're really going to talk, there was really

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Speaker 5: and all of the deleted footage because I was not

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00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 5: in this show. If people could just hear all the

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00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 5: footage that didn't make it in the show about how

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00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 5: you thought there was less spots than.

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Speaker 2: For actually, well that was just losing track of.

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Speaker 5: We would have had you would have had you know,

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00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 5: we would have had of a Colleen movie. You would

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00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: have had one spot to bait between. And I'm serious.

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Speaker 5: I went back because I'm I've been a knots over this.

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00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 5: So I went back and I looked and I listened,

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Speaker 5: and I went back and I did the scouting report

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00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 5: and all of that, and I took notes because I'm

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00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 5: a psychopath and you're giving that literally, I know, like

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00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 5: literally giving.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you if you have any Here's

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00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: the thing, though, here's the thing, this is my hobby.

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00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. The QB island.

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Speaker 1: The projection, the QB Island placement is not a projection.

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Speaker 1: It's not a look ahead to see what you're going

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Speaker 1: to do. We could have done that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you could make it whatever you wanted. That's what

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Speaker 3: I heard the last time.

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00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 2: Apparently you could.

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Speaker 5: But it's about you can make it when it's greg

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00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 5: the rules.

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00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: Are you It's about what you've done and party got

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00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: booted off. Perty I thought had maybe his best game

1129
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: of the season last week, and because it wasn't against

1130
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: the Bills in the national window, it didn't get any

1131
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: attention to So he responded to the challenge that we

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00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: gave him. Stafford did as well, and it was the

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00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: right decision at the time, and we could have done

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00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to ease your guilty conscience because I

1135
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of Rams fans that are like,

1136
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: you kick Stafford off and now look what he's done.

1137
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: We could have done that. We could have done that

1138
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: version of that show ten different ways. And Stafford ultimately

1139
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: was never getting on because I think we were all

1140
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: in agreement that he was probably about twelfth two. It

1141
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: was ahead of him, Donald was at him. Gino probably

1142
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: would have been ahead him. It didn't matter.

1143
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: He was not getting on, no matter what, no matter

1144
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: when you brought him up. So don't put it all

1145
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 2: on Jordan, is what I'm saying. It wouldn't have happened, Thank.

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00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 5: You, Greg, And now i'm phil Calmer, but I will

1147
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: say the thing that should have happened is we should

1148
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 5: have been allowed to debate over the final opening between

1149
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 5: Gino and Stafford, although he was getting on Gino to

1150
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 5: Sam Donald and Matthew Stack.

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Speaker 1: You no reality television, A little controversy is good. Finger out.

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00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 5: You know what's great is the motivational tool that this

1153
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 5: clearly clearly provided truly to people who do not listen

1154
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 5: to the show in that Rockberty and Matthew Safford, to

1155
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 5: your point, Greg had incredible.

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00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't incredible.

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00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: I assume that Kelly Stafford's she's got ears everywhere who knows?

1158
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, she does.

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00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. Guys, how about that.

1160
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: Sleep number ad too? I like that that's.

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Speaker 4: Trying to get a sleep number in general, but I

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Speaker 4: mean in terms of this whole discussion that you guys

1163
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: are having. Can't go back, only can go forward. So

1164
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 4: hopefully there's debate in the next one.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Colleen for wrapping no problem.

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Speaker 5: So that's what happened last week.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I've been losing sleep as well. Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, I guess I'm going to pick the rams,

1169
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: but I don't believe it. I'm just gonna I I

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Speaker 1: my head actually says forty nine ers. But because I

1171
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: want to be on the side of my family, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want them to be happy. Ultimately, I'm going to

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00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: just pick them because I don't actually know what's going

1174
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: to happen. Little no in fact, so it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: who I pick, as we'll pick what I'm rooting for.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who do you actually think is gonna win?

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Speaker 1: Something in my head just says, actually the way seasons go,

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Speaker 1: like the forty nine Ers are gonna are going to

1179
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: ruin this like idea of a late season run by

1180
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Speaker 1: the Rams. Something says that, I think, and then neither

1181
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, ends up making the playoffs,

1182
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: and it's just annoying. I just don't want that to happen.

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00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I think the Rams are gonna win.

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00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 5: Okay, good, it is going to be raining, looks like

1185
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 5: looks like it'll be raining. Obviously outdoor stadium. The Rams

1186
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 5: don't have a ton of experience playing outside in elements

1187
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 5: being a California slash covered team. Although that sideways lightning

1188
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 5: for that Chargers game was a bit crazy, that one,

1189
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Speaker 5: oh that isle years ago. If the Rams can be

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00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 5: this team that they showed against the Bills, like they

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00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 5: they really they let it all hang out, right, And

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00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 5: so if they do that again, I think I don't

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00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 5: think anybody will have an easy time beating them. I'm

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00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 5: gonna pick theirs to settle my mentions down and my

1195
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 5: dms and my tags on social media sites that I

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 5: don't even use anymore, like check.

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Speaker 2: Us out on Blue Sky, gonna calm.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was for a while like a Bruski Yes,

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Speaker 4: I then realized it's Blue Sky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely not Buski out. The forty nine Ers are

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00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: favored by two and a half.

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00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 5: I feel some game in the elements.

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00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: I get that I feel better about just taking the

1204
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: points with the Rams than I would about picking either team,

1205
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: because it is truly a coin flip to me. That

1206
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: was this week's TNF preview, presented by Prime Video. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to watch the Los Angeles Rams take on the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers this Thursday on Prime Video.

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Speaker 2: That is it for this show. I'm looking forward to.

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Speaker 1: We got a special extra show dropping into the feed

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Speaker 1: later this week.

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, Colleen Wolf is going to be a part

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: My friend Anthony Jesselnick, with whom I do the Jesselnick

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00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: and Rosenthal Vanity Project Jarvy and also as a new

1216
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: Netflix special out. We're gonna sit down with him and

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00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: just have a little extra show and that'll drop in

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: to your fees later in the week.

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00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: Keep it, keep an eye on that.

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Speaker 1: The next time you'll hear us, though, we'll be our

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00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: previews show that's gonna be with my good friend Patrick

1222
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: Claybahn and special in studio guest Campbell. Love that look

1223
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: when a fictional Russ Wilson or is he fictional is

1224
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: writing a card to me.

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Speaker 2: You know football is back.