Speaker 1: Wait, so you're saying a fart can be lethal for
Speaker 1: a horse.
Speaker 2: A fart is a good thing, not farting it can
Speaker 2: be lethal.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm saying not farting can be lethal
Speaker 1: to a horse.
Speaker 2: It can be truly, damn yo.
Speaker 1: I have so much respect for more respectful horses. I
Speaker 1: fart to live as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's what I always tell my wife is
Speaker 3: that I had to do it. You know, you don't
Speaker 3: want to keep those things inside.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to die from a bad
Speaker 2: tummy ache.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next time I see a horse out there, I'm like,
Speaker 1: make sure that horse farts. You don't want to die.
Speaker 1: And they're like, okay, dude, yeah, some free advice, man,
Speaker 1: make sure that it's fart.
Speaker 2: Basically a veterinarian mm hmm, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think we were qualified to practice veterinary
Speaker 3: medicine at this point. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, congratulations. Stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start telling people that that you're.
Speaker 3: Qualified to practice veterinary medicine.
Speaker 4: Why.
Speaker 1: I've been saying that to get discounts at restaurants and stuff,
Speaker 1: But like, you know, now, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think that's what the vet discount means.
Speaker 1: Miles, huh okay, that makes sense. This makes sense now
Speaker 1: because they say no a lot. When I say that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, how would I know that a horse
Speaker 1: could die from not farting if I wasn't a vet?
Speaker 1: Right now, please take five dollars off my moon's over
Speaker 1: my Hammi breakfast plate.
Speaker 3: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three, forty seven,
Speaker 3: Episode four.
Speaker 5: Of durn Daily's I Guystay.
Speaker 3: Production of iHeart Radio. And this is a podcast where
Speaker 3: we take a deep dive into America share consciousness. It
Speaker 3: is Thursday July eighteenth, twenty twenty four, which of course means, Miles.
Speaker 1: Yes, Thursday July eighteenth is National Tropical Fruit Day. It's
Speaker 1: also National sour Candy Day, National caveyard Day. And guess
Speaker 1: what National doll whip Day shout out to that the
Speaker 1: vegan treat that people are they desperately seek it. Didney
Speaker 1: definitely like a theme.
Speaker 3: This day has a theme to it. Tropical cavr Yeah,
Speaker 3: caviard not. It doesn't quite fit in there. Although I
Speaker 3: eat that ship like candy because I'm bawling so hard, but.
Speaker 1: I like to yeah, I like to wrap it up
Speaker 1: in some sound dip. My sour patch kids in some
Speaker 1: Balluca caveyard. It's it's a hilarating.
Speaker 3: I always felt like the tropical fruit varietals of candy
Speaker 3: were never very good, like the Starbust, the Starbust, the
Speaker 3: Starbucks Starbus Bust about the Starbucks, the Starburst, the Skittles,
Speaker 3: the tropical varieties of those were never quite as good
Speaker 3: as just the old standards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they always tasted like soap adjacent, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it wasn't quite nailing what makes like
Speaker 1: like a mango good. It's like it's like a candle
Speaker 1: I think I'm eating, but it's sweet, so I guess
Speaker 1: I'll deal with it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what if regular Starburst? But you know the
Speaker 3: pink soap in dispensers, and like what if what if
Speaker 3: that a little bit more of that?
Speaker 1: Because you remember.
Speaker 3: Powder soap, the powder do you remember you in the.
Speaker 1: Bro I remember in my elementary school for the longest
Speaker 1: time that powdered soap come out of the dispensers. You know,
Speaker 1: we always trouble for like fucking just making like gigantic
Speaker 1: piles come out and just throwing it around to the bathroom.
Speaker 3: I only experienced the powdered soap when I went to
Speaker 3: a fancy restaurant and it was like that they were
Speaker 3: trying to impress by being like, you know, people used
Speaker 3: to use powdered soap, and it's like, here, congratulations, you're
Speaker 3: spending too much money on the food, and now you
Speaker 3: have soap that doesn't work.
Speaker 1: In my mind, powdered soap feels like a Cold War
Speaker 1: era like relic, like World War two, like that's how
Speaker 1: they were getting down before the modern era. To the
Speaker 1: point like, but that's at a fancy restaurant. Are they
Speaker 1: trying to be like, hey, every day is nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: three in here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so. I think that was kind of
Speaker 3: their vie. You know, they'll try anything, the fancy restauranteurs, truly.
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Speaker 3: it all link, Congratulations and I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 3: as always by my co host mister Miles Gras.
Speaker 1: Yes it's mister Miles Ray aka the Lord of Lancersham,
Speaker 1: the Emmy nominated Showgun with no Gun as they say,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean nominee, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: I was everybody's in Laga nominated.
Speaker 1: No, it didn't, it didn't, was it up? Didn't it should?
Speaker 1: Uh No, they definitely, they definitely were trying to get
Speaker 1: that thing that thing nominated for sure. I think it's
Speaker 1: also too like the I think when you saw the
Speaker 1: reactions of some of the like the traditional talk show
Speaker 1: guests like the Lettermans, the Link Seinfeldt, John Stewart, they
Speaker 1: were all like, what the this thing? This was fucked up?
Speaker 1: And I think the vote the Emmy voters were like,
Speaker 1: this is I think this show's sloppy and fucked up
Speaker 1: or something rather than like the lovable chaos that I
Speaker 1: think most people saw it for.
Speaker 3: But anyway, it was too good for the Emmys. Well, Miles,
Speaker 3: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 3: by a very talented writer who you know from the
Speaker 3: social media account Men Write Women, which documents all the
Speaker 3: amazing work, and it's about time somebody just shouted out
Speaker 3: male authors and how good they are describing women. The
Speaker 3: author of the new book A Tale of Two Titties
Speaker 3: satirical guide to writing Women like a best selling male author.
Speaker 3: It's Meg Bondrisco.
Speaker 2: Aka the Bitcher on the Twitter.
Speaker 3: Can I say on Twitter?
Speaker 2: There the poetry that I got, So we'll start there.
Speaker 1: There you go, welcome the Twitter. Tell me, yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on, Thank you for a Tale of
Speaker 1: two titties. It's coming out soon, right, it's like the
Speaker 1: end of the month or in like a week, yeah.
Speaker 4: July twenty third, which is kind of crazy. It's you know,
Speaker 4: I've been doing a lot of work to make sure
Speaker 4: I'm writing my breast for it and just really getting
Speaker 4: in the right space.
Speaker 3: Come on, now, I see what you did there. It's
Speaker 3: too wow wow wow wow whoa wa. But so what
Speaker 3: was the process like for researching this book? Researching for
Speaker 3: the Twitter account is an amazing follow, but how do
Speaker 3: you find these works of literary genius?
Speaker 4: My husband is an avid Stephen kingfan, so it started
Speaker 4: there was just you know, misogyny's everywhere. He's a big
Speaker 4: consumer of pop culture, so just by nature, you know,
Speaker 4: we're watching if it's streaming, we're probably watching it. And
Speaker 4: so kind of finding the material is like taking candy
Speaker 4: from a baby, like you just kind of throw a
Speaker 4: dart and you'll hit something. And especially when it comes
Speaker 4: to books, you know, there's so many best selling authors
Speaker 4: that truly just I think they just make it up.
Speaker 4: You know, they're kind of like if I write it,
Speaker 4: will my editor catch it? I just want to find
Speaker 4: out and next thing you know, it's in their published book, Well.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you kind of see this
Speaker 1: like of this time honored phenomenon of men writing like
Speaker 1: these female characters and knowing absolutely nothing about like anything,
Speaker 1: and like is it like I always see it as
Speaker 1: like it's sometimes like there are a lot of versions,
Speaker 1: like I feel like in eighties films, like it's just
Speaker 1: wish fulfilment, like I wish this is what this is
Speaker 1: what my perfect woman is like, or it's like this
Speaker 1: is like my crazy ex wife. They're all lunatic killer
Speaker 1: type people and you're like, what is going on? Well,
Speaker 1: how do you look at that process when you see
Speaker 1: these terrible sort of manifestations of what the a man
Speaker 1: the things a woman is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I honestly think that at this point,
Speaker 4: for a lot of writers, it's just a bad habit.
Speaker 2: You know, they have to kind of unteach themselves.
Speaker 4: And the more that they're reading, you know, other writers
Speaker 4: are watching you know, other media, the more that they're
Speaker 4: consuming this way that it's always been, and the easier
Speaker 4: it is to keep on doing what they're doing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I don't think that like Aaron Sorkin is sitting here
Speaker 4: being like there's only two types of women, a Jezebel
Speaker 4: and a lawyer.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not cognisant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's ingrained.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, It's like this is the palette that we've
Speaker 1: all agreed to use to paint with with our books.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite like description or just turn
Speaker 3: a phrase from the history of charting, your history of
Speaker 3: charting with Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Stephen King's a fantastic storyteller. He truly is.
Speaker 2: But he also I mean, what a what a way
Speaker 2: with words?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: In I think it's the shining.
Speaker 4: You know, there's that scene where this old deceased woman
Speaker 4: is coming out of a bathtub and he describes her
Speaker 4: breast as two cracked punching bags. And I guess it's
Speaker 4: ingrained in my nog and I think about it all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 1: Tell you Racked has even been to a boxing gym too?
Speaker 1: Even about boxing either.
Speaker 3: Also suggests he's not seen a boxing gym, a box,
Speaker 3: a punching bag before.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's got a plethora of options up
Speaker 2: in a up in northern Maine, up.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, upbird and amazing. Well, Meg, we're gonna get
Speaker 3: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 3: we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
Speaker 3: things that we're talking about today. We're gonna continue looking
Speaker 3: at the fallout from the assassination attempt on Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: and by that I mean, of course, new drifting opportunities,
Speaker 3: new merch sneakers, merch, baby, we got sneakers. Yo. These
Speaker 3: are not great. These these sneakers are the because they
Speaker 3: have like a photograph printed on them. Yeah, that always
Speaker 3: looks good on leather, on multi tiered like leather. I
Speaker 3: just I can't that they're.
Speaker 1: A rendering, you know what I mean. You're not seeing
Speaker 1: how the printing is consistently applied across the different panel
Speaker 1: in the upper and things like that. But anyway, he look, man,
Speaker 1: this is what happens when you have to throw together
Speaker 1: a grift sneaker within fucking twenty minutes to get that
Speaker 1: thing made. So when you look at.
Speaker 3: The stupid conspiracy theories rising up on both sides, we
Speaker 3: are going to check in with the Democrats attempt some
Speaker 3: Democrats attempt to replace Biden. There's new polling that says
Speaker 3: that he's running behind Am I reading this right? Everyone?
Speaker 3: Every possible person they could run from the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: Did they do they put scrappy Do in there too?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think scrappy Do is in there. Every other
Speaker 3: candidate outperforms Biden, complicating matters, Harris outperforms him, but not
Speaker 3: by as much as the average other candidates. So you know,
Speaker 3: bad times Dems indeed and disarray. And then we're going
Speaker 3: to check in with the new movie Twisters and just
Speaker 3: Hollywood in general relationship to a climate change, which they
Speaker 3: is just acknowledging that it is real, is apparently to message.
Speaker 6: You for hell, They're like, you know, I'm not here
Speaker 6: to get political about a thing that is definitely happening
Speaker 6: and is in no way political.
Speaker 3: That's not what I'm here to do. Anyways. All of
Speaker 3: that plenty more, But first Meg, we do like to
Speaker 3: ask our guests, what is something from your search history.
Speaker 2: This is a good question that I actually forgot to
Speaker 2: prepare for. But honestly, the last thing that I searched
Speaker 2: was Best Men's white tank tops not opaque. So I'm so.
Speaker 1: Sorry Best Men's not opaque. So a little you want
Speaker 1: a little bit to come through.
Speaker 2: No, I want to be able.
Speaker 4: I want to be able to wear it without like
Speaker 4: everybody seeing my goods.
Speaker 1: Oh oh wait, so you wanted to be okay, you
Speaker 1: wanted to be okay?
Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, I can't talk. Yes, okay, yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I was I was like, wait, they make
Speaker 1: these for dudes, like I thought, yeah, it would be
Speaker 1: like a me Marina or something you could wear the
Speaker 1: great Yeah yeah yeah. So what what's what's your current?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: Like you're just all in on tank tops. That's like
Speaker 1: the summer thing right now, and you're looking for that
Speaker 1: that solid white one that offers you the the old
Speaker 1: passion that you desire.
Speaker 4: Actually, I got my my husband these like two really
Speaker 4: cool vintage men's button downs, and I was like, this
Speaker 4: is going to be so great, Like you'll wear them
Speaker 4: over in opaque, you know, white men's tank and he
Speaker 4: refuses to do it.
Speaker 2: He says, he looks like ace Ventura. So I was
Speaker 2: really just looking for something.
Speaker 3: Like the unbuttoned yeah, yeah, the tank.
Speaker 1: They don't go with my maroon striped pants.
Speaker 2: I was going for Chris Pine right right right?
Speaker 3: Oh man, Chris Klin, I mean that's all. That's also
Speaker 3: a luck. I kind of I appreciate that that's what
Speaker 3: you're going for.
Speaker 1: Wait, Chris Kline the like heart throb of the late
Speaker 1: nineties early odds. Chris Cline.
Speaker 4: I met Chris Pine, who's got it?
Speaker 3: Was like interesting that Chris Pine. Definitely an amazing Mama
Speaker 3: Mia edition though I can't forget that. Yeah, and you
Speaker 3: made an amazing Street Fighter edition Chris. Are we talking
Speaker 3: Chris Klein again?
Speaker 1: Chris Klin? Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's like a there's like
Speaker 1: an unreleased audition of Mama mea where it's does not
Speaker 1: does not go great.
Speaker 3: He was going through something at a certain point in
Speaker 3: the last years that have you seen like all I
Speaker 3: think we talked about it on the show, but his
Speaker 3: like street Fighter, he like plays a cop in street
Speaker 3: like one of the Street Fighter sequels. I think it is.
Speaker 3: And it's no really yeah, yeah, it's where it's kind
Speaker 3: of you. You just have to see.
Speaker 1: The American pie guys aren't doing great, you know. I
Speaker 1: hate to say that. I hate to say that, but
Speaker 1: they're not.
Speaker 3: And we do hate to say it.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 3: What uh, what's something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: I've gotten into fountain pens lately.
Speaker 4: I'm embracing my constitution writer life.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but it's so fun.
Speaker 3: Does a fountain pen do you always dip it in
Speaker 3: ink or does the ink come from within?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it comes from within. It has a little
Speaker 4: ink cartridge that you can just like swap it out with.
Speaker 4: It started as like something fun to sign books with,
Speaker 4: but now it's just like amping it up so I
Speaker 4: don't have to write in black.
Speaker 2: Ink all the time.
Speaker 1: Is it isn't that like you like you need fountain
Speaker 1: pens to do like really good calligraphy, right, Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't do that.
Speaker 2: I can't do our.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I was just I was was curious if
Speaker 1: you were like really getting into that penmanship too with
Speaker 1: the fountain pen. It's just like, no, I like writing.
Speaker 1: This is a new kind of pen to use. I
Speaker 1: like different tools. Perfect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to keep my daily planner beautiful for
Speaker 4: you know, whoever stumbles upon it in twenty.
Speaker 1: Years, right right right to like huh, A lot of
Speaker 1: the same stuff over and over again with what shade
Speaker 1: of blue is this? Inc?
Speaker 3: I need a smooth ball point I can't like. The
Speaker 3: fountain is just too When I've tried to use that,
Speaker 3: it's just like there will be a blotch followed by
Speaker 3: like a streak followed. I don't know, I just don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I just never learned how to
Speaker 3: do it correctly, but I sucked at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's one secret?
Speaker 4: Meg, Anything but pencils is the is the secret? Also
Speaker 4: supposedly like the more expensive your fountain pen is the
Speaker 4: nicer it is.
Speaker 2: But I mind's like forty dollars for not doing all that.
Speaker 1: What's like the high end on like a mom Blanc.
Speaker 4: Yes, I cannot tell you what it goes for, but
Speaker 4: it sounds like it costs more than my rent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just added like blanc.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they look that thirteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Because my mom was also like a big pen person.
Speaker 1: Like now she doesn't really care so much, but I
Speaker 1: remember she would be.
Speaker 8: Like, Oh, that's that's the pen a mom blanc, that's
Speaker 8: the fucking shit you want to come like, Okay, I
Speaker 8: will continue to use this like RSVP gel pen that
Speaker 8: I've been using for ages.
Speaker 3: I got to pick up an expensive habit, I think
Speaker 3: is what I'm learning. I mean, horses, fountain pens, watch it.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of watch guys that I know
Speaker 3: that I'm just I'm not what would you do? You're
Speaker 3: not but you're not like a big like I guess
Speaker 3: sneakers is I have to consume? Yeah, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I just saw this new sneaker
Speaker 3: that is a historically important sneaker that I can spend
Speaker 3: some money on.
Speaker 1: So more on that.
Speaker 3: Soon, got a got a garage full of those bad boys.
Speaker 3: I went in deep. I'm kind of some might say,
Speaker 3: over leveraged on Trump sneakers. Yeah, Meg, what is something
Speaker 3: you think is overrated?
Speaker 2: Bad time to say recycled? IP?
Speaker 4: I think if I see one more like Jurassic Park remake,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna crawl out of my skin.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Wait, what's the one that I mean?
Speaker 1: That's so you were over it when the last Jurassic
Speaker 1: Park thing came out? Or is there something that was
Speaker 1: over it?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: No, I was over when the first Chris Prout one
Speaker 4: came out, Like I loved all the movies, grew up
Speaker 4: on them, read the books. It was super amped for it,
Speaker 4: only to be just like wholly disappointed by what's essentially
Speaker 4: a really shitty shot for shot remake of the original.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but this time the park is open, so right, right, right?
Speaker 1: What if park is another group of children that are
Speaker 1: in danger?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this time their babysitter gets eaten brutally in
Speaker 3: horror file right instead of instead of the lawyer. They
Speaker 3: were like, what about just this girl who's on her
Speaker 3: phone too much? Let's have there ripped limb for limb?
Speaker 1: Are there any reboot sequel things that you are excited about?
Speaker 1: If like Beetlejuice is the only thing I've heard, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh I loved Beetlejuice enough, I think I
Speaker 1: can give.
Speaker 3: You said it twice. I need you to stop right now. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: we're back. Some wild shit just happened. We're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: Edit uncontrollably singing Harry Belafonte. I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: to me, but yeah, Meg, is there any anything like
Speaker 1: that you like that does pass to the Meg test?
Speaker 2: That that implies that it's it's a tough test to pass. No,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, like, I'll definitely I'll be sat.
Speaker 4: For Twisters, but that's it's mostly like a Glenn Powell thing,
Speaker 4: So you know, got.
Speaker 3: A Twisters is getting my ass. I don't think I
Speaker 3: even saw the original Twister, butters, Now, you didn't see
Speaker 3: the original Twister, just seen parts like I've seen parts
Speaker 3: of it on TV, but like, I never I didn't
Speaker 3: even see it in theaters. Bro, you this is the
Speaker 3: most you've ever been of me. I can't believe.
Speaker 1: Like Twister is such a seminal movie. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like for ninety for millennials, I feel like Twister was
Speaker 1: such a seminal movie that to say that you haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, I was like, you haven't just part.
Speaker 3: To say to even say that, I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Haven't seen it either, I'm gonna be so for real, right.
Speaker 3: Miles, here's the thing, You're the only right now, where
Speaker 3: the fuck. I've listened to podcasts recapping Twister and I've
Speaker 3: not seen Twister. That's that's how good it sounds to me.
Speaker 3: But Twisters, like the trailer for that looks good. I
Speaker 3: like Minari quite a bit, and I really liked the
Speaker 3: sort of rural American vibe that that movie created. And
Speaker 3: it's the director of that, so like part of me
Speaker 3: is like, well, I loved that movie so much. This
Speaker 3: is just gonna be like I better vote with my
Speaker 3: wallet and go see Twisters to support this filmmaker. Of course,
Speaker 3: it's like, well, in a better world, this wouldn't be
Speaker 3: his follow up movie.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna see it later tonight.
Speaker 3: Are you seeing Twisters? Yeah, because there's more than one Twister? Yes,
Speaker 3: there's more than one motherfucker twister. You were like twisters. Wait,
Speaker 3: like at the beginning of the word, You're like, come on, oh,
Speaker 3: why God, there's more than one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm coming for it.
Speaker 3: Looks good to me. Generally, it could be bad.
Speaker 1: You'll hear, you'll hear, you'll hear.
Speaker 3: It's crazy that I didn't see the first Twister because
Speaker 3: that was a script written by Michael Crichton that was like,
Speaker 3: I was a big I was a creton boy.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that either.
Speaker 4: I like a lot of his stuff, you know, talk
Speaker 4: about I'm not going to say he like writes women
Speaker 4: with depth, but at least they.
Speaker 1: Have jobs rights.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, Well, what's your favorite Crichton?
Speaker 4: I'm a big Jurassic part girl, Like I mean, Ellie
Speaker 4: Sadler's a boss, I think. Yeah, it's the Bookers is
Speaker 4: so good and so vivid in my don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: He goes into all the DNA sequencing and I just
Speaker 4: I just skipped those pages.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, right right, did you read Sphere.
Speaker 3: Were you a Sphere?
Speaker 2: No, I tried a timeline. I tried and then watched
Speaker 2: the movie, which was horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they did. They couldn't quite pull off any
Speaker 3: of the other books as movies. Congo like came next
Speaker 3: after Jurassic Park, and people like this is the one.
Speaker 3: This is just gonna be like another Jurassic Park. We're
Speaker 3: gonna be printing money from this guy.
Speaker 1: Clo Films.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Congo.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. It's so fucking bad.
Speaker 3: It's amazing the novel I never saw Congo or Sphere,
Speaker 3: but the novels were as bit as Creighton Head as
Speaker 3: a criton Head that was like I never saw it,
Speaker 3: but I was like, oh, so bad, because that was
Speaker 3: when I like first started getting into like film criticism
Speaker 3: and being like if somebody was like this isn't good,
Speaker 3: I was like, must not be worth watching then, right.
Speaker 1: I think growing up in La like we just just
Speaker 1: had to consume everything that you saw that night.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like Congo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I think Sphere is the best of the books,
Speaker 3: though I recommend Sphere.
Speaker 1: We'll take that.
Speaker 3: Should we take a break and come back and talk
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about the news if you desire,
Speaker 3: if you desire, all right, we'll be right back, and
Speaker 3: we're back. And so, I don't know. There was a
Speaker 3: lot of conversation around like how Trump was gonna walk
Speaker 3: away from the assassination attempt, and you know, he's like
Speaker 3: he was going to be changed, he was going to
Speaker 3: be a unifier, and it seems like some things haven't
Speaker 3: changed at the very least. No, that is his willingness
Speaker 3: to grift to make that money, and.
Speaker 1: He's already ranting, you know, just like fire and brimstone
Speaker 1: type shit. So the unifying thing, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know where from aside from like a talking point.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. I mean, he's yet to actually give
Speaker 1: his real speech at the RNC, so we'll see. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the grift on his almost martyredom has begun because now
Speaker 1: one of his companies is selling shitty sneakers with that
Speaker 1: now famous image of him bloodied and fist pumping, and
Speaker 1: these limited edition high tops here. I'll share it with
Speaker 1: the class meg in case you need to see these,
Speaker 1: because they are they are fantastic. They look like something
Speaker 1: you'd put together on a word document. Just be like Okay,
Speaker 1: let me drag this, Let me drag.
Speaker 2: This, or it is generous.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: I think this is like meat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, it is MS paint and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true. It has his like fist, pumpy, bloody face
Speaker 1: on it with the word words fight, fight, Fight on
Speaker 1: the soul and I know this is clearly a mock
Speaker 1: up and not what the original or what the actual
Speaker 1: final products look like will look like. But either way,
Speaker 1: it looks like shit. But the way they are promoting
Speaker 1: it is quote, these limited edition high tops featuring Trump's
Speaker 1: iconic image with his fist raised honor his unwavering determination
Speaker 1: and bravery. With only five thousand pairs available, each one
Speaker 1: is a true collector's item. Show your support and patriotic
Speaker 1: pride with these exclusive sneakers capturing it defining moment in history.
Speaker 3: I think from him officially, are they oh yeah what yeah?
Speaker 3: You couldn't get away with it? Right? This is there?
Speaker 4: All?
Speaker 1: Well, first, I want to say before I get to
Speaker 1: the origin, they are only two hundred ninety nine dollars steel, right,
Speaker 1: And yes, thank you Meg, That's what I've been trying
Speaker 1: to tell Jack before we got on MIC.
Speaker 2: And admitted edition.
Speaker 3: The gold ones.
Speaker 1: You remember the gold ones that he debuted like sneaker
Speaker 1: con those sold for three ninety nine. So this is
Speaker 1: a bit of a This is a this is a
Speaker 1: nice entry point, you know what I mean? Through the
Speaker 1: door very heavy but no, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: like lead and the metallic materials. I think, so you
Speaker 1: should probably stop.
Speaker 2: Heavy is the foot that where's the shoe?
Speaker 10: Thank as the as they say, wow you are literary
Speaker 10: ship damn to online, dude, that was so fucking literary.
Speaker 1: Fuck with that, cole Man. I'm like sidelined and like
Speaker 1: I really got to step my shit up. But ten
Speaker 1: random pairs of these five thousand will be signed. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. These shoes, which I've called the air
Speaker 1: Red Flag twos, they are being made by the exact
Speaker 1: same company that did the gold sneaker. And Trump's like,
Speaker 1: they're not political, they don't have anything to do with
Speaker 1: the campaign or whatever. But this company he owns the
Speaker 1: fucking company that makes them. And like the address if
Speaker 1: you look for the business is located is like his
Speaker 1: golf one of his golf courses in Florida.
Speaker 3: So it's not technically like you shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 1: I mean Jack in the Year of Harlower twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: We know not what crime is. Yeah, what is it
Speaker 1: to even say that.
Speaker 2: Crimes don't exist anymore? It's just it's a free for all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only thought crimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem like bootleg like Avengers shoes, like you know,
Speaker 3: you know, like children's clothing or children's shoes that have
Speaker 3: just like a screen printed Robert Downey Junior on it,
Speaker 3: you know, like it, right, because you don't put photographs
Speaker 3: on shoes as far as like, I can't think of
Speaker 3: another example of a photograph on shoes other than whole
Speaker 3: like Avengers sneakers.
Speaker 1: Say, Jalen Brown, I think had some interesting paintings on
Speaker 1: his sneakers in the past, right, but I don't know
Speaker 1: about Yeah, I don't know about direct to garment printing.
Speaker 1: It looks like like what Homelander from the Boys would wear, like.
Speaker 3: Once he's fully washed. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I need these, like, I need pictures of these out
Speaker 3: in the wild because I think they're gonna look amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, just like the gold sneakers they spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: they looked like.
Speaker 2: Shit, what do you mean are they not American maid?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Not even close, not even close for them to turn
Speaker 1: the kind of profit they want off a three hundred
Speaker 1: ninety nine dollars sneaker, Like, I'm sure these are being
Speaker 1: made for like four to five. So do with that
Speaker 1: information what you will.
Speaker 3: It didn't just look like you were standing in the
Speaker 3: briefcase from pulp fiction. He just had the glow of
Speaker 3: the golden logo. No no, unfortunately not no. All right,
Speaker 3: So we still don't know much about the motive at
Speaker 3: this point of the person who the twenty year old
Speaker 3: Matthew Crooks. No, Matthew Crooks is his dad, right, his
Speaker 3: Thomas Matthew Crooks. Thomas Matthew Crooks. That's how you know
Speaker 3: three names. Yeah, But we continue to learn little bits
Speaker 3: about him, like that his dad was like highly targeted,
Speaker 3: highly indexed by the Trump campaign back in twenty sixteen
Speaker 3: because of he had all the all the factors you
Speaker 3: look for in a Facebook like data profile. He was
Speaker 3: like I think number seven of like thousands of people
Speaker 3: in his town.
Speaker 1: Like they're order to point ninety nine on a scale
Speaker 1: of one point zero in terms of like what they
Speaker 1: figured as like a voter who would be like especially
Speaker 1: open to targeted messaging around gun rights. Yes, so I
Speaker 1: mean all that really does is show that like crooks
Speaker 1: came from a conservative home, but like really nothing else
Speaker 1: about his motives. But meanwhile both sides continue to point
Speaker 1: fingers and come up with all kinds of shit. There's
Speaker 1: like it was Biden pulling strings with the Secret Service
Speaker 1: to get Trump got or.
Speaker 3: Trump definitely seems like by the way, like right now,
Speaker 3: he seems like somebody who's just behind everything, pulling the strings,
Speaker 3: super confident.
Speaker 1: Sure sure, sure yeah. Or a lot of liberals are
Speaker 1: coping by saying like this is Trump had to have
Speaker 1: staged this to help, you know, really cement his candidacy.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Then other people like this is retaliation from the deep state.
Speaker 1: Then there was like the Secret Service was trying to
Speaker 1: make it look like an accident and they was gonna
Speaker 1: get Jfkate or whatever. Then another person like it's the
Speaker 1: fact that there were women that exist in the Secret Service.
Speaker 3: That's that's why.
Speaker 2: And fun that's clearly the problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the DEI bullshit is so on point, like for
Speaker 1: the right, because everything is DEI now like it's whether
Speaker 1: that's their way to be like not at this point,
Speaker 1: not really coded racism but you know they're just like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the N word, saw say DEI.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I outwardly hate women. I'll
Speaker 1: let the policies speak for that, but I will I
Speaker 1: will summon DEI as a way to cast dispersions on
Speaker 1: the Secret Service. But like even Eric Trump was on
Speaker 1: CNN like fully putting his support behind the Secret Service agents.
Speaker 1: He said, quote, one of the females on the stage,
Speaker 1: she's with me for three years. I know everything about her.
Speaker 1: She would take a bullet for me. She would take
Speaker 1: a bullet for him, as courageous as they come. Same
Speaker 1: with everybody else who is around him. The head of
Speaker 1: his detail was on that stage too, So according to
Speaker 1: Eric Trump, quote the female one is okay.
Speaker 2: The best way to know that you're an ally to
Speaker 2: women you call them females.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the females on this stage, I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you on a men's rights podcast right now? What
Speaker 1: the fuck are you talking about? And it was also
Speaker 1: reported that earlier this week that the Secret Service was
Speaker 1: actually became aware of a plan that the Iranian government
Speaker 1: had a plot to potentially assassinate Trump said this quote,
Speaker 1: secret Service learned of the increased threat from this threat stream.
Speaker 1: The National Security Council directly contacted the Secret Service at
Speaker 1: a senior level to be absolutely sure they continue to
Speaker 1: track the latest reporting, and they said as a result
Speaker 1: of this quote, Secret Service surged resources and assets for
Speaker 1: the protection of former President Trump. All of this was
Speaker 1: in advance of Saturday. That means law enforcement was apparently
Speaker 1: beefing up their presence and had were being extra vigilant.
Speaker 1: Yet this person was able to climb on the roof
Speaker 1: of a building that had law enforcement inside of it,
Speaker 1: just to add insult to injury.
Speaker 3: So wait, there is law enforcement in the building that.
Speaker 7: He was on.
Speaker 3: Yo, what does that sound?
Speaker 1: It's like squirrels or something. But I think it's also
Speaker 1: entirely possible that, like the police are not good at
Speaker 1: their jobs.
Speaker 2: WHOA. Obviously I don't say it with your whole.
Speaker 7: Chiest Sorry, I don't know if I can, But maybe
Speaker 7: I could also be true here because I've seen a
Speaker 7: lot over the last few years that would suggest they're
Speaker 7: not the best at preventing crimes.
Speaker 1: They're usually really good at violating people's rights and personhood
Speaker 1: or you know, ending their lives tragically. That seems to
Speaker 1: be something that they have demonstrated high efficiency at. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's not the conversation being had right now.
Speaker 1: It's either DEI or it was staged. Those are your
Speaker 1: two options, Democrats and Republicans. I actually see no signs
Speaker 1: of societal rot here at all.
Speaker 3: We do not like incompetence as the explanation for a
Speaker 3: historical event. Generally we will just write the incompetence out,
Speaker 3: whether it be Hitler oversleeping on D Day and like
Speaker 3: everybody being too scared to wake him up, and that
Speaker 3: the thing that like helped the Allied forces win D Day,
Speaker 3: or you know, the version of the jfk assassination, which
Speaker 3: I think is the most reasonable explanation that a secret
Speaker 3: service agent actually fired the third shot that actually struck
Speaker 3: him in the head and killed him by accident. But
Speaker 3: when you raise that possibility to people, they are hostile.
Speaker 3: They're fucking they want you to shut up. Human error. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they don't like that shit at all. I don't know.
Speaker 4: This sounds like a great topic for me to bring
Speaker 4: up this Thanksgiving with my father.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we just don't want to admit that it's
Speaker 3: a bunch of dummies out there.
Speaker 1: What would the response be from your dad if you said,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe they messed up and aren't that good?
Speaker 2: Past the gin?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Well that is my favorite Thanksgiving side, is the gin?
Speaker 1: The gin? Sure? Sure, sure, yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: I do want to just touch on because the reasons
Speaker 3: to replace Joe Biden have not stopped rolling in. There's
Speaker 3: been some high profile moments, obviously in the aftermath of
Speaker 3: an attempted assassination on one of the presidential candidates. He
Speaker 3: had a couple of speeches that he gave. The one
Speaker 3: where he said we saw resolve our differences at the
Speaker 3: battle box and injured and.
Speaker 1: He was seriously injured.
Speaker 3: He was seriously injured, and the differences at the battle
Speaker 3: box and seems to recognize it and then go back
Speaker 3: and say battle box again. But that was pre taped, right,
Speaker 3: That wasn't That wasn't like a live press conference in
Speaker 3: front with an audience. It was like him at his desk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him at the desk. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know the nature of whether it was
Speaker 1: fully live or pre taped. Either way, he.
Speaker 3: Just couldn't pull it off. He couldn't do the thing.
Speaker 3: There's there's like this interview with Complex magazine where he
Speaker 3: just like can't do it. It's like nineteen minutes. He
Speaker 3: you know, it might seem like, oh, well, he doesn't
Speaker 3: give a shit. He's like with Complex, but like that
Speaker 3: he needs to nail every interview first of all, and
Speaker 3: also you know, it's like a young audience who he's
Speaker 3: really struggling with, and he just like can't maintain his
Speaker 3: train of thought. Like there's one part where you know,
Speaker 3: the first question the guy, the first question is like,
Speaker 3: so you're getting up there, man, like a lot of
Speaker 3: people think you're too old. And he I tried to
Speaker 3: transcribe this, but he says, I didn't plan on running
Speaker 3: because in twenty twenty, when Barack asked me to be
Speaker 3: vice president, which was a tremendous honor, I joined him,
Speaker 3: which was a great honor. But after that I became
Speaker 3: professor at the Universe. It's just like the timeline is
Speaker 3: like all fucked up.
Speaker 1: And then he like brought up Charlottesville and you're.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and that like all he had to say
Speaker 3: was like, well, I did want to run, and then
Speaker 3: Charlottesville happened and that's when I decided. But like he's
Speaker 3: just he can't stay on point and eat. Like there
Speaker 3: are multiple times in this interview where this like eighteen
Speaker 3: year old kid, I don't I don't know how old.
Speaker 9: Speedy's speedy Speedy Speedy is bailing him out, Like multiple
Speaker 9: times he's like okay, So that's later he's asked why
Speaker 9: Trump has support of people in the hip hop community,
Speaker 9: and like Biden talks about his work on civil rights
Speaker 9: in high school, I think, he says, but then like,
Speaker 9: can we just play the ending of this, yeah, because
Speaker 9: it's just he just shorts out.
Speaker 1: And the number of folks participating didn't slow down because
Speaker 1: it didn't reduce. So look, I you know Trump, there
Speaker 1: are some people who've made their mind and they decided.
Speaker 1: He said, oh, never mind. But you know, Trump, what
Speaker 1: is it with Speedy doing interviews where people get like
Speaker 1: the famous oh he's the Ray J indestructible su Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, go ahead, Speedy, break them. They're come on,
Speaker 1: I don't care. And now Joe Biden is I here, But.
Speaker 3: You know Trump pause pause pause.
Speaker 1: He did a similar thing at the NAACP convention too.
Speaker 3: It's just not working, Like it's just he's not like
Speaker 3: this is alarming to anybody who's not lying to themselves right.
Speaker 2: Now, anyone who has a pulse.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. So immediately after the assassination attempt
Speaker 3: on Donald Trump, people, we're making this argument that, well
Speaker 3: that this stops the attempt to replace Biden in its tracks,
Speaker 3: like the like they we can't that thing, that idea
Speaker 3: is dead and it doesn't make like there there's no
Speaker 3: argument there, Like the only argument I've seen is that
Speaker 3: Trump is like the attempted assassination is taking up all
Speaker 3: the media attention, but like, we're not asking for you
Speaker 3: to make a great TV moment, We're asking you to
Speaker 3: do what is best for the fucking country.
Speaker 4: And well, I think it's the same thing of like
Speaker 4: all the dumbs are just stuck and pillaying respectability politics.
Speaker 2: They don't want to they don't want to rock the boat,
Speaker 2: like they don't want to. I don't want to change anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but wouldn't when everyone's distracted be a good time
Speaker 3: to admit, like to go ahead and do the thing
Speaker 3: that you need to do with this candidate.
Speaker 2: And they're going to seize a good idea, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well this is the thing with the d n C, right,
Speaker 1: Like they're just so fully controlled by like that donor class,
Speaker 1: and they do a great job, as we've seen over
Speaker 1: the many years, at just outright ignoring public sentiment fully
Speaker 1: and like for some reason, the conversation only got frantic
Speaker 1: until after like the celebrity George Clooney in that New
Speaker 1: York Times breakup op ed was like, Yo, this dude
Speaker 1: is a fucking scale. What are we fucking talking about here?
Speaker 1: And not like it wasn't all the people saying he
Speaker 1: is too old for this shit for like literal years now,
Speaker 1: like you know, like they did everything they could. They
Speaker 1: nuked the primary debate schedule and pretty much forced this
Speaker 1: bad choice on everyone and hardly what I would call
Speaker 1: a you know, like democratic process. Yet we're being like
Speaker 1: beaten to death with this messaging about the fate of
Speaker 1: our democracy. It's really frustrating. And it's the DNC, like
Speaker 1: specifically that is like protecting Biden, and that's why we
Speaker 1: are now hearing talks of like a virtual role call
Speaker 1: to accelerate his nomination right and basically have him be
Speaker 1: the not Aye, like well over a month before the
Speaker 1: actual convention happens. And if that happened, that would effectively
Speaker 1: just make the actual convention meaningless. Like at the end
Speaker 1: of August, the whole point, even though it is very ceremonial,
Speaker 1: it's like to get a sort of you know, it's
Speaker 1: like we're moving out of the primary season and now
Speaker 1: we're into the general election season. Everybody's together, they're united
Speaker 1: around the candidate. But if they're like, sorry, assholes, we
Speaker 1: did this one behind your backs. This is your fucking person.
Speaker 1: Now you get to hear you know, Oprah make a
Speaker 1: speech or something, it's a very different, different, very different vibe.
Speaker 1: And I think again that's sort of how the DNC works.
Speaker 1: So it's like, we don't want anyone, we don't want
Speaker 1: any debate. We're go, don't want to discuss anything. We don't
Speaker 1: want any dissent. Because you also think about the thirty
Speaker 1: six delegates that are the uncommitted delegates in states that
Speaker 1: we're able to have delegates be uncommitted, like in Michigan, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: other states like that, that was that's a big moment
Speaker 1: for those people to really air their grievances about what's
Speaker 1: happening in Gaza and potentially get some kind of concession
Speaker 1: from the administration or potential new administration. But if it's
Speaker 1: all said and done, there's really nothing to be fucking
Speaker 1: worked out at all, and it just becomes like a
Speaker 1: foregone conclusion. And yeah, they just really don't want any
Speaker 1: open descent on the convention floor. And this is just
Speaker 1: sort of part and parcel of what they're doing. And
Speaker 1: now they're just fully just doubling down on this terrible
Speaker 1: fucking hand and demonstrating, you know that the lack of
Speaker 1: awareness that has plagued them.
Speaker 3: I mean they're actively pushing back against some of their
Speaker 3: biggest donors right now, which you know, like that is
Speaker 3: that's very UNDNC is to be like, well, what the
Speaker 3: fuck do you know? Like your donors, Like they're donors
Speaker 3: who are withholding funding from candidates like down you know,
Speaker 3: down ballot, down ballot, local candidates, they're withholding funding from
Speaker 3: them if they don't openly call for Biden this episode,
Speaker 3: like they're like you that we need you to do that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're getting a you know, outsize
Speaker 3: amount of attention on the people who want him to
Speaker 3: step aside, because that is the more interesting like news angle,
Speaker 3: and therefore it just seems like it's the consensus when
Speaker 3: it's a small portion of the consensus. But it does
Speaker 3: seem pretty straightforward. But I don't know how you run him.
Speaker 3: I just don't know how he continues to run the
Speaker 3: country and run for president.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, if like, if the decline was this series
Speaker 1: between twenty twenty and now, right, that's it going to
Speaker 1: look like between now, it doesn't get better even twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six, like the mid terms, and then you're fully
Speaker 1: dealing with like a meme president where people like, dude,
Speaker 1: this guy like the spooky Ghosts from Indiana Jones movie
Speaker 1: in a super like No, it's like not gonna work.
Speaker 1: It's just a and yeah, it's really It really hinders
Speaker 1: any kind of ground swell of support that could occur
Speaker 1: if there was a candidate where at least people are like, well,
Speaker 1: at least that person could formulate a sentence coherently in
Speaker 1: a debate consistently for the next four years.
Speaker 3: Ish. Yeah, I mean Biden has said like his logic
Speaker 3: is that he would only step aside if there was
Speaker 3: a health thing, which buddy, I don't like, but I
Speaker 3: guess he needs the doctors who gave him a clean
Speaker 3: bill of health like a few months ago, to come
Speaker 3: back and be like all right, we're fucking around like
Speaker 3: you're you're a mess up there. Or he also said
Speaker 3: if he thought there was no path for him to win,
Speaker 3: not if he thought someone else had a better path
Speaker 3: to win. It's just if he thought he had no
Speaker 3: path to win, which is pretty wild. Like, so his
Speaker 3: logic is entirely self centered, Like in that respect, it's
Speaker 3: only the only thing that matters is that he has
Speaker 3: a small chance at winning. They're trying to get us
Speaker 3: all on board with think about the collective good, Like
Speaker 3: that's all I'm thinking about, is like what could possibly
Speaker 3: stop Donald Trump being a next president? Like that, you know,
Speaker 3: that's what everybody else is thinking about. And he's like,
Speaker 3: only only if I can't possibly win, which seems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just wild. Well, this is the mindset that's
Speaker 1: like so pervasive and dc just in general and politics.
Speaker 1: It's just you have some of these people who are like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die holding on to power and that's like
Speaker 1: my right, and it only leads us to just again
Speaker 1: nothing inspiring, more of the same and at worst seeing
Speaker 1: this thing unfold in like a really grim way, while
Speaker 1: they continue to be like everything America will end and
Speaker 1: you're like and we're counting on. Okay, okay, wait, as long.
Speaker 4: As they can continue to just bang out the you
Speaker 4: need to vote, that's the only way you'll see change
Speaker 4: party line. You know, it's just the assumption that everyone's
Speaker 4: going to get in the line because it can't get.
Speaker 1: Worse, right, right, Yeah, it's yeah. Then that they've they've
Speaker 1: done an amazing job at making this all like, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty I need to look at his website, but ago
Speaker 1: there weren't really there wasn't really anything policy wise on
Speaker 1: their campaign website. It was just like issues, which I'm
Speaker 1: also like, come on, man, like where's the policy, Like,
Speaker 1: let's talk about policy rather than like, yeah, we know
Speaker 1: body autonomy is important. What's your fucking plan? We know
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is fucking corrupt and completely politicized. What's
Speaker 1: your plan? And it sounds like there he was supposed
Speaker 1: to make an announcement on that about on Monday, actually
Speaker 1: about Supreme Court reforms, but again, the assassination attempt completely
Speaker 1: has sort of derailed the speaking schedule.
Speaker 3: So but they are expecting, like by the time you
Speaker 3: hear this, there might be a plan out. It's supposed
Speaker 3: to be announced fairly soon. He's been working he's been
Speaker 3: in the lab talking to constitutional scholars about about like
Speaker 3: term limits and you know, various Supreme Court reforms. But
Speaker 3: I think it would be pretty tricky to pull off
Speaker 3: based on what I've read to this point.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what that plan is on Joe Biden dot
Speaker 1: com like under issues like it'll be things like protecting
Speaker 1: and strengthening our democracy, growing the middle class, fighting the
Speaker 1: lower costs for working families. It's more just like and
Speaker 1: it's always juxtaposed with like what the campaign believes and
Speaker 1: then what Trump would do. And it's never thinking like
Speaker 1: substantives like yeah, we need good high paying jobs. Okay,
Speaker 1: talk about how that becomes reality. It's like we we
Speaker 1: we believe in good high paying jobs. And it's like
Speaker 1: but Donald Trump doesn't, Oh okay, give a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Rather than just merely again they've this is like a
Speaker 1: gift on the curse. It is the gift in the
Speaker 1: curse and running against Yeah, it's the gift in the
Speaker 1: curse of running against Donald Trump. As we've seen is
Speaker 1: that the entire DNC strategy is just to merely just
Speaker 1: gesture to the Republicans as their entire platform and be like,
Speaker 1: well that no, and it's just it's completely that well
Speaker 1: has run pretty dry. At this point, I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 3: All right, well let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 3: come back and we'll talk about Twisters.
Speaker 5: Okay, and we're back.
Speaker 3: We're back, and you know, finally we have We're going
Speaker 3: to have resolution to all those pesky unanswered questions left
Speaker 3: dangling at the end of nineteen ninety six as Twister,
Speaker 3: there's you know, is he his father? Will will they won't? They?
Speaker 1: Will he kiss the Twister? We'll see, we don't know,
Speaker 1: a lot of tension.
Speaker 3: But yeah, So we're seeing the release of the blated sequel, Twisters, which,
Speaker 3: as mentioned, I was surprised to learn as directed by
Speaker 3: Lee Isaac Chung, the guy who made the acclaimed family
Speaker 3: drama Manari a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Did you guys see Manari? I actually saw the like you.
Speaker 1: It was like, I saw the first forty minutes of it.
Speaker 1: I think something with the baby, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm getting back to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I watched the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen the original Twister, but I've certainly seen Manari.
Speaker 1: Well, between the three of us, were covered. We're covered.
Speaker 1: We're covered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see Cinema.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, enjoy your little funny tornado movies. Okay, we
Speaker 1: like Christie Cinema. I get it.
Speaker 3: But reviews seem to be mixed. Better than I was expecting.
Speaker 3: I guess. Before I knew that le Isaac Chung was
Speaker 3: the director, I was like, well, this is going to
Speaker 3: be a turkey right, like this will this won't be
Speaker 3: a good movie by any means. The original was not
Speaker 3: a good movie, and this is a sequel that came
Speaker 3: out twenty some years later. Those don't usually work out.
Speaker 3: The only way it could be more I could be
Speaker 3: more skeptical, as if it was a prequel somehow, like
Speaker 3: Twister minus one. It's about the first Twister that ever happened. Yeah,
Speaker 3: dirt Devil, Yeah right, right exactly, that's right, Twister. But
Speaker 3: the reviews seem to be mixed, with critics noting that
Speaker 3: the tornado based thriller prioritizes and this is gonna surprise
Speaker 3: you guess spectacle over plot. Wait have they seen the
Speaker 3: first one? Right?
Speaker 1: It was a movie about just running away from a tornado.
Speaker 1: That's all the movie is. And it's made to look
Speaker 1: like it's basically a bunch of chase scenes of the tornado.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3: There's no plot tornado chase, tornado, fuck the movie.
Speaker 1: Running from the running from the tornado too is what
Speaker 1: essentially with this movie I think will be. But we'll see.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go see it.
Speaker 3: And they're like, they don't run from the tornado. That
Speaker 3: that's what's different about these folks the tornado. Other people
Speaker 3: they run from this guy he ride tornadom Anyways, the
Speaker 3: one detail that some people are pointing out is that
Speaker 3: none of the characters ever utter the words climate chair.
Speaker 3: This being a weather based action spectacle, you might assume
Speaker 3: that because in the real world tornadoes are becoming more
Speaker 3: widespread and more clustered, like they're more twisters scenarios where
Speaker 3: multiple tornadoes are happening around the same place and time,
Speaker 3: that it would be kind of right or even like
Speaker 3: weird not to mention it because it seems like such
Speaker 3: a tie in. But Chung has said that he doesn't
Speaker 3: think films should be message oriented, which I don't like.
Speaker 1: What it's a choice, How do you I mean inherently
Speaker 1: there is a message in some level.
Speaker 3: There shouldn't be messages or meaning.
Speaker 10: Even long legs, right, did Minari have a message to
Speaker 10: you as you watch that.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, no, maybe I'm just like it.
Speaker 3: Was in a different language. So I was just.
Speaker 1: Seriously, I mean, as people who saw it, like, I
Speaker 1: imagine there is he's getting at something in that film.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, like I know. So he says he
Speaker 3: claims his film is a reflection of the world, and
Speaker 3: pointed to one scene in which a local farmer complains
Speaker 3: that storms are more frequent, making the price of wheat
Speaker 3: more expensive. So like it seems like he's like, this
Speaker 3: is a reflection of the world. This is how people
Speaker 3: would talk about this. They would not come out and
Speaker 3: have a conversation about climate change. Maybe they wouldn't. They
Speaker 3: wouldn't have an explicit political message embedded in their conversations,
Speaker 3: which I don't know if that's true necessary, but I would.
Speaker 2: Totally disagree with it.
Speaker 4: There was an interview on NPR a couple of months
Speaker 4: ago with a farmer I think from like an Oklahoma
Speaker 4: who was talking about, you know, things that we're worried
Speaker 4: about is you know, there's we're experiencing more dry spells,
Speaker 4: hotter summers.
Speaker 2: But he's like, I would never vote for a Democrat,
Speaker 2: Like I don't believe in climate change.
Speaker 4: So it's I don't think it's like off topic, but
Speaker 4: you know, to your point, like a film's the opportunity
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I think part of me just knowing
Speaker 1: what the original was like and the reason why I'm
Speaker 1: even attracted by the proposition of a sequel is that
Speaker 1: it's there is no message. You go to see a
Speaker 1: big ass finger of God as they call it, like
Speaker 1: F five tornado touchdown and they run two or from it,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, like part of me is like
Speaker 1: I think maybe because the existential dread of climate change
Speaker 1: is so pervasive that it's like, man, just even in
Speaker 1: this one, let me just watch the fucking twister blow
Speaker 1: truck away man and a cow flies up into the thing,
Speaker 1: and like let'sten talk about climate change and like let's
Speaker 1: just let it be funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not watching Jaws to be told that, like
Speaker 4: the water, the ocean waters overheating and are driven close.
Speaker 3: I have that exact thought that, like, if you know,
Speaker 3: Jaws had like a moment where they were like and
Speaker 3: this is actually because of nuclear proliferation, I might be like, well,
Speaker 3: that right feels a little weird. But at the same time, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it seems you have tornado scientists, you
Speaker 3: have like weather experts, and do we really.
Speaker 4: Think that like meteorologists are like weather experts. This is
Speaker 4: my hot take, Like meteorolog or meteorologists real.
Speaker 3: Do they even exist?
Speaker 2: Can they predict anything at all?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 2: What is the science there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like people who work in the
Speaker 1: atmospheric sciences certainly, yeah, but like the weather person maybe
Speaker 1: a bit of a different bar scientifically to clear for sure.
Speaker 1: But I mean like there's also like like obviously yes,
Speaker 1: they're like the logic of climate change would suggest that
Speaker 1: they are linked, but even the people who are studying
Speaker 1: this or like there, they still haven't found what they
Speaker 1: would consider like a definitive link. And I'm not defending
Speaker 1: climate change or any like that, but I think just
Speaker 1: part of me too is just like I don't think
Speaker 1: Twister might is the movie to fucking talk about that,
Speaker 1: because it's so stupid to begin with that. I think
Speaker 1: they would just go in one ear and one out
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again it's I think it's I think
Speaker 1: would all come out in the wash either way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I think, like I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: like pressure from on high from you know, producers and
Speaker 3: studios being like, don't mention that because it's gonna first
Speaker 3: of all, we as billionaires don't believe in climate change,
Speaker 3: and second of all, it's just gonna alienate some of
Speaker 3: your view in public. But it's just across the board.
Speaker 3: Like a recent report found that two point eight percent
Speaker 3: of movies and TV shows from twenty sixteen to twenty
Speaker 3: twenty include any mention of climate change. The word dog
Speaker 3: was mentioned almost thirteen times as often as all thirty
Speaker 3: six climate keywords put together. So like just pulling a
Speaker 3: random word a random.
Speaker 4: Subject, and you feel like that's a fair comparison, like
Speaker 4: pull in like other policy issue.
Speaker 2: Everybody loves dogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, yeah, I think And also like very
Speaker 1: American too, like yeah, we know this is America. People
Speaker 1: care more about dogs than fucking people here right, let
Speaker 1: alone their own.
Speaker 2: Earth right down here in Texas, than I do.
Speaker 1: Right exactly, So I mean, but it does show like
Speaker 1: just generally too, like it most most films are really
Speaker 1: not wanting to confront I mean, most films don't confront
Speaker 1: a lot of serious issues in the way that arises
Speaker 1: to the mainstream, but are like you know, getting to
Speaker 1: like the top, like the tent pole type movies. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there there's certainly a way to have that
Speaker 1: in media that isn't being like that isn't going to
Speaker 1: make someone feel I mean like there are always people
Speaker 1: are gonna feel like, oh, you're preaching to me merely
Speaker 1: because you acknowledged the changing nature of like our client,
Speaker 1: like our Earth death. But you know, fuck those people.
Speaker 1: Just if it's relevant to your story, you can still
Speaker 1: you know, feature that kind of concept in it without
Speaker 1: it being anathema to people who are you know, don't
Speaker 1: want to hear stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean the movies that do reference climate
Speaker 3: change tend to be like pretty apocalyptic in nature, like
Speaker 3: The Day After Tomorrow and stuff like that, So you
Speaker 3: know that that's also probably leads people to down toward
Speaker 3: a direction of thinking that it's all hopeless and or unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Like I remember
Speaker 1: going to see The Day After Tomorrow in the theater
Speaker 1: and be like, holy shit, dude, you see the ice
Speaker 1: just fucking like froze that wolf like in as it
Speaker 1: was running. That's fucked up. And in my mind, I'm
Speaker 1: never like Wow, this could be the Like, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: Water World fucked me up more than The Day After
Speaker 1: Tomorrow and that movie literally doesn't mention climate change at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in my mind conceptual, I was like, what if
Speaker 1: they all melt? It's all water Now I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: My brain went right to Interstellar just because of the
Speaker 4: whole you know, dust bowl intro. Yeah, but that's I mean,
Speaker 4: equally as unbelievable as you know, time nonlinear.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about the science. There's no
Speaker 2: way I can figure that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, okay, I think I think those are
Speaker 3: both good examples of like how like a very specific thing,
Speaker 3: like you just take one of the things that could
Speaker 3: happen and focus on that. Like, I agree, those are
Speaker 3: the two examples that really stuck with me in the
Speaker 3: Day after Tomorrow. Seems like the dumbest possible approach, where
Speaker 3: it's just like ice laser is gonna come from space
Speaker 3: and freeze people where they stand, right, But.
Speaker 1: Like I think of it, like how Squid Game was
Speaker 1: such an effective critique of capitalism because they're not actually
Speaker 1: mentioning it, but they're they're kind of setting it up
Speaker 1: like in this metaphor and like the stressors that like
Speaker 1: affect the character's lives where people immediately go like, oh yeah, dude, exactly, man,
Speaker 1: it's like fucked up. And some people like arrive at
Speaker 1: WHOA like they have that moment.
Speaker 3: Because it's packaged, and some of us are just like
Speaker 3: that looks sick as fuck. I wish I could play
Speaker 3: that game.
Speaker 4: Well, that's a great example because we took something that
Speaker 4: was meant to be, you know, a conversation about capitalism,
Speaker 4: and turned it into a real thing that real people
Speaker 4: were competing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Last month, a environmental organization released a Bechdel Test esque
Speaker 3: climate reality check, which evaluates whether a climate change exists
Speaker 3: in the universe of a project and b if a
Speaker 3: character knows that it exists. So it's like you can
Speaker 3: tell that a character is aware of the existence of
Speaker 3: climate change. And the numbers weren't great. Of the top
Speaker 3: twenty box office earners between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: only four past this test. One of them was Venom
Speaker 3: and another one was Fast and Furious Presents Hobbs and Shaw.
Speaker 1: That's like, but then like when for like climate research
Speaker 1: and be like and these are the movies that did
Speaker 1: well and you're like, man, nobody took that away from
Speaker 1: watching Fast and Furious like Hobbs, I said, Thomas Hobbs,
Speaker 1: Hobbs and Shaw like there.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, I didn't see it,
Speaker 3: but maybe that's maybe our future climate scientists are going
Speaker 3: to be radicalized by Fast and Furious present presents Hobbs
Speaker 3: and Shaw more so than Greta Thunberg.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean, like.
Speaker 4: The chemistry between Venom and Eddie Brock is a lot
Speaker 4: stronger than you know, Eddie Brock and climate change.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. I'm just thinking, like I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: for for movies that would deal with something like this,
Speaker 1: like you kind of have to you really have to
Speaker 1: package it in a way that people don't like connect
Speaker 1: to the humanity of it first and and they can
Speaker 1: actually then connect the dots after the fact. I think
Speaker 1: for a film to really be impactful in that way
Speaker 1: for talking about something like climate change, are like how
Speaker 1: some of the best movies I like grapple like with racism.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's inherently built into the film where
Speaker 1: you kind of begin to understand the context in which
Speaker 1: the characters are operating without it being like Racism, the
Speaker 1: movie climate Change, the movie Capitalism, the movie You can
Speaker 1: still get those like really complex sort of ideas out
Speaker 1: in a way that connects, I think, without it having
Speaker 1: to be sort of front and center or not like
Speaker 1: front and center, but sort of sort of like so
Speaker 1: aggressively put forward and like how the characters are talking
Speaker 1: or whatever. But hey, I don't I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: also a person Like if I saw Twisters and they're like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: climate change is sucking up the planet, I'd like, yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck yeah, and then I would continue to nervously drink
Speaker 1: my diet coke in one sip because I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with all the dread I'm feeling.
Speaker 3: Just watch me Shotgun this shit, the other films, the
Speaker 3: other Blockbusters, Aquaman and Jurassic World, Dominion. So miss Pratt,
Speaker 3: you know he's doing is He's doing the work. So
Speaker 3: he's doing a work that's right. Well, Meg, such a
Speaker 3: pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you?
Speaker 3: Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 2: For sure?
Speaker 4: You can find me on Twitter at Men Write Women
Speaker 4: and on Instagram at meg Vandriska. And my book, A
Speaker 4: Tale of Two Titties is out July twenty third, wherever
Speaker 4: you want to pick up your book, your local indie, Amazon,
Speaker 4: Barnes and Noble gets there for you.
Speaker 3: Amazing, And is there a work of media that you've
Speaker 3: been enjoying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a tweet.
Speaker 4: I just saw Long Legs, like right when it came
Speaker 4: out and right after it, I'd see in you know
Speaker 4: Nick Cage saying that he was so inspired by watching
Speaker 4: his mom put on Noxema every morning that it inspired
Speaker 4: his makeup for Long Legs. So it's found a tweet
Speaker 4: of some kid like heavily upplying, you know, shaving cream
Speaker 4: to their face and serving it as inspo for long Legs.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's great, am Noma, I uh wore. There
Speaker 3: are some I've I've talked before about the moisturizing mask
Speaker 3: that my wife wears, all facial mash Korean skin facial masks,
Speaker 3: and just how good a horror movie mask it would.
Speaker 1: Make, Like if it dried onto arcas goopy also looks
Speaker 1: pretty menty if Karen products.
Speaker 4: In general or like like horror movie ask you know
Speaker 4: the ones that dry clear and you can peel it off, Yeah,
Speaker 4: peel it off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all it's all terror Miles. Where can people
Speaker 3: find you? Is their work media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Yeah at Twitter or Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: Find Jack and I on the basketball podcast Miles and
Speaker 1: Jack Got Mad Boosties. Find me talking ninety day on
Speaker 1: four to twenty Day Fiance. Let's see a couple of
Speaker 1: tweets I like. First one is from friend of the show,
Speaker 1: CJ Toldano at CJ Toledano tweeted, Biden should respond by
Speaker 1: staging a chase down block in a pickup basketball game.
Speaker 1: Would be lebron esque and may help a little bit.
Speaker 1: Another one I like is from Tabitha at the Taller
Speaker 1: Weft tweeted, Hey, We're all going to the brewery for
Speaker 1: Hecking Doggo trivia night. It's in a renovated factory with
Speaker 1: no sound absorption and you can play Giant Jenga. The
Speaker 1: food comes out of a window that says send nudes
Speaker 1: in giant neon letters. There are one hundred men named Greg.
Speaker 8: Here.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a place is always just like I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1: This might be the one in downtown, or probably every
Speaker 1: brewery in a major city has this exact vibe for
Speaker 1: some reason.
Speaker 2: It's on Austin six straight past fight all the.
Speaker 1: Time, right right right, Yeah, Giant Jenga and Brick Everywhere
Speaker 1: is pretty much like the the actual things you need
Speaker 1: to be called a brewery in twenty twenty four, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore.
Speaker 3: Brian tweet I've been enjoying lesbian Mothman tweeted. Dislike seeing
Speaker 3: adult twins in public. Feels like they're going to ask
Speaker 3: me a riddle, and I think, yeah, I think we
Speaker 3: can all go with that a little bit. You can
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Speaker 3: post our episodes and our footnotes when we look off
Speaker 3: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 3: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 3: what song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 1: Another track from the band Pond, which is again like
Speaker 1: an offshoot of Tame and Paula. Like many of the
Speaker 1: members of Pond have played in Tame and Paula and
Speaker 1: vice versa. So if you like Tame and Paula, you
Speaker 1: like this. The track is called Black Lung and it's
Speaker 1: just got like big big guitars and just a nice track,
Speaker 1: just a nice.
Speaker 3: Track, big crounchy guitar.
Speaker 1: Hey man, you like that big distorted guitar man with
Speaker 1: that chorus on there. But yeah, this is a great one,
Speaker 1: Black Long by Pond.
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