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Speaker 3: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three, forty seven,

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Speaker 3: Episode four.

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Speaker 3: Production of iHeart Radio. And this is a podcast where

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Speaker 3: we take a deep dive into America share consciousness. It

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Speaker 3: is Thursday July eighteenth, twenty twenty four, which of course means, Miles.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Thursday July eighteenth is National Tropical Fruit Day. It's

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Speaker 1: also National sour Candy Day, National caveyard Day. And guess

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Speaker 3: This day has a theme to it. Tropical cavr Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I always felt like the tropical fruit varietals of candy

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what if regular Starburst? But you know the

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Speaker 3: Powder soap, the powder do you remember you in the.

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Speaker 3: as always by my co host mister Miles Gras.

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Speaker 1: Yes it's mister Miles Ray aka the Lord of Lancersham,

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Speaker 1: the Emmy nominated Showgun with no Gun as they say,

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Speaker 3: amazing work, and it's about time somebody just shouted out

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Speaker 3: satirical guide to writing Women like a best selling male author.

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Speaker 3: It's Meg Bondrisco.

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Speaker 2: Aka the Bitcher on the Twitter.

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Speaker 3: Can I say on Twitter?

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Speaker 2: There the poetry that I got, So we'll start there.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, upbird and amazing. Well, Meg, we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: The stupid conspiracy theories rising up on both sides, we

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Speaker 3: Every possible person they could run from the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 6: You for hell, They're like, you know, I'm not here

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Speaker 3: That's not what I'm here to do. Anyways. All of

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Speaker 3: that plenty more, But first Meg, we do like to

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Speaker 2: This is a good question that I actually forgot to

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Speaker 2: No, I want to be able.

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Speaker 4: I want to be able to wear it without like

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Speaker 1: Like you're just all in on tank tops. That's like

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Speaker 4: Actually, I got my my husband these like two really

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Speaker 1: The American pie guys aren't doing great, you know. I

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Speaker 2: I've gotten into fountain pens lately.

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Speaker 4: I'm embracing my constitution writer life.

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Speaker 2: Ink all the time.

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Speaker 1: Is it isn't that like you like you need fountain

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I was just I was was curious if

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to keep my daily planner beautiful for

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Speaker 1: Years, right right right to like huh, A lot of

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Speaker 3: I need a smooth ball point I can't like. The

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Speaker 3: it's just like there will be a blotch followed by

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I just never learned how to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's one secret?

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Speaker 4: Meg, Anything but pencils is the is the secret? Also

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Speaker 2: But I mind's like forty dollars for not doing all that.

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Speaker 1: What's like the high end on like a mom Blanc.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I cannot tell you what it goes for, but

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they look that thirteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Because my mom was also like a big pen person.

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Speaker 8: Like, Oh, that's that's the pen a mom blanc, that's

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Speaker 3: I got to pick up an expensive habit, I think

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Speaker 1: So more on that.

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Speaker 3: Soon, got a got a garage full of those bad boys.

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Speaker 3: I went in deep. I'm kind of some might say,

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Speaker 2: Bad time to say recycled? IP?

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Speaker 4: I think if I see one more like Jurassic Park remake,

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Speaker 4: No, I was over when the first Chris Prout one

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but this time the park is open, so right, right, right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this time their babysitter gets eaten brutally in

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Speaker 1: Are there any reboot sequel things that you are excited about?

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Speaker 1: If like Beetlejuice is the only thing I've heard, and

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Speaker 3: You said it twice. I need you to stop right now. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: Edit uncontrollably singing Harry Belafonte. I don't know what happened

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Speaker 1: to me, but yeah, Meg, is there any anything like

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Speaker 2: That that implies that it's it's a tough test to pass. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, like, I'll definitely I'll be sat.

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Speaker 4: For Twisters, but that's it's mostly like a Glenn Powell thing,

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Speaker 3: A Twisters is getting my ass. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: Like Twister is such a seminal movie. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: To say to even say that, I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Haven't seen it either, I'm gonna be so for real, right.

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Speaker 3: Miles, here's the thing, You're the only right now, where

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Speaker 3: not seen Twister. That's that's how good it sounds to me.

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Speaker 3: But Twisters, like the trailer for that looks good. I

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Speaker 3: it's the director of that, so like part of me

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna see it later tonight.

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Speaker 3: Are you seeing Twisters? Yeah, because there's more than one Twister? Yes,

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Speaker 3: there's more than one motherfucker twister. You were like twisters. Wait,

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Speaker 3: why God, there's more than one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm coming for it.

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Speaker 3: Looks good to me. Generally, it could be bad.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear, you'll hear, you'll hear.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy that I didn't see the first Twister because

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Speaker 3: I was a big I was a creton boy.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that either.

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Speaker 4: I like a lot of his stuff, you know, talk

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Speaker 4: about I'm not going to say he like writes women

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Speaker 1: Have jobs rights.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, Well, what's your favorite Crichton?

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Speaker 4: Sadler's a boss, I think. Yeah, it's the Bookers is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, right right, did you read Sphere.

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Speaker 3: Were you a Sphere?

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Speaker 2: No, I tried a timeline. I tried and then watched

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Speaker 2: the movie, which was horrible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they did. They couldn't quite pull off any

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Speaker 3: of the other books as movies. Congo like came next

443
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Speaker 3: after Jurassic Park, and people like this is the one.

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Speaker 3: This is just gonna be like another Jurassic Park. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna be printing money from this guy.

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Speaker 1: Clo Films.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Congo.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. It's so fucking bad.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing the novel I never saw Congo or Sphere,

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Speaker 3: but the novels were as bit as Creighton Head as

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Speaker 3: a criton Head that was like I never saw it,

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Speaker 3: but I was like, oh, so bad, because that was

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Speaker 3: when I like first started getting into like film criticism

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Speaker 3: and being like if somebody was like this isn't good,

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Speaker 3: I was like, must not be worth watching then, right.

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Speaker 1: I think growing up in La like we just just

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Speaker 1: had to consume everything that you saw that night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like Congo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I think Sphere is the best of the books,

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Speaker 3: though I recommend Sphere.

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Speaker 1: We'll take that.

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Speaker 3: Should we take a break and come back and talk

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Speaker 3: talk a little bit about the news if you desire,

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Speaker 3: if you desire, all right, we'll be right back, and

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Speaker 3: we're back. And so, I don't know. There was a

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Speaker 3: lot of conversation around like how Trump was gonna walk

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Speaker 3: away from the assassination attempt, and you know, he's like

469
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Speaker 3: he was going to be changed, he was going to

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Speaker 3: be a unifier, and it seems like some things haven't

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Speaker 3: changed at the very least. No, that is his willingness

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Speaker 3: to grift to make that money, and.

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Speaker 1: He's already ranting, you know, just like fire and brimstone

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Speaker 1: type shit. So the unifying thing, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where from aside from like a talking point.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see. I mean, he's yet to actually give

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Speaker 1: his real speech at the RNC, so we'll see. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the grift on his almost martyredom has begun because now

479
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Speaker 1: one of his companies is selling shitty sneakers with that

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Speaker 1: now famous image of him bloodied and fist pumping, and

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Speaker 1: these limited edition high tops here. I'll share it with

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Speaker 1: the class meg in case you need to see these,

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Speaker 1: because they are they are fantastic. They look like something

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Speaker 1: you'd put together on a word document. Just be like Okay,

485
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Speaker 1: let me drag this, Let me drag.

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Speaker 2: This, or it is generous.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think this is like meat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, it is MS paint and like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's true. It has his like fist, pumpy, bloody face

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Speaker 1: on it with the word words fight, fight, Fight on

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Speaker 1: the soul and I know this is clearly a mock

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Speaker 1: up and not what the original or what the actual

494
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Speaker 1: final products look like will look like. But either way,

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Speaker 1: it looks like shit. But the way they are promoting

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Speaker 1: it is quote, these limited edition high tops featuring Trump's

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Speaker 1: iconic image with his fist raised honor his unwavering determination

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Speaker 1: and bravery. With only five thousand pairs available, each one

499
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Speaker 1: is a true collector's item. Show your support and patriotic

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Speaker 1: pride with these exclusive sneakers capturing it defining moment in history.

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Speaker 3: I think from him officially, are they oh yeah what yeah?

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Speaker 3: You couldn't get away with it? Right? This is there?

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Speaker 4: All?

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Speaker 1: Well, first, I want to say before I get to

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Speaker 1: the origin, they are only two hundred ninety nine dollars steel, right,

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Speaker 1: And yes, thank you Meg, That's what I've been trying

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Speaker 1: to tell Jack before we got on MIC.

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Speaker 2: And admitted edition.

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Speaker 3: The gold ones.

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Speaker 1: You remember the gold ones that he debuted like sneaker

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Speaker 1: con those sold for three ninety nine. So this is

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Speaker 1: a bit of a This is a this is a

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Speaker 1: nice entry point, you know what I mean? Through the

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Speaker 1: door very heavy but no, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: like lead and the metallic materials. I think, so you

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Speaker 1: should probably stop.

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Speaker 2: Heavy is the foot that where's the shoe?

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Speaker 10: Thank as the as they say, wow you are literary

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Speaker 10: ship damn to online, dude, that was so fucking literary.

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Speaker 1: Fuck with that, cole Man. I'm like sidelined and like

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Speaker 1: I really got to step my shit up. But ten

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Speaker 1: random pairs of these five thousand will be signed. But

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. These shoes, which I've called the air

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Speaker 1: Red Flag twos, they are being made by the exact

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Speaker 1: same company that did the gold sneaker. And Trump's like,

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Speaker 1: they're not political, they don't have anything to do with

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Speaker 1: the campaign or whatever. But this company he owns the

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Speaker 1: fucking company that makes them. And like the address if

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Speaker 1: you look for the business is located is like his

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Speaker 1: golf one of his golf courses in Florida.

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Speaker 3: So it's not technically like you shouldn't be doing this.

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Speaker 1: I mean Jack in the Year of Harlower twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: We know not what crime is. Yeah, what is it

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Speaker 1: to even say that.

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Speaker 2: Crimes don't exist anymore? It's just it's a free for all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, only thought crimes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem like bootleg like Avengers shoes, like you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, like children's clothing or children's shoes that have

539
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Speaker 3: just like a screen printed Robert Downey Junior on it,

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Speaker 3: you know, like it, right, because you don't put photographs

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Speaker 3: on shoes as far as like, I can't think of

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Speaker 3: another example of a photograph on shoes other than whole

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Speaker 3: like Avengers sneakers.

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Speaker 1: Say, Jalen Brown, I think had some interesting paintings on

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Speaker 1: his sneakers in the past, right, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: about Yeah, I don't know about direct to garment printing.

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Speaker 1: It looks like like what Homelander from the Boys would wear, like.

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Speaker 3: Once he's fully washed. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

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00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: I need these, like, I need pictures of these out

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Speaker 3: in the wild because I think they're gonna look amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, just like the gold sneakers they spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: they looked like.

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Speaker 2: Shit, what do you mean are they not American maid?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Not even close, not even close for them to turn

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Speaker 1: the kind of profit they want off a three hundred

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Speaker 1: ninety nine dollars sneaker, Like, I'm sure these are being

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Speaker 1: made for like four to five. So do with that

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Speaker 1: information what you will.

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Speaker 3: It didn't just look like you were standing in the

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Speaker 3: briefcase from pulp fiction. He just had the glow of

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Speaker 3: the golden logo. No no, unfortunately not no. All right,

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Speaker 3: So we still don't know much about the motive at

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Speaker 3: this point of the person who the twenty year old

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Speaker 3: Matthew Crooks. No, Matthew Crooks is his dad, right, his

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Speaker 3: Thomas Matthew Crooks. Thomas Matthew Crooks. That's how you know

567
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: three names. Yeah, But we continue to learn little bits

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Speaker 3: about him, like that his dad was like highly targeted,

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Speaker 3: highly indexed by the Trump campaign back in twenty sixteen

570
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Speaker 3: because of he had all the all the factors you

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Speaker 3: look for in a Facebook like data profile. He was

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Speaker 3: like I think number seven of like thousands of people

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Speaker 3: in his town.

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Speaker 1: Like they're order to point ninety nine on a scale

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Speaker 1: of one point zero in terms of like what they

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Speaker 1: figured as like a voter who would be like especially

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Speaker 1: open to targeted messaging around gun rights. Yes, so I

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Speaker 1: mean all that really does is show that like crooks

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Speaker 1: came from a conservative home, but like really nothing else

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Speaker 1: about his motives. But meanwhile both sides continue to point

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Speaker 1: fingers and come up with all kinds of shit. There's

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Speaker 1: like it was Biden pulling strings with the Secret Service

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Speaker 1: to get Trump got or.

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Speaker 3: Trump definitely seems like by the way, like right now,

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Speaker 3: he seems like somebody who's just behind everything, pulling the strings,

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Speaker 3: super confident.

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Speaker 1: Sure sure, sure yeah. Or a lot of liberals are

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Speaker 1: coping by saying like this is Trump had to have

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Speaker 1: staged this to help, you know, really cement his candidacy.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Then other people like this is retaliation from the deep state.

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Speaker 1: Then there was like the Secret Service was trying to

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Speaker 1: make it look like an accident and they was gonna

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Speaker 1: get Jfkate or whatever. Then another person like it's the

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Speaker 1: fact that there were women that exist in the Secret Service.

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Speaker 3: That's that's why.

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Speaker 2: And fun that's clearly the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the DEI bullshit is so on point, like for

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Speaker 1: the right, because everything is DEI now like it's whether

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Speaker 1: that's their way to be like not at this point,

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00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: not really coded racism but you know they're just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say the N word, saw say DEI.

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00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I outwardly hate women. I'll

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Speaker 1: let the policies speak for that, but I will I

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Speaker 1: will summon DEI as a way to cast dispersions on

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Speaker 1: the Secret Service. But like even Eric Trump was on

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Speaker 1: CNN like fully putting his support behind the Secret Service agents.

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Speaker 1: He said, quote, one of the females on the stage,

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Speaker 1: she's with me for three years. I know everything about her.

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Speaker 1: She would take a bullet for me. She would take

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Speaker 1: a bullet for him, as courageous as they come. Same

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Speaker 1: with everybody else who is around him. The head of

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Speaker 1: his detail was on that stage too, So according to

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Speaker 1: Eric Trump, quote the female one is okay.

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Speaker 2: The best way to know that you're an ally to

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Speaker 2: women you call them females.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the females on this stage, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: are you on a men's rights podcast right now? What

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Speaker 1: the fuck are you talking about? And it was also

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Speaker 1: reported that earlier this week that the Secret Service was

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Speaker 1: actually became aware of a plan that the Iranian government

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Speaker 1: had a plot to potentially assassinate Trump said this quote,

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Speaker 1: secret Service learned of the increased threat from this threat stream.

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Speaker 1: The National Security Council directly contacted the Secret Service at

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Speaker 1: a senior level to be absolutely sure they continue to

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Speaker 1: track the latest reporting, and they said as a result

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Speaker 1: of this quote, Secret Service surged resources and assets for

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Speaker 1: the protection of former President Trump. All of this was

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Speaker 1: in advance of Saturday. That means law enforcement was apparently

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Speaker 1: beefing up their presence and had were being extra vigilant.

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Speaker 1: Yet this person was able to climb on the roof

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Speaker 1: of a building that had law enforcement inside of it,

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Speaker 1: just to add insult to injury.

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Speaker 3: So wait, there is law enforcement in the building that.

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Speaker 7: He was on.

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Speaker 3: Yo, what does that sound?

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Speaker 1: It's like squirrels or something. But I think it's also

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Speaker 1: entirely possible that, like the police are not good at

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Speaker 1: their jobs.

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Speaker 2: WHOA. Obviously I don't say it with your whole.

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Speaker 7: Chiest Sorry, I don't know if I can, But maybe

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Speaker 7: I could also be true here because I've seen a

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Speaker 7: lot over the last few years that would suggest they're

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Speaker 7: not the best at preventing crimes.

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Speaker 1: They're usually really good at violating people's rights and personhood

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Speaker 1: or you know, ending their lives tragically. That seems to

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Speaker 1: be something that they have demonstrated high efficiency at. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's not the conversation being had right now.

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Speaker 1: It's either DEI or it was staged. Those are your

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Speaker 1: two options, Democrats and Republicans. I actually see no signs

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Speaker 1: of societal rot here at all.

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Speaker 3: We do not like incompetence as the explanation for a

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Speaker 3: historical event. Generally we will just write the incompetence out,

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Speaker 3: whether it be Hitler oversleeping on D Day and like

655
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Speaker 3: everybody being too scared to wake him up, and that

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Speaker 3: the thing that like helped the Allied forces win D Day,

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Speaker 3: or you know, the version of the jfk assassination, which

658
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Speaker 3: I think is the most reasonable explanation that a secret

659
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: service agent actually fired the third shot that actually struck

660
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Speaker 3: him in the head and killed him by accident. But

661
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: when you raise that possibility to people, they are hostile.

662
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: They're fucking they want you to shut up. Human error. Yeah,

663
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: they don't like that shit at all. I don't know.

664
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Speaker 4: This sounds like a great topic for me to bring

665
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: up this Thanksgiving with my father.

666
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we just don't want to admit that it's

667
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: a bunch of dummies out there.

668
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Speaker 1: What would the response be from your dad if you said,

669
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe they messed up and aren't that good?

670
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: Past the gin?

671
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: All right?

672
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Speaker 3: Well that is my favorite Thanksgiving side, is the gin?

673
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Speaker 1: The gin? Sure? Sure, sure, yeah, all right.

674
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Speaker 3: I do want to just touch on because the reasons

675
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: to replace Joe Biden have not stopped rolling in. There's

676
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: been some high profile moments, obviously in the aftermath of

677
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: an attempted assassination on one of the presidential candidates. He

678
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: had a couple of speeches that he gave. The one

679
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: where he said we saw resolve our differences at the

680
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: battle box and injured and.

681
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Speaker 1: He was seriously injured.

682
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: He was seriously injured, and the differences at the battle

683
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: box and seems to recognize it and then go back

684
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: and say battle box again. But that was pre taped, right,

685
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: That wasn't That wasn't like a live press conference in

686
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: front with an audience. It was like him at his desk.

687
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him at the desk. But I don't know,

688
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know the nature of whether it was

689
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: fully live or pre taped. Either way, he.

690
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: Just couldn't pull it off. He couldn't do the thing.

691
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: There's there's like this interview with Complex magazine where he

692
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: just like can't do it. It's like nineteen minutes. He

693
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: you know, it might seem like, oh, well, he doesn't

694
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: give a shit. He's like with Complex, but like that

695
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: he needs to nail every interview first of all, and

696
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 3: also you know, it's like a young audience who he's

697
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: really struggling with, and he just like can't maintain his

698
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: train of thought. Like there's one part where you know,

699
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: the first question the guy, the first question is like,

700
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: so you're getting up there, man, like a lot of

701
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: people think you're too old. And he I tried to

702
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: transcribe this, but he says, I didn't plan on running

703
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: because in twenty twenty, when Barack asked me to be

704
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: vice president, which was a tremendous honor, I joined him,

705
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: which was a great honor. But after that I became

706
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: professor at the Universe. It's just like the timeline is

707
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: like all fucked up.

708
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: And then he like brought up Charlottesville and you're.

709
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and that like all he had to say

710
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: was like, well, I did want to run, and then

711
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: Charlottesville happened and that's when I decided. But like he's

712
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: just he can't stay on point and eat. Like there

713
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: are multiple times in this interview where this like eighteen

714
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: year old kid, I don't I don't know how old.

715
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 9: Speedy's speedy Speedy Speedy is bailing him out, Like multiple

716
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 9: times he's like okay, So that's later he's asked why

717
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 9: Trump has support of people in the hip hop community,

718
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 9: and like Biden talks about his work on civil rights

719
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 9: in high school, I think, he says, but then like,

720
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 9: can we just play the ending of this, yeah, because

721
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 9: it's just he just shorts out.

722
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: And the number of folks participating didn't slow down because

723
00:36:54,200 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: it didn't reduce. So look, I you know Trump, there

724
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: are some people who've made their mind and they decided.

725
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: He said, oh, never mind. But you know, Trump, what

726
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: is it with Speedy doing interviews where people get like

727
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: the famous oh he's the Ray J indestructible su Yeah,

728
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: He's like, go ahead, Speedy, break them. They're come on,

729
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: I don't care. And now Joe Biden is I here, But.

730
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: You know Trump pause pause pause.

731
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: He did a similar thing at the NAACP convention too.

732
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: It's just not working, Like it's just he's not like

733
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: this is alarming to anybody who's not lying to themselves right.

734
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: Now, anyone who has a pulse.

735
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: So I don't know. So immediately after the assassination attempt

736
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: on Donald Trump, people, we're making this argument that, well

737
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: that this stops the attempt to replace Biden in its tracks,

738
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: like the like they we can't that thing, that idea

739
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: is dead and it doesn't make like there there's no

740
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: argument there, Like the only argument I've seen is that

741
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: Trump is like the attempted assassination is taking up all

742
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: the media attention, but like, we're not asking for you

743
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 3: to make a great TV moment, We're asking you to

744
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: do what is best for the fucking country.

745
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 4: And well, I think it's the same thing of like

746
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: all the dumbs are just stuck and pillaying respectability politics.

747
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: They don't want to they don't want to rock the boat,

748
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: like they don't want to. I don't want to change anything.

749
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but wouldn't when everyone's distracted be a good time

750
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 3: to admit, like to go ahead and do the thing

751
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: that you need to do with this candidate.

752
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: And they're going to seize a good idea, right.

753
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well this is the thing with the d n C, right,

754
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Like they're just so fully controlled by like that donor class,

755
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: and they do a great job, as we've seen over

756
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: the many years, at just outright ignoring public sentiment fully

757
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: and like for some reason, the conversation only got frantic

758
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: until after like the celebrity George Clooney in that New

759
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: York Times breakup op ed was like, Yo, this dude

760
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: is a fucking scale. What are we fucking talking about here?

761
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: And not like it wasn't all the people saying he

762
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: is too old for this shit for like literal years now,

763
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: like you know, like they did everything they could. They

764
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: nuked the primary debate schedule and pretty much forced this

765
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: bad choice on everyone and hardly what I would call

766
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: a you know, like democratic process. Yet we're being like

767
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: beaten to death with this messaging about the fate of

768
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: our democracy. It's really frustrating. And it's the DNC, like

769
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: specifically that is like protecting Biden, and that's why we

770
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: are now hearing talks of like a virtual role call

771
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: to accelerate his nomination right and basically have him be

772
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: the not Aye, like well over a month before the

773
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Speaker 1: actual convention happens. And if that happened, that would effectively

774
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: just make the actual convention meaningless. Like at the end

775
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: of August, the whole point, even though it is very ceremonial,

776
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: it's like to get a sort of you know, it's

777
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: like we're moving out of the primary season and now

778
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: we're into the general election season. Everybody's together, they're united

779
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: around the candidate. But if they're like, sorry, assholes, we

780
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: did this one behind your backs. This is your fucking person.

781
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: Now you get to hear you know, Oprah make a

782
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: speech or something, it's a very different, different, very different vibe.

783
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: And I think again that's sort of how the DNC works.

784
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: So it's like, we don't want anyone, we don't want

785
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: any debate. We're go, don't want to discuss anything. We don't

786
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: want any dissent. Because you also think about the thirty

787
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: six delegates that are the uncommitted delegates in states that

788
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: we're able to have delegates be uncommitted, like in Michigan, Minnesota,

789
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: other states like that, that was that's a big moment

790
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: for those people to really air their grievances about what's

791
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: happening in Gaza and potentially get some kind of concession

792
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: from the administration or potential new administration. But if it's

793
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: all said and done, there's really nothing to be fucking

794
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: worked out at all, and it just becomes like a

795
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: foregone conclusion. And yeah, they just really don't want any

796
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: open descent on the convention floor. And this is just

797
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: sort of part and parcel of what they're doing. And

798
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: now they're just fully just doubling down on this terrible

799
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: fucking hand and demonstrating, you know that the lack of

800
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: awareness that has plagued them.

801
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: I mean they're actively pushing back against some of their

802
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: biggest donors right now, which you know, like that is

803
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: that's very UNDNC is to be like, well, what the

804
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: fuck do you know? Like your donors, Like they're donors

805
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: who are withholding funding from candidates like down you know,

806
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: down ballot, down ballot, local candidates, they're withholding funding from

807
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: them if they don't openly call for Biden this episode,

808
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: like they're like you that we need you to do that.

809
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're getting a you know, outsize

810
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: amount of attention on the people who want him to

811
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: step aside, because that is the more interesting like news angle,

812
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: and therefore it just seems like it's the consensus when

813
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 3: it's a small portion of the consensus. But it does

814
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: seem pretty straightforward. But I don't know how you run him.

815
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: I just don't know how he continues to run the

816
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: country and run for president.

817
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, if like, if the decline was this series

818
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: between twenty twenty and now, right, that's it going to

819
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: look like between now, it doesn't get better even twenty

820
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: twenty six, like the mid terms, and then you're fully

821
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: dealing with like a meme president where people like, dude,

822
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: this guy like the spooky Ghosts from Indiana Jones movie

823
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: in a super like No, it's like not gonna work.

824
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: It's just a and yeah, it's really It really hinders

825
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: any kind of ground swell of support that could occur

826
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: if there was a candidate where at least people are like, well,

827
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: at least that person could formulate a sentence coherently in

828
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: a debate consistently for the next four years.

829
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: Ish. Yeah, I mean Biden has said like his logic

830
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: is that he would only step aside if there was

831
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: a health thing, which buddy, I don't like, but I

832
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 3: guess he needs the doctors who gave him a clean

833
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: bill of health like a few months ago, to come

834
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: back and be like all right, we're fucking around like

835
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: you're you're a mess up there. Or he also said

836
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: if he thought there was no path for him to win,

837
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 3: not if he thought someone else had a better path

838
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: to win. It's just if he thought he had no

839
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: path to win, which is pretty wild. Like, so his

840
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: logic is entirely self centered, Like in that respect, it's

841
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: only the only thing that matters is that he has

842
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: a small chance at winning. They're trying to get us

843
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 3: all on board with think about the collective good, Like

844
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: that's all I'm thinking about, is like what could possibly

845
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 3: stop Donald Trump being a next president? Like that, you know,

846
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: that's what everybody else is thinking about. And he's like,

847
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 3: only only if I can't possibly win, which seems.

848
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just wild. Well, this is the mindset that's

849
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: like so pervasive and dc just in general and politics.

850
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: It's just you have some of these people who are like,

851
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die holding on to power and that's like

852
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: my right, and it only leads us to just again

853
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: nothing inspiring, more of the same and at worst seeing

854
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: this thing unfold in like a really grim way, while

855
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: they continue to be like everything America will end and

856
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: you're like and we're counting on. Okay, okay, wait, as long.

857
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: As they can continue to just bang out the you

858
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 4: need to vote, that's the only way you'll see change

859
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: party line. You know, it's just the assumption that everyone's

860
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 4: going to get in the line because it can't get.

861
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: Worse, right, right, Yeah, it's yeah. Then that they've they've

862
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: done an amazing job at making this all like, I'm

863
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: pretty I need to look at his website, but ago

864
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: there weren't really there wasn't really anything policy wise on

865
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: their campaign website. It was just like issues, which I'm

866
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: also like, come on, man, like where's the policy, Like,

867
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: let's talk about policy rather than like, yeah, we know

868
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: body autonomy is important. What's your fucking plan? We know

869
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is fucking corrupt and completely politicized. What's

870
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: your plan? And it sounds like there he was supposed

871
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: to make an announcement on that about on Monday, actually

872
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: about Supreme Court reforms, but again, the assassination attempt completely

873
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: has sort of derailed the speaking schedule.

874
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: So but they are expecting, like by the time you

875
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: hear this, there might be a plan out. It's supposed

876
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: to be announced fairly soon. He's been working he's been

877
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: in the lab talking to constitutional scholars about about like

878
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: term limits and you know, various Supreme Court reforms. But

879
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: I think it would be pretty tricky to pull off

880
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: based on what I've read to this point.

881
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, what that plan is on Joe Biden dot

882
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: com like under issues like it'll be things like protecting

883
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: and strengthening our democracy, growing the middle class, fighting the

884
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: lower costs for working families. It's more just like and

885
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: it's always juxtaposed with like what the campaign believes and

886
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: then what Trump would do. And it's never thinking like

887
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: substantives like yeah, we need good high paying jobs. Okay,

888
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: talk about how that becomes reality. It's like we we

889
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: we believe in good high paying jobs. And it's like

890
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: but Donald Trump doesn't, Oh okay, give a little bit more.

891
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: Rather than just merely again they've this is like a

892
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: gift on the curse. It is the gift in the

893
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: curse and running against Yeah, it's the gift in the

894
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: curse of running against Donald Trump. As we've seen is

895
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: that the entire DNC strategy is just to merely just

896
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: gesture to the Republicans as their entire platform and be like,

897
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: well that no, and it's just it's completely that well

898
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: has run pretty dry. At this point, I feel like, yeah.

899
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: All right, well let's take a quick break and we'll

900
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 3: come back and we'll talk about Twisters.

901
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 5: Okay, and we're back.

902
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: We're back, and you know, finally we have We're going

903
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: to have resolution to all those pesky unanswered questions left

904
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 3: dangling at the end of nineteen ninety six as Twister,

905
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: there's you know, is he his father? Will will they won't? They?

906
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: Will he kiss the Twister? We'll see, we don't know,

907
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: a lot of tension.

908
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, So we're seeing the release of the blated sequel, Twisters, which,

909
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: as mentioned, I was surprised to learn as directed by

910
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: Lee Isaac Chung, the guy who made the acclaimed family

911
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: drama Manari a few years ago.

912
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Did you guys see Manari? I actually saw the like you.

913
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: It was like, I saw the first forty minutes of it.

914
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: I think something with the baby, and I was like,

915
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting back to it.

916
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I watched the whole thing.

917
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 4: I haven't seen the original Twister, but I've certainly seen Manari.

918
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: Well, between the three of us, were covered. We're covered.

919
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: We're covered.

920
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see Cinema.

921
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, enjoy your little funny tornado movies. Okay, we

922
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: like Christie Cinema. I get it.

923
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: But reviews seem to be mixed. Better than I was expecting.

924
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: I guess. Before I knew that le Isaac Chung was

925
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: the director, I was like, well, this is going to

926
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 3: be a turkey right, like this will this won't be

927
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: a good movie by any means. The original was not

928
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: a good movie, and this is a sequel that came

929
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 3: out twenty some years later. Those don't usually work out.

930
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: The only way it could be more I could be

931
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: more skeptical, as if it was a prequel somehow, like

932
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: Twister minus one. It's about the first Twister that ever happened. Yeah,

933
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 3: dirt Devil, Yeah right, right exactly, that's right, Twister. But

934
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: the reviews seem to be mixed, with critics noting that

935
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: the tornado based thriller prioritizes and this is gonna surprise

936
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: you guess spectacle over plot. Wait have they seen the

937
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: first one? Right?

938
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: It was a movie about just running away from a tornado.

939
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: That's all the movie is. And it's made to look

940
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: like it's basically a bunch of chase scenes of the tornado.

941
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, I get it.

942
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: There's no plot tornado chase, tornado, fuck the movie.

943
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: Running from the running from the tornado too is what

944
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: essentially with this movie I think will be. But we'll see.

945
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm about to go see it.

946
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: And they're like, they don't run from the tornado. That

947
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: that's what's different about these folks the tornado. Other people

948
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: they run from this guy he ride tornadom Anyways, the

949
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: one detail that some people are pointing out is that

950
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: none of the characters ever utter the words climate chair.

951
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 3: This being a weather based action spectacle, you might assume

952
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: that because in the real world tornadoes are becoming more

953
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: widespread and more clustered, like they're more twisters scenarios where

954
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 3: multiple tornadoes are happening around the same place and time,

955
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: that it would be kind of right or even like

956
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 3: weird not to mention it because it seems like such

957
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: a tie in. But Chung has said that he doesn't

958
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: think films should be message oriented, which I don't like.

959
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: What it's a choice, How do you I mean inherently

960
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: there is a message in some level.

961
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: There shouldn't be messages or meaning.

962
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 10: Even long legs, right, did Minari have a message to

963
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 10: you as you watch that.

964
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, no, maybe I'm just like it.

965
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 3: Was in a different language. So I was just.

966
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: Seriously, I mean, as people who saw it, like, I

967
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: imagine there is he's getting at something in that film.

968
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, like I know. So he says he

969
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: claims his film is a reflection of the world, and

970
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 3: pointed to one scene in which a local farmer complains

971
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: that storms are more frequent, making the price of wheat

972
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: more expensive. So like it seems like he's like, this

973
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: is a reflection of the world. This is how people

974
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: would talk about this. They would not come out and

975
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: have a conversation about climate change. Maybe they wouldn't. They

976
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't have an explicit political message embedded in their conversations,

977
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 3: which I don't know if that's true necessary, but I would.

978
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: Totally disagree with it.

979
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 4: There was an interview on NPR a couple of months

980
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: ago with a farmer I think from like an Oklahoma

981
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 4: who was talking about, you know, things that we're worried

982
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: about is you know, there's we're experiencing more dry spells,

983
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 4: hotter summers.

984
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: But he's like, I would never vote for a Democrat,

985
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't believe in climate change.

986
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: So it's I don't think it's like off topic, but

987
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 4: you know, to your point, like a film's the opportunity

988
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 4: to do it.

989
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I think part of me just knowing

990
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: what the original was like and the reason why I'm

991
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: even attracted by the proposition of a sequel is that

992
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: it's there is no message. You go to see a

993
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: big ass finger of God as they call it, like

994
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: F five tornado touchdown and they run two or from it,

995
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: and I don't know, like part of me is like

996
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: I think maybe because the existential dread of climate change

997
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: is so pervasive that it's like, man, just even in

998
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: this one, let me just watch the fucking twister blow

999
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: truck away man and a cow flies up into the thing,

1000
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: and like let'sten talk about climate change and like let's

1001
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: just let it be funny.

1002
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not watching Jaws to be told that, like

1003
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 4: the water, the ocean waters overheating and are driven close.

1004
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 3: I have that exact thought that, like, if you know,

1005
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: Jaws had like a moment where they were like and

1006
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: this is actually because of nuclear proliferation, I might be like, well,

1007
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: that right feels a little weird. But at the same time, like,

1008
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, it seems you have tornado scientists, you

1009
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: have like weather experts, and do we really.

1010
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 4: Think that like meteorologists are like weather experts. This is

1011
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: my hot take, Like meteorolog or meteorologists real.

1012
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 3: Do they even exist?

1013
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: Can they predict anything at all?

1014
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 9: Like?

1015
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: What is the science there?

1016
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1017
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like people who work in the

1018
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 1: atmospheric sciences certainly, yeah, but like the weather person maybe

1019
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: a bit of a different bar scientifically to clear for sure.

1020
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: But I mean like there's also like like obviously yes,

1021
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: they're like the logic of climate change would suggest that

1022
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: they are linked, but even the people who are studying

1023
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: this or like there, they still haven't found what they

1024
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: would consider like a definitive link. And I'm not defending

1025
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: climate change or any like that, but I think just

1026
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: part of me too is just like I don't think

1027
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: Twister might is the movie to fucking talk about that,

1028
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: because it's so stupid to begin with that. I think

1029
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: they would just go in one ear and one out

1030
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: the other.

1031
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1032
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again it's I think it's I think

1033
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: would all come out in the wash either way.

1034
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I think, like I'm sure there's

1035
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: like pressure from on high from you know, producers and

1036
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: studios being like, don't mention that because it's gonna first

1037
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 3: of all, we as billionaires don't believe in climate change,

1038
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 3: and second of all, it's just gonna alienate some of

1039
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: your view in public. But it's just across the board.

1040
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: Like a recent report found that two point eight percent

1041
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 3: of movies and TV shows from twenty sixteen to twenty

1042
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 3: twenty include any mention of climate change. The word dog

1043
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: was mentioned almost thirteen times as often as all thirty

1044
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: six climate keywords put together. So like just pulling a

1045
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 3: random word a random.

1046
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: Subject, and you feel like that's a fair comparison, like

1047
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 4: pull in like other policy issue.

1048
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: Everybody loves dogs.

1049
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, yeah, I think And also like very

1050
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: American too, like yeah, we know this is America. People

1051
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: care more about dogs than fucking people here right, let

1052
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: alone their own.

1053
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: Earth right down here in Texas, than I do.

1054
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: Right exactly, So I mean, but it does show like

1055
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: just generally too, like it most most films are really

1056
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: not wanting to confront I mean, most films don't confront

1057
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: a lot of serious issues in the way that arises

1058
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: to the mainstream, but are like you know, getting to

1059
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: like the top, like the tent pole type movies. But yeah,

1060
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: I think there there's certainly a way to have that

1061
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: in media that isn't being like that isn't going to

1062
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 1: make someone feel I mean like there are always people

1063
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: are gonna feel like, oh, you're preaching to me merely

1064
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: because you acknowledged the changing nature of like our client,

1065
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: like our Earth death. But you know, fuck those people.

1066
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: Just if it's relevant to your story, you can still

1067
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, feature that kind of concept in it without

1068
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: it being anathema to people who are you know, don't

1069
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: want to hear stuff like that.

1070
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean the movies that do reference climate

1071
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 3: change tend to be like pretty apocalyptic in nature, like

1072
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 3: The Day After Tomorrow and stuff like that, So you

1073
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 3: know that that's also probably leads people to down toward

1074
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: a direction of thinking that it's all hopeless and or unbelievable.

1075
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Like I remember

1076
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: going to see The Day After Tomorrow in the theater

1077
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: and be like, holy shit, dude, you see the ice

1078
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: just fucking like froze that wolf like in as it

1079
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: was running. That's fucked up. And in my mind, I'm

1080
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: never like Wow, this could be the Like, for whatever reason,

1081
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: Water World fucked me up more than The Day After

1082
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: Tomorrow and that movie literally doesn't mention climate change at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but in my mind conceptual, I was like, what if

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Speaker 1: they all melt? It's all water Now I didn't know that.

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Speaker 4: My brain went right to Interstellar just because of the

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Speaker 4: whole you know, dust bowl intro. Yeah, but that's I mean,

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Speaker 4: equally as unbelievable as you know, time nonlinear.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about the science. There's no

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Speaker 2: way I can figure that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, okay, I think I think those are

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Speaker 3: both good examples of like how like a very specific thing,

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Speaker 3: like you just take one of the things that could

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Speaker 3: happen and focus on that. Like, I agree, those are

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Speaker 3: the two examples that really stuck with me in the

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Speaker 3: Day after Tomorrow. Seems like the dumbest possible approach, where

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Speaker 3: it's just like ice laser is gonna come from space

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Speaker 3: and freeze people where they stand, right, But.

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Speaker 1: Like I think of it, like how Squid Game was

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Speaker 1: such an effective critique of capitalism because they're not actually

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Speaker 1: mentioning it, but they're they're kind of setting it up

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Speaker 1: like in this metaphor and like the stressors that like

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Speaker 1: affect the character's lives where people immediately go like, oh yeah, dude, exactly, man,

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Speaker 1: it's like fucked up. And some people like arrive at

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Speaker 1: WHOA like they have that moment.

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Speaker 3: Because it's packaged, and some of us are just like

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Speaker 3: that looks sick as fuck. I wish I could play

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Speaker 3: that game.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a great example because we took something that

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Speaker 4: was meant to be, you know, a conversation about capitalism,

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Speaker 4: and turned it into a real thing that real people

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Speaker 4: were competing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Last month, a environmental organization released a Bechdel Test esque

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Speaker 3: climate reality check, which evaluates whether a climate change exists

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Speaker 3: in the universe of a project and b if a

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Speaker 3: character knows that it exists. So it's like you can

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Speaker 3: tell that a character is aware of the existence of

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Speaker 3: climate change. And the numbers weren't great. Of the top

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Speaker 3: twenty box office earners between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: only four past this test. One of them was Venom

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Speaker 3: and another one was Fast and Furious Presents Hobbs and Shaw.

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Speaker 1: That's like, but then like when for like climate research

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Speaker 1: and be like and these are the movies that did

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Speaker 1: well and you're like, man, nobody took that away from

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Speaker 1: watching Fast and Furious like Hobbs, I said, Thomas Hobbs,

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Speaker 1: Hobbs and Shaw like there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, I didn't see it,

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Speaker 3: but maybe that's maybe our future climate scientists are going

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Speaker 3: to be radicalized by Fast and Furious present presents Hobbs

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Speaker 3: and Shaw more so than Greta Thunberg.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean, like.

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Speaker 4: The chemistry between Venom and Eddie Brock is a lot

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Speaker 4: stronger than you know, Eddie Brock and climate change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. I'm just thinking, like I feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for for movies that would deal with something like this,

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Speaker 1: like you kind of have to you really have to

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Speaker 1: package it in a way that people don't like connect

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Speaker 1: to the humanity of it first and and they can

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Speaker 1: actually then connect the dots after the fact. I think

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Speaker 1: for a film to really be impactful in that way

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Speaker 1: for talking about something like climate change, are like how

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Speaker 1: some of the best movies I like grapple like with racism.

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Speaker 1: It's just like it's inherently built into the film where

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Speaker 1: you kind of begin to understand the context in which

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Speaker 1: the characters are operating without it being like Racism, the

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Speaker 1: movie climate Change, the movie Capitalism, the movie You can

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Speaker 1: still get those like really complex sort of ideas out

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Speaker 1: in a way that connects, I think, without it having

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Speaker 1: to be sort of front and center or not like

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Speaker 1: front and center, but sort of sort of like so

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Speaker 1: aggressively put forward and like how the characters are talking

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Speaker 1: or whatever. But hey, I don't I'm not. I'm not

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Speaker 1: also a person Like if I saw Twisters and they're like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: climate change is sucking up the planet, I'd like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: fuck yeah, and then I would continue to nervously drink

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Speaker 1: my diet coke in one sip because I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to do with all the dread I'm feeling.

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Speaker 3: Just watch me Shotgun this shit, the other films, the

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Speaker 3: other Blockbusters, Aquaman and Jurassic World, Dominion. So miss Pratt,

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Speaker 3: you know he's doing is He's doing the work. So

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Speaker 3: he's doing a work that's right. Well, Meg, such a

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Speaker 3: pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 3: Follow you all that good stuff?

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Speaker 2: For sure?

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Speaker 4: You can find me on Twitter at Men Write Women

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Speaker 4: and on Instagram at meg Vandriska. And my book, A

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Speaker 4: Tale of Two Titties is out July twenty third, wherever

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Speaker 4: you want to pick up your book, your local indie, Amazon,

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Speaker 4: Barnes and Noble gets there for you.

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Speaker 3: Amazing, And is there a work of media that you've

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Speaker 3: been enjoying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a tweet.

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Speaker 4: I just saw Long Legs, like right when it came

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Speaker 4: out and right after it, I'd see in you know

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Speaker 4: Nick Cage saying that he was so inspired by watching

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Speaker 4: his mom put on Noxema every morning that it inspired

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Speaker 4: his makeup for Long Legs. So it's found a tweet

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Speaker 4: of some kid like heavily upplying, you know, shaving cream

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Speaker 4: to their face and serving it as inspo for long Legs.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's great, am Noma, I uh wore. There

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Speaker 3: are some I've I've talked before about the moisturizing mask

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Speaker 3: that my wife wears, all facial mash Korean skin facial masks,

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Speaker 3: and just how good a horror movie mask it would.

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Speaker 1: Make, Like if it dried onto arcas goopy also looks

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Speaker 1: pretty menty if Karen products.

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Speaker 4: In general or like like horror movie ask you know

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Speaker 4: the ones that dry clear and you can peel it off, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: peel it off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all it's all terror Miles. Where can people

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Speaker 3: find you? Is their work media you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: Yeah at Twitter or Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 1: Find Jack and I on the basketball podcast Miles and

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Speaker 1: Jack Got Mad Boosties. Find me talking ninety day on

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Speaker 1: four to twenty Day Fiance. Let's see a couple of

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Speaker 1: tweets I like. First one is from friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: CJ Toldano at CJ Toledano tweeted, Biden should respond by

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Speaker 1: staging a chase down block in a pickup basketball game.

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Speaker 1: Would be lebron esque and may help a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Another one I like is from Tabitha at the Taller

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Speaker 1: Weft tweeted, Hey, We're all going to the brewery for

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Speaker 1: Hecking Doggo trivia night. It's in a renovated factory with

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Speaker 1: no sound absorption and you can play Giant Jenga. The

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Speaker 1: food comes out of a window that says send nudes

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Speaker 1: in giant neon letters. There are one hundred men named Greg.

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Speaker 8: Here.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a place is always just like I'm thinking of.

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Speaker 1: This might be the one in downtown, or probably every

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Speaker 1: brewery in a major city has this exact vibe for

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Speaker 1: some reason.

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Speaker 2: It's on Austin six straight past fight all the.

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Speaker 1: Time, right right right, Yeah, Giant Jenga and Brick Everywhere

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Speaker 1: is pretty much like the the actual things you need

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Speaker 1: to be called a brewery in twenty twenty four, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore.

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Speaker 3: Brian tweet I've been enjoying lesbian Mothman tweeted. Dislike seeing

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Speaker 3: adult twins in public. Feels like they're going to ask

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Speaker 3: me a riddle, and I think, yeah, I think we

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Speaker 3: can all go with that a little bit. You can

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Speaker 3: find us on Twitter at daily Zeikeeist. We're at the

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Speaker 3: Daily zeike Gist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan

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Speaker 3: page on a website daily zeikeuist dot com where we

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Speaker 3: post our episodes and our footnotes when we look off

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Speaker 3: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 3: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 3: what song do you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 1: Another track from the band Pond, which is again like

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Speaker 1: an offshoot of Tame and Paula. Like many of the

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Speaker 1: members of Pond have played in Tame and Paula and

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Speaker 1: vice versa. So if you like Tame and Paula, you

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Speaker 1: like this. The track is called Black Lung and it's

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Speaker 1: just got like big big guitars and just a nice track,

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Speaker 1: just a nice.

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Speaker 3: Track, big crounchy guitar.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, you like that big distorted guitar man with

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Speaker 1: that chorus on there. But yeah, this is a great one,

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Speaker 1: Black Long by Pond.

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Speaker 3: All right, We will link off to that in the

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Speaker 3: footnotes the day. These guys are the production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: For more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: app podcaster Where am I a fine podcaster? Give it

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Speaker 3: away for free? That's gonna do it for us this morning.

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Speaker 3: We are back this afternoon to tell you what is

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Speaker 3: trending and we will talk to you all then.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye