1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and this is the top of our number 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: two and Stomp the Fantasy Football Focus and Matt Yeah, 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: let people down again back to back weeks here. Now, 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: I will say this, I played my own lineup this week. 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: I used a couple of the guys that we had 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: in our lineup. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: That was kind of your building your foundation. 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: And not so much my foundation. I'm like, yeah, I 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: like that play. I like that play, and I went 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: with some other guys. But Kyler Murray yuck. Yeah. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: I thought he was in for a yuck, huge game. 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: And Cardinals offense in general not real impressive. 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: No, Naujee Harris didn't have the game that we thought 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: he was gonna have. 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: Part. Receiving helped a little bit, but yeah, not a 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: lot of productions. 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: I'll shore Kyler Murray. Yeah, well so you got that 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: going for you, cam Akers yuck. 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: Brutal. 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: They're run games really bad, right, they don't throw them 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: the football. 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 3: Then they don't throw the football. Yeah, too big a deal. 27 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior was okay apparently though a lot of 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: people agreed with us on Naugey Harris. I might add 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: he ate a forty four point five percent. 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: It's a lot. 31 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: That's a high ownership there. 32 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: Colts didn't get run all over. I give him credit out. 33 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: George Pickens was a good call. He ended up with 34 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: the twenty point three points. You know that helped uh 35 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: Darnell Mooney three for fifty six. So he didn't kill us, 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: but he didn't get us. 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: He was cheap and probably about worth of money. But 38 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: that's not great. We don't get any value out of it. 39 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Rock Bowers yuck, Yeah, real yuck yuck. 40 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: That one shocked me. And you know, stacking's great, and 41 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: I understand that they're the people that do this for 42 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: a living. They're big on stacking. But if it doesn't work, 43 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: you're doomed. I mean the Keller Murray Harrison thing, Yeah. 44 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: Just kills you. Brian Robin, good call, twenty good point three. 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: We probably should have gone heavy on the Washington side 46 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: of this whole thing. 47 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: Now, they had a lot of rushing yards. He's catching 48 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: the ball here and there. Eckler's out, you know, so 49 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: it's a good rock. 50 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: They blew the Cardinals out, blew them out. 51 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: It wasn't even close. 52 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the Texas defense when only got two 53 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 2: points out of them at home against Jacksonville. 54 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: Again, don't underestimate a desperate NFL team. I mean, I 55 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: think the Colts kind of fit that narrative a little bit. 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: Jacksonville absolutely did. They didn't win Carolina with you know, 57 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: the new quarterback Dalton Dalton a week ago. These teams 58 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: that are bad are going to put everything into it 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: and not the other team doesn't. But there is a 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: level they don't want to be. 61 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: They don't want to be thinking of where they're going 62 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: on vacation when November rolls around, especially if you had 63 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: aspirations to be a good team when the season started. 64 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: Jackson was a perfect example, like are they a good team? 65 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: No? 66 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: But they gave everything and almost battled a good team. 67 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: You know. Uh, here's the lineup. I started the finished 68 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: in the money c J. Stroud twenty six and a 69 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: half points, Zach Moss seventeen point eight points. 70 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: Okay, I did. 71 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Start Nauji Harris. He had fifty five percent ownership in 72 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: this league. Wow. So everybody was on Naujy Harris, Marvin 73 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: Harrison fifteen point five, Nico Collins thirty. There was the 74 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: stat thirty six point one, uh sixty five percent ownership, 75 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: though the thing was though only three point five percent. 76 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: People started C J. 77 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: Stroud Huh okay, So I. 78 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: Doubled up on that and you really hit that hard up. 79 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, definite work out. 80 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: Well, I did start Mooney, I started, and we initially 81 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: had this guy in our lineup, and then we changed it. 82 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: We had Pat Firemouth, Yeah we did. 83 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: If you remember then we were a little too Steeler 84 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: heavy and we pulled him out and paid up for Boers. 85 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: Sixteen point seven points. If we had if we just 86 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: stuck with Firemouth, we finished in the money. 87 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: Makes sense and we'd have been better off, and we 88 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: had we. 89 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: Would have had more money to spend somewhere else. I 90 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: did go with cam Akers, yeah, and the Texas defense 91 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: as well, so I had some but Stroud, the Stroud 92 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: Nico Collins stack was huge, a big, a good one. 93 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: So if we were redrafting right now, how many receivers 94 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: do you take over Nico? 95 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: Not many? 96 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: Not many? 97 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: I mean his stock keeps going with the injury now, 98 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: in uh with the Chiefs, right right? Rice, Rice being 99 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: out of the equation, like there aren't many like. 100 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: I don't have Nico than Tyreek. Yeah yeah, I mean 101 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: so he's really really valuable. 102 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely looking at this week's top performers, so I at 103 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: least have the money for us. We didn't lose money 104 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: this week because I want online so that that's that's 105 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: why I do two of them just. 106 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: In case, holding up my end of the bargain. 107 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to do better. 108 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 109 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: So we had four three hundred yard passers this week 110 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: in the league, Okay, Jordan Love three eighty nine, four touchdowns, 111 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: three interceptions. It started rough, Yeah, it took him a 112 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: little while to warm up to it, but he brought 113 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: him back. They had a chance to win that game. 114 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean they were not an easy team 115 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: to come back. Hardly practiced all week, didn't play before that, 116 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: and then they started to get together and you know, 117 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: Reid's emerging as their number one. Watson got hurt. I 118 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't be worried about packer stuff. 119 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: No, And I think from here on out you can 120 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: start love and feel good. 121 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: Very good about it. Yeah, probably a top ten guy. 122 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield three forty seven and two touchdowns against that 123 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: Philadelphia defense blew them out. 124 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: They blew him out, and Mayfield's playing really well. I 125 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: don't think it's fluky. It's two years in a row 126 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: now that he's playing above average quarterback play. 127 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: Stroud had three forty five and two touchdowns. 128 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: He's definitely not any of their problem. 129 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: And then Justin Fields three twelve and a touchdown, also 130 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: ran for two scores. Yeah, so big week from him. 131 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: Fifty yards rushing too. 132 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: I had him and. 133 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: Richardson in the league, and who am I gonna play? 134 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: And I picked the right guy. 135 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I have Love and Fields nice. When Love 136 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: got hurt, I picked Fields up off of our wave 137 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: are where I makes sense. I'm gonna ride this out 138 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: as long as I can and hopefully love gets back. 139 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: And if chance Fields gets benched, then you're still fine. 140 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 2: I still have love, right, So that works. Timelines brock 141 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: Purdy to eighty eight and a touchdown. They blew Blue 142 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: New England. They did. Defense is not as good as 143 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: people think. 144 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: No, and the offense is horrible and set just gets 145 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 3: beat up. 146 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: Uh. Daniel Jones just missed to eighty one in that game. 147 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: Sam Donald irrelevant though, Yeah, goes to wandel and neighbors. 148 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: But he runs Sam Donald two seventy five and three touchdowns. 149 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: That's that's kind of leasing the touchdowns every week. If 150 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: you got Justin Jefferson, you're loving that Donald or. 151 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: Something like this. Absolutely, Hawkinson might be back, Addison's back, They're. 152 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: In good shape. Then there's a big drop off after that. 153 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: The next closest guy was Mahomes with two forty five 154 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: in a touchdown. Again, the passing numbers just aren't there 155 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: in the league this year. 156 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: Did you ever consider not playing Mahomes? 157 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: You almost were reaching Rice, You're gonna play it, But yeah, 158 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: he's not fantasy wise or real world has not been 159 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: great right now. Yeah, Unfortunately for me this week, Matt, 160 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: looking at the leading rushers, there were five one hundred 161 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: yard rushing games. I got Derrick Henry this week in 162 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: our league. Ooh, I was up twenty seven points, twenty 163 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: seven going into last night's game. He had Derrick Henry. 164 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: He is well in tonight's games he is Derrick Henry 165 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: and Jamison Williams. I had to pull Chris o Lave 166 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: out of the lineup because I didn't trust it and 167 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: started Jackson Smith and jig But but I'm up twenty seven points. 168 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: You're thinking Williams and Smith and Jigbo more or less 169 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: cancer each other. 170 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: I'll probably come out a little bit on the better 171 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: end of that. 172 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: Just don't get more than twenty seven points. Henry, and 173 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm feeling kind of comfortable. 174 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: And he goes eighty seven yards untouched on the first play. 175 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: Of the game and finds the enzone a couple times. 176 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're throwing in balls. Yeah, short, short passing touchdowns 177 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: to Derrick Henry. 178 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: How many backs would you take over him right now? 179 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: I wouldn't take Breece, No, Breess. Hall's kind of a problem. 180 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: I don't think i'd take Bijeon. You're not taking McCaffrey. 181 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: Definitely taking McCaffrey. I mean it's I'm taking Saquan over him. Yeah, 182 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: that's about it. But it's drying up pretty quick. 183 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he just killed me last night. 184 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, killed me. 185 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: Now I'm down seventeen points going into this game. I 186 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: need Jackson Smith. 187 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: And Jay gossible, but he might need like two touchdowns. 188 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: He needs to score twice. Yeah, yeah, which is possible 189 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: because Detroit's slot has been an issue this year. You 190 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: just need Jmo not to do anything in a nice, 191 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: high scoring game. Yeah, but it's where it runs the 192 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: ball and Seattle throws it. That's what I need. 193 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: That's what you name. 194 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: Yes, Jordan Mason twenty four for one twenty three in 195 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: a touchdown. This is the week we didn't start Jordan 196 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: Mason on our fantasy team and he goes or our dfs. 197 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: He's pretty consistent all in all. 198 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: Though, James Connor eighteen for one oh four in a touchdown. 199 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: They never throwed the back though, Yeah, I think that's 200 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: just one thing of note. 201 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: They did not throw the backs. And then the Cuba 202 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: Hubbard had eighteen for one oh four in a touchdown 203 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: at that Cincinnati defense. 204 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: Is I'm in on Cuba? Yeah, Brooks is looming. Who 205 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: cares about that jump off that bridge when you come 206 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: to it. 207 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 2: But the Carolina offense doesn't pay football in a year, right, 208 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: you know they're gonna bring back slow Yeah, you know, 209 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: but Juba ride him and ride him and start him. 210 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: And then Brian Robinson was the fifth with twenty one 211 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: for one oh one. 212 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: In a touchdown. So starting to become a believer too. 213 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: Kyraen Williams just missed with nineteen for ninety four in 214 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: a touchdown against the Bears. 215 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's rams have some problems. 216 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift on the other side of that, sixteen for 217 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: ninety three in a touchdown. I think he caught like 218 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: five balls. 219 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they ran the ball well for the first 220 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 3: time all year and actually dedicate himself to it. I 221 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 3: don't know if I'm buying it yet. 222 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 2: They ran them all so poorly before this week. Aaron 223 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: Jones twenty two for ninety three in his big revenge game. 224 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: That's been a success all year. 225 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 2: I mean, he's another part of that really good Viking 226 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: offense and tank. Bigsby had seven for ninety he. 227 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: Had like a seventy yard or he broke free. 228 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was fifty eight, but on his other 229 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: six carries he still had thirty two yards. 230 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 3: And at EN's not a full time player now, and 231 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: that's the thing. They want Bigsby to get involved, so 232 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: he should be in every league. I don't know that 233 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: I'd just start them all sudden. 234 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, just looking here. Chase Brown got fifteen for eighty 235 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: this week, and this was the first time as a 236 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: true fifty to fifty split. I don't know how they 237 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: did situation. He scored two touchdowns. 238 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he looks like he's got a little more juice. 239 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: But it looks like Moss is the receiving back, right. 240 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 3: I don't know what to think of it, but I 241 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: think they didn't get fifty to fifty. Yeah, if it's 242 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: a good offense, you can use both. 243 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: Javonte Williams showed some signs of life with sixteen for 244 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: seventy seven in that game against the Jets, and. 245 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: In typical Broncos fashion, he's running a lot of routes 246 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: and catching balls. 247 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: Down too, So that's a good sign for Ady. Got 248 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: hurt right away, he did, Yeah, and he was starting 249 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: to two weeks ago. 250 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: He was slash. 251 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: In fact, I think they had to fly him back separately. 252 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: It was a back injury. Yeah, he had to fly 253 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: back commercial. Uh Kareem Hunt had fourteen for sixty nine. 254 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: So I started steel in one of my leagues. He 255 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: fumbles right off the bat and then you never heard 256 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: fro him again. That happens to those guys, no pedigree whatsoever. 257 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: You know, this is how good It's going to be 258 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: a huge waiver for work to pick up. You know, 259 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: this is. 260 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: How good it was for Washington. Jeremy McNichols had eight 261 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: carries for sixty eight yards and two touchdowns. No, nobody 262 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: had him on their fantasy rush. Those are meaningless points, and. 263 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be too excited to go get him either. 264 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, Chila will be back and Jeremy McNichols 265 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: will follow. Yeah, is that Christie's. 266 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: Brother could be, But that offense is doing amazing things. 267 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 3: They punted once yesterday. 268 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Alexander Madison had five for sixty against the Browns defense. 269 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: The Brown's defense, it was one hundred and fifty rushing 270 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: yards yesterday. 271 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: He won of the worst rushing attacks. 272 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, here I saw this that today going into that game. Yeah, 273 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: I think I think they gave up one hundred and 274 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: fifty two rushing yards to the Raiders. The Raiders didn't 275 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: have one hundred and fifty two rushing yards in their 276 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: first three games. 277 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: That doesn'surprise me. It was the worst rushing attack in 278 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: the whole league. Yeah, I'm about a big Madison fan, 279 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: but he might be better than the mere White. 280 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: He might be. 281 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: It might be definitely woricing. 282 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were right on with the Tyler Algierre had 283 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 2: eight for sixty. We talked about it last week on 284 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: Bijeon cropped up on the injury record. I'm like, I bet, 285 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: don't be surprised if Algier ends up with more carries 286 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: than him, which I think he did its eight to seven. 287 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: Bijean was the receiving back. Sure, but Algaierre is good. 288 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: He's good, that's the thing. Arthur Smith doesn't know what 289 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: he's doing, isn't well. He's got a good player. Give 290 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: him the ball. 291 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, cam Akers thirteen for fifty three. They can't get 292 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: the other guys back soon. 293 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: Enough, and they haven't run the ball well all year 294 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: either or last year. I'm sure Mixing is going to 295 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: be back sooner or later too. 296 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,359 Speaker 2: Trey Benson got nine for fifty yesterday. 297 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: Did Yeah, I didn't even notice, But that's intriguing. We 298 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: know Connor's injury history. 299 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: And Bucky Irving he got ten carries and Rashab White 300 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: got ten carries. They both finished with forty nine yards, 301 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: but Irving got the touchdown run. Yeah. I think he's 302 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: slowly stealing the job. Yeah, he's a better running back. 303 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 3: He's a better running back. 304 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Looking at the receivers this week again, only five 305 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: one hundred yard receivers, passing yards are down, all those, 306 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: all these the draft receiver early because there's team this year, right, right, 307 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: It's not been the case. 308 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: This year, no, although the backs haven't been great. Either 309 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: you drafted or. 310 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah you almost. It's almost a crapshoot this year from 311 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: coming out of if you were in a redraft league, 312 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: like you had to get pretty lucky. 313 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're pretty lucky. Yeah. 314 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Uh So Nico Collins twelve for one to fifty one 315 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: in a touchdown, that's legit. 316 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: I mean, a big time guy. 317 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: Jayden Reids seven for one thirty nine in the touchdow. 318 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: I think he's emerging as the one. That's pretty clear, 319 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: especially if if Watson's gonna miss time, which I think 320 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: he will. 321 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors had twelve for one to fifteen but didn't. 322 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: Score, but you're thrilled with them. I mean, targets are monsters. 323 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: Uh Pickings seven for one thirteen but didn't score, dropped 324 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: one in the end zone. 325 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: But anyone could have seen that coming. I mean, that's 326 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: going to be more the norm for fantasy than his 327 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: early stuff. 328 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: And then Michael Pittman six for one thirteen but didn't score. 329 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: If Laco's quarterback Pittman wore get him back on the sudden. 330 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: Now he's never been his fault. No, he's back to 331 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: being a relevant guy. Yeah, ceedee lamb. Who the Steelers 332 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: will see this week? Seven for ninety eight in a touchdown, 333 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: A long one. Mike Evans had eight for ninety four 334 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: in a touchdown. Travis Kelsey sighting seven for eighty nine. 335 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: That's gonna come. That's gonna be back now, it's gonna 336 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: be she rice out. They run the same routes. I 337 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: just don't know that he can withstand it for the 338 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: rest of the season, you know, I can the rigors 339 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: of this of the season be a problem for Kelsey, 340 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: But he's gonna be called upon much more now. Juwan 341 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: Jennings didn't have the week that he did last week, 342 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: but he did catch three for eighty eight. 343 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: And Taysom Hill got hurt. Yeah. I mean, I know 344 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: that they're not direct replacements, but they're. 345 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: Both Jawan Jennings with the forty nine. 346 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: Oh I was thinking the other the tight end. Okay, yeah, yeah, 347 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm still not hind in Jennings. 348 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: Chris Olave after cropping up on the injury report, and 349 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: getting pulled out of my line up at eight for 350 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: eighty seven. That would have put me up like half 351 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: a point in my league going into tonight. 352 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: And I think he's a wide receiver to all day long. 353 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Brian Thomas Junior at six for eighty six in 354 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: a touchdown. 355 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: Is he startable? 356 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: Now? 357 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: There was some beech stuff. 358 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: Too that they trust necessarily. Yeah, Lawrence wasn't great again. 359 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: Here's a name for you, olamade Zach Hayas had six 360 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: for eighty five in that game from Washington. 361 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: They need people, but I'm not there yet. 362 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not there yet either. Justin Jefferson six for 363 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: eighty five and a touchdown. Jamar Chase three for eighty 364 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: five and a touchdown. Not a big, big game for. 365 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: Him, but hiremendous play. 366 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: Raschichia heat at eight for eighty three. That's not a Rahi, 367 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: that's not his kind of game. No, he's I would 368 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: start him every week in fantasy. Yeah, I mean he's 369 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: gonna do that in between getting the big ones. He's 370 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: definitely fantasy relevant. Deontay Johnson did it again this week, 371 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: seven for eighty three and a touchdown. 372 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: And the target share keeps going up. 373 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: With Dalton. 374 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, as it should. 375 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: Josh Downs burned the Steelers eight for eighty two for 376 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: in a touchdown. He is more of the problem to 377 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: me than Pittman. I think down a really good because 378 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: every time they needed he had, he converted four of 379 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: their first downs. Yeah, the third versions like that was 380 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: a chain mover man. Yeah, no, I wish he was 381 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: a Steeler. I like downs a lot two two at 382 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: Well at four for eighty two and. 383 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: They're throwing to at Well and Robinson. Yeah, that's a 384 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: tough one to figure out. 385 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: Here's what we need to talk about. Justice Hill had 386 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: six for seventy eight and a touchdown. He's more than 387 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: just a handcuff Derrick Henry. 388 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: He's a situational important player probably should be in every 389 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: fantasy league. 390 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: He used him as a third down back even Yeah, 391 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: they're not really even throwing the receivers at Henry has 392 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: a couple of you know, longer runs. They put Justice 393 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: Hill in and to carry because they just want to 394 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: run the football. Yeah. 395 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he would be the direct handcuff. 396 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: On Tavian Wicks five for seventy eight and two touchdowns. 397 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: I'm interested. I mean, especially if Watson guitar. 398 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: Did you just cut him in our league? 399 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: I did? I forget who I picked up Hopkins? 400 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I mean I'd rather have Hopkins, but yeah, yeah, 401 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: I was just like he was one of my sleepers 402 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: in the in the preseason. 403 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 404 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: What do you think of Xavier Worthies situation? Now? He 405 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: had three for seventy three in a touchdown. 406 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: It improves, but they're really different players. Yeah, but it improves. 407 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Mahome's going to throw the ball somewhere. 408 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna catch more passes. 409 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Swift had seven for seventy two in 410 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 2: that game as a receiver. But he dumped Swift right now. 411 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: If you owned him, I would try to trade him. Yeah, 412 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: he's a tough guy owned, Yeah, I would try to 413 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: trade him. Jerry Judy has six for seventy two. He's 414 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: probably available in a lot of leagues. 415 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: Their offense isn't great, but they need guys. Okay, I 416 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: mean he's orderline starter though. 417 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: Jordan Addison had three for seventy two in a touchdown. 418 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: One. 419 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: Dell Robinson, probably available in a lot of leagues, had 420 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: eleven for seventy one. He's there. Josh Downs he's their 421 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: chain movee oh totally. 422 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they'll end up in the end zone here 423 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: and there. Not a ton of touchdowns, but BPR league, 424 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: he's really valuable. 425 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: I only had a Lab Mconkee game this week, Matt 426 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: five for sixty seven and a touchdown. 427 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm expecting more of the same. Yeah, I mean, we 428 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: both really liked him coming out, and he's starting to acclimate. 429 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 3: And I don't think Quintin Johnston is a major barrier 430 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: to get over anything. 431 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: Like that, even Palmer, you know. Yeah, right, See. I 432 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: think by the time the season's it's all saiding down, 433 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: mcconky ends up being the Chargers leading receivers. 434 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think so. It's trending that way. 435 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: Mike Williams had four for sixty seven yesterday and that 436 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: was a sloppy game. 437 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: Game certain gave Wilson all he could handle. 438 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're gonna they have to expect that. They 439 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: have to expect that you're going to Wilson's going to 440 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: see the number one, you know, cornerback especially, you know 441 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: for teams that. 442 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 3: Mike Williams is a key component for them. He needs 443 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: to be a producer. Yeah, but he's capable. 444 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: You worried about some of these big time players that 445 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: aren't showing up on these lists, such as such as 446 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: Andrews yoh yeah, because he's not playing any snaps such 447 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: as Bryce Hall not quite yet. 448 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 3: I mean like I wouldn't take him second overall or 449 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: anything again, but I'm not getting out yet. 450 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 451 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 3: The thing is Allen's cutting into his stuff though too. 452 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: Allen's actually looking better than him. 453 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: The Dolphins receivers are not well, that's the problem. There's 454 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 2: nothing you can do about it. There's nothing to do 455 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: about it, right. 456 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: I own Waddle in both my leagues, and he's a 457 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 3: borderline starter to me at best. And now now Hills 458 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: like a wide receiver. Two. 459 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: There's some there's some troubling situations across the league that. 460 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: There are, and just passings down like what tight ends 461 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: do you trust? 462 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say brock Bauers before the last 463 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: the last two weeks. 464 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: Of nothing good. I don't trust Pits. Yeah, I guess 465 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: Goddard sort. 466 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: Of in the grand scheme of things, Pat Fryarmouth is 467 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: turned in beads. He's turning into one of the more 468 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: there's not a high ceiling, no, but there's a floor 469 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: that's higher than a lot of other guys. For he's 470 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: getting four catches every week. 471 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: I say he's the only tight end has four catches 472 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 3: are more every week this year, So at least there's consistency. 473 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: Right. They're throwing him the football, and you're going to 474 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: have games like yesterday where he gets a touchdown cat 475 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: or something longer down the field. And in today's NFL 476 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: tight end situations, given what else is out there, it's 477 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: not bad. 478 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: Kelsey gets a spike. Yeah, for sure. McBride is probably 479 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: the best guy, and he's been he got hurt, but 480 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: I would still value him pretty high. 481 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: What do you think it, Kincaid, it's starting to he's 482 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: starting to get more of the looks that we thought 483 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 2: he would get going into. 484 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: The manufacturer stuff for him. Yeah, so I would buy 485 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 3: on him, and I think that's still going to be 486 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 3: there for Bowers. I think that was a tough matchup 487 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: with with the last two weeks. 488 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: Really think that was always to begin with. Yeah, the 489 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: Andrews thing is it's I mean, I can explain it. 490 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: I don't know why they're doing it. 491 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: I mean they just want big people on the field. 492 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: I think they need some pass catchers on the field. 493 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 3: And I don't know that he's the same with the 494 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: car accident, those things too, plus likely he's looming as well. 495 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: How often are they both on the field together? The 496 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 3: guy though he is zero, Yeah. 497 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: In two weeks in a row. I think he has 498 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: one drop. The only ball I think thrown to him. 499 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: I think it's one target and he drowned. I don't know. 500 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 3: You texted me, you're joking, But is he he's is 501 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: he cutable? Maybe? 502 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: Maybe? 503 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: Maybe? 504 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's somebody sole sitting out there, Yeah, 505 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: that you. 506 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: Can just got hurt too. Tight end like, I don't 507 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 3: know if there's twelve that you trust right now. 508 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: That's part of the problem right now, it's a tight 509 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: end position. It's a mess. 510 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: When's Ingram do back? 511 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: I think that could be that could be coming this week. 512 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: That wouldn't be bad. Yeah, I might make it. Hawkinson's 513 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 3: still out there, Hawkinson's looming. Yeah, I wouldn't rush to 514 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: start him when he comes back, But I think who 515 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: else there's a pick from not much, not a lot, 516 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: not buying cole Comett and I mean Kittle's still fine. Yeah, 517 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: not a good spot, not. 518 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: A good spot of but we're overdue for a break. 519 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: We'll get to that now. He is the Matt Williamson. 520 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 521 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: in the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back 522 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: with more right after this. 523 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 524 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 525 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 526 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the 527 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt. At three and one, the Steelers 528 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: still lead their division and that's noteworthy. We're a quarter 529 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: of the way more or less through the season here. 530 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: Looking at NFL dot Com here, Jeff Chaheta, who's one 531 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: of their columnists, went through and identified something for each 532 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: of the division leaders at this point and what they 533 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: need could be their achilles heel. 534 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: Okay, so I thought we go with that. 535 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: We'll save the Steelers for last talk a lot, but 536 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: Steelers for the Buffalo Bills. As we saw last night, 537 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: their run defense is bad. 538 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was first time that you know, backup 539 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: linebackers and borderline safeties and things like that were exposed. 540 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: And they live in Nickel and I say the same 541 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: problem the Steelers had in the game against Indianapolis. Indianapolis 542 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: got the Steelers to start the game in their nickel 543 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: and then went with with some speed, you know, hurry 544 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: up to keep the nickel on the field, so you 545 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: just keep running against. 546 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: It against the lighter front. If I'm the Raven or 547 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: if I'm the Bills, I think I'd rather play the 548 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: Chiefs than the Ravens. 549 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: In the player. 550 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: Yes, it's just a bad matchup. Too much beef. 551 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: Could be the same situation when the Steelers geared up 552 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen saying, we got to beat the We 553 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: got to figure out a way to beat the Patriots. 554 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: So we got to get lighter at the second level. 555 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: We got to have got more speed at the second level. 556 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: And you lose some of that physicality and here come 557 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: the Jaguars and they run the ball down your throat. 558 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: And even the strength of the Bills defense is Rousseau 559 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: and von Miller and these upfield. 560 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: That doesn't you. 561 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: Want to mush rush Jackson? Right, you know, like it's 562 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: not giving escape lanes, no, right, right right? 563 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: Their defense does not want to play the rave. It 564 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 2: makes me wonder if the Steelers are a bad matchup 565 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: for the Bills. 566 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: Could be, could be. I mean, they'redn't play somewhat similar manner, 567 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: a lot of tight ends on the field, beef, a 568 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: quarterback that can run. 569 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: Power back like typically for most teams, if you put 570 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: twelve personnel or thirteen personnel in the field, most teams 571 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 2: weren't aren't going to stay nickel against that. 572 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if they will. I assume they will. 573 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: They definitely will against twelve. I don't know if they 574 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: will with thirteen or not. But that's not what they 575 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 3: want to do at all. Plus they don't have a 576 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: corner for pickings. 577 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and their linebackers are all smaller, lighter guys. 578 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: They are, and they're kind of backup ish right now too. 579 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so you know that's not the ideal 580 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: matchup for them. They're not built to play that way. 581 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: The offense has gotten a lot more physical, but the 582 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: defense hasn't. 583 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was that was a problem last night 584 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: for them, Houston. Their problem. Their problem is their offensive consistency. 585 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: Accord. You think the quarterback in the passing game is consistent, 586 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: I just think the run game is. It was bad 587 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: last week, though it wasn't great last week. 588 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: They had trouble last week again because they can't run 589 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: that they don't have any balances, and a. 590 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: Lot of it just comes down to early down consistency 591 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: for them. They're in third and longs too much and 592 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: Stroud makes up for it a lot, and their receivers 593 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: are great, but it'd be nice to be you know, 594 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 3: third and two, second and two. 595 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: They don't get in a lot of those situations. Now, 596 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: Mixing had one hundred and fifty nine rushing yards in 597 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: the first two weeks. Does it give you a better 598 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: Does it make you feel better about mix And I 599 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: know you've been down on this. 600 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was better than I thought. Yeah, I mean, frankly, 601 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: a lot of those backs Kamara mix And started the 602 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: season much better than I expected. 603 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: But part of the problem they get they end up 604 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: getting nicked up. 605 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: They get nicked up, and they're older and they want 606 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: to wear and tearing their body and they're not the 607 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: same player in week ten as they are week two. 608 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: The Texans also have twenty three penalties the last two games, 609 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: and this is becoming a league wide. 610 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 3: It's a problem. 611 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the penalties are just out of control. 612 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: They're too much. 613 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 2: I mean we've got officials just taking over games. I 614 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: know some of it too, though, is just bad offensive execution. 615 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: There's some of that like jump off side chest. Yesterday 616 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: had five false starts, all right, because because of Aaron 617 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: Rodgers cadence. Yeah, like your offensive line, you practice this 618 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: all week long, you know what Aaron Rodgers cadence is. Yeah, 619 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: I don't care if you're a new guy in the 620 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: lineup or not. 621 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: You can't blame the ref for throwing the flag when 622 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: you jump up when you're right. There's a lot of 623 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: pretty snap stuff on offense too, that's a problem. 624 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. So and Houston's defense isn't quite as good as 625 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: what we thought it was going to be. 626 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's good, not great. Yeah, you know, 627 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: like I'm an Anderson and Hunter fans. 628 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: It's been a couple of weeks now where they've gotten 629 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: it's okay? 630 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah right the Chiefs, the Chiefs and Texans have been 631 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: a little under whelming for me. Yeah, I mean for 632 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: what expectations are. 633 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: Chehitah's biggest challenge for the Chiefs is rejiggering Patrick Mahomes 634 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: supporting cast No Hollywood Brown, no Pacheco. Now you lose 635 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: or she Rice like that's a lot. That's a lot, 636 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: because you want Kelsey to be on a pitch count. 637 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 2: This would be like the Steelers now losing a rookie. 638 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: This would be the Steelers losing Pickens Naujie Harris and 639 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: and also. 640 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 3: Yeah something like that or somebody important. 641 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah right, And you know, Calvin Austin, you don't want 642 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 2: your workhorses to be the rookie speedster and the old 643 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: guy that's yeah, you're trying to save. Yeah, so it's 644 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a problem and these aren't going to 645 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: get better. It looks like Rahie Rice is done for 646 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 2: the year, but check Go's he's going to be out 647 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: at least eight weeks total. They could be a trade 648 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: for receiver team. Yeah, absolutely, Hollywood Brown's done for the year. 649 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: Like all the moves that they made, I mean, they're 650 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: gonna be counting on juju now. 651 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, is see fantasy relevant Maybe maybe? I mean I 652 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: want to see it a little bit that he. 653 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: Can open, right, I know, but they scheme him up, 654 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: yeah they will. 655 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not what he used. 656 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: To be for Washington, the surprising Washington Commanders leading the 657 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: the NFC East uh Defense. 658 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: It's the whole defense. 659 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 2: It's atrocious. 660 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: It was better against the Cardinals and they got. 661 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: How much of that do you think was Kingsbury just 662 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: completely knowing? I think there's a lot of that is 663 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: what Kyler doesn't do well. 664 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he there's a book on Kyler and nobody 665 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: would know it better. But they got like Jazzer Newton 666 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: back in and the d tackles are actually something. But 667 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: it's a bad defense. 668 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: It's a bad, bad defense, especially in the back end. 669 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: Can they win that division? No, I don't think so. 670 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think the Eagles and Cowboys 671 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: will get past them sooner than later. 672 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're playing a little over their heads, right, yeah, yeah, 673 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: it's great story. 674 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I heard someone say they're this year's Texans. Hmmm, 675 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: good young quarterback, the second over or you know, I 676 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: pick second overall pick but about. 677 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: That, you know, let's look it out over our skis. Yeah. 678 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 679 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: The Vikings now at four and oh lead the NFC 680 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: North by a couple of games. 681 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: What's theirs? 682 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: Or actually lead by one game over Detroit. 683 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: Well that head to. 684 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: Head degree right the cornerback position. Okay, they're kind of 685 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: scheming and up right, now that's why they They're blitzing 686 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: like crazy. They signed Stefan Gilmour during training camp and 687 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: immediately made him a starter. He's thirty two years old, 688 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: maybe thirty three. On the other side is Byron Murphy, 689 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: and the Packers just went after him and after him 690 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: and after him. Now he had an interception and broke 691 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: up a couple of passes. But yeah, they had no 692 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: trouble coming back because the first round. 693 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: Pick next year might be a corner. Yeah, I mean, 694 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: especially because he wants to blitz and leave them on islands. 695 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: And boy, he's doing some funky stuff that helps them too. 696 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: But that's a good one. I mean, that would worry me. 697 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: I've been streaming defenses as you know, all season long. Yeah, yeah, 698 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: I picked them up this week. I might just keep them. 699 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's one of the best defense in 700 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: the league. Yeah. 701 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: They get sacks, they get sacks, they get turnovers, they 702 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: confused quarterbacks. Yeah, I would keep them. Tampa Bay leading 703 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: the NFC South. The biggest challenge is the schedule. Really Yeah, 704 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't think they're running games particularly good either. In 705 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: the coming weeks, they have road divisional games against the 706 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: Falcons and the Saints team chasing them. Yeah, and then 707 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: three games against the Ravens, the Chiefs, and the forty 708 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: nine ers. 709 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 3: No, I guess that's a good one though. The divisional 710 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: games would be so important in that division. Yeah, I 711 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: mean that that Atlanta squeaking one out there with a 712 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: late kick, and didn't you know Saints haven't allowed a 713 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: touchdown in two weeks and lost lost, you know. 714 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this what Tampa. They already do have 715 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: wins over Detroit, in Detroit. 716 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: In Philadelphia, Philadelphia, two good wins, big good conference wins. 717 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm impressed with them. Yeah, they're playing well. Yeah, 718 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: and right now the Seahawks are the leaders in the 719 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: NFC West. Yeah, we'll see them tonight. So he didn't 720 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: get really give any analysis of that, but to me, 721 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: their biggest their biggest flaw right now. 722 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: I'm not sold on the line. 723 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm not sold on the line. And I don't know. 724 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: The defense is good good, Yeah, I mean I do 725 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: think he's a really good defensive coach and they have 726 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: some pieces and it's better than last year. If they 727 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: haven't beaten anybody anybody, Right, we'll see what tonight looks like. Yeah, 728 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a different challenge tonight against the Lions. 729 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: It is I don't think is playing. I don't think 730 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: Murphy's playing. They have a couple of defensive injuries. Yeah, 731 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: so we'll see. We'll see if they can block up 732 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: Detroit's front. As for the Steelers, Shihitah thinks their biggest 733 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: challenge is the rest of the AFC North. Now when 734 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: you say the rest of the three, yeah, I'm in 735 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: Cleveland in that at all, because they're a mess. They're 736 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: a mess. The Ravens are scary. Yeah, the Ravens are 737 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: a good team that are figuring things out that were 738 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 3: really good last year, and they got a quarterback. Bengals 739 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: offense is scary. They got a quarterback, they got it 740 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: all figured out. The other three units though, both sides 741 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: of the ball in Cleveland, especially the offense and the 742 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: Bengals defense, I don't think they I don't think the 743 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: Browns offense or Bengals defense gets better. I think their 744 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: problems all year. Now, I'm with you, like, it wouldn't 745 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: shock me if the Browns at best win one division game. 746 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: At best, you know, you just don't want it to 747 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: be against you only do that team, you would. 748 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: They knock off the Ravens or something, you know what 749 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: I mean, that'd be great series. Are gonna win three? 750 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing when he says the rest of 751 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: the AFC North Steelers went five and one in the 752 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: division last year. They've won seven of the eight last 753 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: eight matchups against the Ravens. They match up well against Baltimore. 754 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: They do, they do. Now, Derrick Henry's a different animal. 755 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: There's wars fans or buts about that. But I do 756 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: think that they have you know, I'll take TJ. Wat 757 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: against Roger Rosengarten. Oh yeah, yeah all day long. 758 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: No, hang it. I mean, I don't care who's on 759 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: the field and who's HRD for that game. 760 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: We know it's going to be a seventeen sixteen game 761 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: or seventeen thirteen or something along those lines, because both 762 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: head coaches are going to be it that way, and. 763 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: They're both gonna be healthy for that game. You know 764 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: they're both gonna I know who's gonna be on the 765 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: sidelines for that game, which means I'm taking the under. 766 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: And it's just how they play. It becomes a self 767 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: fulfilling prophecy Every year when the Steelers play the Ravens, well, 768 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: this is going to be a close, tight game and they'll 769 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: probably be decide within three points. Both guys say it 770 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: and they speak it into existence. 771 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. And if your biggest concern is the division, well 772 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: you're winning the division as we speak. Yeah, I might 773 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: saying I predicted Steelers to win the division. I probably 774 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: would pick the Ravens right now. You know, I think 775 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: they're probably the best team. They would probably have them 776 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: highest of my power rank if we were to rank 777 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: the division. But I think I take the Steelers second. 778 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: I like their chances. They got two game lead on 779 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 3: the Bengals. I like their chances to end up ahead 780 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 3: of the Bengals. 781 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. 782 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 3: I know who were picking last. 783 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: I think Cincinnati's got some fatal flaws. 784 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, they absolutely do. 785 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of shootouts, yeah, and you're 786 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: not always gonna win those. Now, I still don't think 787 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: Burrows Burrow mm hmmm. 788 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: I think he's good. He's getting back into shape, but 789 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: I don't think he's a dominant player. 790 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: Right yew, I don't know that. Maybe again, that wrist 791 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: injury that he suffered, it's on you throw a hand. 792 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: And you just have to throw a lot to keep 793 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: his team in games, and he'd probably be fine. I mean, 794 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 3: they're gonna win games. 795 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I still like the Steelers chances to at 796 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: least finish second in this division. 797 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure since A makes the playoffs. Yeah, 798 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 3: I mean the right, right, they had a long way 799 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: to go. 800 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they gotta climb out of it now. The schedule 801 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: over the next couple weeks up. But although we thought 802 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: Washington would be as. 803 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: Easy one, right, they don't look easy at the moment. 804 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 2: It's hard to play against at least, you know so, 805 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 2: and this is a team that lost to the Patriots 806 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: at home. 807 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: I think since he gets Baltimore real soon next week, 808 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: I think it's the next week, I know. Yeah, they 809 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 3: better win that one. Yeah, if you lose that one, 810 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you're behind it one and four 811 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: and yeah, but the division loss, yeah, not looking good. 812 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So that'll be an interesting one. That'll be 813 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: one we'll talk about as the week goes on here 814 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: along with the Steelers and Cowboys will sure of course 815 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: talk about that one as well. But let's get to 816 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly, 817 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: you're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 818 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 2: Matt and now give her final thoughts on what happened 819 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: on Sunday in Indianapolis, and then we'll turn the page 820 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: and move on to Dallas for the rest of this week. 821 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 3: Right after this. 822 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 823 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 824 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 825 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli he is the Matt Williamson 826 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: and we're just talking about the the joys of Wisconsin 827 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: and we saw a lot of Wisconsin players on the 828 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: field on Sunday met in the Steelers twenty seven to 829 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: twenty four loss. 830 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 3: You're the good Wisconsin observation in your ten thoughts with 831 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: the the young center not having to deal with the 832 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 3: nose tackle early on. 833 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was definitely a plan. You know, 834 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: they they wanted to get the Steelers in their nickel defense, 835 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: they being the the the Colts. And then you know 836 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 2: you saw some design runs from Richardson because you're lighter 837 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: in the box, You're leaving the middle open and. 838 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: Queen Specialty either now come up and slam a center 839 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 3: and you know, deal with a big power back or power. 840 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 2: The other part of that equation is, you know, makea 841 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick's going to be deep. He was deep in this 842 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: game because they didn't want to go give up the 843 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: big play. I think that was the whole reason for 844 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: the Colts to come out and throw that deep pass 845 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 2: the first play of the game. Those are scripts, yeah, yeah, 846 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: and okay, let's take this shot down the field. We're 847 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: going to loosen these guys up, and then we're going 848 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: to run the ball. And that's exactly what they did. 849 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: And then they adjusted. Though I'm in a steel D 850 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 3: I thought you can say it was a bad day 851 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 3: of the Steeler d and by their standards it was, 852 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: and by the first couple of drives it was horrendous. 853 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: It was a bad standard, ye for any defense. But 854 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: after that it wasn't bad. 855 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty yards I think in the first quarter, 856 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 2: and I think it was like two forty three or 857 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: something like that in the first half, and I'm giving 858 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: up three forty yeah, So I mean the second half 859 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 2: was more of what we had seen it. 860 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 3: It wasn't that far. 861 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: They got the three announce that they needed in the 862 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: third quarter. 863 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 3: And Jonathan Taylor wasn't that big of a factor. You'd 864 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 3: think he's wearing you down and they're having these good 865 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 3: drives and he's just start getting chunk runs in the 866 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: second half. 867 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: I didn't see that. I mean, yeah, I'm not super 868 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 2: worried about the defense. 869 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 3: Oh what happened to TJ. 870 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 2: Watt? 871 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 3: He was getting a lot of attention, got a lot 872 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 3: of attention. Raydan Smith's a good player. He got held 873 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: quite a bit. They got held quite a bit. There 874 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: was one Wolf was losing his mind on where they 875 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: left Smith and him alone, and I think there was 876 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 3: a big play and he just got wrapped up and. 877 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: Arms around the waist and Watts were running by him, 878 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 2: and it's like, come on, you got to call. 879 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 3: You got the real blatant ones. But don't worry about 880 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 3: DJ anyone just because he didn't have two sacks and 881 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: a ton of big plays. 882 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: I mean, if the referees are going to let you 883 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 2: get away with that kind of stuff, team, that's what 884 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 2: teams are gonna do. We're just gonna do it because 885 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 2: that's that's my big fear. It's better than allowing your 886 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: quarterback to get killed exactly. 887 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 3: But deep down, I mean bigger picture thinking I know 888 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 3: the league wants scoring to go up. They want fantasy numbers, 889 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 3: they want overs, they want quarterbacks to be superstars. They 890 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: don't want Bosa and Parsons and Crosby and you know, 891 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: Watt to be the best players in the league. And 892 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 3: if holding becomes more and more legal, which I think 893 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 3: it will, because if all the pre snap penalties are 894 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 3: going to be still in existence, and they want penalties 895 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 3: to come down, casual viewer hates the penalties. Everybody hates 896 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 3: the penalty. 897 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 2: Everybody hates the penalties. 898 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: But if you're gonna, like to Drake, that could hurt 899 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 3: the Steelers. I mean, if the more holding becomes legal, 900 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 3: the more it hurts the Steelers as much as anything 901 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 3: in the league. 902 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, now that being said, I thought I thought Cam 903 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 2: Hayward more than held his own against Quentin Nelson. 904 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 3: He's really good. 905 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 2: I thought Ogan Job played well again, But a lot 906 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: of most of the run stuff that that they did 907 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: hit the Colts was kind of on the edges a 908 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: little bit more, and you know you're going to see 909 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 2: more of that. You're going to try to get guys 910 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 2: out on the edge because you can't run up the 911 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: middle on. 912 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 3: This defense as much especially when they're in their basery 913 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: four and you know that that that too, I don't 914 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 3: have a lot of defensive concerns. Yeah, it'd been nice 915 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 3: sev high Smith, not that her big played bad and 916 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 3: he made a big play as he always does. 917 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: Flacco made some throws that were. 918 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 3: Just that's a huge key to me. Sometimes he's got 919 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 3: to tip your hat. I mean, third and seven. 920 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: Coverage was not bad, not bad, and he read them 921 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: really tight windows. 922 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 3: I hesitate to bring this stat up because I've never 923 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 3: heard it, but I've never heard of it until this morning. 924 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 3: But I was listening to a podcast. It said on 925 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 3: next Gen Stats, they have this stat of what percentage 926 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: of your completions were deemed open and his was the 927 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 3: lowest in the league. So he's throwing the covered guys. Yeah, 928 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 3: but he made it happen. You know, it's great. 929 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: Work sometimes that that happens, and you know, you tip 930 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: your hat. Somebody on the YouTube last week on our 931 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: comments did ask, you know, are the Steelers preparing, you know, 932 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 2: for Flacco in case he has to come in as 933 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 2: the backup. I'm like, you don't necessarily prepare for the backup. 934 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: You know who the backup is they're very familiar with. Yeah, 935 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: well Tomlin's very familiar with. Yeah, you know, and so 936 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, you know who the backup is, but 937 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: you don't prepare for the backup. No, I mean, there's 938 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: it's a two way street. 939 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 3: I mean, how many snaps did Flacco get in practice 940 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 3: for the Colts. Probably very few. But that's one of 941 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 3: the beauties of having that old ben around the block. 942 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 3: Doesn't need a lot of reps, definitely doesn't need any 943 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 3: mental reps. And then they scrap their playbook and then 944 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 3: the Steelers scrap their playbook. But you didn't prepare for 945 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 3: the quick hitting Pittman down stuff. 946 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 2: He was twelve for twelve. This from my next gen stats. Yeah, 947 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 2: twelve for tel twelve on past is from zero to 948 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 2: nine yards for one hundred nine yards and two touchdowns. 949 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 3: Crisp fall out on time. 950 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 2: That would not have happened if Anthony richardson quarterback. They changed. 951 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: We talked about it, and again people asked about this. Well, 952 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 2: you said that, you know, they can't run their offense 953 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: if Flacco is a quarterback, they can't run the same 954 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 2: offense that they run. It's not you didn't see designed 955 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 2: runs for Joe Flacco. I guarantee you all all week 956 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: long in the preparation leading up to this game, they 957 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 2: had a lot of designed Anthony Richardson runs in their offense. 958 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: We saw it early in the game on the first drive, 959 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: more than in the first three games. Draws and things 960 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 2: of that nature with the quarterback. You're not going to 961 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: do that with Flacco. 962 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 3: No, But their offensive staff and their head coach is 963 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 3: an offensive guy. 964 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: They get paid, knows all this stuff too. 965 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 3: And has a different chapter for the backup. I mean, 966 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 3: their their play style is more different than any starter 967 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 3: backup maybe in the league, and that can be an advantage. 968 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 3: I mean, especially for a really smart, offensive minded guy 969 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 3: that says, when we go to Joe and you know 970 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 3: your starter is very injury prone. You know when we 971 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,439 Speaker 3: go to Joe, balls gonna come out quick, and we're 972 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 3: gonna throw a lot of one to ten yard Chris 973 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 3: passes to some sharp breaking receivers. 974 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 2: I like their receivers, and you're gonna matriculate the ball 975 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 2: down the field a little bit more than you would 976 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: with with Richardson, who was overly reliant on the hitting, 977 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: the big the. 978 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 3: Big play or legs or improv or whatever. You know, right, 979 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: So they're very, very different. And the more I think 980 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 3: it through, and it's not assuasion situation, it's that does 981 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 3: favor the Colts more than I think the Steelers because 982 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 3: the Colts have all off season to have a Flacco package. 983 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 3: The Steelers have the week of preparing for Richardson and 984 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: on the side, maybe there's something they know who the 985 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 3: back happens. We know it's gonna be a much different game, 986 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 3: But you didn't practice against Flacco. 987 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, when we talk about Flacco not being the ideal 988 00:42:54,400 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 2: back up for Richardson, it's more of long term, right right, Like, Okay, 989 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 2: so flaccoes your backup in Richardson's out in the next 990 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: six weeks and I'm not saying that's the case. He 991 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: might be back this week. Well, now you do have 992 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: to change how you perform offensively. It changes schematically. 993 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 3: Minshew wasn't either. Yeah, every team views that differently. Someone 994 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 3: wants a totally different backup. Some of them just want 995 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 3: a veteran leader that's gonna teach the young guy the 996 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 3: ways of the NFL and things of that nature. Even 997 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 3: if there's play styles not at all similar. Someone a 998 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: carbon copy like I do not want to change our 999 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: playbook one bit. If the good if the starter goes down, 1000 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 3: you know, we might trink it a little bit, but 1001 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 3: we don't play it in the same stock. 1002 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 2: It's the you know what the Ravens when Tyler Huntley's 1003 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: are back up exactly. He's very similar to Lamar. You 1004 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: don't have to change anything in your play. 1005 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 3: But it's the Miller lite version. Yeah, we're still gonna 1006 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 3: run it, but it's Mick ultra version. You know, they're 1007 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 3: still gonna do the same stuff. Colts apparently don't agree 1008 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 3: because they're in the last two that they went out 1009 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 3: and paid money to Minshew and Flacco. 1010 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: Uh. But overall, Matt, I'm kind of with you. I'm 1011 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: not I'm not down on the Steelers or this loss. 1012 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 2: You weren't a as I said in the open, You're 1013 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: not gonna win them all. It's very difficult to win 1014 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 2: on the road in the NFL. To win three in 1015 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 2: a row on the road in the NFL would have 1016 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: been a kind of historic thing in team history. It's 1017 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 2: only happened a few times. But you showed some things 1018 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 2: in this game that you hadn't shown in several years. 1019 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: Positively, the ability. 1020 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 2: To come back in those situations. And I don't care 1021 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: if it's if it's Fields or if it's Wilson. You 1022 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 2: have the ability with this offense and this scheme and 1023 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 2: the guys that they have to come back in those situations. 1024 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 3: And in this case, you trusted Fields to do more. 1025 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 3: Now we need you, I mean, now the Governor's off 1026 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 3: you need to be put the team on your back, 1027 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 3: and he showed a lot of those capabilities. I do 1028 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 3: believe going forward, this will be one of the worst 1029 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 3: defensive games. Yeah, you know, it wasn't their day and 1030 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 3: all that stuff, unless they get crushed by injuries and 1031 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 3: it's not the same squad. And I think a lot 1032 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 3: of things that went wrong, a. 1033 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 2: Highly correctable slash fluky, yeah, you know, some self a 1034 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 2: lot of self inflicted Yeah, yeah, just things that you 1035 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 2: should you know that hurts any team, Yeah, absolutely, I mean, 1036 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 2: and that's. 1037 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 3: Hurt this team anytime we've seen self inflicted. 1038 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have liked to have won the game 1039 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 2: if you're Mike Toman and have those teachable moments come 1040 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 2: in a win. 1041 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what if by chance you get into 1042 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 3: bas for the send this thing to overtime and man, 1043 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 3: I can't believe they pulled that one out. As badly 1044 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 3: as they played, they were pretty close to that. 1045 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: They were close to it. They were close to that. 1046 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sitting here and I'm watching this as 1047 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: they got the ball back and and somebody said, boy, 1048 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 2: they're gonna have enough time to come back and win this, 1049 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, let's see here. They just went 1050 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: the seventy yards in two twenty three to score. They 1051 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: have two thirty seven I believe it was at this 1052 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: point to go. It was a little bit longer. And 1053 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 2: then Fields goes and gets a nine yard run on 1054 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: first down, and it's like, okay, now they've got about 1055 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 2: seventy yards and it's two twenty three. 1056 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, or back where we're at. And they kind of 1057 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 3: had the defense figured out, and you know, the defense 1058 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 3: kind of was out of tricks and you kind of 1059 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 3: knew what they were doing, you know. Yeah, So. 1060 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 2: I think that's a positive to me. Again, you know, 1061 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: the big thing is is you shouldn't have to get 1062 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: four hundred yards of offense. 1063 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 3: No, and there's a lot of losses out there with 1064 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 3: four hundred yards of offense. 1065 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 2: That was always my argument when people said, well this 1066 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 2: team hasn't had four hundred yards of offense and you know, 1067 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 2: three years. I'm like, that doesn't guarantee you a win. 1068 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 3: No, And we go over the leading passers a lot 1069 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 3: and you know, fantasy stuff, and there's a lot of 1070 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 3: ls you know with the guys that there's a. 1071 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 2: Lot more of the guys who have the one hundred 1072 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 2: yard rushing games that his team won. Yeah, and there 1073 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 2: are the three hundred yard passing games in his team. One. 1074 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 3: Why don't you worried about the run game though, a 1075 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 3: little bit? 1076 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know some of that. I think the 1077 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 2: line shuffling isn't great. That's not helpful. 1078 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1079 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 2: I do think maybe they need to come out and 1080 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 2: it's something that they did with Ben Roethlisberger early in 1081 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 2: his career when he was young in two thousand and four, 1082 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 2: has come out throwing to set up the run. Later. 1083 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 3: I was thinking that too. They're so run heavy on 1084 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 3: early down that it might need to rebounaluate a little bit. 1085 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: That I understand the logic behind it. We're gonna pound. 1086 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 3: We're gonna pound. We don't mind punting. We have a 1087 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 3: good defense. Nausey's gonna wear you out. Those will turn 1088 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 3: into runs. Late, but passing on first and ten is 1089 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 3: much more efficient than running on first and tent just 1090 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 3: league wide. 1091 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and again, teams are attacking the line 1092 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 2: of scrimmage like crazy. We saw it last week with 1093 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 2: the Chargers. We saw it again with with with Indianapolis. 1094 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 2: There the linebackers are just coming downhill. 1095 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 3: Same with the safeties. Yeah. I don't think you and 1096 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 3: I talked about this because my mondays are weird and 1097 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 3: I get redundant with a couple of different shows. I 1098 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 3: remember talking to Wolf and Rob about it. Certainly when 1099 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 3: Nausey's in the game, Yeah, you know, like everyone talks about, well, 1100 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 3: Warren so much more efficient. Look what Cordill Patterson did. 1101 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 3: But when Nausey's in the game, those lineback and safeties, 1102 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 3: our first step is forward. Yeah, I mean, just pay 1103 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,720 Speaker 3: attention to it. It's very evident. 1104 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 2: It's it's definitely there, and it's something and. 1105 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 3: Maybe more play action with him in the game. 1106 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 2: You have four games to kind of reassess, and I 1107 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 2: think a lot of times when when teams are scouting 1108 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 2: an opponent, they'll look at the last three or four games. Well, 1109 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 2: now the Steelers have enough games in the Arthur Smith 1110 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 2: scheme and field. They can do a little self scouting here. 1111 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 2: Maybe that's something we're running too much on first down. 1112 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: I think that's a legit criticism, but it also I 1113 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 3: don't think it's a nausey thing. You know, Like getting 1114 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 3: him involved in the passing game was really nice. Yeah, yeah, right, 1115 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 3: you know, and everyone's key and run and he's in 1116 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 3: the game. Well then he breaks off along run, you know, 1117 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 3: hit a couple of catches, you. 1118 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 2: Give you a fifty yards pass, get him out on 1119 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 2: the secondary and let him run some guys over, you know, 1120 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 2: and then you've got to get him pass the line 1121 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. That's the Yeah, that's been the big problem. 1122 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 2: And again the line shuffling is not helpful. Not helpful, right, Matt. 1123 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 2: That's going to do for the show today. So we 1124 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: will be back tomorrow. We'll start breaking down more of 1125 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 2: the Cowboys while the Mike Tomlin press conference tomorrow as well, 1126 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 2: we'll get a little bit more of the clarification on 1127 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: some of the injury stuff. See where that's at. But 1128 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 2: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on 1129 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 2: site keeping us on the air, and for Tyler Wittmeyer 1130 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 2: making sure our video stays nice and pretty. 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