1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: All right, folks, welcome back to the last edition of 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: Refresh for the month of November. I'm Jake Coper and 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: we have a handful of different updates here across the 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: country like Ohio, Kansas, Iowa, and Pennsylvania. So I hope 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: you guys enjoy a little check in and some strategy 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: that might help you over the next seven days. As 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: you know, Roughresh is brought to you by land dot Com, 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: the leading online real estate marketplace to find your perfect rural, recreational, 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: agricultural hunting properties here in the US. I feel like 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: we're entering a little bit of an awkward time of 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: the year. Depending on what state you're in, depending on 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: where the gun seasons are placed, you might have you 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: might be dealing with a new hand now then even 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago, and we're going to 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 1: give you some intel, some insight on how to roll 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: with the punches move forward. And that is my challenge 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: for you guys this week. Just keep keep moving forward, 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: go out and scout thanks to restrategize, brainstorm. That's all 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: you can do. So without further too, let's kick things 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: off with Casey Smith from the Element. Here we go, 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: all right. First up, we have Casey Smith from The 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: Element who just shot his personal best buck in Kansas. 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: You're sitting in Iowa and you're a guy I gotta 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: talk to because you're you were like in the cut 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: man you have flying around. 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: It's a weird feeling when you have like a big tag, 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: like an Iowa tag is you kind of know right 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: like you I want to sit there and like absorb 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: the feeling of shooting a giant buck, my biggest buck ever, 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: and then it's like I actually I got to spend 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: about twelve hours taking daddy in and it's time to 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: roll on because I need to do this tag justice. 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: So it's it's a strange feeling, but you know, first 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: world problems. 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: As they say, super blast to be able to hunt 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: multiple states. 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah man, so yeah, congratulations, incredible gear. We've stayed in 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: touch here throughout the season, and what have you been 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: seeing as far as activity here? You know, in the 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: last couple of days here Illinois, this was our first 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: we just wrapped up the first little leg of our 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: gun season. There was there was some riding activity and 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: then some like man, I can't wait for a foot 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: of snow activity too. So what have you been seeing. 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: So Kansas and I are a lot different. Do you 46 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: want both or do you want yeah? I would yeah, okay, 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: So in Kansas it was very much locked down. The 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: only bucks you saw on their feet were the dinkers, 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: you know, they were running around two year olds and 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: under were were roman. I saw in general less bucks 51 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: this year. I think that we had some EHD after 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: talking to farmers and stuff, and some of the crop 53 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: rotation wasn't favorable for us, So not as many bucks 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: as I'm used to, you know. But if you were 55 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: in an open area and you could find a buck 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: on lockdown, you could get on them. Because I love 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: lockdown whenever I can see the bucks. Now, when if 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: you're in the timber country and you can't see the bucks, 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: or you're in you know, my by mile crop country 60 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: and they're all on the fence rows. 61 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: It's difficult, right, I mean, you know this very well. 62 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: But if you're out in you know, say grassland habitat 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: and you can see bucks and glass a long ways 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: like the lockdown's awesome because you just bet them and 65 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: go after them. 66 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: And I kind of like jason them down, you know. 67 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: So that was fun. But I would say it was difficult. 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: Of course, I think the nation understands that the temperatures 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: have not been favorable for most of the month. So 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: with that comes some early, you know, even nighttime deer 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: movement getting back to their betting areas as opposed to 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: you know, if it was thirty five at nine am, 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: there'd still be deer very. 74 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: Much on their feet in crop fields and this and that. 75 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: I just wasn't seeing that. 76 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: And you combine that with the warmer temperatures also have 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: made for some foggy mornings I feel like, you know, 78 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: because there's more humidity than what there normally would be 79 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: when the cold you know, the cold fronts knocks. 80 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: That out of the air. 81 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: So it made really difficult conditions for glassing as well. 82 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: And I've had that in both places, Iowa and Kansas. 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, now you juxpose that to Iowa. Iowa really seems. 84 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: Like lockdown is over for the most part. I mean, 85 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's still our bucks lockeddown. I'm having a 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: hard time seeing my shooters on the hoof. However, I'm rattling, 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: especially in the evenings, and I'm having multiple deer every 88 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: rattling sequence come in to that ratling sea when this evening. 89 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: In fact, I've had a really like a heart wrening 90 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: pass on one upper one forties twelve point that was 91 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: three years old, and I normally would really like if 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: I was in forty eight other states, I would probably 93 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: be ripping that, you know, out of respect to the 94 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: landowner and just also you know, wanting to hunt anspture deer. 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: I gave him the past. 96 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: So when you're rid on in the evening specifically and 97 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: even thinking here for the next seven days, are you waiting? 98 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, are you riding on at three o'clock, four 99 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: o'clock on the hour? Are you waiting right towards that 100 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: golden hour, you know, thirty forty minutes before sunset? What's 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: kind of what? Are you busting them out? 102 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: Pretty much as soon as I get in the tree, 103 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: I mean crazy enough. On the walk in this evening 104 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: in Iowa, we came across a little rut fest not 105 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: where I was trying to go. 106 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: It was. Let me explain the property a little bit. 107 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: There's a bean field on top, and then there's a 108 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: lot of CRP buffers around the bean like it sits 109 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: up really well right as far as like deer. 110 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: Habitat goes hard to hunt because of access. And then 111 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: in the middle of crp fields are fingers of timber 112 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: through the draws, you know, kind of classic Midwest Iowa 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: looking stuff, right. 114 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: And these deer we're all down on the adjacent property. 115 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: There's a pond, probably about a one acre pond, and 116 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: it has a real marshy area at the head of that, 117 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: and that hits the fence, and there were five or 118 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: six bucks right there at the head of that, just 119 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: in there. 120 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: Sparring, posturing up at one another, and there was one 121 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: four year old in the group. 122 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: He's all busted up, kind of a thin antler deer, 123 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: a deer I knew, and he kind of postured through 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: and then left, and that made me kind of decide 125 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 2: that there wasn't a more mature deer in there. 126 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: I think it was just one of those things. 127 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: Where it's kind of the late rut situation where all 128 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: those bucks are kind of getting back together, especially the 129 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 2: young ones, and they're kind of doing their re establishing 130 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: who's the boss. 131 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: That kind of stuff. 132 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: So that's kind of the unique thing that I saw there. 133 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: But that leads back to your question. They were sparring, 134 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: and that kind of very much gives me confidence to 135 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: know that that works now. It is a start contrast 136 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: to morning versus evening. I have not rattled in a 137 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,119 Speaker 2: deer in the morning yet. I don't and I don't 138 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: really know why that. 139 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: Is the case. But in the evenings it's working really, 140 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: really well. 141 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I got to the stand late because we 142 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: ran across that little you know, buckfest down there. But 143 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: I rattled the first time, I think at three point forty, 144 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: and had a two year old and a decent buck 145 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: come running in. 146 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: They never got in range, but they they ran up. 147 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: And I think they got actually cut off by some doze. 148 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: But then the second time I rattled was about four 149 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: to ten, and that's when that future stud just ran 150 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: to the base. 151 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: Of the tree. 152 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: He just came up over the hill through the RP, 153 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: just straight in, you know, just kind of what you 154 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: dream of. But yeah, yeah, and then again later I 155 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: rattled in another three year old eight point so strock 156 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: and rolling. 157 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's a really good fresh piece of 158 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: advice for the time of year. And I always find 159 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: it interesting too. I feel like you can pick up 160 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot just from social media. In the last couple 161 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: of days, I've seen the big bucks biding to the 162 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: death for the first time, you know, like, and it 163 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: seems like that's this happened here in the last couple 164 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: of days. So I feel like that probably adds a 165 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: little bit more context to do your's success too. In fact, 166 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: I just picked up I mean, you and I talked 167 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: about this previously, but I picked up one of my shooters, Daylight, 168 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: for the first time, and I think like thirty five days, 169 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: and he'd broken off a time, and he didn't really 170 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: seem like much of a fodder. 171 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: I didn't think. 172 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: So I think that they are very much kind of 173 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: duking it out for the last good smells. 174 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So as far as so right on in 175 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: the evenings you're finding success, is there anything else words 176 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: of Encouragement's Thanksgiving week? You probably have family stuff. You've 177 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: probably been hunting like an animal the whole bomb, and 178 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: now you got to go back and say, hey, I 179 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: still need to go out and hunt, And how are 180 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: you gonna Are you gonna position this for success for 181 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: anyone that's gonna try to sneak out here in the 182 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: next seven days? 183 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: For sure, I would say that now I'm kind of weird, right, 184 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: I just told everybody. I like hunting lock down, and 185 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: nobody really likes hunting locked down. You know, in specific situations, 186 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: it's good. The same thing goes for the heat of 187 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: the rut if you have target bucks. I found that, 188 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: like the heat of the rut is difficult because you 189 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: don't know where they're going to be. 190 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: And I think we're starting to see. 191 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: Those target bucks actually kind of go back to using 192 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: their core areas a lot more, and. 193 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 3: So trail cameras for sure. 194 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: Like if you pick up a deer on shil camera, 195 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: then you can have a lot more confidence I think 196 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: over the next week of that deer being in that area, 197 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: whereas you know, ten five days ago, even if you 198 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: picked up a buck on shil camera, it's almost like, Okay, 199 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: let me go way away from that because that's where 200 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: he's actually going to be tomorrow, you know. So I 201 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: think that it's a great time of year to catch 202 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: bucks you are still feeling ruddy, but also not roaming 203 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: near as far as they were. 204 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's really good advice. As far 205 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: as one to ten next next seven days, ten being 206 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: the best week of the year, one being one of 207 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: the worst weeks of the year, you're in Iowa, you 208 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: have a tag in your pocket. How much conviction do 209 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: you have in the next seven days. 210 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: I would say it's really good because we are looking 211 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: at the best weather front that we've had so far 212 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: this year. I know the dates aren't good, and I 213 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: know the science tells you that the rut is always 214 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: determined by you know, or dironal length right or length 215 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: of day. However, cold weather will get the deer on 216 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: their feet and get them moving. 217 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: Whether it is going to increase. 218 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: Any rut action, I think it just increases visible rut action, 219 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: you know. 220 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: So I would say that in the next week, we're looking. 221 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: At seven I feel like especially in Iowa. 222 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: I think, I mean, Kansas is different. 223 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that higher, but for Iowa, for the Midwest, 224 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: especially since it's been so hot, I think that it's 225 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: gonna be a great week. 226 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I love it. That's that's the positivity we 227 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: need right now. 228 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: So I like the positivity. 229 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: Man. Sure. One question I think would probably be in 230 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: the back of a lot of people's minds, so as 231 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: far as hunting food sources in the evenings for this 232 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: next seven days, is that something that you're going to 233 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: try to target corn beans or are you still going 234 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: to be kind of set up in some sort of 235 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: transitional area or in the woods or timber or just 236 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: inn I was specifically, and you know people can extrapolate 237 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: that for the Midwest. 238 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that in Iwa, I know of 239 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: an eighth of an acre of standing beans here on 240 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: this property. And the other day we showed up and 241 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: it was that rainy day where it was pretty cold, 242 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: and those deer were hammered that little tiny eighth of 243 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: an acre because temperature is somewhat relative, right, Like it 244 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: was a shock. It was a twenty degree drop even 245 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: though it's only forty five when it has been being 246 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: sixty five or seventy. They're like, oh, I gotta go 247 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: hit the feed. And so I think absolutely that that 248 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 2: anywhere you can find good food is it's going to 249 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: be awesome. 250 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: But I still think that like on mornings, being tucked 251 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: back up in the stuff is a great move. 252 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: But if it's the evening, I think you really have 253 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: a hard time hunting, like out in the open, But 254 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: like if you can find yourself at the head of 255 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: a draw that leads to good food, you know, a 256 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: staging area, you know a place you can let the 257 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: dose get by you and not smell you or see 258 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: you and be there for the last thirty minutes. That's 259 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: a really good opportunity to see a mature buck on 260 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: his feet. 261 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: I like it. 262 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: Well, good luck and Iowa congratulations on all the success 263 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: this year. 264 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, thank you very much. 265 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: And as far as these hunts this year, will they 266 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: be on the element next year or when is that 267 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: when those will drop? 268 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: Probably I shot my biggest public land buck ever this 269 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: year a few weeks ago. That hunt will drop on 270 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: Monday the twenty third or fourth or something like that. 271 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: So by the time this goes out, it's already is out. 272 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: And that actually is an exhilarating on. 273 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: I mean, the craziest. 274 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: I rattled this deary and he just rips through a 275 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: bunch of cattails and frag and all kinds of stuff 276 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: to get to us, and you know, stand off at 277 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: fifteen yards, so pretty sick. 278 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: I'd appreciate and thank you for bringing that up. That'll 279 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: be out. As far as my the biggest book. 280 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: Ever that just happened, that will likely be a twenty 281 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: sixth release. 282 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sure you know we're picking up pieces right now. 283 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 284 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: Well, that's people can go watch a HELMP from this 285 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: year on the element, So I encourage him to go 286 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: do that. And congratulations again on awesome year and good 287 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: luck and Iowa thank you, Jake, really appreciate it all right. 288 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: Next up is Clint Campbell with Truth from the stand 289 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: back in Pennsylvania. He spent a long time in Kansas. 290 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: And uh, we're getting to the point where now is 291 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: it's the bottom of the ninth of November. Man, Like, 292 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: there's no way to sugarcoat this. We're there. And before 293 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: we get into what you've been seeing and what you're 294 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: looking forward to over the next week, how many public 295 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: land acres are in the state of Pennsylvania and the 296 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: answers in millions? 297 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's three and a half million. 298 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: My little book says five point eight. 299 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say five. I was trying to remember. 300 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 5: It's funny because I had looked at it probably like 301 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 5: three months ago, so I don't even remember why I 302 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 5: looked at it. I was just probably out of curiosity. 303 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: Dang. 304 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 5: I knew it was millions. I knew it was millions, 305 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 5: but I was between three and five. 306 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: So man, you got. 307 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: Pretty pretty dark close. Yeah, that's that's pretty dark close. 308 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: So what have you been seeing here in the last 309 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of days. And I know, I 310 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: know you just got back from a really long extended trip, 311 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: so I understand if you haven't been back out in Pennsylvania, 312 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: but kind of what have you been seeing from cameras activity? Friends? Yeah, 313 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: and what's been going on? Or is there still some 314 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: running activity going on? Yeah? 315 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: There is. 316 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: You know, I was out, I was out in the 317 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 5: planes and the faucet kind of turned off out there 318 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 5: as the weather as the weather hit or got warm, 319 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: and then it was going to rain. 320 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: But I was starting before I left. 321 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 5: I was already to see Bucks start to kind of 322 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 5: cruise again, you know, and we're coming out of lockdown 323 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: and stuff like that, you know, and so whether it 324 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 5: just kind of turns I. 325 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: Ended up coming back coming back to PA. 326 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: I haven't been able to get out like like you'd mentioned, 327 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 5: but I've just been kind of monitoring cameras and the 328 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 5: bummer was there's real good. There's an area that I 329 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: like to hunt that usually historically, like the eighteenth and 330 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 5: nineteenth have always been really really good, like twentieth you know, 331 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 5: twenty first, and I just couldn't get out of work 332 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 5: early enough to get there. And sure enough, like I 333 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 5: don't have a cell camera in that spot because I've 334 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: had it stolen there multiple times, so I put it. 335 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: I put a junker in there. 336 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 5: And but where I have some cell cameras, like all 337 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: of a sudden, like one of the better bucks that 338 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 5: I've actually had on camera all year showed up on 339 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: the nineteenth and so hitting a scrape right and bought 340 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 5: it work at the licking branch, you know, urinated in it, 341 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: doing all the things right. And so I'm starting to 342 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 5: see that, you know, as you mentioned, we're in the 343 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: bottom of the ninth, starting to see that like bottom 344 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 5: of the ninth activity kind of happened where you know, 345 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 5: it's gonna be probably dead as a doornail most places, right, 346 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: you know, comparatively speaking. 347 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: Right to what we experience November November. 348 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but if you're in the right spot, there's 349 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 5: still magic to be made, right, And so that's that's 350 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: kind of what I'm seeing from my cameras. I'm still seeing, 351 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 5: you know, what i'll call satellite bucks still doing a 352 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 5: lot of like moving like they're they seem to be 353 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 5: really visible. But it seems like, you know, the big 354 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 5: boys of course, might be hanging a little tighter to 355 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: the cover. 356 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: They're still covering ground. 357 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: It's it's now it seems like it's more the twilight, 358 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 5: so gray light on both ends of the day. Right, 359 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 5: it's no longer like mid day cruising hanging out like 360 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 5: I'm really seeing it close to like bedding cover. And 361 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 5: they're getting back just a little late in the morning 362 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 5: or getting out just a little earlier in the in 363 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: the afternoon or evening, if you will, right, And so 364 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: that's kind of what the cameras are telling me now. 365 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: So I'm kind of chomping out the bit to get 366 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 5: back out because I know, you know, got one more 367 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 5: swing at it, and it's not a bad swing if 368 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 5: you know where to be. And I've got a couple 369 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 5: of spots that I think are that are primed, so you. 370 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Mentioned, you know, if you're in the right spot, you 371 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: still might be seeing some activity, and it sounds like 372 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: you need to be a little bit tighter to cover 373 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: more than likely for someone listening that says, yeah, where 374 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: I hunted the majority of November, it was on fire. 375 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: Now I've hunted it a couple of times, and you know, 376 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: you see a spike and a dough family group that's 377 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: back together, and like, dude, I'm not in the right spot, 378 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: and I know the clock's ticking. So what would you 379 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: tell that person to at least try to try to 380 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: find here and also remain somewhat calm too, And maybe 381 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: you don't want to be cool, maybe you want to 382 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: be sporadic and crazy. 383 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not going to be calm. You know, I'm 384 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 4: going to be pretty. 385 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 5: And when I say that, like, I'm just going to 386 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 5: be really mobile, like I'm not gonna soak spots necessarily, 387 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 5: Like this isn't the rut where I'm going to put 388 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 5: you know, I'm just like some people will still kind 389 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 5: of do this where it's like time in seat and 390 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 5: I'm just going to ride out all they sit. It's 391 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: like I'll do that whenever I'm in that kind of 392 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 5: time frame where it's like, man, magic can happen at 393 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 5: any moment. You know, you can have a giant or 394 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 5: your target deer walk through because they're moving all day 395 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 5: in daylight, anding through a caution to the wind. To me, 396 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 5: when we get to this timeframe, I probably start to 397 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 5: hunt it more like I hunt like that mid to 398 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 5: later October timeframe where I'm trying to constantly find where 399 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: I'm going to be in the game at right and 400 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 5: if it's if I don't have a good feeling about 401 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 5: the spot I'm in, whether the trail cameras have been 402 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 5: dead in that area, or if the sign has kind 403 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 5: of told me that they're not in the area. 404 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: That's the other hard part, Like they're not. 405 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: Really laying down stuff like you had seen previously, so 406 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 5: you're probably really relying more on trying to cut a track, 407 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 5: you know, trying to get a visual on something like 408 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 5: a little further away if you can, you know, if 409 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: you're in an area that you can see or whatever 410 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 5: the case is. 411 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: But I'm definitely not staying calm. 412 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 5: I'm probably going back to more of my kind of 413 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 5: like pre rut kind of like approach to things. I'm 414 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 5: going to stick closer to betting cover. I'm probably going 415 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 5: to play the odds of like trying to if I 416 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 5: know there's a good betting area that's going to hold 417 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 5: like a decent buck or two, typically, I'm probably going 418 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 5: to play that and kind of bank on maybe catching 419 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: them coming back late or leaving a little bit early 420 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 5: to kind of. 421 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 4: Make their rounds, so to speak. 422 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 5: The dough situation, I feel is almost kind of like 423 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 5: off the table to a degree, like the dough family groups, 424 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 5: because you're really kind of like if they've been bred 425 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 5: or they're not in, then you're kind of like just 426 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 5: outside the game, like you got no shot at that point, 427 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 5: right unless I start to see, like if I'm in 428 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 5: an area that I know there's like a dough family 429 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 5: and I see a and I see a straggler, like, 430 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: then then maybe, right, But if I'm seeing them grouped 431 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 5: up and stuff like that, like I'm not I'm not 432 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 5: spending time in those areas. And that was honestly kind 433 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 5: of my similar strategy when rubs in the planes, like 434 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 5: I would look for dough family groups, and once they 435 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 5: broke up, I knew it was game on. And then 436 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: soon they got back together, I knew that place was 437 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 5: that place was cool. 438 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: I had I had a this week. Actually, its pretty funny, 439 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: A hundred. It the evening before seven bucks, like, oh 440 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: my gosh, you know, and I'm honey a specific deer, 441 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: and then I went and hunted to the next morning 442 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: and then here comes the dough two yearly and I 443 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: don't know if it's the same dough. And I was like, oh, 444 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: party's over. 445 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 4: That was exactly what happened. 446 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 5: That's exactly what happened to me in that cold snap 447 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 5: that we had that came across the Midwest there like 448 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 5: the middle ish early part of November, and that was 449 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 5: when I saw all my had all my encounters, and 450 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 5: it was like, same as you. 451 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: I saw seven bucks. 452 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 5: I forget I think it was the ninth or tenth, 453 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: and then it was. 454 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: Just like someone turned the fossil off. 455 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 5: Like I came back the next day it was the 456 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 5: same thing where I was like, hey, there's seven doughs altogether. 457 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: I was like it was a bad sign. 458 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know, I think, you know, there's a 459 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: lot of people to preach, you know, the magic of 460 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week and and those bucks desperately searching and last 461 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: like five out of six years, I've already killed a buck. 462 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: So honestly, typically I have a hundred. This this time 463 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: period is hard, and I will be because I'm still 464 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: afterwood and so I'm taking all this advice to heart here. 465 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: But I think for someone that has an extended time, 466 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: maybe they have more time this weekend because you know, 467 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving they're going to go eat some turkey and then sorry, 468 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go hunt this upcoming weekend. I mean, your 469 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: your strategy here is just go in there and try 470 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: to find something for a reason to be there or 471 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: whether it's intel camera data and and just ultimately everyone 472 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: hats to admit it hope to get a little lucky. 473 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 474 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think part of it too is like 475 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 5: is you know a little bit where you hunt to 476 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 5: a degree for me hunting like the public that I 477 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: hunt and things of that and things of that nature. 478 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 5: You know, it's been pounded all season, right, so I 479 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 5: got to really kind of go in and qualify. Right. 480 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: But I think if you're in a situation where you 481 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: have like lease ground or your own ground or whatever 482 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 5: and that you're managing and stuff like that, and you 483 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 5: kind of know what deer in the area, you can 484 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 5: I think then you can maybe ride things out a 485 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 5: little bit more. 486 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: Right. 487 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 5: For me, it's more of a I have to go 488 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: back prospect again to a degree, right, you know, which 489 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 5: means I'm going to be a little bit more mobile. 490 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 5: I'm not going to pull a whole lot of time 491 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: because I when I think of that, the person I 492 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 5: think of, and you probably would agree that when I 493 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 5: think of that time frame, like the week before and 494 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 5: after Thanksgiving, like that two week kind of period, the 495 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 5: person who comes to my mind is Don Higgins, like 496 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: because that is the person that, like, you know, years ago, 497 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 5: when I had him on the show, we were talking, 498 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 5: and that was he was the first one that kind of. 499 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: Told me about that week being so good. 500 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: And so when I think of that week, I think 501 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 5: of him a lot of times because that's where I 502 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: picked it up at. And but I also kind of 503 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 5: recognize that some of this too is you know, yes, 504 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 5: it can be good, but it's like you've got to 505 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 5: be in the game. And if you have a property 506 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 5: that's that's in the game, then awesome. If you don't, 507 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 5: you probably need to qualify and prospect and figure out, 508 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 5: you know, if where you're intending to hunt is putting 509 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 5: you in the game or not, And if not, then 510 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 5: you don't want to be spending time there because it's 511 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 5: going to feel like you're hunting the last week of January, 512 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, or like whatever the whatever 513 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 5: your late season is with no destination food source, you 514 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 5: know what I mean, because like that's what you get. 515 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 4: You either get, you either get. 516 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, this feels like pre ready because I'm in a 517 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 5: I'm in the game right and I've got the things 518 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 5: I need to have, right or I feel like I'm 519 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 5: hunting like the last. 520 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 4: Week of late season with no destination food right where 521 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 4: it's just the ghost town. 522 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: Right, perfect, perfect way to describe it. And then I think, 523 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: what about hunting public Land in Pennsylvania to everyone's been 524 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: out hunting really hard, and so like how much does 525 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: human pressure come into your weekend game plan for Thanksgiving weekend? 526 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, if I'm gonna be away from the family, 527 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be hunting. I need to try to make 528 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: good use of my time. I also know, based off 529 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: camera inventory or maybe historically, you know, one area gets 530 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: you know, hunted really hard. I mean, is that going 531 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: pretty heavy into your decision making process? 532 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 4: One hundred percent? 533 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, because most of the places that I would hunt, 534 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 5: you know in that you know, Octobers November, like just 535 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 5: during the season in general, Like I won't go to 536 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 5: this during this time, right because it's it's going to 537 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 5: have been hunted pretty hard at this point. And it's 538 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: also places where people are going to be preparing for 539 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 5: gun seasons, so they're going to be out this weekend 540 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 5: putting up their stands, like doing their last minute stuff, right, 541 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 5: because I've literally hunted a couple of these places like 542 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 5: this week in particular, and had people walk in on 543 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: me where I hadn't seen a soul in there the 544 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: rest of the year, right, And so I'm more so 545 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 5: looking for places that are totally out of the way, 546 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 5: and it might even be places where I look at 547 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 5: and go it's probably not that great, but there's not 548 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 5: going to be people, right, And so my first kind 549 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 5: of criteria is just don't be near people and then 550 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 5: figure out what the deer situation is is from there, 551 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 5: because otherwise, you know, I'm going to have no deer 552 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 5: end people, which is just a recipe for you know, frustration, 553 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 5: a terrible weekend. 554 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of frustration. So looking here at 555 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: the advanced weather forecast, you know, looking for this upcoming 556 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: week scale one to ten, ten being best week of 557 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: the year. There was we had some ten and I'll 558 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: be curious if we have more tents we have throughout 559 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: the remainder of the season. Refresh, But one to ten, 560 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: where do you put the next week at and I'll 561 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 1: give you a second look at the weather. Here we 562 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: do here, NOLLOI. We actually we do have some some 563 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: we have a good front rolling in. Yeah, the day 564 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: this this goes live. So I'm sure you guys gonna 565 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: be a day probably a day after that. 566 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say it's probably like 567 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 5: a A seven, Okay, a seven. 568 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: I'll say that's optimistic seven or six. Yeah. The only 569 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 4: reason being is that we have some days. 570 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 5: It looks looks like we're going to have some highs 571 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 5: where it's not going to get out of the forties. 572 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 5: But we do have some stuff like going into next 573 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 5: week where it is going to get like touch sixties. 574 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: That's not great. But if I look at the very last. 575 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 5: Day of the ten day forecast, it's a forty one 576 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 5: and twenty eight for high and low with a chance 577 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 5: of some snow, right, and so so we're gonna have 578 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 5: some decent days in there mixed with some like not 579 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 5: great days. So that's why I'm giving it kind of 580 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 5: like a six seven. I think the decent days could 581 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 5: be good. The days that aren't going to be great 582 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 5: aren't going to be good. You know, so kind of 583 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 5: balance this out, which was like ten, but but but 584 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 5: we're gonna go six or seven. 585 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: We got to be realistic too. But I think that 586 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: gives everyone a game plan on what you're doing. And 587 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: I think there's some really good tangible pieces of of 588 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: a vice for the approach. And is there one last 589 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: thing that you would tell someone It could be It 590 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: could be anything, and we'll leave them with that. 591 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 592 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I think you know, this time of year, 593 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 5: if you don't feel like you're you're if you feel 594 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 5: like you're not in them, You're not alone. There's a 595 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 5: lot of people who ain't in them, you know. So 596 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: that's the one thing. And then don't throw the season 597 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 5: away necessarily, but you know, start thinking about things for 598 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 5: next year. Also, like even if you like say like 599 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 5: for me, for example, I have a lot of pressure 600 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 5: in my state gun seasons getting ready to open, you know, 601 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go hunt a spot that admittedly I 602 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 5: had an opportunity to shoot her in October, so I'm 603 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: going to kind of go back there, but I haven't 604 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 5: been able to hunt this spot a. 605 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 4: Whole lot just historically. 606 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 5: It was kind of a newer spot to me, so 607 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 5: part of it is like, yeah, I think it's a 608 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 5: good opportunity I can get away from people. But also 609 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 5: it's like, man, I can grab some intel, right, I 610 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 5: can kind of figure out how it hunts. I can 611 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 5: kind of figure out what the wind is going to 612 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 5: do with the thermals are. 613 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: Going to do that. 614 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 5: Way, when I go to hunt it next year, I 615 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 5: have a little bit more data, right, So I try 616 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 5: to use some of these hunts where where the season 617 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 5: gets tough and have the silver lining be Man, It's 618 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 5: just part of the learning process and I'm either going 619 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 5: to fill a tag or I'm going to learn something today, 620 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: and that's kind of my approach. 621 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: I love it, well, Clint, I appreciate it. Everyone go 622 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: fallow along with the remainder of your season over at 623 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: truth from the stand. Appreciate it. 624 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: Appreciate it, buddy. 625 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: All right, we have Christopher with mobile Hunter. How are 626 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: we doing pretty good? 627 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: How about yourself? 628 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: We're doing great. It's we're on the bottom of the 629 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: ninth year in November, and there's a lot of guys 630 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: that probably are a little nervous, a little anxious with 631 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: maybe how their season has gone up to this point. 632 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: Maybe they had an opportunity that didn't go together, or 633 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: maybe they're still chasing a ghost or what seems like 634 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: a ghost. How how has the activity been here in 635 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: the last seven days for you, whether it's from camera 636 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: scouting or anything else. 637 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: It's been pretty good. 638 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 6: Cameras have been fairly good about seven days ago or so, 639 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 6: and in the last few they've kind of cut, you know, 640 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 6: trickled down a little bit. But I am seeing more 641 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 6: scraping happening now, so we're we're starting to trickle back 642 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 6: to that. 643 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's it's the chaos is over and 644 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: now it's uh, you know, maybe just getting a little 645 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: bit more into maybe more controlled environment, maybe not, but 646 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, I guess that's that's up for debate. But 647 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: as far as kind of looking here in the next 648 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: seven days, will you like you'll be hunting in Ohio? 649 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: And does when does your guys firearm season start? 650 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 6: Firearms season starts here in Ohio, Uh, not tomorrow, but 651 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 6: the next Monday, December one through seventh, and so I'll 652 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 6: actually be hunting here in Kentucky. 653 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: I still have my tag. 654 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: There as well. 655 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so opening day in Ohio December first, what's your 656 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: tentative strategy right now, Like, do you have a tentative 657 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: game plan? 658 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 6: Opening Day is going to be kind of tricky because 659 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 6: they're calling for rain Monday and Tuesday and into Wednesday. 660 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 6: So opening day might be out if it's a wash, 661 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 6: but if it's if it's just going to be light, 662 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 6: I'm going to be sitting where I've got one headed 663 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 6: up out of a drainage back to bed on private, 664 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 6: so I'll be looking to cut him off with a gun, 665 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 6: of course, so I get to it's gonna be a 666 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 6: little easier to play that win. 667 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's certainly one of the benefits of 668 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: having firearm season year. Yes, a lot more forgiving of 669 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: a situation and set up than you don't have to 670 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: be right on top of them. As far as looking, 671 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: let's say for the back part of that that you know, 672 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: a couple of days of that first season opening, a 673 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: couple of days obviously, as soon as those guns go off, 674 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: it seems like things are constantly changing. There's a lot 675 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: of unknown pressure. I mean, there's just a lot of 676 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: chaos in the woods. With that being said, are you 677 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: just still trying to hunt traditional deer movement for the 678 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: most part, or are you trying to factor in pressure 679 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: that maybe hadn't been there, you know, this week for example. 680 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean after opening day of GUN, I'm pretty 681 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 6: much gonna be relying on heavy cover. I still think 682 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 6: that there's plenty of good movement that we don't see 683 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 6: from the bigger deer this upcoming week of Thanksgiving and 684 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 6: then into Gun and so you know, I really think 685 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 6: that you've got to be where they're gonna be though, 686 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 6: like always right, and that's going to be in the thickest, 687 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 6: nastiest stuff because they're going to be looking to get 688 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 6: away from body. 689 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's really good advice from the perspective 690 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: of go where there's not pressure and good cover or 691 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: less pressure and good cover is kind of what your 692 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: strategy is. As far as for Kentucky for example, if 693 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: you buzz down in Kentucky, we're on the We're I always, 694 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: I always feel hesitant to categorize you know, the rut 695 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: in general, but you can call it post r you 696 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: call it the back end of the bell curve for sure. 697 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: But going to Kentucky for example, what would be you know, 698 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: top of mind for trying to get set up on 699 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: a target deer with a lot of like it's this, 700 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: We're in an awkward transition of the season, is how 701 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: I look at it. 702 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 6: It is very awkward, and it is very difficult in 703 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 6: Kentucky because literally minutes ago, well I guess I shouldn't 704 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 6: speak in time, but Kentucky rifle season has ended. So 705 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 6: now we're looking at a bunch of highly pressured deer. 706 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 6: But today I had a gorgeous mid forties ten point 707 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 6: at two forty five pm cruising around in a hub 708 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 6: like they're they're still doing it man. And so for me, 709 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 6: I'm going to be set up fairly close to that 710 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 6: hub scrape where I can get into cover because that's 711 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 6: probably where he's gonna ultimately be, and I'll be playing 712 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 6: the leeward side of a hill more than likely, where 713 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 6: he can cruise within cover and do his thing without 714 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 6: you know, worry of getting killed. Hopefully I can change that. 715 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 6: And then of course, you know, looking for ladies. 716 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and when you say hubs, just for people 717 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: that maybe are super familiar with that with that terminology. 718 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: When I picture a hub, I picture a hub like 719 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: towards the bottom or sense pulling down into Is that okay? 720 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: Is that kind of how that setup is. 721 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and that's so not to go too nerdy 722 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 6: on you, but that's only going to play out if 723 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 6: I have a lighter wind. If we've got high wins, 724 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 6: they will suck and blow into every part of that hub. 725 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 6: Then you can imagine and you're just gonna blow everything 726 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 6: out of it. So I'm looking for, like, you know, 727 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 6: no higher than a seven or eight mile an hour 728 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 6: wind during the day, and then I'm looking forward to 729 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 6: drop off the table that last ninety minutes a lighter 730 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 6: so that way they're playing the thermal game the whole 731 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 6: way through. 732 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: What's your you know, I feel like it's always that 733 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: it's interesting because the October, you know, hunting mornings in 734 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: October hot hot button debate by many folks, and I 735 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: feel like we're probably creeping into maybe not quite yet, 736 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: but we're getting closer to the debate of hunting in 737 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: the mornings in December for example, or the very back 738 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: part of November. Where do you stand on that? 739 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 6: So with a gun, it's a no brainer to me, 740 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 6: because you got to have time in the stand. If 741 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 6: you can cover ground, do it with a bow. I 742 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 6: think it's very situational. But at the end of the day. 743 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 6: Let's say you've got a you know, a west facing hillside, 744 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 6: west facing. 745 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 4: Hub something like that. 746 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 6: You're you're talking about a completely different uh, you know, 747 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 6: thermal game on that side of the mountain than you 748 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 6: are on the eastern side where the sun's coming up, 749 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 6: so the deer might favor that side. The other thing 750 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 6: to take into account here is once you get a 751 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 6: week or two past gun season. You know, while this 752 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 6: is a very awkward time, there's a couple of really 753 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 6: good things that are going on here. One, all the 754 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 6: babies are going to go home and they're gonna quit, 755 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 6: so you're gonna have way less people in the woods after, 756 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 6: you know, the next week or so two weeks, depending 757 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 6: on what state I'm in Kentucky, I'll probably not see 758 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 6: a human being unless it's muzzleloader season, right. So the 759 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 6: other cool thing that's going to happen is we're going 760 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 6: to have some of those late dropping reds, you know, 761 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 6: throwing acorns, and you're gonna be talking about a southern 762 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 6: aisle feed tree situation going on. 763 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: Hmm, that's an awesome point. What about for someone that's 764 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: struggling and maybe maybe there's season because a lot of 765 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: a lot of the Midwest states. Their firearm seasons have 766 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: already been in effect here, and you know, obviously the 767 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: deer have been pressured, and you don't want to be 768 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: pressuring deer as well. But do you want to get 769 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: permission people permission to go and do some scouting and 770 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: try to find the spot where they need to be 771 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: or are you. 772 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, you have I shouldn't say you have to scout. 773 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 6: You know, there's no blanket statement that really I could 774 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 6: lay down for anything, But I just feel like scouting 775 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 6: is so important and going in there and finding whether 776 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 6: it be feed sign or you know, right now we're 777 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 6: going to be headed back to food to bed and 778 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 6: you're going to find a lot of deer sign that 779 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 6: won't be rut based, but it'll be super super important. 780 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 6: And the best thing you could find, especially this time 781 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 6: year with all the moisture on the ground, is a 782 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 6: big track. You go cut a big track. That's enough. 783 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 6: If you can glass or something from there. 784 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: Do that. 785 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 6: It's okay to play it a little safe, but don't 786 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 6: just stay out. In my opinion, just because I feel 787 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 6: like scouting is always going to be king and I'd 788 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 6: rather go out swinging and blow him out and let 789 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 6: him come back, because at the end of the day, 790 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 6: we know that if a buck is in a certain area, 791 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 6: he's there because it works, and he's probably there this 792 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 6: time of year every single year, and he's doing that 793 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 6: because it works. So I'm gonna go in there one time. 794 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 6: I might hang cameras, I might not, but we're gonna 795 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 6: go in there, find the food, maybe try to cut 796 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 6: a big track, some big scat or something. And you know, 797 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 6: if we're lucky enough to find a good scrape or 798 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 6: any kind of buck sign, great, But the best thing 799 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 6: you could do is cut a big track and then 800 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 6: you know, find him in a CRP fee standing beanfield, 801 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 6: cornfit whatever wherever the food is, or on a ridge 802 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 6: and glass him up and you have everything you could 803 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 6: ever want. 804 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, all right. So next seven days, 805 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week, we flip the calendar into December on a 806 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: scale one to ten, ten being the best week of 807 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: the year, one being one of the worst weeks of 808 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: the year. What do you think the deer potential activity, 809 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, will be from one to ten, 810 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: ten being the best. 811 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 6: And we're talking about the week after Thanksgiving. 812 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: We're talking November twenty fourth or fifth to or excuse me, 813 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: the twenty sixth to December third. 814 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 4: For big deer. 815 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 6: I'm going to go at least. 816 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 4: I'm going to go in eight point five. Man, some of. 817 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 6: The biggest deer get killed, you know, right right in 818 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 6: the week of Thanksgiving, the first few days a gun 819 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 6: week here in Ohio. 820 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 4: So I'm going to say in eight point five. 821 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: All right, I like it. Well, good luck to you 822 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: Christopher in Ohio and Kentucky, and hopefully conditions cooperate for 823 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: the Buckeye State. If people want to follow along with 824 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: what you have going on, where's the best place to 825 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: do that? 826 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 6: You can just check out the man, there's like a 827 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 6: million different platforms. 828 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 3: Now. 829 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 6: We've got the Mobile Hunter podcast and the Mobile Hunters 830 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 6: x BO. Those are the two best places to follow 831 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 6: along with what we got going on. And as always, man, 832 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 6: I really appreciate it. 833 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: Brother. 834 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: All right, thank you so much, good luck, thank you 835 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 1: all right everyone there, you guys have it. I hope 836 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: you guys have an awesome Thanksgiving. Get to enjoy it 837 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: with family and friends. Maybe you get to go outside, 838 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: do a little scouting, do some readjustments, maybe do some hunting. 839 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: But I hope you have an awesome, awesome Thanksgiving and 840 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: a safe firearm season. If you're going to be listening 841 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: to this for the Ohio Opener, that is it. We 842 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: will see you next week and the calendar will be 843 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: December zem