1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Oh, wake you up? 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, thats up program? 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 3: Your alarmed the power one oh five point one on iHeartRadio. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: This is your time to get it off your chest. 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: Eight hundred and five eighty five one O five one. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 4: Hello, who's this? 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 5: Oh man? 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 6: Here y'all go with this? Hey't envy all y'all doing? 10 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 6: Hey everybody? 11 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 7: Why bless y'all, love y'all, Good morning, everybody to morning. 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 6: Okay, first of. 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 7: All, lady, let our y'all, y'all do a good job. 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 7: We love y'all out here in the d Okay, I 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 7: want to I want to make sure we say all 16 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 7: at first. 17 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 8: Thank you baby. 18 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 6: It's not for y'all. 19 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 7: My cousin's taking me to kill. They're trying to make 20 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 7: this for the three US. 21 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 6: Shy of man, your black ball head ache. 22 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 7: You just put our cousin on that goddamn. 23 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 6: Dump you O to day yesterday everything gave funny man. 24 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 7: You love our kids down here. You ain't even had 25 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 7: a right make right before you. 26 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 6: Get going on there? You do the effen. Everybody told 27 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 6: me Bridge don't say that, because you know he talking 28 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 6: about everybody. I don't give a man. Now you talking 29 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 6: about people coming. We don't like that. 30 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 7: Everything ain't funny, especially when it come to these kids, 31 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 7: man and a black man. 32 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 6: I'm mad at him. And did it to a black. 33 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 7: Man that really with his kids and a white environment 34 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 7: that you don't even know about. 35 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 6: Stop doing that, man, what happened? 36 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 8: We would have get Donkey to yesterday David Scott Jr. 37 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 8: Forty three years old. 38 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 9: He allegedly, uh said, told the teacher on ed his 39 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 9: bitch out, and so he got. 40 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 8: Arrested, y'all. 41 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 6: And he didn't say that. 42 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 9: Well, I said, I said during Donkey today. I don't 43 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 9: know if he said that or not, but what I 44 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 9: said was he clearly said something that led to his arrest, 45 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 9: and then I gave other ways for him to possibly 46 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 9: handle the situation, like calmly request the meeting, request a 47 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 9: meeting with the teacher at the school administration. 48 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 6: L Man, I gotta stop you, bro. 49 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 10: They did. 50 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. All those things. 51 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 7: You didn't even exect the story play out the meet. 52 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 7: You know how the media is just like they did. 53 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 7: Hear when they went and interviewed the mother. They didn't 54 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 7: playing the whole cliff is for show the evidence that 55 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 7: she had about how they went to the school, how 56 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 7: they were talking to the. 57 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 6: Principal while I'm calling. 58 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 8: I didn't see that on the clip. I watched the 59 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 8: whole clip. I didn't on the. 60 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 7: Listen, I know you didn't because his brother called it. 61 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 6: Check the lady about that. That's what I'm telling you. 62 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 6: If it was like that, man, will nobody even saying nothing, 63 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 6: but let me tell you something, what we're not gonna do. 64 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 6: It's been a mass and come over the brothers. That's 65 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 6: really out here, that man with his kids every day? 66 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 8: Did you hear me? Did you hear me say? 67 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 9: I can understand the brother feeling the way he felt, 68 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 9: but there's other ways the hands of the situation. 69 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, but I want to try to know that. Listen, 70 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 6: he got he don't have these things like that. 71 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 7: When they saying that's like a different type of environment, 72 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 7: y'all got people places like that in New York. 73 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 8: What you mean different type of environment? Like, tell me 74 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 8: what are you talking about? What do you mean? 75 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: Right? 76 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 6: Okay? So that they staying the place called eats going 77 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 6: yeah over there really. 78 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 11: With the breadth, like you know what. 79 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 6: I'm saying, like Detroit is that's not Detroit over there, so. 80 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: It's a. 81 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 12: Mountain and the white air and the white area. Don't 82 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 12: mess with the black people over there. 83 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, not really, not really. You know what I'm saying 84 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 6: that you move over there, that's like anywhere you go. 85 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 6: If you move on the block and it's just just 86 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 6: a fad. 87 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, you won't be neighbors and 88 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 7: you won't give along with people with that area of town. 89 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: On me. 90 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 6: Survived over there or he's been. 91 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 7: Over there and they never had a problem from where 92 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 7: he come from. See my cousin a law man. 93 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 6: He a good guy. Bro. If it wasn't coming now, 94 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 6: I wouldn't have said nothing. 95 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Hold On man. 96 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 7: Said that he comes from good stop, good family. 97 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 6: He's a good brother. 98 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 8: Nobody said. Nobody said he's not. 99 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 9: All I simply said was there's other ways to handle 100 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 9: the situation. 101 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 6: And we and he's tried. 102 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 13: Bro. 103 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 6: I want you to say that you can investigate, but 104 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 6: you bring like that mess. 105 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 9: So he didn't say he didn't say nothing bad to 106 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 9: the teacher whatsoever. 107 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 6: We ain't gonna say. 108 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 7: He ain't say nothing that he ain't take no kids, bro. 109 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 9: And that's talking about By the way, I want you 110 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 9: to go back and listen to the dog as day. 111 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 9: And I specifically said, I don't know whether he said 112 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 9: and is beyond. 113 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 6: I wouldn't listen. 114 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 8: Arrested. Yes, ma'am, y. 115 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 7: You like I tow everybody else, Yes, man, because they 116 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 7: did it. 117 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, tryna main't do this all the time. He talking 118 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 6: about everybody. Let me take this. I don't listen to 119 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 6: that because I know it's fun, it's entertainment. I'm gonna 120 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 6: tell you like this. We are black man. Our family 121 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 6: love each other, we. 122 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 7: Love our kids. 123 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 6: We don't even play games like that. So anybody go 124 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 6: look at any anything. 125 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 7: Down here on these face looking know that what everybody's 126 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 7: saying about that. 127 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 6: He ain't even like that. Yes, many carry that took 128 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 6: ran with it. But please don't ever put no image 129 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 6: of our family like I was like that. Bro, we 130 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 6: don't do that. 131 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 7: That's all I got to say, y'all, Envy, you know 132 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 7: we put down here. 133 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 14: You know you got that, yes, ma'am. 134 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 8: All y'all, now, let the moral of the stories show that. 135 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 9: Let the moral of the story be that I understand 136 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 9: everything that she's saying. But as I said, you can't 137 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 9: go down to the school. Whether he said, ed is 138 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 9: be out or not. Whatever he said caused them people 139 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 9: to call the police and he got arrested. So there's 140 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 9: other ways to handle the situation. Request the meeting with 141 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 9: the teacher of the school administration. Okay, gather more information 142 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 9: and see what their policy is in regards to the 143 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 9: next She. 144 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 12: Said, they did all that, she said, but. 145 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 8: She also said that she can't say that he ain't 146 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 8: say nothing. 147 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: Okay, that's my cousin. 148 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 8: I get it, I get it, I get it. 149 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 12: Okay, I get thank you, first lady, First lady, if 150 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 12: you need another cousin, I'll be your cousin. 151 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: She woke up early in the morning last morning. 152 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 8: That's great. That's don't mean she's right. I didn't say that. 153 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 9: I just said because, as I said yesterday, smart people 154 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 9: learn from their own mistakes. Why people learn from the 155 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 9: mistakes of others. We got to learn from situations like 156 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 9: David Scott Junior. And I'm sorry that brother is in 157 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 9: the situation that he's in, but we know that we 158 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 9: just can't handle, you know, things in that way, especially 159 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 9: being that he's a black man dealing with them white people. 160 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 8: That she said that probably prejudice. 161 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 12: Yes, all right, let's look to the whole detray, what 162 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 12: up dough out there? All right, get it off your chest? 163 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 12: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If 164 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 12: you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the 165 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 12: Breakfast Club. 166 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 8: Good morning, it's a new day. 167 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: Is your time to get it off your chest. Whether 168 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: you're man. 169 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 8: Or black, something to get up and get something. 170 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: Call up now. Eight hundred five eight five one o 171 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: five one. We want to hear from you on the 172 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: Breakfast Club. 173 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 8: Hello. 174 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 5: Who is this? 175 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 11: Yeah, this is trouble Trevor your chest, Trevor, Oh yeah, 176 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 11: like my thing is, you know, I want to put 177 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 11: it out there, mag of, mag Of. We don't have 178 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 11: no fracture in a maga party. It's no fracture. That's 179 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 11: a false narrative of yes, sir, okay all day. Yeah, 180 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 11: So it's no fracture in a maga party. And also 181 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 11: I want to state this because you know, I sit 182 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 11: back and listen and I heard this this, this, this 183 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 11: thing about Trump, this Trump that. But I want to 184 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 11: say like this, Charla Man, I don't care bro, you know, no, No, 185 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 11: I want. 186 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 8: To say this. 187 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 11: Remember when Joe Biden told you at the end of 188 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 11: that podcast, if you don't vote for him, you ain't black. 189 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I do. 190 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 8: That's something of the. 191 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 11: Most disrespectful stuff that just want to talk about white 192 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 11: people racist. That's one of the most racist things that 193 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 11: an old white man can tell a black man. If 194 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 11: you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Trump. Trump 195 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 11: is one of the best presidents outside of Abraham Lincoln 196 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 11: that's in that chair. 197 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: You know. 198 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 8: I mean, it's false and this false narrative. 199 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 11: I'm not about no though, but but like you remember 200 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 11: when Joe Biden told. 201 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 9: You that though right, I was he said to me. 202 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 11: I said nothing negative, but said nothing negative about. 203 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 8: That about who about Joe Biden? 204 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, the most disrespectful stuff. And he told you to 205 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 11: see your face on your podcast if. 206 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 8: You don't vote him. 207 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 11: So basically he's saying, but that's. 208 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 8: That's not true. 209 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 11: You know where you're supposed to stand as a black man. 210 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 8: That what he told you? 211 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 9: Yes, And I watched, yes, And as I told him 212 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 9: in that moment, you know, it's not about me being black. 213 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 9: It's about me wanting something from my people. So, I mean, 214 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 9: that was that was the common. 215 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 11: But had Trump but but had Trump said something like that, 216 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 11: it would have exploded. 217 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 8: But but outside of outside. 218 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 11: I would have said to that news lady, I want 219 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 11: to get to that news report. Yeah, she got to 220 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 11: report the real storage like because like she got a narrative, 221 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 11: like like she reported and she got that little narrative, 222 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 11: that negative narrative about the king about it's done. 223 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 9: You know my brother, my brother, No, no, no, no, don't 224 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 9: hang up on it. It is a good conversation. There 225 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 9: is no way that you could. 226 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 11: I've been knowing about Trump. I've been knowing about Trump 227 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 11: since the eighties. Man, I come up in the inner 228 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 11: city all my life. I've been knowing about Trump since 229 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 11: the eighties. 230 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 9: If you knew about Trump since the eighties, you'd have 231 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 9: a whole anyway, I'm not even had that conversation. 232 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 8: This is what I will say. 233 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 9: It's it's impossible for you to be objective about Donald 234 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 9: Trump because you just called that man king and don 235 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 9: like I don't know why. 236 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 8: So anything that you. 237 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 11: Hear because like I know it's gonna trigger, because I 238 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 11: know it's gonna trigger. 239 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, and don't trigger me. 240 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: I just don't. 241 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 9: I just know I can't have an objective conversation with 242 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 9: you about. 243 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 11: But you have a good but also I just want 244 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 11: to say this though, if y'all can go back and 245 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 11: look at it, look at the interview with Oprah Winford 246 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 11: back in the mid eighties when Oprah when open Header 247 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 11: Store is Chicago. She used to have Donald Trump on 248 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 11: this Shirwater time. She always used to ask Trump about 249 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 11: running for president. You know, Jeff said, Jackson, you looked 250 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 11: out for Jackson Jackson home girl from the like you 251 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 11: did that movie with Beyonce on what's her name? Like 252 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 11: the singer the Black Girl whom, Yeah, Jennifer Hudson prompt 253 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 11: took her in after that incident happened with her family 254 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 11: with Michael Jackson. 255 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 8: I never heard that, Michael, you never heard of that. 256 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 9: No, but listen, bro, you gotta get off your knees. Man, 257 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 9: you call it that white man the King. 258 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 8: This morning laze and the glade is crazy. 259 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 9: The Krispy Kreme around your lips right now is ridiculous. 260 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 9: And I'm not if that's your opinion. That's your opinion, 261 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 9: but god damn, you can't even be objective and have 262 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 9: an objective conversation with somebody like that. If you refer 263 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 9: to your president as a king, act, that's ridiculous. That is, 264 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 9: you should never refer to no elected official as a king. 265 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: Bro. 266 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: All right, get it off your chest. 267 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 12: Eight hundred and five eight five one oh five one. 268 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 12: If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's 269 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 12: the Breakfast Club. 270 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: Good morning, warning everybody, it's DJ n V Jess Hilarious, 271 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: Charlamage the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got 272 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: a special guest in the building. 273 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 8: Yes, sir, that Gerbo. 274 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 12: Welcome the morning and congratulations man the number one record 275 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 12: a couple of weeks ago, grass Man. 276 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm good. I'm good. I'm glad to be here. 277 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: I do feel number one record. 278 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 8: I feel good. I'm not gonna lie. 279 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: I feel great. 280 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 8: It feel great. 281 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 15: I'll just be trying to like stay in the moment 282 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 15: real just just keep it like up you know, like 283 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 15: when you where you got those type of moments you 284 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 15: just trying to figure out like all right, well I 285 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 15: me personally, like I gotta figure out what's the next 286 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 15: best thing, Like what do I do next? 287 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: From that? 288 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 15: Like I try to live in a moment and grasp 289 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 15: up that energy, but just keep it going, like not 290 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 15: trying to catch another number one. 291 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to keep it going. 292 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 12: Did you expect that to be the record because it's 293 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 12: not your typical course. 294 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 15: Well, it was just you just spitting Nah, hell no, 295 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 15: for sure. I was just literally I can't say it enough. 296 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 15: It was just me just having fun in the studio. 297 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 15: I was in New York and was in the studio 298 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 15: me south Side smack and you know south Side Like 299 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 15: I really, I'd be having to give a lot of 300 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 15: credit to Big Bro because he want the only people 301 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 15: that could tell me, like, rap on this, just rap 302 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 15: on this and figure it out, like just rap. And 303 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 15: that's what I did, and that that changed my life. 304 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 8: As a single. 305 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 12: Who picked it as a single? Like was it just 306 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 12: I'm just gonna release and see what happened? And it 307 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 12: just took over. 308 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 309 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 15: That's why I like, as artists, you gotta like really 310 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 15: just bet on yourself for real, for real, because I 311 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 15: was in a mold of just trying to do music 312 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 15: and see what the streets connected to. I didn't even 313 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 15: like that song came out in December on my app. 314 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 15: I got an app on my own app, like where 315 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 15: I just put out music material content. All this is 316 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 15: just for the people who really support me, Like you 317 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 15: know what, I'm saying, my fans, they know about the 318 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 15: Gebo app. I put it out on my app on 319 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 15: a project that I was just recording all samples too, 320 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 15: Like I did a project with all simples and it 321 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 15: couldn't even go on Apple Music. It couldn't go on DSPs. 322 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 323 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 15: Like I put it out on the app in December 324 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 15: and the label put it out on DSPs and like 325 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 15: March April. 326 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 4: So it's like, you gotta just try to see what the. 327 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 10: Streets congratulations on your appreciate it. 328 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 8: Has it changed the bag? Has that single changed your bag? 329 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 330 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 9: Because I'll be thinking that, you know a lot of 331 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 9: people be fronting on like the power of radio and 332 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 9: having a big radio record speak to that man. 333 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: For sure. 334 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 15: I've always been like I knew because I've been independent 335 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 15: this whole time, So I know about like analytics, I 336 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 15: know about like residuals, I know what, like one record 337 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 15: could really change your life, you know what I'm saying. Like, 338 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 15: and I finally caught that record that like that life 339 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 15: changing records, So yeah, the bag been crazy. 340 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 8: The royalties from radio are better than the streaming. 341 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely for sure. 342 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 15: And it's like once you. Once you get a song 343 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 15: that really go radio, it's like it's just like it 344 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 15: just changed everything real change the places you actually perform 345 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 15: at for sure, exactly like you could put you could 346 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 15: put you put money in radio for sure for what 347 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 15: to do what it's supposed to do. But just like 348 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 15: even like it's a different between like putting something in 349 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 15: radio for just get on the radio again, like rhythmic 350 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 15: play playlist, you know what I'm saying, Like all of that, 351 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 15: it's just a big super difference. Like I be talking 352 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 15: to like Make all the time. It's just like once 353 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 15: you get a record, like I'm not even talking about 354 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 15: what legit like there's certain records that like the format 355 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 15: where you know it could go radio, you know what 356 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 15: I'm saying, Like I feel like every artist, all you 357 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 15: need is like one radio record a year, just one, Like. 358 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: You fee what I'm saying. 359 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: It ain't that easy to get one. It's not easy 360 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: at all. 361 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 15: But like you know, hit Maker, that's my big brother, 362 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 15: Like he the god of this, Like you feel what 363 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 15: I'm saying, Like he know the whole formal he do 364 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 15: it like and that's why he's so rich, Like that 365 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 15: riches because he on radio every year at. 366 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: Least point it out right for sure, Willow Herb. 367 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 15: I was just trying to like tap into like that 368 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 15: old hunger, like my old self. And when I be 369 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 15: rapping good and like I be reading the comments, sometime 370 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 15: my fans be like, oh that ain't they Ain't you 371 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 15: heard what? That's a little herd, you know what I'm saying. 372 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 15: I feel like that was like one of my best 373 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 15: eras of rap. Like I always been able to rap. 374 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 15: I'm an EMC, so it's like I don't care if 375 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 15: I'm not even all the way tapped into like my 376 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 15: confidence and all this. I'm always gonna be able to 377 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 15: rap good, you feel me. But like once you really 378 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 15: focus on straight rap, it's different. And that's what I 379 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 15: was trying to do. So that's why I went and 380 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 15: like name my album Little Herb. Like I was going 381 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 15: up like listening to old interviews, listening to old music 382 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 15: videos and I mean watch old music videos, listen to 383 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 15: old songsing like that, and like I was just trying 384 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 15: to find like a higher level of rap for myself, 385 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying. And I say this all 386 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 15: the time, like you could really get caught up and 387 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 15: what's in front of you, like always been the type 388 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 15: of person Like I say this a lot a lot 389 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 15: of rooms that I was in, I wasn't really in 390 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 15: the rooms, you know what I'm saying, because I'm thinking 391 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 15: about like my past. I'm thinking about what I gotta 392 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 15: do when I get out the room. Like I'm just saying, 393 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 15: what's up, Like there's certain conversations that I really couldn't 394 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 15: have because my mind is all over the place. 395 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: You feel me, like so like. 396 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 15: In this era where I am mentally, I was just 397 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 15: trying to like find that old hunger that made me 398 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 15: enjoy what. 399 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: I have now, Like you know what I'm saying, Like. 400 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 15: Like that's that's why I really named my project Little Herb, 401 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 15: because like you were, like on the day to day, 402 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 15: I'm thirty years old. I've been rapping since I was 403 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 15: like sixteen for real, for real, Like you feel me, 404 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 15: and I was trying to figure out like damn, like 405 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 15: all the steps to that it took me to get here. 406 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, Like I forgot to lie. 407 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. 408 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 15: It's a lot of that idea that I forgot. So 409 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 15: it's like I wanted to make myself remember so I 410 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 15: had to like go back in and like tap in 411 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 15: with my old self for real. 412 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 9: I heard you say, Little Herb is a full circle 413 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 9: moment and it's a return to the fundamentals. But you 414 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 9: closing the chapter on the Little Herb? What is closing 415 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 9: that chapter to actually look like? 416 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 15: Closing that chapter is like for real, just letting go, 417 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 15: Like there's a lot of held on to that I 418 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 15: just don't need no more, like for real, for real, 419 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 15: like the street therapy right there, just letting go for 420 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 15: real real, and it is, it is definitely therapy that 421 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 15: helped me. 422 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: It's like a lot of that you hold on to 423 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 4: you just like just let it go, just let it 424 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: go and just let. 425 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 15: It find you, you know what I'm saying, Like, no, 426 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 15: for real, Like I was one of the people that 427 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 15: just like my heart is so big, and I feel 428 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 15: like people knew that, Like people knew that. 429 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: Like they grabbed me, and I'm grabbing them back. 430 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 15: You fee what I'm saying, Like I'm holding on to 431 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 15: that type of It's like that's just letting that chapter go. 432 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 15: Like and people been saying this to me for years 433 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 15: and I've been knowing it, but I never really acted 434 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 15: on it, Like I shouldn't focus on nothing but music 435 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 15: and my family and like God, like that's the only 436 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 15: thing that I should wake up and care about. I 437 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 15: shouldn't really give a fuck about how somebody else eat 438 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 15: or how somebody else get the work or get the 439 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 15: sleep of any of that are not worried about that 440 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 15: for years. Like let's be closing that chapter, like I'm 441 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 15: gonna tap into this, tell my story. 442 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 4: And just let go, let go and let God for real, 443 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 4: for and that go for everything and everybody. 444 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 15: And it's a whole nother chapter opening for me because 445 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 15: everything that got me here. 446 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: I don't. 447 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 15: I don't even really have it no more, for real 448 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 15: real like all my friends dead. I'm finna be a real, 449 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 15: one hundred percent independent artist, Like I don't got no label, 450 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 15: no production company. I'm one hundred percent a real new 451 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 15: person and a new artist. So it's like I just 452 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 15: want to just tap into this do what I need 453 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 15: to do, and I'm already doing it for real, but 454 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 15: just like letting go for real, like I don't. I 455 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 15: don't want to have no attachments other than family, no book. 456 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 12: You're talking about changing your life, right, he was your inspiration? 457 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 12: Break that down to what you see to Meet that 458 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 12: made you think that you can do it. 459 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 15: I just got done listening to We're Gonna get this 460 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 15: money right now on my way here. 461 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 4: Meek is my. 462 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 15: Favorite rapper for real, bro, It's my big better And 463 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 15: I was just with Meek last night. We just did 464 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 15: a song last We was in a studio last night, 465 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 15: I believe. But like I used to listen to Meet 466 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 15: and watch me when he was a battle rapper, but 467 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 15: when he really got rich and made this happen, it's like, 468 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 15: all right, but that like it's different from me watching 469 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 15: like Wayne and whole Man, you know what I'm saying, 470 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 15: Like I couldn't like I could relate to it. But 471 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 15: it's like when I grew up and me I seen 472 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 15: him the rich already. 473 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: I seen Meek. 474 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 15: Turn rich, coming from the streets and going through all 475 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 15: this that he went through and really like talking about 476 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 15: it and preaching like positivity and motivation. 477 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: That made me feel like I just want to be 478 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: like that for real real. 479 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 15: Like that to really like helped me grow into the 480 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 15: artist that I am today, for real real, because like damn, 481 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 15: like it's Meek, Like it's not like he was an 482 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 15: artist and he was like far away you feel what 483 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 15: I'm saying. 484 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 4: I felt like I could grasp on to that and 485 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 4: become that, Like this is. 486 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 15: A real streak that became the biggest in the world. 487 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 15: Like he became the biggest best rat and he's a 488 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 15: rap guy, Like I love rapping. I'm an mc so 489 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 15: I studied that first and foremost. But just a blueprinter 490 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 15: like like he like he gave you the real blueprint, 491 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 15: Like you get on, you take care of you do 492 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 15: what you're supposed to do. You take care of your family, 493 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 15: your mother like that to make me like I just 494 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 15: used to have to just get money to my mama, 495 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 15: just like thinking about that type of you know what 496 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 15: I'm saying, Like I retire my mom when I was 497 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 15: sixteen years old, bro literally and they put a lot 498 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 15: of pressure on me. I told my mama stopped working 499 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 15: when I was sixteen. 500 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 4: She never worked. 501 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 15: Since I been taking care of her, my aunties, my 502 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 15: whole family since I was sixteen. 503 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: That's a lot of pressure. I had a. 504 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: Pressure, a lot of pressure. 505 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 12: Now you're the meat meal for a lot of these 506 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 12: younger artists. So what do you show them to show 507 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 12: them that they can do it? What do you do different? 508 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 12: So because you know, you got a lot of kids 509 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 12: watching me and they want to be Raba for sure. 510 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 15: Like for me, it's I just try to like what's 511 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 15: the word, like, you gotta like show them's like like 512 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 15: what me did for real, like tangible. You just gotta 513 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 15: showing Like I like the thing with me that I 514 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 15: feel like make a difference a lot is I let 515 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 15: people see me in a physical like you gotta see it, 516 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 15: like have conversations like seeing this, believing you feel what 517 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 15: I'm saying, Like you know you could do this when 518 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 15: you could actually get in front of somebody like me. 519 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 15: Growing up, I never seen nobody that I looked up to, 520 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 15: and I wanted to be like in front of me 521 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 15: talking to me. You know what I'm saying, Like I 522 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 15: just had to have a man power, like I could 523 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 15: do it. I'm gonna do it. You feel what I'm saying. 524 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 15: And it happened for me. And when I got a 525 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 15: certain age like nineteen twenty eight, like those ages when 526 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 15: I started traveling and having conversations with people that I 527 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 15: looked up to, But like fourteen fifteen, sixteen, them years 528 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 15: really matter where Like you know what I'm saying, I 529 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 15: try to be the person where I just go back 530 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 15: and do certain things and go touch the community, and 531 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying, tell them that they could 532 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 15: really make it, Like this is nothing for real, Li, 533 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 15: But like you and I ain't gonna say it's nothing 534 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 15: like it's it's a task. 535 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 4: For sure, it's hard, but it's easy at the same time. 536 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 15: All you gotta do is wake up and strive to 537 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 15: go get it and want to do it and believe 538 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 15: that you could do it. You just got to have 539 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 15: a vision, you feel what I'm saying, Like, And and 540 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 15: when I go look at like these kids and be 541 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 15: going to talk and have conversations, like they got the 542 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 15: same power that I got, Like they really got. 543 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: Something in them. They just don't think it's possible. 544 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 15: This is really possible, like they when you wake up 545 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 15: and all you got is this four block radius and 546 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 15: your hood and that you're dealing with every day, you 547 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 15: think that's your life, but it's like it's so much 548 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 15: outside of that. 549 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 4: All you gotta know is how to break that cycle. 550 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 15: And you fee what I'm saying, Like, that's that's the 551 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 15: thing with me, Like I feel like that's what make 552 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 15: a difference in. 553 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: Why people like believe in me because I try. I 554 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: let them touch me. I let them. You know what 555 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Pauls Like, you know what I'm saying. I 556 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 4: go see the people. 557 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 8: I'm thinking about something now. 558 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 9: And you made me think about it when you said 559 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 9: you've been rapping since you was nineteen, because I can 560 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 9: remember like your first six sixteen, I. 561 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 8: Can remember your first early breakfast club interviews. 562 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 6: Right. 563 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 9: But then it started getting me thinking about all of 564 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 9: these artists we've seen from Chicago that have come through 565 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 9: come through here the past fifteen years. You talk about 566 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 9: what's possible. Man, you are proof that's surviving as possible. Yeah, 567 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 9: chief keepers, proof that's surviving. 568 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: Is sure, so so definitely know what I mean. 569 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 9: People like Dirk that's locked up, and people like Bond 570 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 9: that's no longer here, plenty of other artists we probably 571 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 9: interview from Chicago. 572 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 8: How does that feel? 573 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: It feel great? Man? 574 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 15: You know, And I'm gonna say this again, I'm gonna 575 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 15: shall make out real quick because he just told me 576 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 15: the other day, and it feel different. It's a different 577 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 15: feeling than him saying It's like he's like, man, want 578 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 15: you the chosen one. It's certain things that just affect 579 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 15: you differently, you know what I'm saying. And I learned 580 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 15: that from the streets, like I didn't bump my head 581 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 15: so many times and did so much and been arrested 582 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 15: and fell off and came back or whatever the case 583 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 15: may be. 584 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 585 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 15: It's like when you do certain things, God just punish 586 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 15: you differently because you can't get. 587 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: Away with that, you knowe what I'm saying. 588 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 15: Like you would think you would see somebody else doing it, like, 589 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 15: oh he did it, and you can't do that because 590 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 15: God got a different path for you. And surviving in Chicago, 591 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 15: just making it out of the streets alone is a blessing. 592 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 15: Like it's literally like I'd be seeing some of my 593 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 15: homies and certain people that just like but and I 594 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 15: understand it. Other people don't get it, Like it's certain 595 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 15: people where you just like you just like wash your 596 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 15: hands with everything. I know certain that was real menaces 597 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 15: in the streets that don't do nothing but just be 598 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 15: at home with the girl and their kids now because 599 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 15: they just want peace. Like damn, I made it out there. 600 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 15: I can't believe I'm still alive. Like a lot of 601 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 15: people never experience life to that capacity where they just 602 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 15: grateful that they're alive, that they still here, you know 603 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 15: what I'm saying. And it's a lot of people when 604 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 15: it comes surviving, you gotta make decisions and it got 605 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 15: to be calculated. And it's a lot of people that's 606 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 15: just raised off survival or you. 607 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 4: Will do anything. 608 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 15: It's a difference like when you survive and you just 609 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 15: raised off survival. Like I'm trying to explain that with 610 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 15: Like it's certain people where if you just like survival 611 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 15: is your first instinct, you would do anything. 612 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: You would kill your closest friend, you. 613 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 15: A snitch, rob steal from your mama, your grandma, And 614 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 15: you gotta understand this, like it's just life. It's certain 615 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 15: people who don't know nothing else. They was raised off 616 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 15: of survival. They mother and father raised them off of survivals. 617 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 15: So it's like a lot of people don't understand that, 618 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying. It's just me being here today. 619 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 15: I try to like I think that's one of the 620 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 15: reasons why, like I probably got took advantage of so 621 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 15: much because I understand both sides of the fence, and 622 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 15: I try to get everybody the benefit of the doubt. 623 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying, like I try to like 624 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 15: think about putting myself in other people shoot before I 625 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 15: make a decision, you know what I'm saying, Like I 626 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 15: always before I do anything, I always think about the consequences, repercussions, everything. 627 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 4: So if I do. 628 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 15: Something to anybody or do anything, I thought about it 629 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 15: so many times, I'm comfortable with have it play out, 630 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying, And like you like, it's 631 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 15: only certain people that think like that, especially in life 632 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 15: and coming from Chicago, you gotta think about both sides 633 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 15: of the fence. The it's certain people that think a lot, 634 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 15: and it's certain people that don't think at all. You 635 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 15: feel me, And it's a blessing to be here for sure, 636 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 15: for sure, because I've seen a lot. I experienced a lot. 637 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 15: I've seen a lot of death. And I just come 638 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 15: from one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago, like one 639 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 15: of the most poverty struck in neighborhoods. Whereas like I 640 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 15: was a kid and people used to like a lady 641 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 15: walked out. I think I said this before on a 642 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 15: breakfast club interview when I was when I was in short, 643 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 15: like a lady walked up on me. I'm waiting on 644 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 15: my mom. She coming from the laundromat. A lady walked 645 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 15: up on me, like, you got some C. I'm like what. 646 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: I'm like what. She's like, you got some C? 647 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: She asks for crack. I'm like nine years old. 648 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 15: I'm like nineteen, wait on my mama to come in 649 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 15: the house, like you got some See, I'm like what. Yeah, 650 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 15: she asked me if I had cracked literally a kid 651 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 15: three in the morning. I'm outside because that's now your 652 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 15: selling crack for real? 653 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 8: For real? Like when did you get something. 654 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: That's the statute of limitations with this career, like some crack, 655 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: it's a statute of limitations for sure. 656 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 9: That therapeutic was this album in regards to your grieving process, 657 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 9: because I hear you mentioned your brother a lot, especially 658 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 9: on Give It All. 659 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 8: How did that help? 660 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie that I've been dealing with def sis. 661 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 15: I was a kid, bro like I lost I started 662 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 15: losing friends when I was like fourteen years old, you know, like, 663 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 15: and I'm talking about that, I'm touching on that my 664 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 15: and my my project, but you got to really like realize, 665 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 15: I'm thirty years ars old. 666 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 4: I've been losing people. 667 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 15: I love for fifteen years and still managing to wake 668 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 15: up and make it happen and beg herbo and take 669 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 15: pictures and smile for the fans, Like I really didn't 670 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 15: lost some of my best friends and had to go 671 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 15: do a show that same day. You feel what I'm saying, 672 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 15: Like my homie Cap died twenty fifteen, I had to 673 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 15: perform in front of ten thousand people. I just had 674 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 15: to find an emmy. A lot of people can't do that. 675 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 15: A lot of people like man, I just lost my 676 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 15: homie fishing to go spind like I wanted to go 677 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 15: do the show. So it's like, I feel like I'm 678 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 15: really destined for this. Chose my own destiny. I chose 679 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 15: my own path. And I'm saying that like for me, 680 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 15: they experience all of that death and feel like I 681 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 15: was numb to it. When my little brother died, it 682 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 15: changed my life. That was some of the worst pain 683 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 15: that I ever felt in my life ever. I could 684 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 15: never I never could faden like and I'm on street, 685 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 15: like when I wake out, when I walk out the house, 686 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 15: I feel like I'm gonna die, Like you know, like 687 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 15: I really feel like that. 688 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: And that's what get me home. 689 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 15: You feel what I'm saying, like every step, every move 690 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 15: that I take is calculated. And I never felt like 691 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 15: he was gonna die. You know what I'm saying, Like, no, boys, 692 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 15: I never ever think like him. Hell No, I just 693 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 15: I never thought he was gonna die. Every day I 694 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 15: wake out, wake up, I really feel like I'm gonna die. 695 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 15: I feel like somebody would do something to me. And 696 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 15: that's just the life I live. And that's just you. 697 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 12: Still feel like that, cause I remember the last day 698 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 12: you said you feel like that. You said you were 699 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 12: going to therapy to help you, and it helped me. 700 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 8: With it, helped me with it. 701 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 15: But like, nah, hell no, And I'm glad that even 702 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 15: going through therapy and like growing and healing the way 703 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 15: that I've healed in my life, I'm kind of glad 704 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 15: that I never lost their edge for real, because that's 705 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 15: how I protect myself, That's how I protect my children, 706 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 15: That's how I make sure I get back home. You 707 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 15: feel what I'm saying, Like, I'm not out here thuging, 708 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 15: I ain't wild and I ain't doing no crazy. Some 709 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 15: days I leave the house and it just be just 710 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 15: me by myself, no security, nothing. 711 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: But I I'm still on point. 712 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 15: I'm still watching my back, I'm still aware of my surroundings, 713 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 15: you feel I'm saying. So it's like I'm glad that 714 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 15: I never lost that edge real real and when like 715 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 15: going back to what you know what I'm saying. What 716 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 15: you said, Shla Mane. Like when I when my little 717 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 15: brother died, I lost myself, Like I became an alcoholic, 718 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 15: like a badass alcoholic. I never used to drink bro 719 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 15: I used to drink a fifth of liquor every single day, 720 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 15: like every day by myself, like, and my girl was 721 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 15: pregnant when he died, you feel me, like, and I 722 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 15: was like I was trying to like not be that 723 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 15: weak around her, you feel me because she she know 724 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 15: I didn't been through like she didn't been around me, 725 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 15: and I didn't lost homies, you fe what I'm saying. Like, 726 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 15: and she used to like say, like snap out of it, 727 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 15: like you feel me like she used to like say it, 728 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 15: but it's like I can't. 729 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 4: It was just so hard for me. 730 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 15: I really couldn't for real, Like I used to have 731 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 15: to leave the house just to go cry, like swear 732 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 15: to God, like just go get in the con just 733 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 15: cry for a hour straight because I ain't want to 734 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 15: do that in front of her, and I felt like 735 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 15: I should have. 736 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: I should have, I should have, but I was like, 737 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: I don't know. 738 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: I just And when she said snap out of it, 739 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 5: what does she mean, like not. 740 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 15: Snap out of the grief, snap out of the healing, 741 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 15: snap out of the crashing out like drinking, drinking every 742 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 15: day and wanting to go to the club and just 743 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 15: feel something, because I really can't feel nothing, you know 744 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 15: what I'm saying. Like that was like that's what she 745 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 15: used to tell me to snap out of and it 746 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 15: was like it was hard, man, I ain't gonna lie. 747 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 9: I want to go back to one thing you said 748 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 9: in regards to how you react to death, because you know, 749 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 9: staying busy as a response to trauma, right, and we 750 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 9: saw that in real time. If you don't mind me 751 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 9: bringing this up, like like people don't know to day 752 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 9: your father passed, God bless it came in you was 753 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 9: scheduled to do a breakfast club interview. 754 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 8: You came in the studio and. 755 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: Still wanted to do it, like bro go home, like. 756 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 8: What some of it? 757 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 15: And I love you forever for that because I really 758 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 15: was hit her do that. And it's like that's the thing. 759 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 15: Like I'm so used to deaf and used to just 760 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 15: like I didn't even process it for real, like I 761 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 15: came here because it's like I really was in my 762 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 15: head trying to forget that my dad is dead. But 763 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 15: I gotta like understand it. I gotta know, like, yeah, 764 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 15: my PAP's just dad today. I need to process that. 765 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 15: Like and you. 766 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 8: Had just got the news while you was in the car. 767 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 4: On the way. 768 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 15: Yeah, my dad was in the hospital. I knew he 769 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 15: was sick, and I found out he died, and I 770 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 15: just came here. 771 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. I just like I don't even like 772 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: you know what, go home? 773 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 8: What are you doing? 774 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 15: Like we're not doing Yeah no you told me, like bro, 775 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 15: just go home, Like just leave bro for real for 776 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 15: real the rest of that day, Like. 777 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 14: What did you do? Did you reflect on it? Were 778 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 14: you afraid to even? 779 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: I was afraid? 780 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 15: I was afraid because like when you lose a parent, 781 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 15: that's different real real my dad. 782 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 4: Like I didn't. I didn't have an absent. 783 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 15: Father, like my father been living with me my entire life, 784 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 15: Like my mother and my dad been together forty years 785 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 15: for real for real, Like and I think I was 786 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 15: just trying to like not feel it, like not processing, 787 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 15: like you know what I'm saying. I was just like, 788 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 15: all right, man, let me just do it, and like 789 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 15: that's the that's the problem, Like that's the thing, like 790 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 15: you feel like, all right, let me just do it 791 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 15: and push through this and this is my job, this 792 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 15: is my life, Like you gotta put that to the side. 793 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 15: Sometimes when you're going through things like that, you feel 794 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 15: what I'm saying. And the rest of that day for 795 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 15: me was really just like I was scared, like I 796 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 15: ain't want to call my mama. I didn't want to 797 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 15: talk to my sister. It took me so long and 798 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 15: it just asked, my sister, are you okay? 799 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: How you doing? It was super hard? Okay? 800 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 15: Like I was scared to like had them conversations with her, 801 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 15: like how you feeling? 802 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that even. 803 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 15: My mom, like I keep my mom close to me, 804 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 15: and my mom like this you feel me and I know. 805 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 4: It, like I could see it. 806 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 15: I know she was not okay, And I used to 807 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 15: avoid them conversations you feel what I'm saying, Like she 808 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 15: would bring stuff up and like send me pictures and 809 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 15: all that. 810 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 4: It was. It was like i'd have been in therapy. 811 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 15: I'm a person that's not like shy from my emotions, 812 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 15: like I'm intune my emotions all of that. But just 813 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 15: like it was hard because like for me, just I 814 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 15: just thought he hit more time, like I just wanted 815 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 15: him to be here. So I wasn't trying to like 816 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 15: live in reality because I'm still I was still grieving 817 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 15: my little brother Da, you feel what I'm saying, Like, 818 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 15: so when that happened, it was just like I didn't 819 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 15: want to believe that my dad was dead because I 820 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 15: be on the road. Sometimes I go eight months without 821 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 15: seeing my pops. So it's like you feel me, like 822 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 15: eight nine months without seeing him at all. Sometimes I 823 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 15: go months without talking to him. So I was trying 824 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 15: to like tap into that, like you feel me, like, 825 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 15: let me just get in that mentality like he like 826 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 15: he here, but you know what I'm saying, but he 827 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 15: my pops. 828 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: Really, Like that's crazy. 829 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 15: I think about that every day, like man really died 830 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 15: on me, And it's crazy, Like I pray every day, 831 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 15: like I pray so much because my pops, my last 832 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 15: conversation with him. 833 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 4: My dad died the day after his. 834 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 15: Birthday, Like my birthday October eighth, my dad birthday October sixteenth. 835 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 15: He died on seventeen and my last conversation with him, 836 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 15: I called him, I said every birthday. 837 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 4: I said, man, you're on your way. Boy, you're getting old. 838 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: You're getting old? 839 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 6: What? 840 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 4: And he died Like that was the last thing I 841 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 4: said to my pops, like boy, on your way. Boy, 842 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 4: you about to be setting me. 843 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying, Like you're getting old. Stop 844 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 15: getting old? 845 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: In a dream like you said that I was on 846 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 2: my way. 847 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope So I want him to. Now he 848 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 4: haven't chat. I want him to. I hope he. 849 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 15: I hope he's telling me that the night Like that 850 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 15: give me a lot of comfort for real, real, Like. 851 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 9: Is it hard to write about? I mean, like I said, 852 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 9: you write about your brother now? Yeah, but past three 853 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 9: years ago? Five okay five years? 854 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 8: So is it hard? It's hard to put that on 855 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 8: paper right. 856 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 15: Now in a way like only like I'll just like 857 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 15: for sure, like in a way I just rap about 858 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 15: like my pop's passing. I never like I didn't got 859 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 15: all the way, like I didn't made songs like paying 860 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 15: homage to. 861 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 4: My brother, like give it all that songs about my 862 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 4: brother and. 863 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 15: Made songs just talking about how I felt that day, 864 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 15: like I didn't made multiple songs about my brother die 865 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 15: like I ain't did that for my pop shit. All 866 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 15: I said on Wax for Real is just like my 867 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 15: dad did, Like I never spoke about the emotions how 868 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 15: I felt, none of that. 869 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, it is definitely tough because. 870 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 15: I don't know I feel like mentally or just where 871 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 15: I'm met in life, like I ain't been able to 872 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 15: tap into that pain. 873 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: We want to get into something for that. What you 874 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: want to hear that? 875 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 4: Man, Let's play give it out. That's one of my 876 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 4: favorite songs. 877 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us. 878 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 12: Brother the pick up her ABO album this week seeing 879 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 12: her and it's the breakfast Club. 880 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody being just Hilarie Chelamine the guy. 881 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 12: We are the breakfast club Longa Roses here as well. 882 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building. Indeed number 883 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 2: one record. The record is flying on the Chelsea Player 884 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: What every. 885 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 12: Hour on the hour, damn one of my wife's favorite 886 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 12: record Right now, ladies and gentlemen, Klan welcome guy. 887 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 5: I'm really good. 888 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 8: I have blessed black night. How your energy it's good? 889 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 5: Can I tell you guys something before we started. 890 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 16: Of course, it's very important that during this era of 891 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 16: my life, if I let everyone know that my name 892 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 16: is pronounced ka. 893 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 13: Lannie kise you guys say, I. 894 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 8: Always say ka, good morning morning. 895 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 5: I'm really good. 896 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 13: This might be like a stupid question, but like, why 897 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 13: this right right now? Why have you been correcting people? 898 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 5: You know what? I feel like I have here and there, 899 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 5: But then like it just blows under, like nobody cares. 900 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 5: Everybody just says how they want to say. It's not 901 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 5: that big of a deal. 902 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 16: I have family members who say, Kilanie got you. But 903 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 16: you know, I'm like, I'm thirty now I'm feeling a 904 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 16: little like, let's just get you know, it's been ten years. 905 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: Don't say my name wrong. 906 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 5: For ten years. 907 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 8: You know, we all like to create safe spaces for ourselves. 908 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think you can create a safe space 909 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 9: of people calling you out your wrown name, because I 910 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 9: think if I was doing an interview and somebody said 911 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 9: Kilani and the whole interview, I think I should have 912 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 9: corrected them. 913 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 8: I should have corrected. I should have corrected. 914 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 16: But no one wants to be that person as like 915 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 16: sour as the moment it's like by the way scratch that. 916 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 5: You know, well, here we are now now you guys know. 917 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 12: Yes, Kaylyn, how does it feel fold the number one? 918 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 12: How is that feeling? 919 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 16: It feels really good. It's been a long time coming. 920 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 16: I've been getting told for the last eight years of 921 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 16: my life. You know, you're always one song away. You're 922 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 16: one song away or one song away, we see it 923 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 16: for you. And so to have the song and everything 924 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 16: be changing in this way, it's really nice. 925 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: Did you know that was the record when y'all did it? 926 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: Did you know that was gonna be it? 927 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 9: No? 928 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 16: It was the most accidental thing in the world that 929 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 16: even making it was accidental, came about accidentally. I'm in 930 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 16: la I get a call to come finish this feature. 931 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 16: But the guy's like, I'm out to go on this 932 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 16: massive tour, like, so you have to come finish it 933 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 16: with me in person. Bring the producers, Come to Miami, 934 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 16: Bring the producers. We go to Miami and for two 935 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 16: days we just can't figure out this song that we're 936 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 16: supposed to finish, and we don't want we didn't want 937 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 16: to waste the time, so we went to a studio 938 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 16: house with Don Mills, who actually plays a guitar on the. 939 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 5: Song, and Dre Harris came and the. 940 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 16: First be he played was the folded beat from his 941 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 16: boy DK the Punisher, and I bring it in the 942 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 16: other room and I just keep singing this hook and 943 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 16: everybody's like, that's really cool, build on it. 944 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 5: And we stayed there for a week. 945 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 16: But every single day after, you know, we made that song, 946 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 16: it'd be the one song from the like the camp 947 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 16: that we just kept replaying. And I hit my label 948 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 16: and I was like, I don't know, like, I know 949 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 16: you guys are looking for what is it? 950 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 5: It's like as a Juni or July at this time. 951 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,479 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. 952 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 16: I know you guys are looking for like the club single, 953 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 16: the banger. This is not that, Like, this isn't really 954 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 16: song of the summer. I don't but this feels like 955 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 16: an introduction to like where I my mentally musically, my 956 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 16: you know, maturation in my like my sonic journey. And 957 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 16: let me just tease it, like, let me put it out. 958 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 16: You guys don't have to, you know, don't freak out. 959 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 16: But it feels good and it just kind of like 960 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 16: took its own life, and there we are. 961 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 9: There's a lot of emotional intelligence to fold a man's 962 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 9: clothes and tell him come get him instead of throwing them. 963 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 8: All over the lung. 964 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 16: Well, I mean, I'm definitely not volding a man's clothes. 965 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 16: Oh well, anyone's close. Yeah, But I think it's a 966 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 16: very nuanced perspective, and I'm watching a lot of people 967 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 16: be on this, you know, really extreme side of it, 968 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 16: either like Carolin is way better than me. You're clothes 969 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 16: with being a trash can, or. 970 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: Believe I'm not taking time. 971 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 16: For that right, or they're like, yeah, I'm folding instantly, 972 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 16: I'm folding and closed and asked who cares if they 973 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 16: did wrong? 974 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 5: In the song, I verbatim. 975 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 16: Say like I probably should have asked for space, but 976 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 16: I kind of told you to walk away, which means 977 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 16: I probably jumped the gun and I overreacted, And I 978 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 16: need to express to you that you did hurt me, 979 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 16: but also maybe. 980 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 5: Come over so we can talk about it. 981 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 16: So it's more of like a nuance mature conversation existing 982 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 16: that's kind of like, both, you did hurt me, but 983 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 16: we also need to speak and I also might have not. 984 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 5: You know, handled this the right way. 985 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 16: And let's just get in the same place and get 986 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 16: in each other's face and come talk about it. 987 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna use your clothes as bait. 988 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 9: I like that accountability, Yeah, nohall, you're choosing vulnerability over 989 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 9: wearing emotional armor. 990 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. 991 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 8: So what shifted in your real life that allowed that change? 992 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 16: I think something happens when you you know you're turning thirty. 993 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 16: I mean, astrologically, something madeor happens, you go through a 994 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 16: side and return and outside of that, I just I've 995 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 16: been through a lot in the last couple of years. 996 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 16: I've really spent, you know, making the changes I needed 997 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 16: to make. I know, I saw you guys last time. 998 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 16: We talked about mental health and all those you know, 999 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 16: it's been a year since then. I think when I 1000 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 16: came to you guys last time, I was a week 1001 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 16: into being diagnosed. I just started medication. I'm not a 1002 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 16: year into like that journey. Very settled in, very in 1003 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 16: my routine, very very healthy, and being able to assess 1004 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 16: myself and assess my situations and you know, just be 1005 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 16: on top of my stuff. Honestly, that allowed me to 1006 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 16: be able to come to a place to write from 1007 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 16: the perspective I'm able to write from now. 1008 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 12: Were you ever on the other side, meaning where you 1009 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 12: have the person to throw the clothes in the bag 1010 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 12: and then throw the clothes out the window. 1011 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 4: For sure. 1012 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 16: First Yeah, I've been like a twenty five year old 1013 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 16: girl before. Yeah, for sure. 1014 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 13: What has your journey been like since you said last 1015 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 13: time they saw you it was like first week of Yeah, 1016 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 13: you know, what has your personal journey been like? You know, 1017 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 13: using your medicines now and kind of understanding you know 1018 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 13: your body and your mental that does that up and 1019 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 13: down or consistency been like it hasn't been different for you? 1020 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean bipolar disorder is a really layered thing. 1021 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 16: That also, because it's so stigmatized in the world and 1022 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 16: there's so many jokes about it that I think people 1023 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 16: get really confused. You know, they think, Okay, I woke 1024 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 16: up with an attitude and then later on I felt 1025 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 16: better than I had attitude again, so I'm bipolar. 1026 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 5: It's a way bigger, deeper thing than that. 1027 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 16: And I think medicine at my therapy journey gave me 1028 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 16: the opportunity to have thought applied to my mood and 1029 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 16: thought applied to situations when you know, other wh like 1030 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 16: in other ways, I wouldn't have had the thought I 1031 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 16: would have just felt it and it would have just left, 1032 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 16: and next thing you know, there's episodical things happening, and 1033 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 16: next thing you know, I'm just gone with the wind. 1034 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 16: But this, I wouldn't say it stops it completely, but 1035 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 16: it really allows you to have a process. And I 1036 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 16: think that that's been the biggest difference is I have 1037 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 16: so much, so much option for process now, and I 1038 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 16: can go through these things and take them slowly and 1039 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 16: think about them and like have a second where I'm like, 1040 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 16: you know, I have the tools now. I have a 1041 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 16: tool belt of things I can apply, Like do I 1042 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 16: go this way? Do I take a walk? 1043 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 5: Do I like? 1044 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 16: This is not the reaction that I want to This 1045 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 16: is not the version of myself that I want to 1046 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 16: show up in this situation. 1047 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 5: So things like that, I think I would. 1048 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 12: Say it's difficult being vulnerable, right for a artists, How 1049 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 12: difficult is that because it's showing a side of yourself 1050 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 12: that I'm sure you think that maybe people are laugh 1051 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 12: But then on the other side, I'm sure as a 1052 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 12: side that says, there's so many people dealing with it. 1053 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 12: And I love the fact artists are doing more. We've 1054 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 12: seen it with Gucci the same thing. So when did 1055 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 12: you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it 1056 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 12: a hard line to draw to be like, do I 1057 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 12: want to be this vulnerable? Do I want to share 1058 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 12: this experience? 1059 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 16: I think I've always been messally vulnerable. But I grew 1060 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 16: up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been 1061 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 16: seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen 1062 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 16: years old, and I think when you're viewing it on 1063 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 16: the outside, it you kind of timestamp people like artists 1064 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 16: get timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to 1065 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 16: the fan. So there's people who still view me as 1066 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 16: something I went when I was twenty four, and like 1067 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 16: that's who they'll see me as forever. And when you're 1068 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 16: twenty four at that time, you're also confidently speaking in 1069 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 16: these interviews because you're like, this is who I am 1070 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 16: right now, and I get it. 1071 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 5: Then ten years later you're. 1072 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, I don't know who that person. 1073 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 5: I mean, hasn't been ten years for me. 1074 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 16: But I'm thirty now and I'm looking back at things 1075 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 16: I said when I was twenty four to twenty five, 1076 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 16: even twenty seven, and I'm like, yikes, even a year 1077 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 16: ago I'm like, okay, like growth, I'm different now. 1078 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 8: It's good though, you have your self awareness that. 1079 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 5: Was supposed to go. 1080 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know this haves to feel good to you too. 1081 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 9: The success of folded because vocally you were one of 1082 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 9: the first artists I saw publicly showing support for Palestine, 1083 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 9: and I mean you spoke out when a lot of 1084 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 9: people weren't. I know, you lost shows because of it, 1085 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 9: you were barred from things. How does it feel having 1086 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 9: this success and you have it for being on the 1087 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 9: right side of history. 1088 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1089 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 16: I think if we have the courage to do things, 1090 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 16: and then so we see people have success after doing 1091 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 16: the things that we deem scary, we might be more 1092 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 16: courageous to do them. 1093 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 5: And I think it's important. 1094 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 16: That other artists see that I've been able to thrive 1095 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 16: after all those things happen. I mean there's still things 1096 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 16: that I will never be allowed to do, or things 1097 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 16: that are not getting picked up or oh yeah, for sure, 1098 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 16: it probably forever. I don't think people realize how deep 1099 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 16: it goes. I didn't even at the time realize how 1100 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 16: deep it goes. Also, to be really frank, I was 1101 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 16: incredibly manic, so a lot of the routes that I went, 1102 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 16: the yelling and the if all you guys, if you 1103 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 16: guys don't understand, and da da dad, and you know what, 1104 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 16: have my team could go if y'all don't speak, just 1105 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 16: these different routes versus like, hey, let me calm down 1106 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 16: and be strategic about this, because in every single movement, 1107 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 16: in every single political, yeah, movement across the board, there's 1108 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 16: more strategy involved in the way that you communicated, the 1109 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 16: way that you choose to organize the things that you 1110 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 16: engage with, And at the time, I didn't really have 1111 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 16: those resources to think in that way. So yeah, there's 1112 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 16: still things that I'm experiencing that I probably will experience 1113 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 16: for a really long time. But I think this other 1114 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 16: side of it is speaking to the fact that when 1115 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 16: there's great music, there's great music, and when people love 1116 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 16: the music and they love the art, then you can't 1117 00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 16: really be taken out in that way. 1118 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 9: And I'm a stern believe it that you should always 1119 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 9: move off strategy over emotion, but you can understand the 1120 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 9: emotion when you're yes, it's so understand well. 1121 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 16: I was so much grace for how I handled it 1122 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 16: because I was really just passionate and upset. 1123 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 5: I was angry. We should have all been angry. 1124 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 16: It was really terrible to watch and treacherous to feel 1125 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 16: some kind of like a part of because like our 1126 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 16: country is such a big part of it. But I 1127 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 16: definitely wish that I was able to call myself to 1128 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 16: be smarter about the way that I went about it 1129 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 16: for my own sake and for being a leader in 1130 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 16: front of a camera for other people. 1131 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 12: And how do you feel when other artists don't speak 1132 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 12: about it when they have the opportunity do you look? 1133 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 12: How does that feel to you? Because you jumped out 1134 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 12: the window and yeah, you got banned from things. 1135 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 16: And I think it's really easy to say, like I 1136 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 16: want to be very clear with my words, Like it 1137 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 16: is really easy to say that I hate them for 1138 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 16: it or. 1139 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 5: I really blame them. 1140 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 16: But after experiencing everything I went through, which went way 1141 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 16: deeper than just being banned from things that you know, 1142 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 16: got into my safety, my family dynamic, my friendships, I 1143 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 16: had to move. It put me into a really bad 1144 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 16: paranoia every time I left the house. Was everybody out 1145 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 16: to get me? And did I need security to sit 1146 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 16: in front of my house? And was anybody plotting on me? 1147 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 16: And the death threats I got at my show was 1148 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 16: like highly organized, typed out, detailed death threats. It's easy 1149 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 16: to say like that shouldn't matter because we should all be, 1150 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 16: you know, up in arms, and part of me is like, yeah, 1151 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 16: we should. But also I wish there was it wasn't 1152 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 16: so sinister, like the lashings behind the scene. I wish 1153 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 16: it wasn't so sinister, and I wish it wasn't something. 1154 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 5: To be afraid of. 1155 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 16: I think if we all spoken numbers and there was 1156 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 16: so many of us, it wouldn't be so easy to 1157 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 16: just come after one person. I think when you leave 1158 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 16: it to be one or two people, it's easy to 1159 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 16: just get them out of here. We've seen it historically. 1160 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,839 Speaker 16: But if it's a lot of people, who can they 1161 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 16: get there's a bunch of us. 1162 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 9: Didn't make you speak out even more because you did 1163 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,280 Speaker 9: it the Red Carpet on the AMAS, you voiced support 1164 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 9: for Palistine, So when you were getting back lives behind 1165 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 9: the scenes, you like, now I'm gonna go out there 1166 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 9: even more. 1167 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 16: I just like I was like, I'm already here, Like 1168 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,439 Speaker 16: I'm already experiencing everything I'm experiencing, and it hasn't. 1169 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 5: Stopped like it hasn't stopped. 1170 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 16: Like it's still you know, cease fire and all still 1171 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 16: hasn't stopped. And if even if you know, the genocide 1172 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 16: itself does stop, there's a much larger thing at hand there, 1173 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 16: which is, you know, ending the apartheid. So I don't know, 1174 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 16: I don't think it was ever like an intentional I'm 1175 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 16: gonna choose to speak. I was asked a question on 1176 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 16: the carpet, and I answered it, and my stance remains 1177 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 16: the same. 1178 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 9: So yeah, it's just interesting that you would still be 1179 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 9: getting back because even the U and Chief said there 1180 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 9: are strong reasons to believe that war crimes have been committed. 1181 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 16: Yeah, but we're dealing we're dealing with a very delusional 1182 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 16: other side. It's a very delusional side where you have 1183 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 16: shown videos and you've shown facts and they've seen things, 1184 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 16: and the response is literally, that's not even real, Like 1185 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 16: y'all made this up, you know, like you kind of 1186 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 16: At some point I have to be like, Okay, there's 1187 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 16: a game here, and I'm gonna play this game with 1188 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 16: you guys, because you know what you're doing, I'm not 1189 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 16: gonna I'm not gonna play it. 1190 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 13: I saw the comments about you know, you speaking out 1191 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 13: on ice and them going into schools and things, and 1192 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 13: I know you're a mom, yeah as well, But like, 1193 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 13: has there have you experienced any similar pushback from the 1194 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 13: other side or wherever because of those comments? 1195 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 5: No? Yeah, yeah, Zionism is a much. 1196 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 16: Larger, deeper, darker, sinister thing than good old regular American racism, 1197 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 16: even though they're very intertwined and they walk hand in 1198 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 16: hand with each other a little bit. But yeah, no, 1199 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 16: I haven't experienced any pushback from that. I think we're 1200 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 16: all more comfortable talking about that in general than you know, 1201 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 16: anything else. 1202 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 12: So I was going to ask, you know, we also 1203 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 12: see you speak out about AI in the industry, and 1204 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 12: the crazy part about it is I agree with you, 1205 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 12: but I think it's crazy for an artist. We had 1206 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 12: Tank and they they were talking about they think it's 1207 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 12: a good thing and that you know, artists and the 1208 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 12: industry needs to adapt to it. 1209 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 2: I think it kind of hurts. 1210 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 4: The fact of. 1211 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 8: The creativity is better than kline. 1212 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 12: You're executive, right, Yes, would you have a sign an 1213 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 12: artist that you got to deal with makeup, hair, manages, security, 1214 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 12: all that, or AI person that you ain't got to 1215 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 12: deal with nothing? 1216 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: You cut a check and just let the money come. 1217 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 15: If you tell me that person you just said, it's Kayline, 1218 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 15: I'm taking kaylany Worth. 1219 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 8: They're going to see her. Drive're going to see how 1220 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 8: hard she goes in. 1221 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 2: Oh, what's your thoughts? 1222 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 16: I think there's so many layers to it. One we're 1223 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 16: gonna put out there that you know, it's not good 1224 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 16: for the environment. It's affecting communities everywhere, but especially disparage 1225 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 16: Black communities in Americas. Messing with the waters, messing with 1226 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 16: the air like it's gonna make people sick in the 1227 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 16: long run. We move on from that and get into 1228 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 16: all these aspects of music that are being in jobs. 1229 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 16: Let's forget music, right. I'm speaking to music because I'm 1230 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 16: being asked about music, you know, but I'm not. I 1231 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 16: think there's a much larger thing of like all these 1232 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 16: little jobs that people are employed to do that is 1233 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 16: keeping their families going, that is literally feeding everyone around them, 1234 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 16: are just gone and we don't realize we're training, you know, 1235 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 16: these systems to do those things. 1236 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 5: There's things that I understand. 1237 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 16: I think I was told about how it is working 1238 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 16: for surgeries, Like these robots are helping in surgery, you know, 1239 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 16: more precise surgeries. And then there's you know, like the 1240 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 16: disabled community and being able to get things. 1241 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 5: Done in that way. 1242 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 16: And I've experienced producers and writers be stuck on something 1243 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 16: and use it to help or like finish something and 1244 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 16: then get it replayed or get it remade, And like, 1245 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 16: those aren't exactly things that I'm super mad about, Like 1246 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 16: I'm not going to bark at them the same way, 1247 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 16: but overall as a whole, but. 1248 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 2: A fake person, a fake art, as a fake singer. 1249 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 16: It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a 1250 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 16: God given thing. It's it's it's the highest gift, you know, 1251 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 16: God gave to Earth, is used in every single religion 1252 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,919 Speaker 16: across the board to connect with God. 1253 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 5: It's it's it's a very power, powerful thing. 1254 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 16: And for it to be generated in that way and 1255 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 16: also be what it's what it's using to be generated 1256 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 16: is a combination of real people's stories and real people's 1257 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 16: voices and real people's feelings and emotion. And for all 1258 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 16: that to happen even deeper than oh, it's going to 1259 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 16: take our jobs because there's this sensationalized sentence of mind 1260 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 16: that's like why do I have to compete with a computer? 1261 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 16: But it's not about competing. It's more like, this is 1262 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 16: a disruption of something that God gave us, you know 1263 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 16: what I mean, And that feels wrong to me. Like 1264 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 16: it's music is such a it comes from here, it's 1265 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,240 Speaker 16: given here, and to have that generated through a computer 1266 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 16: just feels like. 1267 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 5: It just feels wrong. 1268 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 9: I like this argument, Kline. I like this because I 1269 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 9: feel the same way. It is a download from God 1270 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 9: downloaded from a computer. But you not have you know, 1271 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 9: they have Jesus Ai. You can log on and have 1272 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 9: meaningful conversations with Jesus. 1273 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 2: And Jesus a message and then yeah, that a biblical verse. 1274 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 5: I think it's going to go so far. I think 1275 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 5: it's going to go so far. 1276 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 16: I don't think people are thinking about the negative implications, 1277 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 16: like being able to be framed for things, being able 1278 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 16: to have images creative of your children that are inappropriate, 1279 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,959 Speaker 16: that lives on people's computers and they can do whatever 1280 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 16: they want to it. When you wake up one day 1281 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 16: and somebody has a sex tape of you that never happened, 1282 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,280 Speaker 16: if they. 1283 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 5: Can make that's happening now. 1284 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 16: Oh have you heard about the people getting the phone calls? 1285 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 8: They call you and you hear your kids and somebody. 1286 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 16: I need an X amount of money because my kid 1287 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 16: got kidding, Like, I don't think people are It's just 1288 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 16: cute and fun and games now and you want to 1289 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 16: make videos of Malcolm X eating and seafood boil with 1290 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 16: Martin Luther King and and Michael Jackson and Prince have 1291 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 16: an argument about whose funeral was more lit. 1292 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 5: Like I've seen them all. You know it's it's But 1293 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 5: there comes. 1294 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,919 Speaker 16: A point when you have to realize that where there's 1295 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 16: always light and fun, there's always going to be the 1296 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 16: extreme of that existing somewhere that we can't access it. 1297 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 16: And I also think something is real sinister about the 1298 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 16: White House using so much AI. 1299 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 8: Oh, this election is gonna be crazy. 1300 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's gonna be nice. How are they going to 1301 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 16: be able to say anything was real or false? 1302 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 13: What do you say to the people, because I know 1303 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 13: one of the conversations that you were having was specifically 1304 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 13: about the three million dollar deal, the reported three million 1305 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 13: dollars that Zanya the AI, the thing I don't even 1306 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 13: know how to comput. 1307 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 17: Yeah, the artist that I am on a guide right. 1308 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 13: There are people that will say all of that is true, 1309 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 13: but there's good and bad with everything. But on the 1310 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 13: other hand, you have this black woman who is using 1311 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 13: her poetry to write lyrics, and now it's three million 1312 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 13: dollars wealthier and able to do for her family and 1313 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 13: stuff like that. 1314 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 16: I mean, I said, even in the times I've spoken 1315 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 16: about her, I'm not I'm not mad at her ability 1316 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 16: to have done that for herself. I think it's dishonest 1317 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 16: the way we're speaking about it, because I think it's 1318 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 16: a very interesting thing to be responding to particular comments 1319 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 16: and saying certain things but not telling the truth. 1320 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 5: Tell the truth. You wrote a couple of lines, just 1321 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 5: said a couple of words. 1322 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 16: Then you framed I might want it to sound like this, 1323 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 16: and go like this, and take from this and make 1324 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 16: it sound like this, and make it appeal in this 1325 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 16: way and make me look like this, and da da da, 1326 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 16: and it did all of that. You're doing fifteen percent 1327 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 16: of the job. Let's just be honest about what the 1328 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 16: fifteen percent of the job is. If you write poetry, 1329 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 16: I would love to write with a poet. I've written 1330 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 16: with poets before they come in. We write together. I 1331 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 16: turn their words into a song. I use my songwriter 1332 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 16: brain to apply to their poetry brain, and we make 1333 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 16: a really beautiful product. But I'm watching her answer these 1334 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 16: questions and I'm watching the lies accumulate and like take 1335 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 16: together in her head to try to figure out what 1336 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 16: to say. And I'm like, we could just tell the 1337 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,839 Speaker 16: truth and say what the tool is being used for, 1338 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 16: and then maybe it can have its separate charts or 1339 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 16: it cannot, because you're right, there is no stopping it. 1340 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 16: I could get, you know, for being said it should 1341 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 16: have its own charts, but at this point something. 1342 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 2: Has to be done with AI artist. 1343 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I had created something called a guaranteed human. 1344 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 9: I saw that at least we're going to be human, 1345 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 9: like the personalities and music. But if one day they 1346 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 9: do decide to play AI music, it'll still. 1347 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: You know that music. 1348 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 16: Yeah, So yeah, it's less about I want everybody to 1349 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,240 Speaker 16: feed their. 1350 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 5: Families and be successful at the end of the day. 1351 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 5: That like, that's my wish. 1352 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 16: If I had one wish in the world, it would 1353 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,439 Speaker 16: be for everybody to have their needs made. 1354 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 5: So I'm never mad at that. 1355 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 9: I like, just you said tho, because I was going 1356 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 9: to ask you, what does authentic music have that AI 1357 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 9: generated music could not have? God, Yeah, that's it. 1358 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 5: I don't I don't. I don't play with things like that. 1359 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 16: You know, it's it's it's it's such a deep thing, 1360 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 16: and I feel like not us being able to I 1361 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 16: watched the A artists even talk about God is it 1362 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 16: is insane, the AI gospel that is insane. I'm looking 1363 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,839 Speaker 16: in Zenaiamon's Yeah, I'm looking at Zenanaimon's comments and they're saying, 1364 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 16: since you're anointed, that's kind of crazy. 1365 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 13: I mean, I'm going to look at the comments right now. 1366 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 13: But I will say when I first heard the song, 1367 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 13: when everybody was up in arms, I had listened to 1368 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 13: the music, and I went and listened and I was like, oh, 1369 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 13: this is actually like it's good music. 1370 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 5: Because you know what it's doing though. 1371 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 16: It's analyzing the community that she's trying to appeal to, 1372 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 16: which means it's studying black women, saying what do black 1373 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 16: women want to hear? What perspectives, what type of voices, 1374 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 16: what kind of stories, what kind of emotions, and then 1375 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 16: accumulating all of that and going, I'm going to give 1376 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 16: you a package deal of exactly what you want, even 1377 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 16: down to what I look like. 1378 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 8: It's an artificial, annoying, artificial. 1379 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 5: I don't know if that girls, and I don't think 1380 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 5: that goes in the same sentence. 1381 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 12: But you know, hey, are you guess the chat GPT 1382 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 12: stuff as well. 1383 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,919 Speaker 16: I'm against people putting it in place of very human things. 1384 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 5: Look, we are entering it makes. 1385 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 2: Life easier for a lot of people. 1386 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,959 Speaker 5: It does, and that's and that's the argument it. 1387 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 2: Does because kids go to school. You can type in 1388 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 2: a pay I have to do a report on this 1389 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 2: type and chatgy bet. 1390 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 16: The argument of like people who can't afford English classes 1391 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 16: that moved here, I need English classes? 1392 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 5: Is teaching them English? 1393 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 16: Like there are there's always gonna be this thing that's like, 1394 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 16: there are things that it is good for, and there 1395 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 16: are things that it is bad for outside of you 1396 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 16: know what's doing, what it's doing to the environment, But 1397 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 16: we become gluttonous with it, and it's there is not regulated, guys. 1398 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 16: That's really the problem is that it's not regulated. Did 1399 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 16: you not see the moments where people were telling their 1400 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 16: or chagbt to cancel itself and then it hops servers 1401 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 16: to avoid getting deleted like I robot, yes it hot, 1402 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 16: I promise you can look this up right now. It 1403 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 16: jumps servers because it didn't want to get if it 1404 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 16: can observe all of our emotions, why couldn't it be 1405 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 16: able to think of something as sinister as we could 1406 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 16: think of and not want to get canceled or not 1407 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 16: want to get deleted, or not want to be gone 1408 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 16: or want. 1409 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 5: To it's studying us twenty four seven. 1410 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's something. 1411 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 9: I mean, I totally agree with you with the god thing, 1412 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,959 Speaker 9: because there's something to be in a spiritual being living 1413 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 9: in human existence, right, Like we're supposed to make mistakes. 1414 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,439 Speaker 8: We're supposed to try and figure things out like us. 1415 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 8: Like yeah, through prayer and meditation and just and therapy. 1416 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 17: Community. 1417 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 5: Being a community member is really important. 1418 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 16: Talking to people, having other people talk to you back, 1419 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 16: sharing experience, messing up together, being held accountable, being called in, 1420 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,439 Speaker 16: growing and getting applause from other humans, getting love from 1421 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 16: other humans. If we're all just going to be alone, 1422 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 16: getting all those things from a robot, like we're gonna 1423 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 16: stunt ourselves as a world. 1424 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 8: As a species. 1425 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 16: I agree that what happens to love and what happens 1426 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 16: to art and what happens to music I just had 1427 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 16: I've been having this conversation for weeks, like you know that, 1428 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 16: paired with how the Internet's obsessed with destroying each other 1429 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 16: and calling and completely ruining people's lives and doing all 1430 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 16: these kind of things. We're entering a very individualistic, let's 1431 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 16: kill community for people kind of world, Like we're isolating 1432 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 16: everyone from every side, technology and each other is becoming 1433 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 16: this huge isolation isolation party, and it's really sad. 1434 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 2: How does that make you as a mom? 1435 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 6: Now? 1436 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 12: Because you have a daughter, So how are you raising 1437 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 12: your child in this type of world that you just named? 1438 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 8: You know what I mean? 1439 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 12: Because these other kids when they go to these colleges 1440 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 12: and schools, they're going to be using chat, GPT. You know, 1441 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 12: these other kids are gonna be using things that necessarily 1442 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 12: you don't agree with, you know, So how do you 1443 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 12: raise that daughter in this crazy world with information? 1444 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 5: I think I give her all information possible. I don't. 1445 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 5: I don't lie to my kid. 1446 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 16: I don't, you know, obviously don't just outright tell her 1447 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 16: terrible things. But like, you give her all the information 1448 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 16: so she knows what's out there, and I tell her 1449 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 16: why this, I don't. 1450 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 5: Agree with this, Why I think this is bad? 1451 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 16: Why you know, I'm not gonna say no to this, 1452 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 16: but I'm gonna give you another option and explain why 1453 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 16: that option is probably the better option to do, and 1454 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 16: let her decide. Ultimately, I can't protect her from what 1455 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 16: she learns at school and what her friends share and 1456 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 16: things like that. But at home, we're very like human focused, 1457 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 16: and I'm very communal. Like she's a big extended family. 1458 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 16: She's a million aunties and uncles and cousins, and she 1459 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 16: does a very I have community and people around me 1460 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 16: kind of life. She's not sitting in the corner on 1461 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 16: her iPad alone all day. That's just not her life. 1462 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 2: Does she see? How does she feel about the evolved 1463 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 2: version of Kailanie? 1464 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 4: Right? 1465 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Because you said you've. 1466 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 12: Changed's six, I don't know between three and six and 1467 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 12: four and six. 1468 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 8: But like, Mommy's cool now. 1469 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 16: I mean I've been her mom the whole time. I've 1470 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 16: just been my daughter's mom the whole time. How everyone 1471 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 16: to see me is never gonna be how she sees me, 1472 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 16: because I'm just her mommy. I always have been, I 1473 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 16: always will be. I don't fall apart in front of her. 1474 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 16: I don't put it. I don't put her in any 1475 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 16: adult situation. And she doesn't have a clue if anything 1476 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 16: is going on with me. I've just been her happy 1477 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 16: mom this whole time. And I take pride in. 1478 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 9: That you switching gears. You said Brandy was on your 1479 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 9: Mount Rushmore. Yes, who else. 1480 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 5: STEVIEE. Wonder is the head of the Mount Rushmore is? 1481 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 8: His vocals are just artist. 1482 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 13: I think artistreet Okay, okay, okay, And this for everybody, 1483 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 13: or you said every artist or every singer should have 1484 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 13: this Mount Rushmore. 1485 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 16: I think every singer should have different kinds of Mount Rushmore's. 1486 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 16: Like I said, she should be on the vocal Mount Rushmore, 1487 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 16: but also artistry like in general, but she should be 1488 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 16: on everyone's vocal Mount Rushmore one hundred. 1489 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 5: Vocal, my vocal Mount Rushmo. Okay, Brandy, i'd Beyonce. 1490 01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 2: Can't put them next to each other. 1491 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 5: Have a beautiful tour. They're having a beautiful tour, please, 1492 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Yeah, Beyonce Wne Houston. 1493 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely what I wanted to make sure it was. 1494 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean that's a lineage, right, there's no Brandy without. 1495 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 8: Your last one, Brandy. 1496 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna Mariah. 1497 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 16: Yeah, we're talking about like freaky level like channel talent 1498 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 16: of like okay, well, will anybody be able to ever 1499 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 16: do that again? 1500 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 5: Type people. 1501 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 12: Well, if you want to see Kaylan and she's going 1502 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 12: to be performing at our jingle Ball in Miami and 1503 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 12: our jingle Ball in Atlanta. 1504 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 2: And we appreciate you for joining us. 1505 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 5: Thank you. We always get real deep in here. 1506 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 2: One time didn't want to come on and she's like, 1507 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 2: I ain't guys, but we got through it. 1508 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 5: We were having different conversations then. 1509 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 8: Yes, I was looking at us girl. 1510 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, it's the breakfast Club. Good morning. 1511 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 4: You make sure you're telling me to watch out for 1512 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 4: Florida mid. 1513 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 9: The craziest people in America come from the Bronx in 1514 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 9: all of Florida. 1515 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 8: Yes, you are a donkey. 1516 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 18: A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. 1517 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 8: It gave him too much money. 1518 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 17: Florida man is arrested after that. 1519 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 19: Say he riggs the door to his home in an 1520 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 19: attempt to electro hit his president. 1521 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 17: Lights police arrested at Orlando man. 1522 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 2: We're talking to famudas. 1523 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 8: The breakfast club. 1524 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 12: Bitch you donkey other day with Charlamagne to God, I 1525 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 12: don't know why y'all keep you letting him get y'all 1526 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 12: like this. 1527 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 8: No, low duvall, it's not me. It's Florida. 1528 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 9: Okay, donkey to Dave goes to a forty eight year 1529 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 9: old Florida man named Darius Davis. Okay, Darius Davis is 1530 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 9: from Miami. Dave Florida, Okay, dropping the clues bomb from Miami. 1531 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 4: Date. 1532 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 9: All right, what does y'a uncle y'alla always say about 1533 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 9: the great state of Florida? 1534 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 8: Say it with me. 1535 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 9: The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and 1536 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 9: all of Florida, and today is no exception. Okay, so luka, 1537 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 9: every black man out there who still has a hairline, 1538 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 9: all right, God bless you all. 1539 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 8: I remember those days of having one. 1540 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 9: And what bothers me the most is I feel like 1541 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,439 Speaker 9: I got cheated because back in the day, I got 1542 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 9: my wig pushed back by a whack barber. Okay, you know, 1543 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 9: one of those barbers trying to get that line sharp. 1544 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 9: But in the process of them trying to get his sharp, 1545 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 9: they just keep pushing. 1546 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 8: Your hairline back further and further. Okay. 1547 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 9: I really feel like that got me started on the 1548 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 9: path the baldness. Okay, that barber snatched my edges, all right. 1549 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 9: My hairline never fully recovered from the barber pushing my 1550 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 9: hairline back. Okay, every black man out there knows the 1551 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 9: pain of getting your hairline pushed back and then finally, 1552 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 9: at some point you just say effort, cut it all off. Okay, 1553 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 9: we were forced to go bald because a barber pushed 1554 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 9: our hairlines back, all right? 1555 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 8: Hashtag tragic. 1556 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 9: Now, Darius did something that a lot of men dream 1557 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 9: about doing when their hairline gets pushed back, and that's 1558 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 9: something is violence. What do you mean violence, Uncle Charlotte. Well, 1559 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 9: let's go the local ten news for the report. 1560 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 18: Darius Davis is in jail once again after police spent 1561 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 18: a few days looking for him following a violent encounter 1562 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 18: at a barber shop. Security video from that day shows 1563 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 18: Davis walking back into Square Biz with a gun and 1564 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 18: threatening the owner, Samuel Wilson. Wilson says this was all 1565 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 18: over an issue with Davis's hairline. The barber says he's 1566 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 18: been doing Davis's hair. 1567 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 2: For a while and never had an issue before. 1568 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 4: He wasn't a man. 1569 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 12: He had that pistol in his hand, sat in a 1570 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 12: he choked me out, got it. 1571 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 18: In the video, you can see Davis forced Wilson to 1572 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 18: the couch and hit him with the gun. Newly obtained 1573 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 18: arrest forms for Davis show police took him into custody 1574 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 18: a few days later after a traffic stop. The forty 1575 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 18: eight year old was booked into jail before appearing in 1576 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 18: bond court over the weekend. 1577 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Multiple times. I did not think he was gonna come 1578 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 2: around here and come back. 1579 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 12: I thought we might have fisted the cuff, but I 1580 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 12: didn't think he was gonna come back with a firearm. 1581 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 18: I told him, man, have a good Davis is facing 1582 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,959 Speaker 18: several charges. The judge set is bond at about thirty 1583 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 18: five thousand dollars has since posted it. 1584 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 9: First of all, before we continue the story, I want 1585 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 9: to say, sleuth, all the barbers out there dropping the 1586 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 9: clues bombs. 1587 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 8: For every barber that can hear my. 1588 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 9: Voice, say, barbers are pillars in the black community, my brothers, 1589 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 9: when you really put it in perspective, there aren't too 1590 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 9: many people more. 1591 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 8: Important to the black community. 1592 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 4: All right. 1593 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 9: Some of y'all don't go to church, but you go 1594 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 9: to a barber shop at least twice a week, all right, 1595 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 9: So the barber more important than your past. 1596 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 4: All right. 1597 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 9: Some of y'all see your Bible more than you see 1598 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 9: your doctor, which is a good thing. 1599 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 8: Because I guess you're healthy. 1600 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 9: But once again, your barber is more important to you 1601 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 9: than your doctor. Hell, some folks wouldn't even want to 1602 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 9: go to the doctor without a haircut. 1603 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 8: All right. 1604 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 9: The moral of the story is we're gonna stop acting 1605 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 9: like barber's aren't a part of our circle of life 1606 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 9: for me as spiritual leaders, therapists, barber's doctor, dermatologists, personal trainer. 1607 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 8: Okay, what is the moral of the story. 1608 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 9: The moral of the story is barber should be given 1609 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 9: the utmost respect at all times unless, and there is 1610 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 9: an unless, unless. 1611 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 8: There are terrible barber. 1612 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 9: Okay, no barber deserves violence unless, of course they are terrible. 1613 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 9: But even if they are terrible, even if there is 1614 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 9: a barber mouthpractice, they don't deserve. 1615 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,439 Speaker 8: To get a gun pulled on them, all right. There's 1616 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 8: levels to violence. 1617 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 9: Don't like your fade, then ask for a faide, all right, 1618 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 9: But pulling a gun that's too much, all right. Actually 1619 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 9: asking for a fist fight or fisticuffs is too much. 1620 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 8: Okay, you can just say he sucks. 1621 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 9: That's worse than actually pulling a gun on someone or 1622 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 9: fighting them. Because nobody wants to be the barber in 1623 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 9: the shop that nobody goes to That is one of 1624 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 9: the most lonely men in the world, you hear me, okay, 1625 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 9: And they always fat because they have nothing else to 1626 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 9: do but sit there and eat while everybody else on 1627 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 9: their feet all day because they got actual clients. 1628 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 8: All right. Now, for the record, most. 1629 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 9: People wouldn't react to having their headline pushed back in 1630 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:45,919 Speaker 9: this way. 1631 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 8: But you always have to know who you playing with. 1632 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 9: Darius is a convicted felon, all right, and he is 1633 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 9: a known violent offender. He had an arm robbery charge 1634 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 9: in ninety three and ninety eight and burglary with assault 1635 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 9: in ninety eight. He did prison time from ninety nine 1636 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 9: to two thousand folk and from two thousand and sixty 1637 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,440 Speaker 9: twenty seventeen. So clearly Darius about all that action, okay, 1638 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 9: So anything can set him off. And I don't think 1639 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 9: people understand what not having a hairline does to some men. 1640 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 8: It can trigger violence, all right. 1641 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 9: Some men don't have the head for a bald, and 1642 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,640 Speaker 9: the thought of them having to get one is infuriating. 1643 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 8: I thank god he gave me the. 1644 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 9: Kind of skull that looks cool with a bal d okay, 1645 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 9: because everyone can't do it and they know it. Everybody 1646 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 9: doesn't want to wear the man unit. Okay, everybody doesn't 1647 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 9: want to do the painting on hairlines. But they also 1648 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 9: know how ridiculous they could look with a bald. Think 1649 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 9: about you know how we had to get used to 1650 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 9: seeing Steve Harvey with a bald. Took some time for 1651 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 9: us to adjust, right, right. Remember Miguel arnmy singer, Miguel 1652 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 9: when he first came out with a baldi, looked ridiculously. 1653 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,360 Speaker 8: Okay, Lebron James couldn't have a bald. Okay, I could 1654 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 8: tell by his head shape. Yet another reason he will 1655 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,639 Speaker 8: never be Michael Joe. Okay, more are some other people 1656 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 8: who look ridiculous with a ball these jests? What do 1657 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 8: you think? Okay? 1658 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 9: Okay, First of all, I'm talking about the name Jess Cindiava. 1659 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 8: All right, anyway, I. 1660 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,680 Speaker 9: Don't know how you've been asking the moral of the 1661 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 9: stories when the only thing sharper in the clippers is 1662 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 9: your temple trim the attitude, not the argument. Okay, Please 1663 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 9: give Darius Davis the sweet sounds of the Hamiltons. 1664 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 20: You oh the day, oh the day. 1665 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 14: Ye Oh, that's crazy, Miguel head, it was crazy, ridiculous. 1666 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 9: Go back and look at Miguel when he first came 1667 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 9: out with a ball head and he did it in 1668 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 9: the reverse. Usually people start with him, didn't go Miguel 1669 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 9: started off ball go back. 1670 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 8: And look y'all. Don't remember Miguel when you first game. 1671 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 9: Definitely, definitely you don't remember Miguel when you first get money. 1672 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 2: At the ball at Yeah, that was different. 1673 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 9: Well that's that was That was all I wanted you, Miguel. 1674 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 9: You're playing the dorn he had hereby. 1675 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:16,320 Speaker 10: Doing Yeah, nah, that was you know, yeah, that's when 1676 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 10: he was boring. Oh wow, Yeah, I'm trying to tell 1677 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 10: you getting real eggy around here, you know, yeah, yeah, 1678 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:25,599 Speaker 10: yeah wow. 1679 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 19: All right, all right, well thank you for that donkey 1680 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 19: to day, sir. You said one too many damns when 1681 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 19: looking at a man, right, you looked at the man. 1682 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 19: You looked at Miguel for thirty seconds and said seven damns. 1683 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 19: He ain't need no seven damns because. 1684 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 12: There's a bunch of different pictures. All right, anyway, thank 1685 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 12: you for that donkey to day, sir. 1686 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 8: Yes, which guy's crazy? 1687 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 4: Everybody is j N V. 1688 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 12: Jesse Larry Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club 1689 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 12: lawl of Roses here as well, and we got a 1690 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 12: special guest in the building, Pat Pools. 1691 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 8: Pat pooh pooh. What's up. 1692 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 2: How you feeling, man? 1693 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 1: I think it's great. 1694 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 4: Man. 1695 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 8: I see you celebrated your daughter's birthday the other day. 1696 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. I did McDonald's party. 1697 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 21: Yeah, she turned seven years old. That's nice, man, beautiful thing. Man, 1698 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 21: enjoy they get big fast happen so fast, man, you 1699 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 21: know what I'm saying. 1700 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's a blessing. 1701 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,719 Speaker 8: I feel like you you should have been did bars 1702 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 8: on Wheels? 1703 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 22: Yeah? 1704 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah I did. 1705 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,639 Speaker 8: That's a fact. That's a fact. What is Balls on Wheels? 1706 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 8: First of all? 1707 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1708 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 8: So Balls on Wheels a journey to save hip hop? 1709 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 4: Man. 1710 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 21: It's me basically taking what I was doing on Instagram 1711 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 21: to the next level. I mean so sometimes when I 1712 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:31,880 Speaker 21: post the videos and be driving in the car rapping, 1713 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 21: some people go into comments and they be like, Okay, 1714 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 21: but where's it going. 1715 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what. 1716 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 8: I want to see? 1717 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: There you go? So I want the journey to save 1718 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 1: hip hop? You know what I'm saying. So that's that's 1719 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: the name of the project. 1720 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 16: Man. 1721 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 21: I didn't want to just do it as an album. 1722 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 21: I wanted to do it as a short film and 1723 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:48,679 Speaker 21: just do something that was never done before. 1724 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 9: You know, you've always prided yourself on just being a 1725 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,680 Speaker 9: pure lyricist, and you know everybody likes to do the 1726 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 9: melodies and the vibes warding the bars. What do you 1727 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 9: think lyric first rappers need to do to stay culturally 1728 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,719 Speaker 9: relevant without compromising the craft. 1729 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,759 Speaker 21: I think just be be themselves, man. I think nobody 1730 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,679 Speaker 21: could do you better than you, you know what I'm saying. 1731 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 21: Like you're the only one with your DNA and you 1732 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 21: gotta utilize that. Sometimes people try to go outside of 1733 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 21: themselves and you cheating yourself because you could have just 1734 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 21: been yourself and you never know what the outcome could 1735 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 21: have been. So to answer the question is, just be yourself. Man. 1736 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,360 Speaker 9: So when you write today, are you just trying to 1737 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 9: out wrap everybody? Are you just more focused on saying 1738 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 9: something meaningful because you've always said meaningful things you want too? 1739 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 21: Nah, man, it's just I study the craft. I practice 1740 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,679 Speaker 21: my craft so long that it comes out like that pause. 1741 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,599 Speaker 21: You know what I'm saying. I'm not trying to outrap nobody. 1742 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 21: It happens naturally, you know what I'm saying. 1743 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 13: To be honest, now, I know the project is all 1744 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 13: about saving hip hop, but at the end of your 1745 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,760 Speaker 13: visual you basically flip it where it's like, you can't 1746 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 13: save hip hop. And one of the things that you 1747 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,240 Speaker 13: show without giving too much of it is the conversation 1748 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,760 Speaker 13: around like, you know, the drugs and things that infiltrated 1749 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,880 Speaker 13: the culture. So first of all, I guess, you know, 1750 01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 13: obvious question is why would you why include that? And 1751 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 13: then second question to that is, if we can't save 1752 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 13: hip hop, then what's your real mission? 1753 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 8: Like how right? 1754 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 21: So you know, I think that played a major part 1755 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,800 Speaker 21: to the demise of about a culture of about hip hop, 1756 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,360 Speaker 21: you know, the rest in peace to guys like Mac Miller, 1757 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 21: young artists who were just dying from drug overdose. I 1758 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,080 Speaker 21: think all of those things, man, where they glorified us 1759 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 21: using drugs and you got kids odean on it. So 1760 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:23,680 Speaker 21: I just wanted to shine a light on that and 1761 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,599 Speaker 21: create awareness to talk about it. And as far as 1762 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 21: at the ending when I said, you know, can't save them, 1763 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 21: you know you gotta watch part two to see the 1764 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 21: continue to get the conclusion of that. But that's how 1765 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 21: I feel sometimes, man, Like when I say I'm on 1766 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 21: a journey up to save hip hop. I'm a part 1767 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 21: of the culture, Like I lived this for real, So 1768 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 21: anytime I step in front of the microphone, that's my 1769 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 21: goal to elevate the game. But it feels helpless sometimes, man, 1770 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 21: you know what I'm saying, So. 1771 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 4: How do we change that? Right? 1772 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 12: Because of course hip hop took a turn right where 1773 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 12: you know, the sellers became the users and that whole thing. 1774 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,600 Speaker 12: But it was still a place where there was negativity 1775 01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 12: and hip hop, which kind of hurt hip hop. Right 1776 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 12: didn't have to be a DM Brothers getting to jail. 1777 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 12: But I felt like there is a strong line of 1778 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,600 Speaker 12: negative and positive when it comes to it. 1779 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 2: You feel like that positive is not being heard anymore. 1780 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: It's not even that. 1781 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 21: I just feel like, you know, I feel like negative 1782 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 21: and positive existing life period. Sometimes people put too much 1783 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,400 Speaker 21: on hip hop, like they gotta stop and if a 1784 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 21: cat getting too much, if a cat gets stuck in 1785 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 21: the tree. All these rappers rapping about cats getting stuck 1786 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,560 Speaker 21: in the trees, This is why this happened, you know 1787 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 21: what I'm saying, Like, I feel like people blame hip 1788 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 21: hop for things that actually go on in America. America 1789 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 21: has a problem with violence and all that when hip 1790 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 21: hop was positive, I've seen negativity going on, so I 1791 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 21: don't blame hip hop for those things. Actually, I feel 1792 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 21: like hip hop save a lot of lives, you know 1793 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 21: what I'm saying. You know how many jobs y'all wouldn't 1794 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 21: even be sitting here to hip hop, right, So when 1795 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 21: people like to blame hip hop for negative things, you know, 1796 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 21: I don't look at it like that. I look at 1797 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,360 Speaker 21: it like we have those issues living in this country period. 1798 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,680 Speaker 9: I saw Robin Roberts asked fifty that about the Diddy doc. 1799 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,080 Speaker 9: She was like, is this an indictment of hip hop 1800 01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 9: or something like this? What hip hop got to do? 1801 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 4: It? Nothing right? 1802 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:00,679 Speaker 1: Right? 1803 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1804 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,800 Speaker 21: See they always dragging hip if you notice that, and 1805 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 21: I think no other genre no. I think part of 1806 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 21: the reason why that happened is is because they don't 1807 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 21: like that, you know, black billionaires and millionaires are being 1808 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,599 Speaker 21: made out of it. So I think while we got 1809 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 21: our own con putting hip hop down so much, they 1810 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 21: need to be away of that. 1811 01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 9: How is your perspective on the streets change now that 1812 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,200 Speaker 9: you're you know, older and just more reflective. As soon 1813 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,720 Speaker 9: as you walk in, and we wanted to remind you 1814 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 9: of when you used to put hands on people. 1815 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 8: You know that you did. I'm talking about what was 1816 01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,639 Speaker 8: your question? Respective when the streets changed? 1817 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: When when you say street change, what you mean though? 1818 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 9: Just being just being an older person can reflect on 1819 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 9: you know, how things used to be. 1820 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,400 Speaker 8: Things glorify, that's the fact. That's the fact. 1821 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,679 Speaker 21: Yeah, I respect it, man, I respect and I love growth. 1822 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 21: I think it's very important. I embrace it. And I'm 1823 01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:58,600 Speaker 21: all about positivity. 1824 01:15:58,640 --> 01:15:58,760 Speaker 6: Bro. 1825 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,600 Speaker 1: Bro, you know what I'm saying. And you look at me, 1826 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 1827 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 21: You see me, Like NB said, I got my history, 1828 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,559 Speaker 21: but when they really put the light on me, I said, 1829 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 21: what black love? Something positive? Man, I don't wear that 1830 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 21: the streets on my sleeve. I don't need to, you 1831 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 21: know what I'm saying. I always showcase my talent, you 1832 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 21: know what I mean, and something positive about uplifting our people. 1833 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 9: So if you could speak to these young men who 1834 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,559 Speaker 9: idolized the street life, what would you tell them about 1835 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,360 Speaker 9: the real cost of that year? 1836 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 21: I would say, don't do it. It's not worth it, 1837 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 21: you know what I'm saying. But I always tell my 1838 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 21: young brothers who I see in the street, and I 1839 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 21: always try to point this out to them. You know, 1840 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 21: look at your look at look around at your crew, 1841 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 21: And I got to be honest with them all, y'all 1842 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,680 Speaker 21: not gonna make it out. You know, I many you 1843 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 21: know how many individuals I grow up with us when 1844 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,720 Speaker 21: I was younger. They're not here no more. I'm sure 1845 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 21: you got homies like that. They literally lost their lives. 1846 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 21: And at the time when y'all was together, y'all was 1847 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 21: hanging out, y'all was running in the street, you never 1848 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 21: thought that they would be gone. So I always tell them, 1849 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,720 Speaker 21: you look around, one of y'all or two or maybe three, 1850 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:58,640 Speaker 21: y'all not gonna make it. 1851 01:16:58,640 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 8: It might be you. 1852 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 21: So if you think that's worth it, continue in the street. 1853 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 21: But it's not worth it, bro, So you know, get 1854 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 21: out of that. 1855 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 13: You mentioned black love earlier. I know Cloris is here 1856 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 13: as well, but I wanted to go back to that centuary. 1857 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,479 Speaker 13: I wanted to go back to that time period because 1858 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 13: I feel like, for the longest time, prior to your 1859 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 13: relationship now, you and Remy were like the emblem of 1860 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 13: like black love positivity, and then everything just switched publicly. 1861 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 13: And I know you talk about even in hip hop, 1862 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 13: like you know how things are thrown on hip hop 1863 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,719 Speaker 13: and thrown on us negatively when that moment was happening 1864 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 13: publicly with you and Remy, What was pap Who's feeling 1865 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,600 Speaker 13: because it was so positive for so long and it 1866 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 13: kind of just changed everything. What were you feeling as 1867 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 13: everything started to you know, happened online. 1868 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,439 Speaker 1: It was corny. It was corny. It's always corny to 1869 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 1: do social media. You know what I'm saying. 1870 01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 21: Who wants that? Who wants to be a part of 1871 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,200 Speaker 21: the circus? So I just feel like it was corny. 1872 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 4: You got a tack for black love early on. 1873 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 8: Wow, somebody said it. 1874 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 2: We have conversations about what love and why we show. 1875 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,760 Speaker 12: We had, you know, behind the scenes conversation, but you 1876 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,960 Speaker 12: got to test for it when you got attacked for 1877 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 12: why did you think you got attacked for showing and 1878 01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 12: expressing love to the individual you were with? Like why 1879 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 12: do you think that happened? 1880 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 21: And why there's a couple going It's a couple of 1881 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 21: different things. So initially when she became incarcerated, they was 1882 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,599 Speaker 21: killing me. They was like, Yo, hold up, damn nah, 1883 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,160 Speaker 21: he's an idiot, He's dumb all this book right. I 1884 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 21: ain't care though, because that's that was my real life 1885 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,160 Speaker 21: at the time, and then as it progressed. One time 1886 01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 21: Double Excel that reached out to me and they was like, Yo, 1887 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 21: we want to follow you one day and document your journey, 1888 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 21: like what's going on with you? And they followed me 1889 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 21: to the supermarket. I went and got groceries for her, 1890 01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:45,800 Speaker 21: you know what I'm saying. Then I went on the visit, 1891 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 21: brought the grocery. They set on the visit with me, 1892 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 21: and they put out that article. When they put out 1893 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 21: that article, it kind of changed. The outlook kind of 1894 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,640 Speaker 21: changed for a high second. Everybody was like Wow, they 1895 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,320 Speaker 21: couldn't believe it, and it was cool. I kept going. 1896 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,559 Speaker 21: But what you kind of talking about is we were 1897 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,680 Speaker 21: love hip hop. Yeah yeah, well you had mixed. It 1898 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 21: was mixed, you know what I'm saying. Like the women 1899 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 21: were embracing it. But I go through the toll booth 1900 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 21: and I go get to do my money because they 1901 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 21: ain't have the right. And he'd be like, oh, man, 1902 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,599 Speaker 21: you've put in my household, man, my woman to. 1903 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 5: Man. 1904 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I need to be more like you. It's just change, 1905 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,560 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So the dudes was always. 1906 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:31,479 Speaker 21: Hating, but the women, older women all different age groups. 1907 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 8: They always embraced it. 1908 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,479 Speaker 13: And then you did your your own spin off, the 1909 01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 13: Black Love spin off, which you guys have more creative 1910 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 13: control over at the time, right, Yeah, So if you 1911 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,760 Speaker 13: felt like kind of the tide was changing when you 1912 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,600 Speaker 13: guys got on reality TV, why was it important for 1913 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 13: you to do that like second installment? 1914 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 21: Because you know, the opportunity was there to show more 1915 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 21: of us. You know, when you're on Love and Hip Hop, 1916 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,679 Speaker 21: you just got like a segment, you know what I'm saying. 1917 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,439 Speaker 21: So it was just that and people wanted to see 1918 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 21: more of us at that time, so we was like, 1919 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 21: all right, cool, let's do it. I think we did 1920 01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 21: the holiday special first and then it went from there. 1921 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,400 Speaker 21: But going back to what you were saying earlier, like 1922 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,640 Speaker 21: when I first shot it, I was like, oh, they 1923 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 21: about to kill me man when they come out, because 1924 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:07,160 Speaker 21: people never saw that side of me, you know what 1925 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 21: I'm saying. But it was surprisingly people embraced it. I 1926 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,599 Speaker 21: think the world was tired of seeing our culture getting 1927 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 21: put down, drink skinting, thrown on each other, and just 1928 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 21: the bad stigma on our relationships, you know what I'm saying. 1929 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:20,600 Speaker 12: You have ever regretted at all putting that much of 1930 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:21,759 Speaker 12: your life on camera. 1931 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,160 Speaker 21: I don't I don't regret it at all because it 1932 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,240 Speaker 21: was real. It wasn't like nothing was or hears nothing 1933 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 21: was scripted. People just saw what was going on at 1934 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 21: that time. 1935 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,680 Speaker 12: But you know the thing with it is like I 1936 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 12: get it, but now people are so dialed into your life, 1937 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 12: but now there is no moment where it's like, hold on, 1938 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,400 Speaker 12: let me figure this out. Because now they're like, naw, 1939 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 12: you showed me this. You showed me the baby, you 1940 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 12: showed me the one year old party, you showed me that, 1941 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 12: you showed me this. 1942 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:44,000 Speaker 4: I love that. 1943 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,880 Speaker 12: But then when it's like when you say, you know what, 1944 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 12: I need to take a break, They're like, nah, you can't. 1945 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 21: No, No, I love it. I'll tell you why. See 1946 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 21: this is what happens with celebrities. And I kind of 1947 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 21: said this before. When it's all good, right, when when 1948 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,760 Speaker 21: when y'all buying until our careers, y'all watching the TV show, 1949 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 21: y'all come into the performances. The parents is the walkthroughs. 1950 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:07,960 Speaker 21: I bring you in the room where my daughter is born. 1951 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,639 Speaker 21: You come to the wedding, you see everything right, okay, 1952 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,680 Speaker 21: And then soon as something happened with these celebrities. What's 1953 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,680 Speaker 21: the first thing they say, y'all don't know me like that. 1954 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,280 Speaker 21: Y'all don't know what's going on in my life. Correct, 1955 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,400 Speaker 21: So I'm glad that I give y'all an open book 1956 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,759 Speaker 21: so when someone wants to lie in, when you guys 1957 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 21: had been there all along, y'all seen this. 1958 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 1: So that's all. 1959 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,599 Speaker 9: Now, there was one thing that came out of that 1960 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 9: man and you said you wrote ninety percent of remies rap, 1961 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 9: including Conceited. 1962 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:33,519 Speaker 4: Was that true? 1963 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 1: No comment? 1964 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 4: Man. 1965 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 21: You know what I'm saying, I wish you the best, 1966 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 21: and that's that's what I'm gonna say. 1967 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1968 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,920 Speaker 21: Like I said earlier, I never wanted to be a 1969 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,920 Speaker 21: part of that. But sometimes your hand is falced. You 1970 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,680 Speaker 21: know what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta do what 1971 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,720 Speaker 21: you gotta do. But I wish you the best, man, 1972 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,439 Speaker 21: You know, I mean, I got I got an amazing 1973 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 21: best friend in my life right now and we're happy. 1974 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:53,360 Speaker 9: Man. 1975 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,880 Speaker 2: Somebody said, you know that was a depressing media. It 1976 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 2: was a hard time because we know y'all. 1977 01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean. 1978 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 8: Over y'all know us. But sometimes people pretend like they 1979 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 8: don't know us. 1980 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:03,559 Speaker 1: That's what get on my nerves. 1981 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 17: I think from it's like what happened, like m M. 1982 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,960 Speaker 21: I mean, like I said, y'all was there every step 1983 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 21: of the way. Y'all was there when I was riding 1984 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 21: up there to the prison. Y'all seen me fighting court officers, 1985 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,599 Speaker 21: getting thrown out of the court room. 1986 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:17,960 Speaker 4: It was. 1987 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,000 Speaker 21: It was in the newspapers. You know what I'm saying, 1988 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,720 Speaker 21: y'all seen everything. How can I come to y'all and 1989 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 21: say something didn't happen. Y'all gotta stop, man, like, come on. 1990 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 21: So that's it, I think aunt the time. 1991 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 12: Well, I know for myself, I just wanted y'all to 1992 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 12: fix it because I known y'all so long and not 1993 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,759 Speaker 12: fixed the relationship, just the friendship the parents. 1994 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 22: To just fix that part, that's what that's that takes time, 1995 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,839 Speaker 22: Like it's a divorce. It's not something that just happens overnight, 1996 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 22: you know what I'm saying. But people, life don't stop 1997 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,800 Speaker 22: because of that, you know what I mean. It's papers, 1998 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,320 Speaker 22: it's time. It's all this stuff that gotta happen. But 1999 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,440 Speaker 22: at the end of the day, we move forward. 2000 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:52,800 Speaker 5: With our lives. 2001 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,720 Speaker 21: Like like I said, I wish you the best. We 2002 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,920 Speaker 21: got some great, amazing things going on. And like I said, 2003 01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 21: this is my best friend right here. 2004 01:22:59,080 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 20: Man. 2005 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 1: We we live in our life. 2006 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,760 Speaker 22: We've been together over a year and a half now, 2007 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,680 Speaker 22: it'll be two years next year in September. 2008 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 17: We at the end of the year. 2009 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,200 Speaker 22: Some of this stuff is just so old, you know, 2010 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 22: it's so old to talk about, to bring up, to 2011 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 22: keep harping on it. 2012 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 17: It's like they're separated. She got somebody too, Like, don't. 2013 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:22,719 Speaker 22: Act like you're just over here like she's happy, We're happy, 2014 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:23,720 Speaker 22: and that's it. 2015 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, what is it cordial? Are you 2016 01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 2: just say nah? 2017 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,240 Speaker 4: I'm just it is what it is. 2018 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,439 Speaker 21: I'm always cordial, bro, cordiate, I'm cordial with everybody. Like, 2019 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,480 Speaker 21: come on, bro, I'm not problematic. 2020 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:34,680 Speaker 8: Man. 2021 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,439 Speaker 21: You know y'all know this stuff. Man, Yeah, we get 2022 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 21: as y'all. Let me just go out and say, why 2023 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,800 Speaker 21: would something happen y'all Like y'all don't know people like 2024 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,360 Speaker 21: I know and be like cause and we got dogs. 2025 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 1: He's a DJ he from Queens. 2026 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 21: So when somebody come over here and say I saw 2027 01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,720 Speaker 21: Envy doing x Y, I've been watching this for twenty 2028 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:54,200 Speaker 21: something years. 2029 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,280 Speaker 8: I never heard that next to his. 2030 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 21: Name, Like certain things they can't put on your jacket, 2031 01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 21: you know what I'm saying. I know Charla Mayne, he 2032 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 21: speaks about mental health, you know. I mean he's into 2033 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 21: different things. He's into his relationship with his wife. 2034 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 1: If I've been. 2035 01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,960 Speaker 21: Watching this man fifteen years, like certain things on my here, 2036 01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 21: Charlamagne did that man. 2037 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:12,000 Speaker 4: A rap? 2038 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 1: You tell me he's up here rapping and Charlamagne told 2039 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,960 Speaker 1: his face you whack. 2040 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,800 Speaker 8: But I think that's gonna say he did that. But 2041 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:20,800 Speaker 8: you can't hold me finish. 2042 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,160 Speaker 21: You can't just come with some left field that I've 2043 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 21: never heard twenty years of me following this man career 2044 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 21: since he was on Wendy Williams. 2045 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,920 Speaker 1: Right, Nah, that don't go with him. 2046 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 2: Papoost punching somebody in the face. I believe you keep 2047 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 2: doing that. 2048 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,600 Speaker 13: Wait, Like to your point in Champ, I know you 2049 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,519 Speaker 13: mentioned like it's old, but I think the reason why 2050 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,800 Speaker 13: people bring it back up is because we saw so 2051 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,000 Speaker 13: much and we knew you, and then when everything happened, 2052 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,559 Speaker 13: there's claims of like you cheating and like all these things. 2053 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like if it's a new artist, 2054 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:54,640 Speaker 1: I can get it. 2055 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 21: We don't know me all these years in constant rate 2056 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 21: or never been on my name ever. 2057 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 1: That was out here with me. I was coming to 2058 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 1: the old standard. 2059 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 9: That is a good point that path making, because come on, 2060 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,519 Speaker 9: all the years she was incultorrator, we. 2061 01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Never heard of the street all of a. 2062 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,760 Speaker 21: Sudden, boom out of nowhere, an asteroid hit, like, come on. 2063 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,680 Speaker 13: Man, So that didn't happen because she says she had 2064 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,120 Speaker 13: got into it with somebody over some allegations, and. 2065 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,400 Speaker 21: Like I said, man, I wish you had the best 2066 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,479 Speaker 21: man me speaking about that. It goes into like a 2067 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,600 Speaker 21: whole and I ain't had to do that, you know 2068 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:29,160 Speaker 21: what I mean. 2069 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,439 Speaker 13: Clarse, I know on your side of it, like people 2070 01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 13: always like push back because it's like he's still married 2071 01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,240 Speaker 13: and he's this and he's that. You're like, they're separated. 2072 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,040 Speaker 13: We're happy for you trying to move forward in this 2073 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,200 Speaker 13: new relationship. Like how tough is that when that conversation 2074 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:41,840 Speaker 13: comes up for you. 2075 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 17: I don't know why they act like people don't get divorced. 2076 01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,360 Speaker 22: It's the craziest thing to me, Like everything the most 2077 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,160 Speaker 22: thing that happened, and like people are like, we don't, 2078 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,200 Speaker 22: we don't understand the breakups and relationships you can never 2079 01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:53,920 Speaker 22: You're never gonna break up with your family because they're 2080 01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,720 Speaker 22: your blood. You gotta deal with them, your mom and 2081 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,559 Speaker 22: your daddy, your crazy sister, your outrageous cousin. But when 2082 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 22: it comes to a relationship that breaks up all the time, 2083 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,559 Speaker 22: marriages in all the time, divorces happen. 2084 01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 17: I don't know why. 2085 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 22: It's like, oh, divorces is impossible. When they don't when 2086 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 22: it's divorce fiul public, whatever the heck that was, It's like, 2087 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:20,480 Speaker 22: and we're together all the time, every single day, ebony awards, fights, 2088 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,720 Speaker 22: walk outs at home, cooking, like it's harder for the 2089 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,080 Speaker 22: fans that followed. 2090 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,120 Speaker 17: Them to let go than it is for them. 2091 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:29,720 Speaker 2: I feel like God. 2092 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,360 Speaker 21: I will say this though, I will say this because 2093 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 21: I don't think this is wrong towards anybody. I will 2094 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 21: say this none that it's true. Man, I come from 2095 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,960 Speaker 21: a big family like you. If you really follow me 2096 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 21: and you're not just around for the gossip. You see 2097 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,040 Speaker 21: my daughter, you see my sisters, you see my mother. 2098 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,880 Speaker 21: You see so many beautiful women in my life who 2099 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,759 Speaker 21: love me to death. I mean not only because I 2100 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,559 Speaker 21: was there for them when they need me. I fought 2101 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,280 Speaker 21: all they battles. I don't just do it for the 2102 01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,160 Speaker 21: person that I'm with. I do this for my children, 2103 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,200 Speaker 21: like I don't. I've had to put hands on my 2104 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,679 Speaker 21: daughter's boyfriends to protect them. I'm being honest. I'm gonna 2105 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,919 Speaker 21: protect them, bro and to provide us. So anything outside 2106 01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 21: of that, it doesn't, it doesn't go. 2107 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,120 Speaker 12: But I think the main thing I think it doesn't 2108 01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,960 Speaker 12: when when the fans follow your life and like you said, 2109 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 12: we don't know what goes on, We only know what 2110 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,599 Speaker 12: we see, and then all of a sudden, on Tuesday, 2111 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:19,640 Speaker 12: we start seeing. 2112 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 2: These these tweets and these these Instagram posts. 2113 01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:24,080 Speaker 21: Were like, but that's not how it happened though, See 2114 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 21: that's what that's another that's what I see. I know, 2115 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 21: but you said it earlier, right, you said, Yo, pat 2116 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,240 Speaker 21: putting hands on somebody, right y'all. 2117 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,200 Speaker 8: Seeing all this happen right in front of your face. 2118 01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 21: And you're round about none of this was said when 2119 01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 21: that's all this was going on. 2120 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 8: See that y'all making me get into this. I don't 2121 01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:40,639 Speaker 8: want to do it. 2122 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,559 Speaker 13: Trying to figure out clarity because like there's like so 2123 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 13: many questions because it's like one day literally you just 2124 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,120 Speaker 13: wake up and and boom, we're we're That's not. 2125 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 8: What happened, though, I don't know why y'all starting it 2126 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 8: from there. 2127 01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,800 Speaker 13: Okay, so let's back up, because what you're referring to 2128 01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 13: is the allegations that she was cheating. 2129 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,559 Speaker 21: I don't I don't even want to. Like I said, 2130 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 21: I wish her the best. I got nothing bad said. 2131 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,639 Speaker 22: Everybody knows that before I came into the picture. 2132 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,680 Speaker 17: Now it's just these two in the picture. Y'all know 2133 01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 17: where it started. 2134 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:07,840 Speaker 5: It had. 2135 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,320 Speaker 22: I had nothing to do with anything as far as 2136 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 22: when me and him got together, he was he was 2137 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 22: already separated, So y'all know what happened before that. 2138 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 9: So but I got the green, I beat rappers upweenble 2139 01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:28,840 Speaker 9: force out. 2140 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:29,960 Speaker 5: Now man. 2141 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,640 Speaker 6: Hip hop to. 2142 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,200 Speaker 21: Tell me that when when the day she reference to 2143 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:36,760 Speaker 21: turn to tell me? 2144 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:37,920 Speaker 1: That's the first day you heard about this. 2145 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,000 Speaker 21: You ain't see hold on, hold on, hold on second. 2146 01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 21: You ain't see everything that was going on for a 2147 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 21: whole year before that, the whole I'm gonna tell you 2148 01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,760 Speaker 21: why why y'all only wanted to start. 2149 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,439 Speaker 17: You said you didn't want to go there. 2150 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,280 Speaker 1: Confusing because I didn't even know that was going on. 2151 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,719 Speaker 12: Before before close was in the picture, you hear rumors, 2152 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,960 Speaker 12: but then when you look at your lives, you don't 2153 01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,040 Speaker 12: see any you don't see any turbulent turbulence. So it's 2154 01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:05,000 Speaker 12: not like you see anything when you hear anything, you know, 2155 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:07,519 Speaker 12: held it down. 2156 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,600 Speaker 2: Even when I heard rumors, I would reach out to 2157 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 2: Joe just like yo, just checking on to make sure 2158 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:11,920 Speaker 2: they just checking them the good. 2159 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 12: He was like, bro, they good. So I didn't hear 2160 01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 12: it too. But so you know with rumors, because they 2161 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 12: say rumors all the time. I mean the rumors Charlamagne 2162 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 12: gave we know not I don't know, but the time. 2163 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,680 Speaker 12: So it's like when you didn't, y'all didn't confirm. But 2164 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,400 Speaker 12: the night I'm like, all right, cool. And then when 2165 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,840 Speaker 12: that day happened the tweets, it still was like, but 2166 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,920 Speaker 12: before before tweets. 2167 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,200 Speaker 8: Before we heard that Pat put hands on the guy. 2168 01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,360 Speaker 13: In the battle, heard that yes, and even that I 2169 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,840 Speaker 13: tried to figure that out. I reached out to certain 2170 01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 13: people that were facilitating things, and no one would comment 2171 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:40,479 Speaker 13: on it, so we can't. 2172 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:41,720 Speaker 17: It's like what do we speak to? 2173 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 13: And that's why now you're here and we're asking you, like, okay, 2174 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,680 Speaker 13: so what was before that, because there were allegations that 2175 01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,759 Speaker 13: she was dealing with the block Easy the Black captains 2176 01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 13: prior to us seeing them together. Whatever the situation is 2177 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:54,919 Speaker 13: now with them, was that what was happening. 2178 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:56,720 Speaker 21: I mean, you said it yourself, You heard that, you 2179 01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,600 Speaker 21: saw allegations. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not 2180 01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,680 Speaker 21: here to bash the man't say anything, but he not. 2181 01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:01,599 Speaker 17: The type of talk. 2182 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,639 Speaker 22: Pap don't do a lot of talking. Like I got 2183 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:07,120 Speaker 22: a way bigger mouth than him. Okay, I mean, like Paul, no, 2184 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,760 Speaker 22: whatever you want to say, whatever you want to put it. 2185 01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,320 Speaker 17: But he's not like that. 2186 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 22: Like he's he's really like about like family and friendship 2187 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 22: and fixing things like he's he's really about that. You 2188 01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,360 Speaker 22: know what I'm saying. Like us as women, well women, yeah, 2189 01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,840 Speaker 22: we will tell it all because I because I love 2190 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 22: the truth. You know what I'm saying. 2191 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:28,360 Speaker 17: I put the truth out there. 2192 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,320 Speaker 22: And the thing is like when like come to the 2193 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,720 Speaker 22: truth is like he likes to keep his stuff and 2194 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,560 Speaker 22: handle his stuff privately, you know what I'm saying, and 2195 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:40,360 Speaker 22: respect this stuff. 2196 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,960 Speaker 17: And he's always going to be like that. You know 2197 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 17: what I'm saying. 2198 01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,200 Speaker 22: He's not ever gonna change even now, like this whole 2199 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,960 Speaker 22: conversation is like y'all getting a lot out of him 2200 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:49,880 Speaker 22: because he don't do this. 2201 01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,360 Speaker 17: He don't because he's moved so forward. 2202 01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:56,639 Speaker 22: We're like just so happy and he just whatever happened happened. 2203 01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,080 Speaker 22: We all know that you go through things through it. 2204 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 22: We all been through a break before. You may not 2205 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:02,599 Speaker 22: have been through a divorce, but you've been through a breakup, 2206 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,200 Speaker 22: been with for a long time. You got to go 2207 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 22: through own stuff. He's healed, he's moved on, and he's 2208 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,920 Speaker 22: just in a better place. So it's just like with that, 2209 01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,160 Speaker 22: when people put stuff in they're like, oh, you want 2210 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:13,840 Speaker 22: to defend it, But even him, he don't even want 2211 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,840 Speaker 22: to defend it because he like he is. 2212 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 2: Who he is. 2213 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, who wants 2214 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:19,760 Speaker 8: to be a part of the circus man? 2215 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 2: Nobody? 2216 01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 1: When you ever saw us doing that? 2217 01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,599 Speaker 8: Never happened before I had a movie coming out. 2218 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,040 Speaker 22: I definitely didn't want to be a part of it. 2219 01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,360 Speaker 22: My movie dropped just a couple of days on Christmas. 2220 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,280 Speaker 22: Christmas Day, I was. 2221 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:36,960 Speaker 10: Like, I'm like, oh myn I was losing my mind. 2222 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 17: I'm like, what's going on here? 2223 01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,040 Speaker 22: So even me, I'm like, let me just get far 2224 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,040 Speaker 22: away from this as possible. But I'm still with him, 2225 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:45,080 Speaker 22: you know what I'm saying. 2226 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,560 Speaker 8: So now here, Clarissa, like promote that movie. 2227 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:52,080 Speaker 22: Now, But it's like I'm in a different text bracket 2228 01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,599 Speaker 22: than that to have to use that to promote my movie. 2229 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,320 Speaker 22: My movie did well, it's still doing well. It's up 2230 01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,519 Speaker 22: on Prime video. You haven't seen it, The Fire Inside. 2231 01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,439 Speaker 22: But I don't want my name connected to stuff like that. 2232 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,599 Speaker 22: I never have before this thing with him, you never seen. 2233 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,479 Speaker 22: You might see me into a couple of little beefs 2234 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 22: online with a couple of fighters and stuff like that, 2235 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,600 Speaker 22: but you never seen nothing about like relationship being with 2236 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:14,799 Speaker 22: a dude who got somebody. 2237 01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,519 Speaker 17: You never seen that. I'm my type of woman. 2238 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:17,720 Speaker 8: But man with me, he with me. 2239 01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 17: I don't do second place. 2240 01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:19,600 Speaker 5: I never have. 2241 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,920 Speaker 22: I got two Olympic gold medals, nineteen World championships. Why 2242 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,240 Speaker 22: would I have to be second place to another woman 2243 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 22: for like what do I look like? 2244 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:29,240 Speaker 17: You know what I'm saying. 2245 01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,640 Speaker 21: So that's my thing of like bars on Wheels, The 2246 01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,600 Speaker 21: Journey to Save Hip Hop out now produced by my 2247 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,240 Speaker 21: brother Sean to males by the way, he did the 2248 01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,839 Speaker 21: whole project dj MV played the music. 2249 01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,280 Speaker 9: That I told him I was gonna let him rap 2250 01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,240 Speaker 9: for you while you was here. I want to bring 2251 01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,680 Speaker 9: him in. L Russell recently was talking about how he 2252 01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 9: came up here and he rapped and it changed his 2253 01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,720 Speaker 9: trajectory and so a lot of people see that now, 2254 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,719 Speaker 9: so they want something like, YO, introduce yourself. 2255 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:10,160 Speaker 4: Man from London store was up the past. We've known 2256 01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:11,280 Speaker 4: our man a long. 2257 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 12: Time and he's a rapper. His his records are starting 2258 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,320 Speaker 12: to take off. He showed me his videos and all 2259 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:17,320 Speaker 12: that other stuff. 2260 01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,639 Speaker 8: And we're gonna let him take a deep breth. 2261 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,720 Speaker 21: Okay, you got the beat. 2262 01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 2: What was the other The other dude that came up here? 2263 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,880 Speaker 12: One guy signed It was Josh and it was Josh 2264 01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,280 Speaker 12: and Don Don Tylli. 2265 01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,760 Speaker 2: We used to come up here all the time. Let's go, 2266 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:37,600 Speaker 2: no pressure. 2267 01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:42,040 Speaker 1: The phone matter. 2268 01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:50,919 Speaker 23: It started with a dream. I left Holm at seventeen. 2269 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,160 Speaker 23: I come from South London. Baby, you don't see that 2270 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,320 Speaker 23: on the screen. They used to tell me that you 2271 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,960 Speaker 23: will be someone that don't achieve. I've used to tell 2272 01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,760 Speaker 23: myself that's something that I won't believe. When it came 2273 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 23: from our family, it really hurt me deep. So I 2274 01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,400 Speaker 23: lot myself inside the bedroom cry before I sleep. Told 2275 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,439 Speaker 23: them that I want to be what I want to be, 2276 01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,120 Speaker 23: but they rather me inside the cell or see the boy. 2277 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,639 Speaker 23: The Seas lost both grandma's in six months where they live. 2278 01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 2: When I go broke my heart. 2279 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:17,719 Speaker 8: I was crying on my knees. 2280 01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,880 Speaker 23: But that's calmer because I've done the same to my mama. 2281 01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:23,040 Speaker 23: Now I see life balancing out life and really is 2282 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,439 Speaker 23: a beast. So I'm sorry, mommy, because I know you 2283 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,519 Speaker 23: couldn't rescue me. I was fascinated by the street saying, 2284 01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,240 Speaker 23: well me, no degree. Imagine having you a child that 2285 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,840 Speaker 23: speaks the way I speak. I'll probably go and lose 2286 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,200 Speaker 23: my mind to turn my back on me. 2287 01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:36,679 Speaker 2: Crazy how I. 2288 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,439 Speaker 23: Talk about myself like it's so casually because my self 2289 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:40,960 Speaker 23: esteem is not My traumas got. 2290 01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:41,479 Speaker 6: So mad for me. 2291 01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:43,400 Speaker 2: Couldn't figure out a part to take. 2292 01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:44,520 Speaker 8: I found it gradually. 2293 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 23: Last time a girl she said she loved me, I said, actually, 2294 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:48,960 Speaker 23: love it satisfactory. 2295 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,759 Speaker 8: I'm closer to its sanity. Every day a battle. 2296 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,280 Speaker 23: I just want to see my family, but I can't 2297 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 23: cry our toes this life. So I have a seat 2298 01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,360 Speaker 23: everybody talking about me in the street. 2299 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:07,280 Speaker 1: Okay, he did his thing, and that was tough. 2300 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 23: That's where my parents are from, but they mouse to 2301 01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,360 Speaker 23: London and that's what I was born on TEC when 2302 01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:14,960 Speaker 23: I was seventeen. 2303 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,360 Speaker 8: Okay, bro right, okay, Bro, Bro. 2304 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:22,200 Speaker 12: That's going now, Bro, come to the breakfast club. 2305 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,920 Speaker 2: I would say, for what a long time? Where can 2306 01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,160 Speaker 2: they follow? You? 2307 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:26,479 Speaker 8: Tell me? 2308 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,720 Speaker 23: In twenty two on the socials Spotify, you can catch 2309 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,240 Speaker 23: me every I'll got a little song that's stay in 2310 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,400 Speaker 23: some numbers right now, so keep that into it. 2311 01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,679 Speaker 8: I appreciate it might be one Records, next artist. 2312 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:37,960 Speaker 1: No, No, definitely sound sounds tough. I love to hear 2313 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:39,360 Speaker 1: some of your music. Man, keep doing your thing. 2314 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,920 Speaker 8: Man, you and he used to do that. 2315 01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 1: That's the fact I used to do the same thing 2316 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:43,760 Speaker 1: you do. 2317 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,880 Speaker 8: A lot kind of clocked it. You used to be 2318 01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:46,680 Speaker 8: outside one case. 2319 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:48,479 Speaker 1: That's right now. 2320 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:49,800 Speaker 21: So I know what it's like when when you got 2321 01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,080 Speaker 21: down hung and you're just like yo, I want to 2322 01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,120 Speaker 21: I want to get on man, you got to do 2323 01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:54,040 Speaker 21: it yourself. 2324 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,600 Speaker 2: Bars or wheels out right now, let's the breakfast. 2325 01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,640 Speaker 8: Club, pap Post, Yes, thanks for having me. 2326 01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,280 Speaker 2: Now you've got a positive note them. 2327 01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:01,839 Speaker 8: Notice simply this and it's simple. 2328 01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,600 Speaker 9: Our character is what we do when we think no 2329 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:06,439 Speaker 9: one is looking. 2330 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,040 Speaker 8: Always remember that, have a blessed day. 2331 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:10,800 Speaker 2: Breakfast cup, Bitches you. 2332 01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,680 Speaker 9: Don't finish up, Wake you up, Wake up. 2333 01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,760 Speaker 3: Program your alarm to power one oh five point one 2334 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:18,720 Speaker 3: on iHeartRadio