WEBVTT - "The Sopranos" w/ Mary Beth Barone 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.639 If you can hear my voice right now. Got good 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.320 news and I've got bad news. The good news is 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.599 you are still kicking, baby, you are breathing, you are alive. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.440 The bad news is you're listening to the podcast known 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:31.680 as Stradio Lab, the podcast that is a podcast about 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.879 being about a podcast. George, anything to add to that 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.519 or I just want to send a sincere apologies to 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.480 all our listeners for everything we've ever said or done. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.839 I think you know we've definitely made some mistakes in 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:48.720 our time, um and and today we're repenting for that. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.960 We are recording right after and I you know, who's 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.320 to say what what order? We released the episode, So 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.319 this is not doxing anyone, and I want to say 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.320 what their name is, But we are recording after an 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:05.760 episode in which our world was turned upside down in 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.720 the parts of the episode that did not make it 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.000 into the cut. I mean, we are talking people being 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:15.320 kicked out of zooms. We are talking computers overheating and 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.840 then needing to be I don't know, plugged in not 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.480 plugged in unclear. We are talking about people getting notifications 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.480 not of us have ever seen before. We are talking 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.080 about computers getting a mind of their own. I mean, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:31.600 this is some smart house on Disney Channel stuff. You know, 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:36.280 we set out on this mission just to record our voices. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.960 When we started this podcast, that seemed like an easy ask, 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.759 how hard can it be? And you know, each time 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.720 it actually turns out to be quite quite hard. It's 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.480 so everyone should have the right to record their own 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.840 voice and then listen back to it, and yet it's 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.200 still a privilege in so many ways. Yeah, and that's 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.880 what we're fighting for. Often there are people I meet 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.960 them and they say, I've never recorded my own voice. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.240 What am I a narcissist? And I say, that's so sad, 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.680 so sad that you don't have that option to to 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.360 reflect on what you sound like with a special guest 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.079 week after week. Sometimes I think, you know that I 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:19.600 can't help but see the look on your face as 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:25.520 if you're receiving a text. Yeah, well, yes, did you 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.920 hear the are you? Did you hear the sound on 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.359 my from my computer? Oh no, I saw the worried 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.000 look on your face. Yeah, well my comuter made a 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.880 sound because it is in fact my friend who I'll 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.560 say it lives internationally. Um, And so we use the 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.120 app What's app and I had it open on my 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:50.919 laptop and it made a sound. Am I not allowed yet? 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:56.560 Oh my god? Uh please Mary back just just sucking 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.880 say we're gonna kick you out again, and then we're 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.079 gonna again. I just want to say that Sam wasn't. 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.240 He didn't hear the sound, just as I didn't hear 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.680 the sound. I want to reiterate that it was the 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.840 worried look on your face. That was what he was 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.200 reacting to, and I reacted as well. I didn't say 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.400 anything in the moments I've been introduced yet, but I 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.240 just want to clear that up between the hosts that 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.200 it actually wasn't had nothing to do with sound on 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.679 your computer. Okay, So, George, I I do feel a 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.760 little bit denied. My basic reality was denied because I 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.560 tried to say, no, it's not the sound. It's the 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.359 worried look on your face. And you said, oh, so 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.680 you heard the sound, and I was like, no, it's 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.120 I'm telling you. It was a look on your face 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.040 of concern. And You're like, you're you're confused because it's 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.360 a what's what'sapp sound instead of a text sound, and 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:44.040 I was like, it's literally your face reading attacks being 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:48.080 concerned now refused to believe me until our dear, dear 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.920 guest came in and stood up for me. Well, first 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.800 of all, I believe women, and second of all, I 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.320 just want to say that the sound was relevant in 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.920 that the reason I looked concerned. If I'd got in 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.200 the text, it wouldn't have been a sound attached to it, 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.720 so I would have just seen it moved on fine. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.520 But because I heard the sound, I said, oh my god, 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.960 what SAP is open in my computer? And if I 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.880 don't do something about this, a SAP and continue to 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.480 make sounds. So the sound itself was the reason for 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.320 the concern, not the content of the message. Yeah. No, 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:25.599 the content of the message was literally that someone I 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.599 am aware of is being vetted for a job and 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.680 he deserves it, love to see it. So it was 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.560 not about the text I was not concerned about. I 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.400 was not concerned about the content. I was concerned about 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:42.280 the sound. Any other questions, No, Um, I'm totally fine. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:46.680 That's a reasonable feeling. I I just you know, I 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.920 think podcasting is it's so important that we listened to 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.359 each other and we you know, respond to what the 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.920 other is saying, and you know, we sort of accept 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:59.280 each other's realities. And you know, I would, um, just 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.080 really ask of you in the future to respond to 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:08.360 what I'm telling you. I you are making so little sense. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.479 I think, I think we are so shaken up from 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.599 the technical difficulties that this has the potential to be 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.520 emotionally unhinged. I mean, can we even get through? I'm 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.719 I on it. First of all, the sound is back, 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.400 but I'm not going to address it because I just 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.560 hope that it leaves. And second of all, I am 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:34.159 on the verge of something and I don't quite know 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:38.800 what it is. I would love to, uh trying to 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:43.599 describe that feeling. Do you I mean, do you ever? 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.200 I guess this is kind of how a lot of 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.840 people have been feeling in these weird times. We are 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.560 simultaneously on the verge, but also the thing we're on 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:55.880 the verge of is never coming. Yeah, I can relate 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.120 where it's a form of edging. Oh not this in 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:06.599 I'm sorry, I forget where we landed on it. Um, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.280 I forget, but yeah, it doesn't matter. We don't have time, 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.760 we don't know. How are you? I'm fine? I'm would 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.920 you get good? Well? I'm fine too. Jesus Christ, Oh 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.240 my god, I actually don't know if we should. I 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:18.719 don't know if I want to bring a guest into 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.000 this toxic environment. Okay, we have to very quickly, in 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.880 thirty seconds, do therapy so we can get over this. Okay, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.040 how do you feel? I feel good. I feel like 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.880 I accept what just happened. I think that there was 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.839 a lot of technical difficulties and but I actually do 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.719 think the content of that episode was funny and juicy 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:42.200 and dare I say good Capital G podcasting Capital P. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:49.200 How do you feel? I feel fine. I feel very hot. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.359 The sun is burning my skin off um, and I 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.120 once again I'm not allowed to turn on my A 0:06:54.240 --> 0:07:00.800 c we. I feel like they was a lot of 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.560 me going back and forth between texting and emailing and 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.400 sending zoom links and making sure our next guest who 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.080 are about to introduce was not pissed at me because 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.320 we had kept making her way longer. And I did 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.520 feel like so much. I felt like I was carrying 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.520 so much on my back. Well, I'm sorry that you 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.080 had to text all those zoom links, um, and I 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.440 appreciate you, you know, checking it up for us. M 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.080 h um. Do you Okay, one more question before we 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.400 bring in our guest, and this I think we'll bring 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.760 us back down to earth. Is this a good podcast? 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:40.280 It's sort of complaining about the previous episode. Good, Well 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:49.800 it's good and that we're talking. Yes, yes, the only 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:56.880 podcast is good because it is. Yeah, Well, I think 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.280 it's time to bring in our guest. Well, I mean, 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:16.280 please give it up, open your holes. Hey, what the 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.200 fun is up? You know? I feel like I'm coming 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.880 into a bit of a I don't want to see, 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.360 like there's tension that you could cut with a knife. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.480 But the thing that I think is beautiful about it 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.640 is that it's not aimed at each other, and more importantly, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.680 it's not aimed at me. So I feel safe coming 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.920 into this because it's not the first time, you know 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.920 what kind of becoming a third and a dynamic where 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.080 it's it's not really about me. And I know that. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.120 I know that because you guys really scraped the bottom 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.360 of the barrel with guests before you invited me on. 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.400 And I think it's important to note that this podcast 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:50.960 has been going on for months and this is my 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:55.040 kind of first time making appearance. Um, no nothing, no shade. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.920 As they say, but I just did want to kind 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.240 of put that out there that I see you, I 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.760 hear you, um, and I'm excited to dive into Well, 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:07.640 it's interesting. You know, you are probably one of the 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.040 people I am in communication with the most. I would 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.920 say we text almost daily. In fact, we just finished 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.920 finished working together on a job where we were the 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.440 only not done. Were not done. That's right now the 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.480 job goes on. I mean, I don't know. I put 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.600 in my two weeks I'm leaving for grace, but um, 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.320 we did just finished working on a job or we 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.559 we were two people in a three person team for something. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.720 We worked very closely together. Um. And yet it is 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.480 true that despite that fact, despite the fact that I 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.360 would say you are objectively one of my best friends 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.480 in comedy and in life, I never even thought to 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.679 ask you to be on this podcast until um August, 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.680 and we started releasing episodes in March. And you know, 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.360 I was hoping I was hoping you would because I 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.320 have been saying no to podcast. I said I'm not 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.320 going to do another one until I do Stradio Lab 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.000 and that's it. Last final I didn't tell you that, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.760 but I've been telling you. I've been writing a lot 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.840 of emails to that effect, because you know the girlies, 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:07.440 they come out and they say, we please your a podcast. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.520 We talked about drags, as we talked about boys, talk 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.959 about relationships and dating. I said, unfortunately, I am right now, 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.080 I'm not participating in podcasts until I get to be 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.240 a guest on my friend George and my friend Sam's 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.679 podcast um Studio Lab. So go subscribe right or view whatever. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.760 It is just kind of plugging your guys creative hard 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.640 work as well. Um, and in that way, you know, 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.920 I think I've been a better friend than you. But um, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.440 that's not really what the podcast is about, is it. No. No, 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.520 I do think that's an interesting perspective because I mean, 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.960 you have been getting paid for that, uh, to be 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:48.440 your friend, No, to promote our podcast. Okay, but it 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.680 wasn't going to bring that up. Well yeah, But I 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.440 mean the thing is, if if you're going to be 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.640 accusing me of things, it should be noted that the 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.520 reason you couldn't do it before it was because we 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:00.000 can't have employee. We can't have a paid employee of 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.959 the podcast on as a guest. I mean that will 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.360 be wildly unethical. That's like you know, if I worked 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:11.679 at g Q and then did an issue of the Sexiest, Hottest, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.199 most disgustingly Handsome Men, and it was the editor in 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.720 chief of the magazine, you know what, And I completely agree. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.720 It's and and it's actually illegal to pay podcast guests, 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.200 and that's why no one does it. Well, podcasting is illegal. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.560 More broadly, that's something no one's talking about, you know, well, 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.160 because you can't talk about it. You can't talk about 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:38.319 especially can't talk about a podcast. Honey, Well that Double Jeopardy. Yeah, no, 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.720 that's acts exactly what Double Jeopardy is is when you 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.520 talk about how podcasting is illegal on the podcast and yeah, 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.320 here we are. Yeah, and that's why Ashley jud you 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:51.080 don't see her anymore, honey, now you don't. You know, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.000 I can see how you would be so upset with um, George. 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.040 I just feel like the sweet spot for getting out 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:03.560 a podcast is, oh, six months in. You know, there's 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.040 a little fan base, but you know they're not tired 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.920 of't you yet. It's it's actually, you know, sort of 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.040 the peak of a podcast. And so what we're doing 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.840 is actually a huge, huge help to you. And we 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.319 have been planning it all along and you've been paying 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.160 me for six months, which has been nice. So yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:23.880 I'll be sending you guys, will be sending me a 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:30.480 W two. Or who's doing the financials. It's clear that 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.200 George is doing the tech, but who's doing the thing. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.160 I do the tech, and then I do the kind 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.959 of I'll do like retreats, spirituality and things like that. Yeah, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:43.480 of course, yeah. I do the finances and I make 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.920 the meals. Sam has a background in Wall Street and 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.680 culinary school. A background in Wall Street. Interesting, grew up 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.520 with a lot of people come from coming from a 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.760 semi background. Well, there are very different there's there's various 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.439 different backgrounds. One can have. It's Wall Street culinary school, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:09.160 uhtreats cooking well, cooking, yes, separate from culinary school for sure. Um. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:14.800 And then the last one is um. You know, we 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.080 don't talk about that. We don't talk about it. We can't, 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.480 we can't. The last one's secret. It's not really for 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.200 us to say, as like a Greek gay man, a 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.280 white gay man, and a white woman. The last background 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.840 you can come from, it's not really for us to say, no, 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.800 that's so true. Last background is this is it? And 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.480 it's the most important one. And yeah, so I hope 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.600 that you'll dedicate at least one episode, maybe even a 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.199 segment to it in the future, but I won't be involved, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:42.040 if that makes sense. Yeah, that that does make sense. Actually, okay, great, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.959 your background all that to say, I'm having me here. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:53.000 My background is uh, well, okay, I hate to say 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.520 a color outside the lines, but I kind of have 0:13:55.600 --> 0:14:01.400 since I was a kid, and my my background i'm baby. Yeah, well, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.280 you know, it's anything you see your color outside the lines. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:07.679 You do these um works of art and they are 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:12.240 really quite terrible. Yeah, I'm actually there's one right behind me. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:17.439 Oh well not beautiful per se, but no, no anything 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:23.360 ugly yeah ugly. Yeah, not not good? Do you think, 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.240 you know? And in fact, for what you do for 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:27.960 other people, you know, it could be seen as a 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.040 commentary on like the art world norms. Like you know, 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.800 it's like how people will have a painting but then 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.240 the canvas is slashed, you know, and then it's making 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.600 some kind of commentary with you. It's interesting because it 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.920 really is is saying nothing. I mean, it really is 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.680 just kind of bad bad And in that though, it 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.640 says volumes, right, that's so true. I love how the 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.120 norm is that art is good and so you're sort 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.840 of subverting that by being bad. Yeah, and I'm all 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.200 about being subversive, So I think that that's that's kind 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.480 of what I'm known for. I would saying subverting that's 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.960 very because can I tell you something? Of course, making 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.920 good art, where's the risk in that? No, nowhere making 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.360 art that you know is bad. And this is something 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.560 straight white men have been doing for years, okay, politics, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:20.080 So if anyone has any kind of negative comments or 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.240 thoughts or feelings about my art, you know, you can 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:26.120 just shove it. Yeah. Well, you actually do something interesting, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.880 which is that you make physical art like paintings, drawings, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.000 but then you add a comment section, a physical comments 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:36.920 section where people um in museums are able to to 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.120 write on the wall you know, I hate this, Yeah, 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.560 and they do, they do write that, And to them, 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:47.440 I say, well, what have you made society? Yeah? And 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.440 often some sometimes you know, those people um actually have 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.160 made it. You know. It's a lot of prominent artists 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.560 push artists. Sure, but like you know, I still think 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.760 that sometimes you need to just hold a mirror up 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:02.200 to society. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you've been doing you've been. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.920 You show up, you show up to places, and you 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.880 bring a mirror, and then the whole point is that 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:09.960 you're holding a mirror up. And then of course the 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.160 feedback has been that is so literal and so stupid, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.960 like literally, you know, like this feels so elementary, like 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.600 my five year old could have thought of this. Yeah, 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.840 but again I think, like, um, like, who are you 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:29.080 to judge? Right, because there's too much there's too much symbolism. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.600 I think nowadays, sometimes you just need to say this 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.280 is what I like, you know, I said, holding mirror 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:42.000 up to society. I wasn't being a metaphoric or against metaphor. Yeah, 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:46.240 I I speak and I speak literally or not at all. Uh, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.480 That's why I'm That's what I'm constantly saying. Literally. Yeah, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.200 whenever someone uses a metaphor or assembly, I I've seen you. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:59.560 You shut down. You can't. You know. One thing that 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.760 you mentioned and that I think is so important is 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.440 so much of being a great artist these days, it's 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:08.160 just show up, you know. Yeah, you gotta show up. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.439 That's I'll say, just to add to that is showing up, 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.680 the leaving, and so you can you can say that 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.360 I'm putting in a hundred. You're showing up and you're 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.719 going home. Because here's the thing, you always show up 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:27.280 and you always leave. Shure, show me who's show me 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:28.720 who else is doing that? I'm not doing it like 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.760 they're like the other girls. Know none of the other 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.639 girls are doing that. They will show up and stay, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:38.159 or they will never leave. H no, or they will 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.760 not show up at all, which is different than leaving. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:47.639 Not showing up at all isn't leaving completely different? So huh, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.560 just something for the listeners to think. Oh, yeah, I 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.360 mean that already we stopped. Now that would be enough. Yeah, 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.399 that was actually really intelligent. Yes, So what are some 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:02.120 of the segments you guys do? Okay, well that's okay. Yeah, 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.560 if we want to continue to talk about showing up 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.000 versus leaving, how that kind of all breaks out, I'm 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.000 totally I could talk about that for hours. Really. Yeah, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.560 I mean we were not ready to go into our 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.080 first segment, but I guess you know, suddenly, because you're 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.280 so good at art criticism and art history, you think 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.280 you can control what we do with our own podcast. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.840 Did but did didn't? I I mean, we're not doing 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.439 the first segment right, now, so because I said, if 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.800 you don't want to, we don't have to. I was giving, 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.280 I was extending in all the branch, and that's entrapment. Yeah, 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.840 this is insane already you've done double jeopardy on us 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.720 and entrapment on us. You know what I say to that, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:41.560 take take me away? Locked me up? Oh oh, she's 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.119 presenting her risks as if to be Listeners can't see this, 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.399 but she's presenting her risks, which is a cultural symbol 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:55.040 of being handcuffed. I knew someone in college who, um, 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.040 this is actually terrible. This is not some what I 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:58.560 was very close to you, but it's a story I 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.600 heard who was dw having on the wrong side of 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.920 the street and like the police pulled her over. Obviously 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:10.920 she was like intoxicated, right, it wasn't it wasn't that obvious. 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.960 I was like, maybe she's punk, right, So then she 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.560 gets out of the car and literally presents her risks 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:24.640 and just goes just arrest me. Okay, queen legend I love. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.800 Turning yourself in is punk rock, that's true. Turning herself 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.160 in is very I mean talk about literal, and that 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.560 woman I want to feel old. That woman is Phoebe Bridgers. 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.159 I mean the amount of I think it's so mature, 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.720 it's so like you know yourself, and that's so important. 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.399 Self aware queen, self aware queen. You know, she's not 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.560 saying I didn't do it, or like am I drunk? 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.199 She's saying, get over, let's not do the song. And 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.159 she said, let's cut the ship, let's go down to 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.639 brass hats. Yes, she said, I'm going to be a 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.600 lawyer someday, and I don't have time for us to 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.680 fuck a round here. I'm in college and I'm friends 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:07.160 with a friend of George's. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and made 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.560 it into the police report. I mean it started a 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:15.560 trend of people turning themselves in. It was, yeah, it 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.159 was a movement. And then people would go and they 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.000 would say arrest me, and then the police would be like, listen, 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.439 like you didn't do anything, Like we can't just arrest anyone. 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:30.400 I mean, you know, yeah, anyway, um um, I guess 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.040 we can do our first segment. Yeah, so, Marybeth. In 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:38.199 our first segment, it's called straight Shooters and this and 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:43.320 this is where we uh kind of engauge your relationship 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.640 to and complicity in what's known as straight culture through 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.120 a series of rapid fire questions. Now, of course you've 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:50.960 listened before, so you know that the one rule is 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.160 that you can't ask any follow up questions or any 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.119 clarification on how the game works, and if you do, 0:20:55.200 --> 0:21:01.119 we will yell at you. Okay, So, Mary Beth, Oh, 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.240 you know what. I'm now realizing one of mine is incomplete, 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:04.439 so I'll have to think of it on the spot 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:10.560 Flat Stanley or fat Albert flat Stanley. Okay, Mary Beth, 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.199 I'm also thinking of them on the spot. Um slash 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.920 rapidly no, no I do um, Mary Beth. Um November 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:25.280 or Manuary November. You're so gay by Katy Perry. Or 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.080 wish you were gay by Billie Eilish. Thank you for 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.960 saying that you're so gay by Katy Perry. Okay, Um, 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.040 the floor is lava or the floor is a gorgeous hardwood. 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:41.199 The floor is a gorgeous hardwood. Roy g biv or 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:48.840 Roy Cone v George Severi's I shit you not? I 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.960 was about to do Roy g bib or Roy Orbison. 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:56.159 Are you fucking kidding? I'm absolutely serious. Well, I'd have 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.879 to stay again, Rigi bib okay, Roy gibib or Royal 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:05.000 tin stein Stein. I'm out of Roy's but definitely respect 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:13.200 Um okay, Logan Roy just for the future. Yeah, which one? Okay? 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:22.240 Rover Shivroy Chivroy. You hate colors? Homophobic, homophobic, just hate 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:26.640 the Pride flag. It's gramatica. She's a joyant Queens queen. 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:32.080 Don't get me started. Mary Beth um Ferrari's Lamborghinis or Rigatonis, 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:44.000 Oh Lamborghinis Marybeth, George Severis or Sam Taggard Chivroy. Wow, 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:49.439 that's pretty good. That's good. Yeah. Well here here's the thing. 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.280 Don't make me choose. No, it was a drop for sure. 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.159 Yeah right, well that is the premise of the segment. 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:59.720 But sure, Sorry, I'm just off being subversed again. Okay, 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.640 So we're gonna rate you on a scale of one 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:05.359 to one thousand doves. And I'm getting very clearly in 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:10.560 my head that was a clean five. Wows. I think 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:17.480 that's fair. I think that's really fair. Well great, well great, um, 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:19.760 did you want me to ask questions about the rating? 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.680 Here's the thing with Roy. Here's the thing about it, 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.919 and this is something I really struggle with. You know, 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.080 everything else is very basic blue red, and then instead 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.880 of saying purple, you say violent. It does not add 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:34.639 up to me. I think there was that there was 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:36.760 a gay man involved in that decision. And I don't 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:38.400 mean any offense by that, but I think we could 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.280