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Speaker 1: that's the name of her next album and she is

422
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: making another one iconic. If her album was called roy

423
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: g BIP and the concept was just like a purple

424
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: instead of violet, I mean that actually is really funny.

425
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: If she did that, that that would be genius. If she

426
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: was listening, Charlie, if you're listening, that's free for you. Yeah,

427
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: we won't charge. We will charge for the next album exactly.

428
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: Isn't it ironic that even though the v was you know,

429
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: the contribution of the one game in in the writer's room,

430
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: roy g BIP is so much gay And I think

431
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: it's because that gay And I can't say that that

432
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: gay had no foresight. Yeah no, but he did have

433
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: forest skin. I would also say that from Europe, I

434
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: would say it's highly possible for that gay in that

435
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: room to be, you know, a little bit self conscious

436
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: of being the only gay scientist. So I bet he

437
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, how can I like insert like let

438
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: people know I'm gay, Violet, but not let them him

439
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: too gay, and not have it end in roy g

440
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 1: bip exactly. So it's kind of internalized homophobia. To end

441
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: it in Violet. It is internalized homophobia. And it's like

442
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: and is in his quest to fit in with the boys,

443
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: like be one of the guys, he ended up making

444
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: one of the worst mistakes in scientific history. I have

445
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: to agree. I think Nara has a bigger mistake been

446
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: made than the royg bi versus rogip kind of conversation.

447
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: I haven't heard about that. You you won't hear about that.

448
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: You won't learn about that in school, but you're gonna

449
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: learn about it here, you know what. And here's just

450
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: speaking of colors. The first majority gay writer's room was

451
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: the people who came up with the primary colors instead

452
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: of red white or sorry, red blue and yellow, the

453
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: people that thought of cyan, magenta and yellow. Is that

454
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: real punch up? Huh? They were doing a punch up

455
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: on the original? Yeah, they said this. It was like

456
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: a really you know, it was like one of those

457
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: remakes where um, you know the it's like, um, you

458
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: know Riverdale versus the Archie comics. Yeah, I think they said,

459
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: they said, as Jennifer Lawrence once said, gay rights. Yeah,

460
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: it's definitely representation and it's powerful and it saves a

461
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: lot of kids lives. God, I mean, but now we

462
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: do have an overpopulation problem, not for long because of everything. Um,

463
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, I here's what I think. I think gay

464
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: comedy specifically, we just we just gotta hold like cuts

465
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: every year. Like, I think we just need to have

466
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: cuts money, right. I am the number one proponent of

467
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: this movement, but not just for gays. I think we

468
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: need to have cuts across the board, cut cut, cuts

469
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: across the bar. I think that's genius. I think it's time.

470
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: You know, who gets to decide though, the head of CIA, Well,

471
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: of course, I think. I mean, if we're keeping it

472
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: fair right, Well cool, Um, well now that's figured out.

473
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah I do. You can you imagine, though, being one

474
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: of the people who's cut, You know I can. I

475
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: don't want to live a full and happy life. It's true. God,

476
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: I wish I was cut. You know, I've dealt with

477
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: loss in this industry, you know, countless times. I can

478
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: deal with getting cut. One year, I'm going to be

479
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 1: that girl in America's next top model. Who was like,

480
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: this is not for me, and then she left. She

481
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: was like, no, it's just not It's just not for me.

482
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, don't you think in any job?

483
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: And even she walks out, she's can I just say something?

484
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: She is the number one icon of showing up and

485
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: then leaving. That's true. She's she originated the language. No

486
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: one is doing it like her, nobody is, nobody has

487
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: if every production it's like and then you know, it's like, no,

488
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: you have to keep a clean show up, leave, leave,

489
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: get out. Unbelievable. I mean again, to know yourself, to

490
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: have that self awareness. It's sort of the arrest me, like,

491
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: just I don't want to like, I love that. I wish,

492
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: I wish I could do that. Where is she now?

493
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: I hope she's well, she's probably a c of CIA,

494
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: She's a charge of the cuts. And it doesn't once

495
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: you leave, once you leave this over, yeah, you can't

496
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: come back the next year. No, No, oh you can't. Damn.

497
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna audition again for what to be in

498
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: Harold Knight, not Harold Knight at the Yeah, in the

499
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: world of New York stand up comedy. You're George. Remember

500
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: when I texted you of eader scene and I kind

501
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: of took creative liberties with this. I wish I remember

502
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: what the spelling was. The two things we have spelled

503
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: in an insane way our our feedersane and ayahuasca. You

504
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: know you're allowed to not know how to spell whatever

505
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: you want. I have to that's empowerment. You know what.

506
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: I can never spell. I can never my job and

507
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: I always google about seven times the last two years.

508
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: Voice note, Honey, I think I put that pressure on yourself.

509
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: I think it's so funny to write m PEL, but

510
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: I still don't know how to spell it, and that's

511
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: your right, honestly, and I correct is not helping. I

512
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: mean the amount of times you have looked it up

513
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: and then written it down. It does not correct, sees

514
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: what it wants to see. Correct, pretends like I'm not

515
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: even here, like it like pretends like I don't even exist.

516
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: It's crazy, the stuff. It's like, you know what I want?

517
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: Why why don't you make some way? Making this difficult?

518
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: M HM questions will never have answers to, well, well,

519
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: um should we Mary Beth? You're introduce our topic ors. Yeah, Now,

520
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: the other thing that happened I'm actually no, I'm not

521
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: going to say this. I was going to mention our

522
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: previous episode again, but that's we've already staged it looking

523
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: toward the future. We're looking towards the future. We really

524
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: really are. I mean we're not. We're still talking about it,

525
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, just briefly, um Merribeth, your topic is

526
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: the television series The Sopranos. Tell us about that. I okay,

527
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: so many a straight man has tried to coax me

528
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: into watching The Sopranos, claiming it's the best show ever,

529
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: claiming it's the greatest show. That's that's gray star screens,

530
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: claiming it's some of the best performances of all time. Okay, sorry,

531
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: give us straight straight and he's just agreeing fervently. Well,

532
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: I just think that a show that has men that

533
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: look like that who can sing, I don't even understand

534
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: how it works if you have all sopranos in the

535
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: group of Second of all, what's the big deal? Right?

536
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: First of all, like they have high voices, it's not

537
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: a big deal. Do you think it's homophobic that, like

538
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of making fun of them for having high voices?

539
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: Not only do I think it's homophobics that it's making

540
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: fun of them for having my voices. I think it's

541
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: homophobic that, from what I understand, there's no gay actors

542
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: in the whole thing. No, no, yeah, it's it's crazy

543
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: they went and found straight men who are sopranos where

544
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: they find them. I'm not buying it. I find the

545
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: plot to be so compelling because you know, it's this

546
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: group of sopranos and they're like all this one style

547
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: of singer, and like they still make it to regionals

548
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: despite all the odds. Not that I'm going to watch it,

549
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, well no, it's known that they make they

550
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: make it to regionals every season finale except the final

551
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: one when you know they don't. Sorry spoiler, but that's

552
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: how it ends. Soiler, I also think in the way

553
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: that and from what I understand, because I've never seen

554
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: it once again, never watched even a single minute of it,

555
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: but from from what I've heard, they killed Tony in

556
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: the end, and then that actor died and that just

557
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: felt like a little on those to me. Yeah, and

558
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: you like flitteral as I am. It just felt like

559
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: he went for cheap laughs, right, you shouldn't have died.

560
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: I think that was a weird decision when he I

561
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: think it's so messed up when people choose to die.

562
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: It's like just stay. I get why in some respects,

563
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: But if your character on a show that you're most

564
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: famous for has just died, and you've just done a

565
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: movie with Julia Louis Dreyfuss, I don't even know that

566
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: if it had come out yet, feels like, you know,

567
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: you could have been there for the press tour just

568
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: because you've had your kind of career defining moment. Julia

569
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Louis Dreyfuss famously hasn't, so you know, she's never been

570
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: in a hit TV show, and she could have probably

571
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: really used Okay, she probably could have been controversial statement.

572
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: She's never been in a single let alone too. She's

573
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: definitely never been in a single hit TV show, So

574
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: I just think she maybe could have used that movie

575
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: to kind of propel see. You know, It's it's interesting

576
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: because I was so on board. It's one of those

577
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: things I think is happening where you are talking to

578
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: someone and they and they make increasingly unhinged claims and

579
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: you and you are playing a lie and you're saying,

580
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: maybe this will start making sense and then you realize, no,

581
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: this person's batshit insane. You're talking about Sam. Um. I

582
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: don't think that's where he was going. Actually, George, am

583
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I talking about Sam. Here's what I will say. Here

584
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: is what I will say. I think you know, Mary Beth,

585
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is that you think James

586
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: Gandolfini should come back to life because it was rude

587
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: for him to die before Julia Louis Drive has had

588
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: her moment, and I think we want the same thing,

589
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: but for different reasons. I have made it very clear

590
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: in my work that I also think James Gandolfini should

591
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: rise from the grave, but only for the sole purpose

592
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: of having sex with me. I mean this man to

593
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: be reborn as his current age, and um the current age. Okay,

594
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I there is an inconsistency here. If

595
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: we are so into the idea of showing up and

596
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: then leaving, isn't dying the ultimate leaving? Why are we

597
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: against that? But I guess it's a matter of knowing

598
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: the right time. I agree, and I think it wasn't

599
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: the right time. Yea, So living is showing up. But

600
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: thank you for there's always so angry at people for

601
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: um passing away. She never thinks it's the right time.

602
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: She always comments on obituaries and says boom wow. Okay, Um,

603
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: it just feels selfish to me, and I think, you know,

604
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: if you have more to do and more to say,

605
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: kind of robbing the world of that is inherently um yeah.

606
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: Just it's not something I support. And I think that

607
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: if he's you know, if he were alive today, I

608
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: would tell him that as well. Yeah, guys, what's your favorite?

609
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: I know we all haven't seen the show, but you know,

610
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: we all listened to the cast recording soundtrack? What's your favorite?

611
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: Mash up from the Sopranos cast recording soundtrack? Okay, I

612
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: love when they did Let's have a Kiki, Yes, when

613
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: Tony like Tony's like big moment in that nh huh

614
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: see for me and I don't want to I don't

615
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: want it to seem like I'm copying, But for me,

616
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: it was when they did um, Kiki, do you love me?

617
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: Are you writing? Oh? They kind of did a soprano

618
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: version of that. I thought Pauli Walnut's voice was really

619
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: cool in that one. I think when Michael Imperioli did Valerie.

620
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: I I thought that was so and you know he

621
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: was listen. He wasn't the best singer, no but that,

622
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: but he said, he said, I'm going to step up

623
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: to the plate and I'm going to sing the ship

624
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: out of Valerie. And he did it. Sam. How about you? Um?

625
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: I happened to remember, you know, I've always been sort

626
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: of more alternative. Um, I remember a rendition of Beck's

627
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm a Loser Baby that you know, it just really

628
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: spoke to me at that time in my life. And

629
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: they mashed it up with radio heads creep, so it's

630
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm a loser. What is the Beck one? I'm a

631
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: loser Baby, and then it's I'm a I'm a weird

632
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm a weirdo. What the hell am I doing here? Exactly?

633
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: And I think that gave kind of Jamie Lynn Siegler,

634
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: who you may know from HBO's Entourage. She did a

635
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: turtle in one season. Excuse me, Uh. She hadn't really

636
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: had her time to shine yet. And even though she

637
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: technically I don't think her vocal range fell into soprano,

638
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: so it was all the everyone else was a soprano.

639
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: And then it was really controversial when they hired her,

640
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: especially because you know, she started on that show as

641
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: a teen and she has had been a tenor since

642
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: she was a child. Yeah. Um, and people said, she

643
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: doesn't belong like this, it doesn't make any sense. So

644
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: in that way, it was a little meta because she

645
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: says that I don't belong here, and you think, well,

646
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: you don't actually, because right, and it was, you know,

647
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: sung with a tenor like, oh, I don't plong here,

648
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: and you know, imagine Jamie Lynn Sigler doing that. I can't,

649
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: I can't until I hear it, you know what I mean? Well,

650
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: that was I just played what you just heard. That

651
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: was the cast recording. Okay, right, right, absolutely, of course,

652
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: of course. Um, okay, here's the question. Do you guys

653
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: believe in the Sopranos curse? Oh? Oh, Sam, remind me,

654
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: remind me too much, remind me. I mean, you can't,

655
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: it's too bad. Here's the thing about the Sopranos. I

656
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: think that there's never been a show like it, and

657
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying that as someone who has never seen it.

658
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. I mean, it made musicals acceptable for straight men.

659
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: It did what Glee was, but but Glee had to

660
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: walk so that the Sopranos could have run exactly even

661
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: though and don't you know people are like writing in

662
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: about the timing. Don't worry about it. People are always

663
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: writing and trying to fact check us. It's like, yeah,

664
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: it's like no, you can like you can first walk

665
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: then run like you can run then walk like absolutely.

666
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: But I question to you is what's the curse? Mm hmm.

667
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: The curse The Sopranos curse is that after the series

668
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: was over, all of them were relegated to supporting roles

669
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: except for Edie Falco. Okay, but she earned her stripes.

670
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: I'd say, oh yeah, I mean she's the one who

671
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: got Nurse Jackie. James Candelfini was up for that. He

672
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: was going to be a Nurse Jackie and they said,

673
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: they said sorry when they were casting that, it was

674
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: they were only casting cast members of the Sopranos, So

675
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: it was either going to be a Nurse Jackie like

676
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: with Michael Imperioli or James Gendelfeni or Jamie lynd Sigler

677
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: like and it and it was Eadie. And that's why

678
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: actually James had to do that movie with unknown at

679
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 1: the time, actress Julia Louis Dreyfuss. Yeah, because he still

680
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: hasn't ever been in the show. I said, never been

681
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: a hit show. She's honestly had like you know, under

682
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: fives on a couple of shows. She's just never been

683
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: like a main character on a hit show. Yeah. She

684
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: was on a forgotten show called Seinfeld that people now

685
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: I guess are watching because there's like bootleg DVDs of it. Yeah,

686
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: but it's not in any streaming platforms. And no one

687
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: from that show really went on to do anything. No, no, Yeah,

688
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: it's a really sad story. It's really there's there's a

689
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: Seinfeld curse. But we're not going to get into that.

690
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: Well interesting, god, you know you you rules can be

691
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: broken so easily. Yeah, I think that's what that's a

692
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: message of the soprano because because they said we can't

693
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: have a singing group with all sopranos, and they said,

694
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: watched me, thank you. Oh my god. Now I feel

695
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: like I'm staying against me and they all, but they

696
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: managed to harmonize. I actually have I have a gay

697
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: friend watching it right now, and that's what I was

698
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: going to star. He's says, He says, if I'm being real,

699
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: it's incredibly boring. Okay, that's interesting because I have been

700
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: so this is a show that my uh boyfriend and

701
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: I have been meaning to start watching together, and I

702
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: think it's like a good activity to do in a couple.

703
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: No offense to all the single ladies out there listening,

704
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: but unfortunately we're not allowed. No, I actually don't care

705
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: about offending those, um but it's actually you better get

706
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: a man. It's interesting people think. You know, there are

707
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: people that are that think they're that they are not

708
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: watching the Sopranos because they're empowered. It's like, if you could,

709
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: you would, Yeah, yeah, it's all these also spinsters are

710
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: not watching. So many of these women they think, oh,

711
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, I can have it all. I can have

712
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: a career. It's like, no, all you want to do

713
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: is watch the Sopranos. Stupid, but you can't because you

714
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: don't have a damn man in your life. Like ring

715
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: on that finger and watch the Sopranos. So it's always

716
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: inspiring when you go to a wedding and then you

717
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: know people are doing the toast and the bride speaks

718
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: and through tears she goes, I can finally watch the Sopranos,

719
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: and it's what's more touching for me is when the

720
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: dad gets up and I never thought it would happen

721
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: for my daughter, but now she gets to watch it's

722
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: Home Box Offices show, It's and you know what this

723
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: I'll cup up to the fact that it is kind

724
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: of gay privilege that I I Am allowed to watch

725
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: it just through having a boyfriend. And we don't need

726
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: to be legally married. But for straight people, you do

727
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: need to be legally married before you can log into

728
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you can get to HBO, but when you

729
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: click the sopranos, they you have to present the marriage. Yeah,

730
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: it says if you click on it in your single,

731
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: it says, did you mean HBO's Girls. Right, you're kind

732
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: of prompted, you're redirected. It says four or four and

733
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: then it says, if this page takes more of those

734
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: things alone, so you click the button and then it's

735
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: actually it's actually HBO's Girls by Lena Danaman, Judd Apatow. Yeah,

736
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: thank you for including Judd Apatow and Jenny Connor, and

737
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: then and Jenny Connor as well, and less we forget

738
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: Alison Williams, you know, Jemima Kirk and then the one

739
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: that plays yell. At this point, we're just listening to

740
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: the cast, but you know, they all had a part

741
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: in making the story come to life. That's I mean, yes,

742
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: but I think we're trying to keep it sort of

743
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: in the executive producer realm Oh, I'm sorry. I thought

744
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: this was a free space to talk about creative projects. Marybeth,

745
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: Do you think diversity matters more on screen or off screen? Oh?

746
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: My gosh, and you can't have both, by the way,

747
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: it's a binary, you know. Then I think I'm gonna

748
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say on screen because as we've

749
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: seen with James Gandelfini, art imitates life, so I'll make

750
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: that choice for the community. Or sorry, life imitates arts,

751
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: so I'll make that choice for the community to say

752
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 1: on screen. And then I think, like it trickled down,

753
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: it will happen. There you have it. Marybeth Browne thinks

754
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: all stories should be written by straight white men played

755
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: by people of color. Yeah, it feels very almost exploitative.

756
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: When you said off screen, I thought you meant like

757
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: in an office, like like in everyday life, like on

758
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: the bus. Oh, I don't think there are any jobs

759
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: that are not on camera. Well, then we agree to disagree.

760
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: Are there offices that are like not being filmed? I

761
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: don't know that I've been to one, but I've heard

762
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: about them. Yeah, yeah, maybe if you're like a like

763
00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: a like a dentist. No, they filmed those for TLC. Oh,

764
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, my American Denta and and and the

765
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: spinoff nine Dentist Fiance. That one is really pretty boring.

766
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: It's extremely specific, and it's like, I don't know that

767
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: this needed to be made, but but then here we are.

768
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: People are you know people? It's it's giving jobs to people,

769
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: mostly straight white men, because you're in charge of the network.

770
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: If I was in charge of the network, things would

771
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: be a lot different. How would you change TLC if

772
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: you were in charge of it? Yeah, from the inside out,

773
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: which well I was obviously you beat me to it,

774
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: but I was gonna say, I just feel like, if

775
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: you're going to make a show about an Italian family,

776
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: there's just richer stories to be mine within that, Like,

777
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm not seeing on TV. I'm not

778
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: seeing like a gang crime drama, mafia type story, which

779
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, they're always singing, they're always

780
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: on the stage, they're always being flamboyant, no offense, and

781
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: I just think to co opt a culture like that,

782
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: I've never met an Italian like that, and I think

783
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: it's just not reflective of the Italian American experience in

784
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: New York. And so I just think if I were

785
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: to go in and pitch sopranos like I just think,

786
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: and I was also the ahead of the network. Um,

787
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: so you're pitching to yourself. Yeah, you're pitching sopranos to

788
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: yourself for TLC. Yeah, I'm just saying it would look different. Okay,

789
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. And I've never listened, I've never

790
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: met an Italian American, but I in my mind, you know,

791
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: I've grown up seeing these images like I've grown up,

792
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: and they're always singers. You know, it's like it's like

793
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: it can't be really, I just cannot It's not rooted

794
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: in truth. It's not there. I'm sure, just like any community,

795
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: there's diversity within the Italian American community, like not all

796
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: of them, the singers. There's more than sopranos at least started,

797
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: yes exactly. I mean, okay, fine, make the most singers

798
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: throw in an alto, of course, but then you get

799
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: into the question of like, is this tokenism to have

800
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: just one? I mean that's Jamie Lee Sigler dealt with

801
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: us throughout the series being the only tenor yeah, I

802
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: mean these are important questions, you know. Yeah, no, and

803
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: the answers are actually not important. Yeah, it's I think

804
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: it's and I've always said this, it's more important to

805
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: ask the question, I think, than to get the answer. Yeah.

806
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes getting answers can be actively harmful. I agree. You

807
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: have to close your ears. It's just the question. It's

808
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: like Schrodinger's tat, you know, like exactly, it's exactly the

809
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: open box. We don't want the answer, We just want

810
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: to outpose the question and say my work is done exactly.

811
00:48:50,880 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: Italian American representation is just like Schrodinger's cat. Shrodinger's cat. Well,

812
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: oh my god, um wow. I have to say, it

813
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: feels like we've covered most of culture. Yeah, I think.

814
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: You know. When I came on here, I thought I

815
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: will uncover a few will turn over a few stones.

816
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: I didn't think we'd get this deep. And I have

817
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: to say I'm happy, and honestly I think the listeners

818
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: will be as well. Yeah, I hope so, I think

819
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: they will be um and and Sam having said all that,

820
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: enjoy what finishing watching sopranos? Yeah? Sam, I mean, now

821
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: you know that at the end they don't win regionals

822
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: and then James Gendelfini dies of sadness. I did hear

823
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: that he was actually like a huge diva on set,

824
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: so it's actually probably good that. Yeah listen, Okay, I

825
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: didn't want to get into this, but James candel Foenie

826
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: in real life is not a soprano. He's doing soprano face.

827
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me? James Candelfenie when he speaks

828
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: literally sounds like kind of you know what kind of

829
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: the average um you know when you think of like

830
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: a man of his height, stature, background, like, he sounds

831
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: exactly like you would think he would sound. And then

832
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: he for his audition. He walked in and even even

833
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 1: before he was like doing the audition part, he would

834
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: speak in a soprano voice so they would think it

835
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: was natural. And then he sure enough went through the

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Speaker 1: entire process that the entire show. There was even an

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Speaker 1: expose about it, but no one cared. It wasn't at

838
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 1: the time, it wasn't considered controversial. I mean, people said,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's voice blind, asking like anyone can

840
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Speaker 1: be a soprano. That's just not that's just objectively untrue.

841
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Speaker 1: And I think that that shed is kind of a

842
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: light on the show. That's it's just a lot more

843
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: problematic than people say. And that was kind of my

844
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: goal coming on here, was just talking about that. And

845
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: then now I'm learning things that I even I didn't know. Well,

846
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: it's a reckoning that's overdue, and it's it's a weird

847
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: conversation to have because, as you said, you don't want

848
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Speaker 1: to kick people while they're down, um in the ground,

849
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: he's literally dead. Yeah, um, but you know, I mean

850
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Speaker 1: it was tough and uh, how do you feel do

851
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: you feel like a weight it's been lifted? Well, yeah,

852
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: I mean I I you know, here's what I'll say.

853
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: Then he it was so interesting because then he did

854
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: all these other films where he wasn't speaking in a

855
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: soprano voice, and people said lauded him for being so

856
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: good at doing the other voices, but in fact, that

857
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: was his real voice. I'm mean, I'm they couldn't just

858
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: find a soprano, you know what I mean. I'm so shocked.

859
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's because he's kind of doing like when

860
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Speaker 1: you put it like that, you see how he's kind

861
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: of a caricature of us. Exactly, he's doing like a stereotype.

862
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: This is like when I found out that the guy

863
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: that isn't Jesse Tyler Ferguson in Modern Family is st

864
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: It's exactly like that. There are no differences, and it's

865
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: just kind of upsetting. But it's tough because he is

866
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: good in the role both yea, and so he can

867
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: hit a note. Um, do you think that guy? I

868
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: think the guy from Modern Family should change his name

869
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: to forever to the guy from Modern Family that isn't Jesse. H.

870
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: I think it would just be easier. Actually, I agree,

871
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: because that's kind of that's his moniker anyway, Yeah, what

872
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: I know him. That's his character's name. It should be

873
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: his name. Yeah. God, Modern Family, Is that show still on?

874
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: I think they're rebooting it with a different family, but

875
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: is it's still modern? No, it's postmder Family, post modern Family,

876
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: and it's also going to get a post comedy, so

877
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of just like they're getting, you know, post

878
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: on top of post, but it will be a show

879
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: on even and it's actually absolutely again literally literal, So

880
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: in that way, I will be watching. Oh yeah, well

881
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: just like um, Meryl Streeps The Post, I will be watching.

882
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: I will Okay, you know Meryl Streeps the Post that

883
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: was about the post office. Yeah, she played she played

884
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: an envelope, believed and had a dream. She was praised

885
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: for that performance too, wasn't It's like anyone complaint, Sorry,

886
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: no offense, but like I could play an envelope. It

887
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: really was like, Okay, you're just gobbling up literally whatever

888
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: Meryll throws at you, Like she's literally an envelope and

889
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: you're loving it. Like, get over it. Do you think

890
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: she ever got over being passed for the main role

891
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: the James Gandel Fenie role in the Sopranos. You know,

892
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: I think that's something that she refuses to talk about

893
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: in interviews, which makes me think she probably was pretty upset. Yeah,

894
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: she deserves to be a patriarch of a family, if

895
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: ever they're were deserving person, you know, for that role.

896
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: So I think my heart goes out to her. Heaven

897
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: knows she needed the work, but my heart is always

898
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: going out to Meryl Streep. I have to say this

899
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: is controversial, but I feel like we should quote while

900
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: we're ahead into our final segment. I love that. It's incredible, right,

901
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm also very aware of certain time issues. Listen, don't

902
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: do anything on my behalf. But if we're going to

903
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: get into the final set, just let me know because

904
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: I'll buckle up. Okay, I'm ready for the final segment.

905
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: I guess I don't like have one. I think I

906
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: do have one. Um, Mary, Beth, I don't know if

907
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: you need some listeners. I was gonna explain what the

908
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: final segment is. Do I have to or just she

909
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: already know. I think she knows. She says she doesn't know.

910
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: I think that she knows, Mary about the final segment.

911
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Shout outs. You give a shout out to anything, and

912
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the voice of sort of

913
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: a teen at at t r L in two thousand two,

914
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: just shouting out your squad. Here's the thing with this

915
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: segment is that it's very I mean, you like literal stuff.

916
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: I think the idea of radio shoutouts being straight culture

917
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: is very literal. It is one of the first things

918
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: we thought of when we were in septualizing this podcast,

919
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: and as the rest of the podcast has grown and

920
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: unexpected and avant Garde directions. This segment has stayed the same,

921
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: and I have remained bad at it, you know, and

922
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: some times George actively sabotages this segment in order to

923
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: make me look bad. Uh see last episode. Yeah, I

924
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: make myself look bad in order to make Sam look

925
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: bad because you know, he's trying to use as evidence.

926
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: He's trying to be like, see, I don't like it,

927
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: like see, it doesn't work, and I'm like, it doesn't

928
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: work your maybe you go first, I'll go second, George third. Okay, Yeah,

929
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: let's see what you have ready, sam My freaking god? Um, okay,

930
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: what's up the listeners. I just want to give a

931
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: quick shout out to everybody at jacobrif speech speech last weekend. Um,

932
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: everyone I ever knew was there, and oh baby, did

933
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: it feel bad and against the rules. I really don't

934
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: think we were all supposed to be there at the

935
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: same time on the same day, and yet we were.

936
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do in that situation and

937
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: I just had to be there. It was fun, But

938
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: I have post sex guilt even though I didn't have sex,

939
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: if that makes the sense. It really feels like I

940
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 1: did something bad. But I swear to god, I'm trying

941
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: to be good and I want to be good, and

942
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a mask and I'm doing everything, and this

943
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: is a confession. I don't know. The beach was too crowded.

944
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: We really should not be going to such a crowded beach.

945
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: And should I cut this and redo it? I don't

946
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: know x X I Sam, what's up listeners? First of all,

947
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: I just want to condemn everything my co host Sam

948
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: Tagger just said and say that I have never met

949
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: him and don't know him, and uh, this podcast generally

950
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: so far has been edited together by producer that we

951
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: don't work with in person, and so if you've enjoyed it,

952
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: that's great. If not, you know, it's not my fault.

953
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: And once again, I condemn everything Sam just said. Hi, Personally,

954
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm pro science. And second of all, I want to

955
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to generational discourse people saying

956
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: things like boomers and Gen X and millennials. I think

957
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: it is so deeply intelligent to analyze society that way,

958
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: and every time people do that, I say, Wow, you

959
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: really made an incredible point there and definitely should get

960
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: a peep in sociology. I think more people that are

961
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: adults who read books should make arguments about boomers and

962
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: Gen X and millennials. It brings me so much joy

963
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: that people get paid to write absolute about generations, and

964
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: so thank you so much. And special shout out to

965
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: the person who wrote a recent thing that really set

966
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: me off. I'm not gonna say your name because you

967
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter and that is on you. Quick

968
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: shout out to George Georgie George Um for saying it

969
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: is hacked to write about generations when in fact we

970
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: have a podcast about what is quote unquote straight as

971
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: if that isn't the hackiest thing in the world. Okay, listeners.

972
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: Mary Bethier just wanted to give a quick shout out

973
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: to Carson Daly. A lot of people don't remember this

974
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: the Carson Daily and Career culture when he painted two

975
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: of his nail's black and for that we kind of

976
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: owe you the world. I also want to say that

977
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: your performance in Josie and the Pussycats was fantastic and

978
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: alum those signs. Also shout out to Nicole from the

979
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: Pussycat Dolls. I was singing, do you understanding? I was

980
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: no because I was singing. Do you understand what I'm saying, oh,

981
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: I hope I don't get in trouble for this. I

982
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: was in the middle because I was singing, Okay, I

983
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: have a great, uh, great rest of your day to

984
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: Nicole and Carson. I'm gonna I'm gonna edit in the

985
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: clip that Marybeth is referencing at the end of the episode,

986
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: give people the bibliography. Yeah, okay, Mary Beth, thank you

987
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: for doing the episode. That was incredible. People don't even

988
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: know the story. They have no idea. I was in

989
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: center because I was singing. I was the one singing,

990
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: oh man, oh man. I hope I don't get in

991
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: trouble for the stuff that I say, because I never

992
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: really talked about it, but I'll never forget. I finished

993
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: the album pc D and Ron and I brought the

994
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: girls into the studio and we played it for them,

995
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: and it was the first time they've ever heard the music.

996
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying. We played the album

997
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: for the Pussycat Dolls, so the first time they ever

998
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: heard the songs.