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Speaker 2: Harrison dies for the up zone, He's in Touchdown What

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Speaker 2: a pick at the thirty five yard line by Mac Wilson.

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Speaker 2: For a loss by guess who? Collas Campbell.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Trey McBride.

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Speaker 3: Heck of a play by the all world tight end

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Speaker 3: Tray McBride.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was nasty right there right swam in the

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Speaker 2: ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo. He came flying

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Speaker 2: into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: I know if I started by saying something along lines

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Speaker 2: of I've got a small problem, probably a wouldn't surprise anyone.

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Speaker 2: Be wouldn't narrow it down very much. Danny Surrek, Darren Urban,

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Speaker 2: You're as Julie Polly podcast. But here's the problem I'm

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Speaker 2: currently encountering getting ready to play the Rams. I can't

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Speaker 2: look at their depth chart and not see Billy Bob

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Speaker 2: Thornton playing linebacker. This Nate Landman guy is killing me.

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Speaker 2: Just the name Landman on the back of his jersey.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I'm trying to picture. Do they have a

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Speaker 3: really skinny dude playing linebacker? Oh, but you're talking about I.

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Speaker 2: Just looked it up. He's six three two thirty five.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Billy Bob what one thirty five?

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's looking a little emaciated in those commercials lately.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a really good TV show, and I just

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Speaker 2: hope Nate Landman, who just signed himself a fat new contract,

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Speaker 2: by the way, isn't half the linebacker that the drama

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Speaker 2: the TV show is. Let me know what you want

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Speaker 2: to talk about something I can be included, Danny, you

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Speaker 2: haven't heard of or seen Landman. It's by the way,

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Speaker 2: it's said in West Texas and they shoot it in

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Speaker 2: the Fort Worth area. For what it's worth, that is,

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Speaker 2: I just I did a quick search on that one.

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Speaker 2: So and he did say after week one he was

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Speaker 2: like the NFC defensive Player of the Week. And then

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Speaker 2: they asked him on CBS because Paramount Property, and they

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Speaker 2: asked him if he liked a cameo, and he got

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Speaker 2: Bill kyer Shore. He said, love the show, give me

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Speaker 2: a cameo. I'll be there anytime. The shot.

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Speaker 3: Get a contract extension, big time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, here, wait a minute, it's a yeah,

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Speaker 2: three years, twenty two and a half million dollar extension.

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Speaker 2: He was born in Zimbabwe and then his father was

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Speaker 2: a rugby player, and then grew up mostly in northern

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Speaker 2: California and bounced around, got cut in like March. The

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Speaker 2: Rams signed him and so far it's been a home run.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, Billy Bob Thornton is not is not playing

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Speaker 2: linebacker for the Rams. I have to remind myself.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't know either way, but I trust you.

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Speaker 3: That needed a light. I don't think that gets We're

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Speaker 3: we're going thought playing linebacker for the Rams again.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Now finally I get some disagreement. Here

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Speaker 2: I get some pushback. Now we're ready to podcast. Here

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Speaker 2: so here we go back from Tampa. Uh, the ninth

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Speaker 2: one score game of the year and seven losses all

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Speaker 2: by four points or fewer? Are they the same? I mean?

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Speaker 2: How similar? Dissimilar? Every football game is a snowflake, I

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Speaker 2: get it right. No, No, two games are created the same,

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Speaker 2: always different storylines. But at the end of this season,

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Speaker 2: are you going to look back and are you going

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Speaker 2: to draw parallels in the lost column?

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Speaker 4: To a certain extent, big picture, there are areas that

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Speaker 4: have been continued to be struggle points for this team,

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Speaker 4: regardless of who they're playing. The run game has struggled

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Speaker 4: on offense, that's been a pretty much until this past

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Speaker 4: week offensively. But this past week in Tampa Bay was

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Speaker 4: a lot of missed opportunities, and that hasn't always been

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Speaker 4: the case. And some of the losses for the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: in many senses, with the exception of Seattle and San Francisco,

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals weren't blown out of the water. So those

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Speaker 4: two losses are really different than every other early loss

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Speaker 4: where at one point the Cardinals lost three straight in

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Speaker 4: the same. And Tampa Bay, it was a lot of

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Speaker 4: missed opportunities. You had a red zone interception, a fumble,

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Speaker 4: a missed field goal. That hasn't been the case collectively

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you start the second half, you get a

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Speaker 4: For a while at the start of the season we

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Speaker 4: And then about halfway through the season we started to

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Speaker 4: not every loss has been the same. Have there been

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Speaker 4: shown up consistently, Yes, but the losses have been pretty different.

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Speaker 2: And then the next drive you had a ten play drive.

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Speaker 2: There were four plays of ten yards or more, but

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Speaker 2: you missed the field goal. So there's still that certain

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Speaker 2: degree of self inflicted, right, And so we like to

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Speaker 2: put in correctable versus concerning those sorts of areas are correctable,

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Speaker 2: But when they're persistent, when they happen in multiple weeks,

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Speaker 2: does it then go from correctable to concerning when you're

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Speaker 2: not correcting it? If that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: The close lost thing is always so fascinating to me

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Speaker 3: because Paul, you and I have been around in previous

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Speaker 3: you can't get past the backdrop of the hope that

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Speaker 3: they were going to take this step this year, and

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Speaker 3: it just hasn't quite come to fruition, and it's it's

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Speaker 3: happened in potentially the most frustrating way possible.

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Speaker 2: But then again to your original point, it's the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You can be close on the scoreboard and not close

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Speaker 2: in the standings. It's the way it is. Kansas City

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Speaker 2: They started owing four and one score games this year five.

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Speaker 2: So Jacksonville was three and ten in one score games

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Speaker 2: last year. Look at Jacksonville now. So that gap you

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Speaker 2: need to bridge from losing to winning close games. I

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Speaker 2: and all of that, but beyond that, I think it

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Speaker 2: makes it difficult to diagnose an assess because, okay, how

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Speaker 2: close are you? It's really hard to decipher. I mean,

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Speaker 2: look at some of the quarterback like, for example, let's

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Speaker 2: use the Bears. The Bears they have a.

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Speaker 4: Young reason the Bears is an example how far have

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Speaker 2: They have a young athletic erratic Dare I say erratic?

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Speaker 2: of the past game, not.

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Speaker 3: Because he literally just said that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also the same coaches taking a shirt off

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Speaker 3: Large, playing to the crowd, performative.

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Speaker 2: But they right now lead their division and last year

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Speaker 2: they were dead last. And there's always one team for

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Speaker 2: what every year since nineteen ninety everybody now that goes

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Speaker 2: from worse to first. I get it. But if you

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Speaker 2: examine the how, Danny, I know you're looking at me

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Speaker 2: and you're like, Okay, where's this going. If you look

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Speaker 2: at the how we do that often, how are they

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Speaker 2: winning with a young, athletic, erratic quarterback with consistency and

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Speaker 2: accuracy issues. Well to your original point, the run game.

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Speaker 2: They fixed the offensive line. They ran for almost three

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Speaker 2: hundred yards at Philadelphia. I mean, Eagles fans are going

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Speaker 2: after the OC. Did you see your run defense? We'll

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Speaker 2: get to that a little bit later. And they obviously

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Speaker 4: Well, the reason I was looking at you with a

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Speaker 4: smirk is thinking how far the Bears have come? It

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Speaker 4: was this time last year that Tygrag Stevenson on the

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Speaker 4: Hail Mary Bluff found his way on your pole of ineptitude.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm glad you brought that up, because

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Speaker 2: if he's not off the pole, he is now After

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Speaker 2: what we saw from the Giants kicker on Monday Night football,

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Speaker 2: did they come up with like the Great Snub or

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Speaker 2: is there any sort of nickname that doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Count as a missed field baal because he didn't make contacts?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 3: How about this? He said later he saw the ball

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Speaker 3: was moving and that's why he did it. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you almost broke your ankle, dude.

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Speaker 2: It was by design? Is that what he said?

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Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't by design, I meaning down He means

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh so he threw the holder under the bus.

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Speaker 2: Is that what he did?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Gotch the holder who got sacked.

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Speaker 3: I just tweeted out he should replace his dibbott.

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Speaker 2: That's all, well, just yeah, I was just going to

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Speaker 2: make a golf analogy. And that's next time I yank

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Speaker 2: one out of bounds. You know, obviously I saw the

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Speaker 2: It's I almost I almost reached out to j Feeley

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Speaker 2: when I saw that, and I said, no, don't bug ja,

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Speaker 2: it's like nine o'clock at night. I wanted some feedback

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Speaker 2: on that, just I mean, has anyone ever seen that before?

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Speaker 2: So because of that, Danny, the powerpole of an aptitude,

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Speaker 2: I think now includes the Giants Kicker. How about that?

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Speaker 4: Yikes? I mean, good news for Tyree Stevenson.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Oh my goodness. All right? What other takeaways

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Speaker 2: Darius Robinson obviously had something to say afterwards, holding himself

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Speaker 3: I'm going to hear that though I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 3: He did hold himself accountable, absolutely, but some of the

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Speaker 3: initial and I wasn't there. You were there, Paul, you

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Speaker 3: It doesn't take away necessarily in the importance of what

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Speaker 3: kind of where the tweets would end as people were

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Speaker 3: putting it out. But the very next words out of

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Speaker 3: his mouth were and that's okay because I'm just going

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Speaker 3: to keep grinding. And to me, the context changes somewhat

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Speaker 3: dramatically if you just stopped that, I'm not good enough

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Speaker 3: to where he was. And I'm not blaming anybody one

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Speaker 2: The exact quote was, I'm not who I thought I was.

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Speaker 3: That's what it was.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I haven't done enough to help my

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Speaker 2: team win games. I have to evaluate myself. I got

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Speaker 2: to get better. I got to hold myself accountable. And then, yes,

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Speaker 2: part of what you said there, just for what it's worth.

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Speaker 2: There were only a few of us at his locker

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Speaker 2: I did ask him one on one. I just said, okay,

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Speaker 2: so where like how like what do you mean? Where

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Speaker 2: do you where do you want to get better? And

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Speaker 2: he said, well, and he used the word flow. He

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Speaker 2: he feels like he has not done in the NFL yet.

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Speaker 3: That, and that's possible. And then Monday, after setting all

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Speaker 3: Danny was just saying about the accountability. I just it's there,

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Speaker 2: Let me say this, the coaches are not going to

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Speaker 2: they're not going to put it into a press conference.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a lack of accountability or coaches

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Paul. I heard a quarterback in the

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Speaker 3: Few weeks, and you wonder, and gosh, who wouldn't want

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Speaker 4: You wonder why I'd never picked that team in our picks. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: The insers is that we're talking about in the Burg? Okay, No,

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Speaker 3: It feels really weird though, when they start chanting fire Tomlin,

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Speaker 4: You do have a good point, though, Paul, is just

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Speaker 4: And when this coaching staff in front office from the

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Speaker 4: Cornator Jeff Rodgers mentioned that his press conference Tuesday, there

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Speaker 2: If you want to lose the locker room, start criticizing

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Speaker 3: Did not go over well, you know what is And

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Speaker 3: again I have a feeling I know who you're talking about,

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Speaker 2: And that might be the exception. If that's the norm,

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know exactly, and maybe I don't know

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Speaker 2: Buddy Ryan would call and Denny would call out his

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Speaker 2: I mean forget players that he would cite assistance. So,

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Speaker 4: Well on social media now right, like everything is clipped everything.

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Speaker 2: Getting back to Darius Robinson real quick, but hitting zoom

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Speaker 4: No doubt. He had two sacks, which ties his career

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Speaker 3: that's possible. For that ninety nineteen those were not that

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Speaker 3: was not a good That was right after the playoffs

437
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Speaker 3: and they lost a bunch of guys.

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Speaker 2: Eric Swan now Mark Smith, this is er.

439
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Speaker 3: Eric Swan was gone by No, maybe he wasn't gone

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Speaker 3: by ninety nine, I forget, but he wasn't producing as

441
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Speaker 3: much as earlier.

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Speaker 2: That'll probably end up in Wise Guy and I'll loose going.

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Speaker 3: But I bring it up in part because you were saying,

444
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Speaker 3: does there need to be other people? Now? I don't

445
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Speaker 3: think Josh Sweat and the rest of the team is

446
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Speaker 3: sixteen and a half to two ratio kind of feel.

447
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Speaker 3: I mean, Khalais is having a good year. They've had

448
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Speaker 3: some other guys, but you don't want to have it

449
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Speaker 3: be too lopsided where one the team can worry about

450
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Speaker 3: one guy and you know, going down the stretch, it's

451
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Speaker 3: only about Josh Sweat and the rest of them aren't there.

452
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Speaker 3: And I do think they need more production. But again,

453
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Speaker 3: when you have a record like this, you're gonna look

454
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Speaker 3: around the roster and you're gonna be able to find

455
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Speaker 3: plenty of places saying we probably need a little bit

456
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Speaker 3: more there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know much, but I know this much, Sean

458
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Speaker 2: McVay is gonna have a plan for Josh Sweat, and

459
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Speaker 2: he's gonna take his chances with everyone not named Josh Sweat,

460
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Speaker 2: especially after a two SAT game, just to get the

461
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Speaker 2: attention of McVeigh and that coaching staff, which I thought

462
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Speaker 2: was brilliant, Jonathan Gannon and Nick Ross putting him inside

463
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Speaker 2: for that second sack so he's not subject to some

464
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Speaker 2: of the chip around the edge and sort of like

465
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Speaker 2: what Green Bay did with Michah Parsons made Micah really

466
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Speaker 2: tough when the Cardinals played green Bay because he wasn't

467
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Speaker 2: always coming off the edge.

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Speaker 4: If a player is gonna win their one on ones

469
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Speaker 4: moving around, that is the freedom That'swat mentioned when he

470
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Speaker 4: signed with the Cardinals in March of something he enjoyed

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Speaker 4: in Philadelphia with those two and that he was excited

472
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Speaker 4: to get back to having here with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Darren Kelvicy consulting the Paulie offseason, has a has a

474
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Speaker 2: story idea for you. Listen, you need to sit down

475
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Speaker 2: Simeon and Carlos standsby and that'll be the world's best

476
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Speaker 2: conversation between those two guys that would be a conversation.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to ask each of them who deserves to

478
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Speaker 3: be in the Hall of Fame. Faster.

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Speaker 2: Let's get cultured. Uh, Danny will segue.

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Speaker 4: To you getting cultured with Danny. It is not just

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Speaker 4: directed at Paul.

482
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Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

483
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Speaker 3: Yes, you got me very excited.

484
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Speaker 4: Now I am on social media and consume more at

485
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Speaker 4: pop culture than both of you combined.

486
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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go.

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Speaker 4: The news. Paul Cheeto's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't Paul know that before?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: I know that before Paul?

492
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Speaker 2: Why he wasn't claimed off waivers? I put him on waivers.

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Speaker 4: Nobody claims there is a biotech company working on an

494
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Speaker 4: anti aging dog pill. It's a chewable tablet for dogs

495
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Speaker 4: ten or older. So it's meant for senior dogs to

496
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Speaker 4: help promote healthy aging and extend their lifespan. And this

497
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Speaker 4: company recently cleared a big FDA step to conduct larger

498
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Speaker 4: clinical studies, so supposedly by twenty twenty six this might

499
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Speaker 4: be on the market.

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Speaker 3: This feels this feels a little ozempathy for dogs.

501
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Speaker 4: Another idea, another idea through the cracks for Paul.

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Speaker 2: So, wait a minute, they've innovated a fountain of youth

503
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Speaker 2: for dogs before humans. Is that what we're understanding here

504
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Speaker 2: in priorities? I get it. It's a kind of ironical,

505
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Speaker 2: if you will, as I create a word, because just

506
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Speaker 2: yesterday was the first day of Advent, and there was

507
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Speaker 2: an Advent calendar wait for it, with doggy treats by

508
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Speaker 2: every day leading to Christmas. Pew and Cheetoh got an

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Speaker 2: Advent Day one treat yesterday, and yours truly once again

510
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Speaker 2: proving our axiom, anything you can sell to humans, humans

511
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Speaker 2: will buy for their dogs.

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Speaker 4: I well think you have much room to complain considering

513
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Speaker 4: you got out of the Thanksgiving Day parade.

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Speaker 3: Paul, Wait, what happened?

515
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Speaker 4: Did that get out of the parade?

516
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Speaker 2: I was I was granted a clemency.

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Speaker 3: Fron Did they hear the podcast? Like, fine, if you're

518
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Speaker 3: gonna do this much of a jerk about it, don't come. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, it turns out it underwhelmed even more than usual,

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Speaker 2: and so I don't think there will be a repeat attendance.

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Speaker 4: They need your car. Dancing with the Stars wrapped last

522
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Speaker 4: week and the winner went to Robert Irwin, the conservationist

523
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Speaker 4: and zoo keeper, son of Steve Irwin. He won season

524
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Speaker 4: thirty four, ten years after his older sister Bindy won.

525
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Speaker 4: So now they're trying to get their mom to be

526
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Speaker 4: on next season and go for a three piece.

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Speaker 2: So what sort of competitive advantage do you have if

528
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Speaker 2: you grew up in Irwin? I mean you grew that

529
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Speaker 2: was your lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: Arm not dance. I think just charm. Okay, And last

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Speaker 4: it was kind of a rough week. I'll be honest

532
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Speaker 4: to find stuff with you guys, But ending on a

533
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Speaker 4: on a good note, Chad with Boseman's legacy lives on.

534
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Speaker 4: The actor was posthumously awarded his Hollywood Walk a Famed

535
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Speaker 4: Star five years after the Black Panther star died following

536
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Speaker 4: a private battle with colon cancer.

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Speaker 2: Wow, well that's cool. That is cool.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna avoid doing what Condo symtem would look and.

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Speaker 4: I'm saving any sort of tidbits I want to share

540
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Speaker 4: regarding college football until we get to a later Yes,

541
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Speaker 4: we'll get you both have been cultured your wealth.

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Speaker 3: I will say, I think you should give a little

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Speaker 3: credit to Paul. I mean technically, Paul cultured you at

544
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Speaker 3: the outset of this program with that's right, sure, why not?

545
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Speaker 4: We've got wise guy coming up. I'll give one a ball.

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Speaker 2: Although you know, upon further review what Danny just said

547
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Speaker 2: about thirty seconds ago, it was hard finding anything for

548
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Speaker 2: you guys, she qualified that it wasn't it was hard

549
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Speaker 2: finding any stories. It was stories that are a quote

550
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Speaker 2: for you guys, applicable to you guys. I'm not sure

551
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Speaker 2: how to take that exactly. All right, we know who

552
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Speaker 2: the guy is. The man is Trey McBride, there's no

553
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: doubt about that. What sort of records is he going

554
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Speaker 2: to set this week? That's really the question. I don't have.

555
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Speaker 4: Anything, just going to keep breaking his own records. He

556
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 4: just set the record for most catches his first one

557
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Speaker 4: marked three hundred and two in his career Sunday in Tampa,

558
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Speaker 4: which was officially the most by a tight end in

559
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Speaker 4: their first four seasons, which means now every week McBride

560
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Speaker 4: is just going to break his own record.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the one and we've got the rest

562
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Speaker 3: of the season, but the one that he's barreling towards

563
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Speaker 3: that I think has probably more significance. Letter it be

564
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Speaker 3: the number of catches in a season for a tight end.

565
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Speaker 3: He's on pace to absolutely obliterate zach Ertz one hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixteen catches.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So going into Tampa, he was on pace for

568
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Speaker 2: one twenty four. Yes, zach Ertz's record is won sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yes is he so now he's beyond one twenty four catches? Okay?

570
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: There you go. So that's uh okay. Not only is

571
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Speaker 2: that ridiculously impressive considering the amount of defensive attention he gets,

572
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Speaker 2: but the fact that he with zach Ertz right, zach

573
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: Ertz was ahead of him. That he only got his

574
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Speaker 2: opportunity when zach Ertz went down the middle of his

575
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Speaker 2: second year in the NFL and no one was sure

576
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Speaker 2: what to expect. I tried to sort of ask in

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Speaker 2: the Trey McBride presser to start this week about it

578
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Speaker 2: his rookie year versus now.

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Speaker 3: It was a good question. But I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 3: some props, Paul.

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Speaker 2: It's like the third time he's denied the question. He

582
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Speaker 2: will not reflect upon his rookie year. I'm not gonna

583
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Speaker 2: call it a disappointment, but I will say the forecast

584
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Speaker 2: was cloudy coming out of his rookie year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, first off, I'm gonna give him a little grace.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's when we got him. But considering it

587
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: was less than twenty four hours after they lost Yes

588
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: to yet another game, you could just tell he wasn't

589
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Speaker 3: in a big reflective mood at this.

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I mean, I don't

591
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Speaker 2: know how sore he is on a Monday morning. He's

592
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Speaker 2: got to.

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Speaker 3: Be physically physically, because I think mentally he was pretty sore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, And you know he runs hot during the game.

595
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Speaker 2: After the to down, he's screaming, That's who I am,

596
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Speaker 2: That's what I do. There's a few other explodos involved

597
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Speaker 2: in there. He was telling anybody would listen, mainly wearing

598
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Speaker 2: a Tampa uniform. Here I am. Try and stop me.

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Speaker 2: You can't. It is. I mean, he is that guy.

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Speaker 2: He is that confident these days. But getting I mean,

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Speaker 2: good thing he's twenty five because getting up on a

602
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Speaker 2: Monday morning, the kind of shots he takes and the

603
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Speaker 2: way they use him in the blocking game, I mean

604
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Speaker 2: they and as exhausted as he can be during some

605
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Speaker 2: of the TV timeouts, he'll come over and take a knee.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, again, he's leaving it all out there.

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Speaker 3: He said he acknowledged. Well, I don't know if he

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Speaker 3: acknowledged I I similar maybe it was Wolf's Wolf broke

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Speaker 3: down the play where he was blocking and he was

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Speaker 3: talking about it. Trey McBride looked a little tired at

611
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Speaker 3: that point, and when you're doing a fourth and run,

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Speaker 3: and I think pretty sure that was the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: Like again, that that all plays into it. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: the guy, we're going to talk about him a million

615
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Speaker 3: more times, Danny, because he's the best player they have,

616
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Speaker 3: and he's having a fantastic season even though the winds

617
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: aren't coming, and he deserves every act. Lite he came

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Speaker 3: out this week he's the leading vote getter among all

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Speaker 3: tight ends in the NFL for the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, to have that distinction on a

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Speaker 2: team with a losing record, that's a big deal. To

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Speaker 2: be in a market that's not top ten. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's a big deal. And actually it sort of restores

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Speaker 2: my confidence in the voters that you know, a lot

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Speaker 2: of years that's not the case. It's more of a popularity.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about the Pro Bowl. Pro Bowl, right, I know,

627
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Speaker 3: I thought you said it stort your confidence in voters.

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Speaker 3: I would just want to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just just in the in the process,

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Speaker 2: I guess is what I'm saying to.

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Speaker 3: Throw you apart. I'm trying to have some fun. Now, No,

632
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: you're not rambling. You're not rambling. Or I was trying

633
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: to make a joke and I just screwed it all up.

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Speaker 3: Stop everything, We'll just redo that.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, AnyWho. McBride deserves all the recognition he's getting

636
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: because this is not one off situations. It's not every

637
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Speaker 4: couple of weeks that McBride is carrying the offense on

638
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 4: his back physically with the plays he's making, physically putting

639
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 4: his body on the line with the hits he's taking

640
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: and getting double teamed as often as he is. McBride

641
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: has also stepped up to be the heart and soul

642
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: of this offense since losing James Connor, and that's something

643
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: McBride's aware of of. That's part of the reason Anna

644
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: is as animated as he is when he has a

645
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: big catch, when he has a first down or touchdown,

646
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: is trying to spark everyone around him, and McBride has

647
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: done that consistently. The other point he could the other

648
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: mark he continues to hit every single week is number

649
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Speaker 4: of consecutive games with five or more catches going back

650
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Speaker 4: to last season, and he's officially surpassed Larry Fitzgerald for

651
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Speaker 4: the most by an Arizona Cardinals. So this is something

652
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Speaker 4: that McBride has worked on since last season to be

653
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: that reliable target, regardless of who was throwing the ball

654
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: his way to come as far as he has as

655
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: a rookie, you know, drafted into a situation where there's

656
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: a veteran tight end and it's not a situation where

657
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 4: the Cardinals were necessarily using a lot of twelve personnel. Right,

658
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: the perception was the Cardinals had drafted Zach Routz's replacement,

659
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: and I'm not sure that was necessarily well received by

660
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: a lot of people. And McBride didn't get a lot

661
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: of opportunities till late in the season and the Cardinals

662
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 4: were dealing with a plethora of injuries at that point.

663
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: But he continued to work hard and earn a spot

664
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: on this roster, not just as a pass catcher, but

665
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: to be well rounded and be a good blocking tight

666
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: end as well.

667
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: Let's see if Landman can cover Trey McBride. You know,

668
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: Trey McBride's got to have select some landman trash talk.

669
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: You know, if he's covering him and he beats him

670
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: for a catch, you know, take that back to West

671
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: Texas Billy Bob, you know, start calling Nate Billy Bob.

672
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes over. That's my suggestion, free advice.

673
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: You should offen that up. You sure sure that'll go

674
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: over well, you think, guys, because of course I know

675
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: a lot about in game trash talking. Next, Danny, the

676
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: segue would be, you said, whoever's throwing him the ball?

677
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Because we have seen him with excellent chemistry no matter

678
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: who the quarterback is. Dot dot dot. That's our segue

679
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: to Kyler Murray, give us the latest, Where does that

680
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: all stand? And uh what do we know? Known and unknown?

681
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: The known is Kyler Murray's practice window will not be

682
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: open this week, so he will remain on IR, which

683
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 4: will be seven games missed if my math is correct. There,

684
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 4: he's already missed the minimum four games. And we should

685
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: clarify just because a player misses the minimum four games

686
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: does not mean that their practice window will automatically be

687
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 4: open or that they will be ready to go the

688
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 4: previous game I've seen some things online about oh, he'll

689
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: automatically be back against the Rams. That was the earliest.

690
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 4: But Gannon, that's how he started his Monday press conference was,

691
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 4: Murray is not at a point health wise where they

692
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: can open up pitch practice window, so it'll continue to

693
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 4: be best at least through this week.

694
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: Okay. So he hasn't played since the Titans game, Nope,

695
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: And we haven't heard from him since before the Titans game, right, No.

696
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: He talked after the Titans game.

697
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: Did talk? Got that game? Okay?

698
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: Because one of the last questions was ask is how's

699
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: your foot? And he said we'll see or something like that.

700
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: Gotcha? Okay? All right, Well, look, Jacoby Brissette continues to

701
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: impress and the more we hear from behind the scenes.

702
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: And Drew Petsing talked a little bit about it to

703
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 2: start this week against the Rams. Everything he's doing behind

704
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: the scenes, everything he's doing in terms of the work ethic.

705
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 2: You know a number of guys have said, just talking

706
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: to guys on the offense, you can't possibly recreate or

707
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: practice every look you're going to get, you just you

708
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: can't happen. So that's why he goes above and beyond.

709
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: That's why he's looking at film of the upcoming opponent

710
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: and going back several years and looking at the coordinator

711
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: and then taking out clips and sending them to everyone

712
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: from McBride and Michael Wilson, et cetera.

713
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: McBride said that we'd heard from Marvin Harrison Junior Michael

714
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 4: Wilson the last week that Brissette will be at home

715
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: at the end of the night watching film and he'll

716
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: text them clips of watching film and say, hey, go

717
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 4: to this page of the playbook and talk through things.

718
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 4: And I asked McBride if he's received similar text Monday,

719
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: and McBride had a little smirk and said that Brissette

720
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: was watching film from eight years ago and saw something

721
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: he liked on how he thinks McBride should run a

722
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: route that's that's detailed.

723
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 2: That's when your quarterback is legitimately an assistant offensive quote

724
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: now ten.

725
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 4: Years Brissette probably the oh, shoot, you know what, eight

726
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 4: years ago, I remember this. That's crazy.

727
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: After Kurt Warner retired, we learned in depth just how

728
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: impactful he was in creating the game plan every single

729
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: week that the offensive coaches would wait for Kurt to

730
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: show up on Monday afternoon or whatever, he'd done all

731
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: the film work on the next opponent, then they would

732
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: start game planning.

733
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: If you go back and look when Kurt first retired,

734
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: he made mention multiple times that the big reason he

735
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: retired wasn't getting his head blown up in New Orleans

736
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: or the fil physical pounding. It was the mental strain

737
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: of essentially what you're just talking about on a weekly basis, And.

738
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: That's what people don't see is Tom Brady at the

739
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: end right was this He essentially took Ba's offense and

740
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: sort of recreated and retrofitted it to match his skill

741
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: set and what he wanted. He was a pseudo offensive

742
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: coordinator in a lot of ways. And speaking of Brady,

743
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: here's a question for the Jacoby Brissette press conference this

744
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: week that didn't have the guts to ask last week.

745
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: Although it's not it's not like a pointed question or anything.

746
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: But his rookie year was spent with Tom Brady. He

747
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: was in the same room. So he cites Philip Rivers

748
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: a lot because he spent more years with Philip Rivers,

749
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: but he was in the same quarterback room as a

750
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: rookie with Tom Brady and I'm real curious how influential

751
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: and impactful that was, because he appears to have that

752
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: same sort of work.

753
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: Ethic influential in football, or impossibly cloning his dog.

754
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 2: That's right, Tom, You're right, Tom Brady.

755
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: Well, if they would have had this damn pill already,

756
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: Brady wouldn't have to clone his dog. It would just

757
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: still be living.

758
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: I just wanted to pause there to give them a

759
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: chance to clip that for the open. They grabbed my

760
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: hooy maty last week. They put that in the open.

761
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: I didn't really need that. It was so yeah.

762
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: Well maybe in this wise Guy you'll say something else. Cool.

763
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: Wow, somebody wants to get the wise Guy. Okay, here

764
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: we go, no further ado.

765
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy, the world's fastest growing

766
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The steaks are low, the winner gets

767
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess. Daddy's right.

768
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: I love this time of the week, Darren. You are

769
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 4: our ragning champ La Week Takeaway.

770
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 3: I just want to say, for the record, I get

771
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: something out of this. It might not be tangible, it's

772
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: not nothing, you know what. I don't appreciate it either

773
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: way or farm off of these wins.

774
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't appreciate it is how we

775
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: keep score here, and we don't just put the number

776
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: of victories. We mark it off like we're cavemen, just

777
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: one slash at a time, Cody the cave man.

778
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: I do that. Actually, you prefer I do it differently

779
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: and have twelve thirteen.

780
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a little less embarrassing just to

781
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: have a simple number versus like all these check marks

782
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: and then I have two, and there's like, you know,

783
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: I make it's you know, you almost need double spacing

784
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: for Darren's way.

785
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I want to make Paul feel better.

786
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: Here. Here we go you.

787
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: Paul and Danny both went nine and six in the

788
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: picks this week, an excellent record, UH beating me out

789
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 3: by one pick. I was allousy eight and seven, which

790
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: I will admit I thought was gonna be way worse

791
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: because I started the week zho and four. I missed

792
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: all the Thanksgiving games and the Friday game, and I'm like, oh,

793
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: this is headed towards a disaster.

794
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: I got the UH Packers over the Lions, and then

795
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: I was really feeling myself and spouting off like this

796
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: is the week that I go fourteen to oh, and

797
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: then I promptly lost like the next five games.

798
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: So I got one Thanksgiving incorrect, But I will not

799
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 4: specify any further. I don't appreciate you complaining about how

800
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 4: I'm keeping score. If you wanted to look differently, win more.

801
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, all right, I'll do number one.

802
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 4: You know, let's get back on track here.

803
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: It can always get worse.

804
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 4: Question one.

805
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: Yes.

806
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 4: In the late eighties and early nineties, the Los Angeles

807
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 4: Rams offense had a dynamic do a wide receiver featuring

808
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 4: Henry Ellard and a player whose childhood babysitter gave him

809
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 4: a well known nickname because his cries sounded like a

810
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: dolphin flipper.

811
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: Anderson correct once had three hundred plus yards receiving in

812
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: a game.

813
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go. Question kav. I used

814
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: to watch those games twice a year. Okay, here we go,

815
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: I'll take Wait what number was that?

816
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 4: That was one?

817
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: It was one? Oh man, don't do it. Don't I'm

818
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: gonna go Buddha Baker. Let's go three. It has not

819
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: been kind in the last couple of weeks. So I

820
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: believe in you with this one way the percentages.

821
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: This because you you love special teams. Here we go Ball.

822
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: This former NFL punter and kickoff specialists spent the two

823
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: thousand two season with the Rams and bart of the

824
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven season with the Cardinals, but he's

825
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: best known for his time with the Vikings, where he

826
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: became famous for eating a Snickers bar he kept in

827
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 4: a spare shoe on the sideline. Who was the quote

828
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 4: Snickers kicker.

829
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: As opposed to dicker the kicker? Oh my goodness, you

830
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: said it was Rams, Vikings.

831
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: Cardinal Rams in two thousand and two, Cardinals in two

832
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 4: thousand and seven, But it's best known for his time

833
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 4: with the Vikings. Snickers bar he kept in a spare shoe,

834
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: so it.

835
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: Was after Neil Rackers. Uh oh, mor Than Anderson the second.

836
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: Darren with the possible steal.

837
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I know it's Joe Nedney. I'm drawing

838
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: a blank. I'm feeling I'm gonna be upset.

839
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 4: Mitch Berger.

840
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: Mitch Burger, Oh my gosh.

841
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: I should start keeping a sniggers in my shoe.

842
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: All right, now, we're playing for keeps. Here we go, Darren,

843
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: let's go.

844
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with four, please, Mitch Berger.

845
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 4: This former Los Angeles. Rams Hall of famer made guest

846
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: appearances on several TV shows, including The Brady Bunch, The

847
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: Odd Couple, and Bewitched. There's no word on whether he

848
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: quote head, slapped or sacked any of his co stars.

849
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 3: Who is he Deacon Jones?

850
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: Yes, it's correct, Paul. Let's just play this for fun.

851
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: I mean it is remarkable, remarkable how the two easiest

852
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: questions both go to Darren and I get why.

853
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: Don't you behind the glass and see so many problems

854
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: with me today?

855
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: There's no way I can tie. It's already over.

856
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: Let me make it clear. I don't write the questions

857
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 4: and I don't put them in order. Okay, you can

858
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 4: take that up with Jim A Mahundra. Question two. This

859
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: former first round draft pick Blade in side linebacker for

860
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: the Cardinals from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety seven.

861
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: He spent the nineteen ninety eight season with the Saint

862
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: Louis Rams. Emmett Smith once called him his toughest opponent.

863
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 4: Who is he.

864
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: Middle linebacker or linebacker?

865
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: Inside linebacker?

866
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: Yet inside linebacker? Oh man? That was right when I

867
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: showed up to town. So uh man? I do now

868
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: remember who played linebacker for the Cardinals in ninety six.

869
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 3: Was it Eric Hill?

870
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: It was Wait a minute, hang on, hang hand hand.

871
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: I know Eric Hill, But say it again.

872
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: What was it?

873
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: Timeline inside linebacker for the Cardinals from nineteen eighty nine

874
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: to nineteen ninety seven. Spent the ninety eight season with

875
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: the Saint Louis Rams.

876
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought of Eric Hills much earlier than that.

877
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: I thought he came in with Wolf. No, so he

878
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: came in five five years after Wolf. Okay, I was

879
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: not aware of that. All right. I had Eric Hill

880
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: and then I.

881
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 3: That's why you got to go with your gut, Paul.

882
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 4: All right, Okay, one more tick to the score.

883
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: For Darren over to blame Wolf on that. Wolf always

884
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: talks about Eric Hill like they were homies for ten years.

885
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 3: Okay, you could talk about Subway and Eric Hill.

886
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: What do we got here?

887
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: How about the Pro Bowl voting? We could talk about

888
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl voting, Paul, Yes, because you can go

889
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: out and vote for Pro Bowl right now. And the

890
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: Cardinals actually have five players in the top ten at

891
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: their positions, which I was a little surprised about, to

892
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 3: be honest, Trey McBride. We mentioned already leads all NFL

893
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: tight ends. Josh Swett, who we mentioned already is is fifth,

894
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 3: and outside linebackers Kalais Campbell is fifth among defensive tackles.

895
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: And if Kalais could somehow get a Pro Bowl invite

896
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 3: this year, however it might work, would be pretty cool.

897
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: Greg Dort's six month among returners and Paris Johnson eighth

898
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: among offensive tackles.

899
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: Right now, all right, well, I mean where is it

900
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: this year?

901
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: By the way, it's in Santa Clair. They've moved it

902
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 3: now to the super Bowl site, so like it happens

903
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: like early in the week of Super Bowl week now

904
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: I assume because all the media is there, so now you.

905
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: And it's still flag football game?

906
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still yeah, because.

907
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: Like they've changed it every year for seven years and

908
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: rub they changed it again or no, still flag football

909
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: or do you need to check real time to see

910
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: if they changed it in the start?

911
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: Is this the first year it's not going to be

912
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: the Manning brothers coaching.

913
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, a good question.

914
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: That's a good question.

915
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: I did see some of the Manning casts, so the

916
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: first time in a long time. Uh, it's not bad,

917
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: but they're like completely ignoring the game, like they're reducing

918
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: the game to picture and picture in the bottom of

919
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 2: the screen. Yeah, and he's up on a big board

920
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: going back to video from like the nineties and breaking

921
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: down some sort of concept and then the game is

922
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: literally minimized in the bottom right.

923
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 3: Now, Well, again, if you're if you're if you're watching

924
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: the Manning cast, you're looking for something totally different. If

925
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: you're just looking for a straight.

926
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, are they doing this because it's thirty to

927
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: seven and and the and the Giants kicker just stubbed

928
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: his foot into that roun.

929
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: Usually how it is, And I'll be honest, there's been

930
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: a couple of times that I've I've watched the Manning

931
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: cast in a closer game, or I care more about

932
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: it and I can do a little bit of it. Honestly,

933
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: I actually like it better when it's just the two

934
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: of them, because then they do totally focus on the game.

935
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: Once you get a guest in there, things get a

936
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: little different, you.

937
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: Know, especially when the zoom is terrible and like, so,

938
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: I mean, anyway, all right, what else do we need

939
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: to know about it?

940
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: You put that in winning behavior if you want.

941
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: Sean McVeigh and the rams ANGLESO need to know? Or

942
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: so we just advance to the big finish here and

943
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: get some winning behavior going. Danny has an opinion on

944
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: college football apparently, Well right, why I was.

945
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 4: Going to talk about that in winning behavior? Okay, it's

946
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: on there?

947
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 3: Well should should we? Why don't we get that intro there?

948
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: Omo before we get ahead of ourselves?

949
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 2: Can you display winning behavior?

950
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: You have to consistently display winning behavior.

951
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: That's winning behavior.

952
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

953
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: people to that standard. Yes, I didn't put this on here,

954
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: but Lane Kiffen is the first one and winning behavior.

955
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: And I'm not one to follow college football quite closely,

956
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 4: although I did say on the shuttle back to our

957
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: cars after landing Sunday Night to Day Pass that he

958
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 4: called history with the egg Bowl. It was Kiffen's final

959
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: game with ole Miss, and holy smokes, college football is

960
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 4: just a completely different animal. He gets ole Miss to

961
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: the point they're eleven and one on the verge of

962
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 4: making the playoffs, and he decides to dip and go

963
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 4: to LSU, and holy smokes, it's hard to keep up

964
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 4: with everything I was seeing online, but at one point

965
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 4: I saw that LSU was sending three planes because they

966
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: were expecting Kiven to bring a significant amount of his

967
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: coaching staff. Kiffen was under the impression that he was

968
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: going to be able to coach ole Miss through the

969
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: playoffs and then go to LSU. And my favorite picture

970
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 4: was the the wheeling cart of the clothing rack that

971
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: was out on the tarmac with all of Lane Kiffin's

972
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 4: clothes because ole Miss is so upset. They said, get

973
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: your stuff out of here.

974
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: When it comes to winning behavior, this is this is

975
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 3: this was This was a actually a talking a conversation

976
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: we were having on the plane. I don't I'm not

977
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: sure if you were already into sleeping because you had then.

978
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 2: I was writing the Coaches TV show.

979
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: That's what it was. But there was a handful of us.

980
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: Kyle d'erroni who works with us, Dave Pash was involved,

981
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: our boss Surf was involved. But it is mind blowing

982
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: to me the number of people, famous people. Now there

983
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 3: was arguments of why these famous people were doing it

984
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: last week, but like the number of people saying that

985
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin should be allowed to keep coaching ole Miss

986
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: even if he took the job, I don't. I can't

987
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: even wrap my head. What what? What the ef for?

988
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: You have been talking about props that is about as

989
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: unwinning behavior as you can find.

990
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: Props to Kiffin's agent because supposedly Kiffen will get whatever

991
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 4: bonus he was set to get with ole Miss if

992
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: they win from LSU. So if ole Miss wins at all,

993
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: Kiffin is still going to get a million dollars from you, who,

994
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: by the way, is now paying three coaches salaries.

995
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Wow.

996
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 4: It's like and and here's what what really was icing

997
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 4: on top was today on Twitter. I saw this. It

998
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: was a quote tweet I guess the founder or CEO

999
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: of Crumble Cookie. Oh yeah, I saw that went to

1000
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: BYU and pretty much tweeted he's got to put his

1001
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 4: foot in the He's got to put his foot down

1002
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 4: to make sure that BYU doesn't lose their head coach,

1003
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 4: implying that he was going to put down big money

1004
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 4: for their coach.

1005
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: Y and State's trying to get the BYU coach.

1006
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 4: So I guess if you're buying their cookies, you are

1007
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: supporting b Why you's coach? I don't know, it's just

1008
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 4: it's it's craziness.

1009
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: You mean a q Shipley didn't come through with a

1010
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: big donation to the Penn State program. No, we don't

1011
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: know that. The next coach, I mean, come on, now,

1012
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: back now.

1013
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: I do know, like North Texas's coach, I forget where

1014
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: he's going, but they they did come to an agreement

1015
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 3: like this is North Texas best year in forever. He

1016
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: is going to coach through the bowl game or whatever

1017
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: their situation is. And that was everybody else. But I

1018
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: guess I kind of understand that with North Texas being

1019
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: a lot very obviously a stepping stone kind of school,

1020
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: and more importantly, wherever the guy's going, it's not in

1021
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: the same conference as North Texas. I mean literally, this

1022
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: is like Ole Miss and LSU play each other every year.

1023
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 3: They're trying to win the same conference. That link Kiffin

1024
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: would think, Yeah, why wouldn't they let me stick around

1025
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: and have an extra month to recruit all these good

1026
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: players to transfer after the season, And now.

1027
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 4: He's coaching his daughter's boyfriend because his daughter's boyfriend's the linebacker.

1028
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: I just love the fact they wheeled his stuff out

1029
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: onto the tarmac. I mean that that's hilarious. I mean

1030
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: it's a kin to the wife throwing the husband's stuff

1031
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 2: out on the curb. I mean, that is that's outstanding.

1032
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: Jonathan Smith when he bolted Oregon State from Michigan State.

1033
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: The next day, somebody went to a local goodwill and

1034
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: there were a ton of Oregon State jackets and all

1035
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: this other gear with Jonathan Smith inscribed inside, like the lapel,

1036
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: and it was all because he just put in a

1037
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: huge box and dropped it off at the local donation center.

1038
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: It's funny. I didn't mind getting into winning behavior so

1039
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: quickly because it's we're all it's very sports related. And

1040
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: in fact, these are the other two things I had

1041
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: in there were NFL related because I wanted to get

1042
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: to one again. Not winning behavior. I understand egos fans

1043
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: or whatever they are, and I understand they're upset. But

1044
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: people went and egged the offensive coordinator's house.

1045
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: And there's video of it out there because they took it,

1046
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 2: and then what people do these days. Yeah, it's just.

1047
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: It's so infuriating. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Well, no,

1048
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: it's not the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There are

1049
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: dumb things out there, but.

1050
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: You can only hope the video will be their downfall

1051
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: and somehow they'll get identified off the video and brought

1052
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: to justice. Yes, yes, okay, and then Jackson Dart.

1053
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: Okay, where everybody watch Monday's game.

1054
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean clearly Paul did. He's got it out

1055
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 4: for the kicker.

1056
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: Oh that's true, young Hku. You're you're just not there.

1057
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: Anything better than the kicker was the pylon cam of

1058
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart flying airborne above the pylon cam of the

1059
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: first down marker.

1060
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 3: You've had multiple concussions. And the best part I heard

1061
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: Chris Canty on ESPN Radio this morning, a one time

1062
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: defensive lineman in the league, basically saying, I don't see

1063
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: what the big deal was. It was a shoulder hit.

1064
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 3: That's not going to hurt Jackson Dart. I'm like, what,

1065
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: First of all, he went flying so far that he

1066
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: had a chance to land on his head and give

1067
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: himself a concussion. What are you talking about?

1068
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: And I mean, you've just missed X number of games.

1069
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: You've talked about being available for your team, and then

1070
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: you don't get out of bounds. It's a kind to

1071
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: when Buddha Baker put that message out in this press

1072
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: or a couple weeks so for Trevor Lawrence, Hey, thou

1073
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: shalt be subject to a big hit unless you slide early,

1074
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: because you have a tendency to get down late, and

1075
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: you'll pay the price if you don't get down. And

1076
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: there's no doubt Buddha put that out there for Trevor

1077
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: Lawrence to hear.

1078
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: Against the Cardinals, Baker Mayfield played smart with his hurt

1079
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 4: non throwing shoulder. You have to learn that, and that's

1080
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: you don't want to learn from the sense of getting

1081
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: a bunch of concuss I don't know if.

1082
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: You have to learn it. I think you have to

1083
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: make the decision that I'm not going to be tough guy.

1084
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 3: I mean, there's been a lot made of how Jackson

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Speaker 3: Dart and Cam Scataboo have vibed so well together. Is

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00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: because Jackson Dart was a one time running back and

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00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 3: he never really got that mentality out of his system. Okay,

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00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 3: that's fine, but if you get hurt, you're not helping anybody.

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Speaker 3: And I thought the Patriots were looking to lay the

1090
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: lumber a little bit yesterday, but real quick, it was

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00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: funny to me. Not funny, haha. The guy who was

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00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: made a big deal about it last night on the

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00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: broadcast and saying he one agrees that these quarterbacks basically

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00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: should be punished because they all slide late. And it's

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00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 3: a bunch of who he was Troy Aikman, who again

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00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: had maybe sixty two thousand concussions in his career. You know,

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Speaker 3: he's saying quarterbacks you don't you don't get to like

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00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: and and Patrick Mahomes has been a bad influence on

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00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: the rest of the league. I think running on the

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00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: sideline pretending he's gonna go out and then not. I'm

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00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: with it, like all, I'm okay with the rules that

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00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: protect quarterbacks, but the quarterbacks gotta like take advantage of

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00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 3: the rules and and not over advantage of the rules

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00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: and and basically put these defenders in a bad place.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, if you want to play that

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00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: style of ball in a playoff game, I get it.

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00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones three years ago ran it like seventeen times

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00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: in the Giant upset the Vikings. Remember that it was

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00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: Brian day Ball's first year. By the way, a Q Shipley,

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Speaker 2: Brian day Ball your next head coach at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: We'll see about that. That name was be getting thrown

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Speaker 2: out there. I heard this morning on National Rule.

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00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna have Zach Gershman and a Q Shipley to

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Speaker 3: a short Penn State broadcast.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Uh so yeah, so okay, the two teams

1116
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: said that we mentioned obviously are tracking for the Super Bowl, right,

1117
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: the Bears and the Patriots, of course. Yeah, so that's

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00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: of course that's who for that.

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Speaker 3: Coming from nineteen eighty six, I mean twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: That might have been the worst super Bowl all the time.

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Speaker 3: That was the eighty five season, the eighty sixth.

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00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: When the Bears won like forty six. It's ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my goodness, Walter Payton couldn't even get a touchdown. Yeah,

1124
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 3: they had to give it to the fridge.

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Speaker 2: That's right, You're absolutely right. Oh.

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Speaker 3: Danny's like, oh, we all we went full circle. We

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00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: went from one thing I don't know anything about to

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Speaker 3: something else I don't know anything about.

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Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here with a smile.

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Speaker 1: I bet you Brian watched that Super Bowl probably.

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00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: And I bet he was out by halftime like most

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00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: of America.

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00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: He was like, I wasn't even a twinkling and I nope.

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Speaker 2: By the way, is there now a commercial campaign to

1135
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: make the Monday after the Super Bowl National holiday. Have

1136
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: we seen any of that? Have you seen that?

1137
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: So that would that would absolutely be winning behavior.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you know, that's where it's tracking. It's

1139
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 2: going to be eighteen regular season games, so there's gonna

1140
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: be two buys, and then they're going to use President's

1141
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: Day weekend another week later into the month of February.

1142
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: That'll be Super Bowl weekend, super Bowl Sunday, but then

1143
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 2: America will have off Monday for President's Day. That's where

1144
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 2: this whole that's the grand vision of rog of Roger Goodell.

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00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: That's what it was tracking what the Rams are pretty

1146
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: good as they come to town.

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00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 2: And especially coming off a loss.

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00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, see that that kind of makes me hesitate a

1149
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: little bit, like they're not probably all that thrilled.

1150
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: So a number of guys talking about, okay, we got

1151
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: to reset things, and so what does that look like?

1152
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: Rams resetting things?

1153
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: And so well, let's put it this way. The Cardinals

1154
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 3: had their way with the Rams in their home game

1155
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 3: last year. That was a million years ago. Week two,

1156
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 3: Marvin went off, the Cardinals dominated. Rams are in a

1157
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 3: much different place.

1158
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: And it was a close game. In Week seventeen last year,

1159
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: Remember at that's the helmet off the helmet.

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00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, they played well against the Rams last year,

1161
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: and I'll be fascinated. I mean, part of the problem

1162
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: that the Cardinals have right now because they still got

1163
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: to play the Rams twice in these final five games.

1164
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 3: You've made the joke a few times like they're going

1165
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: to be resting everybody in that last I don't know

1166
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 3: if they are. Everybody in this freaking division is even.

1167
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: They might have to win all the way out.

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00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, after they dropped that one, there's three teams the

1169
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 2: NFC West with nine wins. They're vine with the Bears

1170
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: again and other teams like Philly. The last thing the

1171
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: Rams want is to go to Philly and play another

1172
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 2: snow game like they did a year ago when they

1173
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: lost a pretty close game and played pretty dang well

1174
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: in the elements at Philadelphia. Eagles go on to win

1175
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. So do you think the Rams right

1176
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: now would value home field after what happened last.

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Speaker 3: Year although they should have won that game. We go ahead.

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00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 4: Well, so we've heard from Nick Rolis and Jonathan Gan

1179
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks that the last handful of

1180
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: games on the Cardinals schedule, they're facing a coach or

1181
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: a play caller who comes from the Sean McVay treat

1182
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 4: and now you're getting ready to face Sean McVay for

1183
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 4: the first of two times. I mean, even though the

1184
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 4: Cardinals play well against the Rams, he's tough to coach against.

1185
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 4: He's very creative, he gets a lot out of his players,

1186
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 4: and the fact that they have a non mobile quarterback

1187
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 4: as non mobile as they come in Matthew Stafford, it's

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00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: tough to stop him.

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Speaker 3: I want to before we get out of here. I

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00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: did want to bring up one thing I think I

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00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: brought it up before where TJ. Huschman Zada said that

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Speaker 3: Michael will went right after the draft that Michael Wilson

1193
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: was the best receiver in that class. Okay, so Jason

1194
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: was in that class. Pooka Nikoua was in that class.

1195
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. However, round five.

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00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: The reason I'm bringing this up Puka's Pooka. But Marvin

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior comes back, plays really well well, but hurt

1198
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 3: is he heal? So now we don't know if he's

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Speaker 3: going to be out there against the Rams, if Michael

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Speaker 3: Wilson has to be wide receiver one again, Pooka or

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Speaker 3: Michael Wilson This weekend I'm just asking.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, all right, that's interesting.

1203
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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 2: Huschmanzade in the news for another reason as the assistant

1205
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Speaker 2: coach of Carson Palmer. Carson in year one as a

1206
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Speaker 2: high school coach just won himself a Section championship in

1207
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Speaker 2: San Diego. How about that. I could see Carson Palmer

1208
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: being a Jim Harbaugh.

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00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: Oh yes, right, without the weird tics.

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00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: Harbaugh goes to the University of San Diego, they win

1211
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Speaker 2: big at whatever level that is, and then Stanford was

1212
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: like one in eleven they hire Harbaugh. I was like,

1213
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 2: what he's got, zero experience, comes in resurrect two years later,

1214
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Speaker 2: he's beating the juggernaut Pete Carroll coach double rainbow USC

1215
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: and the rest has been history. I could see Carson

1216
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: Palmer doing that.

1217
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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. I think Carson Palmer would have the

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01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: gravitas to do that. The differences Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh

1219
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Speaker 3: sons of coaches. They were always gonna be coaches. Carson

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Speaker 3: Palmer will never be a coach beyond the high school level,

1221
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: in my opinion, because he's got too much other stuff

1222
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: in his life and he has no desire to spend

1223
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: that much time being a football coach. That would be

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01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: my thought.

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01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say, there's no way he's

1226
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: gonna wear the same outfit every day, the same khakis

1227
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: and sweatshirt every day.

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: Like he'll grow a mustache for no shave November.

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Speaker 2: By the way, yes, how about Mike Vrabel. It goes

1230
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: to the top of the powerpole mustaches. And then in

1231
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Speaker 2: Sad News, Ben Steele, America's tight end coach, he shaved

1232
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 2: his mustache. Saw it in Tampa on the sideline. I'm like, coach,

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Speaker 2: where's the mustache? What's going on?

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Speaker 4: You probably had the same thought for you, Paul, You're training,

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01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 4: can't mustache.

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Speaker 2: That's a good walk on, Darren, do you want.

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Speaker 4: To do you want to end the podcast?

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01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 3: No? No, which way?

1239
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: This week?

1240
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm absolutely good?

1241
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm totally good.

1242
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: Is there it did not make anything this week?

1243
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: In the old days of TV news, there was the

1244
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: follow up file? Is there a follow up file? The

1245
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: last week's conclusion? No, no coda.

1246
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: The sner went, well, he turns off the mic.

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Speaker 2: And that'll do it for this edition. Cardinals Underground brought

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