1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: It is about that skill set. It's about the hands, 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: it's about the putting, it's about the imagination. It's you know, 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: we're going to see a wide variety of shots come Sunday, 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the last nine holes, it's going to be it's going 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: to be an incredible display of of artistry. Put another 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: log on the fire nobody hears given time. Hello, does 7 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Allie ship knuckle? Welcome back to another fire Drill podcast. 8 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm with Michael Bamberger Matt Janella. Behind us is the 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: eighteenth hole of the Old Course. Is ninety five pm 10 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: on Friday. They are still playing golf. We're gonna try 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: to keep her voice stops so we don't interview us. 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: One's putting stroke on the eighteenth hole. There's a lot 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: going on here. Um, guys, one hell of a dig 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: off we got. We got to start with Tiger because 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: he was as great as camp Smith played and Rory 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: and Victor Hovland and Dustin Johnson, I mean, big game 17 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: hunters on the leaderboard. But this is the day that 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: was all about Tiger. So, Michael, what were your thoughts 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: about Matt floor Right here I met Matt. Matt, what 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: do you think? No, we're not we're not starting with Tiger. 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Where we are starting with is the first tea announcement 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: that Michael so boldly predicted would be to the first 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: tea Mark Calcavecchia, Guys, I woke up this morning specifically 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: to play this audio and trickle this into this podcast. 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: Jake played the tape. This is game number one, and 26 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: that's why we're starting with Mark Kucaebecia. Do you understand 27 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: they that's yes, you missed the whole. It's only mistake 28 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: I've ever made my life. Yeah, I mean that's epic. 29 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Like they started at six thirty five, here we are 30 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: fifteen hours later, they were still playing golf. It's an 31 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: incredible testament to the will to get this thing in 32 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: off of one off the first two only, which you 33 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: have to do. I mean, you can have a guys, 34 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: finish on number nine out there that would just be wrong. 35 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: But it's the old courses, unique with all the holes 36 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: that cross each other and the loop like it just 37 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: leads to slow play. But all right, we thank you 38 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: for that, Matt. We appreciate your efforts. He gave up 39 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: your sleep for the listeners. Man, if you woke up 40 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: to Mark huckebec yet, what do you think missus Sheila 41 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: Walker did, because she's only down the street here one 42 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards. If that well, I feel I 43 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna get to Sheila Walker, because I 44 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: did end up talking to the great Sheila Walker, the 45 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: great great granddaughter of old Tom Morris, as she was 46 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: peering out her window as Tiger was finishing up. So 47 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: we will get to her because that happened. I was 48 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: able to reconnect with Sheila as she's looking out her 49 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: window as she's overlooking the Eighteenth Green after Tiger Woods finished, 50 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: which was a big part of the story I'm writing, 51 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: which I'll file and published Sunday morning, about all these 52 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: connection points that are happening for me this week. But 53 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: now I feel like we can actually talk about Tiger. 54 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, before we talk about Tiger, I 55 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: feel like we should hear the fact that Tiger was 56 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: announced to the first tea earlier today, and that to 57 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: me is worth listening to. This is Tiger Woods, the 58 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods. That's awesome. You gotta love it. I do 59 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: want to note, in the context of Sheila Walker, that 60 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Matt said he would actually leave his wife for Stila Walker, 61 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: considering she's like eighty years old. It's a bold statement. 62 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: And we all love Katie, but um, that's the affection 63 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: we have for Sheila. But unless also the accent, the accent, 64 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: but also the apartment on the eighteenth hold. I mean, 65 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: it's it's tempting for us all. Now let's move on, Michael, 66 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Tiger access to the first team. Can't you get us 67 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: off the course? Yeah? Well did you? I read this 68 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: week that some family had sixteen times on the old 69 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: course in perpetuity. They were granted that as as some swap. 70 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: And in nineteen ninety two the RNA sixteen times every 71 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: single day foursomes on the old course. The RNA bottom 72 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: out for like a quarter million dollars or pounds just 73 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: to get those times back. I don't I don't know 74 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: the whole story, but I want to know it now. 75 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: For like the sixth time, let's talk about Tiger Woods. Michael, 76 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: we were, we were out there right by the eighteenth green. 77 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: Matt was the eye in the sky from his perch 78 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: heir at the Russi's Hotel. It was a big moment. 79 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: It was a little melancholy, it was emotional. The floor 80 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: is yours. You know, I didn't appreciate until today. I 81 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: just actually kind of never focused on it that he 82 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: played in the nineteen ninety five British Open as an amateur, 83 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: and then later that summer, let me see, I had 84 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: my timing right, he won the US Amateur on Really, 85 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: you know, people like to say, oh, I've played links 86 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: scurses in the United States, there are very very few. 87 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: There's no true links scorses. But I would say the 88 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: closest thing I've ever seen to a links scores nine 89 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: States be Fisher's Island, which not many people have gotten 90 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: to say, a Newport Country Club back when Tiger won there. 91 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: And when I think about it, this like continuum, which 92 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: kind of a word of the week, like old Tom 93 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Wurrise is a phrase of the week for you. But 94 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: this continuum of Tiger really beginning his links Land golf 95 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: here and then winning at Newport against Buddy Marucci in 96 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: the US Amateur, and then carrying on and on and on, 97 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: and to think that this is could be the end 98 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: of the line, likely will be the end of the 99 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: line of his British Open on the old course where 100 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: he so proudly says it's my favorite course in the world. 101 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: It's my favorite. I don't know if he says it's 102 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: my favorite, my favorite course in the world. I think 103 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: you'd have to be emotionally dead not to be not 104 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: to be moved by that. And the fact, you know, 105 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: he's a jocular person when he says, you know, well, 106 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: I've got a locker at the old course, but like 107 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: he meant it, it's a big deal. He's got a 108 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: locker in the in the RNA Clubhouse, and you can 109 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: tell that it means something to him. And I think, 110 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think it has been forties. He's finding 111 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: out that this game, like Trevino is saying the other day, 112 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: has made his life possible. And to say that it 113 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: is really to say that the people who support this game, 114 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: like the three of us, and like you know, the 115 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: few hundred people are show out here at ten o'clock 116 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: at night, they've made Tiger's life possible. I've gone on 117 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: too long here, but there's a lot going on here 118 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: in every level. Well, and you know, Tiger, who we 119 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: all know, grew up on these very scruffy public courses, 120 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: these military courses. The fortress that is the RNA Clubhouse. 121 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: It's the ultimate inter sanctum more than anywhere else in 122 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: the golfing world. And you know, he's talked very publicly 123 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: about he wasn't welcome a lot of places because the 124 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: color of his skin. And now he has a freaking locker, 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: and you that's something that you can't buy, and it's 126 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. I know I've said this several times already. 127 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: But the flip side to that, Alan, it's his public 128 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: golf course. And I think we're all, whether you really 129 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: think about it or not, I think we can't help 130 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: but be drawn to the fact. You know, we're all 131 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: we all have public golf in our background, especially these days, Matt. 132 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, you can't overlook the fact that's a municipal 133 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: golf course. Yeah, Matt, You've been a part of Tiger's 134 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: professional life in a lot of ways. As the photoed 135 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, I think your your professional lives are very intertwined. 136 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: What did you feel watching Tiger come up eighteen? No, 137 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: it was a complete circle of my life. I mean 138 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: it's a complete circle of certainly my professional life. And 139 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: you know I was saying to you guys my first 140 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: week at Sports Illustrated in nineteen ninety six, as the 141 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: photo eder was Tiger's first week as a pro in 142 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Open, and obviously, I you know, so for me 143 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: to sort of start there and then be here to 144 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: watch him walking, you know, hit that opening T shot, 145 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: walk down the fairway, and then to watch him hit 146 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: that eighteenth T shot and walk up this fairway and 147 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: over the bridge and down the middle and uh, you know, 148 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: to acknowledge the crowd tip his cap. This was you know, 149 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: the the one little glitch in the whole system was 150 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: that he missed that birdie putment. This was am We're 151 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: just being shushed, I think by the marshals because someone's 152 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: putting out on eighteen. So I mean, I think it 153 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: was the y'alls down, Okay, okay, we're going. But no, 154 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean I think it was definitely, you know, to 155 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: answer your questions, is emotional. Definitely was emotional. It's not 156 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: to say that I cried or that I you know, 157 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that I got twos. But I 158 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: just think that this was this was a ceremonial moment 159 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: in the in the career of somebody who again eighty 160 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: two and fifteen, this is this is something we're never 161 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: going to ever see again. This is I think I 162 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: always made a point of cherishing the idea that we 163 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: were seeing greatness as it relates to what happened on 164 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: the golf course. There's also a little bit of sadness 165 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: to me that we're saying goodbye to a guy at 166 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: forty six. We mentioned this yesterday. There's definitely a sadness 167 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: to the idea that I'm not sure that this is 168 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: the last time he's at Saint Andrews and the last 169 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: time that he says goodbye to this crowd, because as 170 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: several people have pointed out to us as we're walking 171 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: around town, Jack Nicholas is still saying goodbye. Like Jack 172 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: Nicholas said goodbye, he said goodbye again. He just got 173 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: the Keys day United said said goodbye again. We're going 174 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: to see Tiger Woods at Saint Andrew's. More, this was 175 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: the last time he teed it up with the idea 176 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: that he could potentially win the golf turn. That to 177 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: me is what's sad at the age of forty six, 178 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: like he is so broken by his own doing in 179 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: so many ways, in so many levels. That's to me 180 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: is what's ultimately sad about this that this was you know, 181 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: and again eighty two fifteen, even missing years a worth 182 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: of time as a competitor because of his own doing. 183 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: Ben Hogan threw himself in front of his wife to 184 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: avoid an oncoming bust, Like that's not what Tiger has done. 185 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: So there was sadness, there was you know, there was emotion, 186 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: but it's it's different. It's just different. It's I'm still processing, 187 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, well, to Michael's point, I'm 188 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: slightly dead inside. But um, and I've never had great 189 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: chemistry interpersonally with Tiger. You know, you can be so 190 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: remote and when he was he was a golfed I 191 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: just playing enter and we were SI we weren't on 192 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the team, and he kind of let us know that. 193 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: And so I don't feel an emotional connection to him, 194 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: even though I've loved writing about him and doubt he's 195 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: made our writing lives way more exciting and interesting. But 196 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: as I watched him coming up eighteen, I really felt it, 197 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: like in my chest. It was it was a moment 198 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: and um, the panorama of these glorious buildings and the 199 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: just the these grandstands that go all the way to 200 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: the sky, and I could hear a bagpiper out there 201 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: on North Street and the shrieking gulls, and it was 202 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: just very evocative. You know, Sheila Walker, Matt's crush hanging 203 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: out of her window. Um, the tweety old gents on 204 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: the on the balcony the RNA building. It was like 205 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: all of Saint Andrew's came here to show Tiger off 206 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: and to say a proper goodbye. And it was meaningful. 207 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: He's he's given so much to the game and the 208 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: game has taken so much from him, uh in certain ways. 209 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: And um, I thought it was a special as happy 210 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: out here. I was here for Jack Kubye um and um, 211 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: you know that that was more celebratory. You know, he 212 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: was hale and hardy and well into advanced age. And 213 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: it was like it was the right time. As you 214 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: guys said, it's too soon for Tiger, and we all 215 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: feel that, but um, it was a moment, and I 216 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 1: think we're all lucky to be here. And and I 217 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: thought Tiger handled it with a great class. And the 218 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: golfing gods never disappoint you know. Roy McElroy's walking down 219 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: the first fairway. He's kind of the heir apparent to 220 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: be the the voice of the game and the conscious 221 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: of the game in a way that's maybe Tiger never 222 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: was but um and for you know, I think that 223 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: was what kind of broke something loose inside of Tiger 224 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: was on Roy tipped his cap. That was cool, and 225 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: right behind him was JT and Bones and they were 226 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: making eye contact and it was there was a lot 227 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: going on there, and it was it was special to 228 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: be here, so special. I think, why don't we let 229 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: the listeners actually hear what it was like to hear 230 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods come up the eighteenth fairway and all the 231 00:12:45,240 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: way to the green. Jake rolled the tape. Shout out 232 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: to Jake Wildowney, our ace producer back in the lab. Um, 233 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: now we can we can move on from Tiger and 234 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: we have one hell of a leaderboard here. You know, 235 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Cam Smith there was I was doing the math my head. 236 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Can you actually shoot fifty nine? I mean, if he 237 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: birdied in you it maybe do something crazy on eighteen. 238 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: But he played a phenomenal round to kind of take 239 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: this tournament by the throat. But Rory went out really 240 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: late today and he gave a great chase. Victor Hoblin's 241 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: right there. Dustin Johnson kind of set the pace early. 242 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: Let everyone know that this golf course was here for 243 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: the taking. We should note that there was a lot 244 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: of moisture overnight into the morning, and so the course 245 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: definitely played slower and softer, and still it's still it's 246 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: still a very firm and test, but it took a 247 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: little fire and the wind never came today really, so 248 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: it was it was the ideal scoring conditions. But what 249 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: do you think of the way this leaderboard of shaping 250 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: up hanging at the weekend? Michael, You know, it's interesting 251 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: to hear your phrase to take it by the throat, 252 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: because I don't have that feeling at all. I feel 253 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: like a double bogey. Even though we haven't seen the blowups, 254 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: we know they're coming only because they always do come 255 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: in open championships. So you know, it's astounding that the 256 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: guy's thirteen hundred through two rounds, but I think he's 257 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: won double bow get from bringing a lot of people 258 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: in and I think we'll have a crazily interesting weekend. 259 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: And just one notice, as we're standing here, you know, 260 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: in the in the in the dusk, like you can 261 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: see how green this golf course got just with really 262 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: another with just a little bit of rain. But at 263 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make is this golf course 264 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: lives like very few places do, and like Augusta National 265 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: is spectacular. We all live being in Augusta National, but 266 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: august National so manufactured. Here's like it was brown yesterday, 267 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: today it's green because we got a little bit of 268 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: overnight rain. It's wild. Yeah, Matt, Matt, what do you 269 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: think the way this weekend is shaping up? No, I 270 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: mean this is all we could have ever asked for. 271 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: Like I said, when the game I sort of tweeted 272 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: that out earlier, is the week is like when the 273 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: game really needed this kind of cleansing, this kind of 274 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: soulful massage. You know. I was like, you can count 275 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: on the old course and with the leaderboard, we've we've 276 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: now you know, sort of said goodbye to Tiger. This 277 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: clears the decks for for this battle. And it's it's 278 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: there's this not a lot of people are gonna talk about, 279 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: but there's there's kind of this battle for the for 280 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: the soul of the game at stake. Like there's there's 281 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: guys that are on the board that are live guys, 282 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: and there as guys that are on the board that 283 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: are very strictly you know, PGA Tour guys, and I mean, 284 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: there's just seems to be so much more at stake. 285 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: There's like, there's this one hundred and fiftieth playing of 286 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: the Open Championship, and and I just I'm I just 287 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: as a fan, as someone who loves to observe, you know, 288 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: major moments. Certainly this is one of the most major 289 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: majors that I've ever witnessed because of all that's going 290 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: on here, I cannot wait to see how this unfolds. 291 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: I disagree that people aren't going to talk about it 292 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: because if you get Rory and Dustin on Sunday Live 293 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: versus PGA Tour, I mean, really, these show horses reached 294 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: circuit and no one dislikes Dustin. I don't think, Um 295 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: I could say something snarky that might get a suit, 296 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: I won't. Um. You know, Dustin's is a people's choice, 297 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: but they're people will take sides, and of course Rory 298 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: having you know, the quasi British background, and of course 299 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: um being an Open champion like he will be the 300 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: people's choice, but there will be a whole spiky element. 301 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: You know. Greg Norman's gonna have a bunch of tweets 302 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: in his draft folder waiting to see and Taylor couches 303 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: on the board too. Um, we all shout out to 304 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler, who there is a great lineage between the 305 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: Masters and the Old Course, a lot of repeat champions. 306 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: And of course we all know that Bobby Jones took 307 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: the design principles and the strategic values of the old 308 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: Course and put him on a park land setting. And 309 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: that was the genius of Augusta National. But um, yeah, 310 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely um oh, leaf blowers all right. Leaf 311 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: Blower crisis is over one thing that Michael pointed out 312 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: in our in our press room, bulls with Dustin. He's 313 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: won on Oakmont, which is probably the ultimate US Open venue, 314 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: He's won on Augusta National. If we were to win 315 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: an Open on the Old Course, there's always been a 316 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: sense that as much as Dustin has done, he's a 317 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: slight underachiever. But if he gets this one, I mean 318 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: that those are the crown jewels of golf, really and 319 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: it would be also you could say a PJA Championship Valhalla, 320 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: but that's it. Otherwise he's got them all, and um, 321 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: that's a joke. People end up. But yeah, I mean, 322 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: so there is it. I don't think Dustin is consumed 323 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: by golf history per se, but he's very prideful. Like 324 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he told me one time he really wanted 325 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: to win the freaking fed X Cup because it bother him. 326 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: He's always second or third, and of course you want 327 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: the money, but he's like, yeah, of course he wants 328 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: some money. But it was also like there was an 329 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: element there like I'm tired. I know I'm better than 330 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: these guys and somehow they're finishing ahead of me, and 331 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: that like bothered him. So I think there's a little 332 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: more heat in there than that we would think. But 333 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: what are the other potential storylines on the board that 334 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: that gets you excited? Michael Well, I mean we you know, well, 335 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: when you get beyond you got cam Smith one of 336 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: the players, You've got Rory and of course Dustin Johnson 337 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: representing their two tours. But just a quick side note 338 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: on that. I don't think ordinary golf fans are going 339 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: to see it as this live PGA Tour divide. I 340 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: think one hundred and fifty year history of this thing, 341 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: the thirtieth time being at the Old Course, I think 342 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: that really carries the day, and I think people will 343 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: just be so happy it's been such a harsh time 344 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: in this world and just be able to sit back 345 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: and spend the weekend watching, you know. And we've all 346 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: had this experience being at home. You wake up early 347 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: in the morning and there's the golf. They always say, oh, 348 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: you're going to watch the golf. There's the golf on TV, 349 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: and just let the whole thing unfold as it has 350 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: here for for well literally centuries. I think that the 351 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: I think they'll live PGA Tour Divide is not going 352 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: to be a factor for the ordinary golf, and I 353 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: don't think it'll be a factor for me either. I 354 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: think I'm just really eager to see the shots and 355 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: see how the course holds up to you in the 356 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: modern game. I agree with that, but it is it 357 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: is a funny sideline. Um some other names you mentioned, 358 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: Adam Scott with a very sporty sixty five to get 359 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: himself wild. I mean, he's been so quiet, but you know, 360 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean his stated goal is always to win the 361 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: career Grand Slam. Like he that's the standard he set 362 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: for himself and he's he's only a quarter of the 363 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: way there. So um Patrick can't lay with a beautiful 364 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: round to get himself in it. I mean Matt Fitzpatrick 365 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: six under today and to get to surge up to 366 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: a tie for twelfth. I mean, these are these are 367 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: a lot of ballers. And it's so funny when you 368 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: talk about the old course, like, oh, there's so many 369 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: lucky bounces, it's so quirky, it's blind, it's the rub 370 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: of the green, and yet it's the best freaking players 371 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: on the leaderboard time after time. It's not luck. They 372 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: deal the bad bounce better than the other guys. Maybe 373 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: mentally they're stronger, but you can't have this many great 374 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: players at the top and say there's any element other 375 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: than just pure skill, imagination and shot making. Um, Matt, 376 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah? I mean that this this 377 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: sort started saying this golf course will continue to identify 378 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: like a champion in a way that is about that 379 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: skill set. It's about the hands, it's about the putting, 380 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: it's about the imagination. It's you know, we're going to 381 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: see a wide variety of shots come Sunday. The last 382 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: nine holes, it's going to be it's going to be 383 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: an incredible display of of of artistry, so he thigala 384 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: that we just that I keep bringing up, but like 385 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: he's having so much fun. Like think about Jordan's Spieth 386 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: in his prime or Rory McElroy in their prime, or 387 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods in their prime. The reason why they were 388 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: in their primus because they were having fun playing the 389 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: game of golf. And I think the person that goes 390 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: out like Cam Smith, he's just an Like he's just 391 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: an incredible putter. He's making putts from all over the place. 392 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: He's a good ball striker. Obviously you don't when the 393 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: players without doing that he's got, He's got all of it. 394 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: So he's gonna be really hard to beat. Like you know, 395 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: uh DJ's got a lot of raw ability, but like 396 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: Cam seems to be so willing to make big puts 397 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: or long puts and not even be surprised by it 398 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: like he is, and you know, he he's just rolling 399 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: the ball on the hole. So I as much as 400 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: I would love to think that there's going to be 401 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: this big bunch up and things are gonna happen, I 402 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: just think Camp Smiths can be hard to be but 403 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: it's it's just because it looks like he's having so 404 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: much fun playing the game of golf right now, and 405 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: that's always really here. If you've got that talent and 406 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: that punning stroke and you're having fun, good luck. Yeah. Well, 407 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: and I mean maybe the best chipper in the game 408 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: right now through his hands are just so phenomenal. The hands, 409 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: And you know one thing in these conditions especially, there's 410 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: three part fours in the back nine they're drivable ten, twelve, 411 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: and eighteen. And then you've got the mother of all 412 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: part fives with the hell bunker and all that, and 413 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: then you've got the road hole, which can has broken 414 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: a lot of hearts. Like, the combination of attack and 415 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: defend is just so spectacle on this whole golf course, 416 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: but especially the back nine, and especially the back nine 417 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: on Sunday, Like, I just think the old course dishes 418 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: it out in a way that's really cool and unique. Yeah. 419 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: I just think we're going to see a wide variety 420 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: of pin placements this weekend that are going to force 421 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: all of what we're talking about, the hands and the 422 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: imagination and the defense or these the strategy is still 423 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: to come. We're at halftime. I was just looking for 424 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: the pin on one. Yesterday was insane. Today it was 425 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: more insane today for the first time really all week. 426 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm a little embarrassed to say, but I really walked 427 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: the entire course and really looked at every pin. It 428 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: was crazy where they had and they're still shooting super low. 429 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: There's really nowhere for them to go. Like August National 430 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: US opens, they moved towards Sunday. They were on Sunday 431 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: on Thursday and they upped it from there. I don't 432 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: know where they can go from here. I mean they're 433 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna put in the valley the sin here. I don't 434 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: know what they can do, but they are trying every 435 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: every every trick in the book. You know, if they 436 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: reduced drivers to thirty eight inches, they might have a chance, 437 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: but that's not going to happen. What was Tiger was 438 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: Tiger say spicy? I think he's talking about the pin 439 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: on twelve, And I mean there's there's lots talk about 440 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: the pins, but I think that's cool. I mean there's 441 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: so the humps and undulations and the bowls like that 442 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: makes it so much more interesting when either you can 443 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: you can use them to advantage or mediaco shot gets repelled, 444 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: like that's what this place is all about. So you know, 445 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: put them wherever you want, RNA, because that's what we need. 446 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: If you guys are gonna drive a four hundred yard 447 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: it's on these fast fairways. You need something to make 448 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: it spicy again. Can you imagine a rider cup at 449 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: It's one of the funnest things ever. Can imagine? Yes, 450 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: different national How many different nationalities? We have? One, two, three, four, five, 451 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: six seven? Is that six different nationalities on that board 452 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: right now? Five? Yeah? I mean that's neat and it's 453 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: the most international of all the championships. It makes sense. 454 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: So um anyway, it was it was a hell of 455 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: a day of golf and um any any final thoughts 456 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: for yours? Hamilton Hall? How would you like to go 457 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: to the University of Saint Andrews And here's your dorm room? 458 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: It's Hamilton Hall we're looking at right here. You know. 459 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: Now they're condo it's worth millions and millions of dollars. 460 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: But it wasn't that long ago. It was just a 461 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: dorm How well does that? I got a chance to 462 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: go out that you'll see the video last later this week. 463 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: But I got a chance to go to that roof. 464 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: I thought the Russis roof was insane. Which it is, 465 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: and the jigger in is to go from the jiggerin 466 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: to the Russis rooftop bar to the deck at Hamilton 467 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Hall was like this incredible sort of stare step of 468 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: views and perspectives on this golf course. And some people 469 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: I know who bought a flat there, thinking that they 470 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: were going to have an incredible vantage point for the 471 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: Open Championship, realized very quickly that actually the grandstand block 472 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: their view. So the party they had actually ended up 473 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: being on the being on the rooftop. But that was 474 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: that's this is uh, this is the good stuff. And 475 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: then I got to then I got to watch Cameron 476 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: Young tee off today while having at the RNA clubhouse 477 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: behind me. It turned around and there goes Cameron Young 478 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: as he sets off on his shot sixty nine today, 479 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: I think, and uh, one hell of around. Obviously, by 480 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: the way, considering Cameron Young, what we're having said his name, 481 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: So I mean this this again. And then I went 482 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: out to the fourteenth hole and had that person walking 483 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: along the golf course and I mean, this is I 484 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: just I'm so in love with all of this, all 485 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: of what's happening here and this week and this weather 486 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: and now here how many how many people are this 487 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: army of you know, volunteers. You know, it's essentially superintendents 488 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: and agronums from all over the world. In theory are 489 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: got yellow buckets and they're roaming the fairway of one 490 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: and eighteen filling divots. You know, it's it's happening right now. 491 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: I goes like I said, Scottie Shuffler and his wife 492 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: thanked this group on seventeen, a couple of days ago. Obviously, 493 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: Carmen leads to two good scores and that's why he's 494 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: up on the leaderboard. Has nothing to do with his play. 495 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: It's just strictly karma. But no, is this this is 496 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: some sort of like love letter to the game of golf. Yeah, 497 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: you can ask Matt question, because Matt, is this your 498 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: first open in Saint Andrew's no fifth. It's coming through 499 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: to me as new and fresh to you, and I 500 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: don't I kind of curious as to why that would be. 501 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: I know, this path into old Tom has opened your 502 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: eyes in new ways. Because the question I was going 503 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: to get at is like it's such a democratic experience 504 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: being here, because like I mean, you have people, you know, 505 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: Mike Arco or Jerry Tardy, the long time editor Golf Digest, 506 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: or just wander around. But then just you know, regular 507 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: punters and pensioners and kids. I think they've given out 508 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: twenty thousand tickets to kids. You don't see this at 509 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: any American tournament, Like I don't know. It's just such 510 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: completely different atmosphere. And you know, people have often asked 511 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: over the years, you know, why is the Open Championship boys, 512 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: the British Open your favorite tournament. And I think we 513 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: all have a sense of why that would be the case. 514 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: It's just it's truly open, not just for the players, 515 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: but but for the fans too, all walks of life. 516 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's not expensive, it's not a hard 517 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: ticket to get particularly and uh it's open. Yeah. And 518 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: even just observing how the marshals like again, I walked 519 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: down the eighteenth fairway coming home from the Jigger in 520 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: the middle of the night, and the security guard that 521 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: came out and greeted us in the middle of the 522 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: fairway ended up taking our picture in the middle fairway. 523 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't to like, get us the hell out of here. 524 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: And if you watch the players crossing the footpath between 525 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: one and eighteen when they're when they're walking down one 526 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: or coming up eighteen. It's not this like overzealous, like 527 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: power hungry group of people saying stand back, you can't 528 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 1: go holding ropes. It's just literally like, hey, let them 529 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: all go. It's it's, it's it's it's such a relaxed, uh, 530 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, sort of sensible attitude, like they're golfers, not gods. 531 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: What's the big deal. Just let them through and you 532 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: stay out of their way. But we don't have to. 533 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: It's not the queen coming through. It's not the queen 534 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: coming Like we we overcook so much about everything relating 535 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: to professional golf in America, and this just like everybody 536 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: puts their guard down. And that's true of not only 537 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: the players, not only of the volunteers, and not only 538 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: of the security, but also of the spectators themselves. It's 539 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: a very it's just a very peaceful experience. It's very warm. 540 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: It's it's it's uh, I I don't know, yeah, I 541 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: don't know why this is other than it's maybe it's 542 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: one hundred and fiftieth. Maybe it's because we are here together, 543 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, working together. Maybe it's because of the freedom 544 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: we have to do what we want to do and 545 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: how we want to do it. It's it's all the 546 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: people I'm bumping into, all the connections I'm making time. 547 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trying to put that in words, 548 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: which is the story I'm writing, but I don't know. 549 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: I think it's very chilling that you referred to coming 550 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: from the jigger in home and then your neighbor down 551 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: the street it is her home, and she said so 552 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: elegantly the other night it's my home. The home of 553 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: the home of golf. Is I was chatting with the 554 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: woman who lives in the home of the home of 555 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: golf this afternoon, getting a reflection. It's so cool, I mean, 556 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: to your point. One thing that happened overnight which is 557 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: so cool is the Links Road runs down the right 558 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: side of the eighteenth Ferry and there's a big barrier 559 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: that separates the tournament grounds from just the town of 560 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Saint Andrews. And yesterday there's a big twel fence and 561 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: they had you know, green mesh, so you couldn't see 562 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: through the fence to block it off. Because you didn't 563 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: buy a ticket, you can't watch the tournament. But people 564 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: were standing up on the base of the fence peering 565 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: over and they're holding their phones over and instead of 566 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: bringing in a hundred you know, goons to shoot them away, 567 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: the r and as like, you know what, let's just 568 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: take all of the green mesh out. And so now 569 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: even if you don't have a ticket, you can stand 570 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: right on the road and you can watch the first 571 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: hole on the eighteenth hole with as good of you 572 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: as anybody. Yeah, they did over. They did an overnight 573 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: because I took a picture yesterday. People they're standing on 574 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: those red and white barriers peering over the fence like 575 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: doing chit ups to see over. Probably not save um. 576 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of ways that ARNA could have 577 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: handled it. The best possible way is take down the 578 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: mesh and let everybody enjoy it. So like an extra 579 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: five or ten thousand people stood on that road today, 580 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: got to watch Tiger come up eighteen and sharing that 581 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: moment forever. And Okay, the RNA didn't get their thirty 582 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: pounds for the ticket, but they just said, you know what, 583 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: this is cool, this is inclusive, this is this is 584 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: bringing the tournament closer to the town, And like, how 585 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: great is that? Because would the USJA make that decision No, 586 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: they would bring in a bunch of Pinkerton's and like 587 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: sweep the road probably with like fire hoses and German shepherds, 588 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: and you know, it would just like Bull Connor and 589 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: we stand on there at the top of the road 590 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: like checking credentials, and instead they just like, yeah, you're 591 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: welcome here, come watch the golf. Like how great is that. 592 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: The other thing that I think a lot of people 593 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: get confused is like the RNA clubhouse is full of 594 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of members they actually have nothing to do 595 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: with the golf. The RNA runs the Open Championship. The 596 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: RNA membership is like this whole separate membership of a 597 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: bunch of people who just drinking Jenna talks, who who 598 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: like occasionally get together and play golf. Terms that the 599 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: Links Trust actually manages the golf Like there's this big 600 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: sort of kind of miss perception that the the you know, 601 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: the RNA and the membership runs all that's relating to 602 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: the golf course. But in reality, the Links Trust actually 603 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: manages this land, so it's kind of that that's I 604 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: think that's also part of it is there's this is 605 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: the land again that belongs to the people, that's managed 606 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: by the Links Trust and not by the you know, 607 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: there's a group running the tournament. There's a group of 608 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: people gathering there that are part of a member RNA membership, 609 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: and then there's all these clubs that line this road 610 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: that I mean, it's it's there's I think there's layers 611 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: and layers to all of that too, that everybody there's 612 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: not like one specific group of people like we're in control, 613 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: this is ours, we're sharing it with you. It's us. 614 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: It's like the people of Scotland sharing it with us. 615 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: And that's the sense I get. Yeah, I mean the 616 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: RNA make the rules for actually an entire world except 617 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: for the United States. Uh So it's yeah, they're global stuff. 618 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: All right. Well, oh go ahead, Matt. You know no, 619 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: I just want to thank I want to thank Russick's 620 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: Hotel because obviously we are sitting here in this incredible 621 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: perch as though we're like a couple old guys in 622 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: the Muppets overlooking the action. We're three and not two. 623 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, it's it's really it's really special to 624 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: be able to do what we're doing right now. Obviously, 625 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: Link Soul for everything that they produce and their soulful 626 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: approach to the game is something that I certainly appreciate. 627 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: We all appreciate and their support for everything that we do. 628 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: Seed Golf, you know, an Irish based golf ball company 629 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: that is just new to the fire Pro Collective that 630 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: we're very appreciative of. We have you know, par Points, 631 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: you know Brandon Kevin. These guys are you know, created 632 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: that app that we so much support, certainly as it 633 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: relates for me to family Golf for going out and 634 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: playing a short course, playing a couple of short holes 635 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: with your kids. Download the app, go make part now. 636 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: And the list goes on and on. But I just 637 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: want to make sure we we thank them for all 638 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: their support. Thanks all of you for listening. We do 639 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: appreciate this is why we're here. We're not just on holiday. 640 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all about the golf fans. That's that's 641 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: why the fire Pro Collective exists. So in all sincerity, 642 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: we appreciate you listening and reading and watching. So we 643 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: will do this again tomorrow at the end of the 644 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: third round. Its exciting now, like it's feel like we've 645 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: been here a long time. But things are accelerating. Things 646 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: are escalating, and this term is gonna get sorted out 647 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: to a large degree tomorrow. I can't which see who 648 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: the protagonists are and how it all goes down. So um, 649 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: thanks again for listening. And um it's ear. I don't know, Um, 650 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: that's my phone, My bad. Um all right, this is 651 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: Allen ship nuck, that's imagine Ella. That's Michael Bomberger. We're out. Bye, 652 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: put another log on the fire? Are we here? Is 653 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: get the Time