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Speaker 2: should be. So it's not uh, it's not about bad news,

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Speaker 2: it's about good news. Heavy dose of Jared Smith today.

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Speaker 2: Huh Jared Smith with us FSR betting analyst rich Ornberger.

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Speaker 2: Our guy is out today. But I'll tell you what, Jared.

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna change lives. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: set the expectations too high, but I think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: change lives today.

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Speaker 3: The bar is always high with this show, and so

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Speaker 3: the S two. I never took the S two. I

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Speaker 3: took the SAT, it took the ACT, never took the

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Speaker 3: S two. But I'd be curious what score would be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of want to take it because

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Speaker 3: I want to see what these guys go through.

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Speaker 1: I've heard it is insane. Yeah, it is you are

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Speaker 1: gaming setup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's wild. So that's the rage

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Speaker 2: in the NFL right now. It's this S two test.

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Speaker 2: It's a cognitive test. So, like Jared's talking about, they

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Speaker 2: give you a computer screen and you're just reacting. It's

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Speaker 2: how quickly you process stuff. They might show a shape

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Speaker 2: of a diamond within a bunch of clutter and you're

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Speaker 2: just reacting to where the diamond is and that type

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Speaker 2: of thing. It tests your cognitive skills over here. And

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Speaker 2: so this is the new test. There are teams that

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Speaker 2: swear by it. There are other teams that don't care

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Speaker 2: at all about it. So it's a mixed bag. But

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Speaker 2: the S two test results are in now. This is

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Speaker 2: according to Bob McGinn covered the NFL for a long time,

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Speaker 2: in particular the Packers. So at the top of the class,

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young ninety eight percent. There, Jared, that is wild

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Speaker 2: lightning better than borrow right, mahomes like all those guys crazy.

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Speaker 2: Will Levis ninety three percent, Will the Thrill, He's up there.

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Speaker 2: Then you get Anthony Richardson at seventy nine percent respectable.

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Speaker 2: Then you scroll down, scrolled down Hendon Hooker, the Tennessee

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Speaker 2: quarterback forty six percent, and then I mean bottom of

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Speaker 2: the barrel in terms of the top quarterback prospects.

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Speaker 1: CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud from the Ohio state. I thought it was the

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Speaker 2: Ohio state. It's not the Ohio state. With this test result,

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Speaker 2: he're eight eighteen percent eighteen percent, Jared.

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Speaker 3: They wouldn't let him into Ohio state if they if

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Speaker 3: they found out that test score, right, It's like you, Well,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing. And I had a really good conversation

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Speaker 3: about this yesterday with Sean King on a different show,

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Speaker 3: your former Bucks quarterback. I do some work with him

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Speaker 3: for one of the networks in town, and he loves c. J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud and he thinks when he watches the tape and

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Speaker 3: the eye test, he thinks to himself, well, how can

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Speaker 3: you put.

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Speaker 1: Stroud over Levis?

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Speaker 3: And I understand that line of thinking because we weren't

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Speaker 3: that high on Will Leves either or Anthony Richardson Fry.

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Speaker 1: I am you might, okay, I am, that's fair compare.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest.

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Speaker 3: I'm changing my tune and I'll give you I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you why I'm changing my tune. And that's the thing

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Speaker 3: about this draft is it's not about what I think.

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Speaker 3: It's not about what Sean King thinks, what do the

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Speaker 3: Texans think, What do the Cardinals think?

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Speaker 1: What do the Colts think?

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Speaker 3: And that's the hard part about this draft, trying to

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Speaker 3: predict it, trying to figure out who's gonna go wear

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Speaker 3: and putting all these puzzle pieces together. It has nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with how I view these players. It's where

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Speaker 3: the NFL is in terms of ranking and grading people

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Speaker 3: right now, and right now the soup de joor is

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Speaker 3: this S two test, whether it's fair or not, that

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Speaker 3: has been kind of this benchmark that I'm hearing, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Because you turn on the tape and you watch CJ.

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Speaker 3: Georgia in the National semi final. But then you kind

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Speaker 3: to be taken high, and CJ doesn't fit that criteria,

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Speaker 3: where a guy like Will Levis does. I guess the

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Speaker 3: Will would not do well on that. But in this case,

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Speaker 3: he's become I think the second quarterback in this class

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Speaker 2: I'm so out on Stroud, so out.

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Speaker 1: I am now too well.

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Speaker 3: I made a big bet Levis over Stroud the other

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Speaker 2: It's not just this S two thing. Man, I've been

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Speaker 2: out on Stroud. Really fair, You're right, and this really

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Speaker 2: is another chapter in the book of why I'm out

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Speaker 2: on CJ. Stroud. When you look at the who's who

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Speaker 2: of talent he was surrounded by at Ohio State, I mean, really,

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Speaker 2: just think about this. Where you've got Garrett Wilson, who

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Speaker 2: was the offensive rookie of the year with the Jets,

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Speaker 2: that was his receiver two seasons ago with the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: With the Buckeyes over there at Ohio State, he also

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Speaker 2: his three guys. He's got three first round receivers who

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Speaker 2: You have Marvin Harrison ju who would be the top

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Speaker 2: he will be next year. You also have a Mecca Buca.

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Speaker 2: You've got Fleming in the mix, like you've got first

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Speaker 2: round talent. Go lord, those are just your wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: one's gonna go in the second round. It's insane the

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Speaker 2: his fault, but I'm gonna take it into account. This

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Speaker 2: reminds me Jared. We get into these conversations about college

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Speaker 2: football teams all the time where you'll hear someone say

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Speaker 2: it's not UCF's fault that they beat Arkansas Pine Bluff,

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Speaker 2: and you tappened. It's like, Okay, fine, it's not their fault,

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Speaker 2: won't have half the talent, at least initially, that that

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Speaker 2: That is sobering. Think about that, Jared, he won't have

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Speaker 2: half the talent at a much higher level in the

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Speaker 2: him in college. Sometimes going up against Maryland and Indiana,

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Speaker 2: you know, like, I think it is going to be

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Speaker 2: culture shock city and I am out out, out.

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Speaker 3: Out and you didn't even mention, right, de Paris Johnson,

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Speaker 3: who's going to get taken to the top ten of

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Speaker 1: And listen, I agree.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've watched Ohio State for years now. I've

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Speaker 3: watched J. T. Barrett slice and dice Penn State. I've

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Speaker 3: watched CJ. Stroud slice and dice Penn State. It's frustrating

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Speaker 3: to watch these Ohio State quarterbacks and then you watch

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Speaker 3: them in the NFL and they struggle, but in college

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Speaker 3: maybe there's something to that, and maybe that I don't

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Speaker 3: want to say that's the reason that all this is

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Speaker 3: happening because he chose Ohio State and it's just not

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Speaker 3: from the quarterback position. But maybe there is something to that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe just the culture at Ohio State is so strong

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Speaker 3: and they end up looking like Heisman Trophy candidates or

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Speaker 3: and then they get to the NFL and it's it

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Speaker 3: just doesn't translate. This draft has been fascinating because I

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Speaker 3: think at one point, and we've discussed all four guys

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Speaker 3: at one point, what is the actual top guy?

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Speaker 1: And it's Bryce Young?

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Speaker 3: And I felt like that all along, even though we've

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Speaker 3: had some fluctuations. There's been some moments whereas Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 3: there was moments where it was Levis.

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Speaker 1: There was even.

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Speaker 3: Moments right after Carolina pulled the trigger on the trade

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Speaker 3: that it was CJ Strout.

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Speaker 1: But I think cooler heads prevailed.

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Speaker 3: You look at Bryce Young's as two score and clearly

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Speaker 3: this metric is being used really really exclusively by NFL

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Speaker 3: teams to grade these quarterbacks, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: now it's the Levis love And I think that's the

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Speaker 1: You know, if if if.

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Speaker 3: CJ falls, someone has to rise, because I don't see

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Speaker 1: And it's a surprise to.

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Speaker 3: Me because I think if you watch the tape this year, right,

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Speaker 1: S Drawt could be the top guy, but.

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Speaker 3: He might fall out of the top five now and

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Speaker 3: it's and it might be Levis as this as this

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Speaker 1: His physical skills, and I don't know where he's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: I think two to Houston might be interesting, but definitely

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Speaker 3: either three or four, if if not two, that Will Levis,

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Speaker 3: the guy that couldn't beat out Sean Clifford at Penn's

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Speaker 3: second quarterback off the board the NFL Draft. It is

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Speaker 3: remarkable how this thing turns on a dime and how

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Speaker 3: the gambling markets really dictate who feel how you feel

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Speaker 3: about each guy on a given week.

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Speaker 1: But bryce one I feel good about. I feel good

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Speaker 1: Levis being the second quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I feel good about Will Anderson going in the top three,

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Speaker 3: top four. He's probably the best overall prospect on the

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, man is I hear you on the

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Speaker 2: Sean Clifford thing. But Will Levis is an underclassman. Think

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Speaker 2: about Josh Allen at Wyoming. He didn't start all four seasons.

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Speaker 2: You know, he rode the pine, he rode the bench

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Speaker 3: I think Will Levis is going to be a top

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Speaker 2: and you'll ramp it up every now and then, and

434
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Speaker 2: then you throw it one day on just full speed

435
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Speaker 2: and let's just see how I do. Your body's gonna

436
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Speaker 2: be like, WHOA, what is this? Like, that's what Kawhi

437
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Speaker 2: is doing. He's got the treadmill on a lower speed

438
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Speaker 2: during the regular season and tries to ramp it all

439
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Speaker 2: the way up, and his body's just like, well, oh, WHOA,

440
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Speaker 2: what's going on over here? That's the downside of load management.

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Speaker 2: So I just I don't understand why people seeing its

442
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Speaker 2: praises as much as they do when the downside is

443
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Speaker 2: staring at you right in the face. And Kawhi's missed

444
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Speaker 2: the second game in a row here today and that's

445
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Speaker 2: gonna wreck their season. They have no chance without Paul

446
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Speaker 2: George and Kawhi.

447
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Speaker 3: He probably hasn't played like, for example, you have to

448
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Speaker 3: win sixteen games to win the NBA Championship, in the playoffs. Now,

449
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Speaker 3: obviously you're not gonna win sixteen in a row. But

450
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Speaker 3: has he played sixteen consecutive game? And let's say it's

451
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Speaker 3: twenty and they have an unbelievable run and they make

452
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Speaker 3: it through the NBA Finals, they lose one game per series,

453
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Speaker 3: and they go sixteen and four.

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Speaker 1: Has he played twenty When was the last time he

455
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Speaker 1: played twenty? Kis?

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Speaker 2: It's a great point. I would bet everything I own

457
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Speaker 2: that he did never sixteen straight games the past season,

458
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Speaker 2: and that's I don't know the last time he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

459
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Speaker 2: I don't know the let right exactly they're gonna they'd

460
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Speaker 2: play you're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna play twenty five? You know, reasonably speaking minimum?

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Speaker 1: Probably sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And that's a great point. He hasn't played

464
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Speaker 2: sixteen straight I can't imagine. Think about back to backs.

465
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Speaker 2: He always sits out onto the two back to back games.

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Speaker 3: Now you don't have back to backs in the playoff,

467
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Speaker 3: which is nice. They give you an extra day, which

468
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Speaker 3: is also nice. But it doesn't seem to matter.

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Speaker 2: Here, right, right, But the point still remains. If he

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Speaker 2: hasn't played sixteen straight games in the regular season, how

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Speaker 2: do you think he's gonna fair playing twenty five plus

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Speaker 2: straight games, which is what it would take to win

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Speaker 2: a championship, and now.

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Speaker 3: He's missing more than he's played in the playoffs after

475
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Speaker 3: today or.

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Speaker 1: After really after the last game. But that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, we got to get to a playoff.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. A player poll which is very interesting and

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Speaker 2: also something that you mentioned about the attrition. I just

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Speaker 2: want to throw a quick point out there in a second,

481
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Speaker 2: but we've got Isaac Lowenkrawn throwing out many quick points

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Speaker 2: over our year show. Who is just information personified? What's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 7: I low Good morning, NBA playoff, Stanley Cup Playoffs, dominant

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Speaker 7: pitching in baseball? Let's get right two at three game

486
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Speaker 7: threes in the NBA Playoffs. Friday night, Nikoi leokicch a

487
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Speaker 7: triple double in Denver's one twenty to one to eleven

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Speaker 7: win at Minnesota. Denver leaves the series three games to none.

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Speaker 7: The New York Knicks over the Cleveland Cavaliers ninety nine

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Speaker 7: to seventy nine for a two games to one lead.

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Speaker 7: The Cavs seventy nine points, where the few was scored

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Speaker 7: by any NBA team all season nineties.

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Speaker 1: Knicks are, where's Charles Oakley getting it air?

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Speaker 7: Oh Charles Oakley, John starts Spike.

495
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Speaker 2: Going back to New York.

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Speaker 1: Go.

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Speaker 7: Oh that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The guy who came up with that song went on

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Speaker 7: to be that author who does all this crazy stuff.

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Speaker 7: I'll have to look up his specific name, but yes,

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Speaker 7: oh boy, that brings back some memories. So the Cavaliers

503
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Speaker 7: seventy nine points, Trey Young thirty two by himself. Atlanta

504
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Speaker 7: over Boston won thirty to one twenty two. Celtics still

505
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Speaker 7: lead the series two games to one. In Stanley Cup

506
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Speaker 7: playoff Game threes Friday night, the Los Angeles Kings and

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Speaker 7: Edmonton Oilers went to overtime. Here's Hall of Famer Nick

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Speaker 7: Nixon on the Kings Audio Network.

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Speaker 8: Lardi down behind the next Lardi centers in tight.

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Speaker 1: Stour chover more quitting and over.

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Speaker 7: Time, and so the Kings lead the series two games

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Speaker 7: to won. The Minnesota Wild defeated the Dallas Stars five

513
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Speaker 7: to one for a two games to one lead. In

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Speaker 7: Major League Baseball on Friday night, Pete Alonso became the

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Speaker 7: first of the Majors to ten home runs as the

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Speaker 7: Mets beat the Giants in San Francisco seven or nothing

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Speaker 7: and the Angels too nothing went over Kansas City Show.

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Speaker 7: Hey O'tani struck out eleven and seven innings, allowing two hits.

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Speaker 7: He is now three to zero with an ERA of

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Speaker 7: zero point six ' four, while in the Diamondbacks nine

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Speaker 7: to nothing went over. The Padres Arizona pitcher Zach Gallon

522
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Speaker 7: also struck out eleven in seven innings, allowing two hits,

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Speaker 7: and Gallon now as a scoreless streak of twenty one

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Speaker 7: and two thirds consecutive innings fellas back to.

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Speaker 2: You, thank you. I low freaking Otani is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: He's the best player in both in both sections of baseball.

527
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Speaker 3: Like that's just that's maybe not but a top five

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Speaker 3: pitcher and a top five hitter, Like honestly, it's it's

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Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. I'm grateful to be living in his generation.

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Speaker 1: I really, man, oh man, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Brian Though and Jared Smith with you here today, real

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Speaker 2: fast here before we get to this player poll here

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Speaker 2: by the Athletic, which was very very interesting this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just you threw a memory into my mind over here.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if that makes sense, But that's

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Speaker 2: what happened.

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Speaker 3: It was jarred your jobs. Yeah right, shop my memory.

539
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Speaker 3: Why on the treadmill jogging memories here?

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Speaker 2: You know you're talking about after the injury conversation, all

541
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Speaker 2: this attrition in the NBA, and it's a who's who

542
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Speaker 2: of super stars who have been banged up, who are out,

543
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Speaker 2: who are missing action. And I just want to say,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be a captain cranky pants here

545
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: or anything, but I gotta go back to we just

546
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: had March Madness and the Final four. It's an accomplishment

547
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Speaker 2: in college basketball, do not get me wrong, but we

548
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Speaker 2: make it out to be, in my mind, even bigger

549
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Speaker 2: and badder than it actually is. If you compare that

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Speaker 2: to the NBA, it's not nearly as celebrated to get

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Speaker 2: to the quote unquote final four, to get the conference finals. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but think about the Dallas Mavericks last season. Good example,

553
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: they beat Utah in six. That's when Utah still had

554
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Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert. Luca missed the first couple

555
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Speaker 2: of games. Remember he missed the I think the first

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Speaker 2: three games. Dallas was still up to one, but they

557
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Speaker 2: survived that series. They beat the Suns in seven. They

558
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Speaker 2: won Game seven on the road when they blew out Phoenix.

559
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Speaker 2: But which is more impressive? Is it what DA did

560
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Speaker 2: thirteen games, the attrition losing your superstar for at least

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Speaker 2: three of those games, or is it you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: beating a sixteen seed and then an eight and then

563
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Speaker 2: weaving your way to the final four. It's just funny

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Speaker 2: to me that college basketball the final four is adored

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Speaker 2: as much as it is, and in the NBA, when

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Speaker 2: oftentimes it's harder, we just like shrug our shoulders and say,

567
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Speaker 2: did you win a title?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 3: I agree because again, four wins gets you to the

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Speaker 3: final four, whereas four wins in the NBA gets you

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Speaker 3: to the second round. That's right, so, and it just

572
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: speaks to the difference in what the sports are I think,

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Speaker 3: And frankly, it's why I probably should bet the NBA

574
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: more because when you elongate the sample size.

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Speaker 1: To get all dead and nerdy here, you reduce some

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Speaker 1: of the volatility in terms.

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Speaker 3: Of the game to game craziness or madness that ensues

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Speaker 3: when you're watching these games. I mean, the one and

579
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Speaker 3: done nature of the college basketball tournament turns the intensity

580
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Speaker 3: level up from zero to one hundred in an instant

581
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Speaker 3: from the tip off of the first game. Even the

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Speaker 3: playing game of March Madness, the intensity level you could

583
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Speaker 3: feel it.

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Speaker 1: It is tangible.

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Speaker 3: In the NBA postseason, didn't really feel it the first

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Speaker 3: couple games, right. It takes a couple of games, and

587
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Speaker 3: unless you take that Knicks cav series and put it

588
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Speaker 3: in a different realm because that's being played like an

589
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Speaker 3: eighties nineties brawl between the Bulls and the Knicks, the

590
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Speaker 3: rest of the series do kind of have this low

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Speaker 3: and slow we're starting out, We're getting like a prize fight.

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Speaker 3: You're getting the feel it's a twelve round fight. We

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Speaker 3: got a lot of games left. You gotta win four

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Speaker 3: to get it to the next round. Whereas the college

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Speaker 3: basketball tournament, it's just it's such a different feel, even

596
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Speaker 3: though they're playing the same sport, Brian, it is a

597
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Speaker 3: very different vibe than what you're seeing in the NBA,

598
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Speaker 3: which again is a marathon. The college basketball tournament is

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Speaker 3: a sprint bang. Sixty eight teams are announced who can

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Speaker 3: get to six wins fast enough. And you saw Yukon

601
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Speaker 3: not show us a lot of the things that we

602
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Speaker 3: saw mid season, and then all of a sudden, they

603
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Speaker 3: turned it on and it was a sprint to the finish.

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Speaker 1: They just blew past everybody. That doesn't happen in the

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Speaker 1: NBA postseason. It's a slow build. For example. I think

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Speaker 1: a team like the Warriors is the perfect example of this.

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Speaker 3: This year's Warriors, did they show any fight, determination, or

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Speaker 3: fire like they showed in Game three the other night.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see that during the regular season. Now, granted

610
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Speaker 3: I didn't watch a ton and it's hard to watch

611
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Speaker 3: every night, but all of a sudden, they got back home.

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Speaker 3: They were punched in the mouth in Sacramento, and they

613
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Speaker 3: were out there enforcer as well, and you saw that toughness,

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Speaker 3: to grit, the determination that made them a champion in

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Speaker 3: Game three against Sacramento. And I think we're going to

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Speaker 3: continue to see their intensity level build and build. I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if they came back and won the

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Speaker 3: series because of what they can do when those moments

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Speaker 3: get and not all NBA games are played in those moments.

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Speaker 3: I had a friend who once said, you don't need

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Speaker 3: to worry about turning on an NBA game to the

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Speaker 3: last five minutes, because the first thirty, you know, forty

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Speaker 3: three minutes is just kind of they're all just kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, running around and trying to get themselves situated

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Speaker 3: for what the last five minutes are. And it's just

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Speaker 3: it's such it's almost like they're playing a different sport

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Speaker 3: even though.

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Speaker 1: It really is the same.

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Speaker 2: It is because right you look at it, March Madness

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Speaker 2: compared to the NBA playoffs, it is night and day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And look, I don't want to make it sound like

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Speaker 2: it's not an impressive accomplishment getting to the final four

633
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Speaker 2: in college basketball, because we know the drill. It's forty minutes,

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Speaker 2: it's one and done. You have an offshooting night, or

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Speaker 2: you know you're not you're not on your game, you're done.

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00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: You're freaking going home most likely. So you have more

637
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: margin for error in the NBA playoffs, granted, but for

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Speaker 2: it to be the war of attrition that it is.

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00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: And also the environments are a lot different. They ask

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson of The Nick last night, Hey, what made

641
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: the difference here in Game three? Is like, our fans

642
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: are proud they're three days in playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And a couple of years ago when they played

644
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Speaker 3: the Hawks, I went to one of the games and

645
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: I've never felt anything like it was electric.

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Speaker 1: And it's the same in the hockey postseason too.

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Speaker 3: If you ever go to a hockey post season game,

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Speaker 3: that that that that atmosphere is tangible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it can get going in March madness, but

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Speaker 2: the first couple of rounds.

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Speaker 1: It's not the same at the PNC Arena and it's

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Speaker 1: half empty.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a New York either of these teams

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Speaker 2: that are very local, totally different.

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Speaker 1: So, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just think that we shrug our shoulders way too

657
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Speaker 2: much when it comes to making it to the final

658
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Speaker 2: four in the NBA playoffs, and we're nothing but rose

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Speaker 2: pedals and red carpets for whoever makes it to the

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Speaker 2: final four in college basketball?

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Speaker 3: What was it like in American Idol? Was the final

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Speaker 3: four a big deal? Or it was all about the

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Speaker 3: final two?

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Speaker 1: Right? I don't know. Yeah, I'm not an American Idol guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to come up with Fox shows that are,

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Speaker 3: you know, based, that have competitions.

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Speaker 2: They need a final four. In the Masked Singer, apparently

668
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Speaker 2: they can really get the big people made it to

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Speaker 2: the final four. All right, We've got Jared Smith FSR

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Speaker 2: Betting analyst. I'm Brian though our main man, Rich Ornberger

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Speaker 2: out today, but he should be back next week. You know,

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Speaker 2: out today the Penn State all American, but we're rallying

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Speaker 2: in his absence on the next this this week, taking

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Speaker 2: what's he doing?

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Speaker 1: He's on the ir you know he's.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's on IRN.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were saying he was on iHeart you know,

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Speaker 2: like he's he's on iHeart affiliates this week and.

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Speaker 3: Season style taking a couple of days off, making Jerry's

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Speaker 3: arrested retract for the postseason run here.

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Speaker 2: Come it up next. This might sound like a bold statement,

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Speaker 2: it's not. This is the worst vote that was cast

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Speaker 2: in the history of any voting whatsoever. We will give

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Speaker 2: that to you. Right around the corner. It is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio, coming to

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Speaker 2: you live from the Geico from the Tireraq dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm battling. Computer issues over here, Jared.

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Speaker 2: I took my main computer in to get fixed.

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Speaker 1: Keyboard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, keyboard issues over it. So I've got my backup, backup,

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Speaker 2: back up, Like what CJ. Stroud is going to be

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Here pretty backup, backup, backup computer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's so kind of slow blowing, the blowing, the loading

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: I wish CJ the best. I really do, I really do.

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Speaker 3: I know this is probably a tough time for him.

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Speaker 3: He's probably seeing a lot of the news reports and

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Speaker 3: he's probably not like, maybe he's gonna pen the letter

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Speaker 3: like Anthony Richardson did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he could go on the player's tribune and right, hey,

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Speaker 2: NFL GMS, just to you.

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Speaker 1: Know, the S two score doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Someone tweeted at us that said, no one heard about

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Speaker 3: it last week, and I agree with that statement. It

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Speaker 3: is relatively new, but it's something that they take very seriously. Guys,

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Speaker 3: whether you like it or not, it's here to stay.

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Speaker 3: Analytics are here to stay. The nerd Revenge of the nerds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, processing information quickly sort of matters at

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Speaker 2: the quarterback position, got especially at the NFL le a

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Speaker 2: little bit, you know, so I can see why it's

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Speaker 2: a big deal. How about this. So the athletic they

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Speaker 2: did their twenty twenty three NBA player poll. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: they they had one hundred and eight players so that's

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Speaker 2: about a quarter of the league. And they were surveyed

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Speaker 2: and they were of course granted anonymity because they want

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Speaker 2: honest answers and they don't want their teammates to be

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Speaker 2: ticked off at them or league officials, rival teams, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 2: So we got everybody that cast a vote, they did

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Speaker 2: it anonymously. The one This is the worst vote in

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Speaker 2: the history of voting. I don't care if it's something

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Speaker 2: sports related, political, I don't care what it is. This

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Speaker 2: the worst vote ever. So they voted who's the greatest

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Speaker 2: player of all time? Jordan had the most votes. He

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Speaker 2: had fifty eight percent, followed by Lebron at thirty three percent.

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Speaker 2: You know who got one vote, Tracy McGrady as the

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Speaker 2: vat as the greatest player of all time. That is

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Speaker 2: utterly insane. The worst vote ever. Is there a vote

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Speaker 2: that was worse than that?

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Speaker 1: No, is the answer.

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Speaker 3: I can't even I can't even think of who that

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Speaker 3: might be. Like I'm trying to think of and and

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Speaker 3: to be fair, like it could have been someone just

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Speaker 3: trolling the vote. I hope that's what it was, because

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Speaker 3: you think about these guys there, you know, and they're

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Speaker 3: most of them are in their twenties, and they're they

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Speaker 3: don't have a lot of free time during the season.

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Speaker 1: And then imagine like the you.

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Speaker 3: Get back from practice one day and you know, the

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Speaker 3: kitman as they call it overseas, like you know, one

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Speaker 3: of the trainers or one of the administrative officials on

743
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Speaker 3: the team hands you this like stack of paper and says, oh,

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Speaker 3: you got to fill out this vote now, and this

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Speaker 3: guy's sitting there like, I don't know, it should be

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Speaker 3: best out Mac?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, why not?

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Speaker 3: Like I don't like how many guys actually took it

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Speaker 3: to I guess based on the results, but you know

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Speaker 3: most of them did. But my guess is the guy

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Speaker 3: that put Tracy McGrady probably wanted to troll somebody that

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Speaker 3: that's the explanation, right.

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Speaker 2: I hope so, because they had little quotes underneath each

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Speaker 2: of the categories, and you'd have a couple of the

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Speaker 2: quotes of why they voted for this player, and overwhelmingly

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Speaker 2: it was serious, but they didn't have the reason for

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Speaker 2: whoever voted versus t Mac. I want to hear that quote.

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Speaker 3: If you're the athletictron error, right, remember that happened?

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you're the athletic. Are you like, hey, this

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Speaker 2: is good, this is good. It's gonna at least catch

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Speaker 2: some attention. You're like, this is freaking bad, this is

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Speaker 2: this is gonna make the whole thing. I think, like

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Speaker 2: they take it serious. And yeah, they probably did something

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Speaker 2: else that caught my attention. You're building your roster from scratch.

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Speaker 2: Who are you going to sign first? That's the question.

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Speaker 1: I like this question.

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Speaker 2: And so Jannis was overwhelmingly the guy, about fifty two percent.

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Speaker 2: Jokic he was under nine percent, Luca a little over

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Speaker 2: six percent, and then you get to this guy, Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry at just under six percent, Jared. Steph Curry is

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Speaker 2: thirty five years old. Yeah, why in the why in

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Speaker 2: the world would you start your team the first guy

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Speaker 2: you sign? The first guy is Steph Curry? What are

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Speaker 2: you thinking right there? And that's way more than just

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Speaker 2: one guy voting that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that is interesting.

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Speaker 3: And maybe again maybe some of the lost in translation

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Speaker 3: of this poll, maybe some maybe some guys just thought

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Speaker 3: it was who's the best player right now in the

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Speaker 3: NBA that you'd want on your team to win a

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Speaker 3: championship if it was today and today only. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think I would consider Steph because in a and although

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Speaker 3: I forget who it was, I don't know if it

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Speaker 3: was you. One of my other friends told me, if

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Speaker 3: you looked up his late game shot making ability, it's

786
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Speaker 3: not as good as you might think. And his like

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Speaker 3: last two minutes clutch shot percentages is pretty low, which

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Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty low for most guys, I mean,

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Speaker 3: not everyone's MJ. Right, But I think in general, I

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Speaker 3: don't know who I would answer for that. I think

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Speaker 3: Giannis makes sense. I'll be honest, though, watching Jalen Brunson

792
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Speaker 3: these last few games in the playoffs makes me I

793
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Speaker 3: am falling in love with Jalen Brunson. And I was

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Speaker 3: critical of that deal early on, but man, oh man,

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Speaker 3: he has become a heart and soul of that Knicks team.

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Speaker 3: And it does kind of it does kind of beg

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Speaker 3: the question are you going more for talent or are

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Speaker 3: you going more for the centerpiece guy that you can

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Speaker 3: build around in terms of the heart and soul, the

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Speaker 3: captain type vibe.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're asked about who are you gonna start

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Speaker 2: first when you're building your roster from.

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Speaker 1: Scratch to be the most talented player? Right?

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00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: But it just it can't only be about the here

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00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 2: and now. It's got to be for the future. Who's

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Speaker 2: a stud and who's gonna be a around for a

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Speaker 2: long time?

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Speaker 1: Is Nina these Steph? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Next, d that would make way more sense than Steph Curry.

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Speaker 2: I had a flashback to I worked with Chris Haynes

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Speaker 2: in Fresno. The guy's doing all the NBA stuff and

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Speaker 2: court side stuff and all that, and we had a

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Speaker 2: similar question. This was like seven, who are you starting

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Speaker 2: your roster with? From scratch? And the co host that

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Speaker 2: I had at the time said Steve Nash, And we

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Speaker 2: looked at him, like, dude, Steve Nash, he's probably about

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Speaker 2: thirty something at the time, Like he's think how long

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Speaker 2: he's been retired compared to Lebron. Lebron is still going on?

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Speaker 2: All right, come it up next, Lawrence Taylor said it Son,

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Speaker 2: you all got to do.

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Speaker 1: Better than this.

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Speaker 2: Oh what's going on? Everybody? Hope you're enjoying your Saturday

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Speaker 2: morning over here. We've got NFL Draft on the brain. Also,

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Speaker 2: gambling gone wrong? Is there such a thing? Oh, there

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Speaker 2: So we start this hour with ah Man, a couple

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Speaker 2: of Detroit Lions who screwed up in a major way. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So Jamison Williams, he's the biggest name of these five

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Speaker 2: players who have gotten busted for gambling over here. They

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Speaker 2: violated the NFL's gambling policy. So Jamison Williams, Detroit Lions receiver,

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Speaker 2: he's been popped for six games. He was placing bets

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Speaker 2: that were not NFL related, but he was betting at

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Speaker 2: the Lions facility. Jared Smith. Oh, so he's gone for

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Speaker 2: six games. And it's and these other guys not big names,

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Speaker 2: but three of the guys are suspended indefinitely. They're eligible

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Speaker 2: for reinstatement after the twenty twenty three season. So when

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Speaker 2: you're betting on football, not a good idea. And we

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Speaker 2: just had Calvin Ridley get popped for an entire season.

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00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: This shouldn't be brand new news. You know, this is

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Speaker 2: not breaking news. So you gotta be smarter than this.

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Speaker 2: I flash back to Lawrence Taylor, the Great New York

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Speaker 2: Giant who was miked up for one game and he

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Speaker 2: sacked the quarterback or hit the quarterback and leaned down

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00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: and goes, son, y'all got to do better than this,

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00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: And that's this story with these players getting popped for gambling.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be better than that.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing about it, and listen. Obviously, this

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Speaker 3: is a pro gambling show. This is a safe space

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Speaker 3: for betting.

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Speaker 1: It is a part.

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Speaker 3: We're all inclusive here on Fox Sports Saturday. And I

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00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: think when you look at what happened, I can relate

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Speaker 3: to some of the rules being lost in the sauce.

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Speaker 3: For example, with Jamison Williams, he wasn't the now Ceefa's

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Speaker 3: two of the guys and then the one player on

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00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: Washington they were betting on NFL games. Yeah, that is

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Speaker 3: just you gotta be smarter than that. That fits exactly

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Speaker 3: into what the Lawrence Taylor quote is totally for Jamison Williams,

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00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: the guys that only got six games, they were betting

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Speaker 3: on who knows what. It could have been Russian ping pong,

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Speaker 3: but they were just at the team facility. And I

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Speaker 3: think that is where I kind of emphasize with those

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Speaker 3: players because I hope they weren't fully educated on what

867
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 3: the rules are of NFL's gambling policy. And let's be honest,

868
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: when you watch an NFL game, and these guys when

869
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 3: they're on their bye week or they play Sunday, they're

870
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: watching Monday, Thursday, whatever, when they watch an NFL game,

871
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 3: just like we do. The gambling is everywhere. Play a bet,

872
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: same game, parlay this, and it is everywhere. So I

873
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: understand why it might be a little bit confusing. The

874
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: NFL is preaching gambling, this gambling that they're in bed

875
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 3: with every sports book that wants to give them money.

876
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: I understand it's a business.

877
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: And then they pull out their phone and they bet

878
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: on the hockey game that's in town that night and

879
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: they get knocked for six games. To me, like I

880
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 3: would be frustrated too. They have to read the fine

881
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: print that says you can't make a bet while you're

882
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: physically located in the team facility. And frankly, there's an

883
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 3: easy way to do this. You tag the players accounts geolocator.

884
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: For example, when we log onto our apps, it geolocates

885
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: where we are so we can be in a legal

886
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: state to place the bet. If you're an account that's

887
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: owned by an NFL player. If you are at the

888
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: team facility, you just geotagg the team facility.

889
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: You can't make a bet here.

890
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I think there's easy technological ways to

891
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: avoid this. The problem is I don't think we're fully

892
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: up to speed with the technology, and I think the

893
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: education of what the players know or don't know about

894
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: the gambling policies.

895
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened with Jamison Williams.

896
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 3: Now the other guys that are betting on the NFL, Yeah,

897
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: you got that's just common sense. That's like you don't

898
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: walk in the middle of the street while the while

899
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: the light says, don't walk right Like, that's common sense.

900
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: But the other guy, Jameson Wents, I kind of I

901
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: kind of empathize with him a little bit because of

902
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: you could have been betting on like, you know, European

903
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: soccer or something that has so little to do with

904
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: the NFL.

905
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: But it was just where he placed the bet that

906
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: was the problem.

907
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, I have no empathy whatsoever for

908
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: the dudes who got popped for betting on football. No

909
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: that you guys insane, And I don't have as much

910
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: empathy as you do. Although I totally understand your your

911
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: point of view here and I like how you framed it.

912
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: But you have to know, no matter how many ads

913
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: you see for Draft Kings Fan Duel, bet MGM whatever.

914
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: You just saw Jamie Fox and KG for bet MGM

915
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: and then Wayne Gretzky. Yeah, right right. I love those

916
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: ads with Connor fantastic. Never that way, Bud, like, I

917
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: like that one's a lot better than the Zamboni race.

918
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: But anyway, you have to know as an NFL player,

919
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: those ads aren't for you. It's true, you know what

920
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, you have to get that in your

921
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: head where you can't be taking the Raptors plus five

922
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: and a half at the Lions facility. You can't do it.

923
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: You're gonna get popped and you're gonna sit for six

924
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: games at a minimum.

925
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: I think this is right.

926
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: There's my my My mom always said jokingly that you know,

927
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: me and my sister were her poster children for birth control.

928
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: This is I think.

929
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: Unfortunately we have some of the examples that are being

930
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: set and Jamison Williams is now the poster child for

931
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: know the rules because you're going to lose money over this,

932
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 3: and Jamison Williams, a young guy signed a big contract,

933
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: first round pick.

934
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine. He's you know. I think he's

935
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: gonna learn from this.

936
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: I think the response from him and his team is

937
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: his his his agent and his camp where it was

938
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: very strong, and he'll he'll sit the first six games

939
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: and and and everything will be fine from there. Unfortunately,

940
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: I do think Jamison Williams is gonna be the poster

941
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 3: child for gambling in the new NFL. Like Calvin Ridley

942
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: last year was a bad example because he was the

943
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: first one and he bet on the NFL and the

944
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: guys that bet on the NFL that you have to like,

945
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: that's just common sense. There is no example that needs

946
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: to be set there. I think what the example is

947
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: with Jamison Williams is read the fine print of the

948
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: gambling rules, guys. If you want to gamble, it's fine.

949
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 3: I saw, for example, I saw one of the prospects.

950
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: He's not even in the NFL yet, and I won't

951
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 3: tell you his name because I don't want to give

952
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 3: it away in case he gets picked by this team.

953
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: So I was across the street at the m casino

954
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 3: a few days ago, two weeks ago, I think, and

955
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: I see a very large human, very much larger than me,

956
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 3: roll up the crap stab but we had a baby face.

957
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: Clearly, he was very young.

958
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: He was playing craps with me for like an hour,

959
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: and he's a college prospect. He was visiting the Raiders

960
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: the following day, and he's probably gonna go in the

961
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: top fifteen, top twenty of the draft from based on

962
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: what I'm seeing. And I was actually asked king him

963
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: about gambling because I was sitting next to him and

964
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: that he was gambling. And we had the conversation and

965
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: he said he doesn't even have the apps on his

966
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: phone because he doesn't even want there to be any

967
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: issues at all with that.

968
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: And I respect that. He's obviously a guy that likes

969
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: to bet.

970
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: He's at the craps table dropping thousand dollars, you know,

971
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: tokens on don't pass.

972
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: But but he doesn't. I didn't love him when we

973
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: were when we when we were sevening out and I.

974
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: Was literally about to say, just don't tell me he's

975
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: betting on the don't pass.

976
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: Oh, but he's a smart guy. He's betting don't pass.

977
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 3: You know, Statistically speaking, it's a pretty good bet. But

978
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 3: it's obvious that gambling culture is part of the NFL,

979
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: and it's part of sports in general. Remember the Jordan

980
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: documentary that that security guard that played that. Oh, gambling

981
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 3: culture is part of sports. It's competition. It's the ability

982
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: to win and handle defeat and overcome adversity and beating

983
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: the odds. Right, all of those cliches.

984
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: It's just you just got to be small harder about it,

985
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: right guys.

986
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta be way smarter where you just My whole

987
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: thing is, look, if you're gonna do it, at least

988
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: do it in a way where you're probably gonna get

989
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 2: away with it. You know, Like I'm not talking about

990
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: doing like big time crimes or anything. You know, I'm

991
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: talking about sports gambling. If you know that you can't

992
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: do it, don't get on your app at your team's facility,

993
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, call a guy

994
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: who calls a guy who calls another guy that phones

995
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: in your picks or whatever. Just do it where it's

996
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: not traceable. Why would you do this yourself instead of

997
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: having a way in which you're you're getting away with it.

998
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: That's what's insane to me. It's like, if you know

999
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 2: there's a speed trap on the highway, if you're driving

1000
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: one hundred miles per hour in that speed trap, you're

1001
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: a freaking moron, you know what I mean? Like, do

1002
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: something in a way where you ad least stand a

1003
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: chance to get away with it.

1004
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: I think guys are and again I think Jamison Williams, Now,

1005
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: this is the next step of it, right, Calvin Ridley

1006
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: last year, I think it was three parlays on like

1007
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: five different teams. I forget what the exact that was,

1008
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: but it was on the NFL. Now this year, the guy,

1009
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 3: I think Quentin Cefhi's former Minnesota Golden Gophers receiver played

1010
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: for the lines and a backup safety they were betting

1011
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: on the NFL.

1012
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're gone.

1013
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 3: Jamison Williams is kind of in that gray area where

1014
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: he broke a rule, but it wasn't a major infraction.

1015
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: It was a misdemeanor and he got a slap on

1016
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: the wrist.

1017
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: I think the other NFL players, like I said, unfortunately,

1018
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 3: I think Jamison is going to be the poster child

1019
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 3: for read the fine print, guys, because what Jamison did,

1020
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 3: if he was sitting on his couch at home is

1021
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: completely fine. It's just the location of where he did it.

1022
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: He needed to write. It's like, you don't go to

1023
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: work and goof around. You can goof around when you're

1024
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: off work, when you're off the clock, when you're you know,

1025
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: at your on.

1026
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: Your drink exactly, exactly.

1027
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's just it's just the the little things.

1028
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: I think, because of this new gambling culture that is

1029
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: being indoctrinated into the NFL, because of all of these

1030
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 3: new sports books and all of the attention that sports

1031
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 3: betting is getting, you just have to be a little

1032
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: bit more buttoned up.

1033
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: I like what you're saying though too, about the geolocator.

1034
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: If there's a way that you could do that at

1035
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: your facility that prevents a mistake like that from happening,

1036
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: or you know, prevents a team a player knowingly doing that.

1037
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: You know, if it can prevent that, that's good for you.

1038
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: And I would offer that up, like I would say, hey,

1039
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: can you tag my account? So if I'm in a

1040
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: place where I can't make a bet, don't let me

1041
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: make a bet.

1042
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: Because what's the big deal? Go walk cross street to

1043
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: the coffee shop and make the bet. Okay, that's fine.

1044
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: Ist this crazy too, where think about just team by

1045
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: team across the NFL. There are some states where it's

1046
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: not legal anyway. You basically have your geolocator on. It's

1047
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: your state. You can't place a bet. Meanwhile, in Michigan

1048
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: you can if you're the Detroit Yeah, yeah, that's wild.

1049
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: You know, you say it's not legal some other states too.

1050
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: I would say Dallas, Houston, right, Texas is not legal

1051
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: yet some other places too, but Michigan legal state. Yeah,

1052
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 3: lead MGM, big stronghold in Michigan, Detroit. I've been to

1053
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: that MGM in Detroit. It's actually really nice.

1054
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: Very nice, very spacious, spacious.

1055
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: Beautiful view of Canada that.

1056
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: You gotta have that. Yeah, exactly, They've got the arch

1057
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: in the outfield. You gotta have Canada. You got a

1058
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: sports book right there. All right, We've got shared Smith

1059
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian not Rich Hornberger out today.

1060
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 2: We will reconvene with him next week. Coming up next.

1061
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about Jamison Williams. He has

1062
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 2: something to do with our next story and you will

1063
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,759
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1064
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,399
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1071
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Speaker 2: So we gotta weave our way back to these s

1072
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: two scores because this is a big deal.

1073
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 1: It's a big deal.

1074
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: So it tests cognitive recognition, and so when we're talking

1075
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: about the top quarterback prospects, it's a big deal. There

1076
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: are some teams that swear by this how quickly you

1077
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: process information. Other teams not as analytically driven, they don't

1078
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: care about this, but there are teams that are all

1079
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: about it. So Bryce Young top of the class, ninety

1080
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: eight percent. That is just like lightning speed. You saw

1081
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: that John Travolta commercial for Infinity during the Super Bowl

1082
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 2: right where they're talking about high speed. That is high

1083
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: speed Internet from Bryce Young, Will levis ninety three percent.

1084
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: Very good. You scroll scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll down.

1085
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 6: C J.

1086
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: Stroud reportedly According to Bob McGinn cover the NFL for

1087
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: a long time, c J. Stroud's S two results eighteen percent.

1088
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: Very slow, very slow. Now here's the thing, Jared. Put

1089
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: the test results to the side. Good for anybody who

1090
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: doesn't buy into this or who says, oh, like these

1091
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: scores have been debated. What's real, what's misinformation? Put it

1092
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: to the side. Just put it to the side for

1093
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 2: a second. Let's do the math here, common sense wise

1094
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 2: on CJ.

1095
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: Stroud.

1096
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: How quickly do you think CJ. Stroud is going to

1097
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: process information on the football field when he has half

1098
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: the talent around him in the NFL, at least initially

1099
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: compared to what he had in college. How do you

1100
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: think that's gonna play out? And just to do a

1101
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 2: little comparison here, if you go back to Justin Fields,

1102
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: Remember Justin Fields. The Ohio State quarterback went to the

1103
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 2: Bears and his last game, well second to last game

1104
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: in college, was that brilliant game against Trevor Lawrence. He

1105
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: threw six touchdown passes against Clemson.

1106
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: Remember that.

1107
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: Everybody remembers that. Yeah, he went onto the title game

1108
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: they lost to Alabama. But think about how that compares

1109
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: with CJ. Stroud CJ. Stroud. The last game we saw

1110
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: he was sensational against Georgia. Yeah, the game before that

1111
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: not so much against Michigan, but that's a distant memory.

1112
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: It's all about the Georgia game, right, So if you

1113
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: look at Justin Fields in that game, think of the

1114
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: talent that was around Justin Fields in that six touchdown

1115
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 2: performance against Clemson. Listen to these guys. Tenth overall pick,

1116
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, eleventh overall pick, Chris Olave, twelfth overall pick,

1117
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams. That's right, that's before he transferred to Alabama.

1118
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams had a touchdown catch in that Sugar Bowl

1119
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: game against Clemson. You also threw in just get out

1120
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: for seasoning Jackson Smith and Jigba. So Justin Fields had

1121
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: the tenth overall pick, eleventh overall pick, twelfth overall pick,

1122
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: and wherever Jackson Smith and Jigba goes this season, he

1123
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: had four first round wide receivers on the field when

1124
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 2: he was throwing six touchdown passes against Clemson. Now we

1125
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: get to Justin Fields in the NFL with the Bears,

1126
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: and he's got Equinimia, Saint Brown and Darnell Mooney and

1127
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: his passer rating is under eighty, which, by the way,

1128
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 2: for reference point, that's about what Carson Wentz did last

1129
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: year with the Washington Commanders. That's what Justin Fields has

1130
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: done as a passer in the NFL. You gotta get

1131
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: more more talent, no doubt about that. But you see

1132
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: the difference in what you can do with talent around

1133
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: you how you he might struggle with the lack of

1134
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: talent around you. And I think that's exactly what we're

1135
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: going to see, at least initially from CJ.

1136
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: Stroud.

1137
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: One of my favorite phrases in sports that I use

1138
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: this often cliches, and not just in sports, but in life.

1139
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: An embarrassment of riches. Yes, that's that I mean, and

1140
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 3: that's Ohio State in the nutshell. And trust me, I

1141
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: I am as penst I bleed Penn State blue.

1142
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: Just like our partner Rich Hernberger does.

1143
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 3: When I watch Ohio State play Penn State, I'm just

1144
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: waiting for the anvil to drop, because as good as

1145
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 3: Penn State is and their recruiting classes, the talent level

1146
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 3: at Ohio State is so good you have to play

1147
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: a perfect game against them to beat him. Georgia did

1148
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: that night that C. J. Stroud went completely bananas. I mean,

1149
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: he went off that night. He looked fantastic. If he

1150
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: plays that way in the NFL, he's gonna have a

1151
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: chance to succeed. But you're right, the talent level that

1152
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: he was throwing to that night will most likely far

1153
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: be greater.

1154
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: Than what we are going to see.

1155
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: Depends on where he goes, right, and it depends on

1156
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: what situation he's in, but it's going to be greater.

1157
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: And I think that's gonna be the biggest jump for him.

1158
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: And I do think the quarterback position. So this S

1159
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: two score if what happens next Thursday night takes place

1160
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: the way that I'm thinking the market is looking like

1161
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: it's going to take place, which is Bryce Young one

1162
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: to Carolina, Will Levis two to Houston, and then from there,

1163
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 3: who knows all heck could break loose, but I think

1164
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 3: Will Anderson will be in the top three. Also, maybe

1165
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: it's Anderson two, you know, Levis three. But my top

1166
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 3: three picks right now are Young, Anderson, and Levis perhaps

1167
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: in that order.

1168
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: Maybe you switch the last two.

1169
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: But if that does take place, this S two score

1170
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: is going to take over the conversation and people are

1171
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: gonna be asking, well, how did Drew Brees fair really good?

1172
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: He did take it.

1173
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: By the way, the average score for an average quarterback

1174
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: in the league is about the seventieth percentile. That's kind

1175
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: of the average. So when you look at Levis and

1176
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 3: you look at Bryce Young and they are I mean,

1177
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: it's almost like savant level NFL thinking. So it's really

1178
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: and again that that matters in today's NFL more I

1179
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: think than the physical stuff.

1180
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 1: And Will Levis has the physical stuff.

1181
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: Bryce Young, we've questioned his physical stuff, but I think

1182
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: he still has enough to at least, you know, start

1183
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 3: in the league. We'll see how long he lasts. But

1184
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: this cerebral way that the NFL is now moving to

1185
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: with the quarterback position, we have no idea because we

1186
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 3: don't really play, or we don't hear what's called, and

1187
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 3: we don't go through practices, and we don't you know,

1188
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: sit with these guys at night when they're studying. The

1189
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: amount of knowledge you need to play quarterback in the NFL.

1190
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 3: It's like trying to solve the theory of relativity. It's ridiculous.

1191
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 3: The check with me is the way that the the

1192
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 3: games are called. The information you have to process in

1193
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: a second, in a moment's notice. That's why this score

1194
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 3: is becoming so prominent with NFL evaluators, And again, it

1195
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with how we personally feel about

1196
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 3: Will Levis's chances or CJ. Stroud's chances of succeeding in

1197
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: the NFL when we watch college football on Saturday this year,

1198
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: if you were going to tell me CJ. Stroud's taken

1199
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: after Will Levis based on what we saw this Sat

1200
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 3: Saturday is in college football, you all would think we

1201
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: were crazy. But it doesn't matter what we think. What

1202
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: matters is the direction that the NFL is going in

1203
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 3: with evaluating the quarterback position. This score matters more than

1204
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: almost anything else. From what I've heard behind the scenes,

1205
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: they don't care that Bryce Young's five eleven and two

1206
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 3: hundred pounds soaking wet. What they care is he can

1207
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 3: process information at a level where it doesn't matter what

1208
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: his size is because the decision is going to be

1209
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: made quick enough and the ball is going to be

1210
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: out so fast he's not gonna get touched, right. That

1211
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 3: was always the Tom Brady knock, sixth round, soaking wet,

1212
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty pounds could probably throw him around

1213
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: in a wrestling ring, you know, easily. But the decision

1214
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: and the mentality was so good it didn't matter. The

1215
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 3: ball was out so fast you couldn't touch him. That's

1216
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 3: why Bryce Young's going first though for all in this draft.

1217
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing is two things. If I had

1218
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: my good computer, I would play audio for you that

1219
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: would just melt your brain. Here I can't the other

1220
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: fixed right pile up. Yeah, failed it. But uh, Trevor Lawrence,

1221
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: he was miked up last year and he was just

1222
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: calling a play in the huddle that was a mile long. Okay,

1223
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: there's so much information going on. And there was also

1224
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: an interview Drew Brees did with Dan Patrick and he

1225
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: was talking about calling a play in the huddle and

1226
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: the you know, the the uh the little headphone in

1227
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: your microphone in your helmet or whatever, right, like the

1228
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: speaker in your helmet. It'll cut out half the time,

1229
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: so it'll be like jet right, Yeah, you've.

1230
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: Got to do it.

1231
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: There's thousands of people screaming. You got ten guys in

1232
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: the huddle looking at you.

1233
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: It's intense. It's crazy. Like I always say this about

1234
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: Radio Jared, that's gonna sound strange, but I'm like, it's

1235
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: a never ending decision. That's what radio is, especially if

1236
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: you're driving. The show is like, Okay, what are we

1237
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: gonna talk about next? How long are we going to

1238
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: talk about it? What angle are we gonna take? What

1239
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: are we going to transition to. It's a never ending decision.

1240
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: That's just radio.

1241
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: Like.

1242
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: That's not being a quarterback of that's right, Angry men

1243
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: are trying to decapitate you. There's a lot going on,

1244
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: and how quickly you process stuff it's a huge deal.

1245
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 3: It's the most important thing with the quarterback. Honestly, Brian,

1246
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: I don't like him. Being five to eleven means nothing

1247
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: to me. It means absolutely nothing to me.

1248
01:02:59,440 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't care.

1249
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: And if I was an evaluator in the NFL, I

1250
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't care either. It's all about how you process the information.

1251
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: Can you get the ball out fast? So that doesn't matter.

1252
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,479
Speaker 2: Well, I'm mostly with you, but with to a tongue

1253
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: of I loa my guy, you know who can process

1254
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: information quickly, but he's just having a hard time remaining upright.

1255
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: And as a Dolphins fan, I mean, and as you

1256
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: as a gambler, imagine if you had the Dolphins over

1257
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: nine and a half wins last season. They got to

1258
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: nine to have missed five games, and also actually and

1259
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: also the playoff game. Well, at least get pushed. Yeah,

1260
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: it's better than nine and a half where you didn't lose,

1261
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: But think about that, you're that close, you can taste

1262
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: the win. Gambling at least gives you a peek into

1263
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: what it's like as life of that fan.

1264
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1265
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: Like, if you're not a Dolphins fan, you were that

1266
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: fan of whatever team I bet people had. Oh that's right,

1267
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: sports ie, Like who.

1268
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: Do I metting on this week?

1269
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: So you were you were a diehard Dolphins fan for

1270
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: the twenty season. That's right, because he had cash on

1271
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: him and Tua just cannot stay upright. So I'm halfway

1272
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: with you. If you process information, that is a huge deal,

1273
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: huge deal. But if you can't stay up right, that's

1274
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: a huge deal.

1275
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: Also.

1276
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 3: Has Bryce I might be off base. Has Bryce had

1277
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: injury issues? I want to say no. He had a

1278
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 3: little bit of the shoulder right last year.

1279
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was it. That was the only game

1280
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: he missed in college.

1281
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 3: He hasn't had concussion like right two had concussion issues

1282
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 3: in college.

1283
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: Is that is that I'm not sure about.

1284
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: I know he had the hip injury in I don't

1285
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: know if it was concussion. Okay, that's maybe, but I'm

1286
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: not sure if it was or not. Certainly in the

1287
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: NFL it has been.

1288
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 3: Because a lot of times the injury stuff tracks. And

1289
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: for example, the big one in this draft is Dalton Kincaid,

1290
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 3: the tight end from Utah, like he had a back

1291
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Speaker 3: injury and.

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: They're worried that it's a little bit degenerative.

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01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 3: And that's why Michael Mayer is now becoming the top

1294
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 3: tight end and and you know, Notre Dame, I mean, goodness, Grace,

1295
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: Michael Mayers. There's the top tight end draft. He's basically

1296
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 3: the second coming of Tony Gonzalez. But Dalton can Ca

1297
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 3: is kind of like a Kyle Pitts, you know, split

1298
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: end kind of tight end. But he's dropping a little

1299
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: bit in the first round because of the injuries because

1300
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 3: it's it's degenerative and it's it's recurring. Maybe that was

1301
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 3: an issue with two of that we just didn't look at.

1302
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 3: And and I don't know the two here because if

1303
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 3: he starts and now you got Tom Brady breathing down to.

1304
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: His I know it ends for it's ridiculous.

1305
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: But it's tough. The dude can't get a break man

1306
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: good yea too.

1307
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: I hope that Bryce Young obviously is healthy in the NFL,

1308
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: and he might be a lot healthier than Tua has been.

1309
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: But it's got to be a concern where Tua just

1310
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: turned twenty five in March. Yeah, Jared, he's twenty five

1311
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: and he was considering retirement, you know what I mean?

1312
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: Like, I wish I could retire twenty five. Man.

1313
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: I think what it comes down to in the NFL,

1314
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: think about this, it's how quickly you process and how

1315
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 2: much your teammates can help you process. Right, Like, if

1316
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: you think about to a look at what he has

1317
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: around He's got Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. Look At

1318
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: at Sam Darnold, what he didn't have around him with

1319
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: the Jets, you know that matters. Look at Justin Fields

1320
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: what he doesn't have around him with the Bears. Really,

1321
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: the only dude that's really putting up numbers with the

1322
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: you know, somewhat so so group around him, He's got

1323
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey, but he doesn't have great right wide receivers

1324
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: is Mahomes. There aren't many guys putting up numbers with

1325
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: a glaring lack of talent around them. The scary thing

1326
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: is even Tua has that talent and he's still taking

1327
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 2: some hits.

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01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I don't know. You gotta

1330
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: process quickly to give yourself a chance to remain upright.

1331
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: Your teammates have a hand in that, but even that

1332
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: doesn't guarantee that you can stay up right. That's life

1333
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

1334
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: It's great.

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01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 3: I love the sports so much because there's so many

1336
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 3: conversations about it. But the way that it's being played

1337
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 3: now and the quarterback position and how much it's protected now,

1338
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 3: the brains matters a little bit more than the oh man,

1339
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 3: And I know that it's crazy because it's the most

1340
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: macho sport of them, I know it.

1341
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: It used to be hey what do you bench? Now

1342
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: it's hey, what's your S two?

1343
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 3: I mean, eventually the quarterbacks won't even run the forty

1344
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 3: like as honestly, who cares?

1345
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: Well?

1346
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: You know a guy who would I swear, would have

1347
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: a high hot S two score, Yes, at least in

1348
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 2: the ninetieth percent. Tile That would be Isaac Loewenkron who's

1349
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: got the latest? What's going on?

1350
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: I low?

1351
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 7: It reminds me of a scam I attempted to pull

1352
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 7: when I was in high school. There was an episode

1353
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 7: of that great show of a certain generation, Saved by

1354
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 7: the Bell.

1355
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: Great show where it's standing show.

1356
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 7: Where Zach Morris, the lead character, got a quote fifteen

1357
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 7: o two on the SAT.

1358
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: So back in the day, is that a sixteen hundred?

1359
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 7: We had PSATs in our school. I never took mine,

1360
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 7: but people kept asking me what I got on my psat,

1361
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 7: So I said, channeling Zach Morris, I got a fifteen

1362
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 7: o two, only to learn that fifteen o two is

1363
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 7: not a possible score or PSATs?

1364
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: By the way, was what was Jesse's Spano taking? Was

1365
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: it adderall so she could study to get into Stanford?

1366
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 7: Caffeine pills?

1367
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: Caffeine pills?

1368
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 7: You know what you guys, I'm so excited about.

1369
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: The lay side. Scared.

1370
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that like it was yesterday.

1371
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 7: If I'm the Minnesota Timberwolves, I'm so scared.

1372
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what.

1373
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 7: I feel sorry for kids these days who are unable

1374
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 7: to grow up with such memorable content as we did

1375
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 7: with Saved by the Bell Man In the nineteen nineties.

1376
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 7: But indeed fans of the Minnesota Timberwolves are so scared

1377
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 7: Nikola jokicch hit them with another triple devil last night

1378
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 7: in Game three, Denver wins one twenty to one eleven.

1379
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 7: Denver leaves the series three games to none. The New

1380
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 7: York Knicks defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers ninety nine to seventy

1381
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 7: nine for a two games to one lead. The cavaliers

1382
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 7: seventy nine points were the fewest scored by an NBA

1383
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 7: team all season, and if mister Belding was talking to

1384
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 7: the Cavaliers after the game, he would have said, Hey, hey, hey,

1385
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 7: what is going on here? Eddieway Trey Young scored thirty

1386
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 7: two as the Atlanta Hawks defeated the Boston Celtics one

1387
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 7: thirty to one. Twenty two and Stanley Cup playoff Game

1388
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 7: threes on Friday night, in a rivalry perhaps as bitter

1389
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 7: as the one between Bayside and Valley, Trevor Moore scored

1390
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 7: the game winning goal in overtime as his LA Kings

1391
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 7: defeated the Edmonton Oilers three to two. The Kings lead

1392
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 7: the series two games to one. The Minnesota Wild of

1393
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 7: five to one victory of the Dallas Stars. Minnesota leads

1394
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 7: the series two games to one. In Major League Baseball,

1395
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 7: Friday Night, the Mets Pete Alonso became the first in

1396
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 7: the Majors to ten home runs as his New York

1397
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 7: Mets defeat to the Giants in San Francisco seven to nothing.

1398
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 7: No word yet. If the Mets went to the Max

1399
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 7: to celebrate their victory and the Los Angeles Angels shut

1400
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 7: out the Kansas City Royals two to nothing, show Hey

1401
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 7: Otani eleven strikeouts and seven scoreless innings, allowing just two hits.

1402
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 7: Otani improved his record to three and oh with a

1403
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 7: zero point six four Eera and Zach Gallina the Arizona

1404
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 7: Diamondbacks had the exact same pitching line eleven strikeouts and

1405
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 7: seven innings of scoreless ball, allowing just two hits as

1406
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 7: Arizona defeat of the Padres nine to nothing. Gallon has

1407
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 7: a scoreless streak of twenty one and two thirds consecutive innings.

1408
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 7: With numbers like that, maybe he can get into Stansbury,

1409
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 7: the Harvard of the West.

1410
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Thank you very nicely done. Now,

1411
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 2: oh man, here's the question.

1412
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: Was Zach Morris the lead character or was it really Screech? Right?

1413
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no Zach, it was Zach Arris.

1414
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: Like he stole the sh show.

1415
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: Like Screech was good, but he was definitely a supporting.

1416
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: I guess I just relate more to the nerd even though.

1417
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 7: You know what though, I think it was like I

1418
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 7: think it was like that with Family Matters because rkle

1419
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 7: was absolutely and then he wound up stealing this.

1420
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah the point, yeah, television to very good Screech, But man,

1421
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: that was a who's who's supporting cat?

1422
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: Really?

1423
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: You know, got Kelly Kapowski and yeah, Jesse Spano and

1424
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: uh her real name is Lark, right, Lisa Turtle. Yeah,

1425
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: Lisa Turtle. That's right. I always remember the intro and

1426
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: it was like Lark. I'm like that's a different name

1427
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: right there. Yeah, shout out to her. Very good.

1428
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 3: Diamond and Mary Lopez are still doing TV today. He

1429
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,879
Speaker 3: does like the extra shows, right Extra?

1430
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, those entertainment shows. I don't know.

1431
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, very good. Yeah, big personality on Premiere

1432
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: as well. I was saming memory Lane. Yeah. You know,

1433
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot to talk about in terms of the

1434
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 2: NFL draft. I want to just throw this quick, quick

1435
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: nugget out at you, Jared, is you look at the

1436
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: Houston Texans, can't wait to see what they do at

1437
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: number two. Could go in a lot of different directions. Also,

1438
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks. So the reports now the Seahawks, they're

1439
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: considering Anthony Richardson, the Florida quarterback, also considering Jalen Carter,

1440
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 2: the Georgia defensive tackle. And I bring this up because

1441
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 2: that's what's so interesting to me. You'll hear this quite

1442
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 2: a bit on sports shows. It's like, it's really hard

1443
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: to compare a second baseman to a left fielder, or

1444
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 2: it's hard to compare a quarterback to a defensive tackle.

1445
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: And while that might be true, it's called the draft. Okay,

1446
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: that's what you're comparing. Every time you're making a selection.

1447
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: You know, are we going with the quarterback in Anthony Richardson?

1448
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 2: Are we going with the defensive tackle and Jalen Carter.

1449
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: So it always cracks me up when someone's like it's

1450
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: really hard to compare those It's like, you wouldn't be

1451
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: an NFL GM. That's all they do is compare those

1452
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: those positions exactly.

1453
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 3: And mister Carter, Jalen is obviously a hot button topic

1454
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: pre draft and anytime you get the off the field

1455
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 3: issues that kind of take over the conversation. It's it's

1456
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 3: hard because I think certain teams because and the thing

1457
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 3: from a draft. First of all, we've discussed this before.

1458
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: I mean, the draft is probably my favorite event to bet.

1459
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 3: It's the most winnable event every year. You're not worried

1460
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 3: about an eighteen year old kid making a free throw

1461
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 3: in the final second you lose your bet, or you know,

1462
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: some umpire calling strike three for a ball that's eight

1463
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: feet outside the zone and then you lose your over

1464
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 3: bet because there's a guy at third and one out

1465
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: and you need to sack Fly Togain. I like that

1466
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 3: randomness does not occur in the NFL Draft. It is

1467
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 3: informationally based. We have good sources. The people who are

1468
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 3: well sourced have a really good track record of getting

1469
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 3: this stuff right, and we make our bets accordingly. But

1470
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 3: Jalen Carter is one of those mysteries. Because we are

1471
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: not physically in the room with the teams when they're

1472
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 3: interviewing him, we don't know Jalen's side of the story.

1473
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 3: He hasn't really come out and talked about it. A

1474
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 3: whole lot, and he probably won't. He doesn't owe us

1475
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 3: an explanation. He owes the teams that are going to

1476
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 3: be paying him millions of dollars in explanation. We're not

1477
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 3: in that group, so we have to kind of make

1478
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 3: our own decisions of how we feel Jalen Carter's off

1479
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 3: the field issues are going to impact what team he

1480
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 3: gets drafted by.

1481
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: And here's how we do that.

1482
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 3: Well, who do the Seattle Seahawks have as their head

1483
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 3: coach Pete Carroll? Players coach very much in tune with

1484
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: the locker room. The guys love him. Choose the gum,

1485
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 3: all that good stuff. Good fit in Seattle. I would

1486
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 3: say a defense that Clint Hurt defensive coordinator got off

1487
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 3: to a good start, a lot of young rookies on

1488
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: that Seattle defense, a lot of good secondary but not

1489
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 3: a lot of shit.

1490
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: They crushed it in the draft last year. Hit a

1491
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: grand slam one percent.

1492
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: I think that's the key here. I could see Jalen

1493
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 3: Carter at five to Seattle. I think that's a really

1494
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 3: good fit. I really do.

1495
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: All of the variables make sense to me.

1496
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: Could be could be, hey, it is Jared Smith FSR

1497
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: betting analyst. I'm Brian No. Coming up next, I've got

1498
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 2: a hard hitting NFL question for you, which teams have

1499
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: no chance of enjoying major success? We'll do that coming up.

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Speaker 2: dot Com. All right, Jared, I wanted to throw something

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Speaker 2: at you here where you do that's good certain things.

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Speaker 3: Certainly that's sharp objects, but yeah, so equshy ones that

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01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: I can respond to.

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Speaker 2: Maybe at the craps table, throwing like a six or

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: eight at yous, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Love that, love those.

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01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: There was a promotion before the Super Bowl a couple

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01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,919
Speaker 2: of months ago where you could win Super Bowl tickets

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01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 2: for three straight years. I don't know why that popped

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01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: into my head this week, but I thought, as we're

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01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 2: inching closer and closer to the NFL Draft less than

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01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 2: a week away, if you are to look at right now,

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01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: the teams across the NFL, thirty two of them. How

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01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 2: many of the teams would you say have no chance

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Speaker 2: of winning a Super Bowl over the.

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Speaker 1: Next three years? Right?

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Speaker 2: You think about that promotion, I'm like, how many teams

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01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 2: are just they have no shot? Now think about this.

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01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: If you're wrong, you lose every cent to your name. Like,

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01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 2: we've got to put something on it. So when you're

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01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: saying there's no chance, you're literally saying I'm betting everything

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01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: I own that this team doesn't win a Super Bowl?

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 2: How how many teams would you be willing to put

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Speaker 2: that on I have?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Oh, that's really funny, I

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01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: have won. The first one that came to my mind

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Speaker 1: was the Minnesota Vikings.

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01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,520
Speaker 2: Really yeah, you would go Vikes?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it, it's about the organizational structure. I

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01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 3: think three years is not a long time in NFL years,

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 3: Like it's it's barely a draft cycle because the rookie

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01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 3: contracts in the first round are five.

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Speaker 1: Years, So three years is win.

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Speaker 3: Now if I'm a three year team and Kirk Cousins

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01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 3: is going to be the quarterback for another three years

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Speaker 3: of Minnesota, right, Yeah, that's a.

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Speaker 2: No, maybe I don't know. This might be his last

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01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: year there.

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01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 3: I don't know either because I don't know what's going

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01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,480
Speaker 3: on inside of their heads. But I know his contract

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01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 3: is three at least three years longer now I know.

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01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's outs, and you know the ins and

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01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: outs of the contracts in the NFL summer guaranteed, some

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01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 3: are not. You have an out after or this year whatever.

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Speaker 3: I don't know Kirk's deal off the top of my head,

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01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 3: but if he's the guy for the next three years,

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01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 3: they're not winning a super Bowl with Kirk Cousins as

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01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 3: they're starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's just how I feel.

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Speaker 3: I think the rest of the NFC North is kind

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01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 3: of in the same boat, right It's a very it's

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01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 3: a it's a it's a division that I don't think

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Speaker 3: has a ton of quarterback upside right now. I don't

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Speaker 3: think Justin Fields is a super Bowl winning quarterback. I

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01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 3: certainly don't think Jordan Love is and Jared Goff, maybe

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01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 3: i'd be honest, Jared Goff might be the best of

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01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 3: the bunch. He's at least been to a Super Bowl,

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01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 3: So I think that's an interesting debate. I think in

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Speaker 3: the AFC East.

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Speaker 1: Oh. I don't want to say it, but man, my

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Speaker 1: Jets are just I think the Patriots, Yeah, they're on

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Speaker 1: the list too.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback. The first thing you look at is the quarterback.

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01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 3: Do you see this quarterback holding the Lombardi Trophy and

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01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 3: holding it up in the air and shaking Roger Goodell's hand.

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Speaker 3: I don't see it with the Patriots right now. I

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01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: don't see it with the Jets right now. But again,

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Speaker 3: Exon's or the Brown there's a lot of teams, you know.

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Speaker 2: The old Vince McMahon, no chance. We're saying no chance.

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01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: And think about this Jared too. We know about quick

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01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,440
Speaker 2: turnarounds in the NFL. If you think about the Bengals,

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01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: pretty good example where fantastic Burrows rookie season, he gets

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01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 2: hurt for eleven and one. The next year they're on

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: the doorstep of winning a champion fourth quarter, they were

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Speaker 2: right there. So it can happen pretty quickly. Think about

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Speaker 2: your Jets. I mean, as is no chance, but they

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Speaker 2: get Aaron Rodgers. They got a better chance. There's no

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Speaker 2: doubt that better chance.

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Speaker 3: Yes, better chance. I don't want to say no chance

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Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers. There's always a chance when you have

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. I don't think he is going to be

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01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 3: this Oh Jesus is.

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Speaker 1: In the locker room now, everything's great.

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Speaker 3: Like I think there's a lot of problems in the Jets'

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01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 3: locker room if Aaron Rodgers comes to town, and it's

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01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 3: going to be an interesting debate.

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01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 2: If I think the Texans are on the lists in

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01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: three years, no chance to win, to win it all,

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01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: no chance, no chance in three years. Colts as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a big indie guy, you know you know

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01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: that market pretty well. I put the Colts on that list.

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01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: Steelers, Steelers, I'd say no chance. Hmmm, I don't think

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Speaker 2: that they send quickly?

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Speaker 1: Get what about the Bucks? Now? With no Brady, no chance? Absolutely,

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01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,520
Speaker 1: everybody at j NFC South.

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Speaker 2: All right, come it up next. It's a mock draft

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Speaker 2: that's unconventional, But is it crazy accurate?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody? Everybody? I hope you're having a

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Speaker 2: great Saturday. I'm just giddy, giddy about uh Lebron facing

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Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks a little bit later today. So my trip

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Speaker 2: over the word here there. But oh we've got we've

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Speaker 2: got an unconventional mock draft to get to. Is it

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Speaker 2: How about the Maurice Jones Drew mock draft. Former NFL

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Speaker 2: running back now working with NFL Network over there, and

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01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 2: I love how he prefaces this Jared, He wrote, we

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Speaker 2: are one week away from the twenty twenty three NFL Draft.

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01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: It's the perfect time to reveal my one and only

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01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: mock draft of the year. I'm sure my projection of

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: the first round will raise some eyebrows, so I won't

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01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: hold you up any longer. Number one pick, according to MJD,

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01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: Carolina takes Anthony Richardson. I know, I know, top prospect

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01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: Bryce Young canceled his remaining pre draft visits on Monday,

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01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 2: but he's like, you know what, I don't have any

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01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,879
Speaker 2: insight information, but oh my god, you've got Anthony Richardson

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01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 2: might remind Panthers fans of a former MVP in Cam Newton,

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01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: and then had a quote from Frank Reich waxing poetic

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01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: about Anthony Richardson last monk. What do you think about

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01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 2: that there, Jared?

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Speaker 3: I think Marius Jones Drew could do a lot of

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01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 3: good if he took a look at the gambling markets

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01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 3: that don't get this stuff wrong. At this stage of

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01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 3: the of the proceedings. Oh my goodness, Bryce Young so

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01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: full again. Gambling transparency is important. I'm always transparent about

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01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 3: what I bet on with with you, find folk, because

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01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: it's about trusts and love and respect. The second Bryce

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01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 3: Young canceled his workouts or his meetings last week, he

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01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 3: was minus four hundred to be drafted first overall before

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01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: he canceled the meetings. Minus four hundred implies an eighty

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01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 3: percent probability that something is going to occur. That's what

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01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,879
Speaker 3: minus four hundred means. At the moment that he canceled

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01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 3: his meetings, in my eyes, it was ninety nine point

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01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 3: nine percent certainty for me personally that he was gonna

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Speaker 3: be taken first overall. So I went to go bet

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01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 3: to minus four hundred. Ain't gonna get rich doing it.

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01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 3: Bet one thousand dollars to win two fifty. Again, not

1648
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 3: gonna get rich doing it. But it's a good bet

1649
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 3: to make because once that happened, and again the draft,

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01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 3: reading the draft markets, betting on the draft, trying to

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01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: predict who's gonna go first, second, third, it's all about

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01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: processing information. Well, when he cancels his meetings with the

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01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 3: other teams, to me, that is the most obvious piece

1654
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 3: of information that says, yeah, I'm good. I don't really

1655
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 3: need to go anywhere else or see anything else. I

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01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 3: know exactly how this process is going to play out.

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01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 3: Whether he says that publicly or not, you have to

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01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 3: just read the tea leads.

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Speaker 2: By the way, where is he at right now, like

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Speaker 2: minus minus fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Hundred, It's like it's like a ninety nine percent.

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01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 3: Now. I wouldn't bet it now, no, because the odds

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01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: I think are correct now. But my point is there's

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Speaker 3: a reason why the casinos a few miles away from

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01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 3: me here in Las Vegas are bright, shiny and open

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven. They don't get this stuff wrong.

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01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 3: When they put up a minus fifteen hundred prop which

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01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 3: is telling you that a guy's gonna get taken first

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01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 3: about ninety five percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: Well, i'll just give you the top three according to

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01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: Maurice Jones Drew. If I want to hear the rest

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01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 2: of it, you might turn colors over. Here is Anthony

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01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 2: Richardson going first overall to Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Please tell me he has Bryce Young going second.

1675
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: He does not. He's got CJ. Stroud going to host Texans.

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01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 2: The Colts trade up from four to three to get

1677
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Speaker 2: Bryce Young.

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Speaker 3: You can't see me right now because this is radio.

1679
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 3: But I am literally head down on my desk, just

1680
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:49,919
Speaker 3: in in stitches.

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01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: I didn't hear about this mock draft. I'm glad I

1683
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 3: didn't because I would have problem about it. Now I

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01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 3: writt listen, Maurice Jones Drew. Can we get him on

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01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 3: the show so I can educate him on on like

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01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 3: what the the odds mean in the NFL dre like

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01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 3: what because it's there everywhere.

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01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: Now I know he probably has the app on his phone.

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01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: Everyone has the app on their phone.

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01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 3: You scroll to the bet MGM app and you look

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01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 3: up number one overall pick and.

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01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: It's blatantly obvious.

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01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 3: It says Bryce Young's minus two thousand now to go

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 3: first overall.

1695
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: It's like a lock. It's a certainty.

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01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 3: It's almost as certain as me waking up in the morning,

1697
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 3: having a cup of coffee and taking Jackpot out.

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01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 1: For a walk.

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01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: It would take an asteroid striking the earth for those

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01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 3: events not to occur.

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01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: Every single morning.

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01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 3: It would take some act of God at this point

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01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: for Bryce Young not to be the first overall pick.

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Speaker 1: So, Maurice Bud, I loved watching you play for the Jags.

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01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: You're a fantastic place.

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01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure you can evaluate talent and the running back

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01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 3: position and the other players on the field to an

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Speaker 3: elite level that I can't even dream of because I

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01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 3: never played in the NFL. But the one thing that

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01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,799
Speaker 3: I can do is read a market, and the market

1711
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 3: to me is telling almost one hundred percent certainty that

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young's being taken first overall.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing that it guess for me, Yeah,

1714
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be Bryce Young number one. I don't

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01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: agree with the top three. But here's the way I

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01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:30,560
Speaker 2: would look at it is where is the major curveball.

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01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 2: It happens almost every year, And that's what's driving me

1718
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 2: crazy is I think you get used to a certain

1719
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 2: order when you're looking at all these mock drafts and

1720
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, it just starts to make sense, and

1721
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: then something that's greatly different. You're like, who is this

1722
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: freaking guy over here?

1723
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 1: Right?

1724
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 2: Like outside of if you put Bryce Young number one,

1725
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: you could put some things out there that are unconventional

1726
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: that might get a lot of brushback that come draft night,

1727
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: it's possible it does go down that way. And I'm

1728
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 2: saying something that isn't completely outlandish. You start Bryce Young

1729
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: number one, if you put Will Anderson number two, you

1730
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 2: put Tyree Wilson number two.

1731
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems kind of fanatical there. Yeah, I think that.

1732
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 3: I think you just nailed it, Brian, I think Tyrie.

1733
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 3: So I have Bryce Young one, I have Will Anderson

1734
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 3: under three and a half, I have Will Levis under

1735
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 3: four and a half.

1736
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: I have Will Levis being drafted before c J. Stroud.

1737
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: Those are the big wagers that I have.

1738
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1739
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 3: But so the so the way that I see it

1740
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 3: playing out is Bryce Young, Will Anderson, and Levis. Those

1741
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 3: three guys are going in the top three. That's how

1742
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 3: I see this draft playing out. The guy that my friends,

1743
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 3: my gambling connections in the in the draft space keep

1744
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: obsessing over is Tyree Wilson. Is he going to ruin

1745
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,919
Speaker 3: our trifecta. That's the thing Young and Levis and Anderson,

1746
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 3: and yeah, it's an interesting because it is you.

1747
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 2: See all these quarterbacks. You'll see some mock drafts with

1748
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks in the top four picks.

1749
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen.

1750
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's gonna happen either. But it's like,

1751
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 2: how low did those quarterbacks go? If they're not in

1752
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: the top four. There's somebody wild.

1753
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 3: Show for Stroud or Richardson if they drop out of

1754
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 3: the top ten. I think, like I could see a rate.

1755
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 3: So another bet that I made that it's a flyer bet.

1756
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 3: It's an eight to one. It's it's a it's a

1757
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 3: it's a you know, a long shot is the Ravens

1758
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 3: to draft a quarterback with their first selection. Yeah, and

1759
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 3: I'm banking on a trade for Lamar Jackson or not

1760
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 3: even a trade, just the Ravens saying, listen, this.

1761
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna work past this year.

1762
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 3: We're gonna move on and they need their quarterback in

1763
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 3: the future and a guy like Stroud or Richardson is

1764
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 3: there in the teens and they go up and they

1765
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 3: grab them. I could see that being the case. I

1766
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 3: agree with you, though. I think this draft the reason

1767
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 3: why it's so unique and compared to other drafts, there

1768
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 3: are three first round quarterbacks available. Every team I feel

1769
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 3: like has a different opinion on those. Now, Bryce Jong

1770
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeh kicking him out of the equation because he's going

1771
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 3: one that's set, it's one hundred percent lock certainty. I'll,

1772
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 3: you know, stake my reputation on that. The other three quarterbacks,

1773
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,759
Speaker 3: I feel like all three teams or all three guys

1774
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 3: probably there's differing opinions throughout the league on all three.

1775
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.

1776
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: Obvious is the second one, but I'm not one hundred

1777
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 3: percent on that. I'm probably seventy five percent on that.

1778
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 3: The other two it could be out in Richardson.

1779
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 2: Who knows it could be, because that's the thing with

1780
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 2: the draft is sometimes betting on those long shots. Yeah,

1781
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 2: you cause, think about this. This is nothing but a

1782
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 2: gigantic game of Texas hold them on percent. So if

1783
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 2: you're sitting next to the Texans at the table, they're

1784
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: not gonna let on that they have Ace King. You know,

1785
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 2: they might whisper to Adam Schefter, who's going to report

1786
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 2: it out there that they've got I don't know they've

1787
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 2: got Texas, Dolly, they've got ten two, you know what

1788
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 2: I mean, Like they're gonna put out misinformation. So a

1789
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff that you hear and you looked

1790
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 2: at the Texans and you said something about big slick

1791
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Ace King and like their left eyebrow twitched, and you're like,

1792
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 2: uh oh, that might be a tell they got Some

1793
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 2: of this stuff is just not accurate. And so if

1794
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 2: you go back to last year's draft, it's a good

1795
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 2: way to do it. A lot of people had multiple

1796
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the first round. What turned out to be

1797
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 2: there was one guy, Kenny Pickett. Go back to Maurice

1798
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 2: Jones Drew. There was a link for last year's mock

1799
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 2: draft Jared and this isn't to you know, talk trash

1800
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 2: about MJD. There were a lot of people who had

1801
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 2: multiple quarterbacks in the first round. Think about this, Kenny Pickett,

1802
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 2: he had him going sixth overall to Carolina and he

1803
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 2: had Malik Willis going ninth overall to the Seahawks. Look

1804
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 2: bad he went in the third round. But there were

1805
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 2: a lot of people that thought that. And where I

1806
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: would take it is a couple of ways to go.

1807
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 2: Where are the curve balls in this year's draft, there

1808
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 2: will be. And also think of the Seahawks, what if

1809
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 2: they went with Malik Willis last season. Now we're talking

1810
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 2: about them after Gino Smith played well, maybe drafting Anthony Richardson.

1811
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 2: Think if they drafted Malik Willis last season, And so

1812
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 2: I would apply it more so to this year's NFL draft.

1813
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 2: I get it, you're a team, you need a quarterback.

1814
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 2: You gotta take a chance. But it's the downside of

1815
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 2: missing on the wrong guy that can absolutely screw you

1816
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 2: in the long run. Where we all get that, But

1817
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 2: to really put it in terms, think of where Seattle

1818
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 2: is and they're on the upward trajectory. If they took

1819
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Malik Willis, they'd be where the Titans are right now.

1820
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 2: And that's why you see a lot of these mock

1821
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 2: drafts with the Titans moving up to draft a QB.

1822
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 3: And that's why these teams are taking it out of

1823
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 3: the decision. Like what you just said is exactly why

1824
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 3: I think a team would be more inclined to use

1825
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 3: analytics and the S two.

1826
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Score to creat a quarterback. There you go.

1827
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 3: It takes the guesswork out of it. And does that

1828
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 3: mean you're going to be right one hundred percent of

1829
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 3: the time, of course not. But let's be honest, there's

1830
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 3: been a lot of teams that have been wrong a

1831
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 3: lot in prior drafts, not using the S two score.

1832
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 3: So to say, well, they could be wrong if they

1833
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 3: use this, well, yeah, of course you could be wrongdoing anything.

1834
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 3: But my point being, and this is why professional betters

1835
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 3: use ratings to make their lines. It takes the guesswork

1836
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 3: out of it. This is where I have this team

1837
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:35,560
Speaker 3: rated based off of my hours and years of creating

1838
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 3: these systems. And if the line is this, it's wrong,

1839
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to bet it. I don't care what the

1840
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 3: market says. I don't care what Joe Schmoel on TV says.

1841
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 3: I don't care about the narrative this and this narrative

1842
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 3: and that this is what my number is, and I

1843
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 3: am going to bet it.

1844
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 1: Here.

1845
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 3: Now, these teams have a way to quantify a quarterback's

1846
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 3: ability to play well at the end fell level in

1847
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 3: terms of their cerebral approach. Well, it takes the guesswork

1848
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 3: out of it. This scout in this corner of the

1849
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 3: universe says this guy's good, then this scout on the

1850
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 3: other side says this guy's good.

1851
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Get rid of all that.

1852
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 3: What does the S two score say, Oh, okay, maybe

1853
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 3: he can he can compute in the NFL. So that's

1854
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 3: why I think this evaluating talent it's really hard to do.

1855
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 3: It's hard to do it at the level that we

1856
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 3: do it at when it comes to, you know, evaluating

1857
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 3: if someone's good on the air or not right or

1858
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 3: or in the NFL level when trying to figure out

1859
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 3: if someone can throw football and digest an offense and

1860
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 3: figure out a way to move, you know, matriculate.

1861
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 1: The ball down the field. It is not one hundred percent.

1862
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 3: It is not an exact science, but we now have

1863
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 3: a way to at least quantify it in some capacity.

1864
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: So what happened with Malique?

1865
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know if this was I don't know

1866
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 3: if the score was around last year, but I'd be

1867
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 3: curious what the guys in prior drafts recently did that

1868
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 3: kind of fell off the map a little bit. Like

1869
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 3: we know Joe Burrow score, we NOMA home score. These

1870
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 3: are not public. Only certain guys have been made public

1871
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:01,919
Speaker 3: with this information.

1872
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: But man, oh.

1873
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 3: Man, this is becoming a very fascinating topic of conversation

1874
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 3: because these four quarterbacks are going to be judged all

1875
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 3: against each other, just like every quarterback is in their

1876
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 3: draft class.

1877
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: And Bryce Young might not be the best of the

1878
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 1: bunch when it's all said and done. Yeah he will be.

1879
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 1: I think he will be, but I don't know that

1880
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 1: for certain.

1881
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 2: I think that what's interesting about this quarterback class and

1882
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 2: a lot of others is you can make a smart

1883
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 2: argument for and against all these guys. Yeah, you know

1884
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, that's what's so interesting about it.

1885
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 2: And yeah, the S two score, it matters how quickly

1886
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 2: you process information. Of course at the NFL level playing quarterback,

1887
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 2: that matters a ton. But then how do you figure

1888
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 2: it out with the guy that went to Liberty, you know,

1889
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 2: like what he was surrounded by and who he was

1890
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 2: playing against and how does that translate to the NFL?

1891
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 2: And you could make an argument for that guy, you

1892
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 2: can make an argument against that guy, and you can

1893
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 2: make make smart points on either side. And so that's

1894
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 2: what's fascinating to me. With Will Levis, you could be

1895
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 2: a guy that says, look at the processing. He just

1896
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 2: scored what ninety three percent on the S two if

1897
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 2: that's correct, that's lightning fast, And yeah, he wasn't surrounded

1898
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 2: by great talent, And what if he is at the

1899
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 2: NFL level and he could pan out and you could

1900
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 2: look at that guy and say, look his numbers last year,

1901
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: you know, like he didn't read coverage well, like all

1902
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 2: these negative things. You could make a smart argument on

1903
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:33,959
Speaker 2: both ends. And that's what's that's what's so interesting and maddening.

1904
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 2: If your job is on the line and you're an

1905
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 2: NFL GM and this is what you're paid to do,

1906
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 2: is make the smart call.

1907
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:39,599
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1921
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1922
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1928
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 2: there last year in Vegas.

1929
01:36:58,360 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 1: Me too.

1930
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was here nice. That was the one time

1931
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 2: I've gone to the NFL Draft and I stood in

1932
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 2: the general admission section because I think to see today area,

1933
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 2: it was like thousands of dollars is like two or

1934
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 2: three thousand dollars to be there. So I was just

1935
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 2: standing and baking general admission man. Who it was hot?

1936
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 1: What a fun night. It's in Kansas City this year. Yeah,

1937
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:23,959
Speaker 1: a little different vibe than Vegas.

1938
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 3: So I remember last year I had one of the

1939
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 3: largest wagers I've ever made. So the largest wager I've

1940
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 3: ever made in my entire life was on was on

1941
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 3: Mayweather to beat Connor McGregor.

1942
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1943
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 3: I had five times five thousand dollars. I think it

1944
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 3: was minus two hundred or something. It didn't win that much.

1945
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 3: The second largest wager I've ever had in my life

1946
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 3: was last year at the draft. I had that two

1947
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 3: thousand dollars bet on Derek Stingley to be drafted.

1948
01:37:56,200 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 1: I forget the exact position. It was somewhere in the

1949
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 1: first five pick.

1950
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:05,520
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there you go, plus money.

1951
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 1: No, it was minus money. It was minus money.

1952
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 3: Derek Stingley under eight and a half minus one sixty.

1953
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 1: Five, oh gosh.

1954
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 3: And then I also had a smaller bet he was

1955
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 3: taking third overall I was. I also had a smaller

1956
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 3: bet on him to be the first corner selected, because

1957
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 3: remember it was all about sauce Gardener saus Sure. Well,

1958
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 3: I got some late information that it was really going

1959
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 3: to be Stingley, and and I got that at plus

1960
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 3: two fifty. But my point being, I love laying big,

1961
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 3: juicy bets in the draft because at the time that

1962
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 3: you're betting it, it's again, it's almost one hundred percent certainty.

1963
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: Man. I was going nuts when Stingley was taking third.

1964
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 3: I was running around my room with the Cosmo screaming,

1965
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 3: going crazy.

1966
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 1: It was a It was a fantastic night.

1967
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 2: And I'm glad you won your wager. But the Texans

1968
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 2: didn't win that.

1969
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, they should have taken.

1970
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 2: Sau Gardener right now, who's arguably the best cornerback. Yeah,

1971
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 2: not all together, not just of the rookies, but yeah,

1972
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 2: but it goes back again to what.

1973
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: We were talking about with CJ.

1974
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 3: Stroud and Will Lovis, it doesn't matter what we think,

1975
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 3: like I think the consensus when you watch those two

1976
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 3: guys play the prior year, sauce Gardner and Cincinnati of

1977
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 3: course made that big run with with with Ritter and

1978
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 3: they were, you know, almost going in the collegurable playoff

1979
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and then they got their butts kicked

1980
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 3: and they all ended badly. But when you watched sauce

1981
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 3: Gardner player, like, yeah, that's the best guy and he

1982
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 3: wasn't even the first corner take.

1983
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know. Beauty's in the eye

1984
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 2: of the beholder.

1985
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 1: Yep.

1986
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 2: And there have been some crazy picks over the years.

1987
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 2: There might be some more crazy picks in less than

1988
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 2: a week away. Can't wait for that now, let me

1989
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,719
Speaker 2: throw this out at you, because Doc Rivers, head coach

1990
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 2: of the seventy six ers, he had an interesting take

1991
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 2: because we've seen some pushy shovy type stuff in the

1992
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs, a little kicky to the groiny, you know,

1993
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 2: with Joe LMB if you know, you could go with yeah,

1994
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 2: Draymond Green with the stomp. So Doc Rivers, he says

1995
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 2: the NBA needs to punish the instigators. Also, he says

1996
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 2: we have a problem if retaliators are punished but not

1997
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 2: the instigators. Now I hear him on this, Jared, But

1998
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 2: here's the deal. This is what I find interesting because

1999
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: I always hear the conversation of let's just use Draymond.

2000
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 2: For instance, okay, demanas Sabonis grabs Draymond's leg and then

2001
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 2: Draymond overreacts and stomps on Sibonas Draymond gets ejected, he

2002
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 2: gets suspended for game three. He's got a past and

2003
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 2: that went into it why he got suspended for a game.

2004
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 2: And I hear the argument of, hey, if Sibonis doesn't

2005
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 2: grab Draymond's leg, then Draymond has no reason to retaliate,

2006
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 2: And it's like, that's true, but you could spin it

2007
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 2: the other way. If Draymond doesn't retaliate, that's not even

2008
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 2: a technical foul on some bonus right. Same thing with

2009
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:07,759
Speaker 2: Embiid kicking Nick Claxton. You could say, hey, if Claxton

2010
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 2: doesn't walk over Embiid, he's not gonna kick him. It's like,

2011
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 2: if Embiid doesn't kick him in the junk, that's not

2012
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 2: even a technical foul on Claxton. We adore Alan Iverson

2013
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 2: stepping over to Ron Lu. There's no one that has said, hey,

2014
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:27,480
Speaker 2: that should be a technical file because turn Lu never reacted.

2015
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 2: So I think it's really interesting how you navigate that

2016
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 2: of if the instigator, you know, if there's retaliation, the

2017
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 2: instigator is probably gonna get something, maybe a technical foul,

2018
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 2: maybe you find something. And I think that should be

2019
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 2: the case. But I think you gotta be pretty careful

2020
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 2: about that as well, because if there's no retaliation, the

2021
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 2: instigator is gonna get away scott free. Anyway, It's kind

2022
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:54,759
Speaker 2: of interesting how that goes.

2023
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 3: I think the NBA has a problem with the way

2024
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 3: these rules are structured, and unfortunately the postseason amplifies it

2025
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 3: because this doesn't happen a whole lot during the regular season.

2026
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: Because there's not that much intensity.

2027
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 3: On the floor during sure, yeah yeah, like during the postseason.

2028
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 3: It's palpable how intense these games are, and so you

2029
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 3: get a little more touchy feely, like guys get their

2030
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 3: feelings hurt a lot, a lot faster in the playoffs

2031
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 3: because there's a lot more on the line, and I

2032
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 3: do think we need to have, for example, in.

2033
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 1: The NHL, they let these guys go at it.

2034
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,919
Speaker 3: Like imagine if this was a conversation in the NHL playoffs,

2035
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 3: some guy got kicked and another guy got slapped or punched,

2036
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 3: and now we're talking about getting removed from the game. No,

2037
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 3: you go to the sin bin, you go chill for

2038
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 3: a few minutes, and then you come back in. It's

2039
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 3: called five for fighting for a reason. Right, there's a

2040
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 3: whole band about it. But I think when you look

2041
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:55,759
Speaker 3: at what these teams are, these players matter too much

2042
01:42:56,160 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 3: to the games to have them kicked out for you know,

2043
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 3: I don't want to say minor infractions, because they could

2044
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 3: have got somebody hurt.

2045
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 1: The unbeat stuff.

2046
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 3: He stepped over him and then there was like a weird,

2047
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 3: awkward like leg tanglement, and some guy could have smacked

2048
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 3: his head on the floor. I mean, there could have

2049
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 3: been a major injury there if it went sideways. But

2050
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, those two guys are

2051
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 3: competing at the highest level. They are large men banging

2052
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 3: in the post and going absolutely bananas, and then you're

2053
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:26,600
Speaker 3: kind of you're gonna kick one of them out of

2054
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 3: the game. And I'm glad neither of them got kicked

2055
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 3: out of the game, but we thought at one point

2056
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 3: Mbad might.

2057
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 1: But it's just I think the overall.

2058
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 3: Rules, we need a little more freedom in the postseason

2059
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 3: for some of this stuff to boil over and not

2060
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 3: result in a flagrant too. You're kicked out, like I

2061
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 3: need malice at the palace stuff for them to be

2062
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 3: all right, you're ejected from the game if it doesn't

2063
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 3: elevate to that point in the postseason. No blood, no foul, right,

2064
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 3: Like I it's crazy, but that's in the playoffs. You

2065
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 3: gotta give these guys a little bit of chance to

2066
01:43:58,320 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 3: get their frustrations.

2067
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 2: In largely, I hear you. When Kurt Rambis was closelined,

2068
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't even a technical foul.

2069
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 1: Different world.

2070
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 2: It's complete.

2071
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: And it's not even anymore.

2072
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 2: But but there's something to be said about that where sure,

2073
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think you should be able

2074
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 2: to kick a guy in the junk and not get

2075
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 2: the gate like what Embiid did. I don't know how

2076
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 2: Draymond got suspended. I don't know how Draymond got initially

2077
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:31,560
Speaker 2: ejected and then suspended while Embiid doesn't even get ejectory.

2078
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of consistency. Unfortunately with these rules.

2079
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 3: It's hard, but it is hard the officials.

2080
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 2: I do, yeah, I do think it's harder than we

2081
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 2: make it out to be about exactly how do you

2082
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 2: how do you go about policing this? How do you

2083
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 2: go about dishing out punishments that make sense all across

2084
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 2: the board. It's not the easiest thing to do. I

2085
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 2: don't think that Harden should have got ejected for a move.

2086
01:44:56,840 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 2: He's driving past his defender and you know, arm right

2087
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 2: to the groin and I don't I don't know that

2088
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 2: it was intentional. I mean, you see the offhand swing

2089
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 2: from time to time. They gave him the gate and

2090
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 2: it's like okay, but Embiid doesn't get the gate that

2091
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's it's strange.

2092
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 3: I mean, see what about the NBA officiating has ever

2093
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 3: been consistent though, I mean, let's be honest here, Yeah,

2094
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 3: nothing's ever been consistent.

2095
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 2: I do love this. I love the change from Nick

2096
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 2: Claxton who stepped over and bed. So he went from

2097
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 2: stepping over and bead like yeah what now you know

2098
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 2: to getting kicked and it was like pip down, pipped down.

2099
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 2: He felt like a cut of bricks. He went from

2100
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 2: gangs to like ow awie auie OWI.

2101
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean he's like, it's it's funny.

2102
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 3: I mean they flop, right, these guys flop all the time.

2103
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:54,560
Speaker 3: I really I really struggle, I really really really struggle

2104
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 3: with watching some of these games and just like for example,

2105
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 3: late game, both teams are in the bonus, it's a

2106
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 3: tight game.

2107
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: You get a guy and it happened the other night.

2108
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 3: I think with Steph Curry against the Kings, hard screen,

2109
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 3: Steph comes out to hedge, he does a little hip

2110
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 3: bump against I think it might have been Darren Fox.

2111
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,719
Speaker 3: I forget the exact play bang foul called forty feet

2112
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 3: away from the basket, two free throws for the Kings,

2113
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 3: Like yeah, that stuff just drives me bananas because it

2114
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 3: has no impact really on what the play is supposed

2115
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 3: to be. It was just like one of those and

2116
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 3: this has nothing to do with the the Mbat play.

2117
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:38,759
Speaker 3: But my point is the officiating in the NBA in

2118
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 3: certain games, certain refs won't call that. It was kind

2119
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 3: of incidental and it didn't have a lot of impact

2120
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,639
Speaker 3: on the play. Yeah, but it resulted in two free

2121
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 3: throws and it gave the Kings. I don't want to

2122
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 3: say it gave them the win, but it gave them

2123
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 3: a better chance of winning.

2124
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 2: NOBE well, I think they're they're connected because it shows

2125
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 2: you how difficult it is to remain consistent right where

2126
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, we're asking the officials, hey, in instances,

2127
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 2: don't become a part of the game, like let some

2128
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 2: stuff slide. If it comes to ejecting a player or

2129
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 2: you know that type of thing.

2130
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: It's like, have a long leash.

2131
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 2: But then we're saying, you know that technically has no

2132
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 2: bearing on the play, so let it slide. So as

2133
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 2: an official, you're saying, okay, so have a long leash,

2134
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 2: but yet let it slide, Like how do you want

2135
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 2: me exactly to balance that out? That's why it is.

2136
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 2: It's a lot to ask and a lot of times

2137
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 2: they do get it wrong, but we never give it

2138
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 2: any credit for like, this is a really tough job.

2139
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,799
Speaker 3: Man, really, oh, being ah and being an NBA official

2140
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 3: is a thankless job. Tony brother Actually, they just did

2141
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 3: a poll about the best ones. Tony Brothers won, like

2142
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Speaker 3: the bet they did an anonymous NBA poll, you know, overrated, underrated,

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Speaker 3: best raft.

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Speaker 1: Tony Brothers is the guy that they said that the

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Speaker 1: players like the best of all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, coming up next, a quick shout out and

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Speaker 2: a quick pointing of the finger right now, we give

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Speaker 2: a double thumbs up. All finger gestures right here too.

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Speaker 2: Isaac clohing Crawn with us. He's got the latest, what's

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Speaker 2: going on.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate you guys because usually when people give me

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01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:14,639
Speaker 7: gestures they use only one finger, especially on social media.

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01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:16,759
Speaker 2: We had three games number one, like the foam finger.

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Speaker 3: Way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's what I choose to believe we're number one. Indeed,

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01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 7: we had not one, not two, but three game threes

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01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 7: in the NBA playoffs on Friday night, Niko Lejokic, your

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Speaker 7: triple double as Denver one in Minnesota one twenty to

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Speaker 7: one eleven. So Denver's got a three games to none

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Speaker 7: lead Nicks over the Cavaliers ninety nine seventy nine at

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Speaker 7: the Garden. New York leads the series two games to

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01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 7: one and Atlanta got its first one of the playoffs.

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01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 7: Trey Young scored thirty twos. They best at Boston one

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01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 7: thirty to one twenty two, but the Celtics still lead

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Speaker 7: that series two games to one. In Stanley Cup Playoff

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01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 7: Game threes Friday night, the La Kings and Edmonton Oilers

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01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 7: went to overtime. Here's Hall of Famer Nick Nixon on

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Speaker 7: the Kings Audio Network.

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Speaker 8: Flardi down behind that act, party center store, tubber More

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Speaker 8: quit to and over time.

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01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 7: So the Kings lead that series two games to one.

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01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 7: The Minnesota Wild took a two games to one lead

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01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 7: over Dubtless, beating the Stars five to one. Well in

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Speaker 7: Major League Baseball on Friday night, the Mets Pete Alonso

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01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 7: became the first in the Majors to ten home runs

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Speaker 7: as they beat the Giants in San Francisco seven to nothing.

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Speaker 7: Show Hey Otani in a two to nothing Angels victory

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01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 7: over Kansas City, struck out eleven in seven innings, allowing

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Speaker 7: just two hits so for the season. Otani on the

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01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 7: mound Is three to oh with an ERA of zero

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01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 7: point six four and in the Diamondbacks nine to nothing

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01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 7: went over the Padres. Arizona's Zach Gallon had the exact

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01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 7: same pitching line as Otani eleven strikeouts and seven innings

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Speaker 7: with two hits allowed. Gallon has a scoreless inning streak

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Speaker 7: of twenty one and two thirds consecutive innings. Fellas all yours, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You very much, I Loo. It's Fox Sports Saturday right

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. Two wick NBA playoff hitters

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Speaker 2: for you, two quick hitters for you, Jared Smith do

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01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 2: so one. We got to point the finger at the

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01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 2: Minnesota Timberwolves. Think of this Rudy go Bear trade. They

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Speaker 2: traded five players and five picks to get Rudy Go Bear,

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Speaker 2: and they're down three nothing against the Nuggets. They might

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Speaker 2: get swept here. And they traded all that. They traded

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Speaker 2: four first round picks and a pick swap. Also Malik Beasley,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Beverley, Walker Kessler, who's been a good player for them,

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01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 2: right he was a very good rookie for the Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 2: They traded all that for Rudy Gober and they're down

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Speaker 2: three to nothing in this series against Denver.

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Speaker 3: So I was critical of Denver, and I again transparency.

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01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 3: I always admit when i'm I try to admit when

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Speaker 3: I'm wrong. It's a lot harder to do wellthough. My

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01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 3: therapist is saying, say this more, you'll feel better. I

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01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 3: I was wrong, you were right. So anyone who came

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01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 3: at me for my Denver Nuggets take, I thought they

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01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 3: that the Timberwolves were very live in this series.

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01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was completely wrong.

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01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,560
Speaker 3: And I think the reason that I wasn't seeing the

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01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 3: market clearly is because I just don't know how to

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Speaker 3: grade how good this Nuggets team is. With Jokic kind

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01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 3: of he's kind of like the third best player on

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01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 3: the team in the playoffs, like it's Murray and it's

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01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,560
Speaker 3: and it's I think it's Gordon and and MPJ that

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01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:23,640
Speaker 3: are kind of taking more of a front seat with

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01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 3: the scoring load, and Yokic is just like, yeah, it's cool,

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01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 3: I'll just get fifteen assists a game and just let

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01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 3: you guys do all the work. Like he's he's the

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01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 3: he's the two time MVP, and he's just like, yeah,

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01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 3: here you go, Jamal, just go ahead take all the shots.

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01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 2: But you know, it's so weird. There's a there's some

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01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 2: truth to that. There's a great quote from the Nuggets

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01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 2: head coach Mike Maloney, and he said, Jokic never fights

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01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 2: the game, and so it kind of goes to what

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01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 2: you're saying is like, you want him to be a

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01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 2: bit more assertive and just score, dude, like you're the

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01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 2: back to back MVP. Yeah, but that's just not what

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01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 2: he does. It's a little bit like Lebron. He's like,

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01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 2: I'm finding the open teammate. That's what I've always done when.

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01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:10,720
Speaker 3: He scores, right, Like Jokic is taking He took thirteen

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01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 3: shots in the game, which is unbelievable, but.

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Speaker 1: That both took more shots than him.

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01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, I get it, but that's that's also not

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01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 2: how he is. He's more of a distributor. He'll find

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01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 2: his spots to score. But it's a lot like Lebron

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01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 2: where we want Lebron to be Jordan. He's like, yeah,

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01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm more like magic.

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01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Jokic playing that style make them a better

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01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 3: or worse candidate to win the NBA title.

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01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 1: What they need to shoot thirty times a game? Yeah,

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01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:42,320
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer.

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Speaker 2: It's such a weasel answer. It's it's game by game,

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01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 2: it really is. There are games where that's exactly what

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01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 2: they need, is him being a blend of the best

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01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 2: passing man ever game come to him. Yeah, like a

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01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 2: combo bladder, and he's scoring as well. There are other

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01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 2: games where it's like, hey, less of the distributing combo bladder,

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01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 2: head down, just go to work and score thirty five.

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01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 1: That's what we need.

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01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, sometimes it works for him, sometimes it works

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Speaker 2: against him. Quick shout out though, Tom Thhibodeaux with the

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Speaker 2: New York Knicks. Okay, think about this. The Knicks just

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01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 2: held the Calves to seventy nine points last night. That's

2252
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 2: the lowest point total of any team all season long,

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01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,719
Speaker 2: seventy nine points. This is the year of our Lord

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01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. To hold anybody that seventy nine points

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Speaker 2: is unbelievable. So shout out to Tibbs and shout out

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Speaker 2: to the Knicks. But think about this, Jared. You look

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01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 2: about you look at Tom Thibodeau, and there are a

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01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 2: lot of critiques and most of them negative when it

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01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 2: comes to Tibbs, where it's like, oh, he plays his

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01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 2: guy's major minutes, he runs him into the ground. You

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01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,560
Speaker 2: hear that quite a bit. Compare the Knicks to the

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01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 2: Clippers for a second. You know what the Knicks do.

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01:53:56,000 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 2: They grind, they play defense, they're hard nosed. They're like

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01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 2: an NBA team that has an NHL mentality. That's the Knicks.

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01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 2: Look at the soft Clippers where load management. Now, let's

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01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 2: kind of baby ourselves through the regular season and wow,

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01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 2: shocker hurt when it matters most in the postseason. It's

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01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 2: just a completely different mindset. And although a lot of

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01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 2: people dump on TIBs for being hard nosed and playing

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01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 2: his guys major minutes, it's not all negative. Okay, sometimes

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01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 2: it pays off where they're in better shape and ready

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01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 2: for the playoffs health wise, and the Clippers, all people

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01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 2: do is give them roses and hey, this is a smart,

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01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 2: progressive approach. And yeah, injured again while babying your body

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01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 2: throughout the regular season.

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Speaker 1: It's not a coincidence, not a coincidence at all. And

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01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 1: I think maybe it'll change the way teams feel about

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01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 1: load management.

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01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 8: It might.

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Speaker 2: That would be great if it does, that'd be a

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01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 2: win for the NBA. Yeah, that's just go right to.

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01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 1: The playoffs and just forget about the regular season, right,

2283
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 1: Who needs all those games that you know what that is.

2284
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 2: Maybe the silver lining is what if Kawhi doesn't play

2285
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 2: again against the Suns, which is possible, He's gonna be

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01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 2: out for Game four, they might be eliminated in game five.

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01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 3: You know, at least at least they're gonna have a

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01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 3: mid season tournament though that Kawhi might be eligible healthy

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01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 3: to play in.

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01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 2: Right, But the NBA, I don't know if playoffs.

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01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't know that.

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01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 2: It's Tiger Wood's fist pump, like, yeah, Kawhi is injured,

2293
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 2: he's out, but I mean subtle sort of like, hey,

2294
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 2: if this changes the thinking a bit with NBA teams

2295
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 2: not resting their stars as much, that's a win. That's

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01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,839
Speaker 2: a win for the league. Right, that's kind of interesting

2297
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 2: how that might play out as well. All right, we

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01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 2: close it down in style. Coming up next bad Blood

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01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 2: that leads straight to round table gambling talk. That's on

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01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 2: the way. I'm Brian No, he's Jared Smith, No Rich

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01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 2: Orenberger today, but you get a heavy dose of us

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01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 2: coming up. It's Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh,

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01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 2: welcome back in It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We're coming to you live from the

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01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 2: tire Raq dot com studios. Top of the hour, up

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01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 2: on game d J, Hushman, Zada, Plaxico, Burus. Make sure

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Speaker 2: you keep it locked right here. It should be a

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01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 2: lot of fun. Shout out to the crew today here

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01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 2: Bo Benson, our trusted producer, Lakers fan. We've got Iowa

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01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:33,520
Speaker 2: Sam technical producer, obviously an Iowa Hawkeyes fan, Isaac lohen Cron.

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01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:37,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a big Dolphins fan. If I'm not mistaken?

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01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 2: Is that right with Ilo?

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01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 1: What I know?

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01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 2: If that's the word you get that, I was just

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01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 2: tngue in cheek to make sure I fake attention.

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01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 1: That true?

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01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 7: Actually, no, no, no, no, you're right. I'm a fan

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01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 7: of the animal, the Dolphins. H is pretty much everybody

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01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 7: not so much. Yeah, Dolphins are very cute.

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01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 1: That's your new nickname, Ilo Flipper.

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01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 2: Also, it's time for the progressive play of the day.

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: Let's do that.

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01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 4: Team three in the books, Hu Nicks rout Oh Cleveland

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01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 4: final score, Nick shinety nine the Calves shifty nine.

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Speaker 2: All right there, it is Iron Eagle on the Knicks

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Speaker 2: Radio network, as the tough minded Knicks hold the Calves

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01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 2: to only seventy nine points. Meanwhile, the weak minded Clippers,

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01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 2: they won't have Kawhi Leonard or Paul George when they

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01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 2: are taking the suns later today. So there's that. How

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01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 2: about this? How about the bad blood Jared in the

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01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:46,879
Speaker 2: Lakers Grizzly series Lebron v. Dylan Brooks?

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01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 1: I love it.

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01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 2: I love that Dylan Brooks is like, I don't care

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01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 2: he's old by Poke Bears. So there's that. There's actually

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 2: a prop because Dylan Brooks said, I don't respect anybody

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01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 2: until they give me forty, meaning forty points, So there

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01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 2: is a prop bet for Lebron to score forty. It's

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01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 2: at plus six fifty, so it's like six and a

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01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 2: half to one A.

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01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet that.

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01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 2: I wouldn't neither. But would you take Lebron over twenty

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01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 2: eight and a half?

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01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 3: No?

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01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 6: No?

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01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 1: I Well, here's the thing I didn't love.

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01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 3: So I watched the interview yesterday when he was asked

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01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 3: about it, and he kind of abruptly ended the interview.

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01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of think Dylan's in Lebron's head a

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01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 1: little bit.

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01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 2: Oh really, I think that's just peak Lebron of this

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Speaker 2: will get attention, and I can't get enough attention.

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Speaker 3: That's true, but also ending the interview and storming off

2353
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 3: also gets attention.

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01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's I would have.

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01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:46,200
Speaker 3: Just nonchalantly said, that's what I mean, that's why he

2356
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 3: did it, you know, that's why he did it.

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Speaker 2: Where it's like, I don't have time for this, bs you.

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Speaker 3: But then you're kind of admitting that you're thinking about it,

2359
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 3: because like if you're really just eh, who cares? I

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01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 3: would have been like, I we'll settle it on the floor.

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01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 3: That's not what we're talking about here. Next question, Like,

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Speaker 3: that's how I would have personally handled it. Yeah, yeah,

2363
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 3: well instead of storming off, Like when you abruptly end

2364
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:10,920
Speaker 3: an interview and storm off, that is an attention grabber

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01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 3: in itself, Whereas if you just brush over it, and

2366
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 3: this is all media training one on one, If you

2367
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 3: just brush over and act like it's no big deal

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01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 3: and move on to the next question, it's it.

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01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 1: It's done, it's over. But now the fact that you

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01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: stormed off, it's like, well, why didn't Lebron just move

2371
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 1: on from it?

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01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 3: Like now, granted, I don't know, maybe maybe if someone

2373
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 3: was pulling them aside and the immediate interview was ending anyways.

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Speaker 2: But all right, what do you like today? That's what

2375
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 2: I really want to know.

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01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how about this.

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01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,320
Speaker 3: The Grizzlies are zero and fifteen straight up as a

2378
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 3: road underdog, and they are a road underdog today, and

2379
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 3: I think maybe that trend continues. It's tough to bet

2380
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 3: against that trend. So I'll take the Lakers at home.

2381
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 3: Maybe the money line's a better bet. I'll take the points.

2382
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 2: I'll scoop up those four and a half here.

2383
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 1: All right, head to head, let's do it there being.

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Speaker 2: Head to head, like, yeah, good stuff. Enjoy the da

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Speaker 2: e