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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Giants Huddle, a New York Giants podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Huddle podcast. The

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Speaker 1: Giants have their new head coach. It is Joe Judge

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Speaker 1: joining me on today's show super Bowl Champion David Deal,

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Speaker 1: former Giants offensive lineman and folks, and remind you can

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Speaker 1: podcast on giants dot com, slash podcast. Dave, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm excellent. I I gotta tell you that I was

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Speaker 1: very impressed about the press conference yesterday and having some

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Speaker 1: time to sit down with our new head coach, Joe Judge.

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Speaker 1: That was the first time personally that I've ever met him.

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Speaker 1: But when we decided and went with the hire that

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Speaker 1: Joe Judge was going to be the head coach of

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Speaker 1: our organization, I reached out to former players, whether it

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Speaker 1: was you know, Matthew Slade or Rob Ninkovic. Everybody that

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Speaker 1: I spoke to gave nothing but rave reviews about him

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Speaker 1: as a man, as a football coach being accountable not

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Speaker 1: only to himself, the other coaches and the players around him,

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Speaker 1: and that this was going to be an unbelievable experience

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Speaker 1: for the players for the New York Giants. And this

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Speaker 1: is a coincidence, but Dave and I both in our

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Speaker 1: salute to services here while we're doing this, and you

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Speaker 1: kind of got that feeling listening to him, and you

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Speaker 1: know at the press conference off to the side, it

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Speaker 1: was David Deal, it was Richie Soybert, it was Justin Tuck,

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Speaker 1: it was Jeff Eagles, and it was a Monty Tumor

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Speaker 1: and Pat Hamlin made the joke during the press conference.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of like Coughlin military vibes while

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Speaker 1: you were listening to him make his speech and answer

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Speaker 1: questions with the media. I mean, the tonality of it

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Speaker 1: was definitely something that rang home. The verbiage that he

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Speaker 1: used was definitely something that rang home. And I think

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Speaker 1: the the the conviction and what he was talking about

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Speaker 1: in the confidence in the way that he was doing

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Speaker 1: it and addressing it. There was no script needed. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't anything that was sitting there predetermined or have any

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Speaker 1: question in your mind that that's gonna come up and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have just that standard answer and thrown out cliches.

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Speaker 1: You could tell that he is an unbelievable communicator. He's

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Speaker 1: well thought out about the process in which he wants

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Speaker 1: to bring this Giant's organization from stage one all the

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Speaker 1: way to the end, and about winning football through discipline,

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Speaker 1: through fundamentals, through being tough. If those things weren't the

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Speaker 1: things that got Giants fans exciting listen to yesterday's interview,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what would have. Because everything that you

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Speaker 1: hear him talk about, everything that he is, about the

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Speaker 1: man that he is, those are all exemplary of the

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Speaker 1: Giants way now, Dave, I think from the outside looking in,

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Speaker 1: people hear that stuff. Punching the noose for sixty minutes, toughness,

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Speaker 1: go out there, be dressed, properly, stretched off tissue injuries.

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Speaker 1: People I think on the outside roll their eyes and like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's football cliches. But you're a player that's in the

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Speaker 1: room gets those messages. How do you think a team

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Speaker 1: and a player reacts to that message from a coach

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Speaker 1: and the type of messages that Joe Judge was sending

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Speaker 1: yesterday and Prescott, I think number one. It should get

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Speaker 1: them excited about the opportunity that's going to be in

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Speaker 1: front of him, because, like you said, everybody's starting from scratch.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's going to have the right the opportunity to compete

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Speaker 1: for a starting job. It's gonna go to the best

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Speaker 1: man that wins that job without having any predetermined conditions

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Speaker 1: on what's gonna happen, having any decisions made before. If

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Speaker 1: you want to be on the field, work your ass off,

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Speaker 1: and you will be out there as a starting player

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Speaker 1: on this New York Giants football team. But the other

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Speaker 1: thing that you hear out of them, there's a reason

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Speaker 1: why there is a new head coach as your head

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Speaker 1: coach right now, is because you didn't get things done

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Speaker 1: over the last two years. And we know that when

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Speaker 1: these changes are made, you know that you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: challenged as a man, as a player, it's going to

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Speaker 1: bring out your best football through competition. And most importantly,

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Speaker 1: you better know that you're gonna be a part of

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Speaker 1: the solution of what's gonna happen around here and the

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Speaker 1: winning ways of the New York Giants, or you're part

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Speaker 1: you know I've said this a long time and I

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Speaker 1: and I'll continue to say it from the time that

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Speaker 1: I was drafted in two thousand and through my two

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Speaker 1: thousand and three, my first year under coach Fossil gets fired,

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Speaker 1: second year coach Coughlin comes in, and O four two

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Speaker 1: type of turnaround that happens when number one, you know

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Speaker 1: that you need to change the culture of a locker room,

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Speaker 1: but to the changing of scheme and the changing of guard.

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Speaker 1: Some people can handle that competition. Some people can handle

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Speaker 1: that competition, But what does it do those fights, those battles,

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Speaker 1: the competition, the way that you practice throughout the week

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Speaker 1: and take it onto the game on Sundays. That's what

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Speaker 1: makes the difference between winning and losing games and having

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Speaker 1: that mental toughness as a football team that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: stick together. We can look one another in the eye

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Speaker 1: and hold each other accountable. And when those tough times happen,

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Speaker 1: I know you're fighting just as much as I am,

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Speaker 1: and the coach staff is doing the same I want

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Speaker 1: to get to that physical toughness and the potential live

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Speaker 1: tackling in practice, something I've never seen since I started

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Speaker 1: working in two thousand and seven. But to your point

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Speaker 1: consistency and messaging and also priorities and a way you

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Speaker 1: evaluate people. Between what we've heard from Dave Gedtleman a

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Speaker 1: and the type of things that Joe Judge said at

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Speaker 1: And for that reason, Dave, I don't know if we're

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Speaker 1: going to have to see the type of turnover you

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Speaker 1: just mentioned, because I think the type of players and

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Speaker 1: people that Dave Gedtleman have been has been bringing into

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Speaker 1: of people and players that a Joe Judge will want

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Speaker 1: on his rosters. I think that that's a great thing

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Speaker 1: that him and Dave Gedtlman are along the same exact line.

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Speaker 1: They're both football guys. They both feel better when they're

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Speaker 1: sitting there grinding, watching film, breaking down players. And the

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Speaker 1: thing that I love to hear Joe Judge talk about

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Speaker 1: thousand and three. It's not always about just numbers. It's

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Speaker 1: not always about oh, this guy had this forty time.

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Speaker 1: This guy bench to so many times there's no bench

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Speaker 1: press out on the football field. How does that player

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Speaker 1: one of the things about Joe Judge being a special

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Speaker 1: teams coach. That is something that really helps in his

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Speaker 1: three guys with complete different personalities. The wide re divas

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Speaker 1: to the evaluation process. We heard him talk about is

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Speaker 1: evaluation in regards to the Jet Draft, in regards to

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Speaker 1: the free agent, They're gonna do what they need to

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Speaker 1: football games for the New York Giants. And to your point,

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear what a player can't do. Tell

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Speaker 1: to then take what the player can do. From a

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Speaker 1: Tell me what he can do. Then it's your job

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Speaker 1: gonna want to hear coaches walking to him and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: not gonna fly anymore. No, definitely, it's definitely not gonna

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Speaker 1: whether you're the offensive line coach, the defensive line coach,

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Speaker 1: have and you've got to find as a coach, which

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Speaker 1: but he can't do that. Why don't you go grab

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Speaker 1: the potential and the things that he can do and

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Speaker 1: what motivates them. At the same time, every player learns differently,

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Speaker 1: and I think those goes back to Judges history and education.

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Speaker 1: some guys learned better in a lecture verbally, some guys

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Speaker 1: how to reach every player in that room. And I

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Speaker 1: that's so young and still has a lot to learn.

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Speaker 1: Without a doubt, I mean, that's one of the things

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Speaker 1: they respond to that. Some guys need hey, this is

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Speaker 1: And the other thing when you came up to the

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Speaker 1: visual learner. I could read a chapter in a book

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Speaker 1: going up against their defense. We go to Baltimore, they

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Speaker 1: ran a three four hybrid that they haven't run in

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Speaker 1: five years. For that game, they ran a completely different

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Speaker 1: scheme that we didn't even see film on or touch

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Speaker 1: going in of that game. Our first third down, Eli

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Speaker 1: walks up and is going Ray Lewis fifty twos to Mike,

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Speaker 1: fifty twos to Mike. Ed Reid runs up, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no twenties and Mike twenties and the mic and he's

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Speaker 1: going no, fifty twos the mike. They're saying this in

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Speaker 1: between the cadence and in between the huddle, pointing at

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Speaker 1: each other in the A and B gaps, moving back

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Speaker 1: and forth, whether defensive line or shifting at the same time.

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Speaker 1: So Eli is doing this, He's pointing from one side

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Speaker 1: to the other. They're gonna look at They're all messed up.

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Speaker 1: They're all messed up. Those are the types of things

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Speaker 1: that if you can be versatile, you can catch teams

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Speaker 1: on their back heels and they don't know how to

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Speaker 1: adjust to it. To say the least, it was a

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Speaker 1: rough day. I did get a tackle on Dion Sanders

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Speaker 1: on an interception by ed Reid that he did flip

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Speaker 1: to ed Red. Ed Reid had an interception flipped it

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Speaker 1: to Dion At that time. I was playing right tackle,

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Speaker 1: had the perfect angle head on the swivel and make

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Speaker 1: sure I didn't get cleaned up by a linebacker of

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. A tackle deon Sanders. Come on, baby,

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Speaker 1: you gotta let me score on that one. You gotta

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Speaker 1: let me score because if he ran bot me, I

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Speaker 1: was the last line of defense. Was that the only

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Speaker 1: tackle of your career? Unfortunately? I think I had eleven

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Speaker 1: or twelve an Yeah, yeah, that's not a good thing.

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Speaker 1: No dot dot it at all. The other thing that

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Speaker 1: I love too, And he talked about the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball with us. He goes, and this goes

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Speaker 1: back against the schematic, and I think game plan tactical

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Speaker 1: versatility rather than strategic. This is more tactical. He goes,

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Speaker 1: one week, depending on the opponent, we might run it

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Speaker 1: thirty seven times. Yeah. The next week, depending on the opponent,

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Speaker 1: we might throw it times. And that again, it's the

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Speaker 1: game planning from week to week based on your opponent,

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Speaker 1: and how do we magnify our strengths to expose the

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Speaker 1: opponent's weakness. And that was a Tom confident Kevin cot

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Speaker 1: completely because that's the thing that we would go in,

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Speaker 1: especially on that Wednesday and that evaluation, and when we'd

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Speaker 1: sit there and break down and Coach Gilbride would come

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Speaker 1: up in front of the room, Okay, we need to

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Speaker 1: stop this player for because he's the guy who gets

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Speaker 1: everything going and look at what they do off of it.

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Speaker 1: And they would show plays and they would show schemes

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Speaker 1: how this one player would magnify the other things that

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Speaker 1: the other players. But if you took him out now

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's a weakness over here. There's a

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Speaker 1: weakness over there. Those are things that you have to

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Speaker 1: know as a coordinator to be able to make those

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Speaker 1: adjustments and to make sure that your staff and your

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Speaker 1: team know exactly what you need to do to come

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Speaker 1: out with the result that you need. Because every once

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Speaker 1: in a while, you get into a game there's a

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Speaker 1: big team, like a Greg Williams defense, He's gonna have

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Speaker 1: a lot of exotic stuff. But there's always something that

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Speaker 1: we would say the baskin Robbins, what's the flavor of

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Speaker 1: the day. There's always one blitz that's always gonna come

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Speaker 1: up because they feel that's their way to expose your offense.

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Speaker 1: And if you know that and you can calculate it

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Speaker 1: and have the alerts and adjustments off of it, that's

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Speaker 1: a big home run play for you offensively. And I

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Speaker 1: think when you take a look at it and what

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Speaker 1: gets you excited is the type of player and coaches

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Speaker 1: that are necessary to execute that type of scheme. Is

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Speaker 1: it can't just be anybody. No, no, it can't be.

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Speaker 1: And you have to have the determination and the competence

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Speaker 1: that you bring a staff around that's going to be

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Speaker 1: able to build, grow and teach them the fundamentals of

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Speaker 1: what they need to do playing and play out with

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Speaker 1: the scheme and what they're calling and like we said,

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Speaker 1: the why why are we calling this? What is the

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Speaker 1: reason of what we're doing this in the overall picture

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Speaker 1: of the way that we're trying to expose this offense

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Speaker 1: or a defense. And when you can do that and

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Speaker 1: you can convey it to the rest of the group

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Speaker 1: and to do it with confidence, that's where I love

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Speaker 1: when he said, we're gonna study it, We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: out and practice it. We're gonna go back into the

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Speaker 1: room and study again and make the corrections, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go back through and walk through and practice it

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Speaker 1: again so that on Sunday there is no excuses. There's

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Speaker 1: no need to sit there and say, wow, we didn't

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Speaker 1: make that correction. They're gonna know come Sunday how to

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Speaker 1: play fast, furious, downhill football because they're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: any of those thoughts in their mind. And the good

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Speaker 1: thing is that we heard a lot of Belichickian type

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Speaker 1: of stuff, a lot of it, but we didn't hear

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Speaker 1: a lot of the buzz wars. We didn't hear do

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Speaker 1: your job. He regarded it a little bit, but he

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Speaker 1: didn't use that frame. He didn't use you know, those

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Speaker 1: sort of terms. You could tell that he was influenced

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Speaker 1: by Belichick and Saban, but that's not him, right, And

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Speaker 1: that was gonna be my point. From a personality perspective.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the criticism we've heard about some of

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Speaker 1: these guys on the Belichick tree that have not succeeded

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Speaker 1: is that they show up and try to be Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: not just as a tactician and a strategy, but as

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Speaker 1: a person and as a personality. And you can't try

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Speaker 1: to be somebody you're not. And this guy is not

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Speaker 1: going to do that, because if you try to do that,

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Speaker 1: people will see right through it. We've always said in

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Speaker 1: the locker room, if you're not a loud, outspoken guy

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Speaker 1: all the time, or don't be that guy, because now

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if in the heat of the

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Speaker 1: battle that you're just all of a sudden do it.

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Speaker 1: People see right through it because they know that's genuine,

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Speaker 1: not being genuine and who you are. And that was

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Speaker 1: the thing that you can say about him. Yesterday when

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Speaker 1: they asked him that question about Nick Saban and Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: he goes, I learned this from Nick Saban, I learned

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Speaker 1: this from Bill Belichick. But I can't be them. I

548
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Speaker 1: have to be myself. I'm come are bothing, confident in

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Speaker 1: my own skin, because if you're not, if you try

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Speaker 1: to be anything other than that, people aren't gonna believe you.

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Speaker 1: People aren't gonna see it. They're gonna see right through you,

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Speaker 1: and they're not going to take your intentions. It's the

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Speaker 1: right thing to do now, David, It's easy to win

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Speaker 1: the press conference. I've been around a lot of New

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Speaker 1: or Knicks press conferences that look and then you start

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Speaker 1: playing basketball and everything falls upon so in order to

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Speaker 1: get to the winds in September, when everything starts to

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Speaker 1: count and starts to matter, right, I love his approach

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Speaker 1: and use the word process where it just is every day,

560
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Speaker 1: get a little bit better, accomplish your task, and then

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Speaker 1: move on to the next thing. That's really the only

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Speaker 1: way you can do that. The Johnson had three really

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Speaker 1: bad years to turn it into something good. It's not

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Speaker 1: something that's gonna happen just because you say a few

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Speaker 1: words and you flip a switch. No, it's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: take that daily grind to just focus on your job

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Speaker 1: that day, get it done, accomplish your goal, and just

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Speaker 1: move on to the next. You know. That's the like

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Speaker 1: we talked about potential, potential needs products progress to hit productivity.

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Speaker 1: It's with any football team. You need each and every

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Speaker 1: day and each and every week your group to make progress.

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Speaker 1: Especially when we're talking about a young first and second

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Speaker 1: year team like this New York Giants team is I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about it. I don't think ever I in my

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Speaker 1: career in eleven seasons that I would be able to

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Speaker 1: look at the defensive line room where the oldest guy

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Speaker 1: in there was twenty six, like Leondard Williams this last year.

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Speaker 1: But with that being said, you have a young, energetic

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Speaker 1: group that doesn't have their techniques and fundamentals honed in

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Speaker 1: and that muscle memory that that's all they can do

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Speaker 1: because they're still young in the process, so being able

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Speaker 1: to adapt and adjust and being able to transition them

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Speaker 1: into where they need to go. It's gonna start day one,

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Speaker 1: from the minute that they get here in the off season,

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Speaker 1: start doing their workouts, start running together, and then when

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Speaker 1: they get out on the football field, it's a process

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Speaker 1: of doing it that way, day in and day out.

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Speaker 1: Coach Kauf and his thing is, if your's firm with me,

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Speaker 1: if you're strict with me, I will put the world

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Speaker 1: at your feet. If you're easy you with me. If

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Speaker 1: you take me lacks a daisical and you don't take

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Speaker 1: me serious, I will destroy you. Who am I? I

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Speaker 1: am habit, your habits, your daily rituals, the way that

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Speaker 1: you go through things. If you have a habit of

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Speaker 1: doing things the right way every single day and making progress,

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00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: it comes out on the football field. If you're easy

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Speaker 1: with those things, when times get tough, your vert back

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Speaker 1: to your old ways that don't win football games. Do

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00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: you buy it? It's all about fundamentals, absolutely. When you

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Speaker 1: sit here and you watch the playoff games, it's about

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Speaker 1: running the football, it's about tackling, and it's being sound

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00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: when time management comes into play. And that was another

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Speaker 1: great thing that he hit on yesterday and his UH

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Speaker 1: press conference talk that managing figure him as a special

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Speaker 1: teams coach, he's got to know what's going on, specifically

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Speaker 1: with the offensive defense, how much time he has groups

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00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: to get in and out. He's got to be sitting

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Speaker 1: there with the coordinator, whether it's offensive defensive coordinator. As

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Speaker 1: a head coach, that's gonna be a huge benefit for him,

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Speaker 1: seeing the fact that he's done that throughout his career,

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Speaker 1: going time situations, when they should use a time out,

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Speaker 1: when they should take a delay a game, whether they

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00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: should take a penalty. What those are all things that

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Speaker 1: are going to help him as a head coach right

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Speaker 1: now because he's had the experience of the time management aspect,

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Speaker 1: both through an offense and a defensive lens. All right, Dave,

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Speaker 1: final thoughts just in terms of anything we missed that

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Speaker 1: you think is important. He's gonna be the CEO. He's

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Speaker 1: not going to run on the side of the pall.

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Speaker 1: We even talked much about that, So whlet me go

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Speaker 1: there first before we say goodbye. Just in terms of

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Speaker 1: how having a coach that oversees everything is different than

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Speaker 1: having a coach that is more focused on one side

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Speaker 1: of the ball for a team, Well, when you think

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Speaker 1: about it, you think about Matt Naggi is a head coach.

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Speaker 1: When he took over as the Chicago Bears, he's playing

627
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: calls or calling the plays. What was his goal and objective.

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00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: I've got to keep Vic fan Joe in order for

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Speaker 1: me to do my job. Sean McVeigh had on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the ball, Wade Phillips, so that the

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Speaker 1: minute that they get off the field and Jared Golf

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Speaker 1: comes off, he's got a tablet and he's sitting here

633
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: over there looking at it. But when you do those things,

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Speaker 1: you're taking away yourself from the momentum of the football game.

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00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: You lose your field for what's taking out on the

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Speaker 1: football field, and then all of a sudden, I you're

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Speaker 1: having problems with time management because you're lost in the

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00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: flow of the game. Now, having him as an overseer,

639
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: having the ability like he has time management wise, communication wise,

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Speaker 1: XS and ohs, and the way that you want to

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00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: strategically attack a football team. Being on the side where

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Speaker 1: he's been special teams, playing with the offensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, it's going to be an unbelievable experience

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Speaker 1: for him to be able to come in and be

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Speaker 1: an overseer. Now I'm excited about to see what type

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Speaker 1: of coaching staff that he assembles for this team moving

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Speaker 1: championship culture that we created super important. You think him

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Well, obviously he was asked about that

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Speaker 1: So I think that it is important that whether it

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Speaker 1: In the the other thing, like he said, he wants

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Speaker 1: and disagree with him and tell him when he's wrong

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Speaker 1: that he's wrong. He said, that might be a disagreement,

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Speaker 1: that might be some yelling, but we're gonna walk out

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Speaker 1: of there and everyone's gonna be better for it. Well,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that I will say is is that

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Speaker 1: and he started asking us questions and was more open,

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Speaker 1: we wanted things to function, and it made sense to him.

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Speaker 1: It was almost like, why didn't we talk about these

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Speaker 1: things earlier? Because it's one thing to say, hey, my

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Speaker 1: door is always open, come and talk to me about it.

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Speaker 1: It's another thing when you have the peers and the

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, Tom's coming back in to do

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Speaker 1: to do with the football team. Alright, final thoughts, They

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Speaker 1: about with With Jojoe, you've been the new gihnts. I

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about the direction. I'm very excited about Joe,

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Speaker 1: Judge and him being a head coach to demeanor, his attitude,

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Speaker 1: his confidence in the program. Like I said, I'm just

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Speaker 1: excited to see how this coaching staff rounds up together

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Speaker 1: and gets ready for the season. My man always a pleasure.

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